The gaming industry has grown too much in recent years. To the point where creativity has taken a hit because it's too risky. We're too focused on profitability.
@@egymagnet hell yes. The increased growth started with the xbox shits and peaked during the PS3/360. That was also the worst period for gaming. Now we have at least the indies, but if you remove the indies, there isn't much left.
That’s not even half the problem. They put zero effort into what they do make and focus on monetization of in game cosmetics and currency over actual gameplay and game content.
Probably because the Ps5 Pro was supposed to be the original, but they wanted early sales for those sweet, sweet bar graphs to go up for their investors.
And still making releasing ps5 games that are supposed to be exclusive to ps4 thus downgrading the games and not being true next gen games. God Of War Ragarok should have been a bigger deal than it was graphically but because it was released on ps4 it was held back big time from potentially being revolutionary.
Nintendo CEO definitely commented a while back that the path that Microsoft and Sony focusing on High Fidelity as well as higher frame rates is not a sustainable model for developing video games, and it looks like this could be actually coming true with this generation of consoles, which will probably cost half a billion dollars to create new games.
Apparently Spider-Man 2 had a total budget of $315 million. And that's a 15 hour single player game. GTA VI is especulated to be in $2 billion range. Just insane.
When a game of that type of budget gets put out and it fails to sell well, it could actually mean the end of that studio, even if the game was actually good. That’s gotta feel like walking on a tightrope if you’re just a typical developer just trying to make ends meet.
Not that I know anything about game development but with current graphical master pieces like Horizon, we kinda got to where we need....now we just need the machines to put out that at 4k/60FPS and all of a sudden devs have it a lot of free time to focus on other things, plus with toolkits advancing and stuff, these things will eventually become the standard! What I am saying is, the focus on performance + fidelity isn't the issue, it's that our hardware isn't capable enough, so either you need really great engineers who cost a lot or beefy hardware which is yet to be born (ps6? maybe).
I'd call this console generation the "corporate generation", where the gaming industry as a whole has been tainted by the corporate mindset. Pretty much the majority of games, that aren't made by indie developers, have had every decision around them based off the demands of shareholders screaming "LINE GO UP!!!". The console environment feels like purgatory, as Nintendo is the only one in that hemisphere actually pumping out shit that's worth a damn, meanwhile Sony and Microsoft are trying to figure out more ways to convince people to fork over 600 for their newest consoles as well as another at least $60 for online multiplayer (but wait, if u spend $60 dollars we'll let you play this entire catalog of games, most of which are either horrible and not worth your time or simply here on borrowed time). Games that don't come out of the factory halfway finished and full of microtransactions are the biggest breath of fresh air nowadays. Game conferences, which used to be awesome can now be summed up to sitting in front of a livestream with a bingo card in your hands ready to cross out the boxes for when they use buzzwords like, "cutting edge", "innovation", "like never before", "diversity", "inclusiveness", "industry leading figures", revealing shitloads of DLC for already existing games, revealing new games that actually look cool with 30 second teasers, showing actual trailers for games that look terrible. Rockstar literally went from being the company that would pump out games of all kinds to releasing a new game once in a centennial period and Blizzard is full of creeps and sexual predators. We literally had to beg Valve to start making games again
Now I know it! When I first saw one at my friends' houses, I was like 3 or 4 years old, so everything was a bit confusing. And by that time, the PS1 was around the corner, which made everything else seem outdated.
Also, the jump from NES controller to SNES controller is huge, the extra buttons added a lot a function and utility, and the SNES controller also is a blueprint to the modern controllers.
It was ok but the real mind blower was jumping to 3d. Going from SMWorld to Mario 64 and Sonic Adventure was incredible. Watching Sonic run up and down a ring with 3d tracking was the coolest game demo I have ever seen.
The fact that most of the best games to come out this generation have been indie games says it all. The unbridled creativity that has been drained out of the biggest games is still fresh in indies and you can feel how devs have put their whole souls into their work.
This was true for about one month a decade ago. Now 99.9% of indie games are hot garbage. Mobile games were the last market in which any experimentation was happening until Genshin Impact and Unity killed that too. If there is any creativity left there isn't much and it is found in mods.
@FoxMcCloud-64 Nintendo is the one exception right now. And in many ways they always have been. But this video is more about Sony and Microsoft's consoles and you can't play Nintendo's games there. So given what's on offer... yeah the PS5 and Xbox Series X might as well be indie machines and Elden Ring.
@whosaidthat84 A whole bunch to be honest: Hollow Knight Undertale CrossCode Freedom Planet 1 + 2 Pizza Tower Celeste A Hat in Time Rivals of Aether Shovel Knight Penny's Big Breakaway Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair
You mentioned that the people still on last gen are on last gen because they don't *feel* like upgrading, but that just isn't the case. What it is, is that this console gen broke a rule. You're supposed to halve the price of your console midway through the gen. Console manufacturers betrayed their budget customer base by not slashing the prices of their hardware.
Also, Sony actually INCREASED the price of their console after a couple of years, despite a redesign of the internals to cut costs, as well as the price of manufacturing coming down dramatically. And they also increased the cost of games and subscriptions!
@@Ben-Roguebecause they don't have to. Sony knows that they are now the undisputed KING of gaming period. So now they're like apple: they can name their price on anything and as long as their main target audience (people with money) buy their stuff, they couldn't care any less for the average commoner now. It's tough but that's the reality of the situation. They've gotten too big.
@@HerotsLament How exactly are they the king? The might be somewhat better than xbox, but both sides shat the bed. Full torso ahead in the race? Yes. But king? Please. You can't be king with a console seller mediocre dlc-equels.
@@HerotsLament king? Bruh Nintendo exists and actually outsells the PS5 and it's games. Nintendo is at least the king if games. They have the most exclusives by far when it comes to any console. Nothing comes close to Nintendo when it comes to exclusives
As a PC gamer: if you take away all the indie games that arent avaible on console, it also looks VERY dark at the moment. The gaming industry has almost completely abandoned creativity and innovation, aswell as not delivering anything for a huge chunk of genres. So many studios that still made great games have been closed down due to being bought out by bigger companies that want to kill their competition.
Yeah, without Indie games all I'd have fore recent games would be Armored Core VI and Ace Combat 7. Maybe Minecraft, since I play modded 1.18. As an FPS player, these last few years have been great, almost entirely due to indie games.
I can't imagine growing up with this generation of consoles. Practically no exclusives after 4 years, boring hardware with a focus on the worst gimmick in decades, consistently awful ports & optimization. And an embarrassing state of AAA games. It's never been less exciting.
If you aren't close minded, then you have to admit that you can at least see why fortnite is so beloved by the younger generations. Tbh I think people growing up now have a hell of a good time. If I only imagine to play with 3 friends fortnite, Minecraft or some Roblox games I know that they will have fond memories from this. For me this kind of social games were playing final fantasy 8, pokemon red and blue or Mario party with my friends and brother. But I personally think today it's way better in general.
@@nindieboy4194 Fortnite is pretty brainless. The only thing that I personally liked from Fortnite was the guitar hero ripoff and I'd rather just play the real guitar hero if they still sold the instruments
You're just old man. When we were kids we were playing shitty games for hours (shitty in the sense that if we were in our 30s we would call them shitty) like those broken fighting games from PS1, the lame ass racing games from back then or ultra limited FPS with terrible framerate and graphics. If you ask a kid if he's having fun playing games now, he'd tell you that he loves games and why they are so awesome, and I'm sure that if we were 10 years old now we would be having a blast too. The older you grow the more bitter you become. I realized this and was able to start enjoying games again at 31 years old. Just enjoy what you play and you'll see that games are as fun as always.
The state of triple A gaming is indeed horrible but how is not having any exclusives a bad thing? I thought restricting games on just one console limited their sales and could end up bankrupting the studio and also why shouldnt all gamers experience a game?
@kosmas173 bc the fanboys I guess dont want others to experience these exclusives bc they want their soulless poor company😢😢 to get more money😢😢😢😢😢(Sony and microsoft)fanboys
Seems like this whole generation is feeling similar to what Wii U owners felt for the entirety of its life. Thank you for sharing in our pain. Just know that it can get better. It just might not happen this generation.
It still baffles me how several years ago people were talking about how will Nintendo survive the Xbox series x and PS5, and I was like "same way they always do" only I had no idea how bad it would be, the underpowered tablet is still beating their ass
TBF, their tablet had a unique selling point of portability, but if steam machines or MS manages to make portable xbox a thing, then suddenly things will shift drastically for Nintendo
@@sumomaster5585 I doubt that, the PS Vita didn't tank the 3ds, the steam deck hasn't slowed down the switch, don't even get me started that this generation has had a software problem.
@@sumomaster5585 You're making the same mistake as Xbox, focusing on the wrong thing. The Switch isn't selling like hot cakes because it's portable, that's just a gimmick. It's selling because they're MAKING GAMES. Games that EVERYONE can love and enjoy. The "Switch Effect" is very real, practically any switch release is guaranteed to sell millions of copies. Even from franchises that hav never sold even 1 million before. If Xbox makes a portable console, so what? What are people going to play on it? They don't make any new game sand they can't even get their OLD games to work via backwards compatibility, they gave up on that. so, again, what are they going to play? And Sony tried portable multiple times and failed. They're even trying it again with the smartphone bs. Which is also going to fail because you need a PS5 for it to even work.
@@jase276 Buddy I dunno what you talking about, CoD, WoW, Halo, gears of wars, Forza, ...etc, need I go on? last I checked they own ABK, Bethesda and they are the largest publishers right now and given that 99.99% of all games are on xbox, clearly it's you who's confused cuz what you mean to say is xbox doesn't have exclusives....which are supposed to be the cherry on top not the cake.....and that brings us to your mentality...you only want to play exclusives and measure platforms based on that..rather than treating it as the tool to access all the great games published by different publishers...I want all games everywhere cuz I gurantee you, no 1 would buy a Switch if they could play their games elsewhere...i like the form factor, but it's a shitty hardware and software combo.
@@sumomaster5585CoD doesn’t sell consoles like it used to. Halo as a brand is diminishing and there’s only 1 Halo game on the system that you can play on XB1. Gears, also just 1 game on the system (not even out yet) .We got the whole first trilogy and a spinoff all on just the 360. Now it’s one game per generation. And it’s all to make sure the game has the craziest graphics even tho it still can’t run smoothly. It’s a regression.
One thing that really annoys me is how much they talk about Graphical Fidelity and FPS when most of the time you have to choose between one or the other. Always 4K at 30 FPS or 1080p at 60 FPS, Give me 4K at 60 FPS!
Crazy how these "next gen" consoles can't do what PCs could 10 years ago,now i understand why some people think consoles are what's holding gaming back.
Or "Gears Of War filter" to be more precise. Fortunately, it was already abandoned in the end of that era (in 2011 almost every game had vibrant colors).
"Piss filter" wasn't the only filter that was used back then. Far Cry 2, for example, had a "muddy brown" filter while GTA 4 had more of a "gritty greyish" filter (funnily enough, people complained about it back then which might partially explain why the GTA 4 Ballad of Gay Tony DLC removes the greyish look for a more colourful look that fits the nightlife vibe of the DLC). And some games chose a different artstyle from the rest like the Uncharted series having vibrant colours or Mirror's Edge having a minimalist artstyle.
I bought the Dreamcast in 1999 and it’s the most fun I had on a console. Jet set radio, code Veronica, crazy taxi, sega bass fishing, beat time ever for me on console.
dont forget about sonic adventure, shenmui, sworrd of the berserker and the original soul calibur. truly one of the best consoles with a great library of games.
The fact we're getting that GTA III port right now while the reasons for my borrowed PS5 to not collect dust still don't exist is mad. Retro and indie scene is where the fun really is.
I'm seein' a rising trend on people asking for lower budget games from aaa studios, i really wish this becomes a reality, we don't need photo realistic and boring games, we need fun games, not depressing movies
That's cuz game devs no longer care about making a game. Their primary objective is either profit(safe games, microtransactions, etc) or just surviving in the industry(seeing all the studio shutdowns & layoffs) or inserting the "message" cuz their funder said so follow their orders otherwise they'll cut the funds (Sweet Baby Inc, Black Rock etc) Devs can no longer just chill back & make crazy fun games just cuz it's their passion to make a work of art. Games are no longer the primary objective other BS is taking precedence over it they have put things like making a good original game & listening to their customers at the very bottom of the list
Cost is the main issue, the high graphics open world/ big levels, deep story, long hours of gameplay messed the industry up. They made that a selling point us players then made it an expectation. These are no longer AAA games by the original standards these are AAAAA games. And a lot of them are flooping. Usually because the lack or fun. You know whos been killing it lately capcom. They do put a lot of working into graphics, but their stories are simple its nothing thats gonna take years to think of, worlds are simple theres no massive world building. Games arent too long.
It's all about leadership. I never liked Phil Spencer. He waived the white flag immediately, putting exclusives on PC. And then Gamepass made buying games and owning the console pointless. Not to mention Matt Booty and the awful first-party games Xbox has released. Then there's Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst. The lie about the generation leap, his disregard for backward compatibility, Herman lying, saying Zero Dawn would be the only game to go PC.. Now, Sony is slowly copying the mistakes of Xbox. Focusing more on PC, then there is surprise the lack of first-party games. 3rd party exclusives are what has kept me into Playstation. Nintendo are the only ones who have stayed true and even strayed away from censorship, which is another idiot move Sony has gotten into
@@-Blue-_ If you want to enjoy a Sony exclusive, buy a Playstation. If you want to enjoy an Xbox exclusive, buy an Xbox. If you want to enjoy a Nintendo exclusive, buy a Nintendo console. But, let's be honest. You just pirate everything anyways and run it through an emulator, so why exactly do you care?
