In a world where everyone is so polarized and so certain of their righteousness, this is the most thoughtful, intelligent description of the situation I've heard to date. If only more people could see it with this level of maturity and understanding.
Agreed I'm really moved by the depth of this conversation. We're so inundated by unscrupulous intentions of many politicians and media it's very meaningful to me to see these guys addressing this moment with sincerity/passion and a genuine desire to understand where we're at. To somehow find a way through it.
Please don't ever say you're just comedians; this is one of the most nuanced, empathetic, and considerate conversation I've listened to since 10/7, and it's very much appreciated.
@@Kanemakiibecause Muslims around the world want genocide of jews and funding anti Semitics. No Muslim country took any philistine as refugees talk about Hippocrates
@@KanemakiiI agree they spread pro-Israel propaganda But I don't think it's deliberate! Every single news channel in their countries are pro-Israel and it's pretty damn hard to not be influenced by that
@@Noah-boat their* neutral* And you have no clue what you’re talking about lmao. You would have to be mentally inept to not see clear propaganda from the state of Israel at work here. Claiming this is a war, labeling one side a terrorists without doing the same for the other side, assuming there’s even a little bit of symmetry in this conflict etc etc. All of these things are factually incorrect and a product of Israels grips on the media. Even small shit like claiming antisemitism when Palestinians are semites lol Also how would I even ben brainwashed??? By who? Palestine doesn’t even have political power in any sense
Genuinely, shame on all politicians and media talking heads that cannot have a nuanced & thoughtful discussion like this. Unbelievable that comedians are the most sane & rational people left in all of humanity. *Bravo to these guys*
As a Palestinian, I appreciate this video on many levels. It was thoughtful to recognize the chasm and the fact that pushing a narrative over another (or arming) is counter-productive and will only elongate the suffering
As an Israeli, I hope a day will come where we will be able to live together and visit each other, where we can eat and laugh with no worries for our safety and lives. I only yearn for peace and seeing every civilian casualty and injury just hurts me more and more. I have no hope for our leaders but I have hope for the common people to see each other as equal. Peace, brother.
@@user-ce5vd2qv7y the boreder was bombed twice, if you think hamas is preventing ppl from leaving, i would urge you to look up who blew the border with egypt.
Im Palestinian American and I agree whole heartedly. Ive come to the conclusion that I do not side with one side I side with both Israelis and Palestinians. Its time we both live together peacefully ✌🏽
@@awesomeandstuff4698 Israeli ex-Jew here, I wholeheartedly agree with you. We are bound to live together so we must make the best out of it. Peace brother✌
@@awesomeandstuff4698 Peace is long gone. For thousands of years we’ve lived with Jews and Christians together in peace. Wars had happened but there was no real hatred. Only when the Israeli’s came the peace was fully lost. 1000 Israeli’s are killed and the world cries, but when there is occupation since 1948, Indigenous disposition, ethnic cleansing, international crimes, etc., the world does nothing. How can you ignore all of this and ask for peace?
I'm a western jew, and I have a few Palestinian friends, but I've always said "hate the government and country, but don't blame the citizens." it is the people in power that turn us against ourselves
@@kp1075 if you've ever voted for a government in any democratic state, you will most likely understand that voting for a specific leader isnt always possible. Often people will vote for more powerful people, that decide who becomes the leader.
If anyone needs more proof that legacy media is dead and doesn't represent the common people and podcasts like yours are the future of open discussion, this should nail it. Well done lads.
They're the new face of legacy media, pushing propaganda with the new fresh face of a group of friends just having a friendly conversation. In a lot of ways it's a lot worse and more insidious than legacy media.
This is probably the best conversation between friends in the public eye regarding this tragedy that I’ve seen. I think… I hope this conversation has been echoed amongst friends worldwide. Bravo.
the issue with this conversation is that its just a conversation.. everybody knows what the issue is, but no one seems to have the solution. we let things escalate to a point where conflict is inevitable and then try to find who is to blame for... happened with ISIS and Syria, then Ukraine and Russia, now Israel and Hamas. Next will be China who is poking everyone and if someone pushes back, they will be made the villain, they occupied HK and no one said a word... UN is one of the most useless organizations out there..
