My theory is that Mae is dead already. Sol watched her die. Osha is Force Projecting herself when she's asleep with the help of Indarra. Indarra's death was the first misdirect. She's the Apprentice to an ancient Sith-Imbued mask. This is how the Sith returned, so in essence, Ki Adi Mundi was correct, from a certain point of view. A Dyad can project to each other in the Force, but Force Projection takes two -- a Master and an Apprentice or an Apprentice and an Acolyte. Osha forgave the Jedi for their cover-up, but part of her wants revenge after she learned about it. Indarra left the Order for a sabbatical but returned after she found the mask to perform a ruse. She's kept her identity very well hidden from Osha and the Jedi. The mask is powerful enough to use for her to connect with Osha in her sleep. When Indarra convinces her how they will get revenge, she's in, but only in her subconscious until the part of her in denial really wakes up.
The Acolyte numbers are good considering it's exploring a time before the republic and these characters aren't well known. Not sure what's the big deal is lol
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You think that women and POC are inferior and never ever earn anything, they are just boxes checked. Then you cannot seem to understand why you are called out for making stupid comments that reflect your crass bigotries.
Believe it if you want but most Hollywood writers are predominantly white, male and and far left/liberal leaning in terms of lifestyle and politics. Many of them are in interracial relationships, LGBTQ+ relationships or in relationships with other far left leaning individuals. The point I’m trying to make is that whatever you see is an echo of who is in charge of writing these series.
How do you know they didn't like the pitch she gave and idk, hire her bc she is talented with an impressive resume? Just bc they hire a woman or minority it's not just checking a box. Next time Filoni or Favreau do a show what box is being checked? This take never makes sense. It's just taking the identity of a person and making an assumption. For the rest of time, if they don't hire a white man is this what we have to out up with? If so, don't get mad when ppl respond with descriptions the end in -ist.
@@taylormadealpha There are plenty of talented directors and writers of all stripes that don’t have have a social agenda. Like it or not, the numbers don’t lie. The majority of fans have spoken - give us politically charged garbage instead of good stories, and we won’t watch.
Budget? They spend a HALF A BILLION DOLLARS on two seasons of Andore. And 200mil on Acolyte. Lets be honest. Then couldn't even put $100 mil into Kenobi. They spend money where they want
@@jermainewatsonsr314 I feel it's CRAZY that they cheaped out on Kenobi. The production value was low and it looked it. Andore? Why did they spend so much? Even green lit the second season when nobody watched the first season.
i don’t even know how they could not do a obi wan trilogy. the trash they gave us is frankly disrespectful to both hayden and ewan. they gave this shit show MORE MONEY than the obi wan tv show. HOW? why do they do this to our favourite hero’s ?
Disney has the money. They made a mistake not spending more on Kenobi. Why would they double down on that mistake and spend LESS on everything else? That doesn't make sense. Can't go back and out more money into Kenobi but they sure as hell can make sure everything else is funded. I bet most of the Kenobi money went Into paying all that A list talent. The answer isn't go cheaper. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't. They don't spend enough it looks cheap. For the rest of time, if they spend whatever it takes, ppl will say "But Kenobi". That was a long time ago now. It's over. Maybe if ppl supported Solo instead of sitting it out sulking bc of Last Jedi, we would had Kenobi and Boba Fett Star Wars Story movies, not D+ shows.
After watching it a couple times I did enjoy episode two more than I did at first. I am intrigued on why the Jedi drank the poison so willingly, and it feels like they are making it kind of vague for a reason. I hope it gets better, but I was not sold on Andor until after episode four so we will see.
I was kinda hoping episode 3 would be entirely a flashback episode, and it was! I'm VERY happy with it ... but I can already tell it's not the whole story. Obviously this is the version of events from Osha's perspective, but there are strange things missing. Like, we don't see her running through a forest fire. And looking forward, there are still scenes with Indara in the trailers that we haven't seen yet. I feel like when Osha learns more about what really happened, she's going to be in for some serious ... well yeah I could see her being the ultimate target of the Sith plan, "killing" her dream that she shares with the Jedi and turning her to the Sith side.
And something seemed off the that fire? A coven of watches couldn't contain it? And were they actually dead, or just momentarily overcome with smoke? And if Mae is real, who raised her all these years?
@@carolbriscoe9337 Yeah, it's very implausible for the whole coven to be overwhelmed by the fire if that was the only thing going on. It was definitely not the only thing going on.
You are normal one. You see most are outraged because they were told for months and now following it. The ones who did it are hating director,as far as I saw,for her positions,which at least now not in the shoe. But they hating it. Others just hate it,they can't explain why, so they find some minor things to make it bad
I agree completely. There are so many who just love to hate anything that comes out. There are channels on YT just for hating SW shows/movies with thousands of subscribers.
I'm betting there was an offscreen confrontation with the Jedi, where they smoked all the witches. Why would Sol keep Osha from trying to see her mother's body? Cause of the lightsaber wounds.
As a long time STAR WARS fan who was 8 years old when A New Hope dropped, the only thing I find annoying about STAR WARS is the ridiculous amount of whining & b*tching coming from a segment of “self righteous” fans. They comment only to moan & groan about how STAR WARS has been ruined since George Lucas sold it. The story line this, the character that… Boo f#*king hoo! If you really are the STAR WARS fans that you claim to be, then you’re a bunch of hypocrites who had no problem accepting the Ewoks! Right?! You sucked it up & asked for seconds. Of course you’re entitled to your opinions, but must you complain at every single post. As a fan, I’m enjoying the ride. Once upon a time early fans never thought that more films, animated & live action series were coming. Maybe that’s it. You’re spoiled. Zero gratitude for the fictional world that we get to continue to enjoy (most of us) via a range of interpretations of Lucas’ vision. I’m done, time to watch The Acolyte episode 3.
It’s basically going to be the force fostering life with the twins like they did with Anakin. So basically the idea of a Chosen One is pretty much meaningless at this point.
@@jibril2473 It's an expanding galaxy. Even way back there were sects and different opinions about The Force. The Jedi and Sith can't agree, so it stands to reason that throughout the galaxy, and through time there are different interpretations of it. It's telling a story from a perspective, it doesn't mean it's objective truth. We can't even agree on Earth, on a single planet about matters of faith.
@@gabrieleguasti5503 source? Please state your source. I’ve been reading EU and New Canon Lore for years and I’ve never heard that unless you’re speaking headcanon.
200 million dollar budget, highest budget of any Star Wars show, and performed worse then every Star Wars show. Less viewers watching, horrible reviews, and a narrative that the overwhelming majority of viewers are not interested in continuing to watch.
its huge victory for disney....all need 2 sides of fans eyes watching the show either hate it or love it ....house mouse only cares eye ball counts equals money, any side opinion does not matter
It must be difficult to be a Star Wars content creator these days with so much hate out there.. I have enjoyed modern Star Wars. I feel lucky to get so much Star Wars.
Since I was about 5 years old when the first movie came out and lived through the empty period from ROTJ to the TPM I feel like this is a golden age of Star Wars content. We were so starved for Star Wars content in the late 80s that I preordered the Thrawn Trilogy in hardback. I read most of the major novels of that era. I went to see the Special Editions in the theater and I watch TPM over a dozen times in the theater. It was all we could talk about at work the year it came out. We all thought it was done when ROTS rolled credits so the second Clone Wars animated series was an absolute treasure to me. I'm not a fan of the Sequels but almost everything else I've enjoyed and some of it I absolutely loved. It blows my mind how negative people are being and it sickens me to know that a huge percentage of the people who are being like that are doing so because of their prejudices and hatred towards people IRL. I really really didn't get why everybody was shitting on this so hard until I happened to look up who was running the show and then... sadly all of the hate fell into place for me and I knew why and it just knocked me for a loop. These people who are being haters are toxic AF and acting out of fear and prejudice and it makes me very sad that so much of the fan base has that kind of hate in their heart.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 I really could not have said it any better myself. I too grew up with nothing but the original trilogy.. replaying a television recorded VHS tape of Return of the Jedi hundreds of times.. dreaming of having more Star Wars. Thanks for taking the time to express yourself and in doing so expressing my feelings as well.
I agree 100% that Disney should do an animated series focused on post RotJ events. That way many of the events involving Luke, Leia, Han, etc could be explored without having to result to deepfake insertions into live action.
