Diver Detained For Cleaning Up Trash from a River
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Are you feeling ok? B+ is ridiculous
Something's a little fishy with these last I don't know five or so videos not sure if you're getting paid by the government seems like they've been getting real high marks lately when they've clearly been in the wrong and are tripping just like Biden over their own power
Karen’s emotions are too attached to this, let’s do some more research on her.
-@intricateguy
I think you may have missed the most relevant laws on this video. The Maritime salvage law is applicable to "all navigable waterways, natural or man made". Since the gentleman is absolutely salvaging items from a navigable waterway, would he not be entitled to keep those items? Just as the folks that salvaged items from the Titanic?
learn your rights so tyrants can run wild. Auditor please learn of the straw man etc
"Dad, someone threw all of their McDonald's trash on the ground."
"Don't touch it, son. It might be historical."
😆😆😆
That's true. Mayor McCheese played a large role in feeding the troops, and Ronald McDonald gave free shows every night, but the biggest role was the drive through workers who screwed up every order they passed on.
Give it 60 years and you could make an argument that it's an artifact.
Lol top tier comment
That might have been Bill Clinton’s McDonalds trash!
What a good service she did. She got a good Samaritan to never come back to clean up her park. What a Karen.
She was annoying and condescending, but she was following the law and she didnt make the law.
Unlike so many of the cops in these videos at least she knew what the laws were. I'll take her over some ego trip asshole that doesnt even know what laws are.
@@stephengrigg5988 what she did is decrease public safety, because less disposed firearms will be recovered, which means less solved crimes like assault with a deadly weapon, murder, etc.
@@stephengrigg5988 She is part of the problem with WHY Our Tax Dollar$ are being wasted. There are Departments in her FORCE that should be out doing these "good deeds", or Investigating Crimes properly, but this guy is out there doing it instead, and that makes those cops AFRAID!
@@eltorocal to an extent, Stephen is right. It’s important to follow the law, and rather than fight people, fight laws. That diplomatic action is what keeps people safe. However, sometimes it can be understood with a unreasonable law for an officer to turn a blind eye.
@@makaiwise4609 No he’s not right dufr wth is wrong with some ppl. He’s literally helping I don’t see an issue he could have kept the guns but he’s a good guy and gave it to the police if it was a problem then they should do it themselves she’s such a Karen could have been out saving a life🤦🏾♂️
You can tell he genuinely wants to help and do good and they're treating him like a criminal. Her attitude is absolutely disgusting
Exactly. Officers often focus way too much on the technicality of the law, instead of the spirit of the law. Even if the officers didn’t do anything illegal, these aren’t the people that should be law enforcement…. No professional discretion whatsoever
It seems that they don't have anything to do. Instead of saying thank you to find those gun and report it. What happen next time he does not remove a thing, some kids find those gunns and worst thing happen. Then what??
@@user-nx6vq3bz4kExactly. I mean it could be said she was just notifying him of the risks of removing potentially historical stuff from the river, but she was very condescending, agressive, and essentially discouraging him from doing the good public service of removing trash and dangerous objects from the river.
B+ seems like a high grade for the park ranger. She stopped and harassed someone who had not broken any laws because he might, at some point in the future, accidentally break a law.
Sounds like you are not a friend of minority reports.
She gets a big fat F. Emphasis on the big
He chose to continue the interaction
Of course you use the word harass. They police were proactive to help the diver from getting in trouble. If they waited until he broke the law then you’d complain that they could have let him know. You’re obviously anti cop, use common sense.
@@Zooks75 Firstly, I am not anti-cop in the slightest. In fact, I spent years as a police explorer, but life took me (and my career) in a different trajectory. That statement speaks louder about your biases than anything I said speaks to mine.
Secondly, if she was only advising him of the law, then that conversation should have been done in one minute, but instead, she detained him, ID'd him, and then lectured him for ten minutes about exactly where her jurisdiction is and the relevant laws. If she believed that he had removed or damaged any historical items, then she should have investigated that.
This lady should not have a gun nor be in a position of authority.
had too much donuts
Just the tone of her voice could set the wrong person off.
I guess she missed the class on descalation
@@sidhawkwind8179she definitely didn’t miss lunch tho
@@KimoKimochii she probably steals the picnic baskets ( like Yogi Bear) claiming they could litter with them or it's an artifact
She's like "I hope he doesn't find the gun I used to kill my ex husband. That's historically significant"
She acting kinda funny.... Could be true
I mean unironically though 😅
You sure he didn't kill himself after living with that Karen every day?
🤣
Bruh I don’t think she has a husband 😂
"I'm sorry officer. I will immediately go and throw all the trash I've collected back into the river."
Offiicer: im arresting your for littering the litter in the river we dont care about
Better yet, throw her in the river! I couldn't see anyone wanting to retrieve her.
He should dump it on her front lawn. She probably doesn’t like men, especially handsome ones who would find her disgusting.
Which they’d then fine him for 😂
@@heyspookyboogie644 no no those are all historical artifacts
Officer Karen, give that kid a medal for cleaning up the rivers and recovering weapons that you dept. could not do.