This is a perfect example of postmodernist morality. Acting as if the issue is too complex to understand, that there is no clear line between the victim and the murderer, as if both sides have a just cause. Add to that the Westernized view on ''outside conflicts'', as if the ''other'' live in a bubble of subjectivity and we can see things objectively, yet again, from an objective perspective, we still can't decide who is on the right. This shows that the West has lost its moral compass and the moral high ground that it stands on when ''teaching'' the world what is right and what is wrong. If you use your brain for 5 minutes you will see that the Jewish issue is created in the West, that anti-zionism does not equal anti-semitism, and that Israel is a state of evil that is built on a history full of massacres, racism, apartheid, displacement, and war crimes.
They are just a bunch of forever-young cowards. The world has spoken and is evident. Israel is a colonialist murder and Hamas is the result of Israel crimes since the occupation in 1948. So there's nothing "Complex" to analyze. They don't want to chose the correct side of history cause they are COWARDS. period
As someone who has both Jews and Palestinians in my family, oh how I appreciate thoughtful nuance and understanding. Conversations like this are way too rare. It's not, evil vs. good, this tribe vs. that tribe. It's escalation vs. de-escalation.
Crazy how people forget where they come from. Genetically many Palestinians are ancestors of jews but have converted to Islam over generations. European colonialism has used nationalizm to the detriment of the native population. That area of the world has always been a melting pot and many cultures have lived together peaceful prior to world War 1
@@aidanemmy unfortunately there are some who refuse to come to family gatherings, but the ones who do are an absolute joy and I've never witnessed any conflict within our family. Not personally anyway.
As an Israeli I thank you for this video from the bottom of my heart. I’ve been looking for anything remotely objective and could only find propaganda of either side. I’ve spent my life protesting the government I even got arrested for fighting for Palestinian rights but I did feel betrayed by the global “left” who seemed to be going so far left it was already becoming Palestinian “right” or nationalism. My vision for peace is exactly what you guys did. That everyone needs to acknowledge how fucked up everything is and how true both narratives actually are . My moms grandfathers grandfather was murdered by Arabs in 1888 that’s pre-Zionism. I still believe now more than ever in peace. I hope that Palestine will be free- but they have to redefine what Palestine is cuz it can’t abolish Israel. Never gonna happen . I hope one day there will be no countries like Lennon envisioned… Perhaps consider making a similar “both narratives” about the history from 1850s to 1948. Again… it was fucked up in many ways and both narratives are true. I hope that if many people actually educate themselves on both narratives and a balanced view then the next generation can make peace.
*_These two Sahih Hadiths are both actually in the Preamble to the Charter of Hamas. The bottom of Article #7._* *_THE CHARTER OF ALLAH: THE PLATFORM OF THE ISLAMIC RESISTANCE MOVEMENT (HAMAS)_* *_Translated And Annotated By Raphael Israeli Harry Truman Research Institute The Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel._*
*_THE CHARTER OF THE HAMAS (1)_* *_PART I_* *_KNOWING THE MOVEMENT_* *_The Ideological Aspects_* *_Article Seven_* 💣 *_The time(16) will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and ❌ them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and ❌ him! This will not apply to the Gharqad(17), which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim)(18)._* 💣
Great job Andrew! As a black American who has a tendency to relate to the oppress people in all situations, this conversation is so unbiased and emotionally mature. My heart is to make sure I pray for everyone, and to be able to get compassion and understanding from this conversation is beautiful. Wow I am pleasantly surprised, and we can have more discussions like this.
black americans have not been oppressed in America for over 60 years yet still cry oppression. Other races in America including immigrants from Africa succeed and do well meanwhile you lot just give excuses. Every single race has been enslaved, subjugated and opprressed but no one else complains about it like you lot do
black americans have not been oppressed in America for over 60 years yet still cry oppression. Other races in America including immigrants from Africa succeed and do well meanwhile you lot just give excuses. Every single race has been enslaved, subjugated and opprressed but no one else complains about it like you lot do
The importance of understanding two sides to every story is vital and these fellas have just shown why. A lot can be misunderstood when you don't just stop and reflect of both sides, especially when you have no idea about the history both have gone through. Couldn't have put it any better. Hopefully peace is found soon!