It's a good decent show with a lot of passion. But get sane treatment as when prequels came out. Give it time and they will have adults who loved it while most of our generation will be sour about it just like the og trilogy cultist
Am I alone in being super sick of "no Skywalkers" being a weird sticking point for reviewers and other content creators? Like yeah, I get it. This is a different era like KOTOR and that's an new thing for Star Wars live action, but jeez, too much of the non-toxic Acolyte content on Tiktok, RUclips, and news posts has been like: "This is a different era and unfamiliar territory." "Yeah, it might be cool." "It's outside the Skywalker saga." "Yeah, I know." "There are no Skywalkers in this show." "Yeah... I gathered that." "No familiar characters! No Skywalkers." "Ummm... Yeah." "We're getting away from all that Skywalker stuff." "OK... I get it." "No Skywalkers here." "Yep, I heard you." "There are absolutely no Skywalkers in this stor-" "OMFG, STFU!!!"
Horrible! 2 insufferable brats! And I liked the 2 first!! There's something interesting about the force witches againt the Jedi - but not this time. Extremely boring.
Oh, snap! I just had a theory!? The characters' eyes that are suddenly turning black?! What if those people had unleashed an evil entity? And that evil entity is from legends brought into canon? What if it's Abeloth?!
I don't think it's helping that the director is out there saying this is the 'gayest' Star Wars ever, and that R2D2 was a lesbian. I am enjoying the show so far. Interested in seeing what EP. 3 will bring.
BoBF came out Dec 29th. With people having plans for end of year, it's not a surprise that *minutes viewed* increased the following week, because there was more episodes to watch. That's not the same as Disney's "views".
Well if you your whole movie or series is just hoping that the reveal is good and everything else is boring, meaningless and fall flat. Fight Club is a good Movie even without the reveal because the whole tension in the film is leading up to that. That's not the case with The Acculight. We're 77 minutes into the series and it's not really exciting because the dialogue is boring when you listen to it. Nowadays, everything is designed to look good visually, while the characters, dialogues and interaction suffer. There is no real threat anymore because we know that the Disney lightsabers aren't deadly unless the plot demands it. So it is ... whatever !
This is a mystery show with twists and turns. I expect interest and viewership to build over time from word of mouth like with Andor. Despite the efforts of the too online review bombers, I know a lot of people who have watched the Acolyte and liked it.
Abeloth,great character, yes. Was blocked by many black holes and appeared in times of Luke. Not here though. Well,you at least made fun comment. Not like some
When Book of Boba Fett came out, I was happy with Episode 1 & 2 (I would have given them A- and B+). I expected a different Boba Fett but, I enjoyed the Actor, and I absolutely Love Ming-Na Wen. Episode 3 was a Joke, and everything after, smelled brown. ( Side note- I feel bad, for Thundercat, for getting involved) I was less excited over Acolyte, but was favorable for episodes 1 and 2 (I would have given them a solid 'B'). Like Boba Fett, this episode (S1E3) this is a real steaming pile.
The only competition The Acolyte had on Disney+ in 2024 was Echo that premiered at #9 and got worse in January. So congratulations Acolyte for beating a 9th ranked opening episode instead of something like House of the Dragon that had just as many promotions, similar fan base, and problems with later episodes like Star Wars’s sequel trilogy and pathetic TV series. Plus House of the Dragon premiered at 9.98 million views the first night in the US alone unlike Acolyte that took almost six days to accomplish half that worldwide. Worldwide, House of the Dragon averaged 32 million views a week; I seriously doubt Acolyte will hold its own much less reach House of Dragon views.
Yeah g'day. It is a toss-up which is worse the current DW or The Acolyte. Pretty much even on that score though. It's a goodnight from you and it's a goodnight from the broken, cantankerous, belligerent, obnoxious, obstinate, obstreperous, cynical Old Fart
Not watching it. I have seen Star Wars from the day it started in 1977. Tired of the Star Wars gender and race swapping movies. Tired of decades of Star Wars rich history being destroyed just to please a DEI agenda. After Star Wars 1 throu 6 it has gone down hill. 👇 Just some honesty people. They started ignoring the cannon characters that fans actually go to the movies to see and use DEI as a way to just do as they please ignoring all of the decades of amazing history George Walton Lucas Jr. created.. It is just sad and a blight on George Walton Lucas Jr. legacy. I will give you a heads up now.. If they use the DEI Agenda and destroy cannon classic characters. The fans of the movies are going to hit back with major backlash.. 👇 👉And before you go screaming racism, sexism, misogynists, bigotry.👈 👇 Fans want a rich history of character they love. Amazing well written story without any agendas or DEI. They are also sick of the directors and Disney using fans as escape goats for bad acting and badly written story. But if Directors, Actors, and writers start calling fans names and accusing them of being toxic men, racism, sexism, anti-female, or bigots with the DEI agenda. Fans will fire back and these big companies forget that what makes a movie money is the fans. You insult them with name calling and accusing them of being something just because they want a decades rich story well written without DEI. They will boycott your movies. This is just common sense .
House of Dragon, new characters from a franchise just like Acolyte is new characters from a franchise, premiered its opening episode to 11 million viewers in the US alone. On a streaming platform just like the Acolyte is which only got 4.8 million, for two episodes so 2.4 each, for the whole world viewing figures. it wasn’t 13%, it was 3% of all Disney subs who watched the first two episodes of the Acolyte. The lowest ever viewers and fan rating - 27% - for a SW show. I really, really wish it were a good Star Wars series Meg, but it just isn’t anywhere near good. It’s OK, that’s all, and even that’s being kind with all the dumb choices and actions of the characters, the daft lore changes, clunky dialogue, stuff that just doesn’t make sense and stuff that’s just really dumb. Why did Torbin say “i’ve been waiting for you May”..? She’d only been there the night before. Why did the Jedi “Master” let the obvious and admitted accomplice to a Jedi murder, and the murderer of the Apothecary owner whose shop he was occupying and whose clothes he was wearing, off with a warning? Why didn’t the Jedi just go in and arrest him and then use the mind-trick thing he used a little while prior to that on the recaptured prisoner? And on and on and on.
Comparing it to Ahsoka is bold. Ahsoka went from a collective annoyance to a much beloved character. You really shouldn't hope to topple a fan favorite character after the first week.
Portraying the Jedi as the evil is a 180 degree turn from the Lucas stories. He has stated he viewed it as a conflict of good and evil. Now we all know life is not that simple but we do enjoy entertainment that is written that way. It helps us stay sane. We try to walk like our hero’s. While Lucas was inspired by Akira Kurosawa among other film makers, when I want complexity, I watch Kursawa’s Rashomon. When I want good vs evil I watch Lucas or Tom Cruise. It was risky to try and keep the fans when you flip the myth. Imagine doing a prequel to Casablanca and having Rick be abnormally attracted to children. Or Victor Laszlo or Isla were were really Nazi spies and antisemitic. Interesting but probably not well received.
I liked episode 3. I didn't love it, and there was at least one scene I found deeply confusing, but I'll take The Acolyte over Obi-Wan Kenobi (the show) any day. Having said that, I think it's a bad sign that The Acolyte isn't even pulling in Ahsoka numbers.
Heard (take with a pinch of salt) Episode 3 is meant to be bad. Also this meant to be around 100 years BBY but in Phantom Menace in the Jedi Temple scene, it's said that the Sith haven't been around for over a thousand years. How can you have the Sith around in a 100 years but didn't exist for a 1000 years?
