Review: DIGITAKT II vs OG Digitakt // Everything new in Digitakt 2 // Detailed tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:10 New pages
1:45 KB button
2:10 Preset/Kit
2:40 128 steps
3:00 Overbridge?
3:40 16 audio tracks
4:40 Stereo
4:50 Storage
5:40 Sample pool x8
6:40 Kits
7:00 Perform kit
8:25 Stretch machine
9:55 Filter machines
11:40 Comb filter
12:30 Euclidean seq
14:10 Trig modes
16:20 Page loops
17:10 Prepare mutes
17:55 New FX
19:00 Bypass compress
19:55 Control almost all
21:00 Glide/glissando
21:25 Expression mods
22:10 MIDI learn
23:10 Name CCs
22:45 New LFOs, env
24:00 Trig conditions
25:00 Chains & misc
25:35 Pros and cons
29:00 Factory patterns
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16 cowbells in stereo, I'm ready!
128 times!
Drop that tempo down and make the ultimate drone synth
a dynamite sound 🧨
don't forget to resample them all into one track, then do the same for all 16 tracks. That way you'll have 256 layers of cowbell. You'll have all the moosic you need
We need more cowbells!
Well, time to sell my Digitakt I that I've never used to buy a Digitakt II that I'll never use.
Yeah that sums up my experience perfectly. It was a total pain in the arse, still own it and I still haven't made it integrate with anything
I need to answer this...Digitakt is great..u guys miss out all the fun and perfect for live setups...its limited, i know. But i make great tracks with it..and still one of the better samplers..great midi device too
@@tobi-y7862 I need to answer this - a fair point… I think my issue was initially the steep learning curve which I got over, but my main issue was that most track builds used all 8 slots, mono, the delay / reverb was the only way to make stereo (sensibly) and then you hit the ceiling unless midi’d to other toys. Then it becomes a mixing nightmare as it’s just 2 outputs. The new DT2 should address a lot of the issues for me, as I really want it to be standalone.
Electronic music scene in a nutshell.
I can't comprehend how you carry yourself that way and how people find this relatable? These machines go deep but are incredibly easy to dive into and get lost and find your own path.
It’s a good update. It’s almost like they’ve been listening to the community for the last 7 years.
But DT1 owners are not happy now.
@@noizekiller I’m a DT1 owner since launch. I’m fine. It doesn’t change what I can do on my DT.
It’s not an update it’s a new machine. As a DT1 owner I’d be happy if they were able to just add stereo to DT1. But they didn’t so I’m pissed off and going to angrily give them money.
@@noizekiller yeah, down with progress ✊
@@colinbrash are you sure its possible hardware wise?
As long time octatracker mk2 I will say that whole video my eyebrows was up - so much pain and impossibilities on octatrack they solved here, and I’m not overreacting, just cold minded conclusion.
Thank you for deep tutorial!
I love how you can choose how many midi tracks you want rather than being stuck with eight.
When we forget history, its easy to say that. They long have had the formula, now capitalism is awry at elektron HQ. This is sad.
@@bernardlindeman739 Chill out.
@@bernardlindeman739 I’m aware of that, Ive owned a MachineDrum since the first year they were produced and it had the same functionality, to which I assume you are referring.
@@bernardlindeman739 I bought a Machine Drum the first year they came out and Im aware it has the same ability, I suppose that is what you’re referring to. Now if they excluded it on the first version of the Digitakt due to greed is debatable, however I would assume it was nothing more than the fact that it was a design they thought people would like…. 8 sample and 8 midi.
An MPC60 from 1987 had four separate midi outs, each with 16 channels. Thats 64 poly midi channels. Confuses me why Elektron locks down so many machines with ultra limited midi channels.
I want to thank you loopie from the bottom of my heart ❤️ you are amazingly generous with your mastery of everything synth and drum machine
Saw this was leaked last night, woke up to a loopop review. Everything is good in the world.
Except for the wars
Thanks so much for the video! Very interested in this, Digitakt is so fun but the mono samples especially were a real downer.
Great. Can’t wait to get a used one next year!!
That was great. Ordered.
So impressed with the usability upgrades too
And no slicing didn’t stop you? Sampler… in 2024. No slicing.
