Behringer Classic Mono Synth Comparison and Review. Which one should you buy?
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2021
- It can be tricky to know which of the Behringer classic mono synth releases will suit you best. Having collected all of them over the past few months, here are my thoughts on which synth is best for what, and why you might like which one.
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Featuring the Pro-1, WASP Deluxe, Model D, and CAT (and chat about the K2). Not featuring the Neutron, as that isn't a remake.
All chat. Nae sounds.
p.s. on the K2, I thought I had mentioned this, but the patch bay standard is different from other synths, in that it uses Hz/V instead of v/Oct. This means that you can't as easily patch it into your modular system without a convertor. It is only really critical for pitch, but worth noting.
I've put together a few different sample packs with patches in semi-tones from C1 to C4. All in WAV at 44.1kHz 24bit, and with an .XPM keygroup file for Akai devices, optimised for the FORCE.
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Great video! We of course love all our children! ;-)
Cheers! Can I be a child of Behringer?
@@StephenMcLeod thanks! have any vids showcasing it?
@@PinkOrangeRed None that talk about it specifically, but if you look back a few videos there's one where I am using the 'boiing' sequencer with the Monome.
Screw you Berenger! Rip off all the best synthesizers in history to make money. And everything is bad build quality. And then you piss around with all these companies as well!
step children*
The Wasp not only have a unique filter, it has unique oscillators as well, which actually aren't voltage controlled, and not really DCO's either, sometimes they are called digital, but that's not really true *either*... But yeah, they start with a high-frequency square, and then divide it down to the right frequency depending on the key pressed, and then you have a PLL to add a glide, and finally that square wave is waveshaped into a sawtooth and PWM.
And somehow, all that complicated circuitry was cheaper to make than a normal VCO. :-)
Thanks for the technical info Lennart!
It's digital/ or hybrid, just not PCM. Way cheaper than Precision analog. Sounds cool, too.
@@crysstoll1191 It's not PCM at all. It's more like an organ, as it's based on a divide-down structure, which is very unusual for mono synths.
@@RegebroRepairs Hence my comment...
This is a really good review. I like how you explain things from a workflow and use basis - something most other channels don't cover. Well done! Subbed with thanks.
Thanks a lot! I'm glad it was useful. :)
I got into sampling early, then went DAW for many years. The clones have given me a chance to explore those classic sounds and designs I could never afford in the past. I'm a very happy camper!
Great video!
I'm glad it was useful!
Thanks for the comparison! Also, I love how your scottish accent comes through even after being vocoded 😄
Does it?!
@@StephenMcLeod I'd say so, it's pretty recognizable (which is a good thing). Or maybe it's my brain telling me I finally need to buy a vocoder...
To be fair whenever I try do impressions I still sound Scottish. Can't escape it. Also. Get a vocoder! I think this was just the Pocket Operator speak, so a fake one.
What a fantastic, engaging colourful vid. Very informative and you are great on camera. Thank you. Thinking of the pro 1 or perhaps BS 2. This was helpful.
Thanks for your kind words!!
I keep putting it off but a BS 2 has been on my list for ever. Ultra Nova and Minilogue have crossed my mind as well but I’m pretty much tapped out unless I get rid of some bastard children and well ??? I don’t need any more, but a CZ mini for $100? Behringer hurry up already and please make it better than the other minis for $100 🥳
Awesome comparison mate! It helps a lot! Thanks
Glad it was useful!!
Great reviews & opinions thank you
Cheers for watching!
Great descriptions! I have the same four as you, and also a MS-20 Mini. I totally agree about the Wasp. I think it's very easy to get interesting, musical sounds that are a bit "different". Therefore I tend to start the Wasp more often. Maybe it's those strange oscillators in the Wasp? I don't know. I also agree that Pro-1 is, maybe not boring, but the least inspiring of the bunch.
I love the Wasp! It's my favourite one too for the reasons you've mentioned.
I'm with you guys, absolutely LUV my WASP!! I actually have another one I haven't opened yet because it's for my kid, but we keep our gear together so it will definitely fatten up my WASP 😉
I love how subjective this is! Would be great if we could hear some demos of each sound scenario you mentioned. Any plan of making a sound comparative vid showcasing what you shared with us on this one?
Thanks! I made this a long time ago, so perhaps a follow up with sounds would be worth it...
Absolutely, please do, as it is always interesting to see what different people like and how they interpret how a unit best resides within their workflow or when revisiting a piece for experiments .
