I don't think the Sith Master will be that important to the story and I'm still expecting Sol to be killed by Osha without a weapon in a few episodes. They stopped referring to it as a Sith-focused show a while ago so there may be no reveal.
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Ohd on't get it twisted Meg gets into the drama to a certain degree. She hates the sequel trilogy and struggles with lore changes like most insecure nerds.
@@TexasJoeHotDog-o4h there's more views to be had on YT by pandering to the right and incels, so if she's a shill by just not leaning into media illiterate losers she's not doing that very efficiently.
I think the Sith was posing as a witch and a possessed Torbin killed all the other witches, I don’t see it being Sol. He had a disturbance in the force reaction when Torbin died
Sol has quickly become one of my favorite characters, but I've never thought he could have these little cracks of darkness in his light that could be telling. I have to admit I really like this theory that Sol turns out to be the Sith Lord. Great video, Meg.
yeah me too lol and suspiciously enough when we first hear the dark side user at the end of the first episode the speech patterns between sol and this helmet wearing dude I'll just call zipperface because his mask looks like line up atop one another. except for the fact that when sol speaks he struggles with the English language like he's talking while chewing on an apple. but i think there is artificial enhancements buffering up zipperface. and they just did that to introduce the bad guy and to protect sol from scrutiny so soon. But god damn am I liking him for zipperface. he was so convinced may was dead. I never been that convinced unless the head detached from the neck what was it that he thought he saw that convinced him. and why the hell did he drop that as soon as ocea says, "I think may is still alive," sol: you know what I believe you yeah well now I don't believe you. you is highly dubious my friend. he's either an idiot. or trying to play the part of one so much he should be wearing clown shoes. but his stride is as confident as John wick let me tell ya. But, the thing i've settled on knowing is arriving the centerpiece of the argument is the Carrie ann moss. she failed ocea. ocea says she left. but we all know ocea is the disguise that activates to drop down over the killer. the dude who had his mind hijacked and the wookie were probably hijacked by the witches who wanted to get them to wipe each other out. but how they achieved this was by attacking the barriers the Jedi install to furnace their inner space with deep meditative peace to achieve clarity of thought. a scenario that is almost humorous concerns the witches tearing away those barriers and the wookie getting a vision of the guys under garmet and so he is threatened and compelled to attack. moss looks at her partner and in that moment she later has decided that she's going to fail ocea not cause of may but because of sol. and sol said to himself, "this bit* has got to go," because it's now obvious that ocea was quite "special" to him. we have yet to find out the exact reason why. But there is no mistake. he's my horse. i'm putting fifty down on sol.
I’m not feeling the Sol theory. His name literally means light and Osha is a play off Ashla which also represents the light. This is why he was naturally gravitating towards her. I love the conversation though. I just don’t agree with it.
There's a theory out there that she's not dead. We've seen Jedi and Sith come back from much, much worse....It's not my preferred theory but if it's a real option.
@@scottn2046 Its a good point, i mean Inquisitor Reya is alive, despite being stabbed through the chest with a Lightsabre weilded by none other than Vader If Reya can survive that, surely Indara can survive a small piece of metal I will remind people that a ligthsabre will boil all the organs nearby the wound, without having to touch them, in fact super-heat them, right through cooked an onto burnt If having all your major organs cooked to a crisp is survivable, then a smal piece of metal is nothing at all All that said, i dont think its Indara, i dont think the writer is clever enough to put in such plot twists or creativity
your videos about this show are refreshing because they are having fun analyzing and theorizing rather than focusing on the drama and politics surrounding this show and Headland. so thank you for that!
Okay this ACTUALLY makes sense! Don’t forget Leslye is obssesssd with Kreia, who was once a Jedi turned Sith Lord who spends the entire Kotor 2 game as an ex Jedi master with a different view of the force. Sol would be the perfect character to do that to! Kotor 2 ended with Kreia as the final Sith Lord that the protagonist has to face. I can see that being a similar finale for the show!
The signs of a good theory are both plausibility and believability. Sol being the Sith would be a fantastic twist, however, if Quimir is the Apprentice, and the conduit between Mae and the Sith, his interaction with Sol when he was being interrogated about the poison would've had to have had revealed Sol's identity. Sol has an unmistakable voice. One I'm not sure could be easily altered. The plausibility box is checked, but the believability box is not. But, if they manage to create a voice altering box for the Sith, or some apparatus like that, then I'm all for this twist.
This is an interesting theory. So Sol could be Tenebrous and Qimir is the apprentice before Plagueis. Kinda sucks they would retcon the species but when you look at the canon page of Tenebrous on Star Wars fandom it’s unknown. I wonder if he had a hand in the making of the twins, which causes the force to retaliate by creating Anakin.
@@Lilac-and-GooseberriesThey didn’t retcon it. They could choose to retcon it because Tenebrous’s species is only mentioned in the Legends Plagueis book, but it isn’t retconned until they choose to retcon it. Most likely Tenebrous will still be a Bith because he is canon.
This is what @starwarstheory used to be. Love your page-critical where it fits, open when it doesn’t, and focused on piecing together more. Thanks, Meg!!!
When I rewatched Ep 1 + 2 one thing that jumped out at me was Sol's odd behaviour. He aggressively inserts himself into the investigation, he's very quick to believe Osha, and doesn't put Osha in handcuffs to the great discomfort of the other Jedi. And there's something in his voice, I thought it was Lee Jung-jae's limited English, but now I think he's playing Sol as somehow who's wearing a "mask" and that flat wooden tone is the "mask", hiding his real intent. If we run with the Osha/Mae one person, then protecting the Sith assassin Mae, means protecting Osha. One option might be Sol is the Master, and the Apprentice (Ximir?) is trying to use Mae to kill him.
I do hope we will get answers to why Osha doesn't remember what happened. I don't remember seeing her getting injured and passing out, so her memory may have been wiped somehow.
I am puzzled why everything seems to assume the helmeted figure is the Master, when previous helmeted figures were always at most the Apprentice. I don't think it's too obvious that Qimir could be the Sith Master, while the helmeted figure is the Sith Apprentice. Anyway, I do suspect Sol has done some sort of "memory wipe thing" or whatever it is Jedi do to Osha. But I think it would be more interesting if he earnestly did this entirely as a loyal member of the Jedi Order, rather than a secret Sith. We're supposed to see that the Jedi aren't so great, and it would be better for this to be seen in the form of an actual Jedi rather than a secret infiltrator or betrayer. I keep coming back to the idea that the Sith wants to destroy the Jedi dream. Well, how would the Jedi dream be destroyed by some outsider instigating evil things? That's just business as usual. But the Jedi were disturbed by the possibility a former Jedi had murdered their own. That was something that they needed to keep discrete. That was something that troubled them in a way no outside enemy could. So, I feel like Sol is culpable for some very bad things, but not as a secret infiltrator. He's a loyal Jedi Master. But the Jedi aren't all that.
Precisely. Qimir is not a master. In Legends, Darth Gean was a Twi'lek Banite follower who disappeared around 500 BBY, _which breaks the millennium thing Ki Adi said,_ but it could be her. She could have returned she was in stasis, carbon-frozen, or died. One way is obviously to wake up, the second is to thaw, but the third is the most interesting. She could have imbued her helmet or an artifact with essence transfer. If the person under the helmet is being guided to bring back the Sith, it could become significantly interesting.
I think it's possible that Leslie is also reflecting upon her own life as being two people and I'm not trying to sound insulting. I honestly am not if we're looking at dual personality or dual physical traits or dual Force users being light side and using darkseid and not realizing it... Parallels
Interesting theory, but I don’t think it’s going to be that complex. The Sith Master is probably just Tenebrous or Plagueis, and they probably won’t show up at all unless there is a cameo at the end.
