Phil Collins Albums Ranked From Worst to Best
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- It's the final week of The Summer of Joe. Ending a five week stretch of unintentionally covering some of Joe's favorite artists. At least that what we thought. Joe, of course, put Phil in his fantasy bands in multiple decades, so we all believed he was a big fan. But will that hold up as we dig into his solo discography this week? Time will tell.
Join us as we rank the 8 studio albums of Phil Collins.
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Philip David Charles Collins LVO (born 30 January 1951) is an English drummer, singer, record producer, songwriter and actor. He is best known as the drummer/singer of the rock band Genesis and for his solo career. Between 1982 and 1990, Collins achieved three UK and seven US number-one singles in his solo career. When his work with Genesis, his work with other artists, as well as his solo career is totalled, he had more US top 40 singles than any other artist during the 1980s. His most successful singles from the period include "In the Air Tonight", "I Don't Care Anymore", "Against All Odds (Take a Look at Me Now)", "One More Night", "Sussudio", "Take Me Home", "Two Hearts", "A Groovy Kind of Love", "I Wish It Would Rain Down", and "Another Day in Paradise".
Born and brought up in West London, Collins played drums from the age of five and completed drama school training, which secured him various roles as a child actor. He then pursued a music career, joining Genesis in 1970 as their drummer and becoming lead singer in 1975 following the departure of Peter Gabriel. Collins began a successful solo career in the 1980s, initially inspired by his marital breakdown and love of soul music, releasing the albums Face Value (1981), Hello, I Must Be Going (1982), No Jacket Required (1985) and ...But Seriously (1989). Collins became, in the words of AllMusic, "one of the most successful pop and adult contemporary singers of the '80s and beyond". He also became known for a distinctive gated reverb drum sound on many of his recordings. In 1985, he was the only artist to perform at both Live Aid concerts. He also resumed his acting career, appearing in Miami Vice and subsequently starring in the film Buster (1988). In 1996, Collins left Genesis to focus on solo work; this included writing songs for Disney’s Tarzan (1999) for which he received an Oscar for Best Original Song for “You'll Be in My Heart”. He rejoined Genesis for their Turn It On Again Tour in 2007. Following a five-year retirement to focus on his family life, Collins released an autobiography in 2016 and completed his Not Dead Yet Tour in 2019. He then joined up with Genesis for a second reunion tour to commence in late 2021.
Collins's discography includes eight studio albums that have sold 33.5 million certified units in the US and an estimated 150 million records sold worldwide, making him one of the world's best-selling artists. He is one of only three recording artists, along with Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson, who have sold over 100 million records both as solo artists and separately as principal members of a band. He has won eight Grammy Awards, six Brit Awards (winning Best British Male Artist three times), two Golden Globe Awards, one Academy Award, and a Disney Legend Award. He was awarded six Ivor Novello Awards from the British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors, including the International Achievement Award. He received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1999, and was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 2003 and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a member of Genesis in 2010. He has also been recognised by music publications with induction into the Modern Drummer Hall of Fame in 2012, and the Classic Drummer Hall of Fame in 2013.
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When I heard you were doing a Phil Collins album ranking, my first thought was you were joking, but I'm really glad you did. This just shows the strength of the channel, its the best thing on RUclips, three guys who are passionate about music and can discuss with humor, insight, and sometimes twisted logic why they like or dislike something. I'm mostly a Collins hits guy, not into his albums, but this was a very entertaining video!
It's great. This channel will never get old because they'll rate pretty much anyone's discography and there are endless artists to choose from.
Agree. Not sure which I enjoy more the boys explaining why they love a record or the boys explaining why they hate a record.
@@dereks7745 no. It is not really endless. When you Ranking insane clown posse albums you know it is time for a new idea😂
I sincerely don't understand why doing a Phil Collins ranking is a joke. Those first 4 albums were fire enough and he is a quite a very good musician
His prog drumming is amazing. The musicality, understated complexity, and maturity of his playing at such a young age is ridiculous. If you ask me, he ran circles around the more famous prog drummers of the middle 70's.
His estimated net worth is $300,000,000. I'd say he conquered the pop, adult contemporary genre pretty well.
If you combine Genesis' sales numbers (while he was leading the band) with his solo album sales he's one of the top 10 bestselling artists all-time.
Love the content. Joe's spot on here. Nice analysis👍
I’ve always had a soft spot, for Phil Collins.. as he was, seemingly one of the rare few when it came to artists back in the ‘80s that both my mom and my dad seemed to appreciate. I had easy access to all the ‘80s output, even up to and including Both Sides
And as usual, you guys were entertaining as Hell going over these records with all the disagreements and hot takes .. that makes this Listography channel required viewing, each and every week. Thanks Guys!! 👍
I forget where I heard this quote but it pretty much sums up my feelings : "Listening to Phil Collins is like being slowly smothered by a giant sponge filled with gray water"
I'd like to see whoever wrote that try it. Just curious if the comparison actually holds up. I'll volunteer to hold the sponge.
I’ve always had a pretty difficult time distinguishing between Phil Collins and 80’s era Genesis. A lot of it sounds the same to me.
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@@davidellis5141 That is probably the single greatest description of his solo music
@@davidellis5141 Sorry i thought you said geriatric 😅😅😅
They sound very different to one another.