I overlooked the Wasp and ended up with a West Pest somehow.
The Wasp doesn’t do the same things but the sounds are there.
The Wasp would have been a better choice for me workflow wise and they come up for an attractive price in the used market.
I now think paired up, that a Wasp/West Pest could make for some serious West Coast meets UK semi modular generative mess.
Thanks man! great review :D
Glad it was useful!
Great video man, I loved hearing your take on all of that!! Was hoping you would do a video like this lol ...I now understand why you don't have a K-2 and already having the mini makes total sense!! I was wondering about that, because it's one of my favorites, and I was going to tell you that your crazy and have to get one... But ok, we're good lol. Aaaaaand I think you've sold me on the WASP, for real, esp from your previous videos with it too!! 😎🐝🐀🐝🐀🐝🐀
I think your suit the wasp perfectly tbh. It's wild... And you can find them for like two hundred quid brand new. It's my favourite of the bunch. I love the MS-20 too!
This was great! Thanks a lot!
Do you have a recommendation for a good converter for the K-2 so it can play nicely with other modular gear in a eurorack?
I'm not sure unfortunately. I think the Korg SQ1 can do it, but I don't personally use the ms20 with my other modular gear much.
Great video. This lead me to my first insect-themed synth purchase, along with the AKAI Force and a Novation midi controller. I spent several hours tonight in vain trying to get them to play nice together, but I'm sure it will be worth it when I finally get the routing figured out...eventually (I'd love to see a photo of your midi routing). A month ago, all I had to worry about was my pedal board routing, and fussing with the intonation of my Jaguar. What have I gotten myself into? Oh well, enough about my troubles. Great video, and thanks for posting!
Nice one! I've not used the MIDI a whole lot with the Force yet, so I'll need to investigate that. The Jaguar is a lovely guitar! I have a JagStang. :D
thank u for this. helped a lot
Thanks a lot! I'm glad. Cheers for watching.
Thanks you really helped me get my bearings as a newb; I wasn't sure if the Pro 1 was good at bass or not. I'm leaning towards the pro 1 as you said you can defo get some ball-busting bass sounds plus some leads (without confusing the hell out of myself!). Like the idea of the on-board sequencer and arp to keep things simple at first too. Cheers.
Hey! Glad this was useful. Cheers for watching!
Put a Pro1 through a Octave pedal and you have as much power as a Taurus. Watch your speaker cones when going to the filter cutoff!!!
Yeah that sounds lethal, may need a bass limiter in that line up!
I bought the lot as well, lost a lot of my old monos years ago, so was nice to hear them again 👍👍👍
Nice one. What ones did you used to have?!
Neutron, MG, K2,Wasp,Pro1, Deepmind12👍 have around 70 synths of different types 👍
I’m considering getting two or three of these behringer modules. I am a little concerned with tuning/calibration though, it seems most people complain about that. Have you experienced any issues with that?
I haven't. At least not outside of my experience with analogue synths in general. The Model D apparently always had tuning drift, and since this is a clone it makes sense that that is replicated.
@@StephenMcLeod so I ended up purchasing the K2, just received it today. It is completely out of tune, like horribly out of tune. I know analogue synths need time to warm up, I gave it a good 30 minutes and it’s still all over the place. The calibration is off as well. It’s a shame as I really did want to like it and keep it. It may just be my unit, but to be honest this experience alone has put me off exchanging it for another one. Will be returning it. Oh well, I gave it a shot haha.
great overview friend. i'm not a big hardware user aside from a few devices... but anyone who is looking to buy one of these behringer clones will definitely find help in this video. btw, from all the demos i've heard of these clones... I actually think the Pro-1 is my favorite lol!
Thank you! I like the Pro-1 btw! It sounds fantastic, but it's just one of the less exciting of the remakes for me... but then I do like the weirder end of things, so that's no big surprise.
In the market for some affordable hardware synths to spark my music and I really enjoyed your breakdown of the synths. Thanks for doing this.
Glad it was helpful!
This was great, subbed! The only thing that would have made it even better IMO would have been some quick sound samples to illustrate your points of each one, but I guess the internet is full of those so no biggie
I’ve got the Pro 1, Monopoly, and just Ordered the Wasp. Of the other Behringer monos which might add something different sound wise?
I think the CAT would be the most interesting to try out!
Do oscillators need to be calibrated on the Wasp like on say the Pro-1 or because Ethel are digital I don’t need to do that? I’m pretty green sorry
I am not 100%, but I haven't had to calibrate mine!
