I'm lead consume, blast last, and my boss is a consume last INTJ. He does exactly this - he always interrupts me during my slide presentations to ask questions and to think out loud, repeating some of the things I present back to the room as if they were profound realizations of his own. He then asks questions that I ALWAYS have slides prepared for later in the slide deck of the presentation, it's just that he never lets me get there organically before feeling the need to ask.
It's very comforting to see a couple more psychos. I feel so seen and understood. I'm not alone 😂 The Blast last description was very helpful in this clip. I think I do this because, yes, I'm inputting data into my mind files, and it's very distracting, and yet I want the other to know I'm still connecting and following their story. So I summarize and regurgitate it like a cat bringing a trophy to its friend to show affection. And I'm doing it in this post again! I feel seen. Thank you!
That burning inside feeling... I soooo get that! This is why I have to have something to do with my hands (usually knitting or crocheting) if I know I'm going to have to sit and listen to a long, not-very-engaging talk/presentation. I'll be squirming in my seat otherwise. I also find that if I"m reading a really good article or book and I hit a section that needs sorting/processing, I sometimes have to put the article down for awhile until my brain's had enough time to do the processing. Then I can go back to it. I can't just keep taking the information in if I wasn't able to neatly sort it into its proper box as it entered my brain.
I'm so glad you said you struggle to visualise, as I'm very sure I'm lead Ni but had this assumption that I should be able to visualise. The conception of "this is a heavy point" resonated, yes, I process like that too - this information is pertinent, the rest is fluff and is immediately discarded.
As fiSi, sleep first, visual, infp, I do all sorts of looking around while listening and thinking...people feel offended that I'm "not" paying attention by looking straight at them...but I'm organizing my thoughts.
Ye, as an Ni/Ti guy, I’ve always tried to find the best mindset to deal with the chaos. Should I always be emotionless or rather motivated or just stop caring altogether? My Ni resolution has been that I just have to man up: life will always throw some bs your way, you just got to handle it as a man. My type’s fear is that I can’t get things working as they should (NT Sleep fails) and so the tribe starts valuing me less. But now I realize that the only respectable way to lose is to go down swinging, and that’s given me some inner peace. Not easy being f-Ni and SC though because I’m always forgetting and reverifying this worldview. Forgive the monologue as well, I have enough Fe to know no one really cares, but hopefully someone else finds it interesting too.
I don't think I am a lead blast (in fast it is probably last), but I will often notice myself doing the "shifting eyes" when someone is lecturing or spewing at me and I am trying to distribute the meaning of what they are saying. I am unsure whether it is the process or being talked at, but I almost always get a headache when this happens. I do often feel the desire to make things concise, but more often I do not finish the process or establish a category so then everything ends up jumbled and chaotic. I think I will try talking it out instead of waiting to respond until I have it all worked out in my head or on paper (my usual approach), then maybe I won't get a headache.
Man, I have been processing how sleep last and consume last can get into the same kind of life issues. At work, I don't have to worry about being distracted by le smart phone, but I will be calling a client and opening their account and I will want to understand everything that might be going on with that account's history, beyond the usefulness of the call. I won't want to blast the call until I consume all the info on the client's account. It is this insane, stalker like addiction to just knowing everything that might be going on before doing the work. So people from far away just see a distracted idiot and can't tell the different from some consume last and myself, but we are distracted by very different things.
Dave: "Can I get this down to 2?" Also Dave: develops a system that expands from 16 personalty types to 512. (which funnily enough is completely based of binary concepts)
Do people shift directions on their animals over time? Or due to a circumstance? Or possibly one type can be upside down while immature trying to force a self image, then learning, and running out of energy to revert to the real animals? (Of course all from the idiot’s own perspective).
I believe the guy on the right with the red tie is an INFP. In other typology system they would say the INTJ is just ignoring Ne. But Dave understanding seems to get him to the same place...I guess
+@@Hyperdriveuk Honestly you can. It's harder and it's likely not accurate so you'd have to double-check it later, but the person you responded to wasn't stating a conclusion, they were talking about their hypothesis. There's a difference.
@@Brickwilliams not every suggestion to look into something is turning everything into a medical condition, gee. If I recommend you to watch a movie it doesn't mean I sit you on a chair, tie you to it and force you to watch it.
@@einsame_Maria you’re suggesting to look into a medical condition that probably doesn’t need to be a medical condition. it is in our institutions plans to make us feel medically inclined, mentally ill, etc. same reason why they diagnose anxiety as a mental illness and anyone who tells a doctor they have anxiety, which we all do, will be labeled with a mental illness and given drugs. So just know what you’re doing when you suggest that someone is medically inclined, because they probably aren’t
@@Brickwilliams looking into something is not automatically being diagnosed. Do you think maybe you're being a tad bit paranoid? Not all anxiety is treated with medication, but some has to be because it's debilitating and prevents people from living their life to the fullest. To me, it seems that you might have deep rooted stigma against mental illnesses and conditions. It doesn't have to be like this. You really jumped from "hey, have you heard about this condition?" To "dave, I know you have it and you have to be treated!!!" Whatever it is you saw in my comment wasn't in it, if it makes you feel better
“Is this your listening face?” Lmao!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's funny watching Dave react to two others Daves
I'm lead consume, blast last, and my boss is a consume last INTJ. He does exactly this - he always interrupts me during my slide presentations to ask questions and to think out loud, repeating some of the things I present back to the room as if they were profound realizations of his own. He then asks questions that I ALWAYS have slides prepared for later in the slide deck of the presentation, it's just that he never lets me get there organically before feeling the need to ask.
So Ni is calm bc it can shove all the chaos that he can't control into the garage.
