Yes ♥️🦍🤝🤝The gorillas in this troop get along very well with the mangabeys. I’ve seen many instances of Mosi and Lomako interacting gently with these mangabeys.
I wouldn't have thought Dalila would have any breast milk at her age and being a foster mum. I think the baby likes to suck like he would a soother 🐵👶💚
I think there must have been a decision made among the international bodies (Species Survival Plan?) governing the keeping of captive gorillas, or at least the European one, that the best way forward was to neuter some infant male gorillas to enable them to stay in their family troops for life, rather than have to be removed at age 12-14 due to conflicts with the silverback, and it also removes the danger of inbreeding. I realize it’s very controversial, but meeting the unique social needs of captive gorillas is very complicated. They are naturally very social and are usually miserable if forced to live alone, but they can’t live in large mixed-sex troops the way chimpanzees can. There can be only one adult male in a family troop. But just as many male gorillas are born as females, so what that means is there are always going to be superfluous males whose social needs also have to be met somehow once they mature. Neutering a certain number of them I suppose was decided on as a better solution than just sentencing them to solitary lives as adults. Bachelor groups were another, and much better solution to this problem but most zoos don’t have the space or resources for them. And as far as I know there are no primate sanctuaries that can keep gorillas, either in North America or Europe, because their needs are so complicated.
@AllThingsGorilla i suppose it is the name of the little baby monkey in this video so the name will start with a big letter, Mangabey, not mangabey, learn the difference 🤣🤣🙄
He and Mosi have been castrated sadly. Neither will develop their silverbacks or the muscle mass normally associated with being an adult male gorilla. 😢😢
This Zoo forcibly castrated loango which prevented him from maturing into a silverback, as such his body has a hormone imbalance and can no longer produce testosterone like a heathy male, all of this resulting in him looking & behaving much like a female gorilla would. I’m very disgusted that the zoo would even do this.
Why do they have these two young male gorillas together with the females and the silverback? Don't they have more room or what is the cause? Thank you so much.❤❤❤
They are not young at all, they have been castrated unfortunately, so they look so tiny, almost like a female gorillas 😢 Loango is the same age as the silverback, and the other one is 5 years younger (Loango, ♂, 19 years old, Mosi, ♂, 14 years old).
@AlinaWhitfield0510 Unfortunately, both Loango and Mosi have been neutered. They are the son and brother of the late silverback Makula, with Mosi （son ）and Loango（ brother）
I still have not received any definitive answer regarding this issue, nor have I seen any information about Makongo being neutered at 4 weeks old. If I receive a clear answer, I will share it with everyone as soon as possible.
@@annemariemcnamara8756Lomako’s line is probably over represented in the gorilla population. His father Yaounde had thirteen offspring in the seven different zoos he was spreading his seed around in. That’s a lot of moving for one guy. Then there is Tamidol’s over represented genetics. I’m not saying that I agree with castration but trying to figure out why the species survival plan would find it necessary.
Não existe plano de sobrevivência com castração, não é uma grande população igual cães e gatos, são gorilas criticamente ameaçados de extinção, não tem desculpa para castração, é surreal, um absurdo, é acelerar a extinção, tiraram o direito do Mosi e Loango de se tornar lindos Silverbacks e aumentar a população de gorilas, é muito perverso, inaceitável e infelizmente o culpado não foi punido, é ajudar os caçadores.
Loango et Mosi ont été castrés quand ils étaient encore bébés. C’est une décision de l’EAZA (l’Association européenne des zoos et aquariums). Le but, c’était d’éviter trop de reproduction entre individus avec les mêmes gènes, et de faire en sorte qu’ils puissent rester dans le groupe quand ils seront adultes. Lomako n’est pas leur père. C’est un jeune gorille de 19 ans. Il a pris la tête du groupe en 2022. Il n’a qu’un seul petit : Makongo
The baby mangabe is so cute and tiny. Mom is sitting there observing everything going on
So sweet both mama’s sitting there with babies, new monkey mom is like look I got a baby too😅😅
Aww…Nala needs her own baby. She would be such a good Mom! ❤❤
I would to see her with Gentaro. They would make beautiful babies.