@@StephenMcLeod thanks, and damn I need to start proof reading
I have most of them K2 ,Neutron ,Wasp, 2600 ,Crave , Pro 1 and a Roland System 1m I'm wanting all of them connected together but I can't find a manual or video to show me how to do it. Do you have any idea how to do this. I bought expensive books and they all fail to show me how to connect all my 16 synths together. Maybe it's impossible but I like to know one way or another. please any help is greatly appreciated.
It depends on what kind of connection you want and for why! To use it as one big poly synth I think you are best using something like an RK-006 MIDI interface - that might give you the most flexibility.
@@StephenMcLeod I am trying to use an 8 port midi thru box will this work also it seems all these have usb connections as well. if i''m using with a DAW would this work? I still have no sound
Hi, nice video!! what's your opinion on the Neutron? I'm asking as from my little online quest, it seems to be the best capable of all... Thanks
The Neutron seems to be a great semi modular synth. If you're new to synthesis in particular. I haven't tried one personally as it covers a lot of similar ground to what I have in my main modular. Best of luck!
Liked the comparison on the remakes..I couldn't decide which behringer to get so i opted for the one with the biggest patchbay...the neutron...and it's been a great synth to learn on and have access to many different sounds.
I need to try out the Neutron some time!
Which one do you think is best suited for a semi-beginner (it wouldn't be my first synth, but my first semi-modular though)? So many people tend to direct me to the Model D because it's "simpler" but I love the sound of the Cat and The Pro-One.
I think any of them would be good, in all honesty. They're all interesting and well priced. If you like the look of the CAT then go for that!
@@StephenMcLeod Noted. Thanks for answering and for your videos :) Please, keep making them! ps Happy new year!
I don't think anything can substitute for "I love the sound of ..." -- that's a great motivator that money can't buy. Sometimes by "simpler" people really mean "more familiar" -- to themselves, not you.
You did a fine job, nice👍🏻
Why thank you!
what's that large sequencer behind your left shoulder?
The grid thing? That might be the Monome 256.
The Pro 1 is one voice of the of the Prophet 5 and is capable of making any sound you can think of. Have you tried using the modulation section? All the early Yazoo stuff was mainly a Pro One. Japan used a Prophet 5 all over their tracks.
I have indeed. I am but a modest man of limited capabilities!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts in such a highly entertaining and interesting way. I'm so thrilled to know that you like the wasp, I own two of those in addition to the lovely little Doepfer wasp filter. I suppose it's a wasp's nest of cables and good for making music on the fly. (Please excuse the terrible dad jokes and puns, I couldn't resist). I love the more '70s than the '70s beautiful melodies and harmonies from it. This model fascinated me in the 1980s because it was the first ever synth bought by the very wonderful Bon Harris of Nitzer Ebb when he was a callow and enthusiastic young man. I will look forward to your future videos with great interest. All the best to you.
Thanks for the watch and the comment Francis! This video is pretty old now but the WASP remains my favourite! I also have the Doepfer filter, though I swear the one on the Behringer sounds better...
Thank you. My Model D connected to Yamaha mx88 sustain pedal does not hold the note on the Model D... any ideas ?
What port are you plugging the sustain pedal into?
@@StephenMcLeod did plugs into the regular port on the mx88 and it works fine on the mx88 but coming out of the mini Port connected to the model d it's not holding the note
Have you tried using the oscillator outs on the wasp? As far as I know, they’re only useful for feeding back in to the ext. sound port. I looked at the wasp manual online and there’s no explanation for them, 😂
Yeah. They're standard vco outputs from what I gather, so designed to output to a modular system primarily I'd imagine. Not sure how useful they would be for most folks without a v/Oct input mind you, but still...
@@StephenMcLeod oh sorry, and great vid, as usual. 😄
Don't apologise! I'm not entirely surely why they were included haha. It's a... Curious choice.
Which would you recommend for someone who loves the Boards of Canada sound?
I don't know a huge amount about Boards of Canada I must admit, but I believe they used a Roland SH-101, so it would be worth keeping an eye out for the MS-101, or MS-1.
the cat has two sub oscillators also all wave shapes can be used at the same time it a bass monster!
It's a beauty!
came for the synths, stayed for the accent!! Love it!!
My secret weapon!