Interesting theory. Here is what I think might be Darth Plagueis is the master and Qimir is the apprentice and of course Mae is the Acolyte. Mother Koril for some reason I suspect has some connection to the Sith and aided in the killing of her sisters (not sure how this fits in yet). On the other hand it could be Darth Tenebrous is the Sith Master and Sol is him in disguise and Qimir is the apprentice, BUT here is yet another theory I have. It's either Darth Darth Tenebrous or Darth Plagueis who is the Sith and Sol is the apprentice who is in disguise as a Jedi to help find Acolytes for the Sith. Oimir in this later theory is probably another Acolyte or someone who helps the Sith.
I’ve been saying Sol is the Sith Lord all along. I agree that something is off with him in his scenes. Also, the logo for the Acolyte has an eclipse in the “O” which everyone, including myself, assumed it represented the twins, but could it also represent that Sol is a dark side user? Sol means sun.
I love this kind of speculation. Very interesting theory; as was the MAE/Osha dual personalities theory. Will be fun to watch the rest of the series with these in the back of my mind.
Ep1 one of sol’s younglings senses a fire sweeping ready to consume everything and Sol brushes it under the rug pretty quickly; plus I think the Actor said sol’s fighting is rooted in fear (at least I could have sworn this was said somewhere) Edit: I still think it’s more likely Oscha has the alter ego killer (the Mae personality)
*Mae* *is* *really* *dead?* I do love the theory that Mae is really dead and Osha has taken in Mae’s personality. It’s true what Allen Xie said that we never saw older Mae and older Osha in the same frame. If they’re dyads, Mae’s spirit might have taken over Osha’s body and mind. Think *Moon* *Knight.* The younger Mae and Osha were portrayed by twins but were not identical while older Mae and Osha are portrayed by one person. Mae could really be dead. Osha has two personalities in her. Mae the Force be with you, Osha. “You're with me, I'm with you. *Always* *one,* but born as two.” Happy Dyad’s Day, everyone! 😂 The Acolyte Ep 1-3: C- (that’s forgiving) The Boys S4 Ep 1-3: B- (worst start for it) Time for House of the Dragon S2 to save the summer. We get Blood & Cheese in Ep 1 tonight and Battle at Rook’s Rest in Ep 4.
I've seen many people with this theory--that Mae and Osha are one person. But I don't understand how that would work practically? Like in Fight Club, when you learn the truth, you look back on the movie and it sort of blows your mind how Ed Norton and Durden never DID anything at the same time, like it's totally feasible that it really was one person all along. But in the Acolyte, there are already multiple times where Mae and Osha are both doing things, interacting with people, killing people, etc, in different places at the same time. The most clear one being when Mae is giving poison to Torbin while Osha is with Sol and the others, but there are others too.
Awesome theory Meg….i don’t particularly love this series, but I don’t find it as bad as most people seem to. I’m waiting for episode 5 to blow everything apart, and reveal that we’ve been misled, or are just seeing part of the story (didn’t they say that episode 5 would be the most shocking or most crazy or most something?). I REALLY like your theory of this video, and Sol being the bad guy (i thought it was a little too obvious in episode one that the “good guy” would be named “Master Sol” (equating his name with the sun, or “light”, when in reality, he DARK!). I think your theory will end up addressing a lot of critics complaints about the story…but unfortunately, by that time, many of them will have stopped watching. Fingers crossed that you’re right Meg….nice thinking!
Sol has told a few lies: How did he know that Mae started the fire unless he was already there? He told Osha he tried to save Mae. Nope. He arrived after Mae had already fallen. How come Osha didn’t remember Mae started a fire when she woke up? Sol told Jecki that he met Osha when he was stationed on Brendack. Another lie. Brendack was an uninhabited planet. Why were the Jedi only interested in Osha, when Mae seemed more powerful? Who deleted the fact that Osha had a sister from her file? All of this seemed planned by a master mind.
I think there are some other things to suggest that he is training Mae. He said that he wanted to save them both which seems like a regret that he is still carrying. He wanted to face her alone when allowing Osha to face her would have created enough of a distraction to capture her (but that would have made a short series...lol). Their fight seemed like a master and apprentice fight to me, he removed all of her weapons in their fight (her master insisted that she kill the Jedi without a weapon), he tried to determine who her master was which could also be a test to ensure that the Jedi would not be able to find out by reading her mind. Also he quickly went along with hiding the possibility that one of their trained (Osha) could be responsible for Indara's murder knowing that justice would be swift, this suggests that he could be at odds with the Jedi ways but is playing along and manipulating the outcomes.
Chuck windig's aftermath novels have a gang of youths who worship the sith and collect sith items including masks which seem to possess the wearer They call themselves the acolytes of the shadows or something like that, and it seemed to be what was going on with Kylo Ren and Vader's helmet in episode 7, but went in a different direction in the films.
Wasn't Mae granted the knowledge of the witches in the ceremony? So see might have seen/ remembered that time differently. Osha might have Deen fooled as she didn't finish the right of passage that night?
So hear me out and bear with my long comment… I have the feeling that it’s osha that has the alter ego as Mae. Or… the ghost of Mae tends to take possession of oshas body. I think the reoccurring hallucination of Mae leading OSHA into certain scenarios has been an ongoing thing. She’s been haunted by Mae who gets her to follow her and takes control over her to do her biddings. There’s a reason why the twins were not identical as small children. That was deliberate because they actually were NOT identical twins. If Mae were actually alive she’d be portrayed my a different actress with similar physical attributes as Amandla. Idk if someone is responsible for that wether it’s a Sith Lord creating these hauntings with OSHA, it could be sol,But I don’t see a reason. It could be mother koral seeking revenge on the 4 Jedi But my guess is that torbin has a role to play in it. His involvement in this incident caused him to take precaution to hide his involvement and possibly the identity of the sith, so he takes the baresh vow to maintain secrecy. When Mae visits him it was a sign for him that the plot is starting to unravel and his cue to take his life. He’s been in possession of the bunta since his time in brendok. I’m betting that The scene where Mae gives it to him didn’t actually happen but took place in his mind. He may have been backed into a situation where that was the only way to protect his fellow Jedi. So he took his own vile of bunta. I’m almost certain he had something to do with it because there’s a scene in the trailer which shows telnaca doing a jump attack on torbin with his saber. And at the end of ep 2 with telnaca not wearing Jedi garments suggests that he’s in exile. Along with indara calling for OSHAs training to be discontinued. I think torbin may have manipulated all this to happen. I think master sol might know about osha either being manipulated, possessed or having an alter ego and he’s going along with it to unravel the mystery. Definitely some dark force magic going on. But one things for sure, we haven’t seen the end of mother karal. We never saw her in the pile of dead bodies. Maybe she’s a Sith Lord who either infiltrated the coven or she aligned with the Sith and betrayed the coven. Karal seemed hard on osha so I’m guessing that she might be the sith and wants to unlock oshas potential and her attachment to mother aniseya was holding her back and her wanting to leave the coven were used to as a a motive to get to that point. So she destroyed the coven, causing osha to join the Jedi to lay the foundation for tapping into the force then acquire her as an apprentice. I think qimir is the acolyte and OSHA is being set up to be the apprentice and the black figure is the sith which could be mother karal. That is my definitive theory.
Your theory with Torbin having the poison all along doesn't hold up, because Mae had to have that girl help her break into the temple. The breakin to the temple by someone that looked like Osha is the only reason Osha and the Jedi even went to the temple. And the girl that helped with the break-in recognized Osha as looking exactly like Mae. So it didn't all happen in Torbin's mind. Even if it isn't what we think, *someone* broke into the temple looking like Mae/Osha, and getting that little girl's help. As for the twins not looking identical, that may have just been the nature of the twins they were able to cast, the twins that were the best actors that looked the most like Amanla just weren't quite identical, I wouldn't read into that too much.
