HUGE BLEACH REVEAL | SOUL KING EXPLAINED | BLEACH’S BIGGEST MYSTERY
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- During the Thousand Year Blood War Arc of BLEACH we finally see the Soul King. The Soul King is the biggest mystery within BLEACH. After learning about his history within Can't Fear Your Own World, we realise just how much of a pivotal role that he plays in the history of BLEACH, despite being an absent ruler. So join me as we dive into some shocking revelations and information that will forever change the way that you look at the Soul Society, the 5 great noble families and the leader of the Shinigami Ichibe.
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Fitting that the head of the Shiba clan was against the mutilation of the Soul King and even offered to take his place. Showing us that Ichigo descends from the most benevolent of the 5 Great noble families.
And it makes the fact that Ichigo was the one to free the Soul King from his suffering quite poetic.
Of course, the knowledge that Ichibe was planning to turn Ichigo into the new Soul King, adds a dark edge to the whole thing. It seems that the ones that strive to be protectors, are fated to be used by the ones in control of the system.
@@mcfalanncalixte6744 he never said ichigo "intended to"
The soul king also know all this as he have seen the future
So he pretty much accept the betrayal knowing this was to creat a better world
And the reason why he favored ichigo
As he is a desendant of him (becuase quincies) and the original shiba
This explains why ichigo is so strong and can go trancedand more naturally than aizen plus hollow
Ichigo was pretty much build to be the soul king
@@mcfalanncalixte6744 When did he say that?
Jørgen, It was Yawach who did the saving lol
@@mcfalanncalixte6744 he never said that bro
They better include the Can’t Fear Your Own World novels in the anime. Not only because it helps wrap up the end of the TYBW arc, but also gives a very much needed backstory to the overall Bleach world. It also introduces us to the person who murdered Kaname’s friend, that lead him down his path.
i can see them being adapted into a movie or two.
Looks like your wish has been heard judging by the newest cour 2 trailer
Definitely a 2 seasons i would definitely watch it as soon as possibel
So here's a thought about Aizen's plan. It seems fair to assume that Aizen was aware that a transcendent being was necessary to hold the realms together. You have to ask the question, once Aizen killed the zero division, what was he going to do? Knowing how he feels about it, I doubt he would leave the soul king as he was just to hold reality together while he ruled. Since he was aware of the true nature of the hogyoku, he likely intended to use it's wish granting properties to tie the stability of the realms to his own immortal existence, and then dispose of the soul king after he was no longer needed to stabilize the universe. If he succeeded in using the hogyoku in that way, and became the new lynchpin of reality without being imprisoned and mutilated, then he would be a soul king that could actually rule all of creation. Not just a lifeless figure head. That would also put him in a position where his death would result in the destruction of the balance of the universe, therefore doubling down on his immortality.
I actually think he would be a fairly good ruler. I bet he would create a new zero division that had both Shinigami and Arrancar working together. I could see him assigning a "General" of each race to rule the respective realms. A Vasto Lorde Arrancar to Rule Hueco Mundo, A new perfected Vizard to rule Seireitei (above Yamamoto) a Fulbringr to rule the living world, and I bet he could even find a loyal Quincy out there somewhere to rule the dangai and the weird shadow world (since after Yhwach it prob still exists) they would be like his 4 generals, and they would all report back to him.
Weird little theory, but would def be super cool lol
@@knie1172 Aizen was always a good guy
Itachi back again
It's interesting but I don't think that would have happened.
Aizen is a MASSIVE egotist. The sole reason he wanted to murder the Soul King was because he couldn't stand the idea of existing in a world where some omnipotent being would always be ruling over him. It's more of a pride thing than anything.
Aizen kills anyone he deems unnecessary as well. If he became the Soul King a lot of people would die needlessly if he so chose. I don't think that he would be a decent king, more like a tyrant.
And then there's his unyeilding fucking hatred for Momo. That's a whole separate issue...
@@zerosen1972 Who said he hated momo? ☠️
@@zerosen1972 you actually pointed out the entire basis for my theory. His ego. It's 100% confirmed that he did research and became aware of the Soul King holding everything together. When you look at the type of character he is, he's usually played as the Light Yagami "exactly as planned" type, and always knows everything about everything before the other characters or even the reader become aware. Do you really believe that someone as self absorbed and meticulous as Sosuke Aizen would mount an attack on soul society to create the oken and reach the Soul king without any sort of plan for when he arrived at the soul palace? That might take the win for the most out of character writing I've ever heard (and I used to watch RWBY).
We can be 10,000% sure Aizen had a plan to kill the Soul King while maintaining the existence of the universe. He just isn't the type of character to do things without an insane amount of research, planning, and contingencies, to make sure the victory belongs to him before the battle has even started. The fact that he gave the order to begin the assault on karakura town is undeniable proof. We may never know what that plan was, or if it would have worked, but we can be absolutely sure he had one without any doubt, since he allowed the Espada to begin the battle in karakura town.
As for the quality of his leadership, that is up for debate. I'll leave that up to you to decide. And the different generals I mentioned was just a little fan fiction based on his love of experimentation. But as far as him having a plan to "save" the universe from being ruled by a lifeless puppet, I think we can all agree he had a plan to change the status quo. The idea that he would be saving the universe from the soul king is exactly the kind of propaganda that fits Aizen as a character. He probably believes he's doing the world a favor.
