No connexion with our previous discussion, but since I am around: Let me thank you for the work you do for the community with your channel. Your reviews and demos have been of great help assembling my setup when I decided to give a try at modularity, a few months ago. 👍
My Taiga lives in a 5 module rack with a Subharmonicon, Mother-32 and 2 x DFAM all playing nicely with each other. This video, like so many other Loopop videos was instrumental in my purchase decision. I am looking at switching out the Attack pots for logarithmic equivalents to see if it gives finer control over short attack times. Keep up the good work Ziv (and stay safe).
@@beezzarro that's just silly. All manufacturers base their prices on the Build of Materials (BOM) plus a specific formula to get to their wholesale and retail prices that is fairly standard in the industry. In the case of the Piano Bar, it retailed for $1500.
@@Genshi I mean the number I mentioned was, of course, a joke. But Buchla gear is insanely priced. You cannot convince me that you need to be paying $2k for a rhythm generator when there are 10+ alternatives for a quarter of that.
Sounds fantastic, as anything from Pittsburgh does. Finally a suitable heir and upgrade from the SV1. You went all Suzanne Ciani on it a few times there, and there definately is a Buchla'esque character peaking through. Very delightful and the LPG seems to sound great. Thanks for a great review Ziv!
Microvolt might not be a upgrade, but had buckets of character and was atleast as good as sv1. Much better than it seemed and still had a quality that even this is not quite there.. it was very lovable once you actually used it, way more dense then it seemed.
You make these instruments sound so mucn more musical than most reviewers. I always checkout sonicstate too, but this channel is thedaddy. Only a few seconds into this video I'm thinking "want". That sweep of the third oscillator at about 0:53 turned it from want to buy.
Great review, as always. Been dragging my feet about stepping into modular/hardware, mainly because of $$. Took a sound design course using Reaktor which gave me a foundation. This Taiga may be just what does it for me. The price seems very reasonable for what you get. Thanks.
Great review… this is a fantastic instrument. I always wondered if Pittsburgh Modular would have follow-up act to the excellent Microvolt 3900. I started getting worried they weren’t going to do any more. This would be awesome if this could fit in the Moog tier system (along with the Subharmonicon, DFAM, & Mother-32).
While it had nothing to do with the sound (which is superb), I found the reflections of the LEDs on the knobs most pleasing, especially when you hit the modwheel.
First off, much gratitude to you for your in-depth knowledge and ability to communicate so clearly. I am curious how one might go about learning whether or not Pittsburgh Modular listened to your cons and implemented some changes before officially releasing this? I owned one of their Microvolts, which had the capacity for much beauty but had some very serious issues. Taiga seems very alluring to me but oscillator 1 not being able to produce a square wave and occasionally stuttering causes me some hesitation.
Thanks and my pleasure. Re the faulty osc 1 square wave/stuttering - I've not seen anyone else complain about that in the comments yet. After this video was published they replaced my synth and it seems to be working fine as far as the square wave. I've not been able to replicate the stuttering yet, but I didn't spend too much time trying, it was a fairly rare occurrence even during the making of this video.
@@loopop Ah, ok, cool. Appreciate the response. That's very helpful to know and also means that I have no excuses not to go further into debt by picking up a Taiga :) Still paying off the minifreak I just picked up, but whatever it takes to keep playing. thanks again.
I just love it. I love the colors, the layout, the design and the sound. It's a home run, way to go Pittsburgh Modular. Hand's-on function per knob with minimal buttons, this is really a great design.
When you pack knobs that close together, I think it would be nice if they took on a more conical shape, with the indicator still on the outside, allowing us to manipulate without fear of touching an adjacent knob.
Wow! This looks amazing! Love Pittsburgh Modular, they're quite underrated IMHO. Great, concise video on such a deep synth, thanks! Is it "skiff friendly"?
Thanks! It depends on your definition of skiff… I didnt measure it, it’s quite hefty - please ask the company and let us know back here in the comments?
