When To Pop VS Ollie when snowboarding! TB's "VS" Series
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2021
- I get this snowboard question all the time. The big question is when to pop VS ollie when snowboarding! In this video I'll dive into the when, where and why to pop or ollie. I hope you enjoy and def consider sharing this with a friend.
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Tommie, how about landing on a flat base and landing on and edge. something i am interested in knowing.
Yooo
I’d say anytime you spin you wanna land on edge to stop your momentum from keeping you spinning. The more you spin the more momentum your gonna have. However if your going straight air, u don’t need to land on edge
I'd like to know as well
IMO you're rarely ever on a flat base when riding, and when you are, it's usually for the fraction of time during edge-to-edge transitions. It's just much more stable to be on an edge most of the time, but the trick is to be as subtle with it as possible (and not lean into edges aggressively).
That said, I think landing subtly on an edge will give you the most control with maintaining direction and speed, and with sketchy landings, help mitigate a wash out. If at worst you're about to land perpendicular to the slope (i.e., eat shit), then you're obviously gonna want a bit more pressure on the edge that's closest to (or "facing up") the slope.
This is an excellent question
I’m 42 years old and all my life I have been waiting for a solid explanation. 2.0, please! Phenomenal job!
Big ups to your cameraman (person). Nicely framed shots, helping you look good.👍
This just made so much sense, ty! I was wondering why I was having trouble landing airs off of kickers and will definitely try this approach instead of always ollieing 🤙
Ive been boarding for many years, but never really thought about popping and ollie, makes alot of sense. Keep it Steezy!
Just read my mind , I've been thinking about that question for while , thanks a lot for this video 🏂👊🤟
awesome just what i wanted to see, thanks! great idea on the VS series: softer vs harder flex equipment under different conditions would be a cool one to see
you make some of the best snowboard vids ive ever seen! keep up the great work! very informal video!
This video helped me out so much man. Thank you for taking the time to make it and post. Recently a big fan of the channel brother!!! Keep doing your thing. Yewwwww!!!
this is really helpful especially coming into snowboarding from skateboarding and expecting to always ollie
Tommie, thank you for all the amazing instructional videos! Your videos have the most useful contents & offer so much more than in person coaching! I don’t think I can say thank you enough! You & your team are amazing!
I was literally looking for this kind of video 😂 thank you. 👍 This really helps :)
by the way - you have perfect landings. So smooth! And look's so effortless. ;)
Love the tips man, not long ago I learned carving because of your tips, love your vids man, I’m so happy with the progress u have made😁
Excellent vid , especially when to use the ollie v pop. I agree the pop is much more stable for takeoff and landings...
Wow I was literally thinking about this on the chairlift a couple hours ago. Stoked 🔥
Just landed in Denver from South Florida! I needed this
Great video Tommie! Can you do same video topic (pop vs ollie), but target it towards getting onto urban-style features - that'd be sweet!
Pop if it’s low enough, Ollie if it’s too high to comfortably pop onto
This guy explains everything the best iv seen on the tube when it comes to snowboarding. Hitting that subscribe for sure
From 6:42 all the way 'til the end has answered a critical question I've had because I tried to ollie off of a medium jump and my board / body went front heavy! Scared me! Some people I asked on the hill, , didn't know. I'l stick to pooping of jumps through my beginner progression! Thanks bro, your video probably saved my life! Much love from LA!
Did you spin? This is why both snowboarders and skateboarders alike spin on high airs, it gives you more control over your aerial movement. So if you sent it straight vs even spinning a 180 or 360 that might be why
Yo Tommie these video edits are getting SOO GOOD. Huge props to the camera man for being able to keep up.
Let’s go, we early 🔥🔥
Hitting big bear Monday so might have to use some of this knowledge. Trying to hit rails but new to it
Wait what? The vid was released 4 hours ago, and u comment 19 hours ago🧐 somethin ain’t right
Really cool and clear explanation, cheers Tommie!
Amazing stuff man! Thank you for everything you do.
Thank you! Just recently started hitting jumps, and was wondering why i would be off balanced in the air when trying to do grabs, im so used to just popping ollies all the time.
I just did this yesterday. So this is a lesson I'm going to memorize, but this video did an excellent job of explaining and providing examples. Time for a new helmet.
Awesome breakdown sir. Thank you 🙏🏾
Yeeeeeeew @5:18!!!! Slickest Shifty ever 🤙🤙🤙. Sick vid as always dude. 👌
Thanks a lot for this video! I'm finally getting into jumps and stuff so this was really helpful
love watching you bro!
Great video with very good explanations
Love this guy ❤️❤️, do a video of board height what’s the right size for you to have ?
That little snap on that 720 at the end was so sick.