No jacket required is a fantastic album
I agree.
For me:
1. No Jacket Required
2. Face Value
3. But Seriously
4. Hello I Must Be Going!
5. Goin' Back
6. Dance Into Light
7. Both Sides
8. Testify
Interesting that all three put Face Value at number 3. I honestly thought all three would put it at number 1.
This is one of the funniest listographies you've ever done. Very entertaining. Much more than I can say about Phil Collin's solo albums. For me, he's a Greatest Hits/singles artists. Make a playlist of his 80s hits on Spotify/Apple Music and you're good to go. His albums...eh.
Wow great shout chaps & i didn't expect this..... Without having watched your lists yet my worst to best from PC is....
8 - Testify
7 - Going Back
6 - Dance Into The Light
5 - No Jacket Required
4 - Both Sides
3 - But Seriously
2 - Hello I Must Be Going
1 - Face Value
I'm more of a peter Gabriel guy but I can get down to Collins I've been stuck at home with covid so awesome to see your videos
get well soon
Just miss my taste and smell but I love how bad their getting on Phil makes me laugh
Compare Collins and Gabriel is like comparing Night to Day !
@@andrewdyke5561 well, that's good at least
I'm very happy that you're doing the Siskel and Ebert thing where you start criticizing each other's previous star ratings.
Have to commend you guys for going through this discography. I have never had the (dis-)pleasure to listen to a full Phil Collins album and have every intention to let it stay like that. Unfortunately, I know pretty much all of his hits. I obviously can't rank a Phil Collins discography with that fact in mind, but I am very sure I agree mostly with Kramzer here as he keeps the number of stars the lowest. Jason... ranking any PC above "Wish You Were Here" is just crazy. 😁
I don't really care much about Phil, apart from a handful of songs from the 80s that are all right.
But as a loyal Listography follower I watched the whole thing and loved the video. You guys are lots of fun.
Can't wait for TV On The Radio and The Byrds. Those are right up my alley
"I will listen to this again privately on my own accord!" That's one of the funnier moments in Listography history. I was kind of a decent-sized Phil fan around 1990...my listening sort of ended there after Genesis' "We Can't Dance" was released. I listened to those first four solo albums yesterday and I guess they're all about 3 to 3 1/2 stars. Not great, not awful. Not terrible, not essential. You can make a pretty great 10-15 song mix, though.
That's where my interest completely ended as well. I just have no motivation to listen to his discography to make a list
Steve Hackett has a very cool record catalog. The first few are among my favorites. They say his first is one of Genesis' best, for the other members are throughout it.
love hacketts solo career
@badfishy911 it is my fav of his , others are good tho
@badfishy911 yes it is amazing. Also check out The Steve Howe Album if u havent already.
Good video. You guys need to check out his work with Brand X! Great fusion outfit that started in the mid-70s.
A worst to best for them would be interesting. 🤔
Just on here to hit the like button 👍….Sorry guys, just couldn’t do it..be back for the songs tomorrow, but albums ?.., no thanks....it’s just the singles with this dude for me ..Listography 4 Eva 👊🏻☝🏽😎
Speaking of Paul Simon, Paul Simon albums ranking? Speaking of horns, how about Chicago? Lots of good drama there with pre/post Terry Kath. Just watched a documentary on them and was interesting to learn about the tension of master guitarist Terry Kath in a band known for their horns.
Chicago would be an INTERESTING Listography. Mainly because it's so long it could be considered excruciating, like Neil Young. But also because they put out a lot of good stuff in those earlier Terry Kath years.
I’m a long time Genesis fan, including the albums with Phil as a lead singer, up to Duke. I also bought some records with Brand X because Phil was in the band. When I heard that he was releasing a solo album (the last guy in Genesis to do so) I kind of expected something like Brand X, experimental fusion. Obviously that’s not at all what he did. Still, I liked Face Value enough to buy his second album upon release, but I thought it was the same record again just a bit inferior. After that I never bought another Collins album. I love Gabriel’s solo work though, but he’s on another level artistically.
Ah, Phil Collins. People love to hate on the guy for some reason. I guess mostly because he was so omnipresent at the height of his career. Love the dude though. Drumming-wise, he's actually my favorite rock drummer of all time. He had a monstrous groove, the chops of the best prog drummers and was super inventive in terms of going beyond the usual sound of rock drumming. As for his solo albums, yeah, they're not nearly on the same level as Genesis or Gabriel, but there's still some gems in his catalogue. Here's how I'd rank them:
1. Hello, I Must Be Going!
2. Face Value
3. No Jacket Required
4. Both Sides
5. ...But Seriously
6. Dance Into the Light
7. Testify
8. Going Back
Oh, and I love the Face Value cover art. Just totally iconic. The rest of his covers were a bit on the bland side.
I still adore Sussuido.
One day in 1986 I saw the most beautiful girl my 11 year old eyes had ever seen and as I knew from watching The Day After a few years earlier, time was of the essence. So I went up to her and said "uh, hi, what are you listening to?" She then took off her foam headphones and said "sorry, what?" so I doubled down and said "uh, hi, what are you listening to?" She smiled slightly and put said headphones over my shaggy bowl haircut and the song playing was "One More Night" by Phil Collins. For about maybe 20 seconds I listened and looked at the ground. Then, right as the saxophone solo hit, I looked up at her and she was smiling. Not slightly smiling but actually smiling.