Thanks for the comprehensive review, largely informed my choice to purchase a Taiga (and I'm very glad I did!) Such a great sounding synth, my only changes would be 5-pin or usb midi at the back, and I could live without the 'echos' module (...so far. A spring reverb would make a good alternative). Otherwise the oscillators and their shapers sound exceptionally good, as does the filter (always appreciate having a Bandpass) and the LPG makes for very dynamic, vibrant, and useable sounds. My hat goes off to Pittsburgh Modular for innovating while keeping the price sane, the Taiga might not be for everyone but those who love it are going to REALLY love it
This looks like it’s falling right into my way of thinking (today). I’ve been eyeing up the OP-1 Field. Too cool for me/too expensive. Been wanting to go modular but my brain gets frazzled. This has the right amount of contemporary bits and bobs but with old school feel. I like it.
Oh no! Yet another synth I may become addicted to and have to get. I do like the form factor, with the patch jacks along the bottom (keeps the cords from covering the controls, easier to associate with functions). As always, you provide an excellent demo, clearly describing functions, how they work and sound like. It's a bit pricey, but does have great sounds and features.
First mod would be to purchase some sort of direct audio recorder to capture for playback. The TAIGA is mesmerizing in the least. That along with the insanely good control of sound shaping. Another fine review and a t-shirt idea, "I'm jealous of your knobs" image of two synth's, one talking to the other.
yes it sounds a lot like my west pest which is a good thing. the west pest has a weird Decay/sustain envelope (always a decay from the LPG; and the sustain is an offset), this expands on that with an adsr (which would mean if you add attack there's still the pluck from the lpg). certainly a unique concept.
No, there's no way to do that. There's so much internal conditioning and processing of the oscillators before they go into the warp circuit and wave folders.
@hermanpearl1430 thanks for the response. I've learned since my comment. Maybe looking adfing at a mavis. However taiga on its own does satisfy my folding dreams
Just got a Taiga. Struggling with it out of the box. I followed the quick start guide but it still behaving hella weird! Really odd. I'm triggering from an Arturia Minialb 3. Can see the LED's on the ADSR's triggering when I pres a key. But, they're not behaving well at all. And everything else sounds pretty off as well. Very odd. Not sure if it's broken or am just doing something silly! Any tips?! May have to get onto Pittsburgh I think 😕
I did a factory reset....actually quite a few in all... but something was set weird on mine and the reset seemed to help. Dropping it down an octave or two from its default also helped get better sounds out of it. I really thought mine might be defective but the more I've played with it the more I've realized it is me. Where I play, the lighting is not great and the LEDs on it are way too bright and I have found myself putting it into odd modes accidentally too which doesn't help. I've also had better results when knobs are not turned all the way down but are nudged up at least a tiny tiny bit.
@@cp99music your original comment was correct. According to Modular Grid, it looks like there was one 60hp full-voice module prior to the Mother-32, but it seems relatively unknown and I don't see any attempts at running it in a standalone enclosure. So I would say Moog certainly gets credit for introducing or at the very least popularizing the format. I think couchcamper was referring to the vertical U measurements that 19" standardized (eurorack being 3U), rather than the horizontal HP measurements that you were referring to, as 19" racks have 84hp of usable space. I promise I'm not trying to fill up this comment section with corrections-- just wanted to clear up what seemed to be a miscommunication😅
@@laylahassomethingtosay no, I was referring to what I was referring to: 19" synths are nothing new. It is correct, that Eurorack with its vertical 3U was inspired by 19" racks, though. but even that was not a moog idea nor did moog start the trend to put Eurorack into 19" racks. that's both Doepfer.
Anyone else having trouble sequencing this thing with octatrack? Notes keep dropping out - seems like an issue with the midi-cv? Works perfect with digitakt....
I think this looks like a pretty cool instrument! I don't understand why some people in the synth community feel the need to criticize every new piece of gear that isn't made to precisely their taste. If it's not for you, don't waste your time criticizing it-- just focus on the gear that you do like! We're in a wonderful time in which the synth market's diversity has something for everyone😃
I respectfully disagree. I think it is much more useful to be critical of what companies are producing, and what “reviewers” are doing with them. It is so easy to say “ omg I love it, omg I want one” but how is that going to push things forward? Fanboying goes both ways; saying everything is great is the same as saying nothing is.