Hi!! Awesome explanation, but I am super noob. I need one of them to learn on. I don’t want to go into rack. I have a midi controller and want to add synth to my rock music. Which is a good solution to learn on and keep if get into it? Really dig model d sound or pro 1 but I’m scared on the tuning stability
Thanks for the help
If tuning stability is an issue go for the pro 1. The model d infamously has drift.
@@StephenMcLeod thanks
I like your gear talk vids it reminds me of reading a Garth Ennis comic or an Irvine Welsh novel. In a good way! Good video
I'll have to look up Garth Ennis!
Which of these has the most options/can do the most experimental sounds WITHOUT going modular???
I'm not really sure how to answer that unfortunately. The CAT probably has the most varied range of sounds that are easiest to get to - but they are all pretty capable.
@@StephenMcLeod you're not sure which of these has the most functionality?
No. It's not as straightforward as comparing them in that way. How are you defining functionality?
But you can't just patch your K-2 into your other Eurorack synths. It needs an adapter. It would have been a lot nicer if Behringer made it use standard signal voltage so that it would be patch-able with other synths right out of the box.
Great point. I was pretty sure I mentioned that. Maybe not though. I think they would have gotten more criticism if they had changed the voltage format from Hz actually. That does make it trickier.
A couple of years on, but still really, really useful.
I can't believe this video still gets so many views!
I love them all as well...
Nice work fella.
Great content❤. Have the behringer neutron. Gonna check out the wasp. Thanx again. And yeah, you didn't talk sheit.
Haha thanks!
I just got a K2 because, like you said, I wanted to learn from the extensive patch bay without needing two or more units to be patched together. It will be fun just learning what you already know about it for myself. Good job of just telling the facts of the features for each unit. Maybe you could demonstrate using a sequencer with the WASP? I have a beatstep pro and not sure how to connect it to the K2 for sequencing.
For the BeatStep Pro, you can just hook up the MIDI output to the MIDI input of the K2. You'll need to use the adapter for the MIDI Minijack that comes with the BSP though.
I have just bought the Pro 1 and the K2 ( My old MS 20 is a little tired ) and I find I go to the Pro 1 for Bass more than the K2 both sound good mind - Great video
I just want to know how'd you get those tats on your hands? On the palms of your hands... How bad did it hurt?
The worst pain I've ever experienced. Like having a knife stabbing into my hands.
@@StephenMcLeod Was it really that bad? Because it does kind of look cool. I've never seen anyone with tattoos on the palms of his or her hands though. Hm. I guess there's nothing to it but it do it if I really think it looks that cool. Thanks.
@@PaulTheSkeptic yes. It was like torture. Took forever to heal as well, but I like them so don't regret it!
@@StephenMcLeod Hardcore. 👍Thanks for your input.
I have the Pro one and find it quite inspiring. The modulation matrix, the arpeggiator, the sequencer and the triggering options provide lots of options. I agree that it excels at bass sounds, although increasing resonance on the filter takes away some of the bass from the VCOs.
I have a Model D and Neutron and I'd love to add a Wasp to the collection. I feel the same way about the K2 and I'd rather wait for the Pro 800 instead of the Pro 1. There have been so many announced in this format too that I'm interested in like the Solina. I also have a TD3, RD6, MS1 and Deepmind12 and all of it sounds great. I also wonder why they didn't make The Crave in the same format as the other desktop synths. It would have been nice to put that in a rack with the Neutron with all the patching capabilities and the sequencer. It may sound silly but the form factor was the only reason I didn't get a Crave.
Oh yeah... I wonder why they didn't do that with the Crave. I guess it came first and they wanted to differentiate it, but the Mother 32 (which it seems to be based on) was in a bigger case. Odd!
Are all these Behringer synths eurorack compatible?
It depends what you mean by that. If you mean can they integrate with Eurorack patch points, then they all do have some kind of semi-modularity, yes. If you want to mount them in a Euro case with Euro power, I believe so - though I personally wouldn't do that. I'd just get rack mount ears for them.
@@StephenMcLeod thanks, i was looking for some photos of mounting them in eurorack on internet and didn't find any of such picture, only rack mount ears stuff
Easy sub. Pro 1 it is! So excited!!! Thank you!
I hope you like it!
Thanks for video! The Pro 1 bass and leads are it's best sounds imo. Very snappy if you like that for bass, I like it better tham Moog's for bass. The Cat is close to an Odyssey from what I have seen about it.
Clocked the Boss half-rack fx in the background. Love those little boxes. Especially the sample-delay.