No order him to stop for destroying historical archaeological evidence.
And: some money.
*would not
I had to laugh when he turned it back on her. "Why don't you clean up the historical artifacts?"
"Why would we do that?"
Someone found very old gold coins buried on a remote location, he "being a good citizen" took it to the authorities happily expecting they will thank him and maybe give him a medal or something if not a monetary prize, Instead he was accused of not turning over everything he found and was jailed and lengthily interrogated and had his home searched and most of his families and friends.
She’s worried he’ll find where she’s been dumping her victims.
Or the gun she used
She doesn't look like she's dumping victims, looks like she's eating them.
Literally my first thought
Lmao 🤣
Thought the same. She should be investigated more thoroughly
It's like saying: "You should not be in a grocery store because stealing groceries is illegal"
wElL hOw Do I kNoW yOuR nOt StEaLiNg GrOcErIeS
Anymore not stealing groceries is illegal.
My concern is why he wasting his valuable time cleaning up those rivers. He can do something productive. People pay taxes for the government for river cleaning too.
@@MeshPromo One man's garbage is another's treasure.
@@grandpied He said he was cleaning the garbage as a help for the environment cleaning. not for his personal collecting.
I also like how she aggressively approached this long conversation about theoretically finding a hypothetical artifact. All in a days work.
Diver: "I just wanna clean our waters and do the right thing."
Ranger: "You can, but you can't. And you shouldn't."
Diver: "That doesn't make any sense."
Ranger: "Yes and no."
Diver: "Are you serious right now?"
The ranger definitely killed someone and tossed the weapon in the river.
lmao my wife said the same.
Yes ...those are her guns 😂😂😂
Wait so she didn’t eat them
@@Jackass-tx2kp she ate the bodies, that's why the only thing that's left are the guns lmao
@@AlFredo-sx2yy ha true
That park ranger is making a mountain out of a mole hill. She came out straight up confrontational.
She was mad he called the real police when he found the guns lol
she basically said "don't just go around picking up pieces of trash- it might be important". male cop said "yeah, or it might hurt you".
meanwhile, this kid has taken 70+ guns and untold trash from the waterway these cops are 'protecting'.
@@nonyabizness.original "Don't drive cars, we never know if you might speed one day and break a law" "But I'm not speeding" "But we don't know that." "....."
She's a mountain that covers mole hills!
In Russia they say "making an elephant out of a fly".
This dude actually works with local law enforcement to find missing vehicles In rivers I watch his videos and I commend him for removing trash from the environment
"How are we supposed to know this" is a very bad question for an officer to ask. The burden of proof is on the accuser.
This is inaccurate. The park has a policy against removing things from the park because it might accidentally disturb objects of historical value. They were granting him extra ability to remove things that were trash, against this policy. They were more lenient than their policies stated, because they eventually recognized the value of cleaning out more than 70 guns. For the same reason, citizens unauthorized to conduct archaelogical digs could be disallowed from doing so, even if the Government or related people with authority weren't currently excavating that dig.
she’s a living representation of cops with “guilty until proven innocent” mindsets
@@812MSS Y'know, dude, there are plenty of legit reasons to not like the lady. Don't be a body-shaming prick.
@@mitchh3092 whereas i agree it is not good to body shame, i think the idea you are trying to get across gets lost and person will get defensive after being called a name. Js.
Citizens are the enemy according to law enforcement
She’s seen minority report one too many times “what if you do something in the future”.........the hell ?
"how do we know you didn't" is the quintessential stupid cop question.
That could excuse all types of actions.
"So, how'd your park duties go today?"
"I got stuck watching some dudes taking trash outa the river."
So this entire interaction could've just been the quick conversation that happens at 7:54
"How do you want me to go about fishing trash outta the river"
"Give us a call and let us know what your doing. Then we can help in examining/monitoring your work"
"Cool, will do next time"
And scene.....
yeah for me he was kinda being a dick she told him that all he needs to do is notify them of what he's removing and they will monitor and then he started this argument about how he shouldn't have to report to them. kinda wack.
"Thanks for being a good citizen and cleaning up trash. Just to let you know, if you ever come across anything that might hold historical value, and you aren't sure, just contact us and we'll send someone out." Would that have been so difficult? Why do so many of these people begin everything confrontationally? He's cleaning trash from the river!
Also, he's found 47 guns in there? Maybe they're focusing on the wrong thing here. 🤔
perfectly said.
Cuz she killed someone with one of those guns
@@brunooterodeleon2343 😂😂
Because they are americans. That's why
That old plastic water bottle you found underwater was a historical value
It was the empty water bottle that Tommy Wiseau threw in the rooftop scene from The Room.
wElL hOw Do I kNoW iT dOeSn'T
Right.
Also the same bottle that poisons the river slowly as CDC's breaking down over years and why plastics are so bad.
@@DaveyLuckky yea that's 1 of the reasons they usually want you to clean those up specifically.