This looks cool. I am worried about the build quality. The West Pest would not seat the cables in tightly which caused numerous issues leading to it being returned.
There's a button that lets you disconnect any osc from keyboard tracking - I did it to osc 3, then played it with the knob (which isn't easy to get the tuning right...). I also created two signal paths for each melody as I explained in the video. Aside from that there's also a paraphonic mode to play two different notes/melodies, also shown
I don't think people should do what I would, but rather see what fits their needs; but personally the answer is yes if I had to pick one of the three I'd pick this one
@@b1rd317 I actually just kicked my model d (behringer) out of my setup for the Taiga. ...That said, the D might go back in, and the Uno synth come out. I weirdly like the Uno, (I've also kind of got a thing for cheap unloved gear) but in my setup it has been relegated now to just filling in some sound here and there. I guess the "problem" is both my D and Uno have become one trick ponies for what I'm doing. That said...if I could only have one...I'd take the Taiga though I don't think of them as filling the same role. I did grow bored of the D pretty quickly...to the point that I was already figuring out work arounds to phase it out of songs I normally used it as part of. I haven't had the Taiga long but my gut is telling me that for what I do, it won't replace the D for what it's been doing, but it will replace it in a different, better, and more versatile way. ....Not really sure that helps lol.
would be neat if knobs could lock somehow on the top of them like if you pushed in, it latches; push in again and it unlocks. playing live could really benefit from something like this. maybe this could double for creating patches but mostly for error-proofing.
I think that would be a very difficult and expensive thing to pull off in the analog world, plus it would need a pretty complex mechanism, one for each knob. I'm not even certain how you'd do it.
i really like this, seems like the perfect companion to semimodulars like the grandmother or the minibrute 2 those oscs seem awesome - something that makes me immediately interested is having sine options i dont get why this is so uncommon - every synth has fm controls but almost none gives you sinewaves, doesnt make any sense
@@loopop I bet it's more a matter of costs than engineering (which is a perfectly valid reason as well) They have no problem doing it for LFOs... It's a small thing but it really makes me want to play with this one.
Back to a curiosity question, is this compatible with the Moog tiered set-up? That would be so cool if it were. I'd put this at the bottom of the 4 tiered system as this would be the one I'd most want to drive from a keyboard or sequencer like Analogue Solutions' Generator.
@Paul Boos - I’m curious if this is pretty much just the next iteration of their Voltage Research Lab - All “west coast / additive”. Not much like the SV-1 at all. I own the Voltage Research Lab and I have LOVED - but this seems like an updated version with some extra bills and whistles. Andy one want to purchase a MINT Voltage Research Lab (with the wooden encasing and the the tough-pad). I also have a MOOG fest version of the original subharmonicon I’m unsure if I’m going to get rid of.
Price seems reasonable for the quality and explorative aspect. I would probably have bought it if I wasn’t anti-modular (well, my bank account is at least 😅).
yeeees i love it! one last question: how to patch it into "selfdronemode" so i can let it drone without external trigger for ever? like on the ms 20 patching the ext. sig. processor cv out into trig in....or does it drone on its own without patching?
I noticed on some other YT channels' vids of Taiga, too... the envelope knobs don't have much room in the short times (i.e. "very logarithmic" as you say). That's kind of a bad decision, I think. That's giving me second thoughts. You can do plucks, but there should be a wider knob range in the "pluck zone" of their values, from what I've seen. I can hear good plucks from this, obviously. I think it could've been even better, is what I'm saying.
Can you link those examples as this is very important to me. My Microvolt 3900 is a pluck master so on paper this should be similar? Plus dynamics control on the LPG is amazing.
Goddamn, this is the most brilliantly designed synth I think Ive ever seen. And it sounds so good. I didn't think I'd ever want to replace my neutron but I'd trade it in a second for this.