@@erinm9445 ok so possible that she snuck in the first time but likely not the second. I still could be wrong but Mae and osha are definitely the same person. I’m using fight club as the basis for this theory. Throughout the movie we thought the two main characters were two different ppl and were depicted as such but at the end it made it clear that they were the same and gave more visual exposition about how the main character moved. I think the same will happen with the acolyte as leslye stated that she told her cast members to watch fight club. And also force projection is also a thing in Star Wars now.
I might be completely alone on this boat but I personally had no issue with ep 3 of the acolyte, I don’t think it cahnged or recton s anything we know about the force, these witches just have a different view in the force than the Jedi, no different to the Zeffo from fallen order who saw it as the life wind. Mae and Osha were created by mother Anaseya using the force to manipulate the michlorians, unlike Anakin who was created Purely by the Force.
This theory rings true to me. That Sol doesn't let Qimir get mind interrogated by Yord and Sol doesn't do anything that way after Qimir confesses and pleads to be let go supports it. As does episode 4 when Qimir tells Mae how fond Osha seems to be towards Sol and seems to be evaluating or influencing her. Maybe helping her to kill Kelnacca without a weapon by having someone else do it like Smilo Ren (Qimir). Even if first unintentional by Mae she will still learn the lesson, just some more crazy thoughts to fuel the fire
When i was watching i thought straight away that there was something a bit off with Sol just appearing like that when the fire happened. It had only been burning for 10-20 mins maximum - the length of time it would’ve taken Osha to escape and run down a tunnel (which weirdly led her to the one place in a massive hollowed out mountain-castle where May was standing but that’s another of many dumb things) - and there he was. How? Why?
I think you have nailed it, Meg! Something is intentionally off about these 4 Jedi's and this makes the most sense. Thank you for keeping to the story and not use your platform to promote Star Wars hate or disguised bigotry towards women, blacks, and gays.
Ive actually had this thought because I feel like Sol is very focused on emotions...as well as some of the things he said that were not in line w the jedi philosophy.
Very good theory. That Sol is the sith . In the end of EP 3. 3:40 . How can Sol know that Mae started the fire ? He tells Osha that is waking up that Mae killed everyone. How could he known all these details when he wasn't there to see it.
We may not know who the Sith Lord is from Season 1 of The Acolyte. One thing is for sure… it is NOT Sol. We may want to start looking for evidence it is VanEstra, Sol’s boss at the Jedi Temple. She seems to be using Sol for her own Sith needs.
If Sol is the Sith (and it would be cool if he was), then the strategy of infiltrating the Republic and masking his dark side echo is one, he would pass down the line to his eventual apprentice and further on all the way to Palpatine. Which would vibe with Maul saying that they finally will reveal themselves to the Jedi. Which MIGHT mean, that Sol was never found out. Imagine that.
If Sol were the Sith Master, then that would blow my mind. Sol knows more because how would he independently know that May started the fire? The Jedi have some flawed ideology; so I do not see Sol acting in accordance to his feelings and attachments as a bad thing.
Much as I like Star Wars, I wouldn’t describe any of it as “well written”. So, every time anyone says this show is badly written, I’m like, “yeah, and …?” I mean, that’s not why we’re here is it?
This exactly! People being critical of the writing in this way--and especially the dialogue, is a head scratcher. Star Wars dialogue is notoriously terrible! And Star Wars has also always had cheesy ridiculous aliens and peoples. For all the people complaining about the witches I'm like, have you *seen* the Ewoks? Can you really tell me with a straight face that the witches are worse? Like, I'm not saying you have to like the witches (that, by the way, we've seen for all of 20 minutes), but I'm saying that letting the witches ruin the whole show for you is kinda weird, if the Ewoks didn't make you hate OG Star Wars.
Remember the Sol vs Mae fight where he used no weapon, then the line at the end of episode 1 "an acolyte fights without a weapon."??????? When you watch that fight again with this theory in mind it kinda looks very plausible
going with this theory... if it is Master Sol, and he finds this Virgance in the force, he may be looking to use it the way palpatine used it... almost like this is how the sith are trying to win, and they are doing this, like the rule of two, until they perfect it, which they think they did in the original trilogy era.
I think it’s the bald Mirialan. And I don’t think Sol trained Osha, I think he trained Mae, they made the switcharoo at the chasm, and Mae went along with it because, well, what choice did she have?
It would make sense and a cover up by the Jedi would easily explain away with a cover up as to why in the prequels it is stated that the sith hadn't been seen in a thousand years as they would be ashamed to acknowledge one of their own, a respected one at that, had turned to the darkside. Hence a grand cover up with only a small handful in the time of the prequalls would have been around for it
There are some great ideas here. This is why the show is good for me. These questions and possible paths the story could take are exciting and fun to think about.
This was my theory as well! I think the “hunting the 4 jedi” thing is more than Mae’s revenge, I think its Sol orchestrating the elimination of the three jedi who know the truth about what happened to the witches. Killing witnesses. He only targets himself-including himself in the 4 hunted jedi- as a decoy.
🤣🤣🤣 what poppycock! 🤣🤣🤣 Nothing we've been shown in the actual series supports that. If Meg's theory that you're running with turns out to be correct then Leslye Headland will have cemented her legacy as the _worst_ Star Wars content creator in the franchise' history.
People seem to be missing an interpretation of Mae's order of "kill a jedi, without a weapon". It all depends on where you put the stress. My interpretation of it is kill an UNARMED jedi. The true villain is likely to be Master Venestra
Thanks for the review. Leslye Headland seems to be doing a mystery box approach to the Acolyte. I personally don't buy the idea of Sol being a Sith Lord. The Jedi appear to be negligent rather than villainous.
Does anyone really believe the creative team can execute any quality ideas at this point? There may be a "Suprise" reveal, but will it be so full of logic holes that it is just gratuitous and not gratifying?
I’m thinking there is some twist. I don’t know or have a theory, but what we have now is basic and disappointing. I’m only watching for something more like some of the theories out there. There has to be more to this show. I think the sisters are in reverse. Mae is the good and Osha the evil one.
It is an interesting theory, however i don't think we can draw any conclusions from what we have learned so far, because the writing is so bad that where you see a clever potential plot device, might just turn out to be something Lesley didn't even give it a second thought We just cant play "what if this means this" because the writing is bad enough to allow for too many wrong conclusions In interviews she has more or less said outright that she was "faking it until she makes it", and that she "had no idea what i was really doing" She said this was how she got through the interview, and then how she set about trying to decide what to actually write about Is Master Venstra hiding something? Or is that just bad acting that happens when you are not hired for your talent, but because you're married to the writer?
My brain is turning this into something like a KotOR plotline with Osha playing the brainwashed Revan and Mae being the Tyler Durden. That's probably your faulr, Meg.
I assumed from the frist episode that the Sith was the acolyte's master, NOT the master of the Sith apprentice. This is something people are just now figuring out? I thought it was obvious. I thought we all knew that an acolyte is the apprentice of the apprentice of the Sith master. What show was everybody watching that I wasn't? SMH
I think the twins got it wrong from their differing and self serving points of view. Sol knows what actually happened even if he wasn't directly responsible. He was complicit with the conspiracy.
