Why DIY Aluminium Ingots Are Worthless
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this video I will explain why DIY Aluminium (Aluminum) Ingots are worth hardly any money at all.
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I totally agree. I used to be in the scrapping industry with cars. I ran a scrap yard for nearly 5 years. I noticed a lot of difference between scrap yards with what they are willing to pay for different types of metals. I will make ingots just because I enjoy it and I will use the ingots to make other things. Just easier to store than cans etc.
It's a fascinating hobby scrapping. Making ingots for pleasure gives so much happiness, excitement and happiness, those are things money cannot buy.
I melt nothing, but have come to appreciate these types of videos. Thank you for your honesty and great video!
It was just a comment a subscriber left on the Aluminium Cans video that got me thinking and researching. I hope it proves useful to people so they don't make the mistake of thinking they are making an investment. Many thanks for watching and your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Haha.... thanks Matt what lovely words.... I apreciate that a lot...
Regards scrapyard mark.
Well hopefully it gets you a few more. I think you said you were under 200 subs before Vandal and me gave you a shout out, you're nearer now to the 300 mark. You'll get there. It takes time and patience.
I couldn’t agree with you more..If it wasn’t for me using it to make castings I would turn it all in to the yard… I would say I turning over 80% of the aluminum I get and I melt maybe 20%… The one thing about melting Cans is you lose roughly 1/3 to slag Which don’t get me wrong it’s a great time Melting cans 🤣.. what I didn’t know is that there’s over 300 types of aluminum that’s crazy😳..I enjoy working with aluminum because it’s easy like you said but my favorite is copper 👊🏻great informational video like always and thank you so much for the shout out you don’t know how much we appreciate that have a great day Matt👊🏻
I know you just do it for the sheer enjoyment. Highly addictive hobby. No money can buy that feeling.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 yes sir that’s spot on my friend 👊🏻
hello matt congratulations on getting monetised. I didn't skip no adds. very informative video on the ally.great shout outs and all have great channels 👍👍👍
Hope you received my email?
@@madmattsbucketlist385 yes buddy I've been really busy. how did you get on at the doctors and are you OK?
@@nightscrapperuk13 I'll find out in a week and half. Things just are so slow with them at the moment. Funnily enough I was referred for tests a year and half ago for something else. A letter arrived today inviting me for an appointment. I don't need that appointment now. It's understandable with Covid. Speak soon.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 a week and half blimey slow aren't they .I actually got my letter for my covid jab.am 50/50 about having to be honest. I've emailed you ,speak soon matt
@@nightscrapperuk13 I would definitely have your jab, there's no other defence we have against the virus at the moment. I had the Astra Zenica one. Being as run down and ill as I am that's why the side effects were so bad. Be prepared that you might wake up the next day not able to go to work and all the aches and pains. The fatigue can last up to a month with some people. Saying that a neighbour of mine both he and his wife are almost 80 and they were fine. If you catch Covid that will definitely be far worse than the side effects of the jab. I would say definitely have it done, plus there are so many mutations starting. Play on the safe side. Speak soon.
Brilliant Matt. Great shout outs. two top guys. I have been having a very rough night, I am tired of being tired and not getting anything done during the day. 3 am and been sleeping for two hours at a time since 8pm, And having a horrible acid stomach since midday yesterday. don't mean to be a downer . take care Matt. Hope you are doing well .
I know exactly how you feel. when you say you're tired of being tired you hit the nail on the head. I haven't been out since November, apart from my 1st jab. then that knocked me for six and I'm still recovering from that. the doctor gave me a new tablet, which is meant to 'help'. All it has done is completely altered my sleep pattern. Same as you. A couple of hours here and there. Just feel too tired to do anything. With your acid stomach, rather than taking any medication, have you tried cornflour and milk? Fill a mug not too full with milk, pour the milk into a saucepan, leave about half an inch of milk in the mug and add one or two teaspoonfuls of cornflour to the milk in the mug. Put the milk in the saucepan onto boil, then stir the cornflour into a thick'ish consistency in your mug. When the milk comes to the boil pour it back into the mug and stir well. Add sugar if needed. Let it cool enough so it doesn't burn your insides, either drink sips or use a spoon, all depends how thick the consistency is. It works wonders. If you feel sick or have any form of upset stomach, it calms everything down. If the acid comes back just make another mug of it. You can but try, hope it works. Matt.
Interesting. I would say that the final bar is going to be an unknown alloy, but would be easily converted by an industrial aluminum processor. Isn’t it likely that some of the demand for aluminum bars on eBay is from artists and craftsmen and the like? They are not worthless, but the point that you may be putting in more input costs than you will ever recover is valid.