The more she talks the more it sounds like she doesn’t want HER guns found in the river…
I just had this exact conversation with my wife... She has nothing better to do with her day than to harass a guy removing illegally dumped guns from a federally controlled section of river, nut she magically has no idea how over 70 guns happened in her section of river. All I am saying is that it seems rather suspect that she is going in this hard on a guy for doing the right thing while not breaking any laws.
@@karrachr000
And the more disturbing part is that the kid found over 70 guns in this river alone & the woman wants to argue about historical artifacts being "picked up". Not 7, but 70 firearms! That's like a small gun shop's inventory right there. I bet all that woman does is sit on her ass and watch videos about food.
Yeah, what I thought..
@@KermitOfWar juding by the size of her she eats more then more then she works
@@enigma9273 this is probably why she was so hostile. I can imagine that this guy disturbed her donut and Netflix chill time.
I love how she refers to park land as "our(s)". The government makes none of it's own money and gets everything it needs from the people. I get she's enforcing the laws, but it is fascinating how quickly things purchased and maintained by the government, on behalf of the people, do more to limit the people than to serve them.
It is evident she was taking the identity of a native american, over that of a warden, or of an american citizen on US soil. I can easily sympathize with the perspective of witnessing a diver disturbing areas rife with native american artifacts that perhaps are being disturbed by the diver who retrieves them. On protected lands it is valid to demand that divers not disturb artifacts, so it is easy to empathize with a native person feeling that artifacts should not be disturbed just because its a few feet past the border. While not legally valid, laws almost never preserve native artifacts and it takes a tremendous effort to get an area to be recognized as a potential source of artifacts, so I understand how she felt. Sure she definitely wasn't allowed to demand someone not disturb native artifacts, but any native american would have the same concerns.
The young man expresses concern over objects staying underwater for 20 years but artifacts have already been there for hundreds and have 1,000x the informational value when excavated by a scientific professional that they have when dug up by a 'treasure hunter'
"We're worried that these artifacts might accidentally get destroyed, so it's best to leave it in the river where it will certainly get destroyed."
If you remove them, then we'll never get the context of them being in the river back.
So... Leave them in their original context in the river where no one will get any value from that context?
Such a stupid thing to try and enforce. She must be bored.
@@HotMonkeyDik probably. I don't think park rangers see a whole lot of action, so, I imagine she saw this as an opportunity to be a cop.
@@joemann7971 100% fact that’s why cops in big cities rarely if ever issue tickets for J-walking or improper use of a milk crate.
@@Imozart0341I I think the less stressful the job, the more nitpicky the cops tend to be, ironically. Park ranger seems to be the least stressful of all the cop jobs, unless they work on California and having to deal with regular forest fires, but even then, all they have to do at most is call the fire department to have them take care of it.
Imagine a cop pulling you over for going the speed limit and then ticketing you because “you could go over the speed limit”
Just had a video of a guy pulled over and given a written warning for driving the speed limit.
I got pulled over for going the speed limit once at about midnight on I-40 back in 99. I was told he pulled me over because a lot of drug smugglers drive this highway and only go the speed limit so he pulled me over to search my car because I could be carrying drugs. I declined the search so he said he was calling in a K9 but ended up not doing it and let me go on my way about 5 minutes later. I have also been pulled over and ticketed for going 1 mph over the speed limit before too
“Sir your speedometer goes to 120, this is a 35mph zone”
@@truffleshuffle009 Good job. Never give permission for anything to a cop -- it's never in your interest to let them look for things to charge you with.
People think "But if I refuse it'll look suspicious!" Okay? And? "Looking suspicious" isn't a crime. If the dude wants to open your trunk, he's already *suspicious*, so refusing isn't going to make things worse, and letting him search for reasons to arrest you absolutely can.
You're missing the part when you asked people to keep to the limit.
There was always this saying about the National Park Service “Go to the park on vacation, leave on probation”.
“Sometimes you find something historical, and that’s a problem.”
Yeah I love visiting all my favorite underwater mud drenched museums they just don’t hit the same above ground.
She’s trying to figure out how he’s wrong but she can’t figure it out.
i cant tell if she is enforcing this on her own or if she enforcing this second to her boss's orders.
she say they have seen his videos.
If she really knew the good reasoning as to why he wasn't to go in there you think she would have been able to word it better
Well, I'd he finds an antique gun from the 1812, it would gave historical value. Of course it's a huge if and a BS argument.
Because she doesn't belong in law enforcement. No woman does.
Oh she knows, she just doesn't know how to say it.
@@plantfeeder6677 Explain yourself.
Cops: Lets just make sure to deter people from being outstanding citizens
Wouldn't want to show what could be done with a little elbow grease and 1/1,000,000th of the resources that are used to oppress you on a daily basis.
You rarely benefit from working with the government. They will turn on you once they don't need your help.
'No good deed goes unpunished.'
@@smilebehappy6102 one can hope
@@oregondude9411 or with companies
Post 10 is a great channel of this guy clearing culverts, beaver dams, generally cleaning up Rivers so roads aren't destroyed.