Nobody ever brings up the gyroscope and it’s really frustrating. It’s been in PlayStation controllers since the ps3 and it’s literally the second best way to aim on console beside ir camera aiming from the Wii. Barely any games take advantage of it 🤦♂️. Gives you mouse like precision (can do flicks and track slowly), no aim assist needed, levels the playing field between Mouse and Controller. And nobody uses it.
i'm a pc gamer mostly, but consoles will never go away. From a purely business standpoint they're more profitable, that why studios in general prioritize consoles (eg Take2, EA, and to a lesser degree Ubi and ActiBlizz)
I used to have a decent pc but had to give it up in 2019 for college, I just now bought a house in April and am just finishing up my new gaming pc build. I’m so glad to be back to pc because console sucks, gamepass was the only somewhat decent thing offered from the console space that kept me entertained with a series s the past few years.
I thought the 8th gen was a joke. Xbox in particular but also PS4. They both had literally no games and felt more like PS3.5 and Xbox 360 pro, or something. PS4 got it together and got a handfull of great exclusives eventually. But at launch and during the first years both consoles got a lot of "remasters" of 2-4 year old games from last gen wich was the same game with slightly higer resolutions. And the annually Fifa, Cod, obligatory car/racing game etc. We used to dunk on Xbox back in the day for having no exclusives compared to the PS2. Well the original Xbox had more exclusives than PS4 and 5 combined. I think Witcher 3 And Assassins Creed Unity (despite the bugs) single handedly saved the entire generation because they were both impressive in their own ways and was something previous gen would have been incapable of without some hefty downgrades, which garnered a lot of hype and made people move on from 7th gen. The last few years of the 8th gen with their pro versions and some good and uniqe titles like God of War and Ghost of Tsushima should have been the launch of that generation. Despite probably not going to buy a 9th gen console myself I was excited for what the future would hold for gaming and consoles after the dissapointment which was 8th gen. I thought it possibly couldn't get any worse. But lo and behold, the same complacency from the previous gen got ramped up to 11. I was hoping for a rejuvenation of the 6th or 7th gen era energy. It seemed like that at first. But what we got in the end was the console version of upgrading your PC to run games on Ultra instead of High settings. All fine and dandy on its own. But not very exciting. Its still the same old with marginally prettier graphics. There is nothing inherently wrong with consoles and current gen hardware itself. It's a great value option vs PC for people who just want to sit down and game. But I think that the concept of consoles how they used to be are dead. They are more or less a budget PC with a proprietary OS now. And we will never see the leaps between consoles and the uniqueness and differences between various consoles like we used to. Just like there was a bunch of different PC competitors in the 70's and 80's its all just MAC and Windows now. I think Consoles are going the same way. It will become more and more about the brand and which ecosystem you are tied to. As both consoles since the 8th gen. But already back in the 7th gen used many of the same parts and components. beneath their shell they are almost the same. And the barely few exclusives comes more down to arbitrary restrictions than anything else, to a greater degree than before. We need to view things different. The era of "generations" is over. Just like there are no "generations" on PC, only more RAM or better CPU. The main problem however as you mentioned in the video isn't even just the empty promises. But the fact that these technical upgrades doesen't bring anything truly innovating or meaningful to the table anymore (for the most part). And that there are a lot of destructive forces within gaming and entertainment which stifles creativity at the moment. It's not just the greedy excecutives and shady business parctises. But oportunists which doesen't care about games as art or entertainment. But want to use it as their personal platform for whatever, before leaching onto the next "big thing" for attention.
I think GTA V and Red Dead Redemption 2 also helped save the 8th generation of consoles. GTA V on PS3 and Xbox 360 felt like it was being held back by the hardware of those consoles. The PS4 and Xbox One versions felt like the "definitive" console versions of GTA V. Red Dead Redemption 2 felt like it truly utilised the power of those consoles because of the insane level of detail that game had.
Consoles were made with custom hardware cuz PC hardware wasn't able to do what they needed them to do, now that general purpose graphic cards and CPUs caught up, what's the point of doing custom stuff? makes no sense. Technology has matured and became cheaper and that's a good thing
Thank you for being the only other person to say it. Xbone and PS4 had an insanely slow start. I didn't even get a PS4 until over halfway through its lifecycle because it had NO games.
I feel like gaming today we've reach the moment where games are looking so realistic, mostly AAA games that instead of focusing on graphics. Devs need tl focus on storytelling, gameplay and making the games engaging. It feels like graphics comes before storytelling/gameay nowadays. Co.pared to decades before
just buy a Nintendo console to play Nintendo games and a Steam deck to play most Sony games and almost all Microsoft games. Game consoles were so powerful in the 8 generation that the jump to the 9 generation was so small that I think the 10 gen console games can probably also be played on 8 gen consoles for the First or two years making the Switch 2 probably the perfect amount of power for every third party game for a long time
I've decided not to get a Steam Deck. I have a PC, PS5, and an Xbox Series X (which I bought to play Xbox games I missed out on in childhood). My Wii U is my Nintendo gaming, and I'm happy with what I have.
I only use my PS5 for First Descendant and watching DVDs even then I haven't touched it in weeks. I only game on my Switch and Steam Deck anymore. Both of which can be hooked up to the tv
The difference between the Nintendo and super Nintendo was like chalk and cheese. It was already a massive leap in the quality of the games and the graphics.
Okay, that half of the PlayStation people haven’t moved to the PlayStation 5 takes away logical conclusions. We had a global pandemic where people couldn’t get a PS5 with ease until early 2023. Also it took the PS4 7+ years to sell 117 million consoles and the expectation that 117 million people were supposed to switch over in less than 4 years is absolutely absurd. Another thing, the PS5 has not had a significant price cut like the PS4 did and it’s only about 2 and 1/2 million away from the PS4 if we are comparing timelines.
@@HerotsLament is the generation over? Cause last time I checked it wasn’t. They have close to 62 million PS5 owners which last time I checked is more than half of that 117 million. Btw bringing up online literally means nothing for the argument so not sure why you brought it up also where are you getting the info that only a fraction stick around to buy the next PlayStation? Can you name the fraction? Also more people are playing the PlayStation more monthly than ever. They have on average monthly active users count of between 114-120 million and you’re telling me out of the close to 62 million PS5 owners most of those users aren’t on PS5? 🤔
Sure but with how console prices aren't going down like they used to, coupled with how that PCs have become so accessible and with people seeing games coming over there, I would argue a good chunk of gamers won't go back to PS again. Maybe Nintendo but def not xbox or PS
@@sumomaster5585 there’s no market indicator that they wouldn’t go back to PlayStation. The stats just aren’t there. If you have a PlayStation 4 the next logical step is not to go to PC. Football which is selling gangbusters is only on consoles and primarily is played on PlayStation. The next gen versions of 2k are not on PC. Lastly, the biggest upcoming game for probably the next 10 years GTA 6 will not launch the same day as the consoles and will not be on last gen. I bring up these 3 games because they are the real moves and have no distinct advantage or availability on PC. The appeal of consoles is accessibility and ease of use. They’ve already sold 62 million without a GTA 6 or a Wolverine game, you think that won’t be enough when if you compare the lifetime of PS4 to PS5, the PS5 is about 2 million behind and that’s with a global pandemic and not a substantial price cut as of YET.
@@mefirstplease3676 This is just an opinion not based on numbers, so ofc it doesn't hold much weight but hear me out....I think a big reason PS is doing so well is 2 folds..1st the good will they garnered from PS4 whereby ppl thought PS = bangers + becuz xbox is doing so bad....so on the surface it seems PS is doing great, but just like with xbox, this 1st on PS later on PC release cycle renders PS basically useless outside of cheaper entry point + couch gaming. Also many PS and xbox gamers left to PC the trend is only going to accelerate going forward as many ppl realize how shitty an experience consoles really are with paid multiplayers..etc. You mentioned big release of GTA which is releasing on consoles 1st, but how much you wanna bet the next one will be on PC day one as PC becomes the biggest gaming platform? Console gaming isn'g growing as an audience is a sentiment xbox and PS leaders have expressed, but PC steadliy is
@@spooky-helix217 or go through the effort to pirate it*. That's on those who choose to pirate. Obsessing over tech is exactly why gaming is in this state. People are more worried about graphics than ACTUAL GAMES. PS2, PS3 had HUNDREDS of games EACH. Xbox 360 had dozens of exclusives and big hitters. Now, both companies barely have double digits COMBINED. Meanwhile, Nintendo drops at least a new exclusive every year.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of their pricing or how they refuse to localize many of their games in other languages (in my case, portuguese). But then again, that even works as an extra example that if you make good games, even with unaffordable prices and subpar online services, people will still buy it and you'll break sales records.
They are only super expensive if you buy them as files. The resale value of nintendo games is amazing and it's not uncommon to lose 10 or 15 at most on a game you bought brand new. It's like Apple products, expensive but then they retain value.
Looking at the bright side, It could even become a bonding experience, like a father and son having Resident Evil 4 as their favorite - one having played the original, and the other the remake.
As someone that's been a console gamer since birth, it's really begun to be more and more depressing just seeing how much gaming has grown to be such a shell of its former self. You used to have plenty of imaginitive ganes and plenty of fun experiences with all of these consoles and handhelds, all the while having plenty of reasons to go for a lot of these systems ranging from legit exclusives to having free online play for the majority of them. Now outside of Nintendo, all you get are titles from two of the three first party companies having exclusives that are mostly always realistic looking instead of having varied art styles, live service games up the wazoo just set to expire at any given time, some of not most third party companies being more focused on trying to monetize their games as much as possible by overselling too much DLC or having different types of battle passes, AND many of them just making owning a console pointless by making the one thing that matters to them their EXCLUSIVES, available on either another competitor's system or print them on PC. All that on top of locking online play behind increasingly expensive subscription requirements, making games lost media by closing down the only means of buying them, implementing BS from the real world into the one means of escaping from that BS, gaming itself becoming more and more expensive with more titles costing seventy dollars now AND making physical releases less plentiful overtime... It's just all too freakin' much man! So much if this is just too much to bear and every passing day that continues on it just makes me wish i had the know how to make a time machine or somwthing so I could go back in time to the days when NONE of this overpoliticalized, overly monetized BS was so freaking prevalent. And when I think of the phrase "You never know what you have until it's gone," it makes me wish it never did went away. I just wish it was possible to go back to those better days, man....😔
Gaming has become too popular and mainstream and that means there are more stupid people, and more stupid people means they're gonna keep afloat greedy companies like these (Microsoft, Sony, Ubisoft, EA, Valve, Blizzard, etc). I'm all for gaming becoming more obscure (not extremely obscure ofc, just more niche like it was in the early 2000s).
I don't think gaming was more niche in the early 2000s. I had a dreamcast for a bit when I was young, then an original xbox, and most of my friends in primary school had a console. Then when I started senior school in 2005, almost everyone did, and that got even more pronounced a few years later when everyone was playing online on 360s/ps3s. Ps2 came out in 2000 and that's the best selling console ever. I'd argue gaming hasn't been niche for decades - think of consoles like the NES, SNES and PS1, massively mainstream and popular. I think you're right about poor business practice though. It feels like a lot of creativity has been sucked out
@@jonnyc429 I'd argue gaming has been niche up until Xbox started and GTA V came out. That's when it truly became mainstream. Up until then Japanese consoles dominated the market
It's strange to think how poorly the 9th Generation has gone so far. It's been 4 years since the Xbox Series X and PS5 have launched and it feels like they've yet to pick up any momentum.
I've realized that entire game genres have basically disappeared lately. I miss how unique those PS2/Xbox game libraries were. Gaming shouldn't hyper focus on graphics, ray tracing & 4k resolutions. What matters more to me is stuff like physics effects, rag doll effects, using creative art styles, having different gameplay modes, satisfying gameplay mechanics, damage effects and interactive environments. Single player modes and offline modes. Current games focus way too much on graphical nitpicking that they don't realize they are making a terrible game. It's like they've forgotten players enjoy aspects that make games fun? Low poly graphics can work too, if they understand what they're doing. I seriously don't know why gaming had to fall into this rut that we are now in..? Also: {We have seen that even if companies delay games, it isn't improving the quality of games being released. Which is a sign there is a MUCH DEEPER issue going on with modern games. No excuses, devs used to make great games with much less and they would have given anything to have certain capabilities to utilize that are available today. It just takes actual passion, focus & talent to make great games. Sidenote: It's so crazy how many people are still supporting super mega rich companies putting out unacceptable products.. i don't understand certain people. I don't understand how certain companies can be messing up so badly. It's frustrating that other passionate people are not allowed to make a version of a type of game that we used to have but no longer get anymore.. Yet these huge companies get full control over if an unused game IP gets made & they do everything they can so no other versions of a game idea will ever come out. Even if there's a huge fan base around certain ideas and there's a ton of passionate devs out there dying to make a version of a certain video game idea.. that frustrates me beyond belief}
You forgot to mention that in the PS4/PS5 & XOne/ XSeries generation we have free2play games for the first time that you can play without a PS Plus or Xbox Gold account (COD WarZone & Fortnite). This has even led to some people just buying the console and then no more software. The PS4 & PS5 may have sold better than their Xbox counterparts, but that doesn't mean that more software is sold. There is also a quarter of gamers who buy a console just for FIFA Soccer or the other EA or 2K sports games. The game manufacturers have miscalculated and gambled badly when they make exclusive deals. Two examples: Street Fighter 4 came out on 3DS, PS3, PC & X360 in 2009. All versions of Street Fighter IV have sold over 9 million units across all platforms. For Street Fighter 5, Sony made an exclusive console deal with Capcom in 2016, so there were only 2 versions: PS4 & PC. As of December 2023, Street Fighter V has sold 7.4 million units. the same goes for Final Fantasy VII Remake/ Intergrade. PC, PS4 &PS5 only 7 million sold by September 2023, compare to the 180 million PS4 & PS5 users, not even counting PC users. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth failed to meet Square Enix's sales expectations, with no sales numbers shared to date. By May 2022, Final Fantasy XV (PC, PS4 & XOne) had sold ten million units worldwide across all versions, making it one of the best-selling Final Fantasy games of all time.