@@deanieedwards8117I think so too. Gentaro is Absolutely Gorgeous 😍
Yo pienso en kiyomasa, gentaro podría aparearse con annie
Le jour où Nala aura son bébé à elle, elle sera la maman la plus heureuse de sa famille ❤❤❤
Adorable et précieuse Nala 🥰♥️
The gorillas and mangabeys are the neatest interspecies friendship.
Yes ♥️🦍🤝🤝The gorillas in this troop get along very well with the mangabeys. I’ve seen many instances of Mosi and Lomako interacting gently with these mangabeys.
I think Mosi would have made an attentive father. Breaks my heart to see those two boys like this every darn time.
Yes, Mosi is very gentle. He would have been a wonderful father, but…💔💔🦍
Does Dalilah have breast milk?? Sometimes I see the baby sucking the breast@@AllThingsGorilla
I wouldn't have thought Dalila would have any breast milk at her age and being a foster mum. I think the baby likes to suck like he would a soother 🐵👶💚
I think there must have been a decision made among the international bodies (Species Survival Plan?) governing the keeping of captive gorillas, or at least the European one, that the best way forward was to neuter some infant male gorillas to enable them to stay in their family troops for life, rather than have to be removed at age 12-14 due to conflicts with the silverback, and it also removes the danger of inbreeding.
I realize it’s very controversial, but meeting the unique social needs of captive gorillas is very complicated. They are naturally very social and are usually miserable if forced to live alone, but they can’t live in large mixed-sex troops the way chimpanzees can. There can be only one adult male in a family troop. But just as many male gorillas are born as females, so what that means is there are always going to be superfluous males whose social needs also have to be met somehow once they mature. Neutering a certain number of them I suppose was decided on as a better solution than just sentencing them to solitary lives as adults.
Bachelor groups were another, and much better solution to this problem but most zoos don’t have the space or resources for them. And as far as I know there are no primate sanctuaries that can keep gorillas, either in North America or Europe, because their needs are so complicated.
@@karolineharuno7733 If she’s had babies of her own in the past it’s likely she’s still able to produce some milk, but probably not very much.
He looks so peaceful ☺️ when he asleep. 😴 Sounds like some construction going on. Now that loud noise made me jump too Mosi. 🥰❤️❤️
Yes, there is construction going on next door. The zoo is building an enclosure for hippos 🦛.
Nala wants a baby of her own.
Ohhh we have a baby mangabey too ❤. How sweet does Makongo look sleeping safe and snug in Aunti Delihas arms ❤
Lomako and Nala seem to have a nice relationship and I'm here for it! ❤😊
The baby mangabey is the cutest🥰🥰🥰
Amazing video of Makongo sleeping.
Dank je wel voor je geweldige video 💯💯 Zo kunnen we mommy Dalila en Makongo een beetje volgen💗💗💗 Ik hoop weer vlug op een mooie video van je!👍👍
👌♥️😘🦍
The baby so sweet 😍🩷
😘👶🦍♥️ Yes, he is so cute 🥰
I've just discovered our magnificant silverback at Taronga Zoo (Kibali) is Lomako's brother!
Really? Then Kibali must be very handsome too🥰😘🦍♥️♥️👍
@AllThingsGorilla He is a gorgeous silverback! Very lovely temperament as well ❤️
Yes Kibali is a beauty for sure
Thank you for your great video! 🙂
😍😍🤝😘♥️Thank you for liking this video.
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*Mangabey* not "mangabey"
Sorry 😅 Mangabey not mangabey? ? I don’t really know what you mean 😅
@AllThingsGorilla i suppose it is the name of the little baby monkey in this video so the name will start with a big letter, Mangabey, not mangabey, learn the difference 🤣🤣🙄
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😍♥️🦍🥰
What relation zola, loango, Nala and mosi have with Dalila
Dalila is not related to any of them. Dalila used to be the mate of Makula, who is Nala, Zola, and Mosi’s father. Makula is Loango’s brother.