I personally; and this is just me, I'm put off by how Ms Lesley has made this show about a woke agenda. In addition to Disney making it a "woke" thing as well. From a directors standpoint you are intrinsically charged with doing justice to an iconic IP. Star Wars was such a cultural phenomenon that it is literally apart of every fans life. And honestly I'm happy that star wars "saved my life" for Leslie. But for the love of God don't make it about a lesbian trying to escape the evil Mr Weinstein. Star wars is for everyone. And there is a definite "I'm catering to the LGBTQ community" over regular Joe fans from Disney and the entire production. The actors on screen have been ok. The writing imho has been sub par. Like really really really bad. The series markets itself as a "who done it tale" however we know in the first episode who did it. Off camera the actors are completely focused on telling everyone they are a part of star wars vice letting their work speak for itself. Production quality IMHO is terrible, compare it to mandalorian or andor. It's no where close to them. And Ahsoka is arguably better. The digital backgrounds are completely suss, it makes me wonder if they even use the vault at all. One thing that I can't get over is how lazy the makeup artist was in painting the green Jedi. She literally looks like she went into a spray painting booth at an auto shop. Mirialans normally have a black pattern tattoo. Indicating their status and where they come from. It's just irritating and lazy. Lastly I am very bothered about how the proverbial middle finger was thrown to George Lucas in regard to this being a non Skywalker saga property. A knights of the Old Republic franchise is still very much rooted in George Lucas lore. So these are the things that have put me off to this series. I'm pretty sure there are very many other people who share the same opinion of what they are watching. At the end of the day George Lucas himself said that Star wars was created for children. Why does the show have so many undertones of things that children should not concern themselves with? Closing thought does anybody else find it laughable, the way that Mae calls out other Jedis? How can you take that s*** serious? If I were Carrie Ann Moss, i'd tell Mae to go back to the "little kids table".😂
No matter what theories Star Wars Meg comes up with for this show, I'm not invested. I do not care, the views come from hate watching the show instead of fans actually wanting to see what happens to these characters. I'm just not interested in their stories and I'm disappointed because I like Star Wars, the OG Trilogy, The Darth Maul Phantom Menace fight scenes, Rogue One darth Vader scene, The Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2. The mandalorion season 3 the season finale. The Knights of the Old Republic Cinematic trailers.
I'm not surprised by these stats from the first 2 episodes. I was someone who was hugely looking forward to this show. Finally getting away from the Skywalker saga. But I just feel it lacked a bit oomph! It had nothing to keep me hooked. I feel it was missing something. The second episode, I nearly fell asleep. I feel they've missed a trick on something that could've been mind blowingly awesome. I'll keep watching, and I hope it massively improves. If it doesn't improve, I won't be recommending it to my friends to watch. I'm a Star Wars nut, so I'll watch it regardless. But for people who would watch if it was good, but they're not Star Wars nuts, it has to improve before I can recommend it. I sure hope it does.
The viewers ship is down because nobody is invested in these characters except for Jackie if you’ve read the High Republic series. I am a Star Wars pierced. I will watch anything of Star Wars to expand the lore. I have watched episode one to at least 25 times. It definitely has my interest. I’d like it so far. I am intrigued by what Sol said at the beginning “ close your eyes, your eyes could deceive you “ That’s why I re-watched this episodes to see if I can find something. This really intrigued me. I don’t know why individuals are hating on the series. is it because a email is in charge of it? Is it because the main character is a female? Come on people this is 2024. It was the program. Enjoy it for what it is, Star Wars.
First off what this does not take into account is watch parties as well, maybe there were not as many rewatches over the five days but actual eyeballs the premiere night was most likely higher than views. Streaming is a different ball game than the old days of Neilson ratings by far. Such a difficult metric to monitor. Every time you talk about this show I myself get excited BECAUSE yet again it is NEW. The people so desperate to still need the old characters need to learn to differentiate like I have. I honestly have yet to find another fan who thinks like I do. SW is DONE. It ended when Lucas sold it to Disney and I am perfectly fine with the timeline I own as an invested fan. DSWU is not my SW but one I get to enjoy just for the enjoyment of the theme and the stories, I do not NEED the old characters because to me they are in a different SW world, the REAL one. Everything that Disney has done is just for poops and snickers (to be polite). I do not bother wasting money on books and comics anymore as this SW is not relevant to me but is simply fun and new. One should be able to enjoy it for what it is, its better than nothing at all. Think of it as when a band goes left field with an album, if you are a real fan you still enjoy it for what it is but you do not have to punish them forever for doing it. Lots of rambling indeed. Post ROTJ would be ok but then yet again it's the old characters being moulded in ways the 40YOV will most likely hate regardless. Have a gooder Meg.
It's horrible. The numbers are absolutely trash with no excuses allowed. Fallout had a mainly female cast with 5+ women/women of color including the lead role with 2 of them being in a relationship. Starwars acolyte is poorly written with predictable twist and storytelling. Nothing is a mystery in this so-called mystery as every single situation is explained in 5 to 10 minutes. Has more plot hole then a fishing net. You can't put it on men, or lgbtq+bashing. Fallout hadall that and even with the huge fear it was getting the TLJ treatment people overwhelmingly binge watched it. Fire Kk and LH. Its trash pouring out of a dumpster fire with those 2. No money made on a cash cow in 12+ years and everything they 5uch spoiled like milk in the sun. Hasbro went broke because they couldn't sell a single tlj toy in over a decade. You can represent and still write a good story. Fall out has shown us that and Leslie. Headlined and Kathleen Kennedy show us that they cannot.
Um, " best debut of any SW show in 2024" ? I guess Tales of the Empire was the only other show this year as I remember. Not much of a contest, is it? Spinning webs of deceit, the mouse house roars..er...mews.
Once all the George Lucas' worshippers still stuck in the 80s frustration about Disney's direction are done back-lashing and the show ages a bit, It should be just like Andor and become a masterpiece.
I think its wild how our metrics for success have changed so wildly in the streaming era. 11 million viewers on a broadcast network would be a full-on home run. Granted, a network show would be generating ad revenue, and wouldn't have had a budget like this. So I get that the paradigm for media consumption has changed. Still, I'm just old enough to feel weird seeing 11 million views treated as mediocre. As far as familiar vs new, I want a mix of both. I love that we're exploring the tail end of the High Republic, but in no way to I want them to abandon the Skywalker era entirely. There's still plenty of story to be told, and personally I think animation is the way to go. It costs less, its way easier to find voice doubles than to recast these iconic characters in live action, and frankly, the animated content we've had to date has been the high point of the franchise since the OT. Honestly, despite really looking forward to seasons 2 of Andor and Ahsoka, I'd be fine if all the TV stuff was animated going forward. Save the live action installments for feature films.
Don't worry if the views end up being low overall they will just blame the small emphasis on SMALL but vocal minority of haters for it. Even though we know that the bulk of the viewership for a show like this comes form the casual audience that isn't terminally online and has no idea about the haters of the lovers of the show or any controversy. But hey as long as Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't has to take responsibility cuz they can default to throwing blame to the "ists" and "isms" and "phobias" they are A okay lol
Disney has say they have 150 million accounts. 11 million views is not 13% that is 7.3. Its not that great, Disney is fudging their numbers. I will watch episode 3 but if they continue to make the jedi look like inept keystone cops I will be done,
For the question @StarWarsMeg asked at the end I have one answer ... remember the Clone Wars episode 1, where Joda asked the clones to remove their helmets, and they said "nothing to look here" ... "..deceive the eyes can, in force very different each one are" . And this was one of the problems I had with the Indara scene ... but if we look closely we don't know whether Indara knows that this was either Mea or Osha, she just said "You ....?"
if a shrug emoji turned into a TV show, it would be the acolyte. 5 years and 200+ million later and this is all they have to show for it? embarrassing. writing, acting and production all interchangeable with generic CW content.
I like the Acolyte show and Episode 3 was very interesting in my opinion as it pertains to the perspective of Osha and the witches. I do believe that Mae's perspective has to be explored. There is something that I believe that Torbin and Indara did that was unsavory but in their minds they were "defending" their principles against the "evil" witches and the dark side threat. I believe Sol and Kalnaaka weren't involved directly. I am curious to find out what happened prior to the fire and the closed door. I am also interested to see if the Zabrak "mother" was killed or did she survive and become like Kreia from KOTOR
That is because you have been part of a coordinated effort to review bomb it, starting from when the project was first announced. You clearly hate Star Wars.
Nothing but review bombers (likely similar to yourself). Probably haven't even bothered to watch the show. Your agenda is just to hate anything Disney SW.
200 million dollar budget, highest budget of any Star Wars show, and performed worse then every Star Wars show. Less viewers watching, horrible reviews, and a narrative that the overwhelming majority of viewers are not interested in continuing to watch.
I’m looking forward to more of the fat Jedi. Obviously yoda isn’t around to make sure Jedi actually train so they are ready for battle. Honestly it’s beyond embarrassing
They’ve been interesting to me. Especially the mother from this last episode. Took a second for the acting to get there for me but characters like Sol, Indarra, and even Osha have been keeping the ship sailing
The Acolyte is arguably one of the worst, most poorly written and preformed intellectually embarrassing series of any genre ever made. Episode 3 just tripled down on that big time, the Acolyte is nothing but pure unadulterated and laughable cringe not Star Wars.