Thanks for mentioning the bright lights. This is actually very important to me and no one else seems to care that much. I sold my launchpad pro 3 because they lights are too bright to use in bed. I hope manufacturers start allowing complete control (off-full on; even color parameters) over all lights on their units. We live in an age when it is now possible to bring gear anywhere. Time to care about lights. We need to be able to program meaning into the lights as well and coordinate different devices this way. At a minimum we need to be able to shut lights off if we want and have good resolution for dimming. I really miss my launchpad pro 3…
Great to see Pittsburgh modular back in innovation! Future purchase!
Sounds great, can't wait to sneak this into the house under the cover of darkness
Has to be under the radar cause my wife gonna drop kick me
Haha wife bad
Thank goodness for headphones
and when you are asked you say: "This? Why it's always been here, I just moved it so now you notice it??"
@@supercompooper omg, I JUST pulled this on my wife with the new gaming PC….
This is the best looking synth I've seen in a long while.
It is very special for sure!
you never saw a roland sh-5...
West Pest is good cost half the price, very nice lookin also somwht similar but patterns, taiga has seq also but Pest is better seq.
@@re8et355 800 / 2 = 250 in your world... okay
@@re8et355 bruh west pest is ugly 🪳
No connexion with our previous discussion, but since I am around:
Let me thank you for the work you do for the community with your channel. Your reviews and demos have been of great help assembling my setup when I decided to give a try at modularity, a few months ago. 👍
That jam at the end was awesome.
My Taiga lives in a 5 module rack with a Subharmonicon, Mother-32 and 2 x DFAM all playing nicely with each other. This video, like so many other Loopop videos was instrumental in my purchase decision. I am looking at switching out the Attack pots for logarithmic equivalents to see if it gives finer control over short attack times. Keep up the good work Ziv (and stay safe).
Fun fact: Bob Moog and Don Buchla actually did collaborate once, on the "Piano Bar" - a MIDI Controller for acoustic pianos.
yes, not quite what I would have imagined!
@@loopop me neither. It would have been pretty amazing if they worked on an actual synth together.
Every time I see buchla, the price always has many more zeroes behind it than I can fathom. So I imagine this piano bar cost about $450,000,000
@@beezzarro that's just silly. All manufacturers base their prices on the Build of Materials (BOM) plus a specific formula to get to their wholesale and retail prices that is fairly standard in the industry. In the case of the Piano Bar, it retailed for $1500.
@@Genshi I mean the number I mentioned was, of course, a joke. But Buchla gear is insanely priced. You cannot convince me that you need to be paying $2k for a rhythm generator when there are 10+ alternatives for a quarter of that.
Awesome outro. The longer I follow your channel, the more I come for the music than the gear🎉
Glad you enjoy it!
Got mine today, thanks for this detailed review/walkthrough. Beautifully designed synth.
I’ve always been a huge fan of low pass gates, that organic pluck just can’t be beaten!
The knobs are so beautiful! Love the colours.
Really nice tones. Definitely very interesting.
Sounds fantastic, as anything from Pittsburgh does. Finally a suitable heir and upgrade from the SV1. You went all Suzanne Ciani on it a few times there, and there definately is a Buchla'esque character peaking through. Very delightful and the LPG seems to sound great. Thanks for a great review Ziv!
Microvolt might not be a upgrade, but had buckets of character and was atleast as good as sv1. Much better than it seemed and still had a quality that even this is not quite there.. it was very lovable once you actually used it, way more dense then it seemed.
Thanks! Yes in my imagination if Bob and Don had designed it, Suzanne would play it!
Absolutely stellar effort by Pittsburgh Modular
That intro sounded incredible.
The outro was so good.
Thanks!
I really like the design, features and layout 👍
Me too, Unfortunately I don't like the sound :(
the final jam was absolutely amazing
You make these instruments sound so mucn more musical than most reviewers. I always checkout sonicstate too, but this channel is thedaddy. Only a few seconds into this video I'm thinking "want". That sweep of the third oscillator at about 0:53 turned it from want to buy.