@@roman13rooms if you think about it more as a drum machine... it is still the most selling elektron ever
Loopop with the digitakt 2 scoop 🙌🏻🙌🏻
It's 5:00 AM and that blew my brain up!! Thanks!!
Great breakdown as usual! Thank you! I've owned the Digi 1 since the early days and have been quite happy with it but always had the shortcoming in the back of my mind. This 2nd version really becomes a very mature product and a very versatile tool for studio as well as live PA and amazing bang for buck in my opinion.
I managed to resist the upgrade for 2 days, before faltering. I am proud of my achievement. :-D
Standard great review. Worth being a Patreon to keep these coming...
Much appreciated!
Very impressive review !
Waw what an update!
And as always, the best reviewer!
As always, nicely done. Great comprehensive review, @loopop.
That comb filter looked pretty sweet
There is SO much good stuff here.
Once i saw the announcement, went straight to youtube. Loopop never fails 😁
loopop review are the only review worth watching. He goes over everything and isn't just hyping it up he's just giving us facts.
Great update, review and demo 👌🔥🤘
Definitely buying
As usual great video and what a fantastic update to beloved Digitakt, seriously a no brainer!
You had me at the unwritten rule for the cowbell 😂. Cool stuff and thank you, as always, for your review. This helps with important decisions about wallet contents for many people. ❤
From random rumor I didn't pay much mind too earlier this week/last week - to a Loopop video in my feed after work? Nice. On the list it goes for possible future consideration.
Fantastic overview !
"Crossfades for loops to avoid clipping" : thx for saying that loud ;)
I love the clickiness of the buttons on that thing
They stick after a while
Me too, but my wife says she can hear them across the apartment and it drives her crazy 😅
@@vyrvygora I could imagine! Lol I had to get the new Asus keyboard with sound dampening in it for that very purpose
Really? I think they are ridiculous. The rubber buttons on my mc909 and tr6s are much better
@@vyrvygora Have your wife soundproofed. Lag her in baffles. Things are afoot.
Love that kits is add on to previous workflow. :)
As a Digitakt OG owner, I think the Mk2 is a great update, some of my fav features are the euclidean mode, and of course the extended pattern range to 128 steps and not to mention the 16 tracks for sampling, although, does it make me want to upgrade, probably not at this point, what would have been great is, and this is just my opinion, an internal battery, making this truly portable. I must say, the one update i am really looking forward to, if there is one, is the Octatrack v3. great video as always.
@@StatetrooperBillyBilli am definitely buying this for my syntakt right now.
@@StatetrooperBillyBillhm unfortunately the install on a syntakt would be more risky due to less space, higher power consumption and more heat. I’ll get a powerbank instead.
I got a USB to 12v cable so I can power my digitone and a controller from a battery bank, it's pretty nice and lasts many hours.
@@StatetrooperBillyBill thanks, I shall explore that for sure!
@@sunsettribe If you build one, use heat shrink and not the plastic battery holders or it won't fit. I did the battery mod. Super easy.
Great review 👏🏽
Hmmm 🤔 instead of upgrading my Ableton license I might do this 😅 great overview as always ❤
Wow I really like the sound of that multimode filter.
Didn't even have to watch more than 10 mins of this before going to Thomann. Phenomenal update for a legendary machine.
It's sold on Thomann? Haven't noticed.
Good one, I did the same after 5-7 min I guess 🤣
The same.
yea thanks it sold out in a hurry. :P
Also legendary price nearly 1K.
You made this faster than I preordered it 😅
Well they sent him the unit so don't feel tooooooo bad... with your new instrument 🤤
When he got the filter machines I started looking to see who has them for sale. WOW. I wasn't going to get one, now I have to have one.
Nice! It now competes with the Sp404mk2!
Great video, thanks!
I see a lot of nice things to come to my Syntakt as well..
Yes! Hopefully!
OMG. I still haven't managed to update my Analog Four & Rytm to the MK2 versions, and now this thing appears. My backlog is growing.
Value, value, value.... again and again. Thanks for your incomproable quality and delivery over all these all these years!
It looks like what everyone wanted! Dope stuff
Definitely more than an update from the last version!
