INSANE DIFFERENCES OF COMING OFF UPPERS VS. DOWNERS | Detox and Withdrawal
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2022
- For me and many I've talked to there is a huge difference coming off uppers vs. dowers. Uppers are way more mental and downers are more physical. The speedball is what many of us used including myself and the speedball detox is a little of both of these.
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Big fan of your channel. Cannabis saved my life and helped me quit prescribed uppers and downers. Adderall withdrawls were crazy for me but i got through them and im glad. I quit nicotine alcohol and pills. 420 i will always respect bc it slows down aging.
Thank you for speaking on this subject. It definitely can’t be easy to put all this out there for everyone to see. Takes guts. Stay strong in your sobriety journey & thanks again for sharing.
Thanks so much. That means a lot to me. It isn’t that easy and I’ve def had some struggles with it. But comments like this help me so much
Ive always preferred downers they made me really chilled out and calm, valium was one of my favourites, had a codeine pill addiction also, uppers were more intense I never liked the feeling as much but I feel downers are harder to get off than uppers.
Sad to even start in first place! God bless you! You’re helping so many,
Making my spring break great with all these vids man!!
Thanks so much griffin. That means a lot to me brotha
I just HAVE to comment it: If meth and cocaine increases the amount of dopamine by 1000%, that means it increases 10 times. 1000% is equal to 10 times not 1000 times. But that doesn't make it any better. Anyway I love your videos. Keep up with it!
Happy easter mate, love your videos xx
Thank you so much. Same to you. I know Easter was a while ago but still!!!
I did both always together, hand in hand. I had the same experience as you did with anytime a trigger happened, it would be the upper my brain would think about. I did, however, dream of downers more so than uppers. I found through my early recovery days that I'm really attracted to anything adrenaline related. But let me tell you, I was prescribed klonopin for 20 years and THAT was horrific to come off of. Worse than anything. My body still has some lasting effects from the benzo. I was the "speedball" addict.... thank God above I'm not in that life anymore and I'm 8 years clean, and I'm actually happy.
Yea you know same here. Had to have both. Weird that you had the downer dreams I never did. That’s unique
@@Soberdogs LOL, I know right! Funny, I've always been told that I was unique, ha ha... 🤣
I never not once enjoyed uppers NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Anyone else??
I hate uppers they get me always on the edge 🫤
I agree with you K Ruggs. The mental hold cocaine has 2-3 days later is brutal for me personally. I never really had dreams of downers though. But I have had intense, clear dreams about shooting up meth again. I wake up and I freak out! Check my arms...calm down a little. The freaking uppers man.
Yea it’s nuts what’s it does for like 2-3 days for real. It really makes the whole brain like in super depressive mode it suckssss. The dreams are the worst. Omg
Going off of a high dose of stimulants that I was prescribed for ADHD felt like I got dumped by the love of my life and my whole family died all at once. I only ever used meth here and there so I can't speak to that but I did use subs to get off H and that just made me feel empty. Like every day I was just going through the motions. Nothing like the complete emotional devastation of stimulants.
Same. Heroin and benzos were my favorites but I crave meth the most in sobriety.
I have so many memories from uppers but I do have a few downer memories engraved as well but those are almost all due to overdoses or getting a stronger hit and being able to nod off when I didn’t think I’d be able to.
And I’ve dons hell of a lot more boy n bars than crystal.
And for the mental thing personally, yeah coke was VERY mental and even if I had a bad high from doing too much, when I woke up I'd still be thinking about it and how much I loved it. With alcohol and Gabapentinoids they just alleviated my anxiety better than anything so I got much more hooked on those overall but definitely not as mental, I usually didn't even wanna drink deep down.
However, (again, for me) opioids were so sinister because they were both physical and mental. I never really forgot that first true opioid high, it was literally just 2 vicodins and a single beer but the Euphoria, warm dreamy floaty feeling will always be engrained in my mind on top of actually being physically hooked. Now I'm just taking kratom but I still don't feel good about that. Didn't feel good about being on suboxone either, I'm still on an opioid. Anyways, point being for me Opiates were the most sinister of all time because my mind was and to an extent still is deeply attached to them on top of the actual physical part/withdrawals
Your dead right about even using coke and going to bed and still waking up and thinking about it. And hell yes the opioids are so sinister because they are both mental and physical like you said.
I don't even consider myself a drug addict but ive dabbled in just about anything and everythibg besides heroin meth and crack but whenever i fantasies about doing drugs its always coke or Adderall. I enjoyed those the most and molly but molly comedowns were so bad for me I only used them at big rave festivals
Yea I wish I was the same, cause when it comes to uppers I could just have benders with em and I'd just quit em, however heroin is just a different animal for me
That’s so tru. It’s a daily beast. Not easy to just take breaks from heroin
thinking what if you took a shot of c0ke before you went out on that skydive. HOLY SHIT
Can totally relate to the dreams. Why do we have these dreams?
That’s a great question. I think it’s part of our memories and ingrained in our brain and then we dream about it from the past
I’m buying sober dogs shirt but I have it altered to say “friends of sober dogs” and joining Pateron. I hope it’s not too harsh
That’s awesomeeeeeee. Thank you sooooo much!!!
Hockey? Ski? What do you do for fun, honey! Praying for you every day! Let’s go!
Hey Lora. I love to ski. Usually anything outside. I like working out. Hanging with the dogs. What’s about you?
