Metallica Albums Ranked From Worst to Best (including 72 Seasons)
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- For the first time in channel history Joe and Kramzer are remastering a Listography! They covered Metallica shortly after joining the channel while Jason took the week off. This time all 3 TLMers are ranking the 11 studio albums of Metallica, including the newest one released this week, 72 Seasons.
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The discography of American heavy metal band Metallica includes eleven studio albums, eight live albums, three extended plays, 44 singles, ten video albums, 43 music videos, one soundtrack album, one collaboration album and three box sets. They are a San Francisco-based metal band formed in 1981 by James Hetfield (lead vocals, rhythm guitar) and Lars Ulrich (drums). After several bassist and lead guitarist changes (including Dave Mustaine), the band settled on Cliff Burton and Kirk Hammett, respectively. Metallica started playing locally, releasing their first widely circulated demo, No Life 'til Leather, in 1982. The demo caught the attention of Johny Zazula, who signed Metallica to Megaforce Records. The band released Kill 'Em All in 1983, and the following year they released Ride the Lightning. After Ride the Lightning was released, Metallica left Megaforce and signed to Elektra Records. In March 1986, the band released its third studio album, Master of Puppets, which was Metallica's first album to be certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). While promoting the album, Burton was killed in a bus accident. Jason Newsted was hired as a replacement. The band's first release to feature Newsted was The $5.98 E.P. - Garage Days Re-Revisited, and then followed by ...And Justice for All in August 1988, which peaked at number six on the Billboard 200.
Metallica's fifth, self-titled album, often called The Black Album, was released in 1991 and debuted at number one on the Billboard 200. The band embarked on a two-year tour in support of the album. Metallica has since been certified 16 times platinum by the RIAA. Metallica followed with the release of Load and Reload, respectively. After the release of Garage Inc. and S&M, Newsted (who would later join Voivod) departed from the band. Metallica recorded St. Anger without an official bassist (bass parts for the writing & recording during the album sessions were played by the band's long-time producer Bob Rock). Bassist Robert Trujillo joined Metallica in 2003. In 2008, the band released its ninth studio album, Death Magnetic, which was produced by Rick Rubin and distributed through Warner Bros. Records. In April 2009, the band's catalogue was released on the iTunes Store as the Metallica Collection.
In 2013, Metallica released the movie Metallica: Through the Never, together with its soundtrack. Metallica then started writing their tenth studio album, Hardwired... to Self-Destruct, which was released on November 18, 2016. Metallica has sold more than 125 million albums worldwide, with over 67 million records in the United States alone (56.3 million albums since 1991 when SoundScan started tracking actual sales figures)
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Death Magnetic remains the best post-Black album for me... fast, heavy and full of amazing riffs
Yes! The riffs and solos on Death Magnetic are next level to me compared to Hardwired or 72. More heavy and creative.
Could listen to "The day that never comes" and "All nightmare long" all day
Death magnetic is the best post justice. Ill pass on black album.
That’s a low bar…
Jason: Black Album
Joe: Master of Puppets
Kram: Metallica Christmas Album.
Surprise me with some Megadeth next. 🎉
Or maybe Testament?
Joe and Jason’s confused expressions when Kramzer says ‘For Whom the Bell Tolls’ during his Master Of Puppets’ review😂
Oooooopsy daisy
1. Ride the Lightning
2. And Justice For All...
3. Kill 'Em All
4. Master of Puppets
5. 72 Seasons
6. The Black album
7. Death Magnetic
8. Hardwired
9. Reload
10. Load
11. St. Anger
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Enjoyed this a lot! Always interesting hearing perspectives from people who aren't exclusively 'Metalheads'.
Great insight from all of you but specifically Joe articulated so well what many feel when listening to an album like Justice. You can tell how much he loves this band as do I
🤘❤️ - Joe
@@TastesLikeMusic
I just discovered your guys' channel. I love the commentary, the opinions, and the sustained album cover visuals with the numbered rank so a viewer can always know where the focus is no matter what.
I always articulate praise/ criticism whilst attempting to combine subjective taste in music and objectively judging an album based on it's substance.... so I appreciate the three of you doing the same!
Jason and I have a strikingly similar ranking list, so obviously he the *most correct* out of the group. Lol
Good video, fellas!