It was one of the greatest moments of my life.
The upshot of this anecdote is you guys are crazy. "One More Night" is a good song.
Not the weak link on "No Jacket". Not cheesy. Or at least not bad cheesy.
Thank you. I gave them a good thrashing about this one. ;-D
I like your story. Not everything in life is objective, though people want to make Phil out to be objectively boring, middle-of-the-road, pap. It's not entirely true.
Jason and Joe reaction to kram dance into the light cracks me up badly
I can't wait for the unanimous worship of Against All Odds in the song lists. 👍
If someone were to claim it was one of the greatest pop singles ever, I wouldn't argue.
@@179rich Not a real fan of Phils but I think it's one of his best songs as it's a little less schlocky than some of his crooner songs.
Great drums. - Joe
Are you kidding? It's some of the most heartfelt, desperate singing ever - "and you coming back to me/Is against all odds.." with that swooping melody just kills me.
The tune was originally written for the Face Value album, but Phil dropped it as he preferred the other ballads on the album.
1. Face Value (1981) 3.5/5
2. No Jacket Required (1985) 3/5
3. Hello I Must Be Going (1982) 3/5
4. ...But Seriously (1989) 2.5/5
5. Going Back (2010) 2/5
6. Both Sides (1993) 1.5/5
7. Dance Into The Light (1996) 1.5/5
8. Testify (2002) 1.5/5
CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER:
3.5 Face Value (1981)
3.0 Hello I Must Be Going (1982)
3.0 No Jacket Required (1985)
2.5 ...But Seriously (1989)
1.5 Both Sides (1993)
1.5 Dance Into The Light (1996)
1.5 Testify (2002)
2.0 Going Back (2010)
Phil's clearly got some musical talent I just find most of his stuff to be bland and one dimensional. Face Value is his only album I'd return to. I was able to get through this whole discography because it was pretty short. If he had any more albums I would've given up.
MY RATING SYSTEM:
5.0 = major classic
4.5 = minor classic
4.0 = great
3.5 = very good
3.0 = good
2.5 = fair
2.0 = poor
1.5 = awful
1.0 = historically awful
I don't go below 1 star because once I'm in the realm of the truly terrible I don't care to differentiate anymore. Anything I rate 3.5 stars or higher is an album I'm enthusiastic about and would likely revisit at some point.
Nice job! Did you compile this for just Phil or you can produce these for lots of artists? I am a very casual listener of Phil, as everyone should be, so I had to look up the records in haste but your ratings are about what I would give. Hope you come back and do this most interesting calculation with more worthy artists too. I mean Phil is fun and easy with "no ratings required" but you did a nice job. I guess the song "In the Air Tonight" could be seen as 4.5 minor classic but after 20 listenings imo it's 2.8 (fair to good).
@@oppothumbs1 I try to follow along with most of the artists they cover on this channel.
Check my list. We are basically on the same page here.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 I just knew Phil's singles before your list and never really listened much to Genesis as I don't like progressive rock bands (unless prog. art rock like Roxy Music) but Genesis seemed a notch above in my limited listening. I think Against All Odds and Another Day in Paradise are pretty good songs, but I don't like the song "Don't Care anymore" as his singing doesn't go with the production or something ...
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 harsh list Whammy! I like it. I wonder what Phil Collins would think about it lol
1) Face Value
2) Hello…
3) No Jacket…
4) Both Sides
5) But Seriously…
6) Dance…
7) Testify
8) Going Back
1. Both Sides
2. But Seriously
3. No Jacket Required
4. Hello I Must Be Going
5. Face Value
6. Dance Into The Light
7. Testify
8. Going Back
Have to say that the bottom three I've only really listened to each of them once or twice...
Hello I must be going has been a favorite since HS. Much of his stuff didn’t truly appeal to me but I love that album!
His 80's stuff is some of my favorites to listen to, and combining Genesis was a top selling artist of that decade, and for my money belongs in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because of it. BTW, Mama and Land of Confusion were penned by Mike Rutherford, and thus why they were Genesis songs and not Collins solo. Also, I think the reason why Face Value is a bit disjointed, he didn't plan that to be a solo album, but his first marriage was falling apart, and he was in Canada, while Mike and Tony were working on solo projects, so he just started recording what he was writing at the time. It did take some of that material to the others, but was rejected, so he just put it out as a solo album.
8. Going Back
7. Testify
6. Dance Into the Light
5. Both Sides
4. Face Value
3. Hello, I must Be Going!
2. ...But Seriously
1. No Jacket Required
Well now I can't unsee Phil Collins as a gothic peach haha.
Guys, for your reference, Phil is putting on a south-east London accent on the song 'Like China'. I'm not sure if that's where he's from or not. It's the same accent you hear on Cool for Cats by Squeeze (who were definitely from south-east London).
Kate Bush, Genesis, Phil Collins, Tony Banks, Mike and the Mechanics, Peter Gabriel - my favourite artists.
No mention of 'Inside Out' from No Jacket Required, a second tier hit with Todd Rundgren vibes. Thanks for giving this guy his due.