Hi bud good video and here in Australia 🇦🇺 i live in South Australia and our cans take to the scrap yard and get $.10c each and plastic bottles $.10c and if someone litters and drops it on the street someone guaranteed to pick it up with in minutes so even if you only melt cans only to make ingots you would lose ship loads of money
Basic ingot for craft molding with diverse molds ought to work fine? On the other hand ... if you make your own ingot of only one type of Al you min E you am ... the testing would come out clean. So anyone tried that?
Nice! You have educated me further about "allies". I can see the allure of a pile of ingots, and understand the hobby of ingot making, but, for me, I collect ally for the sole purpose of selling it at as high a price as possible. I'm sure there are folks here from both the ingot and scrap lots, and you have done a good service to both.
Thank you.
Well John it was your comment that made this video happen, so I thank you. I was in talks with an Aluminium (Aluminum) mill to visit, then after 4 or 5 weeks of emails, without warning they shut!!! I think I gave enough information for people to know what is going on. Many thanks for not only this comment, but your original comment as well, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 BUMMER! I was hoping to see your video of the operation. Good things come...
Yes Finally Monitized 💪 I still have loads of Scrap ill probably do a update video soon 👍
Ha..ha.. Yes definitely do an update video. That'll be well interesting. I might do a video on how to make money, but start off very, very small. I know i'll get grief for it from some people, but everybody has to start somewhere. Expecting to make big money straight away isn't realistic for alot of people. However a little here and there soon adds up as you know. I saw your latest video come up on my notifications, I'll hopefully watch it today or tomorrow. Surprising how many people rent bouncy castles, at least you're busy which is great. Stay safe buddy.
Nice video and good information
I actually have taken 1 to my local scrap yard and they said they will take them but at scrap value but I only do this as a hobby anyway so the profit is not really an issue for me I just want to fill my shelves then I’ll think about getting rid of them
Thanks for the shout out
You take care 👍
I knew you would fall into the category of it's a hobby for you and you just love the whole process. No money can buy that feeling. Let's hope you get over that 1k mark. I missed the video about the lead you did recently, I'll have to catch up on that. There's a beach near me where if I go metal detecting I find so much lead I can't lift it all back to the car. Anyway, stay safe. Speak soon. Matt.
Only reason yards are warey of ingots is they don't know what may be inside them.
@@scrapyardmarkmetalpicker614 they actually took 2 of my ingots and sent them to a lab ( well that’s what they told me ) and it come back 93% aluminium so yeah your not really going to get pure aluminium at home
@@meltingipswich the yard i worked at had an x ray testing gun wich tells you exactly what's in it. Its just that some people put lumps of iron of lead inside them. but it don't matter you enjoy what you do and its a good way of storing it in a small space and it s still worth the current old rolled price. Stacking looks good I love seeing ally,copper and brass stacks. Very pleasing to look at. Keep it up.
@@scrapyardmarkmetalpicker614 👍
The resonance in the audio is really annoying. You should invest in curtains to manage the echo
Congratulations on your monetization well deserved great shout outs of some awesome channels another informative video
Oh buddy if you only knew the hassle it takes to fill out what they need. I'm not very tech savvy, but the second part of it, is a nightmare. I had no idea what I was doing. I pressed some button and it went through. Talking of monetisation. How many hours have you got in total at the moment, surely you can't be far off?
Could also apply modern techniques for increasing hardness like cold work or using phase diagrams to hit good temps for the right microstructure
Congrats on monetization, yay
I was undecided whether to monetise or not. I thought try it as an experiment to see how long it takes to get paid and the whole process. Once I get my first payment I'll make a video about it. The good, the bad and the ugly, warts and all and just give an honest video about monetisation.
I am so glad you did this video, thank you for the information
Thank you Rose.
21 minutes to say potential contamination yielding unknown composition. That leaves 20 minutes and 50 seconds to move on.
You know what, your not going to stop me posting my melting.
Good lad that's the spirit. I would have been really disappointed if you had. Remember YOU do what YOU want to do. Yes some comments will be tough to read, but it's because we care about you and don't want you getting hurt. As well as aluminum, it'll be interesting to see if you cast copper or lead as well. As I said I'll definitely still subscribe to you and keep on watching your videos and supporting you. I enjoy your channel. Keep the videos coming. Great attitude and spirit to have, well done. You should be proud of yourself.
I always wondered about this. Is there no way to purify the aluminum? Like electrolysis or something?