[[ ⭐⭐⭐⭐ -- ⭐ ]]
90.5 - 99% = ⭐⭐⭐⭐ (Close to perfect album; Listening days-on-end)
79.5 - 90.4% = ⭐⭐⭐+
67.5 - 79.4% = ⭐⭐⭐
(Amazing - Great album; May play through twice)
56.5 - 67.4% = ⭐⭐+
44.5 - 56.4% = ⭐⭐
(Good - Solid album; Full playthrough)
33.5 - 44.4% = ⭐+
22 - 33.4% = ⭐
(Decent - Not enjoyable; May only play select songs)
1) KILL 'EM ALL (1983) ⭐⭐⭐+ (88%)
2) RIDE THE LIGHTENING (1984) ⭐⭐⭐+ (81%)
3) ...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL (1988) ⭐⭐⭐ (75%)
4) MASTER OF PUPPETS (1986) ⭐⭐⭐ (69%)
6 - Tie) 72 SEASONS (2023) ⭐⭐+ (66%)
6 - Tie) HARDWIRED... TO SELF-DESTRUCT! (2016) ⭐⭐+ (66%)
7) DEATH MAGNETIC (2008) ⭐⭐+ (65%)
8) METALLICA / BLACK ALBUM (1991) ⭐⭐ (52%)
9) LOAD (1996) ⭐+ (43%)
10) RELOAD (1997) ⭐+ (40%)
11) ST.ANGER (2003) ⭐ (30%)
1. Ride the Lighting
2. Kill Em All
3. The Black Album
4. Master of Puppets
5. And Justice For All
6. Garage Inc
7. Hardwired to Self Destruct
8. 72 Seasons
9. Death Magnetic
10. Load
11. Reload
12. St Anger
13. Lulu
There was no bass sound on “injustice for all”…. Still a great album but never understood why that was done …. But I’m definitely more 80s Metallica fan … but I think 72 Seasons is going rise on some peoples picks …. After I go back and listen more .. I may have 72 at 4 …. But for now… 5) I’ve got :::>1)master of puppets 2) Killem all 3) Ride the lightening 4) justice for all. 5) 72 seasons:::::::::;;;;;;;;;;;;; then::::::;;;;>
6) Black album 7)hardwired to self destruct. 8) death magnetic. 9) load 10)reload 11) st anger
I do not hate the bottom 3 like many do …. St anger was trying to be a simplistic punk/thrash sound … still it could’ve been better …. And I appreciate on load and reload messing with southern blues hard rock sound with thrash … if many did fans did not want the slower hard rock on the black album… they definitely did not want southern rock …. But … i grade for what it is … not bad … still … maybe could’ve been better …. This will not change much except maybe for the 72 album… yes the solos are lazy on some songs … but when it comes to thrash/punk ….. I don’t need a great solo on each song …: just a good memorable hard rocking songs … and I believe there are enough on here to be top 5 … just my opinion for now … but as I said … going listen to all these albums and see how they set after some years… dig
1. Master of Puppets
2. Ride the Lightning
3. And Justice For All
4. Kill 'em All
5. Metallica
6. Hardwired
7. 72 Seasons
8. Death Magnetic
9. Lulu
10. Load
11. Reload
12. St Anger
It seems like your biggest criticism of their 90's albums is that it inspired the likes of Nickelback and Staind etc.. It's not Metallica's fault that other bands copied them! I'm not claiming that it's their best material or anything, but I think you've greatly underrated some of their efforts during that decade.
It’s just not a great style no matter who it inspired. That’s the issue. - Joe
Fun surprise, you all did a great job. I got no complaints 🙂
Metallica, probably my favourite metal band.
My list:
1. ...and Justice For All (5 Stars)
2. Master of Puppets (4,5 Stars)
3. Ride the Lightning (4,5 Stars)
4. Metallica (4 Stars)
5. Kill 'em All (4 Stars)
6. Load (4 Stars)
7. ReLoad (4 Stars)
8. Death Magnetic (4 Stars)
9. Hardwired...to Self-Destruct (4 Stars)
10. 72 Seasons (3 Stars)
11. St. Anger (1,5 Stars)
I say say 1&3 and my list would look the same. Good list
You guys should cover the Foreigner catalogue next
Wow! What a cool surprise this listography was. Nice hearing Joe give a shout out for Hero of the Day. Also my fav song from Load, by far.
I dig Death Magnetic. I was disappointed that no one mentioned my fav song from that album: Broken, Beat & Scarred.
Kramzer did mention it ( at 18:19 ), although he erroneously gave the song's title as 'Broken, Beaten, and Scared'.
I like Death Magnetic as well. End of the Line is probably my favorite Metallica song of all time.
@@ttmilbr I liked it a lot too, especially after st anger! Only wish the production was better
Death Magnetic is still my favorite post Black Album.. heavy and fast riffs
Such a great listography guys. Nice work 👌 think it kinda shows that revisits are really cool and really important, and with all 3 of you! Love it. Reckon you should consider doing this more 👍
1 - Master of Puppets
2 - Ride the Lightning
3 - ...And Justice for All
4 - Black Album
5 - Kill 'em All
6 - Death Magnetic
7 - Load
8 - Garage Inc.
9 - Hardwired
10 - 72 Seasons
11 - Reload
12 - St Anger
Another Band where I don't respect their popularity, but I like some of their Albums.
12: Lulu
11: St. Anger
10: Load
9: Reload
8: Hardwired... To Self Destruct
7: 72 Seasons
6: Metallica
5: Death Magnetic
(The Good stuff)
4: Master of Puppets
3: And Justice for All
2: Ride the Lightning
1: Kill 'Em All
Happy 4/20!
"I don't respect their popularity" is such a weird thing to say
Really enjoyed the review. Devil's dance a really underrated tune. Ride the lightning probably my number one metallica album
Agree that escape has a great chorus melody. I think it modulates to the relative major, unusual to do in a metal song. I think it was their first attempt at going for a radio hit. So the story goes. Their first attempted sell out. I love it.
1- Ride the Lightning
2- Master of Puppets
3- Kill em all
4- ...And Justice for All
5- Metallica
6- Death Magnetic
7- Hardwired (should have been a shorter album)
8- 72 Seasons (should have been a shorter album)
9- Load/Reload (should have been one album)
10- St Anger
Master Of Puppets is my favorite Metallica album & I quite like the $5.98 EP especially the Killing Joke cover " The Wait " .. Don't think it's $5.98 these days. ✌️
But as proper
1. Master of Puppets
2. Kill ‘Em All
3. Black
4. Ride the Lightening
5. Hardwired
6. Death Magnetic
7. And Justice
8. Load
9. 72 Seasons
10. Reload
11. St Anger
Can't believe everyone has Death Magnetic so low on their lists, one of my favorites.
Albums ranked:
1. Ride the Lightning 5 stars, perfect album
2. Death Magnetic 5 stars
3. Black album 4.5 stars
4. ...And Justice for All 4.5 stars
5. Master of Puppets 4 stars
6. 72 Seasons 4 stars
7. Reload 3.5 stars
8. Load 3.5 stars
9. Hardwired... to self destruct 3 stars
10. Kill em all 2 stars
11. St. Anger 1 star
There's the first 5 albums and then there's everything else for me. I enjoy the Black Album which I feel is hit and miss more than the Load's because the songwriting was just straight up better. There is nothing on the Load albums even anywhere close to as good as The Unforgiven, Nothing Else Matters, Sad But True and Enter Sandman.