Love the first 2 albums and I think Face Value just edges Hello I Must be Going for me. I think only being 14 when I got it helps, as I was yet to hear the original of Tomorrow Never Knows!
As I understand it, one of the main drivers for him doing the Motown covers album was the medical diagnosis which meant that he can no longer play the drums.
When I was younger I could not stand Phil Collins, although I think I was more exposed to the 90s adult contemporary stuff by the one radio station we had in my hometown than anything else. I even had a music blog circa 2005 where I wrote a whole post about how much I disliked his music. I remember nothing else about what I wrote about in that blog but I do remember that post because it was the only one that had people I didn't know comment on it. They were mad at me, of course. Thankfully that blog seems to have disappeared off the internet.
As the years have gone on I do feel I have been unfair to him in the past because I do like some of his 80s hits. I enjoyed your discussion about his discography and this was a fun episode. Still not sure which album would be the best for me to check out though for my taste, guess I could give all your #1s a shot.
im iffy on him as well ., tho i admit , his solo music didnt stand a fair fight with me, cuz im a monster early genesis fan and after and then there were 3 genesis slid backwords for me. Obviously im a gabriel guy.
That was awesome. Some of the funniest reactions of any Listo show. I was dying. 😂
I've been a Phil fan since I was 13 years old and won a 'Face Value' LP by calling into a radio station. Also a huge Genesis fan.
I think, looking back, in sum, Phil Collins is pretty lame as a solo artist. And I like a lot of his hits and deep cuts, but there's just too much meh about him.
And I LOVE him and Phil-era Genesis, from TOTT to ABACAB, all those albums are just amazing to me, including live SECONDS OUT. But I think it's no surprise that what imo is the last great Genesis album (ABACAB) coincided with the beginning of his solo career.
Phil was an interesting and FUN rock drummer, an at-times great vocalist and had some strong radio hit instincts, but I just don't think that highly of him as a solo artist.
I'll never forget, in an old Genesis documentary, Mike, Tony, and Phil are being interviewed, and Phil said he thought "Invisible Touch" was one of their very best songs... and my opinion of Phil's judgement sank into the abyss forever. "Invisible Touch" better than the songs on TOTT, W&W, ATTW3, DUKE, ABACAB..? I can't live in that universe.
I would agree with Joe that H,IMBG! is overall his strongest, most interesting album.
Listography 4ever 🎶🙏
Funny, I just came across this comment I made a year ago under a Brand X video - "I heard a lot of disrespect for Phil Collins when I was a kid in the 80's. What a bunch of bullshit. I later learned about his great contributions to Brian Eno albums. I just discovered Brand X yesterday and I'm blown away. Much respect for Phil."
Dammit guys, now I’ve got dance into the light stuck in my head! This will be a terrible next few days to weeks now… at least this is an incredibly entertaining video! Lol
* a GREAT next few days to weeks now....................right? Right??
I guess I like Adult Contemporary because every time you use it as a negative term I love the album. I don’t get the hate.
1. But Seriously 10/10
2. Face Value 9.5/10
3. No Jacket Required 9/10
4. Hello I Must Be Going 9/10
5. Both Sides 8/10
6. Dance into the Light 7/10
7. Testify 7/10
8. Going Back 6/10
Still waiting on an epic Alice Cooper list! In the meantime tho, great Phil video
08) Testify (2.5 stars)
07) ...But Seriously (2.5 stars)
06) No Jacket Required (2.5 stars)
05) Going Back (2.5 stars)
04) Dance into the Light (3.25 stars)
03) Hello, I Must Be Going! (3.5 stars)
02) Both Sides (3.5 stars)
01) Face Value (4.5 stars)
notes:
I was once again able to rate these albums somewhat objectively based on how good I think the songs are. I'm much less likely to actually reach for Phil Collins on my own. Interesting that you Listography guys made a thing about the "uncool factor" of Steely Dan. I think Phil Collins has a much more significant uncool factor. Back in the 80s there were a lot of people ragging on Phil for his cheesy pop, considered by some to be some of the worst the 80s had to offer. He definitely wasn't cool according to many. I was never that hard on Phil though. He's cool as far as I'm concerned. But yeah, some of his music was cheesy and mediocre. Doing an uncool artist like Phil Collins, you guys obviously don't care about looking cool which ironically makes you look cool lol.
0 stars - irredeemably terrible/ the worst
.5 stars - terrible
1 star - bad
1.5 stars - between bad and fair
2 stars - fair
2.5 stars - between fair and OK
3 stars - OK
3.25 stars - pretty good
3.5 stars - good
4 stars - very good
4.5 stars - excellent
5 stars - the bomb
I think …But Seriously is one of his best.
@@nickavenoso7851 Yeah. I guess it's just a question of taste as it always is. But for me the highest rated songs are only at 4 stars - "I Wish It Would Rain Down" and "Father to Son." The rest are basically hovering around 3 stars.
@@179rich Colours is one of my favorite Phil Collins songs from that album.
Aside from In the Air Tonight, I Don't Care Anymore, and Take Me Home, even the hits for solo Phil have never really done that much for me, sadly. On the plus side though, I'd take pretty much all of them above I Can't Dance. LP-wise, the first two probably fare the best for me.