All I see rn is a meme of Aizen in is transcendant form, standing at the gates of the soul palace with Ichigo's lifeless body at his feet, and a thought bubble that says "fuck... I made it all the way here... Now what?" And that might be the funniest stupid meme I've ever come up with.
Not only the world building and the lore in bleach is amazing, the potential of the story is absolutely mind blown as well. The build up for this reveal to Ichigo would be insane and having him and now his son to be a potential candidate to replace the soul king will ultimately made Ichigo the most dangerous antagonist of the story and will solidify the words of the villains came before ; "Do not trust the shinigami"....
The auto-captions translated Hueco Mundo into Guacamundo. I'm now imagining this Mexican-themed place where everyone wears chip-hats filled with guacamole.
I think it would've made an amazing twist if Aizen the entire time was trying to save everyone form the Soul King. Imagine him having a vision of what the Soul King was trying to do, but no one believe him so he had to go down the extreme route that he went to make sure Ichigo could unlock way more power to help him against the Soul King.
Just like how the TYBW anime showed the original Gotei 13, I seriously hope that they do justice and show this aspect of Bleach as well.
It will make it far more impactful if it does, this context is necessary to the viewers for motivation and rich lore.
Member of your Zero Division? Damn you want to be the soul King of your server then , thats one way to go I guess.
I love how manga/anime afterlives and pantheons make no sense at all but we still love watching them.
LOVED THIS!
Can we get a Hikone video
Soul King is the saddest and most tragic character in Bleach hands down
What about roka?
@@CaesarKurosaki nah she got her happy ending, sk got shit
No that goes to his son they made him replace his father
Best thing abt this comment is saying "Hands Down"
@@CaesarKurosaki who's roka
Imagine getting mutilated and sealed by those you're trying to protect
And a never ending campaign of deadly secrecy is used to keep the truth hidden. Imagine how many innocents have been killed for simply knowing too much even by accident, with Kisuke and Yoruichi being among those killers.
Imagine knowing that this would happen and deciding you will allow for it, as Soul King most definitely had All Mighty.
I can finally understand Yhwach motive. To end his father Misery and become a better ruler himself.
Fun fact if you connect all the stories from books 1 to 3, you will know Urahara absolutely refused to create and hand over the hogyoku during the last war to Ichigo because it would turn Ichigo into a soul king himself. He clearly knew the fate that awaited Ichigo because he was one of the people who had learned about the history between the 5 ancestral noble families and the soul king as hinted by Tokinada in the first volume of LN.
Sometimes I wonder if Urahara's exile was only to do with the Visards or him learning about the SK had something to do with it.
@@thetruesimplegrid Urahara was against the idea of having someone else as SK replacement yes , but it didn't seem to have anything to do with his removal from soul society . And from what I've read from bleach TDSTS , WDKALY and CFYOW , i say Urahara punishment was simply because he was framed by Aizen.
@@KainimeChannel thanks for the info, I haven't read the light novels or gone in depth on the manga.
@@thetruesimplegrid You're welcome . This series gets a lot of disrespect for its heavy plot and dialogue, so it's great to be able to reveal some of the information about this series to those who likes it.
Good Guy Urahara strikes again!
But seriously the guy is genuinely a great person. Makes sense why he never returned to the Seireitei after getting his name cleared.
Makes sense why Shinigami go to hell after death, as it’s punishment for _their_ original sin.
its not really punishment though, and not all shinigami go there. also why should all shinigami pay for such a sin when most of them are even most likely unaware of the truth, and even among the ones who do know about it, were not aprt of that decision and/or may not even agree with it, but are forced to accept it because they see no alternative.
Its ironic
It's only the incredibly strong shinigami I thought?
Only the Captain-level Soul Reapers go to hell, the others just become reishi for the Soul Society
What is their original sin ?
It's also darkly interesting how widespread the cover up about the ancestor's great sin with the King is. In CFYOW Mayuri states that some historians who attempted to piece together Soul Society's origins all vanished under very questionable circumstances. Imagine the amount of lives ended to keep the truth buried.
I didn't see that in the novel, must have missed, but Damn I'm kinda wish that yhwach or Aizen succeed in their plan now
the more I learn about the history the more Aizen and Ywach's reasoning resonate to me. I really hate the system and government behind soul society
@@yeonbibi191 Look at it this way, Soul Society's system is so riddled with corruption, division, deadly secrets and inequity that one or all will cause it to implode eventually as Aizen predicted. It's a boiling pot that's carefully diguised in a tranquil facade.