I remember when I bought a new PS3 two days after the PS4 was revealed (I didn't want to miss out the library), and a few months later, I concluded I don't need higher graphical fidelity... Same reason I was very hyped when Nintendo revealed the Switch. I think publishers don't want to make AAA games run at 4K resolution and 120fps (that's what the newest consoles can run at!!!) because they know most people won't care. Instead it's making the game looking as realistic as possible... While not doing that not only means achieving higher resolution and framerate, it also means saving resources to other meaningful departments. I'm just thankful indies exist. And probably the highest budget non-Nintendo game I loved playing recently was Psychonauts 2. Visuals as mesmerizing as excellent gameplay, and wonderful story and lore.
To be completely honest the whole 8th generation was a complete disaster starting from launch. While GPU power, RAM amount performance was great and at the same time CPU power was mediocre (AMD 8 core CPU clocked on 1.6-2 Ghz using piledriver architecture which's a complete disaster itself). Plus whole debacle with Watch Dogs with tuned graphics down on launch just because consoles weren't able to properly run tells a lot. 7th gen is in weird place. They had a very strong CPU power (Xbox with 3C/6T IBM processor, Sony with 2C/8SPU) with limited amount RAM (512Mb for both only Sony had 256/256 for both RAM and VRAM) and GPU that was before Nvidia 8xxx series that was already 2x performance for both consoles. And games were so pushing that it was very common to dip down to 10-15 FPS in some titles. What's happened is that around 2008-2012 companies found common formulas and slowly started to control developers and creative input. And change of generation that moved from computer nerds to a way more common geeks and even normies made a huge shift of how games and software in general are creating and instead of games that was created by a very passionate and technically minded team is slowly moved to manufactured and formulaic games that possess quality as polished, but bland experience. 9th gen is just a continuation of these trends and because how passionate gamers in general are they feel this anger and desperately try to blame them and calling all names instead of imply understanding that they f**ked up. And because of this they pander casual audience and kids as they're more agreeable and easier to scam, but once they grow up or simply lose interest it becoming a wasteland that devoured of hardcore audience that actually keep these games alive. And until a huge crisis or change of trends nothing will change unfortunately.
The only issue with your assessment here is that Family games are a problem. Fact is video games like any other hobby rely on younger generations to get into continuously. To start with overly complex "Mental Stack" games would turn young people off of games before they could develop a love for them. Every human generation deserves their NES moments whether it comes from Nintendo, Sony or XBOX. The problem with the modern era is even games that are supposed to be geared just for adults have been either watered down game play wise or radicalized story wise. Everything in the "Mature" sector of video games is made exclusively for journalist and those games are the only one that get consistent recognition like The Last of Us II.
@@Shinjiduo It's not that family games are the problem but how a lot of games are very watered down in general. I even remember how Wii was claimed as failure but in the end received the biggest selling as it catered to casual audience and nobody cared as it didn't hurt anyone. On 6th and 7th gen even casual games had a surprisingly deep mechanics and brilliantly did what they were supposed (PopCap catalog, The Sims series until 4 are great examples). And even popular franchises like Halo or, GTA to some extent had a lot of depth and there's a reason why even now they has popular fanbase. While we need these games, but there's a very unhealthy balance. With "Mature" it's not just how they're watered down, but a lot of them tries to be provocative while in reality being just an ideological propaganda. The Last of Us II is perfect example of this as it desperately tries to be akin to The Sopranos of how bad and irrational human nature but in the reality The Sopranos when it comes to writing would demolish The Last of Us II in every imaginable way and only expose just how bas latter is. Games like Deus Ex, System Shock 2, MGS2, Silent Hill 2 in early 00 late 00s-early 10s games like GTA 4, Mass Effect trilogy, Dragon Age Origins, Batman: Arkham show just how you can be mature without doing political pandering even if some of them can have their own agenda. About gameplay it's already explained as being watered down.
We stood until the end, but the gates were broken and normies flushed in. Gatekeeping is impossible, for evil always find a way and then commoners trample over everything. But at least we died standing.
The specs were dumb as hell then too, the PS4 was stronger than the Xbox One, but the Xbox One X was stronger than the PS4 Pro, and games made for one had to run on the base model which is odd to imagine.
I’m done buying new consoles. This generation has pushed me to downloading roms and emulating old games. Elden ring is the only game I’ve enjoyed this generation.
I could never understand the pc argument. I think it’s a personal issue if you can’t game on a pc after working on one. Not to mention you can always just plug the pc into a tv and play on a couch
The problem with PCs is that it’s not convenient. They not made for people who just want to play a game. PCs can do everything better than consoles. But they’re also PCs meant to do general purpose task. I understand stand it seems like a personal issue but If there’s an easy alternative to just simply play a game with just a simple setup why not just do that. Imagine wanting to play a game on the living room tv then I got to get my mouse a keyboard just to use it to access a game then and I may want to play with a controller so I gotta set that up. Bonus points If my operating system is on windows and windows needs to update upon boot up.
@@ericboadu8525 consoles need updates as well. And in most cases are mandatory while pc’s are not. Your argument is mute. Consoles aren’t plug and play anymore. If you can work a console, you can work a pc
@@ericboadu8525So I guess you haven't ever used steam big picture mode? It's a console UI for your PC and people like it enough. The whole thing can be navigated on a controller and all you need to do is set it to launch on startup for a console like experience. For me personally, I just have a wireless keyboard and mouse for specific situations where they might be needed and I stick to the regular windows 10 UI and don't have any issues. Once I'm in a game I just use a remote. The UI isn't as flashy as a console's, but it gets the job done. I click on a game and it launches the game. Also, about controllers, all you have to do is pair it once, and then it will auto connect when you turn it on.
@@Patrick-bn5rp I own the steamdeck (which I love btw) it’s great and I’m aware of big picture mode. But again that’s not CONVENIENT the fact I have to set it up in the first place or be aware that feature existence at all. I shouldn’t have knowledge trying to get into the hobby just to play a piece a software. With consoles it’s just plug and play. When someone has enough time to play something the last thing they want to do is set something up. It should be as simple as plug into wall, plug into tv, turn on console buy/select game then play. I haven’t even talked about configuring game settings for ur pc to play competently. Hell that’s even IF you know what those even settings are
The problem is that because of their fear to not meet investors goals new technologies aren't adopted. We should have had a vr only console or a 3d compatible console like the 3ds a long time ago.
It's inevetable in a world where steakholding is a thing - where everythings about making more money than the previous year, over and over again. And after you've hit the ceiling, you try to force your way through. Repetetive content, less content, higher prices, employee layoffs etc. it's all about breaking through the ceiling.
That’s not the issue. Wanting to make money is what drove the industry before as well. A dying culture and sick and twisted ideologues just have a hard time creating good art.
@raskolnikov6443 The people at the top thought that ideologs would make them more money. Now that the reality is becoming clear, they're starting to get axed
I'm playing smt 5 vengeance. I bought it on the switch originally, put about 10 hours in, and then picked it up for the Xbox on sale. I was impressed with the quality of performance improvements in the Xbox version, I played it for an hour, and gave it to my little cousin. Picked up my switch and started playing again, the convenience of playing on the switch Trump's any graphical improvements, especially for a game of this type. Sure it would be fun to sit on the couch and watch it and it's 4K 60fps glory, but I'm on the road all day, I have things to do, and pulling out the switch when I have a little bit of downtime takes a few seconds to start up. Trying to log into my xbox, through my laptop or any other Cloud device is cool, but it's nothing like flipping on my switch and playing.
The 7th Gen was the height of AAA quality and creativity. Remember when Sony actually had the balls to experiment? Remember Fat Princess and Tokyo Jungle? They've finally started doing a bit of that again with Sackboy and Astro Bot, but it honestly just isn't enough. Oh, and remember when Ubisoft and Rockstar made racers? The only things great about current gen is that PC are mainstream now and that the indie scene is better than it's ever been. Microsoft, Sony, and even Nintendo are stagnating. Nintendo and Microsoft are still putting out some great first party games, but the Switch is really terrible hardware and Xbox seems like they're about to collapse after mismanaging their game division for so long. Tango didn't _have_ to be sold off. And it's not like _all_ recent Xbox and Nintendo games have been great.
Folklore, Lair, Puppeteer, Rockstar Table Tennis, 3D Dot Game Heroes... That generation had lots of different games that would never be a major release today.
Most gamers I'd imagine would be completely satisfied with an OG XBox/PS2/GC type console, as far as fetures goes. A console like that running in 4K at 60fps and capable of ray tracing would be a monster of a unit. Add a good controller and a huge liberary of titles (as well as backwards compatibility) to the package and everyone would be satisfied! Shame it'll probably never happen...
We already have that, it's called PC. No fee for online play, massive library of titles with backwards compatibility going back to the 1990s (including console exclusives via emulation). 4k, ray tracing and unlocked FPS.. Edit: and you can use any controller you want. Switch, ps4, xbox, ps5.
Not only can you use any controller, you can actually use the full features of each controller. You can actually use the gyro of the Dualsense to aim in shooters using third party software like SteamInput, and the touchpad gets more use as well. And JoyShockMapper can edit the function of the Adaptive Triggers. Same thing with Switch Joycons. Plus using weirder controller like Steering Wheels and stuff.
@@riks081 a PC HAS a bunch of unnecessary features though (as far as gaming is concerned). I don't want my video game system to have a browser, apps or any of that stuff. A ps2 could play music CDs and DVDs on top of the PlayStation librar, while the XBox had online play if you connected the console via ethernet. That's enough features for a console, which in turn brings the costs down. As far as controllers goes, dual analog sticks, gyro-aim, 2 analog triggers, 2 shoulder buttons, 4 facebuttons, a D-pad, a 3,5mm headphone jack, USB-C charging and HD rumble are all the features you'll need for basically any game ever made
The next set of plannings are: force people to buy PS5 and XBOX by locking GTA VI to consoles, then just within 1 year or so announce PS6. This is what they did with GTA V. Many if not all of PS3 users had to buy GTA V again for PS4 or PC.
I don’t care how much time making a new console takes, the 9th console generation being so shit is why I want Sega to start making consoles again! I’d love to see a new console that’s as user friendly as 6th/7th generation consoles and makes gaming fun again!
I remember wanting a PS3 just for MGS4, I got it in 08 and I got DMC4, and Soul Calibur 4, eventually the bangers came in like MW2, Little Big Planet, RE5, SF4, Uncharted 2 and many others I can't remember but man it was such a gem of a system. I have my PS5 for 14 months now and my god its extremely underwhelming, especially the hard drive space. I already have a hard drive for my PS4 games that's maxed out but the PS5 is unbelievably uncompressed. I only have 4 F2P Games and 3 physical games. KOF15, SF6 and FF7Rebirth. With just 40GB left. If there's games for it I don't bother, I'll eventually get a Steam Deck because them and Nintendo have the better idea of storing these games into SD Cards which are dirt cheap and expansive. MK1 on Switch is under 40 GB, on PS5 its over 100 GB. Yeah looks worse but its the same experience now that they fixed the launch problems.
Well while the console do provide "simplicity" they also provide the "If the controls/performance/graphics suck in any way, that's how you have to play it the whole game" So, the simplicity often comes with a price. That's why I always rather spend few minutes fixing a bad PC port then accepting whatever developers decided is the best setting on console.
@@faresfares-ultrano plenty of bad console ports with better PC ports. It's not a hard and fast rule. It's not even about what the game was developed for - but rather the developer. Returnal is a great game developed originally as a PS5 exclusive .. but it's not a great port with low rez, and has its issues. By comparison, the later PC port is substantially better. It really depends. There are plenty of inferior PC ports of console games, but just as many in reverse, and plenty of console games focused that are better on PC. This is why I don't generalize this topic anymore.
I’m 34 years old and have noticed myself and a lot of my peers falling out of favor with the hobby, I’m always wondering if I’m just aging out of game playing or if the industry is just really lost and losing players
On top of all of what the console world does wrong I also think the main argument for using a console - its supposed simplicity - is rendered void by the fact that gaming on a PC is also a matter of plugging and playing these days. The days in which configuring a PC was a skill to master are pretty much over.
@@HerotsLament And exclusives, though mostly on Nintendo's part. I won't ever commit to PC gaming for that one reason.. oh, and being uncomfortable on a chair for long periods of time
@@MaubariWho is asking you to sit on a chair? You can literally use wireless controller, sit on a couch and enjoy by using external monitor such as smart TV. Same experience as console. Moreover, buying games for PC is cheaper.