It's actually interesting and fun to watch.
After going down this rabbit hole and watching at least 30 to 40 hours of these videos in the last couple of days Ive realized it's just not safe to go anywhere or do anything. Just stay at home people, pretend you're still in lockdown and you won't get into any trouble. 🙄
WRONG!!! DIdnt you see the video where police enter the wrong house and refuse to leave?
Unfortunately you haven't seen the videos where being in your home isn't even safe
Officer: "You cannot go killing people, this against the law and is called murder"
Citizen: "Okay, well I haven't killed anyone, I've just walked along the street"
Officer: "I'm not saying you have killed anyone, but if you have, then that's illegal"
Citizen: "Okay, this is not making any sense to me"
Officer: "Do you have your drivers licence on you"
Officer: "Do you have your drivers licence on you"
No...because I'm walking :p
Yes this is exactly capturing her illogical reasoning. Feels like she just hates this guy personally, watches his videos and follows him around the park.
@@L2PlayRunescape
You're right, there does appear to be something personal about her attitude towards yon lad.
My thoughts were the same on that haha
@@joeyr88 i bet she get the guns from him a resale them or pawn them. Since that other cop was there she couldnt get money for the gun.
She’s acting like she tossed something she doesn’t want him finding.
The guy next to her is like damn what's happening rn
Ain't that the truth!
i was thinking the same lol
This was my first thought
That gun is her's lol
Man I love your channel. I’m personally unbelievably terrified to have any interaction with any police officers especially a disagreement. I’m trying to use your channel to build up confidence if I ever need to during an interaction.
leave the trash and go someplace you are wanted. you do great work and there are many places that would welcome your skills. keep up the positive job.
She’s mad because he making their department look bad for not doing their job. He found 70 guns and she admitted she watches his RUclips videos so that would give enough reason to form a team to dive and look for guns
Here’s a solution; don’t upload any videos ANYWHERE of your activities when you’re “cleaning up.” Any guns found would just be thrown back into the river, or trash. Oh, well.
All of those guns were found in many DIFFERENT waterways, not JUST that one.
Well next time I need a gun I know to just get some scuba gear and blub blub
@@REDSIX lol 🤣 that's what I was thinking. This guy is doing some good and their butt puckers up like he found incriminating evidence against them.🤦
70 guns?! Holy shit!
Her chief should put her on garbage duty, you know, to make sure it's done correctly and in accordance with the law.
As long as she is checking it all for historical artifacts
If I was her boss that's what I would do
She already on park duty they can't put her anywhere lower that's her first action in months
Amazing idea!!!
Could have historical significance..
5:45 Her logic is simply astounding. Might as well arrest everyone with a car because they might have used it for a crime - how are they supposed to know otherwise?
Her accusing him of “potentially” removing an object of historical significance can literally be accused of anyone. She’s so dumb, at that point she has to prove that.
Innocent until proven guilty. If you have suspicions, prove it. Don’t try to infringe upon his rights.
"Before we *dive* into this episode..."
This is generally known as a pun, and while the audience may be divided on whether puns should be allowed or not, it is reasonable to assume that a comments section would rule this pun not only hilarious but also warranted given the situation.
Mr. Audit the Audit gets an A+ for the proper use of humor and the flawless delivery of such humor. I commend him for trying something new and interesting and encourage the use of humor in future episodes.
This is the best comment
@@CookieTwoStep Thank you! I tried on this one.
Hahahah gold!
And viewers get a C for mostly failing to notice.
Underrated comment. I read this in the narrators voice
*She already had her mind set on trying to arrest this man before this encounter just because she saw him online* 🙄🙄🙄
Thats my guess as well. Based on what ive seen & heard.
She's already tried to accuse him. Claiming to have "seen him remove stuff from the park" which I seriously doubt because she would have already had him arrested if she had.
And if they were really that concerned about "historically valued relics" the park/river wouldn't be open to anybody.
A farming field could have "historically valued objects/relics" in them. A 100 yrs from now that plastic bottle could have "historical value" lol.
If she really said that to me i would have called her "B.S." would tell her to prove i "took stuff"
All she knows is what she saw on videos. OMG HE TOOK TRASH OUT OF THE RIVER, HE FOUND GUNS IN THE RIVER & called local authorities to hand them over for their investigations.
She really has no life
@@JustBeYouTy clearly
@@jasonleslie203 yeah, she went on a power trip for no reason. Just like you said, if the states really cared about the river, they’d sweep it themselves.
@@oohwhathappened I think what happened was that she had seen his channel before and it being called depths of history she might have seen them remove/move items that MIGHT have historical significance. She had a poor understanding of the law because for the most part those laws are there to prevent people from taking advantage of federal law like removing fruit etc. to sell later. The law doesn't state you cant FIND historical items, it just says you shouldn't disrupt them or remove them from the park. I'm sure if they found some old Native American artifact a professional would be called there and it would be on display etc, not thrown back in the river like she was making it seem.