That's the way I feel about Metallica, too. They're basically a 5 album band to me (the first 5), and almost everything after that is 'meh.' I would put them in the same company as other bands with 5 great albums, like the Police, The Jam, and Talking Heads.
Give me Kramzér!
Give me Joe!
Give me Jason!
Give that which I desire, ooh!
Let's do this =)
As I did for Rush, I ran the ranking lists created by our hosts and thirty-something people in the comments section through a program, which averaged them together and came up with overall fan rankings of Metallica's albums:
Metallica Studio Albums Ranked by 38 People
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13. St Anger: average rank=12.282, average star rating=1.7
12. Lulu: average rank=11.810, average star rating=--
11. Reload: average rank=10.063, average star rating=3.3
10. 72 Seasons: average rank=8.919, average star rating=3.4
9. Death Magnetic: average rank=8.634, average star rating=3.8
8. Load: average rank=8.627, average star rating=3.4
7. Hardwired to Self Destruct: average rank=8.570, average star rating=3.5
6. Garage Inc: average rank=6.115, average star rating=4.0
5. Black: average rank=5.569, average star rating=4.2
4. Kill Em All: average rank=5.130, average star rating=3.7
3. And Justice for All: average rank=3.904, average star rating=4.4
2. Master of Puppets: average rank=2.966, average star rating=4.8
1. Ride the Lightning: average rank=2.452, average star rating=4.8
Statistical Analysis
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Most underrated Metallica albums: 72 Seasons: 1.081, Reload: 0.937, St Anger: 0.718
Most overrated Metallica albums: Hardwired to Self Destruct: -1.570, Ride the Lightning: -1.452, Kill Em All: -1.130
Most fairly-ranked Metallica albums: Garage Inc: 0.115, Lulu: 0.190, Death Magnetic: 0.366
Most controversial Metallica albums: Kill Em All: 7.594, And Justice for All: 6.627, Reload: 5.670
Least controversial Metallica albums: Ride the Lightning: 1.981, Garage Inc: 2.763, St Anger: 2.765
Most negative dissent: Master of Puppets at 2.364/2.966 (lowest median-to-mean)
Most positive dissent: Lulu at 13.000/11.810 (highest median-to-mean)
(* underrated = receives a higher average rank than its final rank, fair = average rank pretty close to final rank, controversial = a lot of variation in how people rank it)
(* positive dissent = people giving higher rankings feel more strongly than those giving lower ones)
(** note: an album can still be non-controversial if everyone agrees that it's bad)
The Critics
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Most underrated by critics: Load, 2.5 vs 3.4 from fans
Most overrated by critics: St Anger, 3.0 vs 1.7 from fans
Most critic/fan consensus: Garage Inc
Overall critic rating vs fan rating of Metallica: 3.9 / 3.7
Ranked list from critics: 13. Load, 12. Reload, 11. St Anger, 10. Lulu, 9. 72 Seasons, 8. Garage Inc, 7. Death Magnetic, 6. Hardwired to Self Destruct, 5. And Justice for All, 4. Black, 3. Kill Em All, 2. Ride the Lightning, 1. Master of Puppets
Phases of Metallica ranked:
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* 80s Metallica (from Kill Em All to And Justice for All): average of 3.613 (4.4 stars) across 4 master_albums: Kill Em All, And Justice for All, Master of Puppets, Ride the Lightning
* 90s Metallica (from Black to Garage Inc): average of 7.594 (3.7 stars) across 4 master_albums: Reload, Load, Garage Inc, Black
* 2000s Metallica (from St Anger to 72 Seasons): average of 10.043 (3.1 stars) across 5 master_albums: St Anger, Lulu, 72 Seasons, Death Magnetic, Hardwired to Self Destruct
Most popular phase: 80s Metallica
Fans of Interest
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Key fan scores (lower is more stereotypical): Joe: 4.825, Kramzer: 4.956, The Critics: 7.273, Jason: 7.336
Most stereotypical Metallica fan: Joe
Least stereotypical Metallica fan: Jason
Fans Clusters (K-Means Clustering)
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Most fans best fit one of the following. Select one of these top 5 / bottom 3 lists. * = not shared across all lists.
Cluster 1 (5 fans): Ride the Lightning, And Justice for All, Kill Em All, Master of Puppets, Hardwired to Self Destruct *... Lulu, Garage Inc *, Reload *
Cluster 2 (11 fans): Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, And Justice for All, Black *, Kill Em All... Death Magnetic *, St Anger *, Lulu
Cluster 3 (23 fans): Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, And Justice for All, Black *, Kill Em All... Lulu, Reload *, St Anger *
(Personal observation: Metallica fans have pretty consistent tastes. Black gets ripped on a lot, but most fans actually like it.)
Methodology: User lists and host lists (including star ratings, where provided) are pasted into text file,
which is then processed and analyzed by Python script. Text file also includes info about artist and
album names. Critic star ratings come from Allmusic.com.
Great choice for a remaster, improving the old listography in every way.
Biggest surprise for me: Jason liking that much Justice's production/overall sound.
I can understand criticising Hetfield's voice and mannerisms, but let's praise to death his amazing rhythm guitar with those god-like downstrokes.
Also, what a great cover band they are. Plenty of songs I discovered because of them.
My ranking 'til mid 90's (not very fond of everything that came after):
01 Ride The Lightning
02 Master Of Puppets
03 Black Album
04 ... And Justice For All
05 Kill 'em All
06 Load
07 Reload
It also brings up the max CD play for album over content and concise music collection.
Some assorted notes:
* "This record is too long." Yeah, that honestly applies to every post-Black Album Metallica album. I swear that by the time the CD era went into full swing, they lost any ability to self-edit. See the amount of filler on the Loads (which would be much improved if you just had one album but with the filler chopped out) and the fact that nearly every song on St. Anger would be a lot more bearable had they been 5 minutes max.
