Damn, I came here while searching for ms20 mini patches - and of all places a berhinger clone review has one of the most comprehensive (and well explained) list of creative ms20 patch ideas I have found.. Well done haha.
Yeah-same. Arranging finances now for new K-2 to discuss with Boss in the morning. If I do the coffee ok, and she digs the pancakes, I’m half way home bruh! 😲😀👍😆
Really love loopop's rational, complete synth reviews. He has such a soothing voice. And that jam at the start and the end, I could listen to that for hours... You have a channel to hear what you make, mr loopop?
@@loopop what?! You do NOT sound like you've never released any music... such unused synthesis mega-talent!!! I hope to hear from you: ambient, refined psytrance, synthwave, and melodic techno :)
I've had an first-version MS-20 (with the Korg 35 filter) for over 20 years and can't believe how much I learned from your vid - it's the best MS20 instructional vid I've ever seen. Thank you! Bummer they didn't add a few extra things that I actually did as mods to mine (hard sync of VCO 1 and 2 and also CV PWM input), which add a huge amount of sounds to it. Great vid!!!!
That ESP Osc surprised me, I have the MS20 mini and it never occurred to me to try that. As well as the bitcrushing effect that was awesome dude! There's another method of getting a tunable osc by plugging the Env1 Rev out into the Env1 trig in, then plugging the Env1 out into your parameter. The delay attack and release control tuning, but your method is much more stable. Keep up the great work!
SUPER helpful. I picked up the MS20 mini recently and think it's on its way to becoming one of my favorites but there are some things that I just didn't quite get and this has clarified all of that. As usual, great work. Many thanks.
Looking forward to your review of DivKid/Instruo ochd module in the near future. I love Ben’s intuitive module design/ideation. He really approaches modules from a user’s perspective: straightforward, nice-to-have feature sets in an uncomplicated box.
Compliments to the most professional RUclips blogger about electronica music instruments! He knows what he is talking about! It would be even nicer if you show the parallels and differences between the original MS-20 and the K-2. I prefer the “creamy” sound from the MS-20.
HOLODECK PROJECT The "creamy" sound is probably the new filter. You can toggle between the old and the new filter types on the front panel of the K-2. The MS-20 Vintage is of course hard-wired with one of these filters. With the MS-20 FS you toggle between the filters by holding down the bottom three keys while booting up the unit. The MS-20 Mini has only the old filter. It is much more aggressive, raw and noisy, but doesn't have this "creamy" quality.
Most helpful to an old Roland junkie getting his head around this iconic mystery. It's nice that I finally get it(having gotten one)👍🎛👌. I managed to memorize the control surface layout rather quickly, I can navigate by feel which is great. Not for the easily frustrated though. 🤕
I’ve now got 3 old iPods loaded up with loopop’s vids on 3 of my synths- Modal’s Cobalt, Model D, and just got Neutron. On each iPod I have Loopop’s tips & tricks for that synth. Next, going for the K-2! 😃 Patch info, even sales receipts 😄 Works well!
A most excellent video! I would like to add that both filters at self-resonance can be tracked to V/octave, and with external control from CV/OCD (Mutant Brain) low note /high note, you can play 2 notes of self-oscillation. The MS-20/K2 is quite the versatile beast. Another way I get paraphony is to route the USB on the MS-20Kit to a KentonUSB2MIDI into a CV OCD Low Note Priority for HZ/V output and then feed CV to the VCO2 CV input. No trigger is required as the keybed provided this. As the MS-20Kit is high note, VCO1 will be the highest note, but Kenton provided notes will control VCO2 for the low notes. Of course on one note which is both high note and low note, both VCOs will sound.
Nicely done, very detailed. I already have the Neutron and Crave, but have been taking a close look at the K-2, deciding if I really want to devote more $ to this collection. Your video may have further convinced me to go in that direction, but even if not, many thanks for posting this.