Great review, as always. Been dragging my feet about stepping into modular/hardware, mainly because of $$. Took a sound design course using Reaktor which gave me a foundation. This Taiga may be just what does it for me. The price seems very reasonable for what you get. Thanks.
Perfect add on for Moog Studio Bundle!
Just got through this one and it helped me out a ton. Thanks again for always covering every detail.
Beautiful in both looks and sound
Great review… this is a fantastic instrument. I always wondered if Pittsburgh Modular would have follow-up act to the excellent Microvolt 3900. I started getting worried they weren’t going to do any more.
This would be awesome if this could fit in the Moog tier system (along with the Subharmonicon, DFAM, & Mother-32).
Great review as always. Sold. Huge fan of their modules.
This is looking like my first semi-modular purchase ever.
Beautiful looking synth!
Would be awesome to see you review the physical Easel Command; loved your vst Easel overview
Makes you wonder.. how is a less capable synth costs three times as much..
@@wurlinnawurl Because it sounds 10X better.
@@os_ros lol.. maybe.. I'm not quite sold on that but fair point.
While it had nothing to do with the sound (which is superb), I found the reflections of the LEDs on the knobs most pleasing, especially when you hit the modwheel.
First off, much gratitude to you for your in-depth knowledge and ability to communicate so clearly. I am curious how one might go about learning whether or not Pittsburgh Modular listened to your cons and implemented some changes before officially releasing this? I owned one of their Microvolts, which had the capacity for much beauty but had some very serious issues. Taiga seems very alluring to me but oscillator 1 not being able to produce a square wave and occasionally stuttering causes me some hesitation.
Thanks and my pleasure. Re the faulty osc 1 square wave/stuttering - I've not seen anyone else complain about that in the comments yet. After this video was published they replaced my synth and it seems to be working fine as far as the square wave. I've not been able to replicate the stuttering yet, but I didn't spend too much time trying, it was a fairly rare occurrence even during the making of this video.
@@loopop Ah, ok, cool. Appreciate the response. That's very helpful to know and also means that I have no excuses not to go further into debt by picking up a Taiga :) Still paying off the minifreak I just picked up, but whatever it takes to keep playing. thanks again.
I just love it. I love the colors, the layout, the design and the sound. It's a home run, way to go Pittsburgh Modular. Hand's-on function per knob with minimal buttons, this is really a great design.
When you pack knobs that close together, I think it would be nice if they took on a more conical shape, with the indicator still on the outside, allowing us to manipulate without fear of touching an adjacent knob.
Home run.
Hole in one.
Top class.
Flying colours
Aces high.
Oh my.
Looks and sounds amazing!
Great synth - happy to test soon! Colors match to my Matriach in a perfect way.
Wow that is a great looking and sounding synth. Pittsburgh do amazing things.
Wow! This looks amazing! Love Pittsburgh Modular, they're quite underrated IMHO. Great, concise video on such a deep synth, thanks!
Is it "skiff friendly"?
Thanks! It depends on your definition of skiff… I didnt measure it, it’s quite hefty - please ask the company and let us know back here in the comments?
@@loopop Ah I've just read on modulargrid that the depth is 40mm, so I guess it can be considered "skiff", quite a broad term indeed.
Thanks for the comprehensive review, largely informed my choice to purchase a Taiga (and I'm very glad I did!) Such a great sounding synth, my only changes would be 5-pin or usb midi at the back, and I could live without the 'echos' module (...so far. A spring reverb would make a good alternative). Otherwise the oscillators and their shapers sound exceptionally good, as does the filter (always appreciate having a Bandpass) and the LPG makes for very dynamic, vibrant, and useable sounds. My hat goes off to Pittsburgh Modular for innovating while keeping the price sane, the Taiga might not be for everyone but those who love it are going to REALLY love it
Self tuning?
Was thinking about buying this, recently picked up a Microvolt 3900 and loved it
This looks like it’s falling right into my way of thinking (today). I’ve been eyeing up the OP-1 Field. Too cool for me/too expensive. Been wanting to go modular but my brain gets frazzled. This has the right amount of contemporary bits and bobs but with old school feel. I like it.
