Can I just say I love that you guys are flipping the script a little. Your greatest content is educational, funny and looks ridiculously fun. Like having skateboarding dreams from childhood recreated on RUclips.
I learned my boardslides on a wooden rail, I had made a little 3 foot box out of scrap 2x4s and plywood, I then stacked 4 2x4s on top of eachother. This video just reminded me of a fundamental memory thank you braille
I’m a carpenter and I love watching you work, Gabe. Check out a reasonable flux core welder and move into some steel for these things. Nigel cracks me up…😂😂😂!
@@LordBelakor, I would consider a nice length of oak or maple but it gets pricey. It looks like Gabe used round handrail for the surface and that’s likely pine. It seems to have worked great except for the 2X foot that came loose. A few tweaks and I bet it would last a long time!
I do both metal fab and carpentry I don't think a welder would be worth it for them since it's so easy to just buy an already built steel rail. It would open up a lot more options though. It's pricey, but it would've been cool if they bought an oak hand rail to use.
Not one to leave a comment, but real recognize real!! Just paused at 4:41, this thing looks sweet!! Love the channel, love all y’all!! Sweet build Gabe!!
Add some 90º wedges to the legs for lateral support. Get screws that are about an inch longer, and maybe add a rubber non slip pad of some type on bottom to prevent sliding
Sick job Gabe. Idea 1) Dip the screws in wood glue while constructing it, and try a wooden railing with thick varnish or epoxy coating. Content Idea: make a grind rail using pvc pipes. They come in many thicknesses and I'm sure with your skills, You can make it happen.
My friend in my teen years made a wooden rail by gluing two long pieces of wood together. He told me that his friend did a 50-50 and that the trucks completely stuck on the rail. Because of this, he fell completely forward and his face slammed on the rail, which caused it to turn red according to my friend. They laughed it off too from what I remember my friend said. I know nothing about woodworking, but it seems like a wood rail is feasible for grinds only if the wood is that glossy slippery kind with a finish on it or something to stop the trucks from sticking. It seems the wood would have to be hard and sturdy wood too so the trucks would not dig in to the rail and so it would not chip. I have no idea how easy or possible that is to make, especially on a large scale. At any rate, I enjoyed watching and hope to see more interesting creations from the "Braille Laboratory".
Pretty sure we all already knew this. But Gabe is a GENIUS! Amazing build my man. Really enjoyed this video 👏🏾. Now let's get a longer version of this wooden rail going 😂
ALL SERIOUSNESS GET HARD WOOD DOWLS OR EXOTIC WOOD ITS SUPER HARD AND HAS NATURAL OILS WITHIN Hickory, maple, red oak, ebony You may be able to grind ebony
As a kid a buying metal rail was too expensive and I had no clue how to work with metal to build my own so we made rails similar to this. Basically a long 2x4 for the main part with short 2x4s drilled perpendicular to the bottom so it wouldn’t tip. Then for the rail we used PVC. Drilled holes every 2-3 feet in the top of the pvc and then screwed that onto the 2x4. Worked great for grinds with inline skates and decent for skateboard slides. Grinds on a skateboard not so much. You’d catch on the holes in the PVC or sometimes just explode the PVC altogether. Haha.
I made a wooden rail with some right-angled iron bars screwed into the top to make it grind and slide like a square rail, because I didn't have the tools to make a metal one. Worked like a charm!
Adding some rubber to the bottom of the legs would help with it moving around. also use 4x4s for the legs so they are solid and use lag bolts instead of screws. Another idea could be to get big enough pvc or abs cut it long ways and cap it. The best thing would be to get a piece of channel to cover it for doing grinds instead of slides.
Future woodworking advice: Rip cuts (cutting along the grain) are best done with a table saw and crosscuts (cutting through the grain) is best done with a miter saw. This is a lesson I learned well into my woodworking hobby when I had a chunk of wood from a table saw thump me right in the sternum because I was tying to freehand a crosscut...way scarier than a popsicle from a heelflip imo hahah
Skateboarding has always been about DIY and using whatever materials you have available. I had a wood rail in my garage in the ‘90s. Worked fine for slides and stalls, not so much for grinds.
Reminds me of the old skate parks with the wooden rails and pvc cope. When I was 14, our park only had wooden rails and all wood ramps in a parking lot of an old grocery store.