Good video Matt. Informative. I just watched 4 ads on your video and I didn't skip any of them. The first one was about 3 mins long the others were about 30 seconds each. And the video was great. Stay safe Matt. Looking forward to your next video.
Thanks for that, obviously I don't know how many ad's are shown. That sounds ok. I just don't want too many so people switch off. I sent you an email earlier today. Speak soon.
If you only think about money, then nothing is worth it.
True!
@@Spadestr81 So TRUE!
I keep thinking about this video asking myself: "Are homemade aluminium ingots really worthless?" I would say "wortless" is a strong word in this case. However, I need more information about the process of recycling aluminium. They press cans to a cube in a scrapping yard. I don't know what follows, though. I will try to sell one ingot to the scrap yard just to compare it with what I get for bare cans
You won't get much more at a scrap yard than cans because they still have to make a profit. Selling like on ebay would be better, as instead of the scrap yard wanting about 50% profit, you could gain about 82% profit. Only problem with ebay is paying for shipping, but that can be factored into the price.
Yes I injoy making mine and as long as people are buying them there not worthless. Your video was made 11mouths ago when I am committing and in the US there are lots of solds on ebay for around 2lbs plus shipping. And there are artists that buy them for casting. The value is not just what the scrap yard will pay. I plan on making cast art pieces to sale in the future. So my opinion worthless no but at the scrap yard yea pretty much. If you want scrap yard price just keep in original form and hold.
After making the video, I agree with you about making cast art pieces. People are looking for something different at times. With the right skills I agree with your comment. Also I agree with your opinion, worthless no but scrap yard price, yes. Many thanks for watching and commenting, both are much appreciated.
I'm a full time cnc machinist. You have just entered the rabbit hole of mettallurgy.
If you think that's interesting simply type into youtube types of steel.... then say goodbye to a good few hours lol.
There are mind boggling amounts of different metal alloys. Bear in mind literally three quarters of all known chemical elements in the world are classified as metals.
Oh blimey tell me about it. While doing some research, before I knew it, quite a few hours had passed. Alot of scrapping channels just take things apart, which I do as well and it fascinates me, as I have no engineering or mechanical experience. Something comes along and I just have to try and understand it more. Aluminium (Aluminum) completely blew my mind with all the different mixes they can make and the finished products. Totally fascinating, but as you say I've just entered that rabbit hole. Maybe some people don't want to know but my overly curious mind just has to dig a little deeper. Many thanks for your comment and viewing my video both are very much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 well has off to you for making a video and sharing it.
I never expected there would be people who would sell or buy aluminium as an investment, especially in the form of ingots. It is a purely industrial metal. You can make some money of speculation in the market (if you got millions already). But at the scale of kilograms it is good for a hobby only.
Very interesting, I love watching the recycling and sorting methods, window frames have to become new window frames, cans new cans etc. Good video thanks Matt, you've probably helped a lot of people! One question, what if you only use for example the same type of heat sinks in an ingot? No mixtures of any kind. Would the problem still be that they can't tell what is in if for reuse or would it just be analysed? Just curious 🙂
I thought exactly the same. I was in contact with an aluminium mill before making this video and was hoping to visit. Then without a word of warning they shut!!! When I find out I'll let you know.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 oh no, typical 🙈 Thanks Matt!
Keep the British form of spoken All you min E you am. It keeps you authentic, and the USA has no problem knowing what you are referring to. .
My new hobby is cleaning pennies. I just love em.
If they are British pennies, I think up until 1992/3 they contained 89% copper. Some people trade them in as copper as they are worth far more as scrap. I should look into that one day.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 I only buy pennies that are over 100 years old. And for me melting coins is just crazy!
But it’s still very fun!
Matt I need a better thumbnail for my latest video. The street scrapping video. I've changed the title to 'how to find copper'. And the bloody thumbnail is just an old back street. I do know how to upload thumbnails. I took a picture of a bucket of bright wire and that was gonna be my thumbnail. When I went to upload it on my Chromebook it said 'this thumbnail is over 2 mb'. So I used an app to compress it smaller. And it did get smaller. But youtube is still saying it's over 2 mb and I know it's isn't. I dont suppose your nephew would know anything about this would he. I'd be ever so grateful. The title I think is good but that damn thumbnail is spoiling it.
I didn't realise you'd left 2 comments. Yes I emailed you this morning. I can't get the hang of thumbnails at all, even after they have been compressed.
Much love Matt
OMG you left a comment as well. Much love baby girl. Thank you for all your help. If you were wondering about my doctors results, best to email me as it's personal for me don39t_give_up202063@aol.com Thank you Teresa, so, so sweet. Matt.x.
hello, you got ad in yor video. that good
Were there too many ads?