* Greg Fidelman was the mixing engineer for Death Magnetic. Apparently, he was the one person from that album's production staff that got along with James/Lars, so the two albums after that brought him along to basically co-produce with James and Lars.
* The biggest problem with The Black Album on relisten is that the album is frontloaded with all of its singles. It probably would be a more engaging album had those songs been spread evenly throughout the album---ie, it's the one Metallica album worthy of a Resequencer (unless you made one that's your own single-album version of the Loads).
I would love to see a lot more of those ‘resequence’ videos!
The Bob Rock production on the black album hasn’t held up for me. That Bryan Adams record style over the top snare and all that … just hasn’t aged well. The bass drum is so annoying. And I’m a drummer !
The longer the better.
Definitely, Cliff is an influence on my bass playing and my early attraction to music seriously in the 1980s.
"I don't like anything about this record, I don't like the playing, I don't like the production..... it's 3 stars". Lol...I just don't get Joe's rankings sometimes
I know I’m too nice with my star ratings. - Joe
He’s some kind of brawny pirate for sure
Nice to also hear Jason call out Hero of the Day as a quality song. I've always loved that song but none of my friends ever gave it much love.
Awesome that you guys did this. I’m not really a Metallica fan but I do find them interesting to discuss, given how varied their output is within the metal genre.
1) Master of Puppets
2) ...and Justice For all
3) Ride The Lightning
4) Kill 'em All
5) The Black album
6) Death Magnetic
7) 72 Seasons
8) Load
9) Hardwired to Self Destruct
10) reLoad
11) St. Anger
#11 - St. Anger
#10 - Reload
#9 - Load
#8 - Hardwired to Self Destruct
#7 - 72 Seasons
#6 - Death Magnetic
#5 - The Black Album
#4 - Kill ‘Em All
#3 - Master of Puppets
#2 - Ride by Lightning
#1 - And Justice For All…
My Ranking:
1. Ride The Lightning (10/10)
2. Master of Puppets (10/10)
3. Metallica (10/10)
4. Kill ' em All (9/10)
5. And Justice For All (8'5/10)
6. Garage Inc (8/10)
7. Hardwire...to Self Destrucción (7'5/10)
8. 72 Seasons (7/10)
9. Reload (7/10)
10. Death Magnetic (6'5/10)
11. Load (6'5/10)
12. St Anger (2/10)
13. Lulu - with Lou Reed (0'5/10)
Greetings From Canary Islands'
LuLu is not a Metallica album and Garage Inc is a covers album. They don't count.
How about a video about combining Load and Reload into one album?
1. Ride the Lightning
2. Kill 'em All
3. Master of Puppets
4. ...And Justice for All
5. Death Magnetic
Hmmmmmmm
@@TastesLikeMusic 😬
The rest is trash
Used to be one of my favorite metal bands but since they've come to the decision of making buttrock that's not miles ahead of bands such as Nickelback or Godsmack they've definitely gone down in my ranking quite a bit (this new album was a chore to get through) still love the early shit though:
1. Ride the lightning (10/10)
2. Master of puppets (10/10)
3. And justice for all (8/10)
4. Kill 'em all (8/10)
5. Black album (6.5/10)
6. Load (6/10)
7. Reload (5/10)
8. Death magnetic (5/10)
9. 72 seasons (5/10)
10. Hardwired (5/10)
11. St. Anger (2/10)
The new album is easily one of their best albums.
@@RavensFlock9592 If you think so then more power to ya
I was battling with falling asleep while listening to it, way too samey and predictable for my liking
Surprised that you don't like the 2nd 1/2 of And Justice. Shortest Straw, Harvester of Sorrow, Frayed Ends of Sanity and Dyers Eve are awesome!!!!! Heavy with cool lyrics. For me Ride The Lighting, Master of Puppets plus And Justice For All are 5 stars for me.
I absolutely couldn’t do this. Listening to more than ten minutes of metal makes me want to cut my ears off.
Being narrow minded isn’t cool anymore. That was like a 97-2015 thing. - Joe
@@TastesLikeMusic Having a preference (and good taste) isn’t narrow-minded. 😉
I remember some girls came over one day in high school when I had the Garage Days EP on. One of them asked “Doesn’t this stuff make you feel really nervous?”
Great show! Other than Sabbath I was a bit of a latecomer to Metal. Now I think it's the most interesting music genre of the last 40 years. It's where the spirit of rock & roll went after the Establishment started crushing the music industry. #1 And Justice for All. #2 Kill 'Em All. #3 Ride the Lightning. #4 Master of Puppets. #5 The Black Album. I haven't heard their complete catalog, so my list is brief. I know the Black Album was a big departure and many fans never forgave them, but I still find it to be an enjoyable listen. Saddling them with the title "Fathers of Butt-Rock" is a bit harsh.
what a great surprise, thanx guys!!!🐯🐯
like a thumb in the butt surprise or like finding ten dollars in your jeans surprise?
(not they they couldn't go hand in hand...)
@@independenceltd. i want the cash man💸💸💰🤑
@@bengalgangster 👍
Good to see some love for one of my favorites. The Black Album is the album that got me into metal and convinced me to check out so many other great albums. My ranking below.
ALBUM RANKING:
1. …And Justice for All (1988) - ★★★★★
2. Ride the Lightning (1984) - ★★★★★
3. Master of Puppets (1986) - ★★★★★
4. Black Album (1991) - ★★★★★
5. Kill ‘Em All (1983) - ★★★★★
6. Hardwired… to Self-Destruct (2016) - ★★★★½
7. Death Magnetic (2008) - ★★★★½
8. 72 Seasons (2023) - ★★★★½
9. Reload (1997) - ★★★★
10. Load (1996) - ★★★½
11. St. Anger (2003) - ★
RATING SCALE:
★★★★★ - Masterpiece (All-Time Favorite)
★★★★½ - Excellent (Really Love It)
★★★★ - Great (Love It)
★★★½ - Very Good (Really Like It)
★★★ - Good (Like It)
★★½ - Okay (Indifferent)
★★ - Bad (Dislike It)
★½ - Very Bad (Really Dislike It)
★ - Awful (Hate It)
½ - Terrible (Really Hate It)
Great episode guys. Great insight about the Metallica discography. Awesome ranking.