@@HerotsLament its not 100% fair to compare the prices directly because you can use a PC for more than just gaming. And a GPU on the level of consoles (currently thats a mid range 20xx series card) is not that expensive, especially on the second hand market.
So you didn’t perceive a dramatic difference in graphics between the 8-bit and 16-bit generations? Then you’re probably too young to have actually experienced it. Most of us walked unexpectedly into a friend’s game room with a newly acquired SNES in 1991/92 and literally started screaming WHAT THE HEL IS THAT?!! When they saw Super Mario World for the first time. It was a life-changing experience.
Yeah, I'm a PS4 who hasn't upgraded. I don't really play consoles too much. I do want to play FF7 Rebirth though. So eventually I will. I'm just surprised that we're still 4 years out and the price is $500.
PS5 needs full PS1 and ps2 backwards compatibility disc support with CECHE-01 and emulation from PCSX2 features with that idea, and more exclusives. Xbox Series X/S needs more exclusives as well and have full backwards compatibility with OG Xbox and Xbox 360 disc support. Have the next gen system release in 2029-2030.
Fair assessment that nails all the issues without the sensationalism. Especially how the face of the industry has changed a great deal, but gamers really haven't. There's a lot of people in the industry who want to force gamers to change rather than adapting to market demand. Nintendo meanwhile does so well because they still embrace that old school philosophy of game design while keeping things innovative. As for hardware constraints being a positive, I've maintained for a while now that the Series S is this generation's best (non-Nintendo) console. It's $300 and offers a perfectly acceptable experience. There's no shortage of devs though who complain about it though. While I can appreciate the challenge of getting games to run on limited hardware, I think a lot of devs today just don't know how to optimize. Either relying on brute force or ML upscaling to compensate. Even on PC, you'll see a lot of these AAA games chugging on hardware that should be able to run them no problem. If Saber Interactive can get Witcher 3 running decently on the Switch, you have no excuse.
The PS4 and PS3 controllers also had gyros and accelerometers. Cyberpunk did technically launch on PS4 and xbone but that was not pretty and they had to reduce things like crowd density. Phantom liberty and later cyberpunk 2077 never arrived to last gen.
Cyberpunk can't run on base ps4 and xbox one, that was very obvious even before release but it's not like a company ,which collaborates with sweet baby and is EGS compliant, isn't at fault. The xbox one x and ps4 pro versions worked fine even though the original devs were so horribly crunched
@@MGrey-qb5xz True. The fact the PS4(base) is a GTX 750 equivalent, and yet the CPU is STILL the bottleneck on it was all they needed to know it was too ambitious for them. Unfortunately, advertising a game for PS4 only for it to not work on PS4 is something only Sony themselves could do (and did with the PS2 Slim since many need the HDD that the Slim can't use) and get away with, so they had to put out something to fit that requirement. It should've been this gen exclusive, it'd finally give us a reason to need a next gen system lmao.
@@BlueEyedVibeChecker i'm still so pissy about the slim model just being a downgrade compared to my phat console which was perfect, then i had to go and break it and live with stupid slim with it constantly scratching my discs
@@MGrey-qb5xz GTA online ran far worse on PS4 before support for it was dropped. Cyberpunk 2077 was improved on PS4/xbone, ofc it remained limited to 30fps at best but that was to be expected.
Amazing consoles (after 3 generation with slow ROM) with few game that can push all that power. We really need more AA videogames like armor core 6, astro boy and some nintendo games.
How the previous generation of consoles got more experimental games and more titles is beyond me. We should have more titles this gen with studios taking risks smh
Bro I think I love about pc is able to mod and play games in languages that are region locked (modern games mostly region lock language because of certain contracts)
I don’t think it’s empty promises, I believe it’s a “we dont do anything about it”. Take DLC, Loot Boxes, Star Wars, Marvel as a few examples. People always complain of the terrible quality and state Star Wars and Marvel are in, yet they still go out there and watch the movies and buy the games. Loot Boxes, everyone complains about them, there have been laws in certain countries and states about them, and the pay to win aspect, yet people still buy them and complain. Watch a new Madden or COD comes out with Loot Boxes and they’ll make over a million on the first week from them. The gaming and console companies know this and use it not against us but, they know we won’t actually do anything about it. If you took all the major release in gaming the past 4 years; Tekken, Call of Duty, Mortal Kombat, Spider man, Avengers, Mario, God of War, those games put out terrible during the first few weeks. We all know they are going to be terrible, buggy, over priced, half ass, yet we still buy them and complain about it.
People and accountability go together like milk and a Soda Stream, they hate companies "casual approach" yet a DVD player(PS2) sold 10 to 1 to its SOLE launch title for that reason(DVD playback). They want fun games that "try something different" but whenever something different comes around, critics pan it, "fans" ignore it. (seriously, name one arcade-style title people talk about from the last five years that wasn't solely from people in that niche ACTUALLY having fun with it. You probably can't, even with Google) Etc. Gamers did it to themselves and deserve the future we have.
Logically, I know that it's technically still the old Sony Vs. Microsoft Vs. Nintendo deal from gens 6 through 8 and then the Steam Deck isn't really in the same ball-park as then, but it just feels like Nintendo and Valve are tag-teaming Sony and Microsoft and winning
@@criticalpixelsmy opinion is that if it came out in pc and ps5 it should still be considered an exclusive since the pc market is much smaller compared to the console market.
back in the day, any advances were actually really significant. once we hit 3d it was just incremental graphics upgrades with only real significant changes being any special "gimmicks" a given machine might have. like adding 4 players, online gaming, touch screen, motion controls, vr
I actually think gaming has advanced a lot. There just isn't a ton of games because it takes too long. I assume this generation will last into next gen with cross gen. This is the first gen where I feel like I shouldn't have to upgrade next gen and just hold onto my series x until I can't play new games. Even last gen with the ps4, I didn't feel like things could get much better. But honestly, load times, map sizes, and graphics have gone up quite a bit. To me, I feel like halo infinite and need for speed unbound are the perfect examples of next gen games. At first they seem like normal games as they were before. But halo infinite is massive with adding extra mobility with the grapple hook. Exploring locations instead of just being funneled from one location to the next. Need for speed unbound extra graphics around your vehicle and dragging behind you. first time having npcs in the map. Other drivers flash their lights at you if they saw a cop. I think probably the ps5 pro will advertise better next gen games. They just haven't gotten to it yet. Also the next xbox sounds like it's just around the corner. It seems weird because really this gen is just starting. We will most likely see gens last longer and go into other gens. Seems bad for next gen. But over all good for consumers that can't or don't want to upgrade yet.
The issue is that customers and video game companies need to accept that there is nothing new that a video game system can do; This isn't a bad issue, let me explain Video games today need to be more about extravagant exploration, massive open worlds, and good stories; It's impossible to make a similar transition such as Sega Genesis to PlayStation One This is why I play games on a gaming laptop, because I get everything that's realistically possible with the modern world and that is: Ultra 4K graphics, 60 frames per second, very slow loading times, mods just in case I want extra entertainment, and I get to enjoy games from PlayStation and Xbox as well as almost every game that's been made
One of the things I love about PC Gaming is that the platform isn’t locked down to just one storefront. Developers and Publishers can create their own storefront and not have to censor their game’s content to appease Steam’s employees whenever that Valve employee is having a very bad day
Ironically, Steam released IMO one of the greatest consoles we had in a while that is the Steam Deck, in this generation that was supposed to be dominated by the PS5 and XBox. For this reason, it has become my favourite generation because the lack of variety on console games introduced me to PC games.
Im one of those gamers who's yet to upgrade to PS5. Right now, Wukong and Dragon's Dogma 2 are the only next gen exclusives I want to really play but I can wait. I mostly buy discount games anyway. Aside from that, I've got a backlog of about 20ish games. I know that's nothing compared to other backlogs but its a lot for me considering they're mostly big games like Fallout 4, Witcher 3, Horizon Zero Dawn, AC Odyssey, Valhalla, etc. I got over FOMO years ago so I'm good with it.
7th gen was peak gaming. We'll never see anything like it ever again. Games were made better when they were sold with the intention of getting one big return on launch day. Now that we have gamepass and playstation plus, games are made for what I like to call "infinite revenue". They purposely design games as a service where they still get money years after it's initial release. Completely skimping on the quality and fun aspect. Before games were a service, they genuinely had to make the game GOOD. Fun, engaging, something that made people say "Yeah I'm waiting till 12am to get it". Nowadays that's hardly ever the case. Greed has officially ruined the industry. It's not coming back. The big wigs and executives with their million dollar homes, 3 cars, and 2 boats decided that they don't get enough money, so they want more and this is how they do it.
The gaming industry has grown too much in recent years. To the point where creativity has taken a hit because it's too risky. We're too focused on profitability.
This already happened 20-10 years ago. In recent years the gaming industry is shrinking. If you remove the indies, there is nothing much left.
@@nifftbatuff67610 maybe, 20? Hell no
@@egymagnet hell yes. The increased growth started with the xbox shits and peaked during the PS3/360. That was also the worst period for gaming. Now we have at least the indies, but if you remove the indies, there isn't much left.
That’s not even half the problem. They put zero effort into what they do make and focus on monetization of in game cosmetics and currency over actual gameplay and game content.
IKR. Too big to fail, my ass!
This generation has been terrible the fact Sony has the balls to release a PS5 Pro without supporting a PS5 at all is astonishing
Well, they gonna learn when it flops.
The rumors about a coming PS6 is absolutely shambolic. That will be the biggest flop ever seen seen if they go through with it
Probably because the Ps5 Pro was supposed to be the original, but they wanted early sales for those sweet, sweet bar graphs to go up for their investors.
yes.. give us your money peon is the general attitude nowadays.
And still making releasing ps5 games that are supposed to be exclusive to ps4 thus downgrading the games and not being true next gen games. God Of War Ragarok should have been a bigger deal than it was graphically but because it was released on ps4 it was held back big time from potentially being revolutionary.
Nintendo CEO definitely commented a while back that the path that Microsoft and Sony focusing on High Fidelity as well as higher frame rates is not a sustainable model for developing video games, and it looks like this could be actually coming true with this generation of consoles, which will probably cost half a billion dollars to create new games.
Apparently Spider-Man 2 had a total budget of $315 million. And that's a 15 hour single player game. GTA VI is especulated to be in $2 billion range. Just insane.
When a game of that type of budget gets put out and it fails to sell well, it could actually mean the end of that studio, even if the game was actually good. That’s gotta feel like walking on a tightrope if you’re just a typical developer just trying to make ends meet.
Not that I know anything about game development but with current graphical master pieces like Horizon, we kinda got to where we need....now we just need the machines to put out that at 4k/60FPS and all of a sudden devs have it a lot of free time to focus on other things, plus with toolkits advancing and stuff, these things will eventually become the standard! What I am saying is, the focus on performance + fidelity isn't the issue, it's that our hardware isn't capable enough, so either you need really great engineers who cost a lot or beefy hardware which is yet to be born (ps6? maybe).
@@criticalpixels2 billion dollars and that is why they wait until there are more than 100 million modern consoles sold in the planet...
They can barely give us higher framerates
I'd call this console generation the "corporate generation", where the gaming industry as a whole has been tainted by the corporate mindset. Pretty much the majority of games, that aren't made by indie developers, have had every decision around them based off the demands of shareholders screaming "LINE GO UP!!!". The console environment feels like purgatory, as Nintendo is the only one in that hemisphere actually pumping out shit that's worth a damn, meanwhile Sony and Microsoft are trying to figure out more ways to convince people to fork over 600 for their newest consoles as well as another at least $60 for online multiplayer (but wait, if u spend $60 dollars we'll let you play this entire catalog of games, most of which are either horrible and not worth your time or simply here on borrowed time). Games that don't come out of the factory halfway finished and full of microtransactions are the biggest breath of fresh air nowadays. Game conferences, which used to be awesome can now be summed up to sitting in front of a livestream with a bingo card in your hands ready to cross out the boxes for when they use buzzwords like, "cutting edge", "innovation", "like never before", "diversity", "inclusiveness", "industry leading figures", revealing shitloads of DLC for already existing games, revealing new games that actually look cool with 30 second teasers, showing actual trailers for games that look terrible. Rockstar literally went from being the company that would pump out games of all kinds to releasing a new game once in a centennial period and Blizzard is full of creeps and sexual predators. We literally had to beg Valve to start making games again
The jump from the NES to SNES was huge! It was literally double the capability. It felt stunning and amazing at the same time when it happened.
Now I know it! When I first saw one at my friends' houses, I was like 3 or 4 years old, so everything was a bit confusing. And by that time, the PS1 was around the corner, which made everything else seem outdated.
@@criticalpixels I think what may cause confusion is a game like Super Mario Bros. 3 which almost had no business looking that good on NES.
To be honest playing the series x feels like I’m playing a Xbox one Same with ps5 I don’t feel or see the changes 🤷🏽🤷🏽
Also, the jump from NES controller to SNES controller is huge, the extra buttons added a lot a function and utility, and the SNES controller also is a blueprint to the modern controllers.
It was ok but the real mind blower was jumping to 3d. Going from SMWorld to Mario 64 and Sonic Adventure was incredible. Watching Sonic run up and down a ring with 3d tracking was the coolest game demo I have ever seen.