Got one of these from Sweetwater last week. It was not my first choice of Behringer synths, but at $199 and that I can plug my guitar into it, it became my first choice pretty quickly. 😁 Sounds great, but a bit clueless on how to use it, which is why I'm here. Thanks for the great video! 👍
I had one of those Korg ms 20 controllers with the software that came out about 15 years ago, and it could sound pretty wild. Now I 😊just got one of the above versions, and know I understand what all the functions are. I almost wish I didn’t, because before, I would just do random patches that would sound insane hahah . Great overview, and knowing what the ESG section does is really great
Re: Pitch Envelopes - I just dusted off my faithfull Roland JP-8000 which has been resting in a case for over 20 years, and to my surprise found that it too has a dedicated Attack + Decay envelope which applies to pitch on both oscillators! Similarly, there is an Envelope Depth modulation knob, which also allows you to invert the envelope. These become even more interesting along with the Cross Modulation depth of both oscillators! Oh, and I'd like to take a moment to thank you for your wonderful reviews! I would love to hear you cover older synths, like the above mentioned JP-8000, Waldorf, Clavia, etc. - could be a fun trip down the memory lane!
this is the most inspirational vixeo ever! i have a behringer k2 since cupple of months but never managed to make sick sounds. wow gona make some music right noe! 😁
One of the things I love most about your reviews is how I come away from each one with applicable knowledge about how to use the synth. I also find myself continually gaining fundamental understanding of hardware synthesis the more videos I watch of yours. You do a great job of explaining synthesis in a way that just resonates with me. Thanks again, Loopop.
Great review but it should be noted @ 4:40 - this was Korg's own design from around 1978... back when engineers were engineers and musicians also needed to be engineers. :-)
Always loved the MS-20 patchbay schematic. With all the hidden routing of the Behringer Neutron ("where's that PWM coming from ?") I wish it too had one.
The Korg MS20M has the same switchable filter version feature. The switch for the filter version is located similarly. So in a way, the Behringer is sort of like a clone of the MS20M with a smaller footprint. I like the smaller size of the Behringer. The MS20M has an odd width; I love the sound of mine but it is tough to locate conveniently relative to other gear.
Thank you very much, what do you say about the displays whit de spectrum visualizers? How it works? I never can see something like that, i’m very newbe. Greetings from México.
Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV The displays aren’t real unfortunately, just a software overlay
Amazing review as usual. The K-2 is already in my list for future purchase. I really like this dirty sound, it's definitely one of those synths with character, and Behringer has built a quite good clone of it. I would have bought the Korg one if it existed in module.
Alexandros Roussos... it does exist as a module. (MS-20m) www.korg.com/us/products/dj/ms_20mkit/ But it’s pretty expensive (4x’s this price) and getting harder to find. I always wanted one... until Uli released this fella.
Thanks teacher :) Always nice to find good tutorials explaining that strange patchbay on MS the -20. Really appreciate it. And now let's wait for Behringer to take on the VCS3, the OBX, the Emulator 2 (huh?) or, my personal favorite still, the Yamaha CS30 :))
Well, I managed to do almost everything, except in place of the switch you have on the right of the patch bay for holding the S&H value, I have another patch point which links to the momentary switch beneath the Mod Wheel. Thanks, that was cool. The iMS-20 iPad app is a pretty good emulation for £14.
The crazy envelope thing isn't as crazy as it sounds. Basically sustain is always 0v no matter where it's set. With a high sustain level the voltage starts negative and rises to 0v. As you noted, this makes it great for pitch envelopes which would normally require you to retune the oscillator.
Another excellent review, thank you. Why do so many feel the Akai MPC1000 with JJOS2XL is still unmatched as out of the box live sequencer for analog synthesis? Digitackt, Deluge, Blackbox etc, none seem to have the simplicity and power of the old/new MPC1000, which is now rising in price. A comprehensive review of the MPC1000 with latest JJOS, new pads, and 128gb storage would be.....fantastic and useful. Thank you.
Many thanks for your absolutely understandable and detailed description of the K2. I'll have it translated into German and it's still understandable. That's rare for subject-specific things. So a real treasure for me. What I'm still interested in is what kind of oscilloscope you use.
Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV
Amazing video! Some of these patches are super nice! Just picked up the MK II but realised it doesnt have the CV control for OSC 2! So cant do the cool paraphonic stuff 😭😂! wonder why they dropped that? Sync is cool tho..