Whenever I see series or movies like the acolyte, I mostly watch the reviews. I don’t actually watch the show or movies, because why would I be wasting my time if I’m gonna be cringed out? Much respect to all the reviewers out there for saving us from cringe. Lol 😅
Why does everyone in the Acolyte have a strong British accent ? This for me has ruined the show and broken my suspension of disbelief upon viewing. Horrible !!!
One this I will give you Meg, you are the one Star Wars RUclipsr who does your best to keep a good, optimistic outlook about all of the content. But as a SW fan for over 40 years, I am not as optimistic about this show and this story.
I see no reason to care about viewership number. I'm not a Disney exec. That is their problem. I'm enjoying the show so far. Personally, I don't care to see more of Luke and Leah, or Yoda for that matter. Gimme the new.
Having just watched the third episode I'm starting to get really pissed off at the haters and the doubters. This is a good show and people saying otherwise are doing so before they've every seen it based on outside influences and opinions and not the actual show itself. I'm really sick of this crap. I used to have my problems with Disney and some of their practices and creative choices but at this point I'm ever more inclined to support them because of all the unjust BS being hurled at them. If we want to have an honest discussion about things they've failed at fine let's do that. I don't like The Sequel Trilogy, I think it was a mistake to build the Star Wars attractions around those movies and I don't like that they are slowly connecting the Mandoverse to them either. Sone of the other content is a bit meh. Obi Wan had some great moments but the quality was uneven, same is true for BoBF and to a lesser extent Ahsoka. But a lot of the other content since Disney took over is as good as any Star Wars ever made. And even in the shows I mentioned that I thought were meh there were moments every bit as good as any I've ever seen. Overall if the Sequels hadn't been a rehash, followed by a change in direction out of left field with bad characterization and a desperate and poor quality Hail Mary attempt to fix the mess at the end I'd be content with what I've seen up to this point. This show is only 3 episodes in of an 8 episode arc. Maybe it's going to drop the ball at some point. Maybe it will end up meh. But it certainly hasn't done that so far and I'm sick of all the hate it's getting on pure prejudice and bias that has nothing to do with the actual show.
Such a lame lame show and I was actually excited for it. I found myself super super unimpressed and it becomes more clear that Star Wars is dead, Awkwardly Disney keeps dragging the corps around and showing it off but not all of us are that easily entertained and actually require quality.
The main female character is very good, but I'll probably only watch it once, unlike the mandolorian and asoka which I've enjoyed rewatching a few times
It’s not complicated. People want Luke, Han, Leia, Vader, Palpatine and Obi Wan. They don’t want to see space lesbians or Joe Biden’s press secretary waving a lightsaber around.
“instead of creating new and interesting characters which explore themes, ideas and the past history of the established universe, lets instead reuse the same 6 characters for OT nostalgia bait” - you probably
This is better than ahsoka. I love Ahsoka so bloody much but I am sick of the galactic civil war era and the sequels era. All i wanted was another clone wars, rebles, prequels. And the acolyte delivers that. Just let me have this ive been waiting 9 years 😭😭
Meg, I purposely have stayed away from this show because of all the crap going on long before it aired. It has also kept me away from your channel and I miss your reviews and insight. 😂 I feel like I am asking your forgiveness absence and for you to take me back.
i do not care about viewership, Ahsoka is a beloved character, i love her, but this is a whole new Zillo Beast lol as in new feicin show, movie series etc. etc. give it a bloody chance people. what is wrong with yee all these days. cancel culture is killing some brilliant viewing that needs time to grow. do not forget we had jack black and lizzo in the mandalorian it broke me like the last jedi for some cringe and horrible viewing i never wish to see again. Its some nice build up story telling here for something completely different for those who do not read the books or comics and so on.. Honestly im enjoying it more than boba fett and kenobi.. there i feicin said it Disney wake up now
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 The paid shills love everything gay and black and who lose their jobs and access if they said anything bad about it. What's the fans score????
Wait. 13%?. 4.8 millions views = 3.15% of the 153 million approx worldwide subscribers. And 11 million over 5 days = 7.5% of 153 million. So where does 13% come from? And even if true, that still leaves 87% who didn't watch it. I would hardly call it a success. Spin, spin, spin!
It's not brand new just rehashed fluff from something else resembling a corny soap opera no originality here or there they've fired most of the good originality talent to the point everyone nervous to be themselves & function individually toxic work environment
I must admit I'm watching this, the same way people rubber neck when seeing an accident. I want to see if episode 3 is as bad as people have said. I mean what can be bad having a show made by an activist with an openly rasist as it's star😂😂😂😂😂
This show has been meh so far. Not great, but also not the overly woke agenda pushing disaster that so many are whining and complaining that it is. Some people simply need something to bitch about while sharing that bitching to the world.
A good tv series/movie will not spark a debate about the talent of the directors and writers, nor the hidden agenda they are pushing, nor about woke or diversity. People will talk about the story and the characters in it, debating on how the story will flow in future episodes etc. But when you see people talk about anything other than that, that series is indeed problematic and it is probably not that good to begin with.
Can't wait for this one, not because I liked the first two, but because of how bad people who have already seen say it is. I need to witness it for myself!
There is contention that the Acolyte broke Star Wars canon when the witches created force sensitives. So much knowledge has been lost over the millennia, it would be interesting to take a dive back into antiquity of these witches to explain why their knowledge base contains this lost lore.
am going to watch episode 3 and the rest of the episodes but i cant be hype for this show, i feel the writing, the dialogues and even some scenes are just bland like any other star wars mcu series. just watched arcane season2 trailer and that got me hyped, watched outer range and was so good, been watching dark matter and show is very good too. i dont get it why/how disney cant do series well.
Are you looking forward to episode 3 tonight? 👇
Absolutely. I'm curious about the context of the controversy. 🤣
AM definitely looking for episode 3 tonight
Yes, but I’m scared of the retconning
My theory is that Mae is dead already. Sol watched her die. Osha is Force Projecting herself when she's asleep with the help of Indarra. Indarra's death was the first misdirect. She's the Apprentice to an ancient Sith-Imbued mask. This is how the Sith returned, so in essence, Ki Adi Mundi was correct, from a certain point of view.
A Dyad can project to each other in the Force, but Force Projection takes two -- a Master and an Apprentice or an Apprentice and an Acolyte. Osha forgave the Jedi for their cover-up, but part of her wants revenge after she learned about it.
Indarra left the Order for a sabbatical but returned after she found the mask to perform a ruse. She's kept her identity very well hidden from Osha and the Jedi. The mask is powerful enough to use for her to connect with Osha in her sleep. When Indarra convinces her how they will get revenge, she's in, but only in her subconscious until the part of her in denial really wakes up.
Utidiiiiiii 😮🎉❤. I am definitely looking forward to tonight's show....
The Acolyte numbers are good considering it's exploring a time before the republic and these characters aren't well known. Not sure what's the big deal is lol
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Hire writers and directors for their talent, not just to check a box.
Remember, Kathleen kennedy does not want talented writers or smart people. That's why you got Leslie headland. A hack
You think that women and POC are inferior and never ever earn anything, they are just boxes checked. Then you cannot seem to understand why you are called out for making stupid comments that reflect your crass bigotries.
Believe it if you want but most Hollywood writers are predominantly white, male and and far left/liberal leaning in terms of lifestyle and politics. Many of them are in interracial relationships, LGBTQ+ relationships or in relationships with other far left leaning individuals. The point I’m trying to make is that whatever you see is an echo of who is in charge of writing these series.
How do you know they didn't like the pitch she gave and idk, hire her bc she is talented with an impressive resume? Just bc they hire a woman or minority it's not just checking a box. Next time Filoni or Favreau do a show what box is being checked? This take never makes sense. It's just taking the identity of a person and making an assumption. For the rest of time, if they don't hire a white man is this what we have to out up with? If so, don't get mad when ppl respond with descriptions the end in -ist.
@@taylormadealpha There are plenty of talented directors and writers of all stripes that don’t have have a social agenda. Like it or not, the numbers don’t lie. The majority of fans have spoken - give us politically charged garbage instead of good stories, and we won’t watch.
