BEST BEGINNER SYNTHESIZERS OF 2023 | BEHRINGER, KORG, ASM, ARTURIA, ROLAND | THAT SYNTH SHOW EP.56

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  • @wolfmanlove
    @wolfmanlove 10 месяцев назад +3

    My first synthesizer is the Roland JDXI. 4 Channels. 2 Digital Synths. 1 Drum Track. 1 Analog Bass. Still tons of fun to use. A great little idea machine. The Synth Samurai is the man who recommended it to me all those years ago. Thank you Samurai!

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      Super epic synth and i think its the best beginner synth ever made now that i reflect. What a long way you have come brother!!! Cant wait for your next creation.

  • @SpaceCapsuleOne
    @SpaceCapsuleOne 10 месяцев назад +3

    Wow, great question. I'd recommend finding one that inspires you to play it while at the same time remains within a budget. Somepeople dip thier toe into hardware synthesis, and find that they would rather go software (and vice versa). Great mentions here! (My first synth was a Rogue Moog - it just landed in my lap. I didn't seek it out. I just inherited when a previous band I was in broke up.)

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      I have checked out that roaring beast on your recommendation. The rogue is insane!!

  • @nolake
    @nolake 10 месяцев назад +3

    Yeah Monopoly or Minilogue. A lot of great synths to start for sure. Nice show man!

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      Appreciate you watching brother in mini log would be top top beginner synthesizer for sure 👍

  • @zap7759
    @zap7759 10 месяцев назад +3

    Hydrasynth Explorer is up there for sure. Check it though.. Novation Bass Station II.
    A used nord lead (any version) is probably the easiest/fastest to program of all synths especially when factoring in multi.

  • @wolfmanlove
    @wolfmanlove 10 месяцев назад +2

    I never would have bought the JDXI if you didn't tell me about it years ago. I have had so much fun with it ever since. Thank you.
    Loved the video. Especially the part about thinking your music is good/bad and getting the opposite opinion for others.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      Bro ur the best man! Cheers for the super thanks man!!! Appreciate that it will go right into the synth bank for a demo synth.

  • @klstay
    @klstay 10 месяцев назад +3

    The answer can vary much from one to another and depends on a number of things including: 1. Budget - Be BRUTALLY honest with yourself about how much discretionary funds you have for a first/beginner synth. It can be worth it to save longer for something that will give you a better first & lasting investment. If you are in a position to do so dropping $1500+ on a first you end up loving for a LONG time is better than all the hours (time is money) on synths you never enjoy. 2. What do you think you want from it? Is your goal to learn the fundamentals of subtractive synth? Have a broadly capable poly to use mostly presets with maybe some tweaking? Is there a specific genre(s) of focus? Are you DAW based and if so what about VSTs? Is your approach comping 1 track at a time or live straight to 2 track like the Samurai? 3. How important is the keybed? Are you a concert level pianist wanting (and would make use of) high end graded hammer action? Accomplished organist wanting a quality waterfall? Someone wanting good quality, but would depend on automation as with KK on a Native Instruments controller? Someone who would almost exclusively use a sequencer plus an MPE surface like the ERAE Touch? (Which is amazing BTW) Once there is an answer to those 3 questions then a focused answer of good choices for a first synth is much easier. Time for some sacrilege. The new Korg Keystage + iPad (with a number of soft synth and effect apps) + quality monitors = a staggering range of synth capabilities for around $1.5k; you just have to decide if the interface works for you.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      So much to think about. Thankfully there are a lot of great price synthesizers for entry-level beginners, getting into sound exploration. The key stage plus iPad combo sounds pretty interesting as well. I’m more along the lines of your point about saving up money for a bigger, more powerful SYNTH but if you really just wanna jump in, I think the behringer synthesizers are the way to go

  • @enochroot9438
    @enochroot9438 10 месяцев назад +4

    My 1st synth was the Roland SH101, I wish I held on to it but I was young and distracted by other interests. When I came back to synths a couple of decades later I picked up a Behringer Deepmind 6, which I see a lot of other folks recommending in the comments. It's a great little synth, still might upgrade to D12 at some point.
    As to my recommendation of which Synth folks should opt for really does depend on their goals and personal circumstances?
    The synth I would recommend is the Korg Wavestate...the reason being it really delivers in terms of satisfaction and enjoyment. Looking around at the synths I have currently the Deepmind 6, Hydrasynth Explorer, Novation Mininova, the Arturia Polybrute...it is the Wavestate that keeps drawing me in. So easy for a complete novice without an understanding of musical theory or electronic synthesis to produce great sounds. It is inspiring and draws a surprising musicality from the player.
    Once you get the hang of the controls, which aren't overwhelming once you start engaging you can produce unique sounds, splits, multi-layered performances.
    You can pick up the original Wavestate for a bargain price on resale sites. It is a synth you'll keep coming back to when others are picking up dust in a corner or under your bed. I enjoyed the Wavestate so much that I put it up for resale at a cheap price so others can enjoy it and purchased the Wavestate SE which has turned out to be a perfect synth for me, zero buyers remorse which you get with most expensive purchases.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      Man the wave state is such a good synthesizer you’re right. For a beginner it gives you the ability to really get lost in some sounds and melodies to the wave sequencing. I was curious how the wave state SE would go over. So you really like it? I have the opsix was very tempted for the SE but I couldn’t justify the price. All the polybrute is such an awesome synthesizer too.