(I am jewish for context) I have always felt like a stranger in my country. My family comes from lots of different places, I see antisemitism go unnoticed, and my jewish culture separates me from the average Brit. Now, I feel like even more of a stranger in my own country. People in my own city are calling for my death and the deaths of my people. On top of that, people who are supposed to be smart call for our deaths, too. At this point, I want to move to Israel because at least there I belong even if it isn't the safest place in the world. I want peace with the Palestinians, but I also want a safe place to run to where I belong. I want to go back to my homeland, which is historically Jewish. But if I am being honest, I want peace with them, but I feel like they hate us too much. They will also not be free from Hammas for a long time, and until they are, there can not be peace.
You are absolutely right with everything you said. You, and all of our beautiful brothers and sisters are welcome to come here, to Israel. 🙏🏻💕 As horrific as October 7th was, it only united us within our country, and ended up creating something beautiful within. I was saying from the beginning, that with everything that's going on, I still feel the safest here from all other places in the world, at this time. If you do decide to come, you will be welcomed with the greatest warmth. עם ישראל חי🫂💙🤍🇮🇱🙏🏻🙏🏻🌈
@nlevy4163 Honestly, I am seriously considering moving to Israel. The only thing I worry about is money and being by myself in a foreign country. But when I remember being in Israel, I feel so at home and more connected to Hashem. Thank you so much for saying this, btw. It makes me feel like I am not alone.
@@apersonontheinternet915 I always believe that when we choose the path that feels right in our whole essence, then things will fall into place - such as finances, friends, family, chosen family, romance, etc. The universe/God your angels and spiritual team will do all that is possible to bring you all that your heart desires and to take care of you in all aspects. All you need to do is trust. One thing I can tell you, is you will feel the togetherness if you do decide to come. It's a warm feeling - especially now. And hey, if for some reason things don't work out as you had hoped, you can always go back, right? Always listen to your heart and calling 🙏🏻🌼 You are never alone, remember that💙💕💕 Good luck with any path you choose. Sending you much love, light, warmth, happiness and peace 💕🦋🕊😊.
Please search before Jewish rule who were actually arab Jews from Iraq and Egypt. Jews ruled for 400 years and it’s not the same Jews that are from all around the world. Before the 400 years of Jewish rule, it was the Canaanites and Egyptian New Kingdom which were Arabs. Israel tries to choose the timeline and attempts to eliminate the actual history. Also, DNA testing is banned in Israel due to this reason.
Finally I see somewhere someone with common sense and not a polarized view. With great arguments for both sides of the issue. We need more people like you in the media.
Im Palestinian American and I just want to say that this conversation was really refreshing, honest and very clear and concise for people who don’t know anything about the issue. I honestly support both Israel and Palestine and hopefully one day they can unite and live peacefully.
Yea well Andrew keep saying " we are not here to offer solutions " how about go against your government policy of not funding the true terrorism isreal is doing in this war since 1948 with their tax money ? That's the first step towards peace that everyone can agree on ? Right ? No ? Okey
There is no moral equivalency between authoritarian, theocratic palestine with democratic Israel. Just imagine the horrors if the palestinazis were actually in charge of the entire region.
I feel that Andrew's expression described the current situation very accurately. Desperation, at a loss, and most importantly, does not believe that things will improve are that there is a solution. We are just watching this unfold and are powerless
Agree apart from one huge thing that Hamas are in the West Bank (they just don’t rule there) along with many other terrorist organizations like the Lions Den and Palestinian Islamic jihad.
Also, Hamas was elected by the Gazan people. They do mostly support Hamas, whereas Andrew said the opposite. Perhaps Palestinian-Americans are a bit more moderate.
This is a very heady conversation. Until now, I had not heard someone publicly express the dichotomy of the emotion I feel about these terrible situations.
I clicked because i thought "oh great, what is a celebrity going to tell me how i should feel" but after watching i have to applaude everyone here for explaining certain points to people who havent read up on this situation. Well done guys!
You guys did this so on point!!! We need more people like you, more people understanding the hussle of both sides!!! We need more peopel talking about understanding, peace and empathiy!
This might be most level headed, relatable reaction to this situation I've seen on YT. I feel the exact same way andrew. All I see on social media is super hard-core takes for either side and I genuinely have no fuckin clue what's goin on. So much fake news, ai photos, msm runnin with insane stories and I'm just over here like wtfffff
It's pretty simple. Did germany commit a crime by eradicating people? Answer: YES. Now change germany with Israel. If the answers change you support a genocide. Pretty simple. How did we deal with the germans during WW2? Same thing applies to Israel.