Budget? They spend a HALF A BILLION DOLLARS on two seasons of Andore. And 200mil on Acolyte. Lets be honest. Then couldn't even put $100 mil into Kenobi. They spend money where they want
Cry
Kenobi would sell on it's own. Andor and Acolyte are not full of legacy characters...I see the reasoning I think.
@@jermainewatsonsr314 I feel it's CRAZY that they cheaped out on Kenobi. The production value was low and it looked it.
Andore? Why did they spend so much? Even green lit the second season when nobody watched the first season.
i don’t even know how they could not do a obi wan trilogy. the trash they gave us is frankly disrespectful to both hayden and ewan. they gave this shit show MORE MONEY than the obi wan tv show. HOW? why do they do this to our favourite hero’s ?
Disney has the money. They made a mistake not spending more on Kenobi. Why would they double down on that mistake and spend LESS on everything else? That doesn't make sense. Can't go back and out more money into Kenobi but they sure as hell can make sure everything else is funded. I bet most of the Kenobi money went Into paying all that A list talent. The answer isn't go cheaper. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't. They don't spend enough it looks cheap. For the rest of time, if they spend whatever it takes, ppl will say "But Kenobi". That was a long time ago now. It's over. Maybe if ppl supported Solo instead of sitting it out sulking bc of Last Jedi, we would had Kenobi and Boba Fett Star Wars Story movies, not D+ shows.
After watching it a couple times I did enjoy episode two more than I did at first. I am intrigued on why the Jedi drank the poison so willingly, and it feels like they are making it kind of vague for a reason.
I hope it gets better, but I was not sold on Andor until after episode four so we will see.
I was kinda hoping episode 3 would be entirely a flashback episode, and it was! I'm VERY happy with it ... but I can already tell it's not the whole story. Obviously this is the version of events from Osha's perspective, but there are strange things missing. Like, we don't see her running through a forest fire. And looking forward, there are still scenes with Indara in the trailers that we haven't seen yet.
I feel like when Osha learns more about what really happened, she's going to be in for some serious ... well yeah I could see her being the ultimate target of the Sith plan, "killing" her dream that she shares with the Jedi and turning her to the Sith side.
And something seemed off the that fire? A coven of watches couldn't contain it? And were they actually dead, or just momentarily overcome with smoke? And if Mae is real, who raised her all these years?
@@carolbriscoe9337 Yeah, it's very implausible for the whole coven to be overwhelmed by the fire if that was the only thing going on. It was definitely not the only thing going on.
Can all the criticisms at least wait until the story concludes? As Far as I'm concerned, I'm holding my judgements until this series is over.
You are normal one. You see most are outraged because they were told for months and now following it. The ones who did it are hating director,as far as I saw,for her positions,which at least now not in the shoe. But they hating it. Others just hate it,they can't explain why, so they find some minor things to make it bad
I agree completely. There are so many who just love to hate anything that comes out. There are channels on YT just for hating SW shows/movies with thousands of subscribers.
Same, I want the story to be fully done before I make any criticisms on it.
That’s the mature thing to do.
LOL. NAIVETY AT ITS FINEST.
I'm betting there was an offscreen confrontation with the Jedi, where they smoked all the witches. Why would Sol keep Osha from trying to see her mother's body? Cause of the lightsaber wounds.
Absolutely agree-the fire did not kill those witches.
As a long time STAR WARS fan who was 8 years old when A New Hope dropped, the only thing I find annoying about STAR WARS is the ridiculous amount of whining & b*tching coming from a segment of “self righteous” fans. They comment only to moan & groan about how STAR WARS has been ruined since George Lucas sold it. The story line this, the character that… Boo f#*king hoo! If you really are the STAR WARS fans that you claim to be, then you’re a bunch of hypocrites who had no problem accepting the Ewoks! Right?! You sucked it up & asked for seconds. Of course you’re entitled to your opinions, but must you complain at every single post. As a fan, I’m enjoying the ride. Once upon a time early fans never thought that more films, animated & live action series were coming. Maybe that’s it. You’re spoiled. Zero gratitude for the fictional world that we get to continue to enjoy (most of us) via a range of interpretations of Lucas’ vision. I’m done, time to watch The Acolyte episode 3.
Disagree that Indara recognized her attacker as Osha-she saw the mark on her forehead and knew it was Mae.
I am dying for episode 3! Its a beautiful train wreck that can't be missed!
It’s basically going to be the force fostering life with the twins like they did with Anakin. So basically the idea of a Chosen One is pretty much meaningless at this point.
@@jibril2473 It's an expanding galaxy. Even way back there were sects and different opinions about The Force. The Jedi and Sith can't agree, so it stands to reason that throughout the galaxy, and through time there are different interpretations of it. It's telling a story from a perspective, it doesn't mean it's objective truth. We can't even agree on Earth, on a single planet about matters of faith.
@@jibril2473 be a Vergence doesn't mean be the Chosen One otherwise all the Jedi have trust Qui-Gonn
@@gabrieleguasti5503 source? Please state your source. I’ve been reading EU and New Canon Lore for years and I’ve never heard that unless you’re speaking headcanon.
@@jibril2473 yoda himself think that the prophecy could be misanderstood.
( The Phantom Menace)
I dont think i can continue watching after episode 3. The writing is AWFUL. Shame on kathleen kennedy and hedland. Smh. $180M for this? Mediocrity.
200 million dollar budget, highest budget of any Star Wars show, and performed worse then every Star Wars show. Less viewers watching, horrible reviews, and a narrative that the overwhelming majority of viewers are not interested in continuing to watch.
I think Andara knew it was Mae, because of Mae showing her tattoo.
its huge victory for disney....all need 2 sides of fans eyes watching the show either hate it or love it ....house mouse only cares eye ball counts equals money, any side opinion does not matter
This show is badly written, with horrible, predictable writing, and is filled with talentless actors.
SHILL VIDEO! I just wonder how much & what Disney paid her to say this.
It must be difficult to be a Star Wars content creator these days with so much hate out there.. I have enjoyed modern Star Wars. I feel lucky to get so much Star Wars.
Since I was about 5 years old when the first movie came out and lived through the empty period from ROTJ to the TPM I feel like this is a golden age of Star Wars content. We were so starved for Star Wars content in the late 80s that I preordered the Thrawn Trilogy in hardback. I read most of the major novels of that era. I went to see the Special Editions in the theater and I watch TPM over a dozen times in the theater. It was all we could talk about at work the year it came out. We all thought it was done when ROTS rolled credits so the second Clone Wars animated series was an absolute treasure to me.
I'm not a fan of the Sequels but almost everything else I've enjoyed and some of it I absolutely loved. It blows my mind how negative people are being and it sickens me to know that a huge percentage of the people who are being like that are doing so because of their prejudices and hatred towards people IRL. I really really didn't get why everybody was shitting on this so hard until I happened to look up who was running the show and then... sadly all of the hate fell into place for me and I knew why and it just knocked me for a loop. These people who are being haters are toxic AF and acting out of fear and prejudice and it makes me very sad that so much of the fan base has that kind of hate in their heart.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 I really could not have said it any better myself. I too grew up with nothing but the original trilogy.. replaying a television recorded VHS tape of Return of the Jedi hundreds of times.. dreaming of having more Star Wars. Thanks for taking the time to express yourself and in doing so expressing my feelings as well.
I agree 100% that Disney should do an animated series focused on post RotJ events. That way many of the events involving Luke, Leia, Han, etc could be explored without having to result to deepfake insertions into live action.
Truly unfair to measure it against a well loved character with long history played by a superstar
I like it kinda good to see some SW universe without any Skywalkers etc.. TBH
Same
It's a good decent show with a lot of passion. But get sane treatment as when prequels came out. Give it time and they will have adults who loved it while most of our generation will be sour about it just like the og trilogy cultist
Am I alone in being super sick of "no Skywalkers" being a weird sticking point for reviewers and other content creators? Like yeah, I get it. This is a different era like KOTOR and that's an new thing for Star Wars live action, but jeez, too much of the non-toxic Acolyte content on Tiktok, RUclips, and news posts has been like:
"This is a different era and unfamiliar territory."
"Yeah, it might be cool."
"It's outside the Skywalker saga."
"Yeah, I know."
"There are no Skywalkers in this show."
"Yeah... I gathered that."
"No familiar characters! No Skywalkers."
"Ummm... Yeah."
"We're getting away from all that Skywalker stuff."
"OK... I get it."
"No Skywalkers here."
"Yep, I heard you."