@loopop Noted discrepancies comparing my Korg MS-20Kit to my Behringer K-2. ON THE ESP SECTION Control situation: a) Feed a signal into SIGNAL IN on the MS-20Kit and note how the PEAK lights as expected. b) Note that the TRIG OUT light WILL not light unless the THRESHOLD LEVEL level is brought up. K-2 situation: a) Feed a signal into SIGNAL IN on the K-2 and note how the PEAK lights as expected. b) Note that the TRIG OUT lights regardless of the setting of the THRESHOLD LEVEL. Can somewhat check this simple situation on their K-2. I'd like to see if it just my K-2, or this is something common to all K-2s.
The analog down sampling part was specially brilliant. 3 views and 4 days later I’m on the verge... debating between this and the Korg mini MS... I think the lettering is clearer on the Behringer, the 2 filter flavours is a + but the keys are so convenient on the Korg... even though I kinda like the B’s format better, it’s really neat... and I play electric guitar and bass a lot (ESP being not just a processor but an input for pitch based controllers as guitars or other synths excites my mind...). My other synths are Toraiz AS-1, Waldorf Q, MODX6 and a Mooger fooger filter unit that makes wonders adding fat and butter (and crunch if pushed).
@loopop FWIW In light of Behringer’s recent antics, I sold all my Behringer gear today and used the money to buy a Access Virus desktop module. Feeling pretty good about it. Keep up the great work!
This synth is definitely not my cup of cake, and yet listening to you play with it so self-forgettingly makes me want to grab one. The main reason why it's such a hard sell for me is inability to patch it to other Eurorack synths directly due to difference in voltages.
Nice video! How would you compare the bass of K2 to original Korg MS20 or reissue MS20 mini... does it have that fat bass sound typical for MS20? Thanks and best regards.
If this had MIDI Out I could have used the K2 to control the parameters of my soft synths. Still watched the whole video as you make them so enjoyable.
Thanks for the video, very helpful. I have a Keylab II that I cannot get to work with the wheel mod trick you showed. Could you shed some light on the settings you changed to get it to work please?
Sempre a inovar! Eu nem sabia que dava para fazer de teclado uma guitarra! Genial! Sou um fã teu desde que subscrevi o teu canal! Eu estou a começar agora a tocar sintetizadores e para já só tenho um Novation Circuit mas aprendi bastante contigo! Obrigado!
Had 2 KORG MS20s in the 90s , no idea which filters they both had, never gave them a good fiddle , too busy on the SH5. . TBH i had no idea they sounded this good. PeaceFromOZ
There's quite of bit of delay between the guitar strum and the CV note at 19:30. Is that really happening or is it just a delay between the mic recording and the synth recording?
Hey great video! I am thingking about buying one of these but I have one question. I play bass guitar an I want to know if I can change the sound of my bass with this synth instead of the bass controlling the synth if you know What i mean. Ty!
Love your videos (watched the Pro-1 multiple times) What plugin do you use to show the note frequencies? Would love to know that that is. I have been using ProQ3, but this one seems to better suited for this purpose.
Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV
Thanks for the excellent video and nice ideas! Is there a way (or hack) to activate the manual trigger with a footpedal? This could be great with the paraphonic-trigger patch :)
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Damn, I came here while searching for ms20 mini patches - and of all places a berhinger clone review has one of the most comprehensive (and well explained) list of creative ms20 patch ideas I have found.. Well done haha.
Yeah-same. Arranging finances now for new K-2 to discuss with Boss in the morning. If I do the coffee ok, and she digs the pancakes, I’m half way home bruh! 😲😀👍😆
Long time synthist, just got the K2 and never had a MS-20 - this video was the most perfect accelerator of my learning the K2. THANK YOU!
So happy Behringer has freed us from chasing vintage synths.
Yeah, now we just have to chase around the shops to find the Behringer ones :)
@@niknayme3754 just order 'em and spend time on your favorite DAW & plugins, waiting - I know I do :-)
@@Goettel I don't like plugins or DAWs.
I still chase the budget ones.....the few that still exist.
Any beds how long they last?
You really do the most useful and inspiring tutorials around ! Best RUclips Synth channel since these last years in my humble opinion. Bravo !
This and Marc Doty's videos on the original ms20 are essential for anyone who owns or is interested this synth. Great video!
Really love loopop's rational, complete synth reviews. He has such a soothing voice. And that jam at the start and the end, I could listen to that for hours... You have a channel to hear what you make, mr loopop?
Thanks! Currently I offer music from my videos for download on Patreon, but a first album will be coming out soon
Agreed...best reviews on RUclips.