I don't believe Sol is a closet sith.. It's possible, but I believe highly unlikely. What about Venestra Rwoh? The parallels between her and Palpatine are there. A bureaucrat, manipulating the system, while secretly a sith. Increasing the dogma within the order, setting it up for some sith further down the line (eventually Palpatine) to destroy it. Her apprentice is Plageus.
mmmmm interesting.... honestly from the start the song and song is going trough my head.... most say its essential , but they say nothing about the dance and i also think that is a very essential thing we are missing .... and i also wonder what is so bad about the twins conception that is to detriment to the jedi.... the jedi know about the dark ways and resurrections so i dont think its that.... so i had this thought : what if Soll is the unseen dad.... that the mother took her dna and that of Soll to make the twins...?? that would be more of a scandal a jedi having kids....because its not alowed let alone having one withe a witch... the trade would be that he would come and collect one of the kids for his recruitment one day. and it would explain the song..... the "mother"and Soll did the dance and sing the song we here and see... as a lovers promise Born as one : as in insemination al be it artificial and implanted into a surrogate... it would explain the dance as to me it reads as a lovers embrace sort of dance i give you you : as in the mother gives / promises Soll the kid we call ocia (but could be another name) before the ceremony... and you give me me : as in Soll promises he will give may ( me ) to her the "mother" or the other way around.... the only thing is that the "mother" is / was going to double cross Soll and wants to do the ceremony on both kids . So what we haven't seen is that Soll has been to collect one of the kids before , its why they fled from the last home.... from then Soll was looking for them and found them again as we enter the story..... the "mothers"know this and they are afraid they wil abduct one of them , thats why they are not allowed to go outside.... they know hes spying on them....as we see he thinks that the mothers wil double cross him and thats why he was keeping an eye on them and they burst in as they do at the ceremony. he spins / spun some story for the other jedi to help him not knowing what they are letting themselves in for.... its why some regret what has happened as they unwillingly helped in a jedy that has lost his way ans thusly lost face etc etc.... the fact he knows there are jedi kids there is because he lent his dna to one.... the only thing they did not or the "mother" was hoping not to count on is that one of the kids would lean more towards the dads dna ea the jedi side and one to the mothers side ea the darker.... this happens also in real life.....ex my boy leans more to me something i did not expect as i lent more to my mum as a kid..... as to the sith....it could be that the surrogate mothers treuth art was unearthed after she had to be separated from one of her kids.... real surrogates have trouble withe this 2 sometimes as having them in your woom binds them.... so she got double crossed by Soll and "the mother".... this enraged and led her down the path of the dark side.... so dark that she possessed the kid she had the strongest bond with and try to kill everyone that double crossed her.... its why may is out to kill because its the people she could not get to anymore in the temple..... and its why Soll never said there was a twin.... because if she and the jedi could ever read his mind and know the treu story about him giving his dna to some whitches and that ocea was alive she would be on that list....Soll would be in trouble for having a kid etc.... its why ocea took distance from the jedi because she "had a bad feeling about this " and because she is no longer a jedi does not appear on the list.....and they thought she had died.... so as withe luke and laya he hid her in plane sight.... But we know that when we meet Soll he has trouble withe concealing her .... That is because he is time and time corrected by his paduwane and other jedi that he should not linger on the past , and have emotional attachments.... Its why that one jedi has not talked for over 10 years because he feared he could not keep Soll his secret anymore and blab out.... Its why Soll is so sure he would talk to him and no one else.... and he kills himself because he wants out of keeping the secret.... and he feels he as failed as a jedi in helping a fallen jedi in this "immoral"quest..... Soll wants to get there quick before he blabs the truth to the others....he was maybe even trying to kill him....he feels his passing but is not even upset by it ....he is even more relived when we get to the body....he shows no scene of morning his fellow jedi... and the question now is how did he find out Soll his secret ?? Whell he did the blood test.... then when he read the medicolrian count he must have found out that thekid had Soll his dna or very similar to it.... As far as we know he wasn't looking for ocea....stuff just happened but he was keeping tabs on his kid..... its why when they tel him the story of the murders he knows where she is and knows she is innocent.... But again who am i 🤣🤣🤣 i could be totally wrong but its what goes through my head.... ps that sith....i know the time line is totally wrong but it gives me knights of wren vibes
Like it. Had some thoughts in the same direction. I was thinking more on the lines of gene splicing. They gave us the sad tale of Dr Pershing, in the 3rd season of the Mandalorian, for a reason. In his lecture he not only talked about cloning, but gene splicing. The Republic considered both to be unethical. What if Mother Aniseya needed to use gene splicing to create the twins? If you wanted this added genetics to have high Force/Thread abilities? Where would you look for a large selection of such individuals to choose from? All you need is a few hairs with the roots attached to get a lot of DNA material. According to stories about witches they can do all kinds of spells,good and bad, with a person's hair. So they search out and steal what they need from some Jedi. So years later one of these Jedi (Sol) feels a tug in the Force. He follows this thread to this coven of witches. They go into hiding when they realize he is getting close. Sol hot on their trail. Where he is dismayed to discover the Force has lead him to twin girls. This is where things spiral out of control. This would serve not only the comment about the Jedi not liking how the children were created and not steeping on canon.
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Don't, know, care even less. The third episode was garbage. I'm done with it.
I hope it's a Sith-imbued mask guiding whoever is under there to bring the Sith religion back after the Banite end.
I'm waiting to see more but I still like the idea of it being Mae/Osha and them being the same person.
I don't think the Sith Master will be that important to the story and I'm still expecting Sol to be killed by Osha without a weapon in a few episodes. They stopped referring to it as a Sith-focused show a while ago so there may be no reveal.
No no it darth plagues master who behind everything hello both sisters or trying out for aclotey both sisters or bad one sister going kill others sister join acolyte Read it
absolutely love that you keep your feet grounded in the lore. rather than drama or getting into that world with other creators. keep it going meg.
meg goes hard in the paint
Ohd on't get it twisted Meg gets into the drama to a certain degree. She hates the sequel trilogy and struggles with lore changes like most insecure nerds.
@@ichigen511 she's not miserable about it though
@@TexasJoeHotDog-o4h there's more views to be had on YT by pandering to the right and incels, so if she's a shill by just not leaning into media illiterate losers she's not doing that very efficiently.
Yes Meg thank u
You and Generation Tech are now my favorite Star Wars channels, keep it going.
i recently discovered Generation Tech and it's a fantastic star wars channel.
I think the Sith was posing as a witch and a possessed Torbin killed all the other witches, I don’t see it being Sol. He had a disturbance in the force reaction when Torbin died
Sol has quickly become one of my favorite characters, but I've never thought he could have these little cracks of darkness in his light that could be telling. I have to admit I really like this theory that Sol turns out to be the Sith Lord. Great video, Meg.
yeah me too lol and suspiciously enough when we first hear the dark side user at the end of the first episode the speech patterns between sol and this helmet wearing dude I'll just call zipperface because his mask looks like line up atop one another. except for the fact that when sol speaks he struggles with the English language like he's talking while chewing on an apple. but i think there is artificial enhancements buffering up zipperface. and they just did that to introduce the bad guy and to protect sol from scrutiny so soon. But god damn am I liking him for zipperface. he was so convinced may was dead. I never been that convinced unless the head detached from the neck what was it that he thought he saw that convinced him. and why the hell did he drop that as soon as ocea says, "I think may is still alive,"
sol: you know what I believe you
yeah well now I don't believe you. you is highly dubious my friend. he's either an idiot. or trying to play the part of one so much he should be wearing clown shoes. but his stride is as confident as John wick let me tell ya.
But, the thing i've settled on knowing is arriving the centerpiece of the argument is the Carrie ann moss. she failed ocea. ocea says she left. but we all know ocea is the disguise that activates to drop down over the killer. the dude who had his mind hijacked and the wookie were probably hijacked by the witches who wanted to get them to wipe each other out. but how they achieved this was by attacking the barriers the Jedi install to furnace their inner space with deep meditative peace to achieve clarity of thought. a scenario that is almost humorous concerns the witches tearing away those barriers and the wookie getting a vision of the guys under garmet and so he is threatened and compelled to attack. moss looks at her partner and in that moment she later has decided that she's going to fail ocea not cause of may but because of sol. and sol said to himself, "this bit* has got to go," because it's now obvious that ocea was quite "special" to him. we have yet to find out the exact reason why. But there is no mistake. he's my horse. i'm putting fifty down on sol.