"There are absolutely no Skywalkers in this stor-"
"OMFG, STFU!!!"
Horrible! 2 insufferable brats! And I liked the 2 first!! There's something interesting about the force witches againt the Jedi - but not this time. Extremely boring.
100%
Also the LOL @ the 'Cop Rock' scene, with the Witches going into Song and Dance! WTF!
Oh, snap! I just had a theory!?
The characters' eyes that are suddenly turning black?!
What if those people had unleashed an evil entity? And that evil entity is from legends brought into canon?
What if it's Abeloth?!
Loving the show and can’t wait for the next episode, the alt right ain’t gonna stop me enjoying it
I don't think it's helping that the director is out there saying this is the 'gayest' Star Wars ever, and that R2D2 was a lesbian. I am enjoying the show so far. Interested in seeing what EP. 3 will bring.
I agree that’s not helping with the criticism at all. I’m interested to see what the rest of the series shows as well.
Idk care about acolyte. But don’t let Leslye wokeland near kotor
BoBF came out Dec 29th. With people having plans for end of year, it's not a surprise that *minutes viewed* increased the following week, because there was more episodes to watch. That's not the same as Disney's "views".
Episode 3 was amazing
I agree.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 Presume you are being sarcastic?
@@andrewprice8940 nope!
You can do it!
Well if you your whole movie or series is just hoping that the reveal is good and everything else is boring, meaningless and fall flat.
Fight Club is a good Movie even without the reveal because the whole tension in the film is leading up to that. That's not the case with The Acculight.
We're 77 minutes into the series and it's not really exciting because the dialogue is boring when you listen to it.
Nowadays, everything is designed to look good visually, while the characters, dialogues and interaction suffer.
There is no real threat anymore because we know that the Disney lightsabers aren't deadly unless the plot demands it.
So it is ... whatever !
This is a mystery show with twists and turns. I expect interest and viewership to build over time from word of mouth like with Andor.
Despite the efforts of the too online review bombers, I know a lot of people who have watched the Acolyte and liked it.
Who mate lol
Except Andor had quality writing and acting. Also, it never got the viewership Disney wanted, anyway
What about news outlets who said it wasn't good either, are they just trolls?
HAHAHAHA!
Agreed
I'm waiting for the Mandalorian season 4 ❤
Not happening they scraped it to make a movie
Mandalorian Season 4: Gay Butt Stuff
Rather watch paint dry😂😅
DOA. Nuff said.
11.1million for a show with no known characters is great.
Also remember Ashoka released 3 episodes.
No sir it was 2
Globally Disney has something like 150 million subscribers. Only 7.5% of those people are tuning in to this dumpster fire.
@@CharlesThomas-vs8ir Are you sure?
@@hayleydanhirschfeld4862 Highest audience of the year for a Disney plus show so far this year.
@daranphilipson1025 yes it was a 2 episode premiere 🤷🏿♂️
He’s doesn’t get possessed by the witches he gets possessed by abeloth
Abeloth,great character, yes. Was blocked by many black holes and appeared in times of Luke. Not here though. Well,you at least made fun comment. Not like some
She doesn’t exist bro. Never gonna be canon.
Kathleen needs to go.
When Book of Boba Fett came out, I was happy with Episode 1 & 2 (I would have given them A- and B+). I expected a different Boba Fett but, I enjoyed the Actor, and I absolutely Love Ming-Na Wen. Episode 3 was a Joke, and everything after, smelled brown. ( Side note- I feel bad, for Thundercat, for getting involved)
I was less excited over Acolyte, but was favorable for episodes 1 and 2 (I would have given them a solid 'B'). Like Boba Fett, this episode (S1E3) this is a real steaming pile.
I tried watching the first 2 episodes with an open mind. I won't bother watching the rest of the series.
Well... BYE!
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 Yes, bye
The only competition The Acolyte had on Disney+ in 2024 was Echo that premiered at #9 and got worse in January. So congratulations Acolyte for beating a 9th ranked opening episode instead of something like House of the Dragon that had just as many promotions, similar fan base, and problems with later episodes like Star Wars’s sequel trilogy and pathetic TV series.
Plus House of the Dragon premiered at 9.98 million views the first night in the US alone unlike Acolyte that took almost six days to accomplish half that worldwide. Worldwide, House of the Dragon averaged 32 million views a week; I seriously doubt Acolyte will hold its own much less reach House of Dragon views.
Yeah g'day.
It is a toss-up which is worse the current DW or The Acolyte.
Pretty much even on that score though.
It's a goodnight from you and it's a goodnight from the broken, cantankerous, belligerent, obnoxious, obstinate, obstreperous, cynical Old Fart
Not watching it.
I have seen Star Wars from the day it started in 1977. Tired of the Star Wars gender and race swapping movies. Tired of decades of Star Wars rich history being destroyed just to please a DEI agenda. After Star Wars 1 throu 6 it has gone down hill.
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Just some honesty people.
They started ignoring the cannon characters that fans actually go to the movies to see and use DEI as a way to just do as they please ignoring all of the decades of amazing history George Walton Lucas Jr. created.. It is just sad and a blight on George Walton Lucas Jr. legacy. I will give you a heads up now.. If they use the DEI Agenda and destroy cannon classic characters. The fans of the movies are going to hit back with major backlash..
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👉And before you go screaming racism, sexism, misogynists, bigotry.👈
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Fans want a rich history of character they love. Amazing well written story without any agendas or DEI. They are also sick of the directors and Disney using fans as escape goats for bad acting and badly written story. But if Directors, Actors, and writers start calling fans names and accusing them of being toxic men, racism, sexism, anti-female, or bigots with the DEI agenda. Fans will fire back and these big companies forget that what makes a movie money is the fans. You insult them with name calling and accusing them of being something just because they want a decades rich story well written without DEI. They will boycott your movies. This is just common sense .
House of Dragon, new characters from a franchise just like Acolyte is new characters from a franchise, premiered its opening episode to 11 million viewers in the US alone. On a streaming platform just like the Acolyte is which only got 4.8 million, for two episodes so 2.4 each, for the whole world viewing figures.
it wasn’t 13%, it was 3% of all Disney subs who watched the first two episodes of the Acolyte. The lowest ever viewers and fan rating - 27% - for a SW show.
I really, really wish it were a good Star Wars series Meg, but it just isn’t anywhere near good. It’s OK, that’s all, and even that’s being kind with all the dumb choices and actions of the characters, the daft lore changes, clunky dialogue, stuff that just doesn’t make sense and stuff that’s just really dumb. Why did Torbin say “i’ve been waiting for you May”..? She’d only been there the night before. Why did the Jedi “Master” let the obvious and admitted accomplice to a Jedi murder, and the murderer of the Apothecary owner whose shop he was occupying and whose clothes he was wearing, off with a warning? Why didn’t the Jedi just go in and arrest him and then use the mind-trick thing he used a little while prior to that on the recaptured prisoner? And on and on and on.
Comparing it to Ahsoka is bold. Ahsoka went from a collective annoyance to a much beloved character. You really shouldn't hope to topple a fan favorite character after the first week.
Portraying the Jedi as the evil is a 180 degree turn from the Lucas stories. He has stated he viewed it as a conflict of good and evil.
Now we all know life is not that simple but we do enjoy entertainment that is written that way. It helps us stay sane. We try to walk like our hero’s.
While Lucas was inspired by Akira Kurosawa among other film makers, when I want complexity, I watch Kursawa’s Rashomon. When I want good vs evil I watch Lucas or Tom Cruise.
It was risky to try and keep the fans when you flip the myth. Imagine doing a prequel to Casablanca and having Rick be abnormally attracted to children. Or Victor Laszlo or Isla were were really Nazi spies and antisemitic. Interesting but probably not well received.
I liked episode 3. I didn't love it, and there was at least one scene I found deeply confusing, but I'll take The Acolyte over Obi-Wan Kenobi (the show) any day.
Having said that, I think it's a bad sign that The Acolyte isn't even pulling in Ahsoka numbers.
Heard (take with a pinch of salt) Episode 3 is meant to be bad. Also this meant to be around 100 years BBY but in Phantom Menace in the Jedi Temple scene, it's said that the Sith haven't been around for over a thousand years.
How can you have the Sith around in a 100 years but didn't exist for a 1000 years?
I personally; and this is just me, I'm put off by how Ms Lesley has made this show about a woke agenda. In addition to Disney making it a "woke" thing as well.