Question: Are Nala and Zola related to Lomako? If not, is it possible that they could be mates for him?
Yes they can mate with him
They aren't related. Lomako has shown interest in Zola but not Nala. Information I got from a past video😊
@ Thank you!
Why do they do that, if they are endangered? I don't get that!
The zoo merely adhered to the EAZA’s guidelines; they aren’t the ones making the decisions. Personally, I find this method to be quite cruel.
Why is loango so tiny? Is he sick? He is so thin
He and Mosi have been castrated sadly. Neither will develop their silverbacks or the muscle mass normally associated with being an adult male gorilla. 😢😢
This Zoo forcibly castrated loango which prevented him from maturing into a silverback, as such his body has a hormone imbalance and can no longer produce testosterone like a heathy male, all of this resulting in him looking & behaving much like a female gorilla would. I’m very disgusted that the zoo would even do this.
@@GrandRegentSScratch that's so sad
@rhondaadams674 I’m deeply saddened to inform you that Loango and Mosi have been neutered.
@AllThingsGorilla Please explain why they have been neutered? It has to be a good reason why, I hope. TY
Is dahlia nursing the baby?
Yes, I think so
¿Será molesto para los gorilas oír tantas voces de la gente a su alrededor?
I think so. Although the glass is thick, the gorillas can still be affected.
Why do they have these two young male gorillas together with the females and the silverback? Don't they have more room or what is the cause? Thank you so much.❤❤❤
They are not young at all, they have been castrated unfortunately, so they look so tiny, almost like a female gorillas 😢
Loango is the same age as the silverback, and the other one is 5 years younger (Loango, ♂, 19 years old, Mosi, ♂, 14 years old).
@AlinaWhitfield0510 Unfortunately, both Loango and Mosi have been neutered. They are the son and brother of the late silverback Makula, with Mosi （son ）and Loango（ brother）
Is it confirmed that makongo was castrated at just the age of 4 weeks old? 😢
I still have not received any definitive answer regarding this issue, nor have I seen any information about Makongo being neutered at 4 weeks old.
If I receive a clear answer, I will share it with everyone as soon as possible.
@@annemariemcnamara8756Lomako’s line is probably over represented in the gorilla population. His father Yaounde had thirteen offspring in the seven different zoos he was spreading his seed around in. That’s a lot of moving for one guy. Then there is Tamidol’s over represented genetics. I’m not saying that I agree with castration but trying to figure out why the species survival plan would find it necessary.
I hope he wasn’t.😮
@@SPMarti-69 I thought the Species Survival plan is only in the US.
Não existe plano de sobrevivência com castração, não é uma grande população igual cães e gatos, são gorilas criticamente ameaçados de extinção, não tem desculpa para castração, é surreal, um absurdo, é acelerar a extinção, tiraram o direito do Mosi e Loango de se tornar lindos Silverbacks e aumentar a população de gorilas, é muito perverso, inaceitável e infelizmente o culpado não foi punido, é ajudar os caçadores.
Manga-baby!
Questions : Pourquoi Loango et Mosi sont-ils castrés et pourquoi ?
Lomako est-il leur père ?
Loango et Mosi ont été castrés quand ils étaient encore bébés. C’est une décision de l’EAZA (l’Association européenne des zoos et aquariums). Le but, c’était d’éviter trop de reproduction entre individus avec les mêmes gènes, et de faire en sorte qu’ils puissent rester dans le groupe quand ils seront adultes.
Lomako n’est pas leur père. C’est un jeune gorille de 19 ans. Il a pris la tête du groupe en 2022. Il n’a qu’un seul petit : Makongo
@@AllThingsGorilla Merci infiniment pour vos réponses. C'est très gentil à vous d'avoir pris le temps de me répondre. 🙏👍😘
Its not right what they did to thqt male
The zoo just followed the EAZA’s requirements; they are not the decision-makers. Of course, I think this is very cruel.