Another problem with her B+ grade is that, according to him, she lied when she said she had seen videos of him taking stuff away from the river. Secondly, her words may have been 'Federal property', but her attitude screamed "MY river. MY river, MY river, NOT yours".
Next time take those busted golf balls and rusty beer cans and leave them on her desk. Your work for the planet is appreciated.
She sounds like she might've hid something in the river and is afraid of someone finding something...
The urge to assert her authority is so overwhelming that she has no self-awareness that she sounds like a complete idiot. Instead of saying 'thank you' for caring about the park and taking the time to clean it up she's scraping the barrel looking for something to berate him about.
She’s just doing her job.
@@cheatahmame6663 lol cant tell if you're taking the piss out of park rangers or genuinely believe what you said
@@cheatahmame6663 No she’s not. Did you even listen to the video?
She refers to things she has seen in his videos, we don't know what all he has posted that she may be referring to, and his excess discussion about turning in historical objects to museums, seems to indicate that he may have possibly removed more than just trash and guns...however, if she saw a video of him removing historical items, then she should have taken legal action as a law enforcement officer, which didn't happen, so all we can really say is that there is probably more to the story on both sides.
@@cheatahmame6663 If that's her job then that job shouldn't exist, lol.
So now he won't bother with cleaning up the river in the national park! Great result then! Well done Rangers!!
Yep 😏👤🙄
Your going to put prison inmates out of work!!!
@DINGY LINGY Fux awf mynz Are you seriously asking why someone is cleaning up trash?
We've gone full circle now. A guy CLEARLY doing a good deed gets harassed for it. This is rigoddamndiculous....
The off camera friend deserves an A+ for actually asking clarifying questions and hypotheticals that answered and explained what both the ranger and Mr Lockwood were trying to convey.
So many of these videos could have been resolved peacefully and quickly if more people asked clarifying questions and used hypotheticals to point out inconsistencies and contradictions in officer orders or commands.
"We didn't remove anything of historical value"
"How are we supposed to know?"
Officer, you just hit the nail on the head. You have absolutely no reason to believe he has moved anything of historical value.
Also there should be a statement that allows citizens to clean out federal land to make it more eco friendly
Exactly. She could have asked the same question to a family out there just swimming or hiking... "How do we know you didn't take anything?". Too authoritarian for my tastes.
@@DeathProductions200 It should be made easier, definitely. I used to dive in one of our local lakes with friends and the trash we'd see at the bottom is just disgusting. Batteries, nets, car parts, tangled up plastic crap , etc.. cause far more harm than taking out an arrowhead.
@@DollyTheLlama exactly. Now we should have permits for stuff like that so we have a team that cares and follows the rules. But we shouldn't be giving anyone citations for trying to remove trash. Especially a gun, that for all we know could be a murder weapon that links to solving a case. Plus the lead in the bullets could cause lead salts to form in the water, thus killing wildlife. We should absolutely allow citizens to remove trash.
Using the same logic then no one should be able to drive a vehicle because how do we know you're not going to run over someone?
And definitely throw away all your steak knives
This is why people have stopped helping. People fear the repercussions of being good samaritans or helpful.
No good deed goes unpunished.
"Evil is seen as Good...
Good is seen as Evil"}¡
It's true, now people sue you for pulling them out of a burning car or arrested because you were concern for someone.
It's been the case in Europe. no one helps because historically. No good deed has ever gone unpunished.
This was honestly ridiculous, he could have ended this whole argument by asking am I diving illegally/ am I being detained. If the answer was no for both he could have just continued what he was doing.
I love this channel, one of the few audit channels that is straight up honest and unbiased
Yea the other ones border on soverign citizen rhetoric
This reminds me of a video by another diver that was also cleaning a river and he found explosives. The bomb squad was called. The park and some streets surrounding it was closed until the explosives were removed. He goes back a couple of weeks later, and finds more explosives. The bomb squad was called again, and park was closed. Some times passes and the guy goes for a third time and find more explosives, and the devices he finds were substantially more dangerous than the previous devices (after his previous encounters with the bomb squad, he was given a brief explanation on how to recognize how risky a device is). The bomb squad was called a third time, the members of the bomb squad were ok with the call and acted like professionals, but the police officers securing the area, were pissed and started harassing the diver. Also, some of the neighbors were annoyed and the shop next to the parking lot where the bombs were collected, was threating to put a restraining order on the diver because they prefer to have armed explosive devices in their backyard than to lose a couple of hours worth of sales.
*Officer pulls you over*
You: “Everything alright?”
*Officer: “Your car is capable of going over the speed limit right”*
You: “Yes but I’m not speeding”
*Officer: “Well how do we know that”*
You: “I haven’t been speeding”
*Officer: “I know but you’re capable of speeding”*
You: “Well what should I do then”
*Officer: “I’ll have a car patrol you every time you drive just to make sure”*
😆😆
hit the nail on the head with this analogy
Yeah.. tell me about it. Just what is that bimbo's point? What is she saying is supposed to be done? What is she driving at?
Innocent until proven guilty... she has no notion of what that means?