I have a Pro 1 and a Cat, and currently wondering whether I need both. The Cat is an underrated, oddball one. I wouldn't mind getting a Wasp, too.
Yeah! I've got a couple of them. They are pretty weirdo things. The WASP is my favourite so would definitely consider that.
Love your accent it is music in it self ;) Good rewiew, good thougts Much love from Sweden
Tack! I'll make it to Sweden one day. I've heard that about the CAT. I've played with an Odyssey, but didn't love it. It was a few years ago mind, and my knowledge of synthesis was far less, so who knows how I'd gel with it today.
@@StephenMcLeod thanks bro👍 i havet a behringer Odyssey and it can feel a bit strange att first. But i Love it more and more one tend to grow into it,
@@infinity528hz5 Lots of room for exploration for sure!
What Behringer synth for electro funk? Thanks
I wish I knew enough about electro funk to say!!
Nice sharing 🤫👍
Great video mate. The only obvious omission I could see here was the Neutron. It's my favorite and I wondered why it wasn't covered in your otherwise spot on overview. What up with that?
Cheers for watching! I didn't include the Neutron as I was mostly looking at/comparing the remakes of classic synths in this video. The Neutron is its own specific thing, and so it didn't quite fit what I was after, though I know a lot of folks like it a lot.
very informative video - I so far got 3 of the "Model D" for 3-polyphonic (+ Doepfer A-138s mixer + CV interface + midi keyboard) - yes, it's a bit crazy, but the sound is F.A.T. ;-)
Impressive! I respect that.
Awesome video! I feel like the Neutron is probably my favorite module from behringer, but the wasp is a close second place!
I need to get my hands on a Neutron...
hello bro, could you please activate the automatic subtitles so that I can understand the subject? I would like it very much.
Unfortunately that is down to RUclips, not me! They must not be able to auto detect my accent...
@@StephenMcLeod oh okay. thank you anyway🤝
So do the clones sound the exact same as the originals?
I've never used any of the old ones, so I am probably the wrong person to ask about that! Though from what I've heard, they are meant to be very good.
Great video, subbed.
I'm in a bit of a quandary with what to go for. I've just sold a Virus-C and I own a Wasp. I'm a romantic for very early 90's acid / techno and can't decide between the Pro-1 or K2.
Snappy envelopes is high priority. I see you mentioned that that was an issue on the Pro-1. Was this ever resolved?
I just bought a Virus C ironically!! I believe the issue with the envelopes was fixed yeah. Out of the two you mentioned I would go with the Pro 1 personally.
Nice! congrats with the Virus-C - the only synth that ever violently shook my Beyer cans! Some of them patches are untamed and are WILD with the Sub osc / Saturation cranked up!
Good shout with the Pro-1 Stephen, might even pair it up with a cheeky Kobol for the craic
The Kobol looks real nice tbf @@Alpha-DX
what do you think of the WASP?@@Alpha-DX
@@GullySyde28 I think it has a very "specific" sound, have a look through some of my videos and you'll see what I mean. It's OK for bass duties but it's a simple synth and it's not that versatile for my kind of genre. It does sound nice and gnarly especially fed through an overdrive. What kind of sounds are you wanting out of it?
Full disclosure: I sold the Wasp last week. I now have a Kobol which for an extra £50 over the Wasp, is a literal no-brainer. It's a fantastic mono synth
before I say my say... I´ve got the Poly D, the Neutron and a mixture of Euroracks some from Erica, some made by myself and a fun thing called the system 100 sequencer (Beh). And the winner is... for first synth... Neutron. Why? The patchbay. You´ll learn a lot. Will get frustrated a lot. Will swear and sweat. But then you´ll be worthy of the rest.
I'll need to try the Neutron one day.
I got the Pro-1 but secretly always wanted the Model D.
They pop up every so often for decent prices!
Good comparison! I have all 6 desktops and agree with your opinion ,and as for sliders ie the Cat ,are (imo) much more creative interface and visually superior to knobs (having Karp FS Odyssey and 2600 ,Behringer Cat and MS 101,Blue Marvin and a CS 20 M)and they are soo much more inspiring to make sounds on than my "flaggshipsynths" Moog ONE,REV2 and Virus TI 2. So for me all synths should have sliders like the vintage goodies JP8 and CS 80.Honest i REALLY DISLIKE knobs as a user interface on synths (take a envelope with sliders, you can actually see the curve graphical)suites me and makes it easy to set up and (re)create sounds fast.
I am a big fan of sliders! More synths should have them!