This is a perfect idea for beginners. It's easy to build, low-cost materials, and if they find out skateboarding just ain't for them, they're not. stuck trying to resale an $800 rail. I'd say Gabe killed it on this one! 🤘💙b💙🤘
Hey Gabe, try a half lap joint for the feet and put the screws in from the side, might help it last longer. I love doing board slides and that looks like a ton of fun!
Version 2.0 I suggest you use a hardwood 4x4 fence post for the legs as well as the rail portion. You will want to actually shape the top of the 4x4 but leave the bottom flat so it can attach to the legs of course. And some 2x4 or 1x4 stabilizers for the legs of course. Then you have to actually sand the top of the rail down properly (going from lower grit to higher grit) and then put some sealant on it and then polish it with furniture polish. You might even be able to get a light-footed grind on the trucks with that.
There's a species of wood that's supposedly the hardest and densest, Lignum Vitae. There's also a treatment that can be done to densify existing timber that involves chemical treatments along with high pressure compression. So in theory, you can make a wooden rail that's stronger than steel ones. I hope someone from the fanbase has access to these methods and materials, eventually making a rail that will absolutely survive your guys' tests. It also needs to be said that the legs need some more support to prevent it from falling apart. As for the actual rail, it might need to be thicker to support more weight. I also saw a comment about treating the wood with heat and wax to give it a smoother feel.
Lignum Vitae so dense it doesn't usually float. But you got there first! Boxwood also is fairly tough I thought? Although that might be in the end grain rather than longitudinal strength?
In the 90s everyone made wooden rails, and then one day it happened, someone's dad welded up a metal one and it was glorious, and eventually someone steal it for snowboarding...
that was awesome to watch. as a kid my dad made me a rail just with a 2X4 and it worked really well just like this. jumping into 5050 stuck just like yours but a roll on 5050 was doable. I bet you guys could get it on this
Wooden rail is fully OK.. you just NEED metal on top. Either a metal tube cut in half, or U-Channel metal attached somehow (side bolts). Just trying to slide on wood will work for a day (add wax). Ain't gonna hold up without metal on the top grinding bar though. Check this out... very stable metal rail, but on top 2 of those wooden bars that seem so slippery. Will need to be replaced often, but they're cheap.
We build a small ramp with a wooden supposed grind rail off it when we were children, probably around 1991? I don't know. I don't remember it working well, although it was no worse than trying to grind and slide British curbs which, if you grew up without a skate park like most of us in the UK back then. In fact, the skate parks manual pads and such offer almost no resistance and it's difficult for me to make the transition for some tricks.
I think if you grind the trucks up and down the wooden rails with your hands with pressure, it'll compress the wood and I feel the wood will only compress so much. So once it's compressed grinding across it might be better, it might not dig in as much.
Angle braces are your friend. And the reason it butters up so nice is because the wood grain can soak up the wax whereas with metal, you just get a topcoat.
I noticed the rail spins on the floor. This might be one for Ricky: start board slide, the rail is rotated 180 degrees, slide off rail, roll out to where you started.
You should put some risers. Grip, rubber, pads, or something under the raill to help it from sliding or moving on the floor, but the build is fumominal
just had an idea maybe you can use recycled soda cans to line the railyou can screw them in on the underside.. may be alot of work but its a super budget grind rail
Being a broke skater my first rail was made from round wood fenceposts and 2x4s it taught me board slides….. so this hits home…. I also used literally bar soap for wax
Hmmm, I suggested the "don't break the" tournament with a bunch of identical cheap decks (still waiting on that, hint hint 🤣) but what about a "don't break the" video where it's the obstacle what you are trying not to break? A flimsy ramp could work (maybe every round remove a rib from the frame) but a wooden rail would lend itself quite well to the idea as the more you grind it, the more damage it 'wood' (ha!) receive, like build it with supports on the ends and maybe one in the middle so there are plenty of unsupported spans that could eventually snap. You wood (I'll stop 🤣) have to get the diameter of the wood for the rail just right so it's strong enough to skate, but thin enough that with some damage eventually it would break...
Gave make the middle support like a half inch smaller then the end ones maybe more or less depending the spot it’s sitting I like to help ur really doing better n better gabe!