It's very comforting to see a couple more psychos. I feel so seen and understood. I'm not alone 😂
The Blast last description was very helpful in this clip. I think I do this because, yes, I'm inputting data into my mind files, and it's very distracting, and yet I want the other to know I'm still connecting and following their story. So I summarize and regurgitate it like a cat bringing a trophy to its friend to show affection.
And I'm doing it in this post again! I feel seen. Thank you!
That burning inside feeling... I soooo get that! This is why I have to have something to do with my hands (usually knitting or crocheting) if I know I'm going to have to sit and listen to a long, not-very-engaging talk/presentation. I'll be squirming in my seat otherwise.
I also find that if I"m reading a really good article or book and I hit a section that needs sorting/processing, I sometimes have to put the article down for awhile until my brain's had enough time to do the processing. Then I can go back to it. I can't just keep taking the information in if I wasn't able to neatly sort it into its proper box as it entered my brain.
There is only one ultimate category, and that category is the universe.
I'm so glad you said you struggle to visualise, as I'm very sure I'm lead Ni but had this assumption that I should be able to visualise. The conception of "this is a heavy point" resonated, yes, I process like that too - this information is pertinent, the rest is fluff and is immediately discarded.
As fiSi, sleep first, visual, infp, I do all sorts of looking around while listening and thinking...people feel offended that I'm "not" paying attention by looking straight at them...but I'm organizing my thoughts.
Omg nooooo, I just realized I do that repeat back to organize the information thing. Holy crap I'm annoying
Yeah man I notice this all the time, people are always thrown off by my shifting eyes but it’s an urge I can hardly control, it’s like I need to do it
I definitely can relate to the "not viewing anything at all" of audio modality
Ye, as an Ni/Ti guy, I’ve always tried to find the best mindset to deal with the chaos. Should I always be emotionless or rather motivated or just stop caring altogether?
My Ni resolution has been that I just have to man up: life will always throw some bs your way, you just got to handle it as a man. My type’s fear is that I can’t get things working as they should (NT Sleep fails) and so the tribe starts valuing me less. But now I realize that the only respectable way to lose is to go down swinging, and that’s given me some inner peace.
Not easy being f-Ni and SC though because I’m always forgetting and reverifying this worldview. Forgive the monologue as well, I have enough Fe to know no one really cares, but hopefully someone else finds it interesting too.
This is gold!
I don't think I am a lead blast (in fast it is probably last), but I will often notice myself doing the "shifting eyes" when someone is lecturing or spewing at me and I am trying to distribute the meaning of what they are saying. I am unsure whether it is the process or being talked at, but I almost always get a headache when this happens. I do often feel the desire to make things concise, but more often I do not finish the process or establish a category so then everything ends up jumbled and chaotic. I think I will try talking it out instead of waiting to respond until I have it all worked out in my head or on paper (my usual approach), then maybe I won't get a headache.
Man, I have been processing how sleep last and consume last can get into the same kind of life issues. At work, I don't have to worry about being distracted by le smart phone, but I will be calling a client and opening their account and I will want to understand everything that might be going on with that account's history, beyond the usefulness of the call. I won't want to blast the call until I consume all the info on the client's account. It is this insane, stalker like addiction to just knowing everything that might be going on before doing the work. So people from far away just see a distracted idiot and can't tell the different from some consume last and myself, but we are distracted by very different things.
I don’t know if I’m consume 3rd or last but I definitely relate on some of these points😅😂
hey can you do more ISTP boost my ISTP ego
It does seem to make people get to the damn point though
Dave: "Can I get this down to 2?"
Also Dave: develops a system that expands from 16 personalty types to 512.
(which funnily enough is completely based of binary concepts)
Do people shift directions on their animals over time?
Or due to a circumstance?
Or possibly one type can be upside down while immature trying to force a self image, then learning, and running out of energy to revert to the real animals?
(Of course all from the idiot’s own perspective).
I believe the guy on the right with the red tie is an INFP. In other typology system they would say the INTJ is just ignoring Ne. But Dave understanding seems to get him to the same place...I guess
You managed to come to the conclusion of INFP with 10 seconds of talking! That's very impressive.
@@Hyperdriveuk Have as much experience as me an you can quick type too lol.
+@@Hyperdriveuk Honestly you can. It's harder and it's likely not accurate so you'd have to double-check it later, but the person you responded to wasn't stating a conclusion, they were talking about their hypothesis. There's a difference.
I wonder, have you ever heard about aphantasia? Inability to visualise
He said he used to be able to do it- ergo high chance of that been a no.
Not everything should be turned into a medical condition
@@Brickwilliams not every suggestion to look into something is turning everything into a medical condition, gee.
If I recommend you to watch a movie it doesn't mean I sit you on a chair, tie you to it and force you to watch it.
@@einsame_Maria you’re suggesting to look into a medical condition that probably doesn’t need to be a medical condition. it is in our institutions plans to make us feel medically inclined, mentally ill, etc. same reason why they diagnose anxiety as a mental illness and anyone who tells a doctor they have anxiety, which we all do, will be labeled with a mental illness and given drugs. So just know what you’re doing when you suggest that someone is medically inclined, because they probably aren’t
@@Brickwilliams looking into something is not automatically being diagnosed. Do you think maybe you're being a tad bit paranoid? Not all anxiety is treated with medication, but some has to be because it's debilitating and prevents people from living their life to the fullest. To me, it seems that you might have deep rooted stigma against mental illnesses and conditions. It doesn't have to be like this. You really jumped from "hey, have you heard about this condition?" To "dave, I know you have it and you have to be treated!!!"
Whatever it is you saw in my comment wasn't in it, if it makes you feel better
😂😂😂
Pseudolistening and reflective listening🙂
Elon Musk is a double observer Oi? What type is he? I thought he was Ni-Fi too...
@@DeclanBJJ Thank you!!