@@loopop what?! You do NOT sound like you've never released any music... such unused synthesis mega-talent!!!
I hope to hear from you: ambient, refined psytrance, synthwave, and melodic techno :)
@@crapopotateptl thanks - two albums already out :)
@@loopop Gotta check em out..
I've had an first-version MS-20 (with the Korg 35 filter) for over 20 years and can't believe how much I learned from your vid - it's the best MS20 instructional vid I've ever seen. Thank you! Bummer they didn't add a few extra things that I actually did as mods to mine (hard sync of VCO 1 and 2 and also CV PWM input), which add a huge amount of sounds to it. Great vid!!!!
That little modular skiff is so adorable 🥰 I need one now!
I really thought this was more expensive, so for £269 it was an easy purchase.
Really great review, thank you.
$199 now 😊
That finger snap trick blew me away. I had to slow it down to fully appreciate it.
That ESP Osc surprised me, I have the MS20 mini and it never occurred to me to try that. As well as the bitcrushing effect that was awesome dude! There's another method of getting a tunable osc by plugging the Env1 Rev out into the Env1 trig in, then plugging the Env1 out into your parameter. The delay attack and release control tuning, but your method is much more stable. Keep up the great work!
Lovely jam at the start and end!
Thanks!!
What jam ?Strawberry?
Yes... chanelling Nick Batt?
More like Radiohead in this case but I love Nick’s work too...
A "jam" has more than one musician. Just sayin'.
Trust me, i was waiting for your K2 review. Great as always!
Thanks!
Just an amazing job with these tutorial videos. I learned so much and at the same time, realized how much I still don’t know.
Love the jam in the beginning and end, reminds me a lot of Alessandro Cortini. Think this will be the first remake I finally buy from Behringer!
And... what happened?
Would love to see you do a vid on the ms-20 and see all the cool things you do with the momentary switch : )
SUPER helpful. I picked up the MS20 mini recently and think it's on its way to becoming one of my favorites but there are some things that I just didn't quite get and this has clarified all of that. As usual, great work. Many thanks.
Looking forward to your review of DivKid/Instruo ochd module in the near future. I love Ben’s intuitive module design/ideation. He really approaches modules from a user’s perspective: straightforward, nice-to-have feature sets in an uncomplicated box.
Indeed the design and module are fun! There won't be a dedicated review though, he did a really good job explaining it actually
ideation. ffs.
Ideation= idea + implementation ... love it...
The moment with guitar shoked me ‼️never thought it was possible ‼️
Compliments to the most professional RUclips blogger about electronica music instruments! He knows what he is talking about!
It would be even nicer if you show the parallels and differences between the original MS-20 and the K-2. I prefer the “creamy” sound from the MS-20.
HOLODECK PROJECT The "creamy" sound is probably the new filter. You can toggle between the old and the new filter types on the front panel of the K-2. The MS-20 Vintage is of course hard-wired with one of these filters. With the MS-20 FS you toggle between the filters by holding down the bottom three keys while booting up the unit. The MS-20 Mini has only the old filter. It is much more aggressive, raw and noisy, but doesn't have this "creamy" quality.
Most helpful to an old Roland junkie getting his head around this iconic mystery. It's nice that I finally get it(having gotten one)👍🎛👌. I managed to memorize the control surface layout rather quickly, I can navigate by feel which is great.
Not for the easily frustrated though. 🤕
I’ve now got 3 old iPods loaded up with loopop’s vids on 3 of my synths- Modal’s Cobalt, Model D, and just got Neutron. On each iPod I have Loopop’s tips & tricks for that synth. Next, going for the K-2! 😃 Patch info, even sales receipts 😄 Works well!
A most excellent video!
I would like to add that both filters at self-resonance can be tracked to V/octave, and with external control from CV/OCD (Mutant Brain) low note /high note, you can play 2 notes of self-oscillation.
The MS-20/K2 is quite the versatile beast.
Another way I get paraphony is to route the USB on the MS-20Kit to a KentonUSB2MIDI into a CV OCD Low Note Priority for HZ/V output and then feed CV to the VCO2 CV input. No trigger is required as the keybed provided this. As the MS-20Kit is high note, VCO1 will be the highest note, but Kenton provided notes will control VCO2 for the low notes. Of course on one note which is both high note and low note, both VCOs will sound.