A friend had one like that but with 2 pieces of pvc pipe instead and I learned a lot of early grinds and slides on that thing. No skateparks so we had to make stuff 🤷♂️
Gabe and team… Don’t you know any Old School skater??? I mean, really old school… like 80’s skater. That’s how we started (actually discovering) rail slides!!! With wood and no wax!!! Hahahaha. Kudos for your great work guys!!!
Breh pvc instead of the wooden Dowell rod type stuff, ive made rails like this since back in the 80s ... Just use tapered wood screws and screw the pvc to a 4x4 ...
What if you do the same concept but have a little gap between the two wooden rails instead of having them touch, to give more room for the kingpin? Though you might need slightly thinner rails so it's not too wide for the trucks.
Metal skateboard VS wooden rail would be dope. Reverse them roles!
Yes!
This 👌
I'm pretty sure the metal board would dig into the wood like crazy. Probably wouldn't even slide
@@mr-mac85Only one way to find out
Cool
My 7 year old daughter screaming, “Bodied” from the backseat when Glo goes down is a highlight of my day. She passes the vibe check
Reading that highlighted my day🤘
Lol, I said finish him!
Can I just say I love that you guys are flipping the script a little. Your greatest content is educational, funny and looks ridiculously fun. Like having skateboarding dreams from childhood recreated on RUclips.
Thanks so much
I learned my boardslides on a wooden rail, I had made a little 3 foot box out of scrap 2x4s and plywood, I then stacked 4 2x4s on top of eachother. This video just reminded me of a fundamental memory thank you braille
Wow awesome! Keep skating 🔥
Nigel’s energy is great, all you guys have dope energy
Thank you
Y'all killed it in this episode. So rad
The pure joy and hype was felt! Congrats
Thanks
I’m a carpenter and I love watching you work, Gabe. Check out a reasonable flux core welder and move into some steel for these things. Nigel cracks me up…😂😂😂!
@@LordBelakor, I would consider a nice length of oak or maple but it gets pricey. It looks like Gabe used round handrail for the surface and that’s likely pine. It seems to have worked great except for the 2X foot that came loose. A few tweaks and I bet it would last a long time!
I do both metal fab and carpentry I don't think a welder would be worth it for them since it's so easy to just buy an already built steel rail. It would open up a lot more options though. It's pricey, but it would've been cool if they bought an oak hand rail to use.
HUGE success!!
So proud of you Gabe!
Great video guys, loved the energy. & loved the great build Gabe. Nice shreddin’ boys.
Glad you enjoyed!
Not one to leave a comment, but real recognize real!! Just paused at 4:41, this thing looks sweet!! Love the channel, love all y’all!! Sweet build Gabe!!
Add some 90º wedges to the legs for lateral support. Get screws that are about an inch longer, and maybe add a rubber non slip pad of some type on bottom to prevent sliding
My exact thoughts
Great start to my day...thanks Braille...😂😂 amazing skating and tons of laughs
Glad you enjoyed it!
You guys never disappoint, what a fun vid, nice work Gabe!!! That rail is fire!🔥
Glad you liked it!!
I love the making process! Gabe is a madman !
Sick job Gabe. Idea 1) Dip the screws in wood glue while constructing it, and try a wooden railing with thick varnish or epoxy coating.
Content Idea: make a grind rail using pvc pipes. They come in many thicknesses and I'm sure with your skills, You can make it happen.
Cool ideas!
Ok lets roll this
Use a heat gun to heat up the wood so the wax soaks into the wood , don’t burn the wood with the heat gun .
and use some type of wood thats actually known for being super hard, google it!
The dont burn the wood reminder is hilarious
@@eloerch7 What? It's a very important tip! You never ever _EVER_ want to burn your wood. 😏
@@unnamed715 You gotta torch the wood to get that nice char pattern on it.
@@xfreedombuckO5x diamond grind 🤣
Boardsliding that would be a lot of fun maybe using a Santa Cruz ever-slick hm🤔
Day idk of asking Braille to bring back skate roulette. That was fun.
My friend in my teen years made a wooden rail by gluing two long pieces of wood together. He told me that his friend did a 50-50 and that the trucks completely stuck on the rail. Because of this, he fell completely forward and his face slammed on the rail, which caused it to turn red according to my friend. They laughed it off too from what I remember my friend said.
