5:54 Good job tho 😅 Sz is like s in snake É is like a in table K is like ck in knock E is like e in emirate S is like s in shower F is like f in fight E is again e in emirate H is like h in high É is again like a in table R is like r in round V is like v in view Á is like a longer u in up R is again r in round
I love everything about Hungary in Civ 6: the civ's ability, the leader's abilities, the thermal bath, both UU, the music and the leader himself. Hungary is for sure my most played civilization in this game. Great coverage!👍🏻
Great video and very educational, my only question is how do you consistently get to the first golden age without any civ score bonus? I actually struggle quite a bit when I don't get the +4 from the lucky continental split
Most of the era score just comes from scouting, hence why I open with two scouts in virtually every game. Meeting other players is +1, finding a tribal village is +1, finding a natural wonder is +1 if someone else has already found it or +3 otherwise, etc. You can't guarantee you'll hit your first golden age when playing a civ without anything unique to produce in the ancient era, but the odds are still pretty good if you play properly. I have a youtube short on this channel which covers a lot of the miscellaneous sources of era score you can work in if it looks like you'll come up just short for your first golden age.
Glad you like the video, but base game content isn't particularly high on my agenda at the moment. Try reading Babylon's bonuses a few times if you're hungry for base-game brokenness
on average I get about 1 geothermic within a 3 tile range of my capital HALF of the time. I don't understand if it's bbm that's weird because I also seem to spawn near crazy mountain chains and very often end up being caved in. Also the rivers such the river spawn bias feels like it's the same as any other civ. Eitherway HOW DO YOU GET THESE SPAWNS?
Maybe it's because I don't fully understand the implications of CPL, CivFR, or other online bbg communities, but I feel like buffing some civs could be beneficial for variety. My main example is with the Khmer who are fairly underwhelming in bbg compared to GS, especially with the exclusion of secret societies and the nerf to work ethic. The lack of faith from aqueducts per pop., the 1 less housing, and inferior food yields means that he suffers big time compared to civs like Hungary (maybe I'm biased, but civs like Hungary and Macedon didn't need the policy card removal, simple because of the power of other civs like Australia, Ottomans, and Japan in free inquiry). Bringing him back to his base value (without changing river goddess for obvious reasons) could be beneficial to bring back religious civs on the spotlight.
Khmer could definitely use a buff right now, but I think the BBG team is hesitant when it comes to that civ as Khmer was previously one of the single most dominant civs in BBG multiplayer for years. It's been a while since it's actually been in the spotlight, though
Khmer is still very strong due to free amenities, housing, extra food. It was one of the most dominant civs in the previous CWC and really isn't that different since then, only the meta has changed
@@mammaletto Nah BBG patch 5.5 nerfed their holy site river adjacency from +2 food to +1, then patch 5.6 nerfed the faith adjacency from +2 to +1. The loss of 1 food and 1 faith in every city with a holy site along a river is actually fairly significant. Enough to push Khmer from being very strong to being average at best, IMO. That 1 extra food in particular was key to making Khmer dominant on full-plains spawns - it could get away with running Choral Music & Ancestral Hall easily, relying solely on the civ bonuses for growth. That doesn't work nearly as well now
The market took 7 turns to build in the build menu and after starting it, it changed to 5 turns. With a 50% decrease in production cost, shouldn't it have changed to 4 turns?
Hungary's bonus isn't a 50% discount, it's 50% extra production. It's actually equivalent to only a 33% discount in terms of the number of turns it'll take to complete something.
I technically already made a Nubia spotlight actually, although it predates my modern formula for civ spotlights and is a bit dry. Your feedback is noted, though
you NEED to do feudalism builder montage in every one of your videos hitting feud in this game is better than porn I swear you also have a ton of editing potential, may I suggest some songs to go with it: Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire, Perry Como - Magic Moments, Betty Chung - Bang Bang (Mixed) if playing asian civ, Smash Mouth All Star, Ain't No Mountain High Enough
This game is played in CPL, which has an elo system with rating adjustments based on your placement at the end of the game. If a game goes all the way to a victory screen, 2nd-10th place are determined by the scores players have at the end of the game. From Greece's position, he sees that Egypt and I are both in a space race. He could attack one of us - however, that would end up just handing the game to the other one, and he wouldn't really stand to benefit from this. Instead, it's actually in his self interest to go pick on a little guy (In this game, that was Russia to his north), conquering as many cities as possible to inflate his score and secure 2nd place in the game report. Egypt tried to play for 1st, narrowly lost, and got 5th place for their trouble. The CPL rating system for free-for-all games is truly infallible and creates some marvelous incentive structures.