Oh no! Yet another synth I may become addicted to and have to get. I do like the form factor, with the patch jacks along the bottom (keeps the cords from covering the controls, easier to associate with functions). As always, you provide an excellent demo, clearly describing functions, how they work and sound like. It's a bit pricey, but does have great sounds and features.
Might sell my Make Noise O-coast to get this. Feels like a more powerful version.
Seems like a big brother of the West Pest. Very interesting and I think the price point is quite reasonable.
More like Buchla 208c married ARP26000m! I think mine will like a friend :)
Great playing at the outro Loopop!
Thanks!
First mod would be to purchase some sort of direct audio recorder to capture for playback. The TAIGA is mesmerizing in the least. That along with the insanely good control of sound shaping. Another fine review and a t-shirt idea, "I'm jealous of your knobs" image of two synth's, one talking to the other.
yes it sounds a lot like my west pest which is a good thing. the west pest has a weird Decay/sustain envelope (always a decay from the LPG; and the sustain is an offset), this expands on that with an adsr (which would mean if you add attack there's still the pluck from the lpg). certainly a unique concept.
i thought my GAS was cured but this is a fantastic synth, well done pittsburgh modular
Could take a photo of the panel to help to record some sort of preset. My Taiga should arrive today. Looks and sounds great.
Love the sound
Been wondering if this might get along well with my moog subharmonicon. Sounds like it might...
Super cool, so much goodies packed into one box! High on my wish list
this looks just great
Can you wavefold external audio. Just got tiaga. I can't seem to wavefold external audio
No, there's no way to do that. There's so much internal conditioning and processing of the oscillators before they go into the warp circuit and wave folders.
@hermanpearl1430 thanks for the response. I've learned since my comment. Maybe looking adfing at a mavis. However taiga on its own does satisfy my folding dreams
Just got a Taiga. Struggling with it out of the box. I followed the quick start guide but it still behaving hella weird! Really odd. I'm triggering from an Arturia Minialb 3. Can see the LED's on the ADSR's triggering when I pres a key. But, they're not behaving well at all. And everything else sounds pretty off as well. Very odd. Not sure if it's broken or am just doing something silly! Any tips?! May have to get onto Pittsburgh I think 😕
I did a factory reset....actually quite a few in all... but something was set weird on mine and the reset seemed to help.
Dropping it down an octave or two from its default also helped get better sounds out of it.
I really thought mine might be defective but the more I've played with it the more I've realized it is me.
Where I play, the lighting is not great and the LEDs on it are way too bright and I have found myself putting it into odd modes accidentally too which doesn't help.
I've also had better results when knobs are not turned all the way down but are nudged up at least a tiny tiny bit.
Sounds amazing.
GAS LEVELS UNSUSTAINABLE
This sounds like the bomb
I really love how the 60hp Moog form factor is becoming its own “format” that other manufacturers are using.
moog factor? it's 19", a very old industry standard.
@@couchcamperTM oh I had no idea, the first time I saw it was on the Mother 32 hence me thinking it was a Moog thing. The more you know!
@@cp99music your original comment was correct. According to Modular Grid, it looks like there was one 60hp full-voice module prior to the Mother-32, but it seems relatively unknown and I don't see any attempts at running it in a standalone enclosure. So I would say Moog certainly gets credit for introducing or at the very least popularizing the format. I think couchcamper was referring to the vertical U measurements that 19" standardized (eurorack being 3U), rather than the horizontal HP measurements that you were referring to, as 19" racks have 84hp of usable space. I promise I'm not trying to fill up this comment section with corrections-- just wanted to clear up what seemed to be a miscommunication😅
@@cp99music don't worry, some people even think Al Gore invented the internet 😂
@@laylahassomethingtosay no, I was referring to what I was referring to: 19" synths are nothing new. It is correct, that Eurorack with its vertical 3U was inspired by 19" racks, though. but even that was not a moog idea nor did moog start the trend to put Eurorack into 19" racks. that's both Doepfer.