I know nothing about woodworking, but it seems like a wood rail is feasible for grinds only if the wood is that glossy slippery kind with a finish on it or something to stop the trucks from sticking. It seems the wood would have to be hard and sturdy wood too so the trucks would not dig in to the rail and so it would not chip. I have no idea how easy or possible that is to make, especially on a large scale.
At any rate, I enjoyed watching and hope to see more interesting creations from the "Braille Laboratory".
Thanks so much ❤️
With a little support on the legs that rail would be perfect. Def need a wood rail 2.0 vid next
glo was so close to being the first dude to sack a wooden rail
Hahaha
Pretty sure we all already knew this. But Gabe is a GENIUS! Amazing build my man. Really enjoyed this video 👏🏾. Now let's get a longer version of this wooden rail going 😂
That build was wild. Love seeing Glo and Nigel back at it too
Thanks!
Fantastic editing in this one guys! When wooden rail's obituary from 10 am -11 am came on the screen, I almost died. 😅😂🤣
ALL SERIOUSNESS GET HARD WOOD DOWLS OR EXOTIC WOOD ITS SUPER HARD AND HAS NATURAL OILS WITHIN
Hickory, maple, red oak, ebony
You may be able to grind ebony
Hmmm ok!
When I started skateboarding, my friends and I made 2x2 wooden rails, there was no money for iron and we only had sticks, a saw and nails.
they should make a nailhead rail
As a kid a buying metal rail was too expensive and I had no clue how to work with metal to build my own so we made rails similar to this. Basically a long 2x4 for the main part with short 2x4s drilled perpendicular to the bottom so it wouldn’t tip. Then for the rail we used PVC. Drilled holes every 2-3 feet in the top of the pvc and then screwed that onto the 2x4. Worked great for grinds with inline skates and decent for skateboard slides. Grinds on a skateboard not so much. You’d catch on the holes in the PVC or sometimes just explode the PVC altogether. Haha.
I made a wooden rail with some right-angled iron bars screwed into the top to make it grind and slide like a square rail, because I didn't have the tools to make a metal one. Worked like a charm!
Love it
Nigel is back 🎉 🎉🎉 always a great one when he is in the video
think these videos are old
They are
Lol definitely old
@@NigelJonesTv thanks for clearing that up bro 👊🏻 your one heck of a skater
I gotta speak for all of us when I say Ricky needs to see this as well jd, and every other braille crew members! I think mogley would luv it
We will build version 2.0 when they are back in town!
Adding some rubber to the bottom of the legs would help with it moving around. also use 4x4s for the legs so they are solid and use lag bolts instead of screws. Another idea could be to get big enough pvc or abs cut it long ways and cap it. The best thing would be to get a piece of channel to cover it for doing grinds instead of slides.
Love it
Future woodworking advice: Rip cuts (cutting along the grain) are best done with a table saw and crosscuts (cutting through the grain) is best done with a miter saw. This is a lesson I learned well into my woodworking hobby when I had a chunk of wood from a table saw thump me right in the sternum because I was tying to freehand a crosscut...way scarier than a popsicle from a heelflip imo hahah
Lost me hahaha
It depends on the blade, not the saw. There are rip and crosscut blades available in every size. Also combination blades.
Skateboarding has always been about DIY and using whatever materials you have available. I had a wood rail in my garage in the ‘90s. Worked fine for slides and stalls, not so much for grinds.
Shoutss to the editing in this vid its great
Reminds me of the old skate parks with the wooden rails and pvc cope. When I was 14, our park only had wooden rails and all wood ramps in a parking lot of an old grocery store.
Sounds fun
Love Glo. Love Nigel. Love Gabe. Love Derek, love the build. Love braille ❤💯
Love you too
Okay, with out continuing the video I already love the idea!
Yay! Thank you!
This is a perfect idea for beginners. It's easy to build, low-cost materials, and if they find out skateboarding just ain't for them, they're not. stuck trying to resale an $800 rail.
I'd say Gabe killed it on this one!
🤘💙b💙🤘
Hey Gabe, try a half lap joint for the feet and put the screws in from the side, might help it last longer. I love doing board slides and that looks like a ton of fun!