Justice definitely does have Lars's best drumming. But he was alwayst he one who said that those songs werent' fun to play on tour, and that was one of the big reasons they scaled things back for the black album. A guy who once produced an album from my former band said to us that it's good for a band to always stretch to play just ever so slightly above their actual abilities, and it seems like this is what lars was doing here. It also seems to me that maybe he wasn't really up to the challenge in the long run.
Maybe he should’ve kept following drum lessons. The drums on Justice are child’s play when you compare it to any of Rush’s albums, for instance, but then again Neal Pearth was a monster.
They did the right thing clearly for their career and to keep it interesting by going simpler and more mainstream. It actually took guts and was a very Metallica thing to do. It was after that to me that they became obnoxious and irrelevant. The songs were bad. The playing not interesting. It happens. It’s tough to write rock songs and do something new. Ballads, R&B, jams, etc - from my experience a lot easier than a compelling “rock” song that does something new or exciting .
Metallica’s discography is just as unmistakably excellent up to 1991 as it is uniformly mediocre after it.
Wrong. 72 Seasons is a top 4 album of theirs. Easy.
My favorite album is "Ride The Lightning" still I couldn't disagree more with some comments about the Black Album. "Sad But True" is one of the heaviest and more emblematic Metallica songs. The production is perfect and satisfying and the playing is so efficient, the way every song flows, the groove, the structures are "to the point", the arrangements professional af. "Metallica" is easily the album I enjoy most while driving esp at night time compared with their other albums. This album and Load are the best albums in terms of production as a whole. Of course Master Of Puppets has also a gamebreaking and influential production for it's time.
As far as the " 72 Seasons" is concerned, I feel it's a little bit soon to be judged and especially rated in their discography. They way I see it after many listens is their best one since "Load". But I believe time shall decide.
ps. Regardless the arguments, I enjoyed the video and of course all opinions are respected since they have to do mostly with taste. Take care guys.
Thanks!
I just discovered your guys' channel. I love the commentary, the opinions, and the sustained album cover visuals with the numbered rank so a viewer can always know where the focus is no matter what.
I always articulate praise/ criticism whilst attempting to combine subjective taste in music and objectively judging an album based on it's substance.... so I appreciate the three of you doing the same!
Jason and I have a strikingly similar ranking list, so obviously he the *most correct* out of the group. Lol
Good video, fellas!
[[ ⭐⭐⭐⭐ -- ⭐ ]]
90.5 - 99% = ⭐⭐⭐⭐ (Close to perfect album; Listening days-on-end)
79.5 - 90.4% = ⭐⭐⭐+
67.5 - 79.4% = ⭐⭐⭐
(Amazing - Great album; May play through twice)
56.5 - 67.4% = ⭐⭐+
44.5 - 56.4% = ⭐⭐
(Good - Solid album; Full playthrough)
33.5 - 44.4% = ⭐+
22 - 33.4% = ⭐
(Decent - Not enjoyable; May only play select songs)
1) KILL 'EM ALL (1983) ⭐⭐⭐+ (88%)
2) RIDE THE LIGHTENING (1984) ⭐⭐⭐+ (81%)
3) ...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL (1988) ⭐⭐⭐ (75%)
4) MASTER OF PUPPETS (1986) ⭐⭐⭐ (69%)
6 - Tie) 72 SEASONS (2023) ⭐⭐+ (66%)
6 - Tie) HARDWIRED... TO SELF-DESTRUCT! (2016) ⭐⭐+ (66%)
7) DEATH MAGNETIC (2008) ⭐⭐+ (65%)
8) METALLICA / BLACK ALBUM (1991) ⭐⭐ (52%)
9) LOAD (1996) ⭐+ (43%)
10) RELOAD (1997) ⭐+ (40%)
11) ST.ANGER (2003) ⭐ (30%)
Thank you for your kind words. However, like Jason, your ranking is an affront to god. - Joe
@@TastesLikeMusic Lmao . How dare you, sir.
I look forward seeing/ hearing some analysis/ commentary for all MegaDave/deth's albums.
I have posted my criteria for song scoring/ grading, along with all the album rankings to reddit, however, not many people find it enjoyable to speak about the reasoning for their opinions.
>> No more malfeasance from you or Kram, Joe.
Great video! I enjoyed watching!
Thanks for the heart!
I heard metallica for the first time in grade 10..one of my friends had a taped cassette of rtl...I liked that quite a bit...I saw them as an opener for ozzy the following year...crowd rushed towards the stage while they were on in Detroit, and they briefly stopped the show..(still like rtl over m.o.p)...then cliff Burton died...metal (for me at least) started to become a caricature of itself..I started to lean into counting crowes, pearl jam...and I had never left the beatles and zep..floyd etc...metal is not in my everyday listening anymore..but I still like it...but I prefer megadeth, and volbeat (i like them quite a bit actually)...thanks guys..cheers
Great take guys! A Remake of Genesis Would be Awesome!
I’m in the camp that says they were toast when Cliff died. I saw the classic tours ‘88-‘92 but even then you got the feeling they were going off reputation from an earlier time.
1 kill em all
2 ride the lightning
3 master of puppets
Ah, i was wondering when you would get to a redux of one of the old videos, but, I thought it would be one of the ones Jason did on his own. i was quietly hoping for either Deep Purple or The Cure.