The fact that most of the best games to come out this generation have been indie games says it all. The unbridled creativity that has been drained out of the biggest games is still fresh in indies and you can feel how devs have put their whole souls into their work.
This was true for about one month a decade ago. Now 99.9% of indie games are hot garbage. Mobile games were the last market in which any experimentation was happening until Genshin Impact and Unity killed that too. If there is any creativity left there isn't much and it is found in mods.
U gonna just ignore nintendo?
@FoxMcCloud-64 Nintendo is the one exception right now. And in many ways they always have been. But this video is more about Sony and Microsoft's consoles and you can't play Nintendo's games there. So given what's on offer... yeah the PS5 and Xbox Series X might as well be indie machines and Elden Ring.
What indie games would you recommend?
@whosaidthat84 A whole bunch to be honest:
Hollow Knight
Undertale
CrossCode
Freedom Planet 1 + 2
Pizza Tower
Celeste
A Hat in Time
Rivals of Aether
Shovel Knight
Penny's Big Breakaway
Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair
It’s all Nintendo’s fault for making so many amazing games on 10 year old tablet hardware. How are Microsoft and Sony supposed to compete with that?
That's So Funny to me lmfao
From my experience, Nintendo games tend to appeal to a different audience to Sony and Microsoft games
I mean that’s not really true at all. Most of the Switch Library is Xbox 360 games. Lol 10 years after they came out.
@@Faceplay2 What is bro yapping about?
@@PaperMarioParty08 facts
You mentioned that the people still on last gen are on last gen because they don't *feel* like upgrading, but that just isn't the case. What it is, is that this console gen broke a rule. You're supposed to halve the price of your console midway through the gen. Console manufacturers betrayed their budget customer base by not slashing the prices of their hardware.
Great point. No real price drops severly limits longterm adoption. There should be a $299 PS5 right now.
Also, Sony actually INCREASED the price of their console after a couple of years, despite a redesign of the internals to cut costs, as well as the price of manufacturing coming down dramatically. And they also increased the cost of games and subscriptions!
@@Ben-Roguebecause they don't have to. Sony knows that they are now the undisputed KING of gaming period. So now they're like apple: they can name their price on anything and as long as their main target audience (people with money) buy their stuff, they couldn't care any less for the average commoner now. It's tough but that's the reality of the situation. They've gotten too big.
@@HerotsLament How exactly are they the king? The might be somewhat better than xbox, but both sides shat the bed. Full torso ahead in the race? Yes. But king? Please. You can't be king with a console seller mediocre dlc-equels.
@@HerotsLament king? Bruh Nintendo exists and actually outsells the PS5 and it's games. Nintendo is at least the king if games. They have the most exclusives by far when it comes to any console. Nothing comes close to Nintendo when it comes to exclusives
As a PC gamer: if you take away all the indie games that arent avaible on console, it also looks VERY dark at the moment. The gaming industry has almost completely abandoned creativity and innovation, aswell as not delivering anything for a huge chunk of genres. So many studios that still made great games have been closed down due to being bought out by bigger companies that want to kill their competition.
Yeah, without Indie games all I'd have fore recent games would be Armored Core VI and Ace Combat 7. Maybe Minecraft, since I play modded 1.18. As an FPS player, these last few years have been great, almost entirely due to indie games.
Speak yourself because for me, Nintendo is the only one that still being creative and innovative.
@@Adamtendo_player_1 Yeah, I see pretty much Nintendo and various Indie devs like Doekuramori doing that.
@@Adamtendo_player_1Nintendo games innovative? You jest.
You would say that as you don't see all the creative stuff on the indie scene.
I can't imagine growing up with this generation of consoles. Practically no exclusives after 4 years, boring hardware with a focus on the worst gimmick in decades, consistently awful ports & optimization. And an embarrassing state of AAA games. It's never been less exciting.
If you aren't close minded, then you have to admit that you can at least see why fortnite is so beloved by the younger generations. Tbh I think people growing up now have a hell of a good time. If I only imagine to play with 3 friends fortnite, Minecraft or some Roblox games I know that they will have fond memories from this. For me this kind of social games were playing final fantasy 8, pokemon red and blue or Mario party with my friends and brother. But I personally think today it's way better in general.
@@nindieboy4194 Fortnite is pretty brainless. The only thing that I personally liked from Fortnite was the guitar hero ripoff and I'd rather just play the real guitar hero if they still sold the instruments
You're just old man. When we were kids we were playing shitty games for hours (shitty in the sense that if we were in our 30s we would call them shitty) like those broken fighting games from PS1, the lame ass racing games from back then or ultra limited FPS with terrible framerate and graphics.
If you ask a kid if he's having fun playing games now, he'd tell you that he loves games and why they are so awesome, and I'm sure that if we were 10 years old now we would be having a blast too.
The older you grow the more bitter you become.
I realized this and was able to start enjoying games again at 31 years old. Just enjoy what you play and you'll see that games are as fun as always.
The state of triple A gaming is indeed horrible but how is not having any exclusives a bad thing? I thought restricting games on just one console limited their sales and could end up bankrupting the studio and also why shouldnt all gamers experience a game?
@kosmas173 bc the fanboys I guess dont want others to experience these exclusives bc they want their soulless poor company😢😢 to get more money😢😢😢😢😢(Sony and microsoft)fanboys
Generation of empty promises sums it up perfectly
This is literally the worse generation for gaming so far. Nothing is happening. Boycott this shit, makegamingreatagain
One word form this gamer: Disenchantment.
Seems like this whole generation is feeling similar to what Wii U owners felt for the entirety of its life. Thank you for sharing in our pain. Just know that it can get better. It just might not happen this generation.
It still baffles me how several years ago people were talking about how will Nintendo survive the Xbox series x and PS5, and I was like "same way they always do" only I had no idea how bad it would be, the underpowered tablet is still beating their ass
TBF, their tablet had a unique selling point of portability, but if steam machines or MS manages to make portable xbox a thing, then suddenly things will shift drastically for Nintendo
@@sumomaster5585 I doubt that, the PS Vita didn't tank the 3ds, the steam deck hasn't slowed down the switch, don't even get me started that this generation has had a software problem.
@@sumomaster5585 You're making the same mistake as Xbox, focusing on the wrong thing. The Switch isn't selling like hot cakes because it's portable, that's just a gimmick. It's selling because they're MAKING GAMES. Games that EVERYONE can love and enjoy. The "Switch Effect" is very real, practically any switch release is guaranteed to sell millions of copies. Even from franchises that hav never sold even 1 million before. If Xbox makes a portable console, so what? What are people going to play on it? They don't make any new game sand they can't even get their OLD games to work via backwards compatibility, they gave up on that. so, again, what are they going to play? And Sony tried portable multiple times and failed. They're even trying it again with the smartphone bs. Which is also going to fail because you need a PS5 for it to even work.
@@jase276 Buddy I dunno what you talking about, CoD, WoW, Halo, gears of wars, Forza, ...etc, need I go on? last I checked they own ABK, Bethesda and they are the largest publishers right now and given that 99.99% of all games are on xbox, clearly it's you who's confused cuz what you mean to say is xbox doesn't have exclusives....which are supposed to be the cherry on top not the cake.....and that brings us to your mentality...you only want to play exclusives and measure platforms based on that..rather than treating it as the tool to access all the great games published by different publishers...I want all games everywhere cuz I gurantee you, no 1 would buy a Switch if they could play their games elsewhere...i like the form factor, but it's a shitty hardware and software combo.
@@sumomaster5585CoD doesn’t sell consoles like it used to. Halo as a brand is diminishing and there’s only 1 Halo game on the system that you can play on XB1. Gears, also just 1 game on the system (not even out yet) .We got the whole first trilogy and a spinoff all on just the 360. Now it’s one game per generation. And it’s all to make sure the game has the craziest graphics even tho it still can’t run smoothly. It’s a regression.
One thing that really annoys me is how much they talk about Graphical Fidelity and FPS when most of the time you have to choose between one or the other. Always 4K at 30 FPS or 1080p at 60 FPS, Give me 4K at 60 FPS!
Crazy how these "next gen" consoles can't do what PCs could 10 years ago,now i understand why some people think consoles are what's holding gaming back.
Thats why i saved money and built my own PC
Who cares about graphics and fps. Who cares about next gen. If you remove the indies, there is nothing left to play.
@@nifftbatuff676 Resolution and FrameRate is important.
@@Terminal_Apotos not when everithing else is bad.
When you make a video for the 7th generation, don’t forget to mention the “piss filter”.
Calm down, that's an exaggeration
Or "Gears Of War filter" to be more precise. Fortunately, it was already abandoned in the end of that era (in 2011 almost every game had vibrant colors).
@@nikitamedvedev4696 Gears of War itself doesn't use that filter, at least not the piss filter. It does have bloom though.
Not sure if it's an unpopular opinion or just nostalgia, but I think the piss filter actually aged well in some games. 😅
"Piss filter" wasn't the only filter that was used back then. Far Cry 2, for example, had a "muddy brown" filter while GTA 4 had more of a "gritty greyish" filter (funnily enough, people complained about it back then which might partially explain why the GTA 4 Ballad of Gay Tony DLC removes the greyish look for a more colourful look that fits the nightlife vibe of the DLC). And some games chose a different artstyle from the rest like the Uncharted series having vibrant colours or Mirror's Edge having a minimalist artstyle.
I bought the Dreamcast in 1999 and it’s the most fun I had on a console. Jet set radio, code Veronica, crazy taxi, sega bass fishing, beat time ever for me on console.
dont forget about sonic adventure, shenmui, sworrd of the berserker and the original soul calibur. truly one of the best consoles with a great library of games.
The fact we're getting that GTA III port right now while the reasons for my borrowed PS5 to not collect dust still don't exist is mad.
Retro and indie scene is where the fun really is.
Dreamcast, Gamecube, PS2. The holy trinity for me. The Xbox 360 was like a mint after a big meal. An after dinner mint.
I'm seein' a rising trend on people asking for lower budget games from aaa studios, i really wish this becomes a reality,
we don't need photo realistic and boring games, we need fun games, not depressing movies
That's cuz game devs no longer care about making a game. Their primary objective is either profit(safe games, microtransactions, etc) or just surviving in the industry(seeing all the studio shutdowns & layoffs) or inserting the "message" cuz their funder said so follow their orders otherwise they'll cut the funds (Sweet Baby Inc, Black Rock etc)
Devs can no longer just chill back & make crazy fun games just cuz it's their passion to make a work of art. Games are no longer the primary objective other BS is taking precedence over it they have put things like making a good original game & listening to their customers at the very bottom of the list
just play indie and AA titles like i do lo
gaming will be saved by evangelion video game
Cost is the main issue, the high graphics open world/ big levels, deep story, long hours of gameplay messed the industry up.
They made that a selling point us players then made it an expectation. These are no longer AAA games by the original standards these are AAAAA games. And a lot of them are flooping.
Usually because the lack or fun.
You know whos been killing it lately capcom. They do put a lot of working into graphics, but their stories are simple its nothing thats gonna take years to think of, worlds are simple theres no massive world building.
Games arent too long.
*It's the publishers and dev company heads.*
@@utopic1312 i currently play ps3/360 era games like portal 2, arkham city, new vegas and original dead space, does that count?
It's all about leadership. I never liked Phil Spencer. He waived the white flag immediately, putting exclusives on PC. And then Gamepass made buying games and owning the console pointless.
Not to mention Matt Booty and the awful first-party games Xbox has released. Then there's Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst. The lie about the generation leap, his disregard for backward compatibility, Herman lying, saying Zero Dawn would be the only game to go PC..
Now, Sony is slowly copying the mistakes of Xbox. Focusing more on PC, then there is surprise the lack of first-party games. 3rd party exclusives are what has kept me into Playstation.
Nintendo are the only ones who have stayed true and even strayed away from censorship, which is another idiot move Sony has gotten into
Found a Sony pony who doesn't want PC players to enjoy Sony first party games
@@-Blue-_ If you want to enjoy a Sony exclusive, buy a Playstation. If you want to enjoy an Xbox exclusive, buy an Xbox. If you want to enjoy a Nintendo exclusive, buy a Nintendo console. But, let's be honest. You just pirate everything anyways and run it through an emulator, so why exactly do you care?
@@jase276 I have a PS5 Slim kiddo
Nobody ever brings up the gyroscope and it’s really frustrating. It’s been in PlayStation controllers since the ps3 and it’s literally the second best way to aim on console beside ir camera aiming from the Wii. Barely any games take advantage of it 🤦♂️.
Gives you mouse like precision (can do flicks and track slowly), no aim assist needed, levels the playing field between Mouse and Controller. And nobody uses it.
Yes, I always use it when available (like in Horizon Games and Days Gone), but very few games actually implement it.
i'm a pc gamer mostly, but consoles will never go away. From a purely business standpoint they're more profitable, that why studios in general prioritize consoles (eg Take2, EA, and to a lesser degree Ubi and ActiBlizz)
It's also the easiest opening way. You won't get new players as much without them
I don't know how many times I said this but I'm ever grateful to switch to a gaming PC at the start of 8th gen.
I used to have a decent pc but had to give it up in 2019 for college, I just now bought a house in April and am just finishing up my new gaming pc build. I’m so glad to be back to pc because console sucks, gamepass was the only somewhat decent thing offered from the console space that kept me entertained with a series s the past few years.
Oh yeah. I love it. 8th Gen is the last console gen I stayed up on. PC is wonderful especially with GOG and emulation
I haven't fully switched, but I'm playing more and more on PC lately. The backlog and the force of habit still hold me back.