@@randomflagg7331 Nicely done.
Except Sol’s dialogue feels like it was written by AI
I’m not feeling the Sol theory. His name literally means light and Osha is a play off Ashla which also represents the light. This is why he was naturally gravitating towards her. I love the conversation though. I just don’t agree with it.
Classic movie murder mystery: You will see the actual villain within the first 5-minutes of a movie.
By that principle then Indara (trinity) may be the villain
@@sethnunez2230 - Could very well be.
There's a theory out there that she's not dead. We've seen Jedi and Sith come back from much, much worse....It's not my preferred theory but if it's a real option.
@@scottn2046 Its a good point, i mean Inquisitor Reya is alive, despite being stabbed through the chest with a Lightsabre weilded by none other than Vader
If Reya can survive that, surely Indara can survive a small piece of metal
I will remind people that a ligthsabre will boil all the organs nearby the wound, without having to touch them, in fact super-heat them, right through cooked an onto burnt
If having all your major organs cooked to a crisp is survivable, then a smal piece of metal is nothing at all
All that said, i dont think its Indara, i dont think the writer is clever enough to put in such plot twists or creativity
your videos about this show are refreshing because they are having fun analyzing and theorizing rather than focusing on the drama and politics surrounding this show and Headland. so thank you for that!
Okay this ACTUALLY makes sense! Don’t forget Leslye is obssesssd with Kreia, who was once a Jedi turned Sith Lord who spends the entire Kotor 2 game as an ex Jedi master with a different view of the force. Sol would be the perfect character to do that to! Kotor 2 ended with Kreia as the final Sith Lord that the protagonist has to face. I can see that being a similar finale for the show!
The signs of a good theory are both plausibility and believability. Sol being the Sith would be a fantastic twist, however, if Quimir is the Apprentice, and the conduit between Mae and the Sith, his interaction with Sol when he was being interrogated about the poison would've had to have had revealed Sol's identity. Sol has an unmistakable voice. One I'm not sure could be easily altered. The plausibility box is checked, but the believability box is not. But, if they manage to create a voice altering box for the Sith, or some apparatus like that, then I'm all for this twist.
The Space Witches committed group suicide when they thought the children were dead. This is what cults do remember.
This is an interesting theory. So Sol could be Tenebrous and Qimir is the apprentice before Plagueis. Kinda sucks they would retcon the species but when you look at the canon page of Tenebrous on Star Wars fandom it’s unknown. I wonder if he had a hand in the making of the twins, which causes the force to retaliate by creating Anakin.
Can't be Darth Tenebrous because he's a Bith. The same species as the Cantina Band in "A New Hope".
@@davevelez4283 Not in the new canon, his species isn’t listed. They probably retconned it.
@@Lilac-and-Gooseberries you mean Disney's Canon🤔who basically destroyed Lucas's Star Wars.
@@davevelez4283 Yes
@@Lilac-and-GooseberriesThey didn’t retcon it. They could choose to retcon it because Tenebrous’s species is only mentioned in the Legends Plagueis book, but it isn’t retconned until they choose to retcon it. Most likely Tenebrous will still be a Bith because he is canon.
This is what @starwarstheory used to be. Love your page-critical where it fits, open when it doesn’t, and focused on piecing together more.
Thanks, Meg!!!
Other options for the sith…OSHA
I love that I’m theorizing about Star Wars again. That’s all I’ve ever wanted.
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Osha is to young to be a Sith Lord. She should be 24 or 25 years old
When I rewatched Ep 1 + 2 one thing that jumped out at me was Sol's odd behaviour. He aggressively inserts himself into the investigation, he's very quick to believe Osha, and doesn't put Osha in handcuffs to the great discomfort of the other Jedi. And there's something in his voice, I thought it was Lee Jung-jae's limited English, but now I think he's playing Sol as somehow who's wearing a "mask" and that flat wooden tone is the "mask", hiding his real intent. If we run with the Osha/Mae one person, then protecting the Sith assassin Mae, means protecting Osha. One option might be Sol is the Master, and the Apprentice (Ximir?) is trying to use Mae to kill him.
I do hope we will get answers to why Osha doesn't remember what happened. I don't remember seeing her getting injured and passing out, so her memory may have been wiped somehow.
I am puzzled why everything seems to assume the helmeted figure is the Master, when previous helmeted figures were always at most the Apprentice. I don't think it's too obvious that Qimir could be the Sith Master, while the helmeted figure is the Sith Apprentice.
Anyway, I do suspect Sol has done some sort of "memory wipe thing" or whatever it is Jedi do to Osha. But I think it would be more interesting if he earnestly did this entirely as a loyal member of the Jedi Order, rather than a secret Sith. We're supposed to see that the Jedi aren't so great, and it would be better for this to be seen in the form of an actual Jedi rather than a secret infiltrator or betrayer.
I keep coming back to the idea that the Sith wants to destroy the Jedi dream. Well, how would the Jedi dream be destroyed by some outsider instigating evil things? That's just business as usual.
But the Jedi were disturbed by the possibility a former Jedi had murdered their own. That was something that they needed to keep discrete. That was something that troubled them in a way no outside enemy could.
So, I feel like Sol is culpable for some very bad things, but not as a secret infiltrator. He's a loyal Jedi Master. But the Jedi aren't all that.
Precisely. Qimir is not a master.
In Legends, Darth Gean was a Twi'lek Banite follower who disappeared around 500 BBY, _which breaks the millennium thing Ki Adi said,_ but it could be her. She could have returned she was in stasis, carbon-frozen, or died. One way is obviously to wake up, the second is to thaw, but the third is the most interesting. She could have imbued her helmet or an artifact with essence transfer. If the person under the helmet is being guided to bring back the Sith, it could become significantly interesting.
The Apprentice is Yord. That is why Osha is surprised to see him as a Jedi Knight. And Yord covers for Osha when Mae poisons the Jedi.
I think it's possible that Leslie is also reflecting upon her own life as being two people and I'm not trying to sound insulting. I honestly am not if we're looking at dual personality or dual physical traits or dual Force users being light side and using darkseid and not realizing it... Parallels
Interesting theory, but I don’t think it’s going to be that complex. The Sith Master is probably just Tenebrous or Plagueis, and they probably won’t show up at all unless there is a cameo at the end.
Interesting theory. Here is what I think might be Darth Plagueis is the master and Qimir is the apprentice and of course Mae is the Acolyte. Mother Koril for some reason I suspect has some connection to the Sith and aided in the killing of her sisters (not sure how this fits in yet). On the other hand it could be Darth Tenebrous is the Sith Master and Sol is him in disguise and Qimir is the apprentice, BUT here is yet another theory I have. It's either Darth Darth Tenebrous or Darth Plagueis who is the Sith and Sol is the apprentice who is in disguise as a Jedi to help find Acolytes for the Sith. Oimir in this later theory is probably another Acolyte or someone who helps the Sith.
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I’ve been saying Sol is the Sith Lord all along. I agree that something is off with him in his scenes. Also, the logo for the Acolyte has an eclipse in the “O” which everyone, including myself, assumed it represented the twins, but could it also represent that Sol is a dark side user? Sol means sun.
I love this kind of speculation. Very interesting theory; as was the MAE/Osha dual personalities theory. Will be fun to watch the rest of the series with these in the back of my mind.