Your eyes look like you never really came down from uppers, ha ha 😀 ha
you and your eyes: 🤩
Well thank you lol. It’s more from the ring light and the set up. My pupils always look small on video with the lights and my dark brown eyes
Completely agree with you on this video Kyle it’s straight facts
Also I got a question Kyle.
How safe do you think GHB and Coke would be?
That’s a great question. I’m not sure. I think it would be a speedball like anything else one upper one downer. But prob not as dangerous as some of the other speedballs
For me it is the complete opposite I did uppers during my addiction but they were never my style I personally liked Xanax in large amounts and oxys and all I dream about is that (whenever I have a dream that is) just was wondering if u knew what makes someone prefer uppers over downers I want to try to understand what makes a person prefer one or the other if it’s life choices/people they hang around. Or if it is something to do with chemical makeup in the brain that makes someone want a downer more over an upper would be great if u have any information on this topic would love any knowledge I can get on it
I do think it is about personality. If you are an anxious guy then you wont enjoy that much uppers, but if you are lazy or depressed you might enjoy way more uppers
To me opiates/opioids are uppers, more so even than speed or coke! up till a point where I've used so much that I start jumping and talking non-stop. However! when I then sit down for a while, I can't keep my eyes open; if I then stand up again I feel like jumping and twittering again!
I think I've never met someone else who would react just like that.
Anyone else here with the same experience or knows someone like that?
Yeah when I was in the honeymoon phase maybe and at lower doses? Overtime they did the opposite, once I was 5 months+ in of daily usage I just felt like a zombie no matter the dose I took, you just end up always being in this emotionless fog. Low doses of anxioltyics (booze, benzos, Phenibut, Kava) are also known to be stimulating in a way but just like the different between 2 beers and 20, I'm sure if you shot up or smoked enough GOOD heroin you wouldn't be so "energetic and jumpy"
But with zero tolerance and at more lower to common doses...absolutely yes, heroin, oxy, Hydrocodone, morph, etc will be stimulating/motivating in a way especially if you have something like anxiety or depression.
Well yea it's hard to wake up in addiction for me cause every day I would have to have just a little bit or I wouldn't get up for a while
@@Schizniit "a while" 😀😄😂🤣 🤒
Wow really? I mean I can see that for the beginning period like the e first hour after doing opioids I def got an energy boost but after that it was all downer effects. Nothing crazy like the uppers did
I used to go UP on meth and adderall for 3 days and fall out for 2 days. I would drop some xanax or atavan and sleep it all off, wake up, eat and go back UP again. That was my life for the last 9 months of my active drug use. Now I look back and it disgusts me.
Damn rooster. It’s almost like an outer body experience isn’t it. Like we can’t even imagine that’s how we lived right?
@@Soberdogs It seems so surreal. I thought I felt so good and that nobody could tell I was on one or falling out. I thought I was doing a great job. Little did I know that while I was high the people I was with loved taking pics and vids. I would look through my phone and my iPad and find pics and vids of me doing things that were ridiculous and out of character. Good for me it was with a couple women. Lol! I've seen worse. It gives me anxiety attacks to think about it.
I have a friend who’s older sister 64. Uses meth. We r afraid 😱 Do we do intervention. To me meth is gross. I might approach like a mean parent. Any advice?
Hey Lora. That sucks sorry your dealing with. I think everyone should know how there gonna approach the person ahead of time. Sometimes the tough love is necessary. Others times it’s better to be calm and loving. I guess it depends on the person and who else is involved. Sorry it’s hard to say without knowing more info
You didn’t say, “let’s go!” Lol
Ooo man I forgot lol. Let’s goooo
Downers are just 💖
Nah upper gang 😼
Maybe it’s only like that if you inject
Yea it is a whole new level when injecting. You didn’t get that from smoking or snorting?
I will never forget the first time I sniffed cocaine. Everything about it was like it happened yesterday, 7 years clean.
hated downers, glad I never got into them
Really? Omg JB I loved downers. Had to have them with the uppers or just in general. Was like couldn’t have one without the other
Coming off of a long period of using coke/crack or amphetamines=eating and sleeping and watching TV with maybe a slight gloomy feeling.
Coming off of opiates, benzos or heavy alcohol abuse=hell on earth, worst sickness ever coupled with insane levels of anxiety, depression and all your senses Coming back. Man there is an extremely evil feeling to Coming off of all of those, withdrawaling off Opiates I'd look at a flower and cry 48-72 hours in especially, the extreme spouts of crying are the worst part In my personal opinion that I don't hear talked about much, I ca. Handle some muscle pain or some shroom like yawning followed by watery eyes, but all your emotions coming back at full force....all the screwed up things you've done to get well or while you were on a cocktail of booze and xans, etc...it's all coming back at you full force and it's extremely terrifying and depressing at the same time.
Really that’s all you go from the uppers? That sounds incredible mild for uppers but I’m glad it wasent to bad for you. Yea for sure the opioids suck. That’s 72 hour mark is brutal. And yea the crying is awful
Exactly. You described it will well
Sweetheart, I love u! I hope you do fun dopamine things like skydiving! A motorcycle! Hockey! I pray you find a nice young lady and get married and have a family!
I do Lora. No motorcycle. Never been a motorcycle person but skydiving and other things for sure Lora. And same to you.