If you're asking "How do [we] know that?" that means you do *not* know that, and why you do *not* know that is because there is *no evidence* of that.
There is no evidence of that because I told you right off the bat that what we remove is trash. Until there is evidence proving me guilty, you should know that the presumption of innocence applies.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that
Her main point, which she didn’t articulate well, was that he could have unknowingly removed artifacts. So what may have seemed to be trash on face value, could potentially be historical. And he wouldn’t know, in some cases, whether it was actually trash or not. In your analogy, if you looked up from your speedometer and went down a hill at the same time, you could have unintentionally gone over the speed limit. You would be very reasonable to assert that you DIDNT go over the speed limit, because to your knowledge, you hadn’t. But everybody makes mistakes, and she was just explaining to him the potential harm in assuming things are trash.
Somehow i doubt an AR-15 pulled from a river is "of historical value"
instead now thx to this mall cop, it will remain in the water so that it's historical artificial coating, metal properties, carbon, lead, and gunpowder residue will pollute the river. How historic
This ranger baffled me..
@@mackenzieowens161 Sorry man but park rangers aren’t “mall cops”. They’re federal agents.
@@1aml3g3nd13 I guess you missed the part where it's called insulting somebody's lack of ability by comparing them to an inferior being or object.
No but it could be used in a criminal investigation and legally should be turned into the cops. The cop should’ve worked with the diver and not against him
"this is the second time i've had to reclaim my property from you"
"that belongs in a museum!"
"Yes, Ma'am, you control the water of the river. I'm not removing any of your water. I'm removing trash and gold nuggets under your water. Good day."
he should follow her directions and call for every thing he finds. "I found a partially crushed can of busch lite, is it of historical value?"
🤣 yes!
Malicious Compliance is always acceptable.
That's exactly what I would do up to the point where they threaten to arrest me for wasting police time then make them back track on those dumb orders of reporting everything that's found for "historical value".
And coming from somebody who fishes on the Chattahoochee pretty regular I can tell you there's a lot of them
I would do that too. !!! Showing garbage one at a time.
4:58 oh my god, the lady is seriously trying to convince him that the trash he finds sometimes has "historical value" and should be left in the river where it belongs to. She's a park ranger telling a citizen to let the trash in the river and NOT clean it.
Guy says he's fished out over 70 guns. The real thing the cops are saying here 'we don't want you solving crimes we couldnt/wouldnt"
So her argument is that he MIGHT break the law? 🤷♂️
I mean sure, if he does that, hold him accountable.
But until then, he's just a guy removing garbage from the waterway.
She's trying to flex her limited power as a park ranger.
Common sense really isn't a strong suit for the vast majority of law enforcement. In some cases common sense is looked at as a lethal threat to law enforcement.
I recommend watching his/their videos. They're entertaining. I don't feel they're staged either like some magnet fishing channels seem to be.
Dude 💯
Right. 🤦🏼♂️
"Before we dive into the interaction"
Smooth...
Opes, ya beat me to it, LOL!
He does say "dive" a lot anyway, though.
Caught that lol
@@HelloKittyFanMan. indeed, possibly punintentional.
@@LordBillington42: Haha, "punintentional"! Oh, that was bad, LOL! 😁
"I found Jimmy Hoffa!" "Put him back."
"You said you found a gun..." "That was a mortar." ?!! MORTAR
"Theres a risk you could remove historical objects from the water"
"What historical objects could be in the water"
"We don't know"
If he found some muskets and Civil War era pistols, those would be historical objects. But his guns were way too fresh to reach that threshold.
Everyone knows stargate can be found in a certain river
You do understand at National parks it's illegal to remove anything from the parks that you did not bring yourself or buy at a gift shop if there is one. There are exceptions some places make like allowing berry picking but other than that you are not allowed to remove anything at all. The main issue is the common sense through. its letter of the law vs. spirit of the law and Rangers should use some kind of common sense
@@truffleshuffle009 but they literally pick up garbage. Things that have been dumped.
I'm pretty sure nobody is gonna confuse a Glock &AR for a flintlock pistol or musket.
Citizen: tries to be decent human being
Officer: time to show this punk whos boss
LEO's are america's biggest gang, surprised they didn't try to seize all of his dive equipment and car under civil forfeiture.
@@knolsey they are but there are still decent people sprinkled throughout the departments. The word police comes from the Greek word polis; meaning city. So they're men of the city, truly if we're being honest as a whole they do more good than bad.
The problem is every now and again you get some douchebag like this ranger.
Common sense and the general consensus of what is ethical should be used more often.
@@GuardDog42 idk if we can say they do more good than bad. Many departments are not stopping or preventing crime or solving them for that matter.
The smaller the scope of someone's authority the more adamant they are about asserting it. Petty tyrants
@@TheCastedone where'd you get that little factoid from?
Ranger: You cannot take objects out of the water because it might be historic.
Depths: _pulls 2023 RUGER AR556 with red dot scope, extended mag, out of the river_
Ranger: DON'T DISTURB IT! We're going to assess the historical validity of this item. Leave it where is it.... forever.