But, I get it -- I'm also pretty into metal as I've mentioned in earlier comments, and I consider Metallica to be an essential gateway for myself and many of us who got into loud guitar music in the 90s. I never really thought of the Load/Reload/"butt rock" connection before, but damn, I see it now. I really only care about the 80s albums, myself. I think they're really great, but I also think there's a certain amount of "being in the right place at the right time" involved in their success. I believe that, apart from the early albums of classic bands, the best stuff in metal has usually been pretty far in the underground, and for me, an album like 72 Seasons is really not a big deal when both younger and "legacy" bands that are less well known are still killing it. Voivod is one of the first to come to mind -- practically contemporaries of Metallica; still innovating and still making really cool music after all this time.
Why do james' vocals sound so weird on 72 Seasons? Could it be autotune? i think so. Something is definitely odd with them. It doesn't make sense to me that his voice would be getting higher and higher.
Joe's right that in many ways the band seemed to regress in the 90s. While it may seem weird, it also makes some sense to me -- when people get too comfortable, they stop caring about social issues and such. These things don't matter to them when they're "bigtime" now. I'm not saying that everyone is like that, but think about the reason why many old hippies turn into conservatives after a successful career.
lars is definitely the weak musician in the band by the way. As a drummer myself, it annoys me to hear just how stiff and uninventive he is, *especially* on the latest album, which i gave a good listen to, unlike Hardwired...
My top four Metallica albums:
4. Justice
3. Puppets
2. Kill 'em All
1. Ride the Lightning (yes, I was a little sad that noone picked it as their favourite here, but it's ok, all those first three I could accept as #1, in a way).
Also while I love "Orion" musically, I think Metallica's most effective instrumental is "Call of Ktulu" from RTL. Some of the best atmosphere they ever achieved.
1) And Justice for All /Ride The Lightening
3) Kill / Master of Puppets
5) 72 Seasons (love this new one!) /Hardwired.. to Self-Destruct
7) Metallica
8) Death Magnetic
9) Load /reLoad /St. Anger /lulu
12 - St. Anger
11 - Death Magnetic
10 - ReLOAD
9 - 72 Seasons
8 - Kill Em All
7 - Garage Inc.
6 - Hardwired...To Self-Destruct
5 - LOAD
4 - Ride The Lightning
3 - And Justice For All
2 - Master of Puppets
1 - Black Album
You guys saving Lulu for the Lou Red retrospective?
I think that it would fit better there
@@craigyoun7642 Me too, but those monsters didn't do it, and I can't just accept that they're never going to review Lulu. Plus I would be curious to see how it stacks up against Metal Machine Music.
12 St. Anger
11 Lulu
10 72 Seasons
9 ReLoad
8 Hardwired... To Self Destruct
7 Load
6 Kill 'Em All
5 Death Magnetic
4 Black Album
3 Master Of Puppets
2 Ride The Lightning
1 And Justice For All...
I hahd done a post on one of my blogs about 72 Seasons from the perspective of The Simpsons, but I also have commented on Loudwire and put it in the blog too.
"It reminds me of the heavy side of The Black Album (Metallica), but with some old and new ideas. Obviously, we have some thrashers too, but Inamorata sounds like a stoner rock track, but in the mold of early Sabbath. Nice vocal harmony parts on some of the songs too and this album could be the closest one, to be something for every Metallica fan, altho Hardwired…To Self-Destruct also came close."
"Further to that, it is a bit of a continuation of Hardwired…To Self-Destruct, in the sense that they had worked with the same producer and the guitars were not tuned down and the overall sound, is much the same. However, there are more vocal harmonny parts and even bassist Robert Trujillo sings harmony vocals with James on the track You Must Burn."
That is basically how I feel about the new album and I generally like all of what Metallica had done and it even includes St. Anger, as the song reminds me of a washing machines cycle. I know that sounds strange, but if you listen to how a washing machine goes through each of its wash, rinse and repeat cycles, you'll understand what I mean as that song goes through which dynamic shifts.
You should give an average score for each of the three of you - it would make for interesting numbers. For the numbers people! Your discographies are always appreciated - thank you.
Ride and especially Puppets are 2 of my fave albums ever. Other 2 80's 4.5. Valid critiques of Magnetic, but I'll give it a 4. Love the commentary, guys!
Jamiroquai would be a cool one. Feels like they're outside of all three of your wheelhouses.
1. ..And Justice For All - A masterpiece, their best themes, musically and lyrically
2. Ride the Lightning - It is hard to fault this, thin production, but every song is theatrical and meaningful
3. Master of Puppets - a bit sillier lyrically, but the first side is so great, Battery is their best opener.
4. Garage Inc. - One of the best covers albums of all time
5. Reload - The songwriting and the sounds they were playing with are very atmospheric and cool, an obvious Soundgarden influence on this album actually works.
6. Load - Hetfields voice on 'Mama Said' has made me want him to do a country album, and I still want him to do one.
7. Metallica (Black) - it has too many good songs to be any lower even though I agree it does not flow as well as an album.
8. Kill em All - It is fine, but basic thrash and I could swap it out with any number of classic thrash albums.
9. Lulu - basically a Lou Reed album with Metallica just as a backing band, but they stretch themselves to different territory here.
10. St. Anger - other than Lulu, it is their last creative project. I love the sound of this album, it is revolutionary and weird, but the songs have dumb lyrics and go too long, it is OVERHATED for real.
11. Hardwired to Self Destruct - it has some really good moments but needs more hooks and drama. Great sounding record though.
12. 72 Seasons - The songs aren't super distinct and the production is way too PRO TOOLS, everything quantized.
13. Death Magnetic - the start of them regressing as creative musicians trying to give people what they wanted, and it is so dull.
On a side note, I love the two live albums with the orchestra, great sound, and much more full sounding than their old studio recordings.
im totally with u on the first 2, for me they are by far the greatest 'tallicas
Lulu and St Anger as a whole not so great, but there’s some things I’d consider gems on there. Cheat On Me could be played on repeat for a week and I’d dig it. Lars of all guys shines on that one. I think the band needed those projects as well as the S&M and AWMH acoustic sessions to try something very different. There’s a lot of talent on display.