The reason it's so widespread is essentially the shinigami didn't view it as a sin. It's easy to hide the past when it wasn't controversial to begin with. The story faded with the millenia, and the ones who defined it as "Sin" were the Quincies, because it felt like a great betrayal for the Hollows to be given control over a domain when they viewed them as pure evil better off totally annihilated. I find it surprising that of all the Soul King videos I've watched, no one seems to view it from the Soul King's own perspective. The Soul King wasn't betrayed, he's an all powerful god who knew every single move the 5 nobles were making and he let it happen. He could have stopped it at any time but chose not to. That has to show on some level he agreed that there was a need for a change in structure in order for life to gain some kind of meaning. Otherwise your existence was just that. Existence. Especially for those with no power to fight back against the single threat at the time, Hollows. Your life was essentially eternal unless a Hollow consumed you, so anyone with a modicum of power experienced near eternal life while those with little to no power were consumed and lost forever. The point of the three worlds was to create some sort of power balance and allow souls to experience lives, that while short, would experience a wide variety of emotions and achieve some sense of satisfaction before they expired. Even after that they have a second chance at life within the Soul Society. Not saying it's perfect, because the noble clans and those close to them are still disproportionately advantaged compared to say those from Rukongai district. It's not a perfect utopia, but a utopia was never the point of the three worlds anyway. A life in the original unified world was linear. It could last a second, or relative infinity and anything in between. A life in the three worlds is cyclical. So long as a soul isn't destroyed, it can return to the pool and cycle through lives in all three worlds endlessly, creating a new entity and living new experiences every time. That sort of freedom didn't exist in the old world.
Genocide for sure.
It's even more tragic when you find out after tybw, yhwach himself suffers the same fate as his father. Yhwach spent his whole life trying to end his father's suffering, but he ends up in the same state as his father in the end.
He saved his father + it is said that Yhwach may have less consciousness than Soul King had. Yhwach died, so it's just the corpse that holds it and one good thing about it is that - they didn't chop off all his organs (yet). So he most definitely is in less pain at least.
@@mjm3091 so the soul king is still Alive?
@@mjm3091 Jesus. The more I know the more I despise soul society
@@mjm3091 good thing tho. Definitely don’t want Ywach Pernida or Ywach mimihagi running round
@@mjm3091 NGL I dont think Ichigo will let that happen.
yhwach hatred for the soul reapers is actually understandable all this just so he can save his dad from humiliation end his years of endless torture.
The Soul King didn't resist probably because he had a more powerful version of The Almighty ability and saw the distant future and knew exactly how it would turn out and decided it was what he wanted. By betraying him the noble families sowed the seeds for their own eventual destruction and probably created the groundwork for events to play out the way the Soul King wanted.]
That's a nice theory
So he's...basically Jehoviah?
Yeah but still though I feel his personality had to play with the not resisting
Honestly I like the fact that Kubo didn't tell us about the Soul King in the Bleach series. Made us think Yhwach was the unjustifiably evil guy while Ichigo & SS were the good guys. Then after we've had that feelgood ending to the series, he tells us about the original sin. Thus justifying the actions of the Quincy during the TYBW arc. In a way, Yhwach was just trying to free his father from his miserable existence.
His ideal was to merge all there worlds into one. Considering the methods he used and how he basicaly decided this for himself not even thinking of the concequences, ergo the stability of the merged world. I'd say he is a villain.
@@Raximus3000 well you could also say the 5 noble family heads are also villians to split the realm in 3 for their own sake. Everyone is doing what they are doing for themselves. If thats what it takes to be a villian then everyone Is a villian.
@@kookou13
Assuming this guy did not ommit the whole world being destabilised by the Soul King in the begining. The wiki says just that which does align with what the founder of the Shiba clan would have would have reluctantly agree. Add that to the sequel chapter by Kubo in which powerful shinigami do just that and it makes more sense.
Aizen and Yhwach are still some evil niggas lmao don’t get it twisted.
The whole thing gets even more complicated by the information from the breaths from hell arc. Which revealed that every soul that grows to powerfull can't reinarnate or be sublimed anymore and has to be cast into hell. This includes every captain of the gotei 13. Also so many powerfull character dying during the last arc led to the gates of hell literally bursting open.
being a kid is hating aizen because hes “evil” and “scary” and “powerful”
being an adult is growing up and realising.
He had a *damn good point*
What hits me most is that the Soul King had all the powers that Ichigo now gained. The power of the Hollows, Shinigami, Full bringers and Quincy. How powerful would he have been in order to cause Hueco Mundo to become a wasteland.
Which make more sense also as to why Juha cut off Ichigo True Banki in every future because of them powers Ichigo has gained soul king like. That’s why in the Manga in the battle between Ichigo and Juha Juha even stated himself that Ichigo’s true Bankai wasn’t nothing to play with and feared it…
@@bronxmade8710 so cool
@@bronxmade8710 wonder if we will see his true bankai in anime......
Or at least in new hell arc that possibly will come later. I can hope i guess
This Is A Reason Why Ichigo Was Suitable For Reio's Position As Soul King
story of the soul King makes me think that the soul society might be the real villains pretty much enslaving this dude his son is trying to end his suffering
ichibei is one of the most interesting characters in the series imo. The only living character who's been around from the true beginning of the world who has seen everything, and who really exists in a pure morally grey area - his only motivation seems to be to maintain a (powerless/mutilated) soul king in place to keep the worlds separate, and he's incredibly indifferent about everything else. Would love him to get some more screentime/backstory in the upcoming hell arc (and of course they better do his fight with yhwach justice in the anime)
Does he even care about the original purpose of the separation anymore? Protecting the world from harm through hollows
It seems to me that Ywhach wants to free Reio from his imprisonment by killing him. I think it's mercy that ywhach does to ensure for Reio to be from his prison. I think what Ywhach hates about Reio is him accepting the humiliation that the shinigami did to him.