Ep1 one of sol’s younglings senses a fire sweeping ready to consume everything and Sol brushes it under the rug pretty quickly; plus I think the Actor said sol’s fighting is rooted in fear (at least I could have sworn this was said somewhere)
Edit: I still think it’s more likely Oscha has the alter ego killer (the Mae personality)
*Mae* *is* *really* *dead?*
I do love the theory that Mae is really dead and Osha has taken in Mae’s personality. It’s true what Allen Xie said that we never saw older Mae and older Osha in the same frame. If they’re dyads, Mae’s spirit might have taken over Osha’s body and mind. Think *Moon* *Knight.* The younger Mae and Osha were portrayed by twins but were not identical while older Mae and Osha are portrayed by one person. Mae could really be dead. Osha has two personalities in her. Mae the Force be with you, Osha.
“You're with me, I'm with you. *Always* *one,* but born as two.”
Happy Dyad’s Day, everyone! 😂
The Acolyte Ep 1-3: C- (that’s forgiving)
The Boys S4 Ep 1-3: B- (worst start for it)
Time for House of the Dragon S2 to save the summer. We get Blood & Cheese in Ep 1 tonight and Battle at Rook’s Rest in Ep 4.
I've seen many people with this theory--that Mae and Osha are one person. But I don't understand how that would work practically? Like in Fight Club, when you learn the truth, you look back on the movie and it sort of blows your mind how Ed Norton and Durden never DID anything at the same time, like it's totally feasible that it really was one person all along. But in the Acolyte, there are already multiple times where Mae and Osha are both doing things, interacting with people, killing people, etc, in different places at the same time. The most clear one being when Mae is giving poison to Torbin while Osha is with Sol and the others, but there are others too.
Awesome theory Meg….i don’t particularly love this series, but I don’t find it as bad as most people seem to. I’m waiting for episode 5 to blow everything apart, and reveal that we’ve been misled, or are just seeing part of the story (didn’t they say that episode 5 would be the most shocking or most crazy or most something?).
I REALLY like your theory of this video, and Sol being the bad guy (i thought it was a little too obvious in episode one that the “good guy” would be named “Master Sol” (equating his name with the sun, or “light”, when in reality, he DARK!). I think your theory will end up addressing a lot of critics complaints about the story…but unfortunately, by that time, many of them will have stopped watching. Fingers crossed that you’re right Meg….nice thinking!
You’re spot on Meg!! Always are!!
I think it's possible, but a good mystery has multiple suspects so I'll keep on open mind for now.
I really hope that there’s an end credits scene in the season finale where we get to see the Sith Lord behind the whole events
Interesting theory, Meg! I'm getting the same vibes with The Acolyte. What we think is going on is wrong.
Sol has told a few lies: How did he know that Mae started the fire unless he was already there? He told Osha he tried to save Mae. Nope. He arrived after Mae had already fallen. How come Osha didn’t remember Mae started a fire when she woke up? Sol told Jecki that he met Osha when he was stationed on Brendack. Another lie. Brendack was an uninhabited planet. Why were the Jedi only interested in Osha, when Mae seemed more powerful? Who deleted the fact that Osha had a sister from her file? All of this seemed planned by a master mind.
exactly. Its all a bit to many missing pieces for Sol's story to fit together.
I think there are some other things to suggest that he is training Mae. He said that he wanted to save them both which seems like a regret that he is still carrying. He wanted to face her alone when allowing Osha to face her would have created enough of a distraction to capture her (but that would have made a short series...lol). Their fight seemed like a master and apprentice fight to me, he removed all of her weapons in their fight (her master insisted that she kill the Jedi without a weapon), he tried to determine who her master was which could also be a test to ensure that the Jedi would not be able to find out by reading her mind. Also he quickly went along with hiding the possibility that one of their trained (Osha) could be responsible for Indara's murder knowing that justice would be swift, this suggests that he could be at odds with the Jedi ways but is playing along and manipulating the outcomes.
Chuck windig's aftermath novels have a gang of youths who worship the sith and collect sith items including masks which seem to possess the wearer
They call themselves the acolytes of the shadows or something like that, and it seemed to be what was going on with Kylo Ren and Vader's helmet in episode 7, but went in a different direction in the films.
Mother coral is the sith. But she’s not the Sith master
Wasn't Mae granted the knowledge of the witches in the ceremony? So see might have seen/ remembered that time differently. Osha might have Deen fooled as she didn't finish the right of passage that night?
Maybe space Trinity is the Stih Lord ! 😋 Because you can work better in the shadow when everybody think you are dead .
Appreciate you for making actual theory videos about new star wars content, unlike other "theory" youtubers
So hear me out and bear with my long comment… I have the feeling that it’s osha that has the alter ego as Mae. Or… the ghost of Mae tends to take possession of oshas body. I think the reoccurring hallucination of Mae leading OSHA into certain scenarios has been an ongoing thing. She’s been haunted by Mae who gets her to follow her and takes control over her to do her biddings. There’s a reason why the twins were not identical as small children. That was deliberate because they actually were NOT identical twins. If Mae were actually alive she’d be portrayed my a different actress with similar physical attributes as Amandla. Idk if someone is responsible for that wether it’s a Sith Lord creating these hauntings with OSHA, it could be sol,But I don’t see a reason. It could be mother koral seeking revenge on the 4 Jedi But my guess is that torbin has a role to play in it. His involvement in this incident caused him to take precaution to hide his involvement and possibly the identity of the sith, so he takes the baresh vow to maintain secrecy. When Mae visits him it was a sign for him that the plot is starting to unravel and his cue to take his life. He’s been in possession of the bunta since his time in brendok. I’m betting that The scene where Mae gives it to him didn’t actually happen but took place in his mind. He may have been backed into a situation where that was the only way to protect his fellow Jedi. So he took his own vile of bunta. I’m almost certain he had something to do with it because there’s a scene in the trailer which shows telnaca doing a jump attack on torbin with his saber. And at the end of ep 2 with telnaca not wearing Jedi garments suggests that he’s in exile. Along with indara calling for OSHAs training to be discontinued. I think torbin may have manipulated all this to happen. I think master sol might know about osha either being manipulated, possessed or having an alter ego and he’s going along with it to unravel the mystery. Definitely some dark force magic going on. But one things for sure, we haven’t seen the end of mother karal. We never saw her in the pile of dead bodies. Maybe she’s a Sith Lord who either infiltrated the coven or she aligned with the Sith and betrayed the coven. Karal seemed hard on osha so I’m guessing that she might be the sith and wants to unlock oshas potential and her attachment to mother aniseya was holding her back and her wanting to leave the coven were used to as a a motive to get to that point. So she destroyed the coven, causing osha to join the Jedi to lay the foundation for tapping into the force then acquire her as an apprentice. I think qimir is the acolyte and OSHA is being set up to be the apprentice and the black figure is the sith which could be mother karal. That is my definitive theory.
Your theory with Torbin having the poison all along doesn't hold up, because Mae had to have that girl help her break into the temple. The breakin to the temple by someone that looked like Osha is the only reason Osha and the Jedi even went to the temple. And the girl that helped with the break-in recognized Osha as looking exactly like Mae. So it didn't all happen in Torbin's mind. Even if it isn't what we think, *someone* broke into the temple looking like Mae/Osha, and getting that little girl's help. As for the twins not looking identical, that may have just been the nature of the twins they were able to cast, the twins that were the best actors that looked the most like Amanla just weren't quite identical, I wouldn't read into that too much.
@@erinm9445 ok so possible that she snuck in the first time but likely not the second. I still could be wrong but Mae and osha are definitely the same person. I’m using fight club as the basis for this theory. Throughout the movie we thought the two main characters were two different ppl and were depicted as such but at the end it made it clear that they were the same and gave more visual exposition about how the main character moved. I think the same will happen with the acolyte as leslye stated that she told her cast members to watch fight club. And also force projection is also a thing in Star Wars now.