One of the sweetest people I've ever met.
1: Face Value
2: Hello, I Must Be Going!
I then check out. I enjoy some of the subsequent hits. He has a very under rated voice but otherwise I struggle with the two albums I have and have no desire to listen to the others because of this.
Love Kramzers weird opinions. Dance Into The Light is a fun album. The title track is as good as all his big hits, if it came out in the 80s it would have gone top 10
Was my favorite artist for a few years there in the early 80s. I fell off the bandwagon after Invisible Touch and after I fell hard for "underground" 80s bands like the 'Mats, R.E.M., Dream Syndicate, Fishbone, etc. and etc. Still, I really enjoy the first two solo albums. They hold up well for me. Kind of enjoy the 3rd album, though it doesn't hold up well for me today. Hated the way he fell into a schlocky balladeer after No Jacket Required. Don't know any of his albums after that third one, and don't really want to hear them. Loved his work with Philip Bailey on Easy Lover. Hate his obsession with the Alamo because he gets it all wrong.
I agree with all you write and you have Phil pinned but hard to believe you can have Phil as fav artist when you love the Replacements; of course, I don't have diversified taste maybe? The 'Mats are my favorite band along with Neil Young and Crazy Horse.
@@oppothumbs1 I don't really listen to Phil Collins anymore. Haven't for years and don't own any of his albums anymore. But I can still appreciate what I liked about him: really good melodies, good rhythms, and I like his voice a lot. I think he wrote good pop songs. Not a great lyricist. Horrible ballads. Maudlin and sappy, pretending to convey great emotions but are really only intended to convey buckets of $$ to his bank account. Having said all that, I do have pretty diverse tastes, I guess. If you like NY and Crazy Horse, you should check out the Dream Syndicate, especially The Medicine Show, Out of the Grey, and Ghost Stories. If you don't already know them that is. Eliott Mazer, who produced some NY, produced Ghost Stories.
Have you guys checked out the new Beach Boys Feel Flows release? I was shocked by how much good unreleased material was on it. The bonus tracks all together felt like a new Beach Boys record from that era. You could definitely resequence the Sunflower and Surf's Up albums with all the recordings from those sessions.
Haven't had time to check it out but definitely looking forward to hearing it. -Jason
I never thought I'd say this....I agree with Jason on this listography!! "Dance Into the Light" is my least favorite Phil Collins album, the song "You Can't Hurry Love" is totally out of place on "Hello I Must Be Going," and I love "Both Sides"!!!
im sold now i have to listen to testify.
It’s terrible why would you do that. - Joe
@@TastesLikeMusic i want to share in the pain lol
Come on Kramzer! No Jacket Required is easily his best album! It’s the only one I can get through completely, but I really like the album cuts.
No comments on Phil's mullet? Took some intestinal fortitude to sport that mullet while also not hiding that quickly receding hairline on top. Bravo, Phil!
a.k.a. the Skullet
@@edgustafson brilliant!
52:41 reason: Genesis wrote it as a collective, all three of them at that very moment when they met to write the genesis record. therefore it never ever could have been a phil collins solo song.
Joe looks so young!!!
Phil Collins is a tough artist to pull out of the context of his times, because he was kind of just part of the cultural fabric, like pleated pants. He didn't fight the culture, he didn't push or define the culture, and he was never important to the culture. But that music was in the air everywhere you went and I can practically smell the 80s when I hear those songs.
what very competent pop artist you think embodies this in the 2000s or 2010s?
@@gars129 I'm too old, honestly. Wouldn't know. Really wasn''t plugged in to the zeitgeist anymore.
Like some others here, I am not a fan of solo Collins. Yes, there are some big hits, but it runs parallel with the decline of Genesis. The thing about Collins is, that at one point he was an absolute beast on drums. The Gabriel-era Genesis is still IMO one of the all-time greatest bands. Just to name some clips "Apocalypse in 9/8", "Dancing out with the Moonlit Knight", the entire "Lamb" double album.
Lol, one of my favorite lists yet. Scathing and brutal reviews of the lower ranked albums, odd and surprising disagreements. Favorite comment: "All (One more night) is good for is middle school dances perhaps..." Ouch!
P.S Did you guy's ever do a Pixies Listography yet?
Not yet.
@@TastesLikeMusic Cool, I was wondering if maybe I missed it.
Count me in, for obvious reasons
I just learned that Phil covered Tomorrow Never Knows. I haven't listened. Not sure if I will
It's not horrible. It's a different take. Lacks the energy, thrust, artistry, beauty and excitement of the original, is all... ;)
After the first three, they're kind of meh, but here we go. I think Face Value is probably the most interesting. If you squint, it's almost like a Peter Gabriel solo album from the same period.
1. Face Value
2. No Jacket Required
3. Hello, I Must Be Going
4. ...But Seriously
5. Dance into the Light
6. Testify
7. Going Back
8. Both Sides
I compare Phil Collins solo career to Peter Cetera, where they felt the proved that they were great musicians from their former bands, but wanted to concentrate on vocals during their solo careers
Or wanted to concentrate on making big bucks with the schlocky ballad crowd.
@@burmajones803 lol. The great historians are already dissecting every song that Phil has written and discovering fascinating links, artyfacts and psychedelic nuggets to the actual Alamo battles. History in the making!