Speaking as the Pericles player: Something Herson didn't mention is that there is a kind of general rule of not warring between long-term allies in CPL. If you 'backstab' too much, people won't trust you and will do the same to you, so it's better not to in the multi-game meta. Even though this is a ranked game, it's not a tournament game and players don't really try-hard. Herson is the kind of guy who will send units to the weakest player in the lobby if it can get him an advantage. You can see a lot of Herson VODs where he milks an irrelevant player for position. Personally I like to let the new / low skill guys chill usually. Initially I was killing Russia (who already left and was AI) cos I was not in range to bomb Egypt (he was holding up the game), but it became apparent he wasn't going to be able to compete anyway. You have to consider as well, it really isn't a foregone conclusion that Hungary wins here. He could have been attacked earlier, fallen behind in science or whatever else and not been the one to go for. As Greece I of course had a big fascism window but it's not really possible to prepare to push him when he has traders in my land seeing any potential build-up of troops. Also I am concerned the whole time that Mapuche or Egypt might push into me, especially if I am already bogged down in a war. Another thing you don't see from Herson's POV is that I was beelining Artemis at the start of the game and lost it. I ended up bending over backwards to get the first golden age and generally having a bad start. So when I am coming into this with the mindset that I am screwed, getting second seems pretty nice.
Not always. The city parks strat requires committing 3 entire governor titles to Liang early, which isn't always ideal. If I had first-met a top-tier city state like Zanzibar or Johannesburg, I may have wanted to spend a title on Amani early so that she could serve as two envoys. If my spawn was really low on food (think full plains where 1-3 forest hills are the best tiles) I wouldn't have been able to skip Magnus's promotion for +2 food on internal trade routes, which would mean that I wouldn't have enough governor titles to get Liang's city parks promotion early. It's fairly situational
I once won a domination victory on a standard size map in 141 turns on deity with Hungary and no units built except a scout in the early game def my fav civ of all time
"Just like a 9 year old girl living under sharia law, our land is fully developed and ready for some action." Sharia law says that once a girl is physically capable of bearing a child (which can be as young as 9 years old), it is okay to marry her and force her to bear children. At that point, she is "fully developed" as far as the law is concerned.
that sharia law comment was SO out of pocket LMFAOOO
Civlifer who?
LMAOOO it really caught me off guard
Yeah that really caught me off guard icl
I had to turn 10 secs back to be sure i heard what i heard
8:13 damn that’s out of pocket, well done Herson
8:13 didn’t know herson was based liked that.
Roleplaying as Hungarian
I clapped when I saw that Settler play. I clapped.
5:54
Good job tho 😅
Sz is like s in snake
É is like a in table
K is like ck in knock
E is like e in emirate
S is like s in shower
F is like f in fight
E is again e in emirate
H is like h in high
É is again like a in table
R is like r in round
V is like v in view
Á is like a longer u in up
R is again r in round
Snake table knock emirate shower fight emirate high table round view up round
the instant replay moment is why I watch herson religiously
I am a true wiggler till I die
"why dont u just move"
queue amazing heroic music
The opener was both mindblowing and eye opener. 😮
And I've been playing Civ since 2001.
8:12 ☠️
I love everything about Hungary in Civ 6: the civ's ability, the leader's abilities, the thermal bath, both UU, the music and the leader himself. Hungary is for sure my most played civilization in this game. Great coverage!👍🏻
Nubia who?
the complete whiplash from that banger music break
That was simultaneously the worst and the best instant replay I've ever seen.
Commenting in the first 3 minutes here: what a hilarious play for first settle. BRILLIANT
jesus .. that gameplay pace against a top lobby is insane .. turn 93 helicopters & spaceport and those stats!
Can't wait for someone do work out the incalculable maths for us.