Hey Tommie, I feel that I really struggle to spin when it comes to the 180... I feel that I need to jump so high and really force my body to turn and when I see u doing it, it looks sooo freakin easy
Great job. Helping so much.
Hi Tommie. Thank for another great video. I wonder if you can create a video to share with us how to read line when doing drop. Thanks!!
Last week I think I was too much backward on my board while hitting a jump (kinda if I was going to ollie). Result : I hit my head exactly like you described in the video. Got a concussion (I had weird visuals for about 1h). Were your helmets guys :) Awesome video by the way, can't wait to hit the slopes again! Also video idea : hitting the half-pipe, maybe :)?
Yes wear your helmet and be safe!! Glad you're OK. Last weekend while skiing with my kids we saw Life Flight land to evacuate a guy that got seriously injured in the freestyle park. Be safe out there!
Hi, do you mind explain a little bit more why hitting a jump with too much weight on the back foot might hit your head? Did you fall forward or backward?
@@zlhuang3596 Tommy explained it at 6:58
U actually answered my question lol awesome it helps a ton
mega props to the skier following you with the camera.
Been waiting for years for someone to make this video
I hope you get a chance to cover this in full nerdy detail but how do you land? I am thinking particularly for myself about landing switch but I figure it all works both ways so I’m asking more generally how to land. I can ride the whole mountain, do pow butters, carve, and all sorts of stuff switch. I can take off switch really well too, but the one thing I can never get right is landing switch. I always end up folding at the waste or over rotating or just generally look loose when landing switch.
hey Tommie, great vid, i remember you had one where you explain why you do the cross arms before a jump, something abt making sure your knees and body were stacked in the right position, do you have the name of that vid handy? can’t seem to remember what it was called
this just helped me so much. thank you sir
this was exactly what i needed dude.
That 360 seatbelt at 8:48 was niiiiiceee 👌🏻 Tom
Awesome Tommie. Can you please tell is the k2 clicker xhb worth getting. I'm thinking about buying it but need more info on it
very informative! Thanks.
Huge booster popping later in the jump, definitely felt more balanced
🔥 ooo yes! Gooo Tommie!!!
During those 180s and 3’s, how do you know what edge to land on? Is it typically just the one you take off from?
Awesome camera work!!!
This is truly helpful! Thx!
Ideally where would you start your pop off the jump if you could choose every time? Is it pretty much the second your front foot is still in contact with the snow near the lip? A foot before? Depends on the size of the jump?
Hi Tommie, when to use ollie and when to use pop?
In the video you said, when the ground is lifting you up use pop; otherwise use ollie.
Does that mean usually you only use pop? Because without the ground lifting you, what is the fun of jumping?
You said something about different type of boards. I was wondering, is a hybrid rocker a good idea to buy if i want to go all mountain as well as freestyle?
This dude is awesome.
Hi thanks for the video, any tip to able to jump more than 1mm its really hard for me to jump just a tiny bit
QUESTION: on park jumps, it seems like on any kind of straight air you lean forward just a tiny bit as you take off, to create a parabola where you angle yourself downwards towards the landing (to avoid landing in the back seat). But on spinning tricks, you fully commit to the upward angle of the take off, and are often at right angles to the landing as you fly towards the landing. Then you use your just your legs to execute what looks like a massively-back-seat landing, but use the friction of the edge of your snowboard upon landing to correct your upper body position as you ride away from touchdown. Essentially you are using the landing CARVE and edge switch to put your upper body upright, but you landed hugely in the back seat. I'm guessing all of this is subconscious, but I feel like nobody is talking about this, and the upward slant of the takeoff (and downward slant of the landing) really messes with my head. To be clear, the backseat landings after (perhaps corked) spinning tricks look awesome, I am just trying to understand the physics. Learning forward slightly while taking off for a spinning trick, in order to angle your upper body ready for the eventual landing seems uncomfortable, so I think we need to acknowledge that we are actually landing hugely in the back seat and then using a post landing carve and edge switch to correct our center of mass.
hi mate! Does the shoes affect the hight of ollie ? If yest what shoes would you reccomand for make ollie easier and higher? Thx
how do you run your bindings? tight and toes out? looser but toes in? i like my bindings to be kinda on the loose side and my toes around9-10 degrees out from center
Very helpful
Front-hand grabs vs back-hand grabs, or toe edge grabs vs heel edge grabs?
You are always relevant!
Nice video. How about nollie on jumps?
Yo tommie do a “top ten favorite ski resort” video
I'm new to snowboarding and have a process flying V, how does this compare to other boards for ollie and getting pop, how is it for buttering
Any suggestions for getting ollies down for those of us who used to be skateboarders? I can sort of ollie when going slow but my brain still wants to treat it like a skateboard and try and slide my front foot. I think because of this I'm not getting enough weight over my tail for long enough to load my board. I can do tail butters alright but connecting it all eludes me.