@@criticalpixelscheck out PCgamingwiki for fixes on all old and new PC games
I went back to ps2 and it was a neat investment
I thought the 8th gen was a joke. Xbox in particular but also PS4. They both had literally no games and felt more like PS3.5 and Xbox 360 pro, or something. PS4 got it together and got a handfull of great exclusives eventually. But at launch and during the first years both consoles got a lot of "remasters" of 2-4 year old games from last gen wich was the same game with slightly higer resolutions. And the annually Fifa, Cod, obligatory car/racing game etc.
We used to dunk on Xbox back in the day for having no exclusives compared to the PS2. Well the original Xbox had more exclusives than PS4 and 5 combined.
I think Witcher 3 And Assassins Creed Unity (despite the bugs) single handedly saved the entire generation because they were both impressive in their own ways and was something previous gen would have been incapable of without some hefty downgrades, which garnered a lot of hype and made people move on from 7th gen.
The last few years of the 8th gen with their pro versions and some good and uniqe titles like God of War and Ghost of Tsushima should have been the launch of that generation.
Despite probably not going to buy a 9th gen console myself I was excited for what the future would hold for gaming and consoles after the dissapointment which was 8th gen. I thought it possibly couldn't get any worse. But lo and behold, the same complacency from the previous gen got ramped up to 11.
I was hoping for a rejuvenation of the 6th or 7th gen era energy. It seemed like that at first. But what we got in the end was the console version of upgrading your PC to run games on Ultra instead of High settings. All fine and dandy on its own. But not very exciting. Its still the same old with marginally prettier graphics.
There is nothing inherently wrong with consoles and current gen hardware itself. It's a great value option vs PC for people who just want to sit down and game. But I think that the concept of consoles how they used to be are dead. They are more or less a budget PC with a proprietary OS now. And we will never see the leaps between consoles and the uniqueness and differences between various consoles like we used to.
Just like there was a bunch of different PC competitors in the 70's and 80's its all just MAC and Windows now. I think Consoles are going the same way. It will become more and more about the brand and which ecosystem you are tied to. As both consoles since the 8th gen. But already back in the 7th gen used many of the same parts and components. beneath their shell they are almost the same. And the barely few exclusives comes more down to arbitrary restrictions than anything else, to a greater degree than before. We need to view things different. The era of "generations" is over. Just like there are no "generations" on PC, only more RAM or better CPU.
The main problem however as you mentioned in the video isn't even just the empty promises. But the fact that these technical upgrades doesen't bring anything truly innovating or meaningful to the table anymore (for the most part). And that there are a lot of destructive forces within gaming and entertainment which stifles creativity at the moment. It's not just the greedy excecutives and shady business parctises. But oportunists which doesen't care about games as art or entertainment. But want to use it as their personal platform for whatever, before leaching onto the next "big thing" for attention.
Bro, you wrote a novel.
I think GTA V and Red Dead Redemption 2 also helped save the 8th generation of consoles. GTA V on PS3 and Xbox 360 felt like it was being held back by the hardware of those consoles. The PS4 and Xbox One versions felt like the "definitive" console versions of GTA V. Red Dead Redemption 2 felt like it truly utilised the power of those consoles because of the insane level of detail that game had.
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Consoles were made with custom hardware cuz PC hardware wasn't able to do what they needed them to do, now that general purpose graphic cards and CPUs caught up, what's the point of doing custom stuff? makes no sense. Technology has matured and became cheaper and that's a good thing
Thank you for being the only other person to say it. Xbone and PS4 had an insanely slow start. I didn't even get a PS4 until over halfway through its lifecycle because it had NO games.
All the switch games you showed was Wii U ports.. lol
I miss the golden era of consoles (PS2 and the others)
Sooo many great and innovative games.
Hits even harder after the PS5 Pro was announced and essentially sells itself on doing the initial broken promises.
God , spiderman 2 characters look so ugly and "safe"
A comment I once read said the characters talked like coworkers, which I can't unhear anymore
@@The_Patbey yeah, employees that talk like their employer is listening
I feel like gaming today we've reach the moment where games are looking so realistic, mostly AAA games that instead of focusing on graphics. Devs need tl focus on storytelling, gameplay and making the games engaging.
It feels like graphics comes before storytelling/gameay nowadays. Co.pared to decades before
Yea, graphics have plateaud in recent years so now we need to focus on everything else. Particularly the writing and story.
just buy a Nintendo console to play Nintendo games and a Steam deck to play most Sony games and almost all Microsoft games. Game consoles were so powerful in the 8 generation that the jump to the 9 generation was so small that I think the 10 gen console games can probably also be played on 8 gen consoles for the First or two years making the Switch 2 probably the perfect amount of power for every third party game for a long time
I've decided not to get a Steam Deck. I have a PC, PS5, and an Xbox Series X (which I bought to play Xbox games I missed out on in childhood). My Wii U is my Nintendo gaming, and I'm happy with what I have.
@@dapperfan44 I mean more for people who are planning to buy a gaming console but can't decide which one
I only use my PS5 for First Descendant and watching DVDs even then I haven't touched it in weeks. I only game on my Switch and Steam Deck anymore. Both of which can be hooked up to the tv
The difference between the Nintendo and super Nintendo was like chalk and cheese. It was already a massive leap in the quality of the games and the graphics.
Okay, that half of the PlayStation people haven’t moved to the PlayStation 5 takes away logical conclusions. We had a global pandemic where people couldn’t get a PS5 with ease until early 2023. Also it took the PS4 7+ years to sell 117 million consoles and the expectation that 117 million people were supposed to switch over in less than 4 years is absolutely absurd. Another thing, the PS5 has not had a significant price cut like the PS4 did and it’s only about 2 and 1/2 million away from the PS4 if we are comparing timelines.
117 consoles does not mean 117 million people. And only a fraction of them even play online or stick around to buy the next Playstation.
@@HerotsLament is the generation over? Cause last time I checked it wasn’t. They have close to 62 million PS5 owners which last time I checked is more than half of that 117 million. Btw bringing up online literally means nothing for the argument so not sure why you brought it up also where are you getting the info that only a fraction stick around to buy the next PlayStation? Can you name the fraction? Also more people are playing the PlayStation more monthly than ever. They have on average monthly active users count of between 114-120 million and you’re telling me out of the close to 62 million PS5 owners most of those users aren’t on PS5? 🤔
Sure but with how console prices aren't going down like they used to, coupled with how that PCs have become so accessible and with people seeing games coming over there, I would argue a good chunk of gamers won't go back to PS again. Maybe Nintendo but def not xbox or PS
@@sumomaster5585 there’s no market indicator that they wouldn’t go back to PlayStation. The stats just aren’t there. If you have a PlayStation 4 the next logical step is not to go to PC. Football which is selling gangbusters is only on consoles and primarily is played on PlayStation. The next gen versions of 2k are not on PC. Lastly, the biggest upcoming game for probably the next 10 years GTA 6 will not launch the same day as the consoles and will not be on last gen. I bring up these 3 games because they are the real moves and have no distinct advantage or availability on PC. The appeal of consoles is accessibility and ease of use. They’ve already sold 62 million without a GTA 6 or a Wolverine game, you think that won’t be enough when if you compare the lifetime of PS4 to PS5, the PS5 is about 2 million behind and that’s with a global pandemic and not a substantial price cut as of YET.
@@mefirstplease3676
This is just an opinion not based on numbers, so ofc it doesn't hold much weight but hear me out....I think a big reason PS is doing so well is 2 folds..1st the good will they garnered from PS4 whereby ppl thought PS = bangers + becuz xbox is doing so bad....so on the surface it seems PS is doing great, but just like with xbox, this 1st on PS later on PC release cycle renders PS basically useless outside of cheaper entry point + couch gaming. Also many PS and xbox gamers left to PC the trend is only going to accelerate going forward as many ppl realize how shitty an experience consoles really are with paid multiplayers..etc.
You mentioned big release of GTA which is releasing on consoles 1st, but how much you wanna bet the next one will be on PC day one as PC becomes the biggest gaming platform? Console gaming isn'g growing as an audience is a sentiment xbox and PS leaders have expressed, but PC steadliy is
The gaming industry is in a continuous crash. If you remove the indies, there is almost nothing left.
Hyperbole and a poor one at that too. Switch 1st party games have been amazing.
@@sionbarzad5371 Nintendo is crisis too. This was one of the worst for the company. Check online.
@@sionbarzad5371I’m a fan of Nintendo games but not everyone wants out dated technology or to go through the effort to get them to work on the pc
@@spooky-helix217 or go through the effort to pirate it*. That's on those who choose to pirate. Obsessing over tech is exactly why gaming is in this state. People are more worried about graphics than ACTUAL GAMES. PS2, PS3 had HUNDREDS of games EACH. Xbox 360 had dozens of exclusives and big hitters. Now, both companies barely have double digits COMBINED. Meanwhile, Nintendo drops at least a new exclusive every year.
switch games ps games forza
I agree 6th Gen is the golden gen,but i feel like 7th Gen is my favorite.
I would say the 6th gen is the golden gen, the 7th gen is the golden HD gen.
Same
not to be a zealot, but nintendo never explicitly promised affordable game prices or a good online service
Yeah, I'm not a fan of their pricing or how they refuse to localize many of their games in other languages (in my case, portuguese). But then again, that even works as an extra example that if you make good games, even with unaffordable prices and subpar online services, people will still buy it and you'll break sales records.
Because Nintendo is a toy company that just so happens to sell games.
They are only super expensive if you buy them as files. The resale value of nintendo games is amazing and it's not uncommon to lose 10 or 15 at most on a game you bought brand new. It's like Apple products, expensive but then they retain value.
@@wdf70 And yet this 'toy company' is outselling and outsmarting the ''real'' competition... lmfao.
@@wdf70 Where do they make most of their profits? that answers their core business
Imagine you're a young kid growing up with this gen and all you have to look forward to is remakes and remasters of games from our gen.
Looking at the bright side, It could even become a bonding experience, like a father and son having Resident Evil 4 as their favorite - one having played the original, and the other the remake.
i am that young kid man😢 anyways I don't even know what to play so pls recommend some games👍
As someone that's been a console gamer since birth, it's really begun to be more and more depressing just seeing how much gaming has grown to be such a shell of its former self. You used to have plenty of imaginitive ganes and plenty of fun experiences with all of these consoles and handhelds, all the while having plenty of reasons to go for a lot of these systems ranging from legit exclusives to having free online play for the majority of them.
Now outside of Nintendo, all you get are titles from two of the three first party companies having exclusives that are mostly always realistic looking instead of having varied art styles, live service games up the wazoo just set to expire at any given time, some of not most third party companies being more focused on trying to monetize their games as much as possible by overselling too much DLC or having different types of battle passes, AND many of them just making owning a console pointless by making the one thing that matters to them their EXCLUSIVES, available on either another competitor's system or print them on PC.
All that on top of locking online play behind increasingly expensive subscription requirements, making games lost media by closing down the only means of buying them, implementing BS from the real world into the one means of escaping from that BS, gaming itself becoming more and more expensive with more titles costing seventy dollars now AND making physical releases less plentiful overtime... It's just all too freakin' much man!
So much if this is just too much to bear and every passing day that continues on it just makes me wish i had the know how to make a time machine or somwthing so I could go back in time to the days when NONE of this overpoliticalized, overly monetized BS was so freaking prevalent.
And when I think of the phrase "You never know what you have until it's gone," it makes me wish it never did went away. I just wish it was possible to go back to those better days, man....😔
As someone said in another comment, imagine growing up with the 9th gen... At least we got to grow up with those great older consoles.
Gaming has become too popular and mainstream and that means there are more stupid people, and more stupid people means they're gonna keep afloat greedy companies like these (Microsoft, Sony, Ubisoft, EA, Valve, Blizzard, etc). I'm all for gaming becoming more obscure (not extremely obscure ofc, just more niche like it was in the early 2000s).
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I don't think gaming was more niche in the early 2000s. I had a dreamcast for a bit when I was young, then an original xbox, and most of my friends in primary school had a console. Then when I started senior school in 2005, almost everyone did, and that got even more pronounced a few years later when everyone was playing online on 360s/ps3s.
Ps2 came out in 2000 and that's the best selling console ever.
I'd argue gaming hasn't been niche for decades - think of consoles like the NES, SNES and PS1, massively mainstream and popular.
I think you're right about poor business practice though. It feels like a lot of creativity has been sucked out
@@jonnyc429 I'd argue gaming has been niche up until Xbox started and GTA V came out. That's when it truly became mainstream. Up until then Japanese consoles dominated the market
It's the scalpers fault. They ruined the launch of the current gen consoles.
Almost the entire entertainment industry, no matter the medium, has just been terrible for years now.
It's strange to think how poorly the 9th Generation has gone so far. It's been 4 years since the Xbox Series X and PS5 have launched and it feels like they've yet to pick up any momentum.
I've realized that entire game genres have basically disappeared lately. I miss how unique those PS2/Xbox game libraries were. Gaming shouldn't hyper focus on graphics, ray tracing & 4k resolutions. What matters more to me is stuff like physics effects, rag doll effects, using creative art styles, having different gameplay modes, satisfying gameplay mechanics, damage effects and interactive environments. Single player modes and offline modes. Current games focus way too much on graphical nitpicking that they don't realize they are making a terrible game. It's like they've forgotten players enjoy aspects that make games fun? Low poly graphics can work too, if they understand what they're doing. I seriously don't know why gaming had to fall into this rut that we are now in..?