Wow! I finally (sort of) understand my MS-20! Thank you sir and happy new year!
Nicely done, very detailed. I already have the Neutron and Crave, but have been taking a close look at the K-2, deciding if I really want to devote more $ to this collection. Your video may have further convinced me to go in that direction, but even if not, many thanks for posting this.
Got one of these from Sweetwater last week. It was not my first choice of Behringer synths, but at $199 and that I can plug my guitar into it, it became my first choice pretty quickly. 😁 Sounds great, but a bit clueless on how to use it, which is why I'm here. Thanks for the great video! 👍
Missed this release. Great vid.
This has inspired me to get my 70's MS-20 fixed up! Screwdriver to the ready....
No knob unturned, thank you again Mr.Loopop - most appreciated
I had one of those Korg ms 20 controllers with the software that came out about 15 years ago, and it could sound pretty wild. Now I 😊just got one of the above versions, and know I understand what all the functions are. I almost wish I didn’t, because before, I would just do random patches that would sound insane hahah . Great overview, and knowing what the ESG section does is really great
What a beautiful opening sequence.
Loved the outro..
I have the ms 20 mini, and this was very informative, thanks.
Thanks!
Nice melody at the end ! Be cool if behringer realesed polyphonic version with some new features !
Re: Pitch Envelopes - I just dusted off my faithfull Roland JP-8000 which has been resting in a case for over 20 years, and to my surprise found that it too has a dedicated Attack + Decay envelope which applies to pitch on both oscillators! Similarly, there is an Envelope Depth modulation knob, which also allows you to invert the envelope. These become even more interesting along with the Cross Modulation depth of both oscillators!
Oh, and I'd like to take a moment to thank you for your wonderful reviews! I would love to hear you cover older synths, like the above mentioned JP-8000, Waldorf, Clavia, etc. - could be a fun trip down the memory lane!
this is the most inspirational vixeo ever! i have a behringer k2 since cupple of months but never managed to make sick sounds. wow gona make some music right noe! 😁
I’ve been waiting for this one! Brilliant once again :)
And... did you get one?
"To continue this riveting discussion about standards..."
This is my favorite segue of all time.
Loopop created an analog Delay Lama. What a champion.
How did you know i recently bought this sweet classic? Great video, thanks again.
33:23 Tripped me up. Legit thought you were magic for a moment.
Another quality Loopop review, what a treat. Thanks Loopop, awesome as always.
One of the things I love most about your reviews is how I come away from each one with applicable knowledge about how to use the synth. I also find myself continually gaining fundamental understanding of hardware synthesis the more videos I watch of yours. You do a great job of explaining synthesis in a way that just resonates with me.
Thanks again, Loopop.
my pleasure - thanks for the comment!
OUTSTANDING video! Congrats and thanks! Great soundtrack at the end, too :)
Great review but it should be noted @ 4:40 - this was Korg's own design from around 1978... back when engineers were engineers and musicians also needed to be engineers. :-)
☺️
Always loved the MS-20 patchbay schematic. With all the hidden routing of the Behringer Neutron ("where's that PWM coming from ?") I wish it too had one.
i just bought this synth. and thank christ for this video
How’s it growing on you?
Ahahah
Excellent tips on the patch bay. Especially that ESP drone oscillator and duophony.
The Korg MS20M has the same switchable filter version feature. The switch for the filter version is located similarly. So in a way, the Behringer is sort of like a clone of the MS20M with a smaller footprint. I like the smaller size of the Behringer. The MS20M has an odd width; I love the sound of mine but it is tough to locate conveniently relative to other gear.
yeah, i wanted the ms20m but they manufactured too low amount of them and the second hand prices are bonkers
Thank you very much, what do you say about the displays whit de spectrum visualizers? How it works? I never can see something like that, i’m very newbe. Greetings from México.
Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV The displays aren’t real unfortunately, just a software overlay
40:40 OMG ! goose bump ❤
( headphones on )
Amazing review as usual. The K-2 is already in my list for future purchase. I really like this dirty sound, it's definitely one of those synths with character, and Behringer has built a quite good clone of it. I would have bought the Korg one if it existed in module.