Great update, truly. I'm bummed there's no SD card support though. I just want all my samples in one place. 20GB internal storage is a big improvement over the original, but I just know I'd spend too much time swapping around sample packs
Yea Bang on! an SD card slot is all i wanted! & would have clinched it for me I dont want arbitrary limits on my sounds and filtering through them to fit takes to much time....20Gigs though by electron standards is a massive upgrade so for many it will be enough for many... but an SD Slot would have solved all storage complaints!
Thanks for your great job!
Nice review and tutorial! Thanks for sharing. One thing I noticed was for the "conditions" were updated with new features however the max is still only 8:8 I was hoping to see maybe them give us a 12:12 or even 16:16, considering we can now utilize longer samples and now have up to 128 steps! 😢
Digitakt supporting stereo samples : thats enough for me.
FR, digitakt 1 seemed like the perfect sampler, but mono only turned a no-brainer in to a no-way-I'm-spending-a-grand-on-that
@@OttosTheName polyphony > stereo. Even stereo, there is no way I spent more that a grant for a monophonic sampler. Still a show stopper for me.
the future is now 🤣
@@pablobarria296no, the present is now
@@pablobarria296😂 i know & folk still aren't satisfied, i mean back in the day u were lucky to get a couple seconds of sampling!!!
I hope some of the less cpu intensive QOL changes can be ported to the digitakt 1. I will get one, but there is nothing so far that makes me NEED one right now. That pleases me and my growing debt burden.
hardware insturments in todays world is not a need.
...i fast-forwarded to the compressor section (since no multi-outs). With effective sidechain I'm In.
Totally. The sidechain compressor that also squashed the sound that triggered it was infuriating.
Correction: Both Polyend machines are cheaper than DT mk2. in the US at least. Great vid as always.
Dang, that Fabrikøren pattern was wild.
Awesome video man. I’ve always liked Elektron but the hardware always seemed like a riot to use. The little changes in workflow etc have clicked with my brain for some reason in the Digitakt II though so I can finally add them to my ever growing gear list!
To clarify, this is the gear wish list we all have in our heads. Not some opulent home studio set up with all the synths hahah!
Nice. I went the route of keeping my DT 1 ( for drums duties now ) and getting an OT mkii for start/end chops and stereo sampling and that dope crossfader. Cant believe the thing is 13yrs old, its the shit
All I ever wanted. Ordered
All I want is an Octatrack with 32bit sound quality and Analog heat +fx grade effect per channel.
The compressor update ... finally proper ducking
and it's still just f*cking sidechain taking away the only compressor you have
There is no doubt that the MK2 has made a big step forward.
Personally, I hope that some basic functions will be available in Digitakt 1. Such as saving kits, glide or euclidean seq.
Great review and summary!
Best Regards :)
mind-blowing. bravo. little surprised no elk-herd-like sample&project management though
I just told my boss to direct deposit my paycheck this week to Digitakt
the comb filter would definitely be nice. also the ability to have a filter to play with whilst also applying a notch
Nice upgrades.
Ha. I just bought an sp404mk2 thinking that was my best option for getting steel samples into my sampling rig. Excited about this but also loving the sp
For playing live they might go well togther
@loopop
Looks really good.
One thing I find missing is an FX track.......
Since they are going all in on the machines idea, they should really implement an FX track as a selectable machine, like the sampler and midi machines.
And also I think they should have left the isolator filter as a second filter. Filter 1 is the selectable on and then filter 2 is the HP/LP isolator filter.
Anyway.... Really cool thing 🙂
Pretty good. I'm tempted to sell my DT to buy one of these, but I suspect in the coming weeks the price of a second hand DT will plunge.
Let’s hope another analog keys in the future!! 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Cool review 👍I keep my mk1 but soon i go mk2 ❤
Ok so questions on external input not covered:
1. Does external input go through master drive?
2. Can you use the compressor bypass on external audio?
Great upgrade, but honestly i prefer the green on black screen, might just scoop up two old ones in the inevitable, ebay surge 😃
Thank you! You just saved me $1000. I have an original and I think these updates are great but don’t justify the cost of an upgrade. Awesome for new users though. A lot of these features could have been a firmware update. I wonder if some will make it back to the original digitakt.