    • @enochroot9438
      @enochroot9438 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@synthsamuraiproductions Absolutely love my Wavestate SE! It's my synth Soulmate! I was on the fence about getting it, and was considering using a controller keyboard with aftertouch but pulled the trigger and bought the SE. My best synth decision ever, takes the pleasure of using the synth to a whole different level, if you ever have the means to get the Opsix SE I would definitely go for it...
      I saw Korg released a Modwave MKII recently with 60 voices of polyphony almost double that of the original Modwave. All LFOs have been updated with options for free running, delayed start, and retriggering, and a pre/post switch for reverb sends has been added, alongside new modulation sources, and more, might be worth mentioning in a video

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      @@enochroot9438 yeah i think the upgrades were great for all three. I do
      Like the aftertouch on the SE as well. I love the
      Wavestate i have but the SE would be wild

    • @AbsurdTV1
      @AbsurdTV1 10 месяцев назад +1

      I had red sh101 bought new as a kid for 150 bucks. I loaned it to a friend and he never gave it back.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      @@AbsurdTV1 damnnn what kinda friend is that? Lol u still friends?

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden 10 месяцев назад +2

    I've owned 30-40 synths, some real classics too. My favourite synth of all time is UAD's Minimoog plugin. All the sound of a Moog with the convenience of a plugin. It sounds so good, very authentic. The only differences to a real unit are the overdrive sounds slightly different, the VCOs don't drift in the plugin. I find the tuning instability of the real thing is usually a pain, although it can make the odd patch sound richer.
    Hardware I've owned includes; Roland System 100 (full system), Juno 106, DX7 Mk2, Casio CZ-3000, Moog Micromoog, Oberheim Matrix 1000, Roland JX-8P, Roland JP-8000, Korg Z1, Casio RZ-1, Roland R-5.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      Man thats a life time of amazing sonic weapons brother!!!! Truely amazing.

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden 10 месяцев назад +1

      Juno 106 would be equal favourite with the UAD plug. I have TAL UNO-LX, which is very good but just missing something. I tried the Softube's Model 84... hmm a little closer but missing something. I've also tried Roland's Juno VST. Roland's sound is very close, but sound is lacking je nais se quoi when playing more than one note. I hope someone does crack the Juno sound 100%, I miss mine badly!

  • @basskraft
    @basskraft 10 месяцев назад +2

    I would recommend learning the basics of synthesis and sound shaping long before you buy your first synthesizer. You should also learn the basics of your favorite musical genre, which will greatly reduce (for the better) your instrument selection options.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      Not a bad route to go, got any good book recommendations for this learning process? I bought the synthesizer cookbook and it was great but im always looking for more books. Wish there were some good magazines too i could get each month.

    • @teatime2595
      @teatime2595 Месяц назад

      Yeah sometimes that works for people not all some like me it's about affordable and the sound and hands on learning is the best and RUclips videos ​@@synthsamuraiproductions

  • @MrTHounsell
    @MrTHounsell 10 месяцев назад +2

    I would not hesitate to recommend the Roland SE-02. WHY? Traditional Analog, enables you to learn subtractive synthesis, great sequencer, highly portable, doesn't eat up desktop real-estate, can be paired with a variety of midi controllers, doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and last but not least has truely outstanding sound quality that is significantly better than the vast majority of full-sized competitors. EDIT: forgot to mention that Studio Electonics (not Roland) support is first rate and there is a very respectable editor available. Hello from the Rock BTW.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      Newfoundland in the house!
      Se02 is a great synth been wanting one for a while. Best mini that roland has made due to studio electionics. Wish they made it bigger but still powerful.

  • @novalogue
    @novalogue 10 месяцев назад +2

    In europe you can literally buy a Microbrute sometimes between 100-140 bucks which is a great price in my opinion

  • @colinhorne2437
    @colinhorne2437 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video Samurai! My first synth back in the early eighties was the Roland SH101 (very similar to the microbrute) followed by the Korg Monopoly. Great that you can get clones of both now. I really wish I had kept them! 😢

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      The SHO one awesome synthesizer. I’m excited to see the Beringer of the SHO one in the monopoly form factor very very very cool. Appreciate you watching.