Well soul king is his father he probably wanted to give him peace instead of him being humiliated and suffering
Truly the biggest victim of the saga. Made worse by the fact that his fate at the hands of the ancestors and the reasons for sealing him is a deadly secret, either covered up by twisting lies/propaganda or maintained via murder with Yoruichi herself ready to kill to keep it so. And to think Ichigo was nearly made to endure that nightmare existence.
Nah he would have given them the beat down
Wait… Yoruichi is in on the conspiracy?
@@danielmason4014 Yes. She advocated brainwashing Hisagi for looking into the truth of the Spirit King and based on her paranoid/menacing aura would've killed him if he was someone lesser. Even Kisuke was creeped out and asked if she was feeling ok.
Where did this happen? Im tryint to look it up and cannot find it. Is it in one of the novels?
@@relaxingvideos2047 Yes, at the very end of CFYOW but to be fair to her she changed her tune somewhat by WDKALY, stating that certain things are best kept secret but also agreeing that the nobles and their secrets are the cause of much grief.
I hope they explain how Hell came to be. Also all of this needed to in the war arc. It’s very important information for understanding the world, understanding the feud between the Quincy and the Shinigami and understanding the main Villain.
Hope the anime will fix that and hopefully we get a mention of Hell in the anime or the new arc in the manga.
Well Hell is said to be the chaos left over from the original world capped off. So that would be how. But yeah hopefully the anime adds all this. At LEAST Ywach being put in the crystal, that part leaves the manga entirely incomplete by not having it. The end literally doesn't make sense without it so hopefully that's a sign they'll at least add something like that.
@@mastertucker What's your thoughts since it said proceeds or is left over from the chaos.
@@AJ-kt5zo Just that, the leftovers from the chaos. Left overs from the previous world. The last of the primordial one world chaos, capped off and hidden away. I don't think it means it's like some special pre-chaos or new substance from it, I think being in Hell in Bleach is the same as being in the original world where people were just like inbetween life and death. It's just the last of the old world sealed away.
@@mastertucker I want that shit in the anime and/or in the manga. All of this is vital for world building.
@@ChadKakashi Oh I agree, the whole novel should be animated, but the bigger sin is the stuff RIGHT at the start of the novel where they actually fill in the freaking ending. How is the world still standing at all if the Soul King is dead?
Would be nice to be shown that in novel, Squad 0 actually comes back, comes in and fucks up Ywach, and shoves HIM in the crystal to be the new unwitting Soul King. That's not even vital for world building it's vital for having an actual end to the story!
So yeah HARD agree the novel stuff needs to be animated. I wouldn't say we have to know right away how Hell came to be but like if the Hell arc follows through I can see it. I mean all 5 original clan heads are in Hell too, what better way to explain it than Ichigo meeting his first Shiba ancestor explaining the Original Sin?
I think the Soul King’s story is more relatable to Jesus. Than the story of God. He came into a world of darkness to save people. He was betrayed by those close to him. He didn’t fight it. An his sacrifice is the gateway between the realms
That makes a lot more scenes and ties together the almost unrelated feeling the thousands year bloodwar seemed to have. I do hope we hear more about it in the new anime. I love bleach and anyone who says it doesn't have world building even without the soul kings explanation never looked closely at bleach. The soul society is a fleshed out world and the hollows world is its own place entirely. There is so much for both that it is impossible to understand how people can hold that opinion.
Then there is hell and the human world. Every story of each realm has a way of tying back to each other. Like how souls from the soul society with great SP have to go down to hell, the constant turmoil between hollows and humans, quincies and soul reapers, how the soul king is and the royal family are connected to a lot of the dark history of the world/soul society. Everything/arc just has a way of making sense to the original source material.
Indeed. Regarding the secrecy of the Spirit King I noticed on Reddit that there's a small but vocal group of fans who acknowledge Kisuke, Yoruichi and even Soifon's contributions to the saga but keep the admiration to a minimum on the basis that they were/are killers for the power mad aristocracy and certainly ended lives to keep the truth hidden.
@@manuelacosta9463 is it confirmed they killed people to keep the truth?
bleach was the show that got me back into anime as an adult. idk how people can hate on this show. sure the bount arc was too long or whatever, but the show overall is great. & theres soooooo much more to bleach than whats shown in the anime. its so beautifully written
Soul king in one piece: 😁
Soul king in bleach: 😦
Theory: it is said that when the soul king was living, he had 5 irises in each eye but when he was trapped, it only became 4. The missing 2 became the hogyokus of aizen and urahara.
The Hogyoku was made with his nail
Huh. Didn't Aizens failed? Therefore he took urahara.
Lame theory
@@sirsteve8999 both failed until Aizen fed urahara Hogyoku to his then it became complete
@@sirsteve8999 both of the hogyoku failed until Aizen fed Urahara's hogyoku to his own hogyoku
@@sirsteve8999 fake human spotted
I personally like that all of this lore was not directly relayed in the main line manga plot. What sets bleach apart for me is the feeling that there is a much bigger world that we are just scraping the surface of. Not explaining what so many of the characters mean but showing that others fully understand them is a big way this is conveyed.
Yeah , i also think cfyow was supposed to be in a manga format after tybw or at the end .
They don't need to change anything to fit this . Just adding cfyow in the bleach tybw anime will do great job
Yes this is so important to enjoying Bleach.