Ok
Yall need to try with some of them legendary walmart plastic trucks. Wax trucks and wood rail and bet ricky can get it to work
Also put brace bar from bottom of rail to thel leg at slanted angle
Indeed
Version 2.0 I suggest you use a hardwood 4x4 fence post for the legs as well as the rail portion. You will want to actually shape the top of the 4x4 but leave the bottom flat so it can attach to the legs of course. And some 2x4 or 1x4 stabilizers for the legs of course. Then you have to actually sand the top of the rail down properly (going from lower grit to higher grit) and then put some sealant on it and then polish it with furniture polish. You might even be able to get a light-footed grind on the trucks with that.
Now we definitely need a version 2.0
I believe in you; your idea's are ingenious Gabe
I had one of these. Made it myself. Speed and wax and shifting your weight back will allow for grinds on the trucks.
gabe - you gotta reinforce with wood glue, also have the screws coming in from both directions for added strength. nice build!
Oh wow
Right On!!! Those blue prints were on point.
Big thanks to whoever did the audio in this one. Love the compression as I have hearing issues.
Our pleasure!
4:58 that bit got me you have to use this joke more 😂😂😂
There's a species of wood that's supposedly the hardest and densest, Lignum Vitae. There's also a treatment that can be done to densify existing timber that involves chemical treatments along with high pressure compression. So in theory, you can make a wooden rail that's stronger than steel ones. I hope someone from the fanbase has access to these methods and materials, eventually making a rail that will absolutely survive your guys' tests.
It also needs to be said that the legs need some more support to prevent it from falling apart. As for the actual rail, it might need to be thicker to support more weight. I also saw a comment about treating the wood with heat and wax to give it a smoother feel.
Lignum Vitae so dense it doesn't usually float.
But you got there first! Boxwood also is fairly tough I thought? Although that might be in the end grain rather than longitudinal strength?
why bother when a metal rail would be easier, cheaper and better
@@harryramsbottom1385
For the design challenge. Making improbable materials work.
Ligma wood lol
Great idea. For rollerblading you make them with PVC piping, and it slides like butter, zero friction. The trucks would destroy it though.
Sounds rad
In the 90s everyone made wooden rails, and then one day it happened, someone's dad welded up a metal one and it was glorious, and eventually someone steal it for snowboarding...
Yes hahaaha
that was awesome to watch. as a kid my dad made me a rail just with a 2X4 and it worked really well just like this. jumping into 5050 stuck just like yours but a roll on 5050 was doable. I bet you guys could get it on this
Sick!
Use 4x4 uprights and T straps to help secure the 2x4 bottoms to the 4x4s as well as screws through the bottom for extra strength.
Ok
Wooden rail is fully OK.. you just NEED metal on top. Either a metal tube cut in half, or U-Channel metal attached somehow (side bolts).
Just trying to slide on wood will work for a day (add wax). Ain't gonna hold up without metal on the top grinding bar though.
Check this out... very stable metal rail, but on top 2 of those wooden bars that seem so slippery.
Will need to be replaced often, but they're cheap.
Great point!
This was sick! Version 2 needs to be longer and have a foot of rail past each end leg like Glo said and then it’s pretty much perfect!
Glad the boys are back with 🔥
We build a small ramp with a wooden supposed grind rail off it when we were children, probably around 1991? I don't know. I don't remember it working well, although it was no worse than trying to grind and slide British curbs which, if you grew up without a skate park like most of us in the UK back then. In fact, the skate parks manual pads and such offer almost no resistance and it's difficult for me to make the transition for some tricks.
Rad
YOOOO!! PLEASE MAKE LONGER ONES AND PLAY A GAME OF 'SKATE' ON IT!!!
Ok hahaha
I need Gabe to make a new floor is lava with his new skills
Braille is so dope!
Thanks
I think if you grind the trucks up and down the wooden rails with your hands with pressure, it'll compress the wood and I feel the wood will only compress so much. So once it's compressed grinding across it might be better, it might not dig in as much.
Triangle pieces of wood to support the base and the rail will be for "wooden rail" 2.0!!
Thanks for the tips!
You could also cut a piece to slide on top of the rail that you can replace or get a metal rail and fit a wood beam on top of it
Angle braces are your friend. And the reason it butters up so nice is because the wood grain can soak up the wax whereas with metal, you just get a topcoat.
Nice
You could find a nice hardwood stair railing, do a few coats of varnish, that would slide nice!