Shouldn't Garage Inc. have been included? It's sometimes considered as an compilation but the first half are newly recorded cover songs so it could be counted as a studio album as well.
That aside, nice listen as usual. Thanks!
We could have included Garage and Lulu I suppose.
I was pleasantly surprised to see this episode. Very hard to separate the first 2. Both are easily 5 star albums.
1) Master of Puppets
2) Ride The Lightning
3) Black (Metallica)
4) ...and Justice For all
5) Kill 'em All
6) 72 Seasons
7) Hardwired to Self Destruct
8) Load
9) Death Magnetic
10) reLoad
11) St. Anger
🤠 Those ads that were running on RUclips, where they're bro-ing out with YOU... "So, you want to play guitar like Metallica?" No, actually. In fact, absolutely not. But thanks for asking, dudes.
1) Ride the lightning
2) Master of puppets
3) Kill em all
4) Load (a lot of personal attachment for this one)
5) And justice for all
6) Black
7) Reload
8) 72 seasons
9) Hardwired to self destruct
10) Death magnetic
11) St anger
Ride the lightning for me, could just give me Call of Cthulhu on loop all day!
Gotta give you your flowers on this one. I think you guys pretty much nailed it with this band,.
Hi Guys, i bought Kill em all back in mid 80's, i quite liked them, i followed them till master of puppets, i've listened to "and justice for all too", then i started listening to different music. not many albums for a proper ranking, i'll be watching your video all the same
The only ones I ever liked were the first four.
1. Master of puppets
2. Kill 'em all
3. Ride the lightning
4. And justice for all
Their later straight metal records turned me off until i just gave up on them
Same
Agreed with most of your picks, with the exception of ranking the Black album so low. That is my number 2. It is the album that got me into the band!
Metallica said everything they had to say with those first five albums.....they have just been a bunch of rich guys going through the motions ever since.Shame.
Production is a weird subjective thing isn't it? I don't think Ride the LIghtning sounds thin at all. I love the way taht album sounds, big boomy snare and all -- that's a big part of what makes 'For whom the Bell Tolls" for instance sound so good.
1. Black
2. Ride the Lightning
3. Master of Puppets
4. Kill 'em All
5. Hardwired to self-destruct
6. ...And Justice for all
Anybody who has issues with the production of Death Magnetic should seek out the Guitar Hero mix, I think it might be here on youtube...the producers of that game recieved all the individual multitracks of the record and were able to actually create a properly mixed version... why nobody in the Metallica camp did that to begin with is just absolutely nuts
I got that tip when it came out or around that time. It did help make it more listenable but didn’t change my opinion of it overall.
It was nice in the old days albums went out of print
All right time to rank you guys and show mine
I agree with Kramzer's choices. Load and Reload suck and shouldn't be higher. The albums after St. Anger aren't terrific but they are better than those two.
Everybody is wrong. St Anger is a great album. Love the drums. No idea why nobody else likes it. 4 stars.
I actually like it, as well.
It’s not the worst thing but it often sounds more like Korn than Metallica, at least in it’s style. It sounds pretty dated and juvenile now and at the time it wasn’t the most well received and I think that’s for good reason. Cool heavy guitars but not great songwriting.
St. Anger is unfairly maligned. The drum sound really is the only big problem I have with it. It obviously falls short compared to their classic albums but the way people tear it to shreds is too predictable. I know they would never do it but if they re-recorded it, I would buy it lol. I still think there are a few good songs on it. The Unnamed Feeling and All Within My Hands are some of my favorite songs from them. I don't consider myself a Metallica fan so I guess if you were into them when this came out then you would be very disappointed because of how different it is from their previous work.
It's been a while. But "Kill Em' All" (8/10). "Ride the Lightning" (10/10). "Master of Puppets" (7/10). "And Justice For All" (5/10) "Sandman" (7/10) "Load" (complete waste of time) "Reload" Well, it beat "Load." But then, that really wasn't hard. Then I stopped.
Bruh what?
@@user-br2gi8kh5s It's been a while. I guess I spend more time with KING DIAMOND and MERCYFUL FATE now. At the risk of starting a dispute, Kirk Hammett is a good guitarist. But I think Hank Shermann has him beat. But that's just my opinion. 🤔 But whatever works for you.
Garage days was perfect.
Justice part 2. Haha. Even they were like, ten time changes per song was insane and long winded
11. ST ANGER (2003) Rate 5,5/10 incl St Anger, Frantic, Unnamed Feeling
10. KILL EM ALL(1983) Rate 6/10 incl Jump In The Fire, Seek & Destroy, No Remorse
09. RELOAD (1997) Rate 6/10 incl Fixxer, The Memory Remains, Unforgiven 2
08. LOAD (1996) Rate 7/10 incl Outlaw Thorn, Until it Sleeps, Hero Of The Day
07. HARDWIRED...(2016) Rate 7,5/10 incl Moth Into Flame, Spit Out The Bone, Halo On Fire
06. DEATH MAGNETIC (2008) Rate 8/10 incl The Day That Never Comes, All Nightmare Long & one of the best Kirk Sols ever Unforgiven 3
05. 72 SEASONS (2023) Rate 8,5/10 incl Inamorata, Shadows Follow, If Darkness Has A Son
04. RIDE THE LIGHTNING (1984) Rate 9/10 incl Fight Fire With Fire, For Whom The bell Tolls, Fade To Black
03. METALLICA/BLACK ALBUM (1991) Rate 9,5/10 incl Unforgiven, Sad But True, My Friend Of Misery
02. AND JUSTICE FOR ALL (1988) Rate 10/10 incl Blackened, One, Harvester Of Sorrow
01. MASTER OF PUPPETS (1986) Rate 10/10 incl Battery, Master of Puppets, Welcome Home
I haven't listened to "72 Seasons" yet but I go as:
10. St. Anger
9. Load
8. Reload
7. Hardwired... to Self-Destruct
6. Death Magnetic
5. Metallica
4. Kill 'Em All
3. Master of Puppets
2. Ride the Lightning
1. ...And Justice for All
I'm surprised that Jason is so enamored with the production on And Justice for All. I usually agree with his production assessments but I hate how this album sounds. It would be so much better with Newsted's bass.