How do you rate the Cat versus the Odyssey?
@@dimensionstomorrow Sold all my Behringer desktops,in favour for new gear.But i liked all the desktops,Cat and Korgs Odyssey ,and even size matters to the sound and feel to a synth,had the "mini Odyssey" which sounded great but the feel and handling of the FS Oddy gives an ever better feeling/aura to it....imo of course.
No one gets into behringer synths too late or too early. They get into behringer synths precisely when they mean to.
Sounds philosophical
A thumbs up for your channel name!
Why thank you!!
Cool vid bro. Did you ever try out the Behringer Odyssey? Seems like a lot of synth for about £100 more than the modules.. Liking the jazz hand motions lol 🙆
Hey! My dad's a preacher, so I've clearly been affected by his gratitous hand flailings. I haven't tried the Behringer Odyssey actually, but you're right it's great value for money. I tend to go for modules as I have limited desk space, and I didn't love the original Odyssey, but... that's also probably because I tried it years ago when I had no idea what I was doing. haha
@@StephenMcLeod Haha The son of a Preacher Man, awesome :) Yeah would be cool to revisit the Odyssey at some point Bro
@@StephenMcLeod -- exactly my experience of the (Korg) Odyssey. Still have it only because I didn't want to admit defeat ... so I guess someday I'll figure it out, and THEN sell it
Also, what about the Cat? I had one and sold it.
The Cat is in there!
Not reviewing the TD6 or the B2600?
The RD6? I might pick one up at some point as I like the 606 sound. It doesn't fit in this video though. The B2600 I probably will never get, as it is too close to my Eurorack.
I own the wasp and The pro 1 both are awesome
Love the WASP. Need to spend more time with the PRO-1.
Great to see another synth fan who has benefited from this Behringer boom. There are positives
Agreed. I'm not really convinced about the default hate for Behringer.
@@StephenMcLeod me neither. You have a great way of covering these synths. Subscribed 👍
Thanks Jim! Appreciate that.
What about the Neutron and Crave?
Neutron wasn't a mono remake so it isn't included
First off, I could just listen to you talk about anything for an hour. Sottish people just sound brilliant, and it's great.
The only one I own is the Model D, and that's what I'd recommend as the first choice. The MiniMoog is probably the greatest synthesizer design of all time and it was revolutionary when it came out. The sound of this appears on more songs than any other. It's a great live performance instrument and excels in almost every area--leads, bass, and chords. The Moog filter is classic and gives it a fat, resonant sound that's just beautiful. If you can afford the extra money, than the Poly D is even better--better in some ways than a real Mini that costs 5 times as much.
I could see where a new user could find the Mini a little unintuitive at first, but, once you get used to it, it's the simplist and most intuitive synth that I know of. I still find Odysseys and 2600's to be unintuitive, but I can tell you what every knob and switch on a Mini does in semi-darkness on stage with almost no thought.
The others might be nice to have also (I have some vintage monos that I keep around for kicks), but, honestly, the Model D is probably the only mono synth you'd ever need.
Hell yeah. Thanks! The Poly D can be picked up for really crazy low prices as well! I've seen them for about £400, which is mad.
I am going to pick up some monosynths from behringer Poly D, Monopoly, and the 2600 and a polysynth deepmind 12d
Nice setup!!
The Cat and Wasp modules ,the key versions the Odyssey and Ms1 . The Wasp is a synth who fit very good in a mix a nice sound a bit era Ms20 about The Cat this synthesizer is a all rounder who do it all from Moogy basses to strange percussion noise i serious love this synth. About the snappyness from the Pro 1 i owned the Prophet 600 ,MultiTrak ,Sixtrak,Prophet2000 and they had all the same leazy attack Prophet 600 was the weakest .
Thanks for commenting! It's awesome that we have access to all of these kinds of synths now for a decent price.
@@StephenMcLeod You are right !
I m curious for the Vcs3 , The Kobol , Ms5 , Polivoks .
Me too!
The MS20 looks great, iconic even. The K2 looks shite. So that's decided for me.
I like synths with keyboards. I wish they'd made a wasp with the weird keyboard. Suppose I'll have to make do with the Arturia Freak.
Nice video. You definitely have the gift of the gab (or whatever the Scottish version of that is).
Haha cheers! Aye, I use my Wasp with the Freak as well. The original Wasp keyboard was apparently glitchy, so the Freak is a nice stand in. I agree on the K2 as well - the MS-20 just looks amazing.