From a directors standpoint you are intrinsically charged with doing justice to an iconic IP. Star Wars was such a cultural phenomenon that it is literally apart of every fans life. And honestly I'm happy that star wars "saved my life" for Leslie. But for the love of God don't make it about a lesbian trying to escape the evil Mr Weinstein. Star wars is for everyone. And there is a definite "I'm catering to the LGBTQ community" over regular Joe fans from Disney and the entire production.
The actors on screen have been ok. The writing imho has been sub par. Like really really really bad. The series markets itself as a "who done it tale" however we know in the first episode who did it. Off camera the actors are completely focused on telling everyone they are a part of star wars vice letting their work speak for itself.
Production quality IMHO is terrible, compare it to mandalorian or andor. It's no where close to them. And Ahsoka is arguably better. The digital backgrounds are completely suss, it makes me wonder if they even use the vault at all. One thing that I can't get over is how lazy the makeup artist was in painting the green Jedi. She literally looks like she went into a spray painting booth at an auto shop. Mirialans normally have a black pattern tattoo. Indicating their status and where they come from. It's just irritating and lazy.
Lastly I am very bothered about how the proverbial middle finger was thrown to George Lucas in regard to this being a non Skywalker saga property. A knights of the Old Republic franchise is still very much rooted in George Lucas lore.
So these are the things that have put me off to this series. I'm pretty sure there are very many other people who share the same opinion of what they are watching.
At the end of the day George Lucas himself said that Star wars was created for children. Why does the show have so many undertones of things that children should not concern themselves with?
Closing thought does anybody else find it laughable, the way that Mae calls out other Jedis? How can you take that s*** serious? If I were Carrie Ann Moss, i'd tell Mae to go back to the "little kids table".😂
No matter what theories Star Wars Meg comes up with for this show, I'm not invested. I do not care, the views come from hate watching the show instead of fans actually wanting to see what happens to these characters. I'm just not interested in their stories and I'm disappointed because I like Star Wars, the OG Trilogy, The Darth Maul Phantom Menace fight scenes, Rogue One darth Vader scene, The Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2. The mandalorion season 3 the season finale. The Knights of the Old Republic Cinematic trailers.
It’s called bad writing.
I'm not surprised by these stats from the first 2 episodes. I was someone who was hugely looking forward to this show. Finally getting away from the Skywalker saga. But I just feel it lacked a bit oomph! It had nothing to keep me hooked. I feel it was missing something. The second episode, I nearly fell asleep. I feel they've missed a trick on something that could've been mind blowingly awesome. I'll keep watching, and I hope it massively improves. If it doesn't improve, I won't be recommending it to my friends to watch. I'm a Star Wars nut, so I'll watch it regardless. But for people who would watch if it was good, but they're not Star Wars nuts, it has to improve before I can recommend it. I sure hope it does.
The viewers ship is down because nobody is invested in these characters except for Jackie if you’ve read the High Republic series. I am a Star Wars pierced. I will watch anything of Star Wars to expand the lore. I have watched episode one to at least 25 times. It definitely has my interest. I’d like it so far. I am intrigued by what Sol said at the beginning “ close your eyes, your eyes could deceive you “ That’s why I re-watched this episodes to see if I can find something. This really intrigued me. I don’t know why individuals are hating on the series. is it because a email is in charge of it? Is it because the main character is a female? Come on people this is 2024. It was the program. Enjoy it for what it is, Star Wars.
First off what this does not take into account is watch parties as well, maybe there were not as many rewatches over the five days but actual eyeballs the premiere night was most likely higher than views. Streaming is a different ball game than the old days of Neilson ratings by far. Such a difficult metric to monitor. Every time you talk about this show I myself get excited BECAUSE yet again it is NEW. The people so desperate to still need the old characters need to learn to differentiate like I have. I honestly have yet to find another fan who thinks like I do. SW is DONE. It ended when Lucas sold it to Disney and I am perfectly fine with the timeline I own as an invested fan. DSWU is not my SW but one I get to enjoy just for the enjoyment of the theme and the stories, I do not NEED the old characters because to me they are in a different SW world, the REAL one. Everything that Disney has done is just for poops and snickers (to be polite). I do not bother wasting money on books and comics anymore as this SW is not relevant to me but is simply fun and new. One should be able to enjoy it for what it is, its better than nothing at all. Think of it as when a band goes left field with an album, if you are a real fan you still enjoy it for what it is but you do not have to punish them forever for doing it. Lots of rambling indeed. Post ROTJ would be ok but then yet again it's the old characters being moulded in ways the 40YOV will most likely hate regardless. Have a gooder Meg.
It's horrible. The numbers
are absolutely trash with no excuses allowed. Fallout had a mainly female cast with 5+ women/women of color including the lead role with 2 of them being in a relationship. Starwars acolyte is poorly written with predictable twist and storytelling. Nothing is a mystery in this so-called mystery as every single situation is explained in 5 to 10 minutes. Has more plot hole then a fishing net. You can't put it on men, or lgbtq+bashing. Fallout hadall that and even with the huge fear it was getting the TLJ treatment people overwhelmingly binge watched it. Fire Kk and LH. Its trash pouring out of a dumpster fire with those 2. No money made on a cash cow in 12+ years and everything they 5uch spoiled like milk in the sun. Hasbro went broke because they couldn't sell a single tlj toy in over a decade. You can represent and still write a good story. Fall out has shown us that and Leslie. Headlined and Kathleen Kennedy show us that they cannot.
Um, " best debut of any SW show in 2024" ? I guess Tales of the Empire was the only other show this year as I remember. Not much of a contest, is it? Spinning webs of deceit, the mouse house roars..er...mews.
Once all the George Lucas' worshippers still stuck in the 80s frustration about Disney's direction are done back-lashing and the show ages a bit, It should be just like Andor and become a masterpiece.
I think its wild how our metrics for success have changed so wildly in the streaming era. 11 million viewers on a broadcast network would be a full-on home run. Granted, a network show would be generating ad revenue, and wouldn't have had a budget like this. So I get that the paradigm for media consumption has changed. Still, I'm just old enough to feel weird seeing 11 million views treated as mediocre.
As far as familiar vs new, I want a mix of both. I love that we're exploring the tail end of the High Republic, but in no way to I want them to abandon the Skywalker era entirely. There's still plenty of story to be told, and personally I think animation is the way to go. It costs less, its way easier to find voice doubles than to recast these iconic characters in live action, and frankly, the animated content we've had to date has been the high point of the franchise since the OT. Honestly, despite really looking forward to seasons 2 of Andor and Ahsoka, I'd be fine if all the TV stuff was animated going forward. Save the live action installments for feature films.
Don't worry if the views end up being low overall they will just blame the small emphasis on SMALL but vocal minority of haters for it. Even though we know that the bulk of the viewership for a show like this comes form the casual audience that isn't terminally online and has no idea about the haters of the lovers of the show or any controversy. But hey as long as Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't has to take responsibility cuz they can default to throwing blame to the "ists" and "isms" and "phobias" they are A okay lol
Disney has say they have 150 million accounts. 11 million views is not 13% that is 7.3. Its not that great, Disney is fudging their numbers. I will watch episode 3 but if they continue to make the jedi look like inept keystone cops I will be done,
For the question @StarWarsMeg asked at the end I have one answer ... remember the Clone Wars episode 1, where Joda asked the clones to remove their helmets, and they said "nothing to look here" ... "..deceive the eyes can, in force very different each one are" . And this was one of the problems I had with the Indara scene ... but if we look closely we don't know whether Indara knows that this was either Mea or Osha, she just said "You ....?"
This show, thus far (2 episodes), has been better than I expected. However, it’s not anywhere near what STAR WARS should be.
if a shrug emoji turned into a TV show, it would be the acolyte. 5 years and 200+ million later and this is all they have to show for it? embarrassing. writing, acting and production all interchangeable with generic CW content.
I like the Acolyte show and Episode 3 was very interesting in my opinion as it pertains to the perspective of Osha and the witches. I do believe that Mae's perspective has to be explored. There is something that I believe that Torbin and Indara did that was unsavory but in their minds they were "defending" their principles against the "evil" witches and the dark side threat. I believe Sol and Kalnaaka weren't involved directly. I am curious to find out what happened prior to the fire and the closed door. I am also interested to see if the Zabrak "mother" was killed or did she survive and become like Kreia from KOTOR
Star Wars is not the place to push adult political agendas. The director is bragging about this. Fans hate this series. 26% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
That is because you have been part of a coordinated effort to review bomb it, starting from when the project was first announced. You clearly hate Star Wars.