While I completely agree with this, it’s also what I’ve enjoyed about the series. I don’t need everything explained or need to know everyone’s backstory.. however, I do feel that some of this needed to be explored within the manga. It’s odd having a final arc called Thousand Year Blood War that revolves around trying to kill the Soul King, and Kubo gave us no explanation at all on the Soul King’s origins, the original Gotei 13, or the first war against the Quincy. It felt like a giant gaping hole in the plot rather than this alluring mystery. I know Kubo was very ill and had to wrap the story up in an untimely manner; I was reading week to week back then. I hope some of this gets expanded upon in the new anime, though I don’t need every detail explained. It would help make the final arc feel more cohesive, unless he plans to continue the manga via the Hell Arc.
@@DFTNSHEXGRM
dude, the last arc dragged out forever. If Kubo actually cared, he could have replaced a lot of the fights with exploring the "lore". Regardless of the "lore", all those powerful quincy came out of nowhere, and their existence were just baffling in the manga. All of the extra stuff outside of the manga are on the same level as "Dumbledore is gay"
In the first arc, ichigo changes SS during the rukia rescue. After he sides with them later on, he becomes vulnerable to some of their machinations, i.e. the potential to be sealed as the new soul king. It makes sense this wouldn’t be divulged in a story that followed him, but he scattered in side stories.
Does this mean the soul king was reborn?...
since he was slain by a zanpakuto?
If so ...was he reborn as kazui? Could this explain what happened to YWCH in the epilogue?
Did the soul king foresee these events and didnt resist because of it?
😯 kazui being a reincarnated soul king? Interesting🤔
Most likely .
@Skdk121 no cause it isnt a zampakutou. plus does the soul king even count a normal soul?
He wasn't slain by a Zanpakuto. He was cut down by Ichigo using the sword Yhwach impaled him with when Ichigo tried to pull the blade out.
@@ASNS117Zero youre right...i still really wonder
I love the fact that the Soul King is just a puppet figure more or less and I love that it's implied that hell existed before the Soul King split the world but not stated outright.
Soul king's story is a god damn tragedy
It wasnt until recently that thanks to your vidoes, i learned the Soul King's iris's were not a white dot surrounded by darkness. It was the ALMIGHTY, i thought it was cool how after all of these years im still learning about details i missed.
Wait, I just noticed that you did not do a can't fear your own world video. It will be great if you can, your way of explaining is very good
Hope the upcoming anime brings the backstory of soul king, on how he created the 3 realms and how was Yhwach born! It would be a amazing moment!
Remember, "He" didn't create anything.
@@itiswhatitis7474 ahh, so the ancestors of zero squad created it I guess
@@rahulkulk745 the ancestors of the five Great noble families in social society created the three realms
@@rahulkulk745 Shihoin (Yourichi's clan), Kuchiki (Byakuya's clan), Shiba (Ichigo's and Kaien's family), Tsunayashiro (Tokinada's clan - he is the antagonist of the CFYOW novels) and one unnamed clan are the five families.
@@mjm3091 ohh thanks for this info
F***.... Now I wished Ywach won.
I wish Kubo would have spent more time with the soul king, original 13 , and lore in general.
He got rushed famly
Honestly...you can't help but feel something for Yhwach and even Aizen knowing what we know. Yes they're evil bastards and far from innocent clearly...but what they did to the Soul King, even for the sake of maintaining reality itself...is arguably evil itself.
It's really sad to know that after the Straw Hat pirates adventures are over, Brooke the soul king will be imprisoned moments after regaining his fleshy body and used to create the Bleach universe.
hahah
Honestly Brook should rethink of a new moniker. 😅
So Squad Zero are the real bad guys
I honestly doubt all of this will be included in the TYBW adaptation. As long as they end up adapting the novels afterwards, then I think it’s alright.
I hope they include some of it. There NEEDS to be some context given to why Ywach is doing all of thism
@@ZeroX7649 maybe. I’m just not sure where and how they can put it in exactly. And if they DO adapt the novels, they might have to change some things since stuff was taken out and put into the arc. I haven’t read the novels myself so I don’t know how it would work for sure.
I’m sure some stuff will actually make it in, though, such as Yhwach’s corpse becoming the new Soul King and other absolutely essential stuff. I just think that some of it can be saved for the novel adaptations.
@@ZeroX7649 not really cause if they adapt the novels that context is given through them.
So the Shinigami were really the villains? 😮
They really need to add the Soul King’s backstory in the anime. I think I would’ve had a stronger emotional connection with Yhwach if his father’s storyline wasn’t so mysterious. I had still assumed he was a misguided son going against the sacrifice of the soul king, and boy was I kinda wrong.
The soul kings life must be depressing
CFYOW LIGHT NOVEL Breakdown and analysis 🙏
So Ywach was a good guy in the end. Ok
Dam knowing all that I side with the Quincy fudge soul society
So not so much Soul King but Soul Prisoner
It really feels like that thing in our own world where in ancient tribes or civilizations where have sacrifices come and they are willing to be that sacrifice and for that day they are threaten like a king..the best food and finest women or men to lay with and everyone bending to your every whim..and at the end of the day your killed..but here the soul king I like to think he willingly made himself the vessel for for power like there will always have to be a soul king and it’s biggest thing is keeping the worlds separated…so becoming that your not only doing a great and honourable thing your also saving the worlds and you will be seen as absolute or a god…and everyone has to protect him because losing him is just way to destructive…so I think he’s just a willing sacrifice because he knew without a soul king in position it’s the end of the realms…
I also like to think the hogyoku is actually condensed power of the soul king himself…which is why it’s alive and has its own mind or presence…so the hogyoku is actually a small part of the soul king
I feel like the 'original sin' is a parallel to the East vs West Dichtomoy of our final spiritual faiths and is best emphasized by Bleach.