@@madmattsbucketlist385 yeah.
this is highly useful information! subscribed!
Many thanks for your kind words. i always talk too much in my videos, but I like to look at scrapping in a different way, some history, knowing how things started, were they came from. I have no engineering background or mechanical experience and it just fascinates me how these metal components are put together. Then when taking apart, trying to work out how they work. I did a video about how much copper and brass are in a plug, but I thought it important to say how electricity started in Britain and became the National Grid. I just have an overly curious mind. Many thanks for watching and also taking the time to comment. Both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Wow. It would be nice to use US dollars in the videos as well as whatever currency you’re talking about.
You mentioned that if the aluminum has copper in it “rusts” Research aluminum bronze and why it is used in the marine industry and tell if you still believe that.
Also you mentioned that “number six” isn’t used…… Almost all dimensional aluminum in North American is 6061…….
Kent I could not find anything at all about the number six, as we'll call it. From memory it said it either wasn't used or very rarely. That's fascinating to hear you say that almost all dimensional aluminium in North America is 6061....
I'll definitely look into aluminium bronze and why it's used in the marine industry.
I love comments that point me in the right direction when I'm wrong and also further research. Always keep on learning at least one new fact a day.
Really good to talk to you, once again thanks very much for your knowledgeable feedback.
Matt.
I once had a neighbor crazy over scrapping. Silliest thing was him tearing down a airplane in his yard for aluminium.
JJ welcome, thank you!!! That is definitely taking it to an extreme. I was originally going to do the things on my bucket list but Covid hit. Hopefully in time I'll be able to start ticking some off my list. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Coming off Lockdown here, crazy, nobody wants to go back to work.
Cool
You're obviously the same as me, can't sleep. I was hoping to get that bottle you said about yesterday, didn't get chance. I'll be getting it this morning. Can't wait to wrap it round my neck. I could do with it right now. Speak soon. Matt.
Been speaking to Nathaniel Outdoor Adventures. Don't know whether you know he's recently arrived in the UK. He's obviously got to quarantine for 10 days. Lovely Shepherds Hut he's staying in on a farm with a beautiful view. He's a little worried, I think, that it's going to drive him bonkers being in quarantine for those days. If you haven't seen his video, wow, what a lovely place to stay and relax.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Any friend of Treasure, got's to be a good channel
@@jjmoneymaker3578 Thanks JJ I really appreciate your support. Hopefully when I'm feeling better, maybe Corinne and I can do a collaboration of videos. There are 3 areas to investigate and when I realised she lived not far from me I thought it would be good fun doing it together. We'll see how things go and how Treasure feels about it. Speak soon. Take care. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 I sure wish you luck Matt
If I sound kinda iffy it's because I only know one person I can do collabs with, that's chickengeorge1236 Texas Folk Artist.
i know anll metals. diferent types of metal and sorts of metals. Welcome done to get ovver 1k
Just got lucky with the 1k buddy.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 yeah
Aluminum isn’t mined.
Bauxite is…..
Aluminum as the metal we know does not exist in nature, it is man made product. Other metals do exist in nature, or copper and gold. But saying that aluminum is mined is further from the truth than saying steel is mined….
Kent, I love knowledgeable comments. I think I should have phrased it Australia is the biggest producer of Aluminium in the world. It's a long time since I made the video so I can't remember what I said, but as Aluminium is an alloy, thinking about it now it can't be mined. Also another gentleman from Scandanavia gave the ratios for what they call Nordic Gold, he said that is what the euro coins are partly made from. I noticed you left another message which i'll reply to now. Thank you for watching the video but most importantly commenting. Both are much appreciated. Thanks, Matt.
@Mad Matt's Bucket List I was checking up on cleaning aluminium cans and found this video ruclips.net/video/HHWNqxCYMtA/видео.html
Do you think the whole can would be worth more completely clean? Also would it be worth melting them down then?
atomvamp good to hear from you. With the video you suggested the cost of the nail varnish remover will far outweigh and outstrip any profit you'd make. It's too expensive. I'll try and do a video where I use a food based chemical, which is cheaper and safer, then I will cut the can up and take it down my yard for them to class the aluminium (aluminum). There are two types of aluminium in a can, the top and bottom and the main body. I was in talks with an Aluminium Mill to arrange a visit for them to explain everything. Then out of the blue they just shut after us emailing for about 5 weeks. I will keep researching and if I find anything out I will either contact you or make a video of it. Sorry I can't be of any more help than that at present. That is as far as my research has taken me. Oh I forgot to ask you. I reluctantly monetised my channel recently. I just think there are too many adverts. If you remember from the video you watched, or if you watch another video of mine, I'd be really interested to hear whether you think there are too many adverts or you are ok with them. Once I get my first payment I will make a video about it. The good, the bad and the ugly, warts and all. Many thanks. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 ah right, I was thinking that cost of the nail polish remover might've been a bit of a problem. That sounds like it will be an interesting video to watch. I'm not worried about adverts, they're never on for too long anyway. On a more personal note, whereabouts do you live because your accent seems familiar. Are you welsh by any chance?