Anyone else having trouble sequencing this thing with octatrack? Notes keep dropping out - seems like an issue with the midi-cv? Works perfect with digitakt....
Sounds lovely!
Great sounding and fair priced. Only thing I miss is 3-note paraphony.
I think this looks like a pretty cool instrument! I don't understand why some people in the synth community feel the need to criticize every new piece of gear that isn't made to precisely their taste. If it's not for you, don't waste your time criticizing it-- just focus on the gear that you do like! We're in a wonderful time in which the synth market's diversity has something for everyone😃
I respectfully disagree. I think it is much more useful to be critical of what companies are producing, and what “reviewers” are doing with them. It is so easy to say “ omg I love it, omg I want one” but how is that going to push things forward? Fanboying goes both ways; saying everything is great is the same as saying nothing is.
Ticking all the boxes 😮
Great review!
Looks nice and promising. It will be great to connect it with Crave, because patch panels are located in similar way
Wow…sounds so good, serious synth
Loved the Ciani-esqued inspired sequence. 😊🥰
That intro tune was awesome. Very Ciani! Would love to play with this in quad. I wonder what Suzanne Ciani would make of this synth
This looks cool.
I am worried about the build quality. The West Pest would not seat the cables in tightly which caused numerous issues leading to it being returned.
I didn't understand very well how you managed to play two melodies on the final jam, could you please explain? thanks man!
There's a button that lets you disconnect any osc from keyboard tracking - I did it to osc 3, then played it with the knob (which isn't easy to get the tuning right...). I also created two signal paths for each melody as I explained in the video. Aside from that there's also a paraphonic mode to play two different notes/melodies, also shown
@@loopop thanks very much!
I wonder if they are going to make a drum machine version kind of like the DFAM since they did those drum module "experiments" 🧐
Sounds fantastic. Price isn't terrible either.
Nice one, congrats to PM for putting out another killer instrument!
The East Beast and West Pest need a panel overlay and knobs in the Taiga style!
Would you get this over the poly d or model d For a "one and only"' synth setup?
I don't think people should do what I would, but rather see what fits their needs; but personally the answer is yes if I had to pick one of the three I'd pick this one
@@loopop of course ! But one's opinion is always good to hear, especially yours
@@b1rd317 I actually just kicked my model d (behringer) out of my setup for the Taiga.
...That said, the D might go back in, and the Uno synth come out. I weirdly like the Uno, (I've also kind of got a thing for cheap unloved gear) but in my setup it has been relegated now to just filling in some sound here and there. I guess the "problem" is both my D and Uno have become one trick ponies for what I'm doing. That said...if I could only have one...I'd take the Taiga though I don't think of them as filling the same role. I did grow bored of the D pretty quickly...to the point that I was already figuring out work arounds to phase it out of songs I normally used it as part of. I haven't had the Taiga long but my gut is telling me that for what I do, it won't replace the D for what it's been doing, but it will replace it in a different, better, and more versatile way. ....Not really sure that helps lol.
Now i want one.
No USB? So how would you do firmware updates in the future?
There’s a usb port on the board - you just need to take it out of the enclosure
would be neat if knobs could lock somehow on the top of them like if you pushed in, it latches; push in again and it unlocks. playing live could really benefit from something like this. maybe this could double for creating patches but mostly for error-proofing.
I think that would be a very difficult and expensive thing to pull off in the analog world, plus it would need a pretty complex mechanism, one for each knob. I'm not even certain how you'd do it.
I doubt I'd see the sun for a few weeks if I had one of these .
ok this is pretty fantastic!
i really like this, seems like the perfect companion to semimodulars like the grandmother or the minibrute 2
those oscs seem awesome - something that makes me immediately interested is having sine options
i dont get why this is so uncommon - every synth has fm controls but almost none gives you sinewaves, doesnt make any sense
If I'm not mistaken, engineering a perfect analog sine wave isn't that easy. Digital is a natural for this of course
@@loopop I bet it's more a matter of costs than engineering (which is a perfectly valid reason as well) They have no problem doing it for LFOs... It's a small thing but it really makes me want to play with this one.