I'm 99.9% sure that park ranger lady threw a box of expired donuts in the river. That is why she made such a fuzz about this dude cleaning up the damn river. 🤣
Guy gets an A++ for being an amazing human being, he's not an auditor but a human enjoying life and being kind to his environment
And getting harassed for it!!
hes right below your comment lol
@cj sheik welcome to America. Look at current politics. Straight lies promoting being shitty humans
"How am I supposed to know you didn't remove items of historical value?"
How is anyone supposed to know the park ranger isn't removing items of historical value? How is anyone supposed to know anything that didn't happen?
Peak intelligence
There are known knowns, and there are known unknowns, but there are also unknown unknowns. Things we don't know that we don't know we don't know!
@@FenrisZAmarok
"What?"
@@alexanderthegreat5649 yes minister.
You just sit tight Jake, I just called the FBI I informed them that I do not know if you have been removing items of historical values.
Yesterday I saw two kids riding a bike, and non of them could tell me if Jake Routh had or hadn't been removing items, I didn't even need to talk to them to be unsure if you had been doing such plausible activities. Ya dun Goofed Jake!
This bothered me most. You're supposed to have some evidence of illegal activity. You can't just say "well they might be doing something wrong". Very frustrating.
An armed park ranger is accusing this young man of a arbitrary possible crime. She seems jealous that he has helped actual law enforcement when she pathetically wanted credit.
Uh what? She is a park ranger, they are law enforcement. Also she has a sidearm, so does the ranger next to her. Might want to rethink that one.
@@Xsi9mm "unarmed" was auto complete typo. Now reads "An armed". Thanks for heads up.
"How do I know that you're not guilty until proven innocent"
Doesn’t deserve the grade you gave her. She basically saying “stop that, you could be breaking the law, but I have no way of knowing though.” that applies to EVERYTHING we do.
Hey, don't say things that make sense and are totally and absolutely logic... That is too much to process to overexcited authorities...
Yeah that was a bit ridiculous
When you consider how George Floyd and Briana Talyor were treated, she did okay.
@@axer3515 you mean drug additcs who died because of their own fault and not police?
@@20tigerpaw20 don't remember drugs kneeling on his neck
"I didn't remove anything of historical value"
"How are we suposed to know that?"
Lady, you are suposed to investigate if you wanna know that, and I do not have to help you one bit in your investigation
My thoughts exactly
Yea she is saying that he’s guilty until he can prove he is innocent
@@Fireball006 exactly she doesn't have a warrant or even probable cause for an investigation.
The way she protesting sounds like- she through something in the river she doesn't want found
It's fair to say that if they don't want you finding and reporting dumped firearms, that they very well might be the ones doing the dumping and are actively trying to conceal their activities.
She’s playing the good ol’ boy game of “What if?” She’s just looking for something to be mad about when his intentions are pure and could even help police officers solve crimes and cold cases.
So, she's supposed to have psychic abilities to know that his intentions are pure?
@@andrewvelonis5940 She's supposed to use her goddamned head
@@andrewvelonis5940 guilty until proven innocent as they say
@@andrewvelonis5940 didn’t she say she had seen his videos? So she knows that he’s not doing anything wrong, just wants to karen
@@andrewvelonis5940 we live in a country where it is innocent until proven guilty she’s not supposed to be psychic she just needs to assess the situation if nothing illegal is actually being done the what if’s don’t apply. By that logic anybody to get in trouble for anything just because of what if they were doing something wrong.
Her demeanor is one of aggression. It seems as though she's on a power trip.
Wow imagine a woman on a power trip. That seems completely.....NATURAL!
@@plantfeeder6677 Aweee who hurt you.
Ahh, yes, the national treasure of a beer can from a year ago.
That stud just couldn’t wait to find a reason to get pissed about something lol
9:46 the way she laughs and looks to the police officer for validation, meanwhile the officer couldn’t give less of a shit about her. Great frame to freeze on
That's because the guy agrees with the diver but has to side with the Karen.
@@tgatt5759 Yeah, you can constantly see him look at her like "Are you sure? ...I want to step in, but I'm not a ranger and don't really know the rules here. I guess this must be how it works..? Weird..."
Officers like her seem to relish giving the everyday citizen a hard time & assuming the worst while treating them like shit. And they wonder why some people despise law enforcement...unreal.
I've been harassed by a ranger for picking up trash at the beach ( something I do almost everyday). He yelled at me with his hand on his weapon.
I just feel like cop logic is so flawed.
he sais "im picking up trash, not artifact"
and she like
"we dont know that"
Like bitch how do you know if the people driving by aren't smoking blunts in their car,
how do you if the helicopter pilot flying the helicopter overhead doesnt have an expired helicopter flyers license
how the FUCK do WE know if you're a cop or not?
I thought the sky was going to fall at any minute.