@@atomvamp9978 Yes i'm Welsh. South Wales.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 hahaha I bloody knew it. Me too, I'm from Pontllanfraith.
@@atomvamp9978 I've got an absolutely hilarious clip about the Covid strain, I think that only the Welsh will laugh at, it'll be wasted on everybody else. when I get time this week i'll sort it out and either put it up as a private listing for you or something. You'll wet yourself laughing. I'll speak to you soon. Diolch. Matt.
I just melted some
I think the best way to make money from the aluminum ingots is if you make them into some unusual or really cool shape that you know people will buy. You probably watch Street Copper 11. If you work out how to make the shapes, then I can't see why you won't make money that way. Just an idea.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 I’m aware they aren’t worth much, I just think they are cool
@@Thatgaycoincollector There you go, no money can ever buy that feeling it gives you. That means you've found an amazing hobby that you really enjoy. Go for it buddy.
@@Thatgaycoincollector Just watched your aluminum video. Comments are turned off on the video. Great job buddy, they look amazing. I love how you keep touching and playing with them. Street Copper 11 calls them his babies, I bet you know the feeling now. They look really cool. Well done.
Hey buddy, I'm trying to create a Channel list on the Channel button on my site. I'm going to split it up, hopefully into different categories. Scrappers and EWaste Scrappers. If I can get the different categories to work, which would you prefer Scrappers or Ewaste Scrappers or both? Not 100% sure how to do it yet, but I'll try. Watched your video of the ingots today, your forge looks far easier to pour than a devil forge, you seem to get a smoother pour and ingots from them. Really impressed with how many you've done so far. Keep up the good work. As I said I'd be really interested when you've poured alot more to hear what you think of the forge. I know Freeisbetter were thinking of getting one. They haven't made videos for months now. Another guy did a review of the forge but he had LOADS of different sized Devil Forges and preferred the Devil Forge. Anyway let me know when you've got time. Impressive video today. Well done.
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Aluminum-inium
Oh tell me about it. I'm caught between the devil and the deep blue sea with alot of words that people from America pronounce differently. It's hard to keep everybody happy, Aluminium is the correct way but numerous subscribers from the US complained. Garage is another word. I tried to play safe with Ally but kept slipping into Aluminium or Aluminum. Tough one keeping everybody happy. Many thanks for your comment & watching, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 You're British. Don't pander to them.
@@VintageLifeCars Martin I will stick to the 'Queen's English'. I had sooo many comments about saying the word Aluminium, that's why I made one video saying both pronunciations. One subscriber got pretty angry with me in a comment, but I then explained the difference about British English and American and the history behind it. In the end we got on well, once he knew the history. I love the Australian accent and different words they use. It's hard Yakka and so on. There are a only a couple of TV shows over here to watch from Australia, but I prefer the shows where normal people talk, not actors. Aussie Gold Hunters is a good one. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Both are very much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Brits listen to American pronunciations on TV, they can listen to yours on your channel. Australians don't pander to America, Britain's oughtn't either. All local accents are our heritage and culture.
You are not correct...on a lot of you info. You might want to research abit more my friend. Awesome video tho, I enjoyed it.
Click Bait. I’ve been watching over 10minutes and you still haven’t got to the point.
Ann it's because i talk way too much. Not do I just go A-Z but round the houses as well. Basically not all Aluminium is made up of the same mix. Think of Greenhouses or The EU cent coins, or aluminium cans. Yes they are all aluminium but not all the same mix in each. That is why Aluminium ingots are worthless as you are mixing all pf those together,, the scrap yard will only give you clean aluminium prices for them. I hope that was alot quicker to read and made sense. Take care. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Thank you so much for explaining that. Very clear and easy to understand. However, as you just said, it’s not worthless at all; you’ll still get clean aluminum prices, which means, yes, the title is essentially click bait.
Again, Some people should not smoke marijuana.
Ha..ha..I understand what you mean. People make videos about silly things under the influence.
Great video.. Just what i needed to hear.