Comedy podcast or not. You guys are a huge part of the media and the whole situation was explained extremely intelligently with actual facts for once. Well done.
After watching Andrew taking a time to talk about something most people in the world don't have the balls to speak, Respect to the team wholeheartedly 👏👏
Thank you for having an honest conversation. I don't often hear the Palestinian side from American media sources. I say we blame Britain since they started this whole mess.
As a British citizen I can get behind Britain being to blame. Our country has fucking sucked for years and will continue to do so under the current leadership haha
As a Palestinian, I appreciate the discussion and I understand the empathy displayed. To clarify, we are not against Jews, we are against Zionism. In historical Palestine, Muslim, Christian, and Jewish Palestinians were all living side by side in peace. Israel is a modern-day western colony serving a western white imperialistic ideology. It was never about religion. This is coming from a Christian Palestinian.
Stop with that lie... Arabs and jews never lived peacefully, arabs always tried to eliminate the jew juat like prophet Muhammad told them to do. Read on the hebron massacre, way before there was a single zionist on israeli land
All at peace as long as demographics are absolutely favorable to the Arab Muslim majority. The massacres started over a hundred years ago, long before any states or occupations.
@@davidbell7137 the massacres started when Palestine was under the British mandate system. When the British started disturbing a natural balance in the region and enforcing their vision of Middle East that serves their agenda. Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews always had more to commonalities in culture rather than differences. My Christian ancestors have been living in Jerusalem and Jaffa for centuries side by side with Muslims and Jews, that is, Palestinian Jews.
@davidbell7137 here we go, undoing literally everything that was said in the video. There's always someone who doesn't have half a brain to keep his bigotry to himself. Why do you have to demonise a group of people? For every success one nation encounters, another is oppressed. Understand this truly before making arguments
This is a great conversation, much much needed empathy which is greatly appreciated. Speaking personally, I had no opinions or feelings on this conflict until October 7th, and since then, I have done a tiny bit research on it, and while I still don't take one side over the other unilaterally because it's important to never forgo my right to change my mind given new evidence, information, or perspectives, I must say in response to your final statement that you called for a ceasefire that I was in full agreement with you until I found out less than a week ago that they were in a ceasefire since June or July of this year until October 7th. Maybe that changes things, that's all.
a ceasefire would stop the killings of innocent Palestinians. More than 20,000 are already dead. What more can you possibly want? Israel is not just attacking Gaza, it's also bombing Lebanon and Syria. There is no peace without freedom. Why could Israel limit Gaza's trade activities and ban items like chocolate and coriander is beyond me. Those 1000 lives were innocent but what about the 20,000 ones. were they not? they talked about an Israeli 8-year-old, what about the thousands of Palestinian children?
Thx for the conversation and sharing and some thoughts and light on the situation. Refreshing to hear a look at both sides. Anger can make poeple react out of there normal sorts.
That’s clearly because the following on this platform are brain dead! It’s as if the host himself has written all of the comments😩 not one differs in its moist praise of what was a very well prepared mostly patronising opinion with some additional shade unnoticed by most! FOH
What a powerful segment. I have a deep sense of respect for all members of this discussion. I have an emotional connection to the conflict through friends and family, and even then it's clearer than ever that this conflict is directly the result of neglectful leadership and a lack of communication. Both sides have been demonizing each other for as long as anyone can remember, and the refusal to look forward instead of tallying up blame and perpetuating paranoia is the cause of citizens dying.
wow this conversation was so real and down to earth without judgement; I like this better than the news which is geared to make chaos or sway to one side; Kudos guys i subscribed want to listen more to your discussions.
Dialogue between both sides needs to happen for catharsis to occur, as well as liberation from the chains of the past. Glad to hear people discussing such an important topic openly and honestly, thanks for posting this.
I dont see any objectivity in their takes, how does the jews living with a fear of being eradicated has to do with them coming to palestine and forming militias and terrorising palestinians pushing them out of their lands to forme a country ?? Zionists are the agressor in this conflict not the opposite. Why are the Palestinians paying for other countries crimes against the jews ??
JJ McCullough - The reason people care so much about the Israel-Palestine conflict is because to much of the world, this conflict has come to be understood primarily as a sort of metaphor for what people perceive to be the fundamental themes of power that define our contemporary world.
@@user-tf3jf2fi6dI see the conflict not just as a regional dispute, but as a symbolic representation of broader issues related to power... political power, military power, economic power, even social and cultural influence.