I might be completely alone on this boat but I personally had no issue with ep 3 of the acolyte, I don’t think it cahnged or recton s anything we know about the force, these witches just have a different view in the force than the Jedi, no different to the Zeffo from fallen order who saw it as the life wind. Mae and Osha were created by mother Anaseya using the force to manipulate the michlorians, unlike Anakin who was created Purely by the Force.
This theory rings true to me. That Sol doesn't let Qimir get mind interrogated by Yord and Sol doesn't do anything that way after Qimir confesses and pleads to be let
go supports it. As does episode 4 when Qimir tells Mae how fond Osha seems to be towards Sol and seems to be evaluating or influencing her. Maybe helping her to kill Kelnacca without a weapon by having someone else do it like Smilo Ren (Qimir). Even if first unintentional by Mae she will still learn the lesson, just some more crazy thoughts to fuel the fire
I just watched the episode 5 promo, and in it, it said, "They slaughtered my sisters," coming from the Sith, which makes me think it's mother Koril.
There's something more here.. it's elusive but probably once we all see the rest of it well....
Thanks Meg! May The Force Be With You...Always
I think you're right. Because at the end of episode 3 he promises her that it would never happen again. Just how Anakin promised padme.
In the last episode, I find out that the TREAD is one of the force knowledge. Thanks Dave. May the force be with U..
When i was watching i thought straight away that there was something a bit off with Sol just appearing like that when the fire happened. It had only been burning for 10-20 mins maximum - the length of time it would’ve taken Osha to escape and run down a tunnel (which weirdly led her to the one place in a massive hollowed out mountain-castle where May was standing but that’s another of many dumb things) - and there he was. How? Why?
I love the idea that Sol is the Sith Lord!! This show has a pretty rough start but the potential is great so I hope the show utilizes it well
Great theory Meg. It reminds me of the film Angel Heart. Much to be revealed there is!
I think you have nailed it, Meg! Something is intentionally off about these 4 Jedi's and this makes the most sense. Thank you for keeping to the story and not use your platform to promote Star Wars hate or disguised bigotry towards women, blacks, and gays.
We knew some was wrong with the jedis since episode 1 dude. That’s why the girl wants to kill them all
Darth Gaen was Tenebrous Master
Darth Tenebrous’ master was never named. Who are you talking about?
Tenebrous’s Master’s name is unknown, just that he is a Twi lek
Ive actually had this thought because I feel like Sol is very focused on emotions...as well as some of the things he said that were not in line w the jedi philosophy.
Hi Meg, awesome news update, I am just gonna wait and see who the sith is and I love your videos thank you SWM
Very good theory. That Sol is the sith . In the end of EP 3. 3:40 . How can Sol know that Mae started the fire ? He tells Osha that is waking up that Mae killed everyone. How could he known all these details when he wasn't there to see it.
In on3 of the trailers he ask the sith what are you so it can't be him
There will be no Sith in it. The Jedi are "evil" in this.
@t-raw4316 What are their names? Which scene was it?
@t-raw4316 dont bother,right wingers are complete shitshow in star wars.
@@papalaz4444244Leslye Headland confirmed that the masked dark sider in the last scene of episode 1 is a Sith Apprentice.
We may not know who the Sith Lord is from Season 1 of The Acolyte.
One thing is for sure… it is NOT Sol.
We may want to start looking for evidence it is VanEstra, Sol’s boss at the Jedi Temple. She seems to be using Sol for her own Sith needs.
OSHA/MAE is under the helmet. I like the idea of Sol being the big Sith reveal: It explains away a lot of the timeline issues.
Thanks Meg! 🙏
If Sol is the Sith (and it would be cool if he was), then the strategy of infiltrating the Republic and masking his dark side echo is one, he would pass down the line to his eventual apprentice and further on all the way to Palpatine. Which would vibe with Maul saying that they finally will reveal themselves to the Jedi. Which MIGHT mean, that Sol was never found out. Imagine that.
If Sol were the Sith Master, then that would blow my mind. Sol knows more because how would he independently know that May started the fire? The Jedi have some flawed ideology; so I do not see Sol acting in accordance to his feelings and attachments as a bad thing.
The villain is always the biggest role saved for the biggest actor.
Much as I like Star Wars, I wouldn’t describe any of it as “well written”. So, every time anyone says this show is badly written, I’m like, “yeah, and …?” I mean, that’s not why we’re here is it?
This exactly! People being critical of the writing in this way--and especially the dialogue, is a head scratcher. Star Wars dialogue is notoriously terrible!
And Star Wars has also always had cheesy ridiculous aliens and peoples. For all the people complaining about the witches I'm like, have you *seen* the Ewoks? Can you really tell me with a straight face that the witches are worse? Like, I'm not saying you have to like the witches (that, by the way, we've seen for all of 20 minutes), but I'm saying that letting the witches ruin the whole show for you is kinda weird, if the Ewoks didn't make you hate OG Star Wars.
Remember the Sol vs Mae fight where he used no weapon, then the line at the end of episode 1 "an acolyte fights without a weapon."???????
When you watch that fight again with this theory in mind it kinda looks very plausible
Do we know who Sol's Jedi Master is / was ?
going with this theory... if it is Master Sol, and he finds this Virgance in the force, he may be looking to use it the way palpatine used it... almost like this is how the sith are trying to win, and they are doing this, like the rule of two, until they perfect it, which they think they did in the original trilogy era.
I do think it's possible Osha had run into Sol in the forest before.
I think it’s the bald Mirialan. And I don’t think Sol trained Osha, I think he trained Mae, they made the switcharoo at the chasm, and Mae went along with it because, well, what choice did she have?
It would make sense and a cover up by the Jedi would easily explain away with a cover up as to why in the prequels it is stated that the sith hadn't been seen in a thousand years as they would be ashamed to acknowledge one of their own, a respected one at that, had turned to the darkside. Hence a grand cover up with only a small handful in the time of the prequalls would have been around for it
There are some great ideas here. This is why the show is good for me. These questions and possible paths the story could take are exciting and fun to think about.
The big problem with the jedi philosophy trying to repress their fear instead of managing it.
It's funny that I like the jedi that hasn't been in the movies or shows alot. Qui-jinn, Mace, Sol, Baylyn Skol
It would be nice that the next couple of episodes be the POV of all the players
This was my theory as well! I think the “hunting the 4 jedi” thing is more than Mae’s revenge, I think its Sol orchestrating the elimination of the three jedi who know the truth about what happened to the witches. Killing witnesses. He only targets himself-including himself in the 4 hunted jedi- as a decoy.
Nice! I like this theory!
🤣🤣🤣 what poppycock! 🤣🤣🤣
Nothing we've been shown in the actual series supports that. If Meg's theory that you're running with turns out to be correct then Leslye Headland will have cemented her legacy as the _worst_ Star Wars content creator in the franchise' history.
People seem to be missing an interpretation of Mae's order of "kill a jedi, without a weapon". It all depends on where you put the stress. My interpretation of it is kill an UNARMED jedi.
The true villain is likely to be Master Venestra
Thanks for the review. Leslye Headland seems to be doing a mystery box approach to the Acolyte. I personally don't buy the idea of Sol being a Sith Lord. The Jedi appear to be negligent rather than villainous.
Does anyone really believe the creative team can execute any quality ideas at this point? There may be a "Suprise" reveal, but will it be so full of logic holes that it is just gratuitous and not gratifying?
Sol would not be on the kill list if he was the main baddie
Thanks Meg 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🌹
Sol as the Sith Lord was my gut feeling from the get-go. It'd be way dark if it's true.