Think of jumping off one foot in basketball or something, it’s much closer to that motion than skating
@@willdykema Hmmm haven't played basketball in absolute ages but I'll see if I can tell my brain to treat it like that.
Hey, what balaclava are you using? Thanks.
Hey mate what board are you riding here and what board you riding now?
also, if it's a small jump and let's say you want to do a 180, would you need to do an ollie because with a small jump i think you otherwhise dont get enough airtime to finish it off?
Ever go to aspen or a basin?
Last video I watched the dude told me to Ollie off jumps, not two foot pop…now I have no idea what to do.
how often to you adjust your high back settings?
I use the same evo gloves!
Tommy what size board do you ride?
Great explanation i've been riding for 9 years and still took away a bunch from this video!
Is there any metric for how good you should be at snow boarding before you start trying jumps, tricks, etc.?
As soon as you can link turns and comfortable traverse the run. Start ollying all the time and popping off of tiny side hits or moguls. Spin flat on the ground. It will actually help you progress riding in general. But the big thing is think about the consequence. If you’re not on park jumps or metal rails and you’re not going super fast you’re fairly safe to play around on your board. Then when all of the basic maneuvers feel easy you can start going into the park. Ride on👍
LOL.. I've been snowboarding since 17 skating since 15. I'm 30 and untill now i thought ollies were the only way. I love riding to death yet I started to avoid rails/jumps/side features when every time i hit them something unexpectedly went wrong. I haven't "fell" since the last time i tried to hit a rail @ 20. I always rode with skaters (One friend never had the same attitude towards it after hitting a jump with an ollie) and I always considered "popping" a half-hearted attempt at getting in the air, not proper technique. This rewired my brain and i wanna go floating.
I saw it being most replayed, but what exactly is that trick on 5:57? It looks like a tripod and 360 hybrid or is there a specific name for it?
wish this video was around before breaking my wrist. i used an ollie on a ramp, dug the nose of my board on the landing, knocked myself out and broke my wrist 😂😂
You should do snowboarding vs skiing
Is it easier to pop or Ollie when approaching a rail or box ?
You're looking so fresh when you're cruisin down the slope dayuuum
what googles and helmet are those?
How should I practice while on the mountain with a limited time? I try to go out every weekend that I can but lift tickets are so expensive and I live far from the mountain so when I am out there, with a my group I want to just shred.
Could have saved money with a season pass instead of getting ripped off with lift tickets.
@@SugmaDLigmaNutz yeah I gonna do that next season. I wasn't able to get it this year 😭
@@luckmonster80 yeah, Epic and Ikon go on sale in the spring! Take your pick!
Rocker vs camber for sure!
hes not wrong about the ollieing off jumps and face planting. I did an ollie of a jump and broke my collar bone and ended my season
Dude...what is your sick playlist?
I’m looking for a new snowboard. I wear 10.5 burton boots and have large bindings, should I buy a 156W or a 156?
You can probably get away with a regular board with 10.5 sized boots. Don't really need a wide board unless you have 11.5 boots
Isn‘t it more likely to fall backwards if you Ollie when a kicker has a lot of pop?
Do you land on the front or back edge?
What is the term loading a board?
5:17 BUTTERY
Toe vs heel edge carving
Does anyone have any recommendations on whether to pop or ollie when hitting rails? I assume pop since theres a “ramp” assisting but is that correct? Thank you!
I do pops for flat rails but ollie onto downbars because I like having my tail being the first part of my board that hits the rail.
@@MW-qr8bu Got it! Thanks for the reply! I’m just starting to learn rails and theyre intimidating lol. I can hit rails on both skateboards and rollerblades so I should have the balance for the most part, its just the fact that I can’t bail that scares me on a snowboard haha.
@@xavierg343start small. start with ride on boxes, then ride on flat rails, then ride on rainbow rails, once you got that covered, try some small rails that force you to pop onto them. Be careful though. I've slammed my collarbone against a rail last season and I was out for two months.
@@MW-qr8bu thank you for the pointers. Unfortunately my local mountain, Squaw Valley/Alpine Meadows, hasnt had many ride on rails so far this season but ive been working on boxing so far. Slow and steady progression!
Killer! 🔥🔥🔥
Would you use an ollie on rollers or do a pop?
Ollie. Do a pop for kickers and booters that have a lip, but for rollers just do an ollie to get more air.
I need a 2.0 sadly even tho ur vedios has helped me progress so much safly but i also kinda need help . I here can i buy a cheap helmet thats worth buying. I wanna start to learn full park now instead of just boxes
This whole time I was trying to ollie off jumps 🤦♂️
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FRONTSIDE VS BACKSIDE, I always get confused... probably because I ride switch too much