@@loopop Yeah it's perfectly possible to just get a digital synth to generate a sine wave for you and go from there!
@@JorgeLetria many LFOs you see these days in analog synths are digital (if it has a tempo sync option, it’s digital).
Back to a curiosity question, is this compatible with the Moog tiered set-up? That would be so cool if it were. I'd put this at the bottom of the 4 tiered system as this would be the one I'd most want to drive from a keyboard or sequencer like Analogue Solutions' Generator.
@Paul Boos - I’m curious if this is pretty much just the next iteration of their Voltage Research Lab - All “west coast / additive”. Not much like the SV-1 at all. I own the Voltage Research Lab and I have LOVED - but this seems like an updated version with some extra bills and whistles.
Andy one want to purchase a MINT Voltage Research Lab (with the wooden encasing and the the tough-pad). I also have a MOOG fest version of the original subharmonicon I’m unsure if I’m going to get rid of.
Sounds super groovy
Price seems reasonable for the quality and explorative aspect.
I would probably have bought it if I wasn’t anti-modular (well, my bank account is at least 😅).
Five seconds into the video... My 0-Coast is looking at me very nervously....
29:10 - * East Beast and West Pest are Cre8Audio's products, not Pittsburgh's.
Richard and Michael from Pittsburgh designed the EB & WP. PM is in partnership with Cre8
You had me at pastel knobs 🥺
Right on, Ciani riffs for outro!
Ooh man this thing looks juicy
yeeees i love it! one last question: how to patch it into "selfdronemode" so i can let it drone without external trigger for ever? like on the ms 20 patching the ext. sig. processor cv out into trig in....or does it drone on its own without patching?
Just turn up the dynamics knob
@@loopop okeeee. :):):):):):):)^^funny! many thanks!
Impressive! also in size and price
Yeah!!!! I still own a system 10. That's synth has the deepest bass I've ever heard.
This reminds me of the pico
Will it fit into the moog three tier rack with a mother 32 and DFAM ?
It's the same HP but the enclosure doesn't have screw/holes on the side to physically attach it to the rack
@@loopop Thank you 🙏
I am absolutely ordering this synth. I want the Voltage Lab also so if someone is willing to sell one please get in touch with me.
I wanna buy a modular rack just to pair this with my subharmonicon
Peninsula coast synthesis...nice combination and extensive patchbay.
I noticed on some other YT channels' vids of Taiga, too... the envelope knobs don't have much room in the short times (i.e. "very logarithmic" as you say). That's kind of a bad decision, I think. That's giving me second thoughts. You can do plucks, but there should be a wider knob range in the "pluck zone" of their values, from what I've seen. I can hear good plucks from this, obviously. I think it could've been even better, is what I'm saying.
I also wish the BBD went faster than 16ms. I could live with a little BBD and LPG bleed, in some circumstances. I wish the delay could go faster, tho
Can you link those examples as this is very important to me. My Microvolt 3900 is a pluck master so on paper this should be similar? Plus dynamics control on the LPG is amazing.
Is it the same size as the Moog Subharmonicon DFAM and M32?
yes it's 60 hp
@@loopop thank you 🙏🏻
Goddamn, this is the most brilliantly designed synth I think Ive ever seen. And it sounds so good. I didn't think I'd ever want to replace my neutron but I'd trade it in a second for this.
I just ordered a neutron and it hasn’t even arrived yet and I already can’t help thinking the same :D
Thanks for mentioning the bright lights. This is actually very important to me and no one else seems to care that much. I sold my launchpad pro 3 because they lights are too bright to use in bed. I hope manufacturers start allowing complete control (off-full on; even color parameters) over all lights on their units. We live in an age when it is now possible to bring gear anywhere. Time to care about lights. We need to be able to program meaning into the lights as well and coordinate different devices this way. At a minimum we need to be able to shut lights off if we want and have good resolution for dimming. I really miss my launchpad pro 3…