Bro, you had me on edge. I was screaming in my head, "JUST MOVE ONE SPACE UP 😭" Then you did and I was happy :)
not the sharia joke☠
Man I love your humor, such great videos
Great vid, that one joke was outta nowhere lol
Szekesfehervar --> "Say - kesh - feh - hair - vahr"
wait, I just understood that sharia law comment
wtf dude
crazy tempo with your opening here herson 👍
A norway spotlight would be cool
Herson hard carrying the BBG video content niche harder than his FFA lobbies
That joke bruh 💀💀💀THAT WAS OUTTA NOWHERE
loved the first turn lol
Herson, Your videos are fantastic! I just had to subscribe!
5:52 we all, Herson, we all.
Great video and very educational, my only question is how do you consistently get to the first golden age without any civ score bonus? I actually struggle quite a bit when I don't get the +4 from the lucky continental split
Most of the era score just comes from scouting, hence why I open with two scouts in virtually every game. Meeting other players is +1, finding a tribal village is +1, finding a natural wonder is +1 if someone else has already found it or +3 otherwise, etc. You can't guarantee you'll hit your first golden age when playing a civ without anything unique to produce in the ancient era, but the odds are still pretty good if you play properly. I have a youtube short on this channel which covers a lot of the miscellaneous sources of era score you can work in if it looks like you'll come up just short for your first golden age.
Hello Herson! Do you know hiw I can see my stats in the discord? Like the stats for dofferent civs that you showed.
Typing the command .bestcivs in the commands channel of the CPL discord server.
Could you do a spotlight on a teddy bull moose preserve strategy?
One day
I usualy Play civ without the BBG cold you maybe make a Video showing the brokenness i asume is in the Basegame ?
Glad you like the video, but base game content isn't particularly high on my agenda at the moment. Try reading Babylon's bonuses a few times if you're hungry for base-game brokenness
there is a lot of other youtubers whos showing how much base game is broken, Herson is about competetive MP experience
there are youtubers like potatomcwhiskey for base game deity content
5:58 pronounce it like: seikesh fehaer vaar (say the r!)
on average I get about 1 geothermic within a 3 tile range of my capital HALF of the time. I don't understand if it's bbm that's weird because I also seem to spawn near crazy mountain chains and very often end up being caved in. Also the rivers such the river spawn bias feels like it's the same as any other civ. Eitherway HOW DO YOU GET THESE SPAWNS?
Maybe it's because I don't fully understand the implications of CPL, CivFR, or other online bbg communities, but I feel like buffing some civs could be beneficial for variety. My main example is with the Khmer who are fairly underwhelming in bbg compared to GS, especially with the exclusion of secret societies and the nerf to work ethic. The lack of faith from aqueducts per pop., the 1 less housing, and inferior food yields means that he suffers big time compared to civs like Hungary (maybe I'm biased, but civs like Hungary and Macedon didn't need the policy card removal, simple because of the power of other civs like Australia, Ottomans, and Japan in free inquiry). Bringing him back to his base value (without changing river goddess for obvious reasons) could be beneficial to bring back religious civs on the spotlight.
Khmer could definitely use a buff right now, but I think the BBG team is hesitant when it comes to that civ as Khmer was previously one of the single most dominant civs in BBG multiplayer for years. It's been a while since it's actually been in the spotlight, though
Khmer is still very strong due to free amenities, housing, extra food. It was one of the most dominant civs in the previous CWC and really isn't that different since then, only the meta has changed
@@mammaletto Nah BBG patch 5.5 nerfed their holy site river adjacency from +2 food to +1, then patch 5.6 nerfed the faith adjacency from +2 to +1.
The loss of 1 food and 1 faith in every city with a holy site along a river is actually fairly significant. Enough to push Khmer from being very strong to being average at best, IMO. That 1 extra food in particular was key to making Khmer dominant on full-plains spawns - it could get away with running Choral Music & Ancestral Hall easily, relying solely on the civ bonuses for growth. That doesn't work nearly as well now
Dry begging for Wu Zetian gameplay
The market took 7 turns to build in the build menu and after starting it, it changed to 5 turns. With a 50% decrease in production cost, shouldn't it have changed to 4 turns?
Hungary's bonus isn't a 50% discount, it's 50% extra production. It's actually equivalent to only a 33% discount in terms of the number of turns it'll take to complete something.
@@HersonCiv Ah yep, my bad! Thanks!
can u play less meta and some civ mediocre/lower tier and make them insane? nubia, maya etc.?