In Abrahamic Religions, there is no reincarnation. In fact, that is strictly usually an 'eastern' thing, found usually in Buddhism or Hinduism. But even with this, there is distinct layers of afterlives. There is of course 'Heaven' and 'Hell', but also 'Purgatory' or 'Outer Darkness' (which is usually interpertated as either finality of soul destruction for atheists in most typical christian branches or exile/hell for Mormons.)
It began when Adam and Eve ate the apple, despite being told not too by a higher power and thus lead to our 'exile' from the Garden into our world. The Garden is supposedly in Heaven, but some believe it is actually on this earth, just lost to time.
In Eastern Religions, reincarnation is beget by Karma. There is 'afterlives' but they are temporary. In that sense, Bleach is that to a T. Even in the Soul Society, Shinigami are not immortal. They can be killed by external means or more often than not, they can just die by age, kind of like us. It is almost contradictory until you realize that in Eastern Religion, even Deva or 'Gods' are not immortal by similar rules either. The sin for Eastern Religions is not primordial or 'original' but rather a spiritual defect, we all have unless we achieve enlightenment.
How fitting the Soul King was betrayed by mortals and mutilated as it is the convergence of both themes. No one in bleach, not even the Shinigami are perfectly 'good' and the original sin is mortals betraying god and essentially exiling him from the realities he created.
In that sense, it makes sense the Quincy are German-inspired. Not necessarily 'crusaders', but very, very close.
And with that, you can argue they are not even the 'bad' guys. They are just trying to undo the original sin, for better or worse.
It is poetically carthatic the main character, who is probably closest to 'good' we have in the story and was not bound by this history was the one who killed the Soul King. I personally thought the moment even at the time I was reading bleach and 'tired' of it was my favorite moment of the arc. It was a twist I did not expect and it only get better with age, even though I never read the novels.
It's even more fitting Ichigo was their Plan B in case the whole Ywach thing didn't pan out.
Reason uruhara didn't go further with his plans was because he didn't have a better one. I think the hogykou was his first step. Aizen fucked it up because he realized kiuske was far more clever and intelligent. But he got greedy
Even shiro called him out, it was a sick ass line. "I've known about you since you were in you mother's womb"
I think the Soul King knew what they were going to do to him. His eyes just like his son's allow him o perceive the future and pick the best outcome.
After this I feel like the soul kings story would be an amazing manga with a lot of interesting story and fight ideas with an INSANE main character the soul kings powers have potential to be top 1 in all of anime and manga in terms of power and the betrayal of the nobles could make for an interesting take on the Jesus and Judas biblical story bro a god betrayed by his disciples
Maybe everything was part of the Soul King’s plan.
We all know the Japanese industry wanted Bleach finished abruptly, and they demanded it to end, so that they can continue with other agendas. Perhaps the soul king is a personification of the bleach writer himself, Kubo. Split between 2 worlds: An industry that is relentlessly forcing him to end the story abruptly - signifying the perspective of Aizen, desperately trying to get rid of him and to replace him VS something more personal, like the voices of those closest to him, dissuading him to continue in his passions, and instead, to move on in order to "end his humiliation" - signifying the perspective of Yhwach.
They didn’t, Kubo rushed bleach because of rapidly declining health. No one forced him to end it early. Common misconception
@@Goremejy common misconception
@@Goremejy we all know the oligarchs of japan forced kubo
@@Goremejy stop dick riding and defending the industry
I bet that is what happened to Christ. Came to correct an unjust world, betrayed by those he thought had a similar objective, remembered more for the humiliation he suffered, and finally cut down by modern day thinking when we discovered the true circumstances of his death
The shinigami are basically the greatest evil and the signs were there all along
Now I think yhwach was right
I want the anime to add his backstory not only because it expands the lore, but also because I find interesting how he willingly let himself be mutilated and put into that state. It makes you wonder why he didn't put up a fight.
Damn... So Juha Bach was the good guy all along?
i feel like maybe the Soul King thinks things are better this way because he doesn't have to kill Hollows. like he just annihilated Hollows to protec non-hollows but he's part Hollow too, maybe it straight up felt bad about having to erase Hollows
The stability and better world were certainly at the forefront of his mind when confronted by the ancestors. Then they decided to take over. It's also certain he saw his eventual freedom in death at Ichigo's hands.
Feel bad for him
I feel complete sympathy for the soul king. What a great video..great job man..
This is so heart reaching I’m now hating zero squad captain
I really hope those 80% of your watchers subscribe to the channel
I just wish they explain how he came to be and what teally happen to him. And why is he cut ito pieces.
I don't understand the in universe hatred for the Soul King by the main characters. The Soul King was betrayed and forced to live through hell for the only crime of trying to help. Yet Urahara and Yuhaw hate him. Aizen just hates him because he thinks he can do a better job that's expected of Aizen but Urahara and Yuhaw's hatred makes little sense to me.