The wasp is my favourite too and it does look really really lovely ✌️
It is a lovely thing.
I have them all and I love them all. I make my own sounds, too.
Hell yeah. They all fit a nice wee niche. Pretty cool that they are so accessible now.
All of them :D
A perfectly acceptable response haha
Neutron? Thanks for this video. I'm looking at the cat
I've not tried the Neutron! I didn't include it in this as it's not a remake of a classic. Lots of folk seem to like it though.
@@StephenMcLeod very true
All 4 Synths are also owned by me and im really really cool with that! Because...the software can be better i think.
Totally agree about the WASP. Sold my Pro-1 for one.
I'm glad someone does!!
what about the neutron?
It's not a remake, so not looking at in this one. If I get a hold of one I'll do something separately though.
Yea !!! ... your shirt is screaming I love the Neutron !! ... great reviews and subscribed BTW ... keep it up 👍🏻
@@mauriciomandara5946 hahaha the most convincing argument for a Neutron yet. Thank you!
I enjoyed this overview! Still can‘t decide between them though, which seems alright since you obviously couldn‘t either 🤣 only difference, if I can‘t decide I can‘t buy, so it‘s ultimately better for my wallet to stay confused 🤪 I do have a Crave though, which was a good decision!
If you can't decide, get the WASP! They've been going for crazy cheap prices lately.
Hi, great video! greetings from Chile!
I think that you can help me master, please...
Wich Behringer synth can work better for do minimal house music.
(K2, Pro 1, Wasp, Neutron, Model D. Crave, Cats, Deepmind 6)
I search good bass, drones, glitch, blips, blops, leads and weird sounds.
I produce music like Ricardo Villalobos, Raresh or Petre Inspirescu.
Hey! The Deepmind 6 is probably the most capable out of all of the ones you've listed there, as it's poly, though I can't 100% tie it to a specific genre that way. The CAT definitely is good for bleepy glitchy things - so that would probably be my choice.
@@StephenMcLeod One last question, I would like to know what you think of k2 with respect to deepmind 6 and cats since many minimal music artists use ms20
Because I already have a poly synth...
So i been search a good modulesynth mono for glitch, bleeps, drones, etc...
So my options are: K2, CAT, Pro 1, Crave, Model D or Wasp. please
@@pralu7223 I don't have a K2, so can't comment on that. I believe it's the least well loved of the mono synths though. If you want that, you'd be as well getting an MS-20 Mini. If you want weirdo bleeps, drones etc, like I said - CAT would be my choice, but all of them will be able to do similar.
@@StephenMcLeod ok ok I understand but between MS 20 mini and CAT witch one is better with more stuffs... please crack :D
The Cat is a convincing clone. Had one way back, swapped it for a ms10 but missed it madly.
It's a real nice synth!
Subbed before 1 million. Nice accent btw
Hahah that might be optimistic. But I appreciate it!
a bit more synth 'on camera' would be useful and maybe some sounds could improve the subject covered .
Noted!
I just knew he'd say Wasp. But, I'm dissappointed you didn't change into a yellow and orange shirt for the reveal. But, yeah, I agree, I like it best when they do slightly left of field, and not the most obvious synths. Well, I did until the Kobol, but mainly because it's ace with a modular. The Barp 2600 is no slouch either, for what it is does at the price. Was thinking it would be nice if they did a Jen SX1000, an Ensoniq SQ-80 & Fizmo. I like the idea of them doing what used to be the cheaper character synths. And I also think it would be cool if they stopped doing analogue synths and moved over to doing samplers like the ancient Akais, S900/950 etc... though I realise that is harder for so many reasons.
Dude! You have 1980s Roland half-racks!
I also didn't get the K-2, but I can see this ready difference to the S-20: the size of the patch cables. Otherwise, I found it really hard to understand -- almost as difficult as the Odyssey (but that's another story).
The Boog, I suspect, was Behringer's salvo-across-the-bow to the music world. I don't immediately understand it either, which is part of what makes it interesting.
In contrast, the Wasp is simple **and** idiosyncratic. I didn't expect it to be at all interesting, just figured I'd use it for simple background sounds. But it's fantastically unique, and -- I agree -- immediate. For me, it was a real confidence-builder.
Ha ha! I agree, the Pro1 does lack idiosyncracies; no real character. Very solid. Great basic analog synth.