@@craigmoffitt2374 nice bit of gatekeeping, you can love a franchise but still be critical of sub par or rubbish content.
@@craigmoffitt2374 Your delusion is quite pathetic.
@@AilikorDo you actually believe all those 1 star ratings and reviews are genuine?
Nothing but review bombers (likely similar to yourself). Probably haven't even bothered to watch the show. Your agenda is just to hate anything Disney SW.
200 million dollar budget, highest budget of any Star Wars show, and performed worse then every Star Wars show. Less viewers watching, horrible reviews, and a narrative that the overwhelming majority of viewers are not interested in continuing to watch.
They HAVE to recast Luke, Han, and Leia. Screw an animated post RoTJ, give us live action!
This is the only way.
I’m looking forward to more of the fat Jedi. Obviously yoda isn’t around to make sure Jedi actually train so they are ready for battle. Honestly it’s beyond embarrassing
If the characters aren't interesting people won't invest
Interesting for me and others like me. You not the all Holy God our Lord to speak for all people
They’ve been interesting to me. Especially the mother from this last episode. Took a second for the acting to get there for me but characters like Sol, Indarra, and even Osha have been keeping the ship sailing
The Acolyte is arguably one of the worst, most poorly written and preformed intellectually embarrassing series of any genre ever made. Episode 3 just tripled down on that big time, the Acolyte is nothing but pure unadulterated and laughable cringe not Star Wars.
Whenever I see series or movies like the acolyte, I mostly watch the reviews. I don’t actually watch the show or movies, because why would I be wasting my time if I’m gonna be cringed out? Much respect to all the reviewers out there for saving us from cringe. Lol 😅
Why does everyone in the Acolyte have a strong British accent ? This for me has ruined the show and broken my suspension of disbelief upon viewing. Horrible !!!
Maybe Torbin had a Force-inspired premonition that Mae would show up and offer him death.
One this I will give you Meg, you are the one Star Wars RUclipsr who does your best to keep a good, optimistic outlook about all of the content. But as a SW fan for over 40 years, I am not as optimistic about this show and this story.
I see no reason to care about viewership number. I'm not a Disney exec. That is their problem. I'm enjoying the show so far. Personally, I don't care to see more of Luke and Leah, or Yoda for that matter. Gimme the new.
Having just watched the third episode I'm starting to get really pissed off at the haters and the doubters. This is a good show and people saying otherwise are doing so before they've every seen it based on outside influences and opinions and not the actual show itself. I'm really sick of this crap. I used to have my problems with Disney and some of their practices and creative choices but at this point I'm ever more inclined to support them because of all the unjust BS being hurled at them.
If we want to have an honest discussion about things they've failed at fine let's do that. I don't like The Sequel Trilogy, I think it was a mistake to build the Star Wars attractions around those movies and I don't like that they are slowly connecting the Mandoverse to them either. Sone of the other content is a bit meh. Obi Wan had some great moments but the quality was uneven, same is true for BoBF and to a lesser extent Ahsoka. But a lot of the other content since Disney took over is as good as any Star Wars ever made. And even in the shows I mentioned that I thought were meh there were moments every bit as good as any I've ever seen. Overall if the Sequels hadn't been a rehash, followed by a change in direction out of left field with bad characterization and a desperate and poor quality Hail Mary attempt to fix the mess at the end I'd be content with what I've seen up to this point.
This show is only 3 episodes in of an 8 episode arc. Maybe it's going to drop the ball at some point. Maybe it will end up meh. But it certainly hasn't done that so far and I'm sick of all the hate it's getting on pure prejudice and bias that has nothing to do with the actual show.
Such a lame lame show and I was actually excited for it. I found myself super super unimpressed and it becomes more clear that Star Wars is dead, Awkwardly Disney keeps dragging the corps around and showing it off but not all of us are that easily entertained and actually require quality.
The main female character is very good, but I'll probably only watch it once, unlike the mandolorian and asoka which I've enjoyed rewatching a few times
It’s not complicated. People want Luke, Han, Leia, Vader, Palpatine and Obi Wan. They don’t want to see space lesbians or Joe Biden’s press secretary waving a lightsaber around.
“instead of creating new and interesting characters which explore themes, ideas and the past history of the established universe, lets instead reuse the same 6 characters for OT nostalgia bait” - you probably
This is better than ahsoka. I love Ahsoka so bloody much but I am sick of the galactic civil war era and the sequels era. All i wanted was another clone wars, rebles, prequels. And the acolyte delivers that. Just let me have this ive been waiting 9 years 😭😭
Meg, I purposely have stayed away from this show because of all the crap going on long before it aired. It has also kept me away from your channel and I miss your reviews and insight.
😂 I feel like I am asking your forgiveness absence and for you to take me back.
The Acolyte: Ahhh Yo-bian!? What do you think you're some kind of Jedi replacing Yoda like that?
Not bad?!! Who are you trying to fool?!!! This is the WORTS Star Wars live action series in the history of Disney +!
Intime, viewership will grow, it’s a great show. Gives new perspective on the Jedi.
i do not care about viewership, Ahsoka is a beloved character, i love her, but this is a whole new Zillo Beast lol as in new feicin show, movie series etc. etc. give it a bloody chance people. what is wrong with yee all these days. cancel culture is killing some brilliant viewing that needs time to grow. do not forget we had jack black and lizzo in the mandalorian it broke me like the last jedi for some cringe and horrible viewing i never wish to see again.
Its some nice build up story telling here for something completely different for those who do not read the books or comics and so on..
Honestly im enjoying it more than boba fett and kenobi.. there i feicin said it Disney wake up now
Not impressed. The writing is lazy and derivative. Period. Full stop.
Awful show. Badly written, wooden acting. Worse d series ever made. Kk strikes again star wars is dead
I’m really interested in episode 3 almost every critic has said it’s the best episode so far
It is.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 The paid shills love everything gay and black and who lose their jobs and access if they said anything bad about it. What's the fans score????
Wait. 13%?. 4.8 millions views = 3.15% of the 153 million approx worldwide subscribers. And 11 million over 5 days = 7.5% of 153 million. So where does 13% come from? And even if true, that still leaves 87% who didn't watch it.
I would hardly call it a success. Spin, spin, spin!
It's not brand new just rehashed fluff from something else resembling a corny soap opera no originality here or there they've fired most of the good originality talent to the point everyone nervous to be themselves & function individually toxic work environment
I must admit I'm watching this, the same way people rubber neck when seeing an accident.
I want to see if episode 3 is as bad as people have said. I mean what can be bad having a show made by an activist with an openly rasist as it's star😂😂😂😂😂
Maybe don’t release TV shows in Summer? People would rather be outside and on Vacation.
This show has been meh so far. Not great, but also not the overly woke agenda pushing disaster that so many are whining and complaining that it is. Some people simply need something to bitch about while sharing that bitching to the world.
A good tv series/movie will not spark a debate about the talent of the directors and writers, nor the hidden agenda they are pushing, nor about woke or diversity. People will talk about the story and the characters in it, debating on how the story will flow in future episodes etc.
But when you see people talk about anything other than that, that series is indeed problematic and it is probably not that good to begin with.
Torbin was so deep into the Force that he likely had a Force vision of his demise.
Can't wait for this one, not because I liked the first two, but because of how bad people who have already seen say it is. I need to witness it for myself!
There is contention that the Acolyte broke Star Wars canon when the witches created force sensitives. So much knowledge has been lost over the millennia, it would be interesting to take a dive back into antiquity of these witches to explain why their knowledge base contains this lost lore.
Oh my girl Meg's a Brit??!!!! Well good day mate..!!! love you on the telly much respect!!! People find out and I know you get sick of us doin that..
am going to watch episode 3 and the rest of the episodes but i cant be hype for this show, i feel the writing, the dialogues and even some scenes are just bland like any other star wars mcu series.
just watched arcane season2 trailer and that got me hyped, watched outer range and was so good, been watching dark matter and show is very good too.
i dont get it why/how disney cant do series well.
The number is worldwide and I'll wager they took and added the 2 episodes together. This is not good and may kill the brand.