There are videos that adds bass.
interesting ranking here’s mine. surprised with the view on death magnetic it’s my favourite of last 3 all nightmare long my favourite tune.i was surprised with the view of james’s vocals but i see some of your points.i wonder what justice and albums after would have been like if cliff was still around🤔.
master
ride
…and justice
kill em all
metallica
death magnetic
72 seasons
load
hardwired
reload
st anger
oh nothing mentioned about lulu with lou reed probably for the best 😀
like zeppelin so great so young first FOUR and HALF albums
Here is my rankings as an old school Metallica fan from that 80's
1. Master of Puppets
2. Ride the Lightning
3. ...And Justice for All
4. 72 Seasons
5. Kill'em All
6. Death Magnetic
7. The Black Album
8. Load
9. Hardwired... To Self Destruct
10. Reload
11. St Anger
That's right 72 Season breaks into the top 4 Metallica albums for me. This album is absolutely outstanding and if you don't like my opinion then come fight me about it!!!
Aren't you allowed to have fun, guys? You look soooo serious.
Get in there, Jason! It is my favourite album from them and it remains that. I prefer "Reload" to "Load" because of "Fuel" and it's shorter.
Not enough love for Death Magnetic here. Their best since The Black album. Better than Hardwired too which was half a good album. I don’t care about production. Even 72 Seasons is better than Hardwired.
Blame Rick Rubin.
@@TastesLikeMusicIt’s never been a problem for me. It’s just better song for song than Hardwired.
@@TastesLikeMusic I really hope you can track down the Guitar Hero mix of Death Magnetic, it's much better sounding in every way. Properly mixed, all the muddiness and clipping is completely gone and the instrumentation really brings out the song writing in a much more satisfying way. I always recommend it to anyone who's major beef with DM is the production (which tends to ruin everything else)
Nice update, guys!
Never quite have been able to get into (Re)Load myself and St. Anger is just headache-inducing.
It’s interesting how the best album of that timeframe was Garage Inc., which could’ve been included because CD 1 was a new covers album.
I never heard any of the last three albums, but you guys got me interested in at least the last two!
1. Ride The Lightning
2. Master Of Puppets
3. …And Justice For All
4. The Black Album s/t
5. Kill Em All
6. Garage Inc.
7. Reload
8. Load
9. St. Anger
1. Master of Puppets
2. Ride the Lightning
3. Black Album
4. Kill Em All
5. Hardwired to Self Destruct
6. ReLoad
7. Load
8. ...and Justice for All
9. Death Magnetic
10. St. Anger
I don't know yet on 72 seasons. Most likely somewhere in the middle. Too early to place it yet.
1. Black
2. Master
3. ... And Justice For All
4. Ride The Lightning
5. Load
special shout-out to the '87 covers EP, which I like a lot
6. Kill 'Em All
7. Death Magnetic
8. Hardwired... To Self-Destruct
9. Reload
10. 72 Seasons
11. St. Anger
72 Seasons ranked 10th? Crap ranking. One of their best albums no doubt about it.
1 - And Justice for All
2 - Master of Puppets
3 - Ride the Lightning
4 - Black Album
5 - Kill em All
As far as I'm concerned, Metallica only made 5 albums. I choose to believe that they made so much money from the Black Album that they retired and allowed some far less talented lookalikes to assume the name and continue the band. There's only one song on Ride the Lightning I don't like. Master of Puppets is pretty much perfect. And Justice for All is my second favorite album of all time. I love the way it sounds. The lyrics and singing are harsh and angry and the sound of it matches that perfectly. I like about half of each of the other 2 albums. The singing from Hetfield ruins almost all of their other albums for me. Hardwired is the only album after the Black Album that I can stand to listen to at all, but Hammett should be ashamed of himself for the abominations that he calls solos on that album. I try about once a year to listen to St Anger. My record is a little over a minute before I just can't take it anymore and turn it off.
I lean closely to Joe. Love Metallica. They're probably in my Top 20 favourite artists of all time. Definitely my 2nd favourite metal band behind Black Sabbath. They were one of the first three rock-oriented bands I ever got into. "One" was like the first metal song I ever heard and I just kept replaying that on RUclips all the freaking time. When I was trying to lose weight, I would listen to Kill Em All nonstop while working out. They're pretty much responsible for me getting into metal. If Black Sabbath are the grandfathers of modern metal, Metallica are the fathers. For better or worse. I'm surprised Kramzer liked them even more now than he did before. He was pretty harsh on them before, but now he was pretty damn positive. Jason's reaction was to be expected.
My ranking would be:
1. Ride the Lightning (5/5)
2. Kill Em All (5/5)
3. Master of Puppets (5/5)
4. The Black Album (4.5/5)
5. And Justice For All (4.5/5)
6. Hardwired (4/5)
7. Load (3.5/5)
8. Death Magnetic (3.5/5)
9. Reload (3/5)
10. 72 Seasons (3/5) - need to give this one a few more spins.
11. St Anger (2/5).
I would have suggested turning the bass knob way down on Jason.
11. 72 Seasons
10. Hardwired
9. Reload
8. Load
7. St. Anger
6. Death Magnetic
5. Metallica
4. Kill Em All
3. Master Of Puppets
2. Ride The Lightning
1….And Justice For All
That movie song “I Disappear” (?) was the last song that I can remember making any impact on me. I remember listening to that Deaf Magnetix in my car like every day for a month and I can’t remember a single thing about it. The shittiest load of badly recorded and mastered crap.