The Cat I got because I enjoyed the Wasp so much. Again, I completely agree with your point: interface strongly affects results. Like the Wasp, I have no real expectations; it's just for additional minor backgrounds.
Hell yeah. I love those Roland half racks! They can do some weird and wonderful things :D They are getting a bit pricey now mind...
@@StephenMcLeod -- indeed -- hence my surprise at seeing them. But that's the compressor I used on all my demos way back when, and I still have it
Cool guy there!
Why thank ye!
No review of the Nuetron??
Not in this! Only doing the remakes here. Neutron is its own beast.
Most people I’ve talked to are suggesting the Nuetron to go with the Crave I ordered. Some reviews are good and some aren’t explaining as much of it as they could.
It looks like a cool synth. Lots of options and nice effects. It's not high on my list as I have a modular system, but maybe I'll pick one up...
the cat has two synch modes the first is a medium synch the second is the hard traditional synch
Solid info!
Wait, what about the 2600?
This video pre dates the 2600 I believe.
@@StephenMcLeod Ah my bad then. So... how about the 2600?
@@seanluke3052 It seems cool. It's a bit different to these as it's much more of a fully modular synthesizer. If you are interested in the world of modular but don't want to fall down the expensive rabbit hole immediately, this is probably one of the best options out there. It's on sale at the moment as well I believe. A friend of mine had one, and it was fun to explore. I found it pretty tricky to understand at first, but it would scratch that itch.
@@StephenMcLeod I've got one, just was wondering what your opinion was. It's a semimodular much like the Neutron is, so it's got a useful dedicated signal path without patching.
I actually find semi modular more confusing than modular, as it's harder to determine what the actual original pre patched signal path is. Though that could just be me. How do you like it?!
what about the Neutron?
Not included as it isn't a classic mono synth repro.
The Cat Is awesome at getting those 'video game' style sounds yeah chip tune refers to lofi lower bit, The cat is VERY unique esp witht the LFO delay (very cool for vibratos and such) the cat is amazing for Bass as it can g a whopping two octaves down or up, outside of the normal range it can hit.
I totally agree with the Pro one However i will say , The same way it is GREAT for Bass, I can create Such Lush pads, and string sounds that it almost doesnt need a Polyphonic accompanyment,
Im running the Crave, The Cat, The RD6, The TD3, The pro One, And i have their PCA3 mixer module, also a Minilogue, a Tr8 Aria Ran by Novation sl Mk3 ( control 32 synths at once hell yeah) no pc :) anyway Bheringer really should incorperate Midi functionality like full. like on my keyboard i can control every parameter of my minilogue and tr8. highly suggestable, especially for modular incorperation, it has two cv outs with sync. I LOVE MY CAT., AND PRO ONE being they all have the 3340 oscilators yes one CAN make them all sound DAMN SIMILAR however with waveshaping, filters adsrs etc, (which are different per synth) they do all have a distinctly different sound.
i did not want to like my pro one ....(im kind of an OG snob with equipment.) and i looooooooove mine.
I was originally gonna Rack my Cat and the Pro one, and i hate to say this but funcionality wise the cat is the only one id rack,. now ( as it has both midi in out on front panel and usb,
when you rack the pro one you lose the usb, and midi through that is built to the box- (no updates?) this may seem like small potatoes but....
Which one do you like more, the pro 1 or the cat?
I think the ONLY ones complaining about the "Ethics" of cloning classic synths are those who own the originals and fear their priceless treasures would lose some wealth when all the "poor plebs" out there are suddenly able to have these synthesizers and their sounds available too. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with cloning electronic Instruments and making it possible for everyone to afford them. I own the Poly-D and personally that is about as CLOSE to me ever owning a MiniMoog Model D in any form and i am absolutely happy with it. Especially the feature additions of Uli's Clones are worth checking out modern incarnations of these classics. Because you can tell Uli is a HUGE nerd and loves these classic synths. The clones always feel like they pay tribute to their originals and with the Kobol they even bring back Synths that barely anyone even heard of back then. So going through these clones is like a history lesson. And i'm already looking forward to the Pro12, the DS80, the Behremin and the Polyvoks clone :) I have hopes that Behringer might release a revision of their Wasp clone that comes with a membrane keyboard as well.
I own a TR-808 and not at all threatened by the beh or Roland boutique clones at all. I do own the RD-9 and love it. I have other original models and love good new gear but not if it's weak sound or not reliable in whatever it's doing
Excellent. Thanks. I like most Beringers BUT the K20 filter is awful. Get the korg mini.