Also:
{We have seen that even if companies delay games, it isn't improving the quality of games being released. Which is a sign there is a MUCH DEEPER issue going on with modern games. No excuses, devs used to make great games with much less and they would have given anything to have certain capabilities to utilize that are available today. It just takes actual passion, focus & talent to make great games. Sidenote: It's so crazy how many people are still supporting super mega rich companies putting out unacceptable products.. i don't understand certain people. I don't understand how certain companies can be messing up so badly. It's frustrating that other passionate people are not allowed to make a version of a type of game that we used to have but no longer get anymore.. Yet these huge companies get full control over if an unused game IP gets made & they do everything they can so no other versions of a game idea will ever come out. Even if there's a huge fan base around certain ideas and there's a ton of passionate devs out there dying to make a version of a certain video game idea.. that frustrates me beyond belief}
You forgot to mention that in the PS4/PS5 & XOne/ XSeries generation we have free2play games for the first time that you can play without a PS Plus or Xbox Gold account (COD WarZone & Fortnite).
This has even led to some people just buying the console and then no more software. The PS4 & PS5 may have sold better than their Xbox counterparts, but that doesn't mean that more software is sold. There is also a quarter of gamers who buy a console just for FIFA Soccer or the other EA or 2K sports games.
The game manufacturers have miscalculated and gambled badly when they make exclusive deals.
Two examples: Street Fighter 4 came out on 3DS, PS3, PC & X360 in 2009. All versions of Street Fighter IV have sold over 9 million units across all platforms.
For Street Fighter 5, Sony made an exclusive console deal with Capcom in 2016, so there were only 2 versions: PS4 & PC. As of December 2023, Street Fighter V has sold 7.4 million units.
the same goes for Final Fantasy VII Remake/ Intergrade. PC, PS4 &PS5 only 7 million sold by September 2023, compare to the 180 million PS4 & PS5 users, not even counting PC users.
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth failed to meet Square Enix's sales expectations, with no sales numbers shared to date.
By May 2022, Final Fantasy XV (PC, PS4 & XOne) had sold ten million units worldwide across all versions, making it one of the best-selling Final Fantasy games of all time.
I remember when I bought a new PS3 two days after the PS4 was revealed (I didn't want to miss out the library), and a few months later, I concluded I don't need higher graphical fidelity... Same reason I was very hyped when Nintendo revealed the Switch.
I think publishers don't want to make AAA games run at 4K resolution and 120fps (that's what the newest consoles can run at!!!) because they know most people won't care. Instead it's making the game looking as realistic as possible... While not doing that not only means achieving higher resolution and framerate, it also means saving resources to other meaningful departments.
I'm just thankful indies exist. And probably the highest budget non-Nintendo game I loved playing recently was Psychonauts 2. Visuals as mesmerizing as excellent gameplay, and wonderful story and lore.
To be completely honest the whole 8th generation was a complete disaster starting from launch. While GPU power, RAM amount performance was great and at the same time CPU power was mediocre (AMD 8 core CPU clocked on 1.6-2 Ghz using piledriver architecture which's a complete disaster itself). Plus whole debacle with Watch Dogs with tuned graphics down on launch just because consoles weren't able to properly run tells a lot.
7th gen is in weird place. They had a very strong CPU power (Xbox with 3C/6T IBM processor, Sony with 2C/8SPU) with limited amount RAM (512Mb for both only Sony had 256/256 for both RAM and VRAM) and GPU that was before Nvidia 8xxx series that was already 2x performance for both consoles. And games were so pushing that it was very common to dip down to 10-15 FPS in some titles.
What's happened is that around 2008-2012 companies found common formulas and slowly started to control developers and creative input. And change of generation that moved from computer nerds to a way more common geeks and even normies made a huge shift of how games and software in general are creating and instead of games that was created by a very passionate and technically minded team is slowly moved to manufactured and formulaic games that possess quality as polished, but bland experience.
9th gen is just a continuation of these trends and because how passionate gamers in general are they feel this anger and desperately try to blame them and calling all names instead of imply understanding that they f**ked up. And because of this they pander casual audience and kids as they're more agreeable and easier to scam, but once they grow up or simply lose interest it becoming a wasteland that devoured of hardcore audience that actually keep these games alive. And until a huge crisis or change of trends nothing will change unfortunately.
The only issue with your assessment here is that Family games are a problem. Fact is video games like any other hobby rely on younger generations to get into continuously. To start with overly complex "Mental Stack" games would turn young people off of games before they could develop a love for them. Every human generation deserves their NES moments whether it comes from Nintendo, Sony or XBOX. The problem with the modern era is even games that are supposed to be geared just for adults have been either watered down game play wise or radicalized story wise. Everything in the "Mature" sector of video games is made exclusively for journalist and those games are the only one that get consistent recognition like The Last of Us II.
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It's not that family games are the problem but how a lot of games are very watered down in general. I even remember how Wii was claimed as failure but in the end received the biggest selling as it catered to casual audience and nobody cared as it didn't hurt anyone. On 6th and 7th gen even casual games had a surprisingly deep mechanics and brilliantly did what they were supposed (PopCap catalog, The Sims series until 4 are great examples). And even popular franchises like Halo or, GTA to some extent had a lot of depth and there's a reason why even now they has popular fanbase.
While we need these games, but there's a very unhealthy balance. With "Mature" it's not just how they're watered down, but a lot of them tries to be provocative while in reality being just an ideological propaganda. The Last of Us II is perfect example of this as it desperately tries to be akin to The Sopranos of how bad and irrational human nature but in the reality The Sopranos when it comes to writing would demolish The Last of Us II in every imaginable way and only expose just how bas latter is. Games like Deus Ex, System Shock 2, MGS2, Silent Hill 2 in early 00 late 00s-early 10s games like GTA 4, Mass Effect trilogy, Dragon Age Origins, Batman: Arkham show just how you can be mature without doing political pandering even if some of them can have their own agenda. About gameplay it's already explained as being watered down.
We stood until the end, but the gates were broken and normies flushed in. Gatekeeping is impossible, for evil always find a way and then commoners trample over everything. But at least we died standing.
The specs were dumb as hell then too, the PS4 was stronger than the Xbox One, but the Xbox One X was stronger than the PS4 Pro, and games made for one had to run on the base model which is odd to imagine.
*mass piracy enters the chat*
My PS5 is not even plugged in, having too much fun on PS3 and 360. Great video
I have my PS5 hook up playing Raise of the Ronin
Jim Ryan is quite literally the worst thing to happen to Playstation.
I’m done buying new consoles. This generation has pushed me to downloading roms and emulating old games. Elden ring is the only game I’ve enjoyed this generation.
Armored Core 6?
I could never understand the pc argument. I think it’s a personal issue if you can’t game on a pc after working on one. Not to mention you can always just plug the pc into a tv and play on a couch
The problem with PCs is that it’s not convenient. They not made for people who just want to play a game. PCs can do everything better than consoles. But they’re also PCs meant to do general purpose task. I understand stand it seems like a personal issue but If there’s an easy alternative to just simply play a game with just a simple setup why not just do that. Imagine wanting to play a game on the living room tv then I got to get my mouse a keyboard just to use it to access a game then and I may want to play with a controller so I gotta set that up. Bonus points If my operating system is on windows and windows needs to update upon boot up.
@@ericboadu8525 consoles need updates as well. And in most cases are mandatory while pc’s are not. Your argument is mute. Consoles aren’t plug and play anymore. If you can work a console, you can work a pc
@@ericboadu8525 just use a controller of playing on a couch?
@@ericboadu8525So I guess you haven't ever used steam big picture mode? It's a console UI for your PC and people like it enough. The whole thing can be navigated on a controller and all you need to do is set it to launch on startup for a console like experience. For me personally, I just have a wireless keyboard and mouse for specific situations where they might be needed and I stick to the regular windows 10 UI and don't have any issues. Once I'm in a game I just use a remote. The UI isn't as flashy as a console's, but it gets the job done. I click on a game and it launches the game. Also, about controllers, all you have to do is pair it once, and then it will auto connect when you turn it on.
@@Patrick-bn5rp I own the steamdeck (which I love btw) it’s great and I’m aware of big picture mode. But again that’s not CONVENIENT the fact I have to set it up in the first place or be aware that feature existence at all. I shouldn’t have knowledge trying to get into the hobby just to play a piece a software. With consoles it’s just plug and play. When someone has enough time to play something the last thing they want to do is set something up. It should be as simple as plug into wall, plug into tv, turn on console buy/select game then play. I haven’t even talked about configuring game settings for ur pc to play competently. Hell that’s even IF you know what those even settings are
The problem is that because of their fear to not meet investors goals new technologies aren't adopted.
We should have had a vr only console or a 3d compatible console like the 3ds a long time ago.
It's inevetable in a world where steakholding is a thing - where everythings about making more money than the previous year, over and over again. And after you've hit the ceiling, you try to force your way through.
Repetetive content, less content, higher prices, employee layoffs etc. it's all about breaking through the ceiling.
That’s not the issue. Wanting to make money is what drove the industry before as well. A dying culture and sick and twisted ideologues just have a hard time creating good art.
@raskolnikov6443 The people at the top thought that ideologs would make them more money. Now that the reality is becoming clear, they're starting to get axed
Iam so happy I grew up with xbox og/ps2 360 /ps3 ❤❤
I'm playing smt 5 vengeance. I bought it on the switch originally, put about 10 hours in, and then picked it up for the Xbox on sale. I was impressed with the quality of performance improvements in the Xbox version, I played it for an hour, and gave it to my little cousin. Picked up my switch and started playing again, the convenience of playing on the switch Trump's any graphical improvements, especially for a game of this type. Sure it would be fun to sit on the couch and watch it and it's 4K 60fps glory, but I'm on the road all day, I have things to do, and pulling out the switch when I have a little bit of downtime takes a few seconds to start up. Trying to log into my xbox, through my laptop or any other Cloud device is cool, but it's nothing like flipping on my switch and playing.
The 7th Gen was the height of AAA quality and creativity. Remember when Sony actually had the balls to experiment? Remember Fat Princess and Tokyo Jungle? They've finally started doing a bit of that again with Sackboy and Astro Bot, but it honestly just isn't enough. Oh, and remember when Ubisoft and Rockstar made racers? The only things great about current gen is that PC are mainstream now and that the indie scene is better than it's ever been.
Microsoft, Sony, and even Nintendo are stagnating. Nintendo and Microsoft are still putting out some great first party games, but the Switch is really terrible hardware and Xbox seems like they're about to collapse after mismanaging their game division for so long. Tango didn't _have_ to be sold off. And it's not like _all_ recent Xbox and Nintendo games have been great.
Folklore, Lair, Puppeteer, Rockstar Table Tennis, 3D Dot Game Heroes... That generation had lots of different games that would never be a major release today.
Most gamers I'd imagine would be completely satisfied with an OG XBox/PS2/GC type console, as far as fetures goes. A console like that running in 4K at 60fps and capable of ray tracing would be a monster of a unit. Add a good controller and a huge liberary of titles (as well as backwards compatibility) to the package and everyone would be satisfied! Shame it'll probably never happen...
We already have that, it's called PC.
No fee for online play, massive library of titles with backwards compatibility going back to the 1990s (including console exclusives via emulation).
4k, ray tracing and unlocked FPS..
Edit: and you can use any controller you want. Switch, ps4, xbox, ps5.
Not only can you use any controller, you can actually use the full features of each controller. You can actually use the gyro of the Dualsense to aim in shooters using third party software like SteamInput, and the touchpad gets more use as well. And JoyShockMapper can edit the function of the Adaptive Triggers. Same thing with Switch Joycons. Plus using weirder controller like Steering Wheels and stuff.
@@riks081 a PC HAS a bunch of unnecessary features though (as far as gaming is concerned). I don't want my video game system to have a browser, apps or any of that stuff.
A ps2 could play music CDs and DVDs on top of the PlayStation librar, while the XBox had online play if you connected the console via ethernet. That's enough features for a console, which in turn brings the costs down.
As far as controllers goes, dual analog sticks, gyro-aim, 2 analog triggers, 2 shoulder buttons, 4 facebuttons, a D-pad, a 3,5mm headphone jack, USB-C charging and HD rumble are all the features you'll need for basically any game ever made
The next set of plannings are: force people to buy PS5 and XBOX by locking GTA VI to consoles, then just within 1 year or so announce PS6. This is what they did with GTA V. Many if not all of PS3 users had to buy GTA V again for PS4 or PC.
SNES in '94 will always be the best for Super Metroid and Final Fantasy III alone. True gaming!
Most AAA games all look and feel the same. I have recently been buying and playing older games that I missed out on in favor of brand new releases.
I recommend Dragon's Crown Pro
I don’t care how much time making a new console takes, the 9th console generation being so shit is why I want Sega to start making consoles again! I’d love to see a new console that’s as user friendly as 6th/7th generation consoles and makes gaming fun again!
Imagine on one end you have the Playstation and Xbox debate and (if sega makes a new system) the Sega vs Nintendo debate all over again
No, they promised overpriced systems, and that's exactly what they've delivered.