  • @teddybearasaurus
    @teddybearasaurus 10 месяцев назад +2

    Hydrasynth explorer. It’s really easy to use. You can easily get to presets, and do alot in a very simple way. Arturia minifreak works well with their plugin, and its not too difficult to get into also. I think if you want something simple the microkorg is something very fun. I think I read it is also the best selling synth of all time. For non players the modern MPC one can be found for cheap these days used. It can be expandable with samples, you can make keygroups, and buy their plugins giving more synths… keys can be added… for non key players keys aren’t that important.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      All great point man. The microkorg!!! Man i cant believe korg has done an update modern re-release yet. Never even thought about the mpc. Good call.

    • @teddybearasaurus
      @teddybearasaurus 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@synthsamuraiproductions I bought a microkorg in 2003 I believe. It went on lots of tracks 🔥

  • @SonicVibe
    @SonicVibe 10 месяцев назад +2

    Nice list didn't even know the jd xi was a thing , but that explorer demo sounded great !

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      The JDXI and the JDXA or two rolling synthesizers that kind of went under the radar not a lot of people talked about them, but I do know the JTX is a killer little synthesizer for making finished songs really easily and it sounds great too

    • @wolfmanlove
      @wolfmanlove 10 месяцев назад +2

      JDXI was my first synthesizer. Guess who recommended I buy it? The one and only Synth Samurai.

    • @SonicVibe
      @SonicVibe 10 месяцев назад

      how did you like it ? @@wolfmanlove

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      @@wolfmanlove and man oh man did you make some amazing tracks with that synthesizer

  • @TheDavidPoole
    @TheDavidPoole 10 месяцев назад +2

    Good choices Bruce. A couple that I would add to the list would be:
    Korg microKorg
    Behringer Deepmind 6 (or 12 if budget stretches)
    Behringer Odyssey
    These are the first that come to mind. I'd also recommend an Arturia Keystep controller keyboard and either a Behringer Wasp (currently £130 UK) or Kobol (currently £170 UK-ish) if you're willing to go for separate modules and keys.
    Both the DM6\12 and Odyssey have full size keys (around £500, £700 and £450 respectively). Not sure about microKorg current pricing. The Korg and Arturia are mini\"slim" keys but play nicely.
    Interested to hear other peoples recommendations.
    Cheers!

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      Oh yeah deepmind 6 for sure! Keystep any beringer module would
      Be epic maybe even a pro800. Could put another 10 on this list easy.

  • @kenniferlopez1
    @kenniferlopez1 10 месяцев назад +1

    Korg Triton was my first synth. oh yeah, Rad Sir!

  • @MrFabiusynth
    @MrFabiusynth 10 месяцев назад +1

    😎🤟

  • @jjrusy7438
    @jjrusy7438 10 месяцев назад +2

    Btw, when i said everyone is jaded and recommends the synths they own, or have used, that includes me haha. Anyway, so I wonder if we all would come closer to a consensus, if everyone said the very last synth they would recommend to a beginner. Upon further consideration, i think top dog should be the wavestate. Ps, treat that main encoder like it is made of glass and go easy on the keybed, they are both garbage. The worn encoder is a common problem. You definitely scored one of the best keybeds out there, with that hydraD, and you could chop the wavestate case and lose the sh!t keybed for more room in your rig. Check the manual, but i think wavestate is aftertouch enabled and you can run it from the hydra

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      Yeah man you are right about the wavestate. Tall dog electronics put out a case so u could chop up all three opsix mod and wave. I have throught about doing that too. The keys on those three suck lol

  • @brucebennett5338
    @brucebennett5338 10 месяцев назад +2

    mine was a crumar ds-2

  • @EchoKraft
    @EchoKraft 10 месяцев назад +2

    Korg MiniLogue !

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      Korg minilogue is a great choice

    • @TheDavidPoole
      @TheDavidPoole 10 месяцев назад +2

      I completely forgot about this one! Yes a very good first synth.

  • @aaronparys1750
    @aaronparys1750 10 месяцев назад +1

    Start with VCV Rack .. then perhaps move to a Semi-Mod: Crave ... Alternatively Check the Used Market for some used stuff .. Lots of People are Cleaning House... Obviously Check Prices !