Alexandros Roussos... it does exist as a module. (MS-20m)
www.korg.com/us/products/dj/ms_20mkit/
But it’s pretty expensive (4x’s this price) and getting harder to find.
I always wanted one... until Uli released this fella.
this small Eurorack box is sooo cute! You just forced me into getting/making one. p.s.: great review as always ❤︎
That "ring" oscillator is amazing
Excellent review! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and passion. I always learn a lot watching your videos.
Thanks teacher :) Always nice to find good tutorials explaining that strange patchbay on MS the -20. Really appreciate it.
And now let's wait for Behringer to take on the VCS3, the OBX, the Emulator 2 (huh?) or, my personal favorite still, the Yamaha CS30 :))
I have a CS 15 that I love. I bought it in '79 I believe. After seeing the CS 30 with the sequencer I always wanted one of those.
Lots of golden nuggets in this video.
Thank you !
Excellent review! Thanks for clearly explaining its quirks - that's very valuable, well done!
I found this video perfect also as a tutorial for Korg MS20 mini!
I'm going to try your tips on iMS-20 and see how it goes. Will report back at the end of the video.
Well, I managed to do almost everything, except in place of the switch you have on the right of the patch bay for holding the S&H value, I have another patch point which links to the momentary switch beneath the Mod Wheel. Thanks, that was cool. The iMS-20 iPad app is a pretty good emulation for £14.
The crazy envelope thing isn't as crazy as it sounds. Basically sustain is always 0v no matter where it's set. With a high sustain level the voltage starts negative and rises to 0v. As you noted, this makes it great for pitch envelopes which would normally require you to retune the oscillator.
Another excellent review, thank you. Why do so many feel the Akai MPC1000 with JJOS2XL is still unmatched as out of the box live sequencer for analog synthesis? Digitackt, Deluge, Blackbox etc, none seem to have the simplicity and power of the old/new MPC1000, which is now rising in price. A comprehensive review of the MPC1000 with latest JJOS, new pads, and 128gb storage would be.....fantastic and useful. Thank you.
I wish i could give this video 2 thumbs up, because i still have 2 of them 👍👍
Love the patch ideas.
Many thanks for your absolutely understandable and detailed description of the K2. I'll have it translated into German and it's still understandable. That's rare for subject-specific things. So a real treasure for me. What I'm still interested in is what kind of oscilloscope you use.
Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV
@@loopop Thanks for the quick reply and that on Sunday. ;-) I'll take a look.
@@loopop Wow, that's exactly what I've always been looking for. Thank you very much for the tip!
I really like your composition of sounds on this video Mr Op. Nice and evocative stuff.
best youtube channel, by far!
thank you so much!
Additional tip: if you want to get "aggressive esp" trick with old filter type, use headphone out rather than signal out
Bro you just made my K-2 150% cooler!
Dude! Your reviews are so great!
another amazing and fully comprehensive review 👍
And here we have someone who REALLY understands modular synthesis.
It's those "screaming" filters that made me buy the MS20 nearly forty years ago 😀
These reviews you do are fantastic. Thanks so much!
Amazing video! Some of these patches are super nice! Just picked up the MK II but realised it doesnt have the CV control for OSC 2! So cant do the cool paraphonic stuff 😭😂! wonder why they dropped that? Sync is cool tho..
Oh man, you really are a wonder to me. Thank you!
@loopop
Noted discrepancies comparing my Korg MS-20Kit to my Behringer K-2.
ON THE ESP SECTION
Control situation:
a) Feed a signal into SIGNAL IN on the MS-20Kit and note how the PEAK lights as expected.
b) Note that the TRIG OUT light WILL not light unless the THRESHOLD LEVEL level is brought up.
K-2 situation:
a) Feed a signal into SIGNAL IN on the K-2 and note how the PEAK lights as expected.
b) Note that the TRIG OUT lights regardless of the setting of the THRESHOLD LEVEL.
Can somewhat check this simple situation on their K-2.
I'd like to see if it just my K-2, or this is something common to all K-2s.
The analog down sampling part was specially brilliant.
3 views and 4 days later I’m on the verge... debating between this and the Korg mini MS...
I think the lettering is clearer on the Behringer, the 2 filter flavours is a + but the keys are so convenient on the Korg... even though I kinda like the B’s format better, it’s really neat... and I play electric guitar and bass a lot (ESP being not just a processor but an input for pitch based controllers as guitars or other synths excites my mind...).