I remember wanting a PS3 just for MGS4, I got it in 08 and I got DMC4, and Soul Calibur 4, eventually the bangers came in like MW2, Little Big Planet, RE5, SF4, Uncharted 2 and many others I can't remember but man it was such a gem of a system. I have my PS5 for 14 months now and my god its extremely underwhelming, especially the hard drive space. I already have a hard drive for my PS4 games that's maxed out but the PS5 is unbelievably uncompressed. I only have 4 F2P Games and 3 physical games. KOF15, SF6 and FF7Rebirth. With just 40GB left.
If there's games for it I don't bother, I'll eventually get a Steam Deck because them and Nintendo have the better idea of storing these games into SD Cards which are dirt cheap and expansive. MK1 on Switch is under 40 GB, on PS5 its over 100 GB. Yeah looks worse but its the same experience now that they fixed the launch problems.
Well said, I got a PS4 for a few exclusives but I've seen no need to get the current Gen of consoles. I just choose to play on PC instead
i just built a 1200€ PC, Just do it guys consoles have no chance, 2k 144fps all max settings Always stable and you can play whatever u want
Imagine if we could hop in a time machine with today's tech, and find Warren Specter when he was making the OG Deus Ex.
Well while the console do provide "simplicity" they also provide the "If the controls/performance/graphics suck in any way, that's how you have to play it the whole game" So, the simplicity often comes with a price. That's why I always rather spend few minutes fixing a bad PC port then accepting whatever developers decided is the best setting on console.
Even console ports are bad ex - redfall, forspoken, Marvel's spiderman 2,star wars Jedi survivor, dragons dogma 2
I can argue that if the console port is bad it mean the pc port is even worse unless it was it made for pc first like CP2077 or cities skylines
@@faresfares-ultra Ok but it does not mean that console ports are always good .
@@faresfares-ultrano plenty of bad console ports with better PC ports. It's not a hard and fast rule. It's not even about what the game was developed for - but rather the developer. Returnal is a great game developed originally as a PS5 exclusive .. but it's not a great port with low rez, and has its issues. By comparison, the later PC port is substantially better. It really depends. There are plenty of inferior PC ports of console games, but just as many in reverse, and plenty of console games focused that are better on PC. This is why I don't generalize this topic anymore.
@@user-xl3zw7jj3hspiderman 2 is a good port
I’m 34 years old and have noticed myself and a lot of my peers falling out of favor with the hobby, I’m always wondering if I’m just aging out of game playing or if the industry is just really lost and losing players
On top of all of what the console world does wrong I also think the main argument for using a console - its supposed simplicity - is rendered void by the fact that gaming on a PC is also a matter of plugging and playing these days. The days in which configuring a PC was a skill to master are pretty much over.
You're forgetting the main factor: money. PCs are still too overpriced just to get into gaming.
@@HerotsLament And exclusives, though mostly on Nintendo's part. I won't ever commit to PC gaming for that one reason.. oh, and being uncomfortable on a chair for long periods of time
@@MaubariWho is asking you to sit on a chair? You can literally use wireless controller, sit on a couch and enjoy by using external monitor such as smart TV. Same experience as console. Moreover, buying games for PC is cheaper.
Yes. Consoles are way too overpriced to do get just for gaming.
@@HerotsLament its not 100% fair to compare the prices directly because you can use a PC for more than just gaming. And a GPU on the level of consoles (currently thats a mid range 20xx series card) is not that expensive, especially on the second hand market.
So you didn’t perceive a dramatic difference in graphics between the 8-bit and 16-bit generations? Then you’re probably too young to have actually experienced it. Most of us walked unexpectedly into a friend’s game room with a newly acquired SNES in 1991/92 and literally started screaming WHAT THE HEL IS THAT?!! When they saw Super Mario World for the first time. It was a life-changing experience.
Yeah, I'm a PS4 who hasn't upgraded. I don't really play consoles too much. I do want to play FF7 Rebirth though. So eventually I will. I'm just surprised that we're still 4 years out and the price is $500.
you should check out Raise of the Ronin
People play games to experience unrealistic things in the somewhat realistic environment.
Immersed in impossible worlds.
Okay Weeb.
PS5 needs full PS1 and ps2 backwards compatibility disc support with CECHE-01 and emulation from PCSX2 features with that idea, and more exclusives. Xbox Series X/S needs more exclusives as well and have full backwards compatibility with OG Xbox and Xbox 360 disc support. Have the next gen system release in 2029-2030.
Playstation have no interest in disc backward compatibility they would rather sell them back to you via ps plus
How dare you rob Sony of its hard earned money? 😢 Why can't they re-sell you the same games for the 5th time with inflated prices? 😭
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When it comes to backwards compatibility on Xbox, not all games are included due to licensing, legal, and technical restraints.
Fair assessment that nails all the issues without the sensationalism. Especially how the face of the industry has changed a great deal, but gamers really haven't. There's a lot of people in the industry who want to force gamers to change rather than adapting to market demand. Nintendo meanwhile does so well because they still embrace that old school philosophy of game design while keeping things innovative. As for hardware constraints being a positive, I've maintained for a while now that the Series S is this generation's best (non-Nintendo) console. It's $300 and offers a perfectly acceptable experience. There's no shortage of devs though who complain about it though. While I can appreciate the challenge of getting games to run on limited hardware, I think a lot of devs today just don't know how to optimize. Either relying on brute force or ML upscaling to compensate. Even on PC, you'll see a lot of these AAA games chugging on hardware that should be able to run them no problem. If Saber Interactive can get Witcher 3 running decently on the Switch, you have no excuse.
Most all new games play on PC, S-X and Ps5. But a $500 PC can not play these new games like a $500 console can .
The PS4 and PS3 controllers also had gyros and accelerometers.
Cyberpunk did technically launch on PS4 and xbone but that was not pretty and they had to reduce things like crowd density. Phantom liberty and later cyberpunk 2077 never arrived to last gen.
Cyberpunk can't run on base ps4 and xbox one, that was very obvious even before release but it's not like a company ,which collaborates with sweet baby and is EGS compliant, isn't at fault. The xbox one x and ps4 pro versions worked fine even though the original devs were so horribly crunched
@@MGrey-qb5xz True. The fact the PS4(base) is a GTX 750 equivalent, and yet the CPU is STILL the bottleneck on it was all they needed to know it was too ambitious for them. Unfortunately, advertising a game for PS4 only for it to not work on PS4 is something only Sony themselves could do (and did with the PS2 Slim since many need the HDD that the Slim can't use) and get away with, so they had to put out something to fit that requirement.
It should've been this gen exclusive, it'd finally give us a reason to need a next gen system lmao.
@@BlueEyedVibeChecker i'm still so pissy about the slim model just being a downgrade compared to my phat console which was perfect, then i had to go and break it and live with stupid slim with it constantly scratching my discs
@@MGrey-qb5xz GTA online ran far worse on PS4 before support for it was dropped.
Cyberpunk 2077 was improved on PS4/xbone, ofc it remained limited to 30fps at best but that was to be expected.
Amazing consoles (after 3 generation with slow ROM) with few game that can push all that power.
We really need more AA videogames like armor core 6, astro boy and some nintendo games.
How the previous generation of consoles got more experimental games and more titles is beyond me. We should have more titles this gen with studios taking risks smh
Gameplay and the ability to do unique things that are impossible in the real world in an easily controllable way are key elements that will get sales.
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Consoles are like phones now. You dont need to buy each new iteration. This is good.
Bro I think I love about pc is able to mod and play games in languages that are region locked (modern games mostly region lock language because of certain contracts)
I don’t think it’s empty promises, I believe it’s a “we dont do anything about it”. Take DLC, Loot Boxes, Star Wars, Marvel as a few examples. People always complain of the terrible quality and state Star Wars and Marvel are in, yet they still go out there and watch the movies and buy the games. Loot Boxes, everyone complains about them, there have been laws in certain countries and states about them, and the pay to win aspect, yet people still buy them and complain. Watch a new Madden or COD comes out with Loot Boxes and they’ll make over a million on the first week from them. The gaming and console companies know this and use it not against us but, they know we won’t actually do anything about it. If you took all the major release in gaming the past 4 years; Tekken, Call of Duty, Mortal Kombat, Spider man, Avengers, Mario, God of War, those games put out terrible during the first few weeks. We all know they are going to be terrible, buggy, over priced, half ass, yet we still buy them and complain about it.
People and accountability go together like milk and a Soda Stream, they hate companies "casual approach" yet a DVD player(PS2) sold 10 to 1 to its SOLE launch title for that reason(DVD playback).
They want fun games that "try something different" but whenever something different comes around, critics pan it, "fans" ignore it. (seriously, name one arcade-style title people talk about from the last five years that wasn't solely from people in that niche ACTUALLY having fun with it. You probably can't, even with Google)
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Gamers did it to themselves and deserve the future we have.
Current gen doesn't feel like it exists
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Thanks!
Logically, I know that it's technically still the old Sony Vs. Microsoft Vs. Nintendo deal from gens 6 through 8 and then the Steam Deck isn't really in the same ball-park as then, but it just feels like Nintendo and Valve are tag-teaming Sony and Microsoft and winning
5:50 You forgot Returnal and Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart. Or do you even exclude PC versions?
Yeah, I'm focusing on games that you can't play anywhere else. So even Final Fantasy XVI will be off that list soon.
@@criticalpixels ok makes sense 👍🏻
@@criticalpixelsmy opinion is that if it came out in pc and ps5 it should still be considered an exclusive since the pc market is much smaller compared to the console market.
Ironicamente a Sony lançou agora o PS5 Pro por 700 dólares.
Console players getting lied to about framerate target and native resolutions for the fifth generation in a row
back in the day, any advances were actually really significant. once we hit 3d it was just incremental graphics upgrades with only real significant changes being any special "gimmicks" a given machine might have. like adding 4 players, online gaming, touch screen, motion controls, vr
PS2 and PS3 had a lot of cross gen releases
I actually think gaming has advanced a lot. There just isn't a ton of games because it takes too long.
I assume this generation will last into next gen with cross gen. This is the first gen where I feel like I shouldn't have to upgrade next gen and just hold onto my series x until I can't play new games.
Even last gen with the ps4, I didn't feel like things could get much better. But honestly, load times, map sizes, and graphics have gone up quite a bit.
To me, I feel like halo infinite and need for speed unbound are the perfect examples of next gen games.
At first they seem like normal games as they were before. But halo infinite is massive with adding extra mobility with the grapple hook. Exploring locations instead of just being funneled from one location to the next.
Need for speed unbound extra graphics around your vehicle and dragging behind you. first time having npcs in the map. Other drivers flash their lights at you if they saw a cop.
I think probably the ps5 pro will advertise better next gen games. They just haven't gotten to it yet. Also the next xbox sounds like it's just around the corner.
It seems weird because really this gen is just starting. We will most likely see gens last longer and go into other gens. Seems bad for next gen. But over all good for consumers that can't or don't want to upgrade yet.
Such a well made video. I own a PS4 pro and a series x. I find myself playing my PS3 with cfw more than anything
The issue is that customers and video game companies need to accept that there is nothing new that a video game system can do; This isn't a bad issue, let me explain
Video games today need to be more about extravagant exploration, massive open worlds, and good stories; It's impossible to make a similar transition such as Sega Genesis to PlayStation One
This is why I play games on a gaming laptop, because I get everything that's realistically possible with the modern world and that is: Ultra 4K graphics, 60 frames per second, very slow loading times, mods just in case I want extra entertainment, and I get to enjoy games from PlayStation and Xbox as well as almost every game that's been made
One of the things I love about PC Gaming is that the platform isn’t locked down to just one storefront. Developers and Publishers can create their own storefront and not have to censor their game’s content to appease Steam’s employees whenever that Valve employee is having a very bad day
Blackmyth wukong seem to be the first game that made use of the current gen hardware's potential
I'm curious, in ps5 can normal people change the liquid metal easily without it damaging the console?
Normal people can't open a ps5
@@doublejumpvideogames.... if you open a ps5 then you ARE G**
_Laughs in PC_
Ironically, Steam released IMO one of the greatest consoles we had in a while that is the Steam Deck, in this generation that was supposed to be dominated by the PS5 and XBox. For this reason, it has become my favourite generation because the lack of variety on console games introduced me to PC games.
Im one of those gamers who's yet to upgrade to PS5. Right now, Wukong and Dragon's Dogma 2 are the only next gen exclusives I want to really play but I can wait. I mostly buy discount games anyway. Aside from that, I've got a backlog of about 20ish games. I know that's nothing compared to other backlogs but its a lot for me considering they're mostly big games like Fallout 4, Witcher 3, Horizon Zero Dawn, AC Odyssey, Valhalla, etc. I got over FOMO years ago so I'm good with it.
Do you play on a small monitor? If you play on a mid-large 4k TV the difference is Huge...
The last 2 console generations have been incredibly underwhelming. The current gen is complete trash.
7:05 This is probably a big part of why.
7th gen was peak gaming. We'll never see anything like it ever again. Games were made better when they were sold with the intention of getting one big return on launch day. Now that we have gamepass and playstation plus, games are made for what I like to call "infinite revenue". They purposely design games as a service where they still get money years after it's initial release. Completely skimping on the quality and fun aspect.
Before games were a service, they genuinely had to make the game GOOD. Fun, engaging, something that made people say "Yeah I'm waiting till 12am to get it". Nowadays that's hardly ever the case. Greed has officially ruined the industry. It's not coming back. The big wigs and executives with their million dollar homes, 3 cars, and 2 boats decided that they don't get enough money, so they want more and this is how they do it.
The move from Single Player games to Live Service is digusting.