If you grew up in the ‘80s ie in your teens or 20s, many rock, folk, psych fans felt that the slick, plastic, over-produced pop of the 80s was a betrayal and they moved on to punk or college…like I did. So opinions about Phil, Huey Lewis and Whitney were not very kind (see American Psycho the movie). But I’ve changed my views since then and like a good deal of it including much of his stuff, even the waaaay overplayed hits. His Genesis stuff was always a favourite though. And Phil himself does seem like one of the nicest guys around, I agree
I can't rank you guys or the albums cause I've never been able to listen to one album by Collins
Hello I Must Be Going is my favorite by far
"Hello, I Must Be Going!" was the title of a song from an old Marx Brothers movie.
he did the queen thing - a night at the opera, eh?
Gothic Peach would have been a better title than No Jacket Required
U win the Comments section. 🏆
Growing up in the '80s, Phil Collins wasn't a punch-line (well, maybe by the end of the decade). His albums were cool. I bought each of his first 3 when they came out and I loved "Hello I Must Be Going". I agree "Face Value" seemed disjointed right from first listen. But "Hello" was a fun ride, lots of interesting songs. Also, "Take Me Home" was my favorite song of 1986 for years. After '86 he kinda dropped off the map for me.
Phil sings on a few songs on the first solo album by ex-Genesis guitarist Anthony Phillips, and they sound like prime, mellow Genesis. His drumming on Eno's No One Receiving is spectacular. As far as his solo stuff goes, a few ok tunes. But his cover of the Goffin/King classic, "Goin Back," is a frickin' sin.
Boy oh boy.. you boys were brave attempting this!! 😹
Phil Collins is one of my favorite musicians (with or without Genesis) but even I have to agree that his solo career fell off starting in the 90's, because "Both Sides" and "Testify" are indeed total snore fests. However, I think "Dance Into The Light," while not as good as the 80's albums, is an improvement over those two. The title track, Lorenzo, Just Another Story, and Wear My Hat are solid tunes IMO, and I like the worldbeat influence. Since Both Sides was a major disappointment, it feels nice to have some kind of return to the Phil Collins sound.
I found in time that I really like Both Sides and Testify. I even like Dance Into The Light now.
Phil Collins isn´t one of my Top Artists, but I own all his studio albums on cd and the 80´s album also on Vinyl, because it´s very easy to find those on sale. My Ranking:
1. ...But Seriously (7,5/10)
2. Hello, I Must Be Going! (7,5/10)
3. No Jacquet Required (7/10)
4. Face Value (7/10)
5. Going Back (6/10)
6. Both Sides (4/10)
7. Dance Into The Light (3,5/10)
8. Testify (2/10)
Greetings from Canary Islands
Interesting rankings , although I disagree with your assessments of I Don't Care Anymore . It would be a much better 3 minute song as opposed to about 5 minutes . I don't need to hear him droning on ( and on ) for the last 2 minutes about not caring anymore ( or anymo as he starts to say ) . Anyway , here's my to 5 ranking in order of preference :
No Jacket Required ( the gem for me is A Long Long Way to Go , by far my favourite song by Phil )
Face Value. ( apparently Phil took the tapes of the just finished album to Bill Bruford for his assessment . He got an enthusiastic thumbs up )
Hello , I Must Be Going ! ( dragged down by the aforementioned 2 minutes of not caring anymo )
....But Seriously. ( sorry for the dots Kram )
Dance Into the Light
I never got into the rest of his albums because what I heard from them was less than interesting .
Cheers !!
Both Sides is my #1, so I TOTALLY get why it’s Jason’s #4
I just keep thinking of department stores in the early nineties
Face Value was a very personal record for Collins reeling from the break up of his marraige
Good call on All of My Life though, Kramzer. I do enjoy the seductive horns as well. It's my favorite song from ...But Seriously.
Didn’t think any album cuts are worth it for me and your rankings confirmed that. Get Greatest Hits, remove You Can’t Hurry Love, and I’m good.
35:54 This is where I have to mention that "In the Air Tonight" and "Thru These Walls" share the same Phil fill...
It’s better on Thru These Walls.
@@TastesLikeMusic I can't disagree--It feels more like a texture in TTW, slowed down, and grittier. More appropriate to the vibe.
Now, how about we chalk that up to "Don't Get Me Started"? LOL
Wow so much hate going on in this video. :( Genesis is my favorite band of all time, and I feel I'm in the minority when I say I prefer Phil over Peter. There's just something about his voice and songwriting that sticks with me. I still love Peter as well, before I get attacked.
My list:
1. Face Value
2. ...But Seriously
3. No Jacket Required
4. Hello, I Must Be Going!
5. Both Sides
6. Going Back
7. Testify
8. Dance into the Light
Hello, I Must Be Going! is a reference to Groucho Marx if that helps at all
But why? - Kramzer
how funny was groucho
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Queen named 2 of their albums after Marx Bros movies. I guess the Brits love Marx Bros movies?
8. Testify
7. Both Sides
6. Hello I Must Be Going
5. Going Back
4. But Seriously...
3. Dance into the Light
2. No Jacket Required
1. Face Value
This is wrong. - Joe
@Listigraphy I'm kind of in yalls boat. I'm not a huge Phil Collins fan and the albums aren't spectacular but this was the best I could do. I merely ranked them by the songs I liked on them lol
Love Phil Collins since I have been a child!