My other synths are Toraiz AS-1, Waldorf Q, MODX6 and a Mooger fooger filter unit that makes wonders adding fat and butter (and crunch if pushed).
@loopop FWIW In light of Behringer’s recent antics, I sold all my Behringer gear today and used the money to buy a Access Virus desktop module. Feeling pretty good about it. Keep up the great work!
I own a Make Noise 0-ctrl and love it. Is it possible to use the K-2 with CV/Gate only?
This synth is definitely not my cup of cake, and yet listening to you play with it so self-forgettingly makes me want to grab one. The main reason why it's such a hard sell for me is inability to patch it to other Eurorack synths directly due to difference in voltages.
Inability is a strong word ;)
@@GoodLuckHolly "directly" is an even stronger one
The old MS20 filter sounds a lot like the Roland System 100 (1975) filter. The System 100 has a diode ladder filter, perhaps this does too?
I have a k2 i was lost on it til i watched this.
Nice video! How would you compare the bass of K2 to original Korg MS20 or reissue MS20 mini... does it have that fat bass sound typical for MS20? Thanks and best regards.
Here's a comparaison I did of the three MS20's. Which one is your favorite ?
ruclips.net/video/MYW9lbUTIxY/видео.html
Thanks! There are quite a few comparison videos out there. Bass here sounds pretty good to me...
Are you planning on reviewing the K-2 MKII anytime soon? It'd be good to see a comparison demo between the changes, particularly FM.
No such plans sorry
Great Tutorial, sounds great!
You can't connect white noise with pink cable! :-D... ok, as usual, brilliant video.
Fantastic video as always. Start & end jams... NIN inspired, I'm guessing?
No just me but maybe subconsciously... which song?
@@loopop No song in particular, just felt it had a very Nine Inch Nails sort of out. Really great though.
0:07 What gives a pulse to the sound? The key on the MIDI controller is pressed all the time...
and LFO or looping envelope
Thank you! A very good review :)
If this had MIDI Out I could have used the K2 to control the parameters of my soft synths.
Still watched the whole video as you make them so enjoyable.
Get the pro 1 then. It has midi out
Thanks for the video, very helpful. I have a Keylab II that I cannot get to work with the wheel mod trick you showed. Could you shed some light on the settings you changed to get it to work please?
Sempre a inovar! Eu nem sabia que dava para fazer de teclado uma guitarra! Genial! Sou um fã teu desde que subscrevi o teu canal! Eu estou a começar agora a tocar sintetizadores e para já só tenho um Novation Circuit mas aprendi bastante contigo! Obrigado!
Wow such innovation from Behringer! What will they think of next?!
Had 2 KORG MS20s in the 90s , no idea which filters they both had, never gave them a good fiddle , too busy on the SH5. .
TBH i had no idea they sounded this good.
PeaceFromOZ
Im new to all this. What do i start with? Neutron, Model D, Pro 1, this? Too much options and I dont understand what does what lol
There's quite of bit of delay between the guitar strum and the CV note at 19:30. Is that really happening or is it just a delay between the mic recording and the synth recording?
at 36:50 keystep note priority on my control midi center doesn't show up, i have a keystep pro.
Any help?
29:00
Something that the original was missing was an extra output ( on the back of the behringer ) when using feedback loops
The original has both a headphone and line out. Feedback loops were easy on the original and the mini.
Hey great video! I am thingking about buying one of these but I have one question. I play bass guitar an I want to know if I can change the sound of my bass with this synth instead of the bass controlling the synth if you know What i mean. Ty!
Excellent video! Is it possible to change the pitch of the ESP oscillator (00:30:10) with an external keyboard or with KBD CV OUT?
Thanks! Not that I can currently think of...
Love your videos (watched the Pro-1 multiple times) What plugin do you use to show the note frequencies? Would love to know that that is. I have been using ProQ3, but this one seems to better suited for this purpose.
Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV
@@loopop Ah brilliant. Thank you for the info.
Thanks for the excellent video and nice ideas! Is there a way (or hack) to activate the manual trigger with a footpedal? This could be great with the paraphonic-trigger patch :)
I'm pretty sure with what I'll be spending on Behringer, I will be financing Uli's kitchen remodel.