  • @unclejerrysworld
    @unclejerrysworld 10 месяцев назад +2

    I would have included the Roland GAIA 2.... Easy to swallow price for a newbie and packed with sonic power!!! I would have steered any Newbie away from a Roland JDXi or JDXA.... not the right synths to get started..... IMO... There's so many options and variables to be honest... Is the new guy or gal just wanting to learn synthesis (with just monophonic capability only) or dive in deeper out of the gate with polyphony?? What's their tastes in music... What do the expect the synth to do for them personally?? I could go on and on LOL!!! Great Video as alway though!!

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +2

      All great question. Depends of what Journey they wanna take!! So may paths to Sonic Warriorhood.

  • @Roguetrainer
    @Roguetrainer 10 месяцев назад +2

    I actually bought the Microbrute as my first synth. Never got on with it sadly.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah i felt it was limited to but cool to learn on.

    • @Roguetrainer
      @Roguetrainer 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@synthsamuraiproductions It was good for learning. But I quickly got frustrated with it being monophonic. Hence I really liked the CS. Oh and the Deepmind 6.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      @@Roguetrainer I also got frustrated with it being monophonic

  • @michaelpierce3264
    @michaelpierce3264 10 месяцев назад +1

    if you want analog mono the brute is a good choice for poly analog pro 800

  • @jjrusy7438
    @jjrusy7438 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great topic. I have got into it with a few people regarding starter synths. IMO people are jaded and recommend most bang-for-the-buck synths like microfreak or deepmind12 etc or the 2 or 3 synths they own. I would recommend arp odyssey, ik uno synth or moog grandmother to learn subtractive synth because they are straight forward and hard to get lost. The microfreak manual is over 100 pages. Hydra is the last synth I would recommend. Read the manual. I rest my case lol. Seriously, I think you just recommended your synths. Idk about that. And ya, it's all just opinions. Edit: The minibrute was the best of the 4 imo haha.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      The Beringer are Odyssey would be a good synthesizer to learn on. At the end of the video, I mentioned that any Behringer synthesizer would be a great starter SYNTH, because they’re so cheap and really easily laid out. But I also know that from experience you get interested in sound very fast once you are a beginner and you want more and more and more so that’s why for your first synthesize or sometimes it’s nice to have something that has a lot more capability. And to be honest, I’m all 400 page manuals. I love reading them and I find them super helpful when learning, but you are a simple synthesizer like the micro brute or the Odyssey would be great

    • @novalogue
      @novalogue 10 месяцев назад +2

      True especially the Hydrasynth - it even puts me off with the user Interface not having much controls at sight
      That thing can do much but a beginner would need a hell lot of time to get that synth

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      @@novalogue yeah u are probably right about that. But the interface is so intuitive and manual
      Is amazing

    • @novalogue
      @novalogue 10 месяцев назад +1

      It makes sense - but at a certain point almost every digital synth is that complex that the programming experience isnt that of a joy and you rather want to use a VST instead @@synthsamuraiproductions

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      @@novalogue you may be right. Vst are way easier for making an album i would say. But to honest i have had zero desire to use a vst. I just love the hardware. Im a hardware junkie. But if i was making albums etc prob go vst route

  • @matthewbarbour
    @matthewbarbour 10 месяцев назад +1

    Let's go🎉

  • @audiolego
    @audiolego 10 месяцев назад +1

    I recommend Behringer Pro 1 or Behringer K2(ms20) or Behringer 2600. Btw Microbrute was my first real analog in 2014. It was the Minibrute and Microbrute combo. It was sold for the Roland Aira 1 ( for the Sh101 )and Roland TR8

    • @audiolego
      @audiolego 10 месяцев назад +2

      I forgot about the Korg Minilogue Xd rack

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@audiolego xd rack is a great one too

    • @novalogue
      @novalogue 10 месяцев назад +1

      wouldnt recommend the k2 - its architecture is to different what semi modular synths use to be today
      Hz/V - signal converter and the rest of the patchbay isnt really stuff you want to start with

  • @Roguetrainer
    @Roguetrainer 10 месяцев назад +1

    Yamaha Reface CS. Or Korg Minilogue.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад

      Man minilogue is great should have put on list!! Reface Cs awesome too. What was your first?

  • @AbsurdTV1
    @AbsurdTV1 10 месяцев назад +1

    Deepmind 6 first time synth.

  • @TheDavidPoole
    @TheDavidPoole 10 месяцев назад +2

    My first synth was an Electro Harmonix Mini Synth. Not great. 2nd was an EDP Wasp. Very great!

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  10 месяцев назад +1

      Wasp 🐝 man i gotta get the clone

    • @TheDavidPoole
      @TheDavidPoole 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@synthsamuraiproductions yes, i got one recently and it's very close to the original. I'd recommend it. It's got a pretty unique sound. Nice digital oscillators and one of the best filters IMHO. Real sizzly 😀
      Cheers!