1. ...But Seriously (5-star album for me, great deep tracks like Colours and awesome singles)
2. No Jacket Required (5-star album, great singles, very up-beat and very 80s, gives me that 80s fix instantly, also has Sting as a guest!)
3. Both Sides (5-star album, moody, fragile, a great divorce album, love We Fly so Close)
4. Hello I Must Be Going! [is a song title by the Marx Brothers, Phil is a fan - so the title is a nod to them] (4,5-star album, better than face value, some dark classics, great vocals, awesome instrumental in The West Side)
5. Face Value (4,5-star album Great first side, not so strong second side, only song I don't like at all is the Beatles cover, don't even like the original. He should have done Somewhere Over the Rainbow instead)
6. Dance into the Light (3,5 stars. Too long, too many mediocre tracks but I like the singles a lot, poor Bob Dylan cover version)
7. Testify (3 stars, bad production/sound, some strong songs like the title track but all in all very MOR)
8. Going Back (not rated, uninteresting covers album, no need for this)
Good to see SOMEONE enjoying Phil. Too many haters on this channel. - Joe
@@TastesLikeMusic Haters always gonna hate. But seriously, (pun intended) the man was one of the best drummers of the 70s, a fine singer during the 80s, had a good ear for snappy R'n'B ballads, had a great stage presence as a live singer during the 80s and made a fortune with his singles and got so popular because he worked his ass off and collaborated with great fellow musicians anytime anywhere. No one can take that away from him and the rest is as always a question of personal taste. :)
@@matma84 Not alone for ''Both Sides'', this was in my top 3. ''Both Sides'' was his most introspective and dark album. It's not just about divorce, but also a introspection of his past (ex Can't turn back the Years), he analysed his past and his present of his time who he write and produced the album. While the two first solo albums sound more aggressive and anger, he sound more sad. For me, he was the introspection of his life before leaving Genesis and make full time solo. He was for me his last very good album and the end of his creative great sound he write since the 70's.
Actually I like his cover of The times they are a changing.
I agree with Joe, and Jason to a lesser degree. "Hello I must be going" is my favorite, followed by "No Jacket required".
I like "Sussudio" a lot, but thankfully not as much as Christian Bale did in "American Psycho"
Asked how he feels about his music’s role in American Psycho during a Guardian webchat, Collins replied: “Flattered! I’m easily flattered...I thought the movie of American Psycho was quite funny - I don’t know if it was meant to be,” he added. “I don’t think him being a psychopath and liking my music is linked - my music was just omnipresent in that era.”
@@179rich thats a great quote from Phil, but of course there was a link. Patrick Bateman only liked music (or restaurants or business cards) that he thought he was "supposed" to like.. he was nuts. I love that movie (and it was intended to be funny)
Kramzers review of dance into the light is cut the crap all over again
Please do the sting solo albums!!!
great idea.
(Siouxsie & the Banshees....Siouxsie & the Banshees....Siouxsie & the Banshees....)
Please, DON'T!
I'll happily defend Sting's first 3 solo albums- especially 1987's Nothing Like The Sun. After that he settled into his adult contemporary barcalounger and I lost interest.
I hope you’re not hating on Fields of Gold. - Joe
You can tell these guys don’t like any adult contemporary songs that’s why they slammed Phil’s discography. They didn’t want slow, melancholic, non-pop songs. They mentioned Corporate America by Boston which isn’t upbeat and they didn’t like it too.
Once again, great video!
Here’s my ranking of what I’m familiar with:
4. ...But Seriously
3. No Jacket Required
2. Hello, I Must Be Going...
1. Face Value
It's good pop music, but I've never loved it. I think his solo catalog isn't far behind Peter Gabriel, but Steve Hackett leave them both in the dust!
I actually really like tomorrow never knows.
I'm sure it was done as a Lennon tribute. Not in love with Phil's version but under the circumstances I really didn't factor it much into my album rating.
It's obviously inferior to the original, but I don't think it's as terrible as the guys made it out to be. I've heard way worse covers.
Very unfair criticism of Phil Collins but Gabriel shines lol
The debut album is his best
Genesis.. Undoubtedly a force for many years.. Solo recordings.. Eurovision song contest pap.. Gabriel n Hackett come out strongest and I find Gabriel to be a royal pain in the arse after his 4th album. Most of Banks n Rutherford's efforts.. 2 cloying.. 2 sweet to be wholesome. Even harking back to the 80s stage clobber just rubbed it in all the more. Todd Rundgren's 80s output is not to everyones taste.. Yet I think he showed up the Genesis solo efforts without the acclaim. Anyway I always say that Phil Collins "Duke number".. Please don't ask is one helluva "cry out" for a young bloke to conjure up. It's raw to the bone and a top write.