I noticed the rail spins on the floor. This might be one for Ricky: start board slide, the rail is rotated 180 degrees, slide off rail, roll out to where you started.
Oh we tried that haha. Check for the spinning rail video
Solid rail Gabe! Maybe put some non-slip pads on the feet? Looking forward to the next vid! :)
Good idea!!
For inline most people build rails with ABS plastic pipe. I think Keen ramps have also done a video on it. You guys could try those
Yes
PVC not ABS.
With more time it will work really well. Quality wood and pegs instead of screws; sand the grind surface with fine grit till its smooth as glass.
Ok
we used to use old railroad ties and screw angle iron on it
You should put some risers. Grip, rubber, pads, or something under the raill to help it from sliding or moving on the floor, but the build is fumominal
Truth
Great video! Looked fun.
It was!
The diet is working Gabe, I see you! 👍💪
You already know!
8:22 can we say he had a glow up on this wood rail 😂
Yes hahahaha
just had an idea maybe you can use recycled soda cans to line the railyou can screw them in on the underside.. may be alot of work but its a super budget grind rail
Yes
Being a broke skater my first rail was made from round wood fenceposts and 2x4s it taught me board slides….. so this hits home…. I also used literally bar soap for wax
Awesome
Don't worry about a weight loss Glo. Gabe drilled the screws into end grain.
Even a child could pull them out. lol
Hmmm, I suggested the "don't break the" tournament with a bunch of identical cheap decks (still waiting on that, hint hint 🤣) but what about a "don't break the" video where it's the obstacle what you are trying not to break? A flimsy ramp could work (maybe every round remove a rib from the frame) but a wooden rail would lend itself quite well to the idea as the more you grind it, the more damage it 'wood' (ha!) receive, like build it with supports on the ends and maybe one in the middle so there are plenty of unsupported spans that could eventually snap. You wood (I'll stop 🤣) have to get the diameter of the wood for the rail just right so it's strong enough to skate, but thin enough that with some damage eventually it would break...
Love it
Gave make the middle support like a half inch smaller then the end ones maybe more or less depending the spot it’s sitting I like to help ur really doing better n better gabe!
Thanks!
3:56 🤯 DANG BRO!!
Dang
Gabe is super funny 😂❤
Agreed
The pvc truck hacks would "grind" that
Glows pants male me think of Alvin and the Chipmunks, like Simon stole Alvins drip or something 😂
😅
Gabe ..add some triangular bracing to your vertical supports and feet and you will be g2g 🔥
Ok
A friend had one like that but with 2 pieces of pvc pipe instead and I learned a lot of early grinds and slides on that thing. No skateparks so we had to make stuff 🤷♂️
Very cool!
We love you too !!!❤❤
Reinforce that bad boy and never let it go. It’s beautiful
sick video, I see you with the new filming style and the bgm
Some non slip rubber pieces under the feet would maybe keep it from sliding sideways.. but totally awesome!
Make one out of iron wood. It's used in like escrima fights for batons and stuff. It can really take a beating
Epic
15:01 Nigel is also a suuuper genius.
Yes
Gabe and team… Don’t you know any Old School skater??? I mean, really old school… like 80’s skater. That’s how we started (actually discovering) rail slides!!! With wood and no wax!!! Hahahaha. Kudos for your great work guys!!!
Breh pvc instead of the wooden Dowell rod type stuff, ive made rails like this since back in the 80s ...
Just use tapered wood screws and screw the pvc to a 4x4 ...
Same...back in the day the road was dug up outside my house...learned to boardslide on a bit of offcut piping that was hanging around...happy days...
Wood and wood... What a match 😊
Haha
I'd love to see another one! Maybe bigger screws and more weight somehow. Then use a metal board!
Flat pack, self assembly, Gabe rails coming to the Braille shop soon!
What if you do the same concept but have a little gap between the two wooden rails instead of having them touch, to give more room for the kingpin? Though you might need slightly thinner rails so it's not too wide for the trucks.
Good idea
You should drill it into one of your Wooden hubbas. That would be dope
The plastic solid deck boards work great for grinds and slides. Im assuming gabes using soft wood and the trucks will just bite into the wood
Oh like Trex decking?
Drill pilot holes @45° from the sides, and screw down into the footing. Have Danny supervise..
Yes we need Danny hahaha
Glo did his thang