My pleasure - I aim to tell it like it is! BTW I don't think stereo, double the polyphony, more RAM/storage and mods can be firmware updates... but this certainly doesn't make the original less capable
@@loopop totally agree! The new FX, Kit system and the Euclidean stuff could be back ported though.
@@ryanriley8173 Well you would need to know architecture of hardware to know that
I wish they implemented buffers on the digitakt like they have on the OT. Live sampling into buffers and chopping/sequencing them on thr fly makes the OT a true instrument.
I like the werp mode. I do that sometimes in Ableton to simulate tremolo.
I plan on keeping my OG Digitakt, and eventually adding this to my collection. I'll probably wait to get one used, or a sale, though. I'm not seeing anything that makes me need it now. It's still a cool addition to Elektron's collection. I own more Elektron gear, than any other manufacturer. I'm still waiting on them to make an AnalogHeat mixer, or even multi-track recorder/looper. It would be awesome to have a 6-12 track AnalogHeat+FX.
solid update, really looks great! however without some kind of decent polyphony implementation (group tracks, manipulate sample across them) it's a no from me. no manual sample slicing is also a bit of a bummer.
Midi learn is that what I need!
Hype!
Thanks for a killer walkthrough @loopop ! I haven't been able to find anywhere: do you know if the midi thru passes PB/AT, etc. on the new machine? That's been a weird drawback of the first model (all the "takt" machines in fact). I've tried to use my midi channels as a synth selector of sort to use my Hydrasynth as a master keybed, but I've had to do some weird workarounds with my mioXL to still pass Aftertouch to the hydrasynth....
Would love to see a Granular sampler added to the machines in the future!
Yes! And a looper!
I was waiting for the octatrack 3 but I have to get this one
Bought immediately
so nice that now we can have 16 one shots on stereo
daaamn, flexible kits is my favourite thing, with 3 LFOs, life performance heaven
And I thought I wouldn't see this for a week or a month.
Hopefully they beef up the AR and make a 3 with all these extra channels and super fun stuff. I don't care if they just have 8 analog channels but 16 total.. would be amazeballs with all the extras on the new digi
the factory patterns are sick
Means the other boxes in line with the Digitakt MKI will also be upgraded some time soon.
Hoy! Thanx a lot! Your videos are reference class!
It would be hard to offer an equal major update to the octatrack. Sadly I think an granular mode will stay in my dreams and in no competition to torso S4 😢
It would be the killing factor to OT and DTmkII
Greetings and thanx lot
I think now we can forget an Octratrack 3
does it have multiple inputs and outputs??
Its logical man. They improve on what sells
Still not for live sets so dont worry
@@rijksvoorlichtingsdienst4427 why not?
Ye I’d bet money there’s still an OTIII just beyond the horizon. The DT and OT fulfill significantly different use-cases. I just hope the next OT has full overbridge support!
Hi! Have Elektron fixed MIDI Aftertouch / Modwheel messages on Midi Out from external devices? Also can we now record AT/MW changes?
Great machine! Although still not the improvements I was waiting for: realtime retrigger, solo in mute mode, and direct jump between patterns. Not to mention Scenes! Probably a new flagship sampler is coming...
I'm fine with my old Digi though - it's pretty capable, I barely need more features as at the end of the day I also have Syntakt, Akai Force, Ableton and bunch of VST synths :)
Really hope some of those QoL features and the chorus effect make it on to the Syntakt in a future update
DT is an awesome box! Can't wait for Elektron to send me a Mk2 too! ;)
Damn he got one already
the heck? I just learned about this today and you already have a video on it lol
I had it early
My question is: why all of these new gears have tiny, low res, pixelated screens? Is it hard for them to add better screens with a more refined UI? I do enjoy some nice visuals too so this basic minimal stuff is a bit jarring to me
Great demo of cool new features! Does prepare mute and/or a sample trig for a longer audio sample have an option to launch on the next downbeat like ableton clips?
Thanks! No, but that's what different patterns are for - pattern swaps are "quantized"
Sidechain compression can be used also on external input?
Damn. It's so good
I’m just wondering. If the factory presets are ever good enough/considered good enough to make it onto an official recording, or whether they’re disregarded in favour of original sound design(?)
Are you able to import projects and patterns from the original Digitakt without any issues?
Yep.
Very cool and plenty scope for firmware updates down the road. Wicked.