No Jacket Required is possibly the most contentious album in this video. I'm with Kramzer, I've got it at 2.5 stars. Here's how I rated each song:
Sussudio - 4 stars
Only You Know and I Know - 1.5 stars
Long, Long Way to Go - 2 stars
I Don't Wanna Know - 1.5 stars
One More Night - 4.5 stars
Don't Lose My Number - 2.5 stars
Who Said I Would - 2 stars
Doesn't Anybody Stay Together Anymore - 2 stars
Inside Out - 5 stars
Take Me Home - 4 stars
I gave it 3 but easily could've given it 2.5... most of my ratings can go a half star this way or that way and I can live with it.
This makes sense if you hate either synth pop or anything with horns, otherwise I think everyone’s nuts. - Joe
@@TastesLikeMusic The hits are good. "Take Me Home" is my favorite. But there's a chasm between them and the deep album cuts, the vast majority of which are throwaway.
You're really missing the mark on those 1.5's. -Jason
@@TastesLikeMusic Sorry Joe, I think it's a particularly plastic-y, cheesy version of synth pop. I agree with Whammy. Rather cringe-inducing at times.
I will from this point forward refer to the man as Phil “Gothic Peach” Collins
Face Value is my clear number 1! Disappointed to see it at 3 for all of you. Nothing compares to seeing Dance Into the Light at 2, though! Yikes!!!
There is no fucking way in this world or the next that Phil Collins solo is better than Billy Joel. NO FUCKING WAY.
Huge Genesis fan, btw. Enjoyed this list immensely. You guys rule ...But Seriously... NO FUCKING WAY!
Ironically, my band is considering recording a cover of 'A Groovy Kind of Love' for a future B-side, so what do I know!
Better in every way possible - kram
If Billy joel had given uptown girl to phil collins, collins would have turned it into a top ten song ever, multi-grammy award winner, and likely changed the award for song of the year to simply, "the collins award" - kram
Totally amused by Jason's extreme dislike of "You Can't Hurry Love" :-D
D'you think you'll be participating in TV on the Radio? I'm thinking I might skip them and go straight to Eurythmics/Byrds. I've already listened to TV's first 2 albums (3 times each) and, while I didn't outright hate them, I'm definitely not a fan.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 Aw, too bad. But it would be interesting to see you rate a band so low and they only have 5 albums. I myself am a big fan. (Well, as big as can be having never seen them live or bought their merch). I do think their albums get more accessible so perhaps you will like the other ones better. I've already done the Eurythmics and I'm working on the Byrds right now.
@@179rich I'll give TV's 3rd album a try before I move on.
Better than The Supremes, great energy.
Kramzer - nice hairstyle but that will change soon like the weather - 4.25 on 1-5 scale. Joe - fine with or w/o beard but I like you more w/o - 4.5 not that you care. Jason (4.0) is happier than ever and his remark "there's a lameness .. a little hard on him" is not that so wrong that Kramz should protest so much though Kramz is the one I might agree with most in general. Hey how do you guys like getting rated? Just kidding around. Joe - most logical, Kramz - most emotional, Jason - I am really often a little shocked and confused .. not sure of where you are usually coming from. All together - very entertaining and intelligent if only the records in this century were worth reviewing - stay with the oldies.
Suggested review: Graham Parker and the Rumor review (Heat Treatment, Howlin WInd, Squeezing out Sparks have their clunkers but this is one talented singer songwriter) or maybe Psychedelic Furs? Graham Parker is a major overlooked talent (despite Mercury poisoning) and I would expect Kramz to know that.
I'll second a Graham Parker listography. His first four albums are outstanding. I am less familiar with his discography after those four, but I reckon it is much better than Phil's late career.
@@burmajones803 Much better, I would never think to compare them - one is easy listening and one is no holds bars top 20 all time. But I would listen to Graham's Best of 88 - '91 Best Of. I really like Call me your Doctor ( Phil's horns pale in comparison to Graham's) , I'm Just Your Man, And It Shook Me, Get started Start a Fire.. are my favs.
@@burmajones803 His late 80s and his 90s albums are below his own standard (not that they are entirely bad). He returned to form in the new millennium, he even re-united with The Rumour for some albums. Of course, few people were still interested in him at that point anymore but those who stayed loyal were rewarded - he also changed his angry ranting to very insightful observations. He has aged well for a songwriter but maybe I say this because I am now older as well compared to when I first heard him back in 1976.
Sometimes I feel like pourin' it all out: In my view there are NO clunkers on those 3 albums. Graham Parker is one of the greats and so criminally ignored. I've seen hundreds of artists in concert through the years and he's without doubt in my top 5 of all time.
@@jesuschambers I agree. No real clunkers, imo. I put Stick To Me in the same realm as the three albums that have been mentioned. Great stuff. Would be much more rewarding than a Phil Collins listography, I believe, though I didn't mind this episode.
Well you know Patrick Bateman was a big fan of Phil solo & Genesis after Phil replaced Peter 🙄
Also Huey Lewis and the News, as I recall
Good effort guys. It's odd that Phil's solo work is often a bit bland and unrewarding given how hugely talented he is, and the range of influences he has. That said, nothing he did is as bad as Mike + The Mechanics. I tried to listen to their greatest hits record yesterday but couldn't get past the first 2 songs.
I have always dug the first Mike & the Mechanics album. 😂🎶👍 there's some cool deep cuts on it. Cheers.
Silent Running is a classic.
@@davidbeckman7925 Thanks, I'll check that out.
@@starrynight1657 I also quite like The Living Years.