I technically already made a Nubia spotlight actually, although it predates my modern formula for civ spotlights and is a bit dry. Your feedback is noted, though
nubia and maya are not lower tier, they are still great civs
hungary needs stop making this amazing porn its not stable
thank you so much for this video
and I will be playing as hungary
do you still go magnus over moksha?
you NEED to do feudalism builder montage in every one of your videos
hitting feud in this game is better than porn I swear
you also have a ton of editing potential, may I suggest some songs to go with it: Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire, Perry Como - Magic Moments, Betty Chung - Bang Bang (Mixed) if playing asian civ, Smash Mouth All Star, Ain't No Mountain High Enough
actually, Betty Chung - Bang Bang keep it 100% for when you eventually make your Wu Zetian video when the spies go ham montage
it's the perfect song fit EU/NA
Do these bbg vids correlate to base game at all?
just out of curiosity, why would your ally still make alliance with you when you are gonna win. why don't they all gang up and stop you
This game is played in CPL, which has an elo system with rating adjustments based on your placement at the end of the game. If a game goes all the way to a victory screen, 2nd-10th place are determined by the scores players have at the end of the game.
From Greece's position, he sees that Egypt and I are both in a space race. He could attack one of us - however, that would end up just handing the game to the other one, and he wouldn't really stand to benefit from this. Instead, it's actually in his self interest to go pick on a little guy (In this game, that was Russia to his north), conquering as many cities as possible to inflate his score and secure 2nd place in the game report.
Egypt tried to play for 1st, narrowly lost, and got 5th place for their trouble. The CPL rating system for free-for-all games is truly infallible and creates some marvelous incentive structures.
uh that makes sense
Score whoring
this is called score whoring
it's the equivalent of the IRL "lay low and don't cause trouble" mentality
Speaking as the Pericles player:
Something Herson didn't mention is that there is a kind of general rule of not warring between long-term allies in CPL. If you 'backstab' too much, people won't trust you and will do the same to you, so it's better not to in the multi-game meta.
Even though this is a ranked game, it's not a tournament game and players don't really try-hard. Herson is the kind of guy who will send units to the weakest player in the lobby if it can get him an advantage. You can see a lot of Herson VODs where he milks an irrelevant player for position. Personally I like to let the new / low skill guys chill usually. Initially I was killing Russia (who already left and was AI) cos I was not in range to bomb Egypt (he was holding up the game), but it became apparent he wasn't going to be able to compete anyway.
You have to consider as well, it really isn't a foregone conclusion that Hungary wins here. He could have been attacked earlier, fallen behind in science or whatever else and not been the one to go for. As Greece I of course had a big fascism window but it's not really possible to prepare to push him when he has traders in my land seeing any potential build-up of troops. Also I am concerned the whole time that Mapuche or Egypt might push into me, especially if I am already bogged down in a war.
Another thing you don't see from Herson's POV is that I was beelining Artemis at the start of the game and lost it. I ended up bending over backwards to get the first golden age and generally having a bad start. So when I am coming into this with the mindset that I am screwed, getting second seems pretty nice.
So, you get first and it goes by score after that??
Do you always go city parks on hungary?
Not always. The city parks strat requires committing 3 entire governor titles to Liang early, which isn't always ideal. If I had first-met a top-tier city state like Zanzibar or Johannesburg, I may have wanted to spend a title on Amani early so that she could serve as two envoys. If my spawn was really low on food (think full plains where 1-3 forest hills are the best tiles) I wouldn't have been able to skip Magnus's promotion for +2 food on internal trade routes, which would mean that I wouldn't have enough governor titles to get Liang's city parks promotion early. It's fairly situational
amazing that babylon isnt beating us to the wonder great engineers! big misplay on their part
Babylon doesn't have any particular bonus towards getting their hands on the wonder great engineers in BBG
@@HersonCiv oh. i thought they could build mines to get early zones. must have nerfed that ability
@@KoobztheShawk They changed Babylon's ability to gain a eureka when finishing a library. No more early industrialization with 3 mines
don't sheep on anyone
😂sharia law!
I once won a domination victory on a standard size map in 141 turns on deity with Hungary and no units built except a scout in the early game def my fav civ of all time
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i don't get the sharia law joke at all
"Just like a 9 year old girl living under sharia law, our land is fully developed and ready for some action."
Sharia law says that once a girl is physically capable of bearing a child (which can be as young as 9 years old), it is okay to marry her and force her to bear children. At that point, she is "fully developed" as far as the law is concerned.