Yhwach doesnt hate him he just feels bad for him in the state his father is and wants to kill him to "free" him from his prison.
Where is is expressed that Urahara Kisuke hates the Reio? In CFYOW?
Did yhwach hate him? I thought he just wanted to end his father's humiliation and use his power to merge the three realm and remove the concept of death, I don't think yhwach hates him.
I think yhwach hates him for the fact that he didn't resist and allowed himself to be a linchpin. Soul king would have no trouble beating anyone like ichibei
Yhwach doesn't actually hate him. He just can't stand to see his own father in that state. And that's very understandable. Especially when yhwach suffers the same fate and becomes the new soul king after the tybw ends. They literally do the same thing they did to his father, and rip yhwach apart and turn him into the new lynchpin after his defeat. Yhwach didn't want anyone else to suffer that same fate, but he himself is forced to become that very thing.
On one hand, I get why the 5 families did that. On the other hand, that was kind of uh...not so good plan. The hollows never ceased to exist. In fact, the hollows had their own seperate dimension in which they made their home and some even evolved to a nightmarish level. At first the world had the invincible soul king to protect them. Now they have quincies and shinigamis but some are too weak and just die. They didn't solve the core problem and it ultimately led to some shitty future consequences.
Never cared for Yhwach but I really want to know Aizen's original plan. He appears to hate soul society for all the right reasons unlike Bach.
well, I think is a weird story because if those original noble families were powerful enough to dismember and trap the soul king then they could've help him to take down all the hollows, and build up soul society from there, I think there should be more than "these 5 were evil and did it"
The more l think about it , the more Aizen's and Yhwatch's plan makes sense .
Why 11 minutes to describe the soul king . The soul king is buddha
@Gohansuperbuu influenced by Buddha LORE....
Like a Christian Believing Buddha is a Prophet Thanks to Grace (Sin Thing forgive)
Gentile prophet!!! Carry though Cross theory>>>> savior of the orientals side of SIN.
Wow, this backstory is really intriguing. Definitely would have been great to put into the main story. Perhaps the potential future Howl from the Jaws of Hell Arc could connect to this. After all, it's likely that the traitorous Noble Family ancestors are somewhere in hell, not to mention various captain-rank shinigami that represented dark histories of Soul Society. Not to say that all captains were bad, like I feel bad for good-guy Ukitake, so it'd be great for the future manga to help resolve these things.
Truth. The Captains in hell is representative of the price to pay for power, though to be fair some of them were going to burn anyway for committing horrendous atrocities with virtual impunity.
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It now makes a lot of sense that aizen’s character philosophy was based on Nietzsche.
“God is dead, God remains dead for we have killed him”
Soul king + Jesus Christ = coincidence? I think NOT!
Also I believe because his eyes are that of the all mighty eyes I believe that he knew all of what would happen to himself from being ripped apart by the nobles to his death at the hands of ichigo(maybe even yhwach’s own fate in the end(?)).
How strong is the soul King
About as strong as full potential Ichigo. So like maybe 1/3 stronger than him
This video adds a lot of context. Wow. Makes you wonder if the soul society is worth defending as it is. Thank you for outlining what some of us could not see. I feel sad for the soul kings existence up till that point. I wonder what he thought trapped in that shell.
Ywach and Aizen were doing the right thing. Just saying.
If the soul king was so strong in the past, how did the noble family were able to trap/captured him?!
Apparently he didn't fight back against them when they attacked him. This was mentioned in the video about Yhwach.
He didn't resist, he let them do that.
He let them do it . Because the primordial world was flawed , it was unjust killing hollows just because they are different.
And he may also have almighty ( theory) which lead him take that decision.
Ichibei theorized that the Soul King foresaw the future of all the events of the current era and what his capture would ultimately become. He decided the needs of the many outweighed his needs and knowing his suffering would ultimately end at Ichigo's hands, he accepted it.
@@morving7714 The Spirit King does have Almighty, look at his eyes. They might be even more powerful than Yhwach's.
I would've preferred him as a villain than Yhwach but the kinda villain who'd be 10,000x stronger than Muken Aizen at least with him faking his own death and appearing 15 years after Ichigo became a Soul Reaper.
I'm really wondering if Ichibe may at some point, assuming Bleach continues with the Hell Arc and whatever may come after, will eventually become a problem the heroes may end up having to deal with at some point. If I recall correctly, it's implied/mentioned in the novels that Ichibe planned to use Ichigo as a replacement for the Soul King should the need arise. Which is something even Yhwach himself offhandedly hinted at in his thoughts in the manga while facing Kurosaki and the others (after the former had already defeated "that infernal priest")...
considering what we now know that captain and above lvl shinigami are sent to hell, no way the whole 0 squad isn't there, which means Ichibei still exists......in hell.
@@yoursafeplace8476 The whole of the zero division are still alive and are immortal as long as part of the soul kings palace remains.
@@nathangardner6423 Then how'd they die? kinda defeats the point of being immortal.
@@yoursafeplace8476 they can be brought back to life infitinely as long as you say their name and the palace is in good shape
@@charlescooks9360 huh, that's just odd to me and a pretty bad loophole. Soon as they die just yell their name. Would've been a dope ending if during his fight Ichigo said their names and they showed up as backup against ywach. Then again.....maybe not considering their plan for ichigo.