A very interesting and juicy theory you present here.
The Sith is a Jedi. I believe it's Torbin... Poison, He's the Master and Qimir is the apprentice.
I’m thinking there is some twist. I don’t know or have a theory, but what we have now is basic and disappointing. I’m only watching for something more like some of the theories out there. There has to be more to this show. I think the sisters are in reverse. Mae is the good and Osha the evil one.
I like the theory but I think the negative attention on it has done too much damage and it wouldn't matter who was introduced as the sith.
David Harewood who was cast in an undisclosed role is the Sith Master😊
It is an interesting theory, however i don't think we can draw any conclusions from what we have learned so far, because the writing is so bad that where you see a clever potential plot device, might just turn out to be something Lesley didn't even give it a second thought
We just cant play "what if this means this" because the writing is bad enough to allow for too many wrong conclusions
In interviews she has more or less said outright that she was "faking it until she makes it", and that she "had no idea what i was really doing"
She said this was how she got through the interview, and then how she set about trying to decide what to actually write about
Is Master Venstra hiding something? Or is that just bad acting that happens when you are not hired for your talent, but because you're married to the writer?
Vernestra is in this show for a reason she’s either the Sith Lord above quimir or she does to quimir
Same stance but Darth Gaen did have Essence transfer and was master to tenebrous
What if osha died, Sol saved Mae and the Jedi tried to wipe her mind and make her osha. And Mae personality is breaking through
Why choose OSHA as a Sith apprentice? When Sol had so many impressionable young ones under him at the temple?
My brain is turning this into something like a KotOR plotline with Osha playing the brainwashed Revan and Mae being the Tyler Durden. That's probably your faulr, Meg.
If we actually hear the words. "No, I am your mother " I'm not going to believe it or maybe I should believe it. It's Disney Star Wars
If Sol is the main big bad that just makes him even more of the best character on the show 🤣🤣🤣
A very interesting theory. I'm just hoping all our questions are answered by E8
I assumed from the frist episode that the Sith was the acolyte's master, NOT the master of the Sith apprentice. This is something people are just now figuring out? I thought it was obvious. I thought we all knew that an acolyte is the apprentice of the apprentice of the Sith master. What show was everybody watching that I wasn't? SMH
Sister Corolla is my bet she can possess the jedi with the force and you don't see her killed
I think the twins got it wrong from their differing and self serving points of view. Sol knows what actually happened even if he wasn't directly responsible. He was complicit with the conspiracy.
witches leave
- Red foreman
I don't believe Sol is a closet sith.. It's possible, but I believe highly unlikely.
What about Venestra Rwoh? The parallels between her and Palpatine are there. A bureaucrat, manipulating the system, while secretly a sith. Increasing the dogma within the order, setting it up for some sith further down the line (eventually Palpatine) to destroy it. Her apprentice is Plageus.
mmmmm interesting....
honestly from the start the song and song is going trough my head.... most say its essential , but they say nothing about the dance and i also think that is a very essential thing we are missing ....
and i also wonder what is so bad about the twins conception that is to detriment to the jedi....
the jedi know about the dark ways and resurrections so i dont think its that....
so i had this thought :
what if Soll is the unseen dad....
that the mother took her dna and that of Soll to make the twins...??
that would be more of a scandal a jedi having kids....because its not alowed let alone having one withe a witch...
the trade would be that he would come and collect one of the kids for his recruitment one day.
and it would explain the song.....
the "mother"and Soll did the dance and sing the song we here and see... as a lovers promise
Born as one :
as in insemination al be it artificial and implanted into a surrogate...
it would explain the dance as to me it reads as a lovers embrace sort of dance
i give you you :
as in the mother gives / promises Soll the kid we call ocia (but could be another name) before the ceremony...
and you give me me :
as in Soll promises he will give may ( me ) to her the "mother"
or the other way around....
the only thing is that the "mother" is / was going to double cross Soll and wants to do the ceremony on both kids .
So what we haven't seen is that Soll has been to collect one of the kids before , its why they fled from the last home.... from then Soll was looking for them and found them again as we enter the story.....
the "mothers"know this and they are afraid they wil abduct one of them , thats why they are not allowed to go outside....
they know hes spying on them....as we see
he thinks that the mothers wil double cross him and thats why he was keeping an eye on them and they burst in as they do at the ceremony.
he spins / spun some story for the other jedi to help him not knowing what they are letting themselves in for....
its why some regret what has happened as they unwillingly helped in a jedy that has lost his way ans thusly lost face etc etc....
the fact he knows there are jedi kids there is because he lent his dna to one....
the only thing they did not or the "mother" was hoping not to count on is that one of the kids would lean more towards the dads dna ea the jedi side and one to the mothers side ea the darker....
this happens also in real life.....ex my boy leans more to me something i did not expect as i lent more to my mum as a kid.....
as to the sith....it could be that the surrogate mothers treuth art was unearthed after she had to be separated from one of her kids.... real surrogates have trouble withe this 2 sometimes as having them in your woom binds them....
so she got double crossed by Soll and "the mother"....
this enraged and led her down the path of the dark side....
so dark that she possessed the kid she had the strongest bond with and try to kill everyone that double crossed her.... its why may is out to kill because its the people she could not get to anymore in the temple.....
and its why Soll never said there was a twin....
because if she and the jedi could ever read his mind and know the treu story about him giving his dna to some whitches and that ocea was alive she would be on that list....Soll would be in trouble for having a kid etc....
its why ocea took distance from the jedi because she "had a bad feeling about this " and because she is no longer a jedi does not appear on the list.....and they thought she had died....
so as withe luke and laya he hid her in plane sight....
But we know that when we meet Soll he has trouble withe concealing her ....
That is because he is time and time corrected by his paduwane and other jedi that he should not linger on the past , and have emotional attachments....
Its why that one jedi has not talked for over 10 years because he feared he could not keep Soll his secret anymore and blab out....
Its why Soll is so sure he would talk to him and no one else....
and he kills himself because he wants out of keeping the secret.... and he feels he as failed as a jedi in helping a fallen jedi in this "immoral"quest..... Soll wants to get there quick before he blabs the truth to the others....he was maybe even trying to kill him....he feels his passing but is not even upset by it ....he is even more relived when we get to the body....he shows no scene of morning his fellow jedi...
and the question now is how did he find out Soll his secret ??
Whell he did the blood test.... then when he read the medicolrian count he must have found out that thekid had Soll his dna or very similar to it....
As far as we know he wasn't looking for ocea....stuff just happened
but he was keeping tabs on his kid..... its why when they tel him the story of the murders he knows where she is and knows she is innocent....
But again who am i 🤣🤣🤣
i could be totally wrong but its what goes through my head....
ps that sith....i know the time line is totally wrong but it gives me knights of wren vibes
Like it. Had some thoughts in the same direction. I was thinking more on the lines of gene splicing. They gave us the sad tale of Dr Pershing, in the 3rd season of the Mandalorian, for a reason. In his lecture he not only talked about cloning, but gene splicing. The Republic considered both to be unethical. What if Mother Aniseya needed to use gene splicing to create the twins? If you wanted this added genetics to have high Force/Thread abilities? Where would you look for a large selection of such individuals to choose from? All you need is a few hairs with the roots attached to get a lot of DNA material. According to stories about witches they can do all kinds of spells,good and bad, with a person's hair. So they search out and steal what they need from some Jedi. So years later one of these Jedi (Sol) feels a tug in the Force. He follows this thread to this coven of witches. They go into hiding when they realize he is getting close. Sol hot on their trail. Where he is dismayed to discover the Force has lead him to twin girls. This is where things spiral out of control. This would serve not only the comment about the Jedi not liking how the children were created and not steeping on canon.