We were cleaning up a lakeshore in the Okanagan valley years ago and an officer came up and hassled us because we had stopped for lunch and had a beer. The haha was that we were actually on private land having our break right next to the parkland beach, and when the officer tried to exert his authority we refused to step back over onto the public property and made him carry away a whole truckload of full trash bags because of his threats of duress. The officer had to later issue an apology, as did the deputy minister who had approved our charitable clubs cleaning of said beach.
Some people aren't even given a fair chance to prove themselves to federal law enforcement who stopped them for "matching the description" of a wanted felon. Then get asssulted and arrested when they commit contempt of cop, even if unknowingly because the feds are acting undercover.
Park Ranger: "You know, I'm something of an archaeologist myself..."
The hiring qualifications for this agency clearly need revision.
this and similar agency should be cleaned... Cause: what if they ues all of our arms against us?
That kid with a youtube channel cleaning water ways contributes more to society than that witch as a cop
This our tax dollars hard at work
Park Ranger: "Don't enter your car"
Diver: "Why?"
Park Ranger: "Because you 'might' be in a crash"
Diver: Do not enter a McDonalds
Park Ranger: Why?
Diver: Because you -might- will get a heart attack
Park Ranger: do not stand by the toilet.
Diver:Why??
Park Ranger: because you might go peepee, the toilet isn't ours but the water is.
Diver: ......this is making me emotional.
They should be thanking him and saying good job
that ranger has something hidden she doesnt want found
shes a killer why else would she be so hell bent on stopping this dude
She was not respectfully debating, she was laughing at him and turning away witch is body language for rolling eyes.
@@2031976vikrant I'm sure those fat people have plenty of excuses to get where they are though.
@@NetherHawk i don't even understand why people are treating fat people as a different race. It's not something out of your control, and you should be actively encouraged to change it, hence why "fat-shaming" can be very beneficial for the person being shamed. Yet again, we are talking about people's feelings here, and if I'm not gonna tell them that "they are ok how they are, as a 400 lbs whale", I shouldn't even bother talking about it.
@@pantommy Out of respect I wouldn't call someone a fatass straight up, but I'd never accept them as healthy. Any overweight friends I have I always encourage to lose weight. It's a problem that only comes from laziness, gluttony and a lack of self-control so it should definitely be seen as "shameful" as they completely disregard their own wellbeing.
@@2031976vikrant to be fair you were the 1 being a douche. Saying she had a lot of body was a factual statement, a funny 1 but still factual. If you don't like honesty you should avoid randos on the internet.
Everybody has the right to an opinion but nobody has the right to never be offended.
If you're offended by such a small comment then you're probably a fatty yourself and it's in your hands to do something about it.
Good luck I'm cheering for your success! 👊
Which*
He needs to call ever time he takes out a pop can, they will leave him alone soon.
This is a prime malicious compliance opportunity
PRIME malicious compliance
I heartily endorse this. He definitely needs to call HER every single time he finds ANYthing.
Well now all criminals know where to find their evidence. These security guards will protect it. 😂
She's arguing in bad faith, essentially saying he is guilty until proven innocent. She should 100% be fired
"I'm your worst nightmare: A Karen with a badge"
Omg 😱 Karen with a badge, terror just surged through my body at the idea of that
She looks like a lesbian Karen with a badge🤔
Those are the real DoMeStIc TeRrOrIsTs
Absolutely.
Using the name Karen is racist.
She's arguing that he's breaking the law, by potentially, in the future, breaking the law. I'm sorry but cops that use straw man arguments are gross
I agree with the essence of your comment, but it's not a strawman argument. if it's anything, it might be a slippery slope argument.
@@Chris.Ellsworth i believe its the circular logic actually
She's not saying that he's breaking the law right now, she's just warning him that in the future he might end up breaking the law if he removed something historical from the water.
@@alphahale7668 Doing God's work, she is.
Yea she just wants to feel special.
She literally said you can go in the river, you can get guns, you can pick up trash but you can't pick up artifacts... he says he's never done that, she says she has no way of knowing that!!! Now I'm confused what she actually wants
Her logic was clouded by cholesterol
Just for her hypothetical scenario to be acknowledged. She wanted him to say yes sorry we didn't think of that and we agree with you that artifacts should be left alone.
She was super serious about a non existent crime and wanted to drill it into him. It should have been a warning to not take things out that could harm the surrounding environment and move along.
So she admits she has no evidence of him doing anything wrong. Only that he "could" do something wrong.
@@_DMAC She even said she has seen his videos....open and closed case
@@Wyoutside 😂💀
“I’ve found over 70 guns and turned them into the police, and also found and turned over a morter once”
Dude ought to be freaking PAID.
"You've removed things of historic value". Instantly after "you witnessed this? The objects in question are historic? "
“No good deed goes unpunished”
“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions”
I bet she went home and broke down the entire situation from her perspective to her cats as soon as she got home.
And all 6 of them ignored her.
She then ate the cats.
😂
She's a 'dog' person. She gets her teeth into something, and won't let go.
And her 60 year old black boyfriend
Oh how many arrowheads we have found and drilled holes in over the last 30 years or so from my local State park... lol.
She is so excited to try and catch someone doing something is disgusting.