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The reason that most of this didn't get into the manga was Tito Kube's health failling after years of overwork, which led to the 1000 years bloodwar arc being sligthly rushed. Another fun thing to remind oneself of is that karma did catch up to the five founders, since the zero squad was defeated and their descendants which had captain level strenght but weren't really immortal couldn't return to the wheel of reincarnation because of their stolen power and where literally cast into hell by their own subordinates.
The soul king remides of certain traditions and archetypes in religions and myths. The idea of a god needing to sacrifice themselves to gain a stronger power. Example including Jesus and Odin. Or the idea of preserving and ornating a human God such as certain south American cultures or how the Egyptians believed their Pharoahs were entombed.
I would like to get a full backstory on his specific powers, he was obviously like Yhwach, but on a much more powerful scale. I also wonder if he considered himself a Quincy or just a powerful being. The name Quincy had to have come from him in some way.
Pernida mentioned that he was always a Quincy. So Soul King was a Quincy or the Quincies were created from him being mutilated and separated.
@@mjm3091 I remember his arm mentioned that it was Quincy, but the other arm, was actually helping Ukitake. The way I see it, Ishida was the last real Quincy, that used traditional Quincy powers, all the other's in the 1,000 year blood war reminded me of Fullbringers
@@CasperAJ nah they used the same abilities, but they just went more technology. The angelic forms are not that different from the time Ishida used the gauntlet thingy against Mayuri. Yhwach was using those powers thoudand years ago. But they just evolved.
And I feel like - it's less like Full Bringers and more like any other power ever. Shinigami do it, Quincy do it, Arrancars do it - all of them have their personal powers with multiple releases. Which fits the idea that all those powers come from early humans like Soul King.
It could be he's like Ichigo just missing the hollow part, or maybe he does have hollow but I doubt it
@@CasperAJ all fullbringers use soul kings powers so, they are quincy of Sk is one. He was one for sure since he erased souls and shinigami were made by ichibei and nimaya Sk has nothing to do with them from what we know.
Bruh, now I hate soul reapers ☹️
This needs to animated!!!!
It was monstrous for them to mutilate the man, not just an innocent man. He was a hero saving people from hollows. He didn't even fight back I guess not wanting to hurt anyone. They were after power to a degree, and they were scared of the king. Even though he had protecting them. They should have trusted and worked with him to find another way.
It’s kinda poetic that Yhwach ended he’s father sad existence only to take his place and end up the same way for eternity.
I hope Tite Kubo makes him the next main villain but being 600x stronger than a Namek saga piccolo if he gained 10 years prep and trained at 20 to 300x gravity if he fused with Kami
I'm glad Kubo collaborated with Narita on the novels.
It will be now telling the backstory of reio in cour 2
I felt that after knowing his story and ywachs, its almost like its a deliberate cycle that once every millennia or so the king needs to be replaced but with an almost Ragnarok level event required before so
Now that I have somewhat knowledge on soul king. i think i lean bit to Yhwach motivation. seeing your father put in this humiliation state of existence and you just want to end it quickly
I think the issue itself wasn’t that they went against him, Because the Soul King knew they had a plan and it was better than the current standing. The actual issue in it was that, after he willingly cooperated, they still couldn’t trust him and felt the need to mutilate and imprison him.
About the original sin thing, i think its a mix of both that and the introduction of Buddhism into Japan and the fall of the Emperor/imperial House. Considering how Soul King’s outfit is obviously meant to look like a Japanese emperor, and maybe a bit of Shinto priest mixed in, along with how Ichibe is meant to look like/be a Buddhist Monk. So it would be Buddhist monk attacks and subdues emperor and Shinto symbol. Then the next power structure makes said Shinto symbol into pivotal pillar, while mixing their story with the previous one and removing anything that disagreed.
TLDR on the introduction of Buddhism into Japan is, it was introduced by a foreign emissary and most clans didn’t want to upset their current political and religious structure with a massive new religion, but the Soga clan did. So the Soga clan used military force to violently slaughter the clan in charge of weapons as a show of force, then took power for themselves. Which resulted in the previous order being upended and fused into Buddhism with the way things were before being lost. And then you essentially had the Kisuke and Aizen type debate, where some just accepted thats how it was, because they were still allowed to do their own thing, and the changes didn’t really matter to them if they even knew in the first place. With others trying to use their own force in an attempt to separate things how they originally were, or how they were believed to properly be. And in the end they just kinda coexisted, because trying to separate would only cause more issues, and enough time had passed that both had just kinda merged into each other, aside from the more obvious to pick out and more recent things.
Yes i realize that TLDR is massive but its still easier than researching into a complex socioreligious historical subject just for a youtube comment you’ll likely throwaway lel
So, why did Squad Zero help Ichigo with a new Zanpakuto, that would later screw them? Why not let the Seretei burn?
1. Another way to look at the Soul King, would be through the lens of Jurassic Park. He might only be a fossil. Like how dinosaur DNA was obtained through a mosquito, the Soul King might be just like that.
2. Without reading the manga, you would never even know there was a Soul King. It's amazing there are details of the world of Bleach that not everyone knows, or even has heard of. I find that interesting.