@@user-tf3jf2fi6d Israel basically represents the West and its ability to propagandize and turn almost anything abhorrent into something heroic. Israel was recently founded because of a genocide (holocaust) through genocide (Nakba - first genocide of the Palestinians). Yet Israel is celebrated as a symbol of "freedom" and "democracy" despite having apartheid, deep racism built into the foundation of the country, and actively committing ethnic genocide for decades. They have support all across the West thanks to religious fanatics and zionist power/money influence. See why almost every single Western politician is extremely supportive of Israel, even "progressives". Not a single other issue is seen or supported so bipartisan as this is, and that's not a coincidence.
Thanks guys for a honest discussion regarding the current state of affairs. You are showing the world how it is possible to have these conversations. Good job boys, proud of you guys.
Good approach to the situation taking time and waiting to talk about the situation and not just talking about it instantly without more concrete facts and story’s ❤
It’s both sad and beautiful to see men with good hearts come together and believe that because they want the best for their brothers and sisters- that their leaders do to.
With the much-needed thoughtful, balanced, and empathetic position you have taken on both sides, in a future episode can you share what we can do to support? Can Flagrant do a fundraiser that most effectively gets to the organizations on the ground?
As an Israeli I'm grateful for this conversation. The approach you guys took shows your values, that you put humanity high up and that's all we can wish for. Utmost respect for how mindful you were to address both sides, with humility about how much you do and do not know. This war is a nightmare come true for our country. I can only imagine the pain on the Palestinian side. The reality is that both sides are engulfed in pain beyond comprehension right now, making a conversation extremely hard to be had. The time will come, it must, only way peace and progress can be achieved. Our lives are consumed with this conflict, and we want to see it end so badly. It'll take the brightest minds years to navigate through the complexities to achieve some sort of resolution that will favor Palestinians and Israelis. Until then - I would ask anyone that's not directly related to the conflict, please please please TREAD LIGHTLY. Although you might not be part of the conflict, you definitely have on an impact on the conversation that broils and the hate it incites. The stances you take, the "facts" you share, might very well add flame to the fire. Respect our pain, be an ally and lead with empathy. May we see peace in our lifetime
Love this open and honest conversation, as someone not involved directly it's heartbreaking to see both sides so divided and frustrated. Hopefully this will lead to changes, the leaders of both sides have to commit to change one way or another.
There is a mistake. Of the 1400 lives, it is not clear what fraction was military and what fraction was civilian. on October 7 11 military bases were raided. 1
@@rhetoric5173? What 1400 lives are you talking about? I don't care about numbers, fact of the matter is that a war is beginning to unravel. A war that has gone on for the past 75 years but has never seen this level of brutality until now. It's just sad, no matter what side you support.
How is THIS the most thoughtful and compassionate conversation I have heard about this conflict to date? Thank you, gentlemen, for asking the right questions. As a veteran, I have seen firsthand the monumental difference a change of perspective can make. As Americans, it is unfortunate that so few of us ever leave our own borders. We are left at the mercy of other people for everything we understand about our world. That is its own type of imprisonment.
First time I've listened to people talk about the Palestine-Israeli conflict without feeling biased towards one faction. It's interesting how the soundest of argument is coming from podcasters and not the people in places of power. Flagrant is doing some wonderful job.
So I’m an Italian Jew that lives in Philadelphia. I do not have a lot of money. I am currently on welfare so all this Jewish money doesn’t exist for me. And the problem is that everybody thinks that Jewish people are rich and oppressive, but I’m poor and oppressed and I have to hear about this BS when I used to go to work from my coworkers who were anti-Semitic, and then all my black friends are trying to tell me I’m white, but they hate Jews on my friends tell me I’m not white I’m Jewish so also being Italian kinda adds to that so I’ve always been unique and different and I’ve always experienced antisemitism growing up and it hasn’t gone away and it’s terrible right now on the Internet, but I’m different than most Jewish people, because I will punch you in the mouth. I’m one of those Jews, who like to fight maybe that’s the Italian in me lol
Great take, guys! It's a highly complex situation; I appreciate your honesty in acknowledging that you maybe don't know enough but have made some observations and that it's a terrible tragedy all around.
If they don't know enough.. they should just shut their face. This is their PR team saying.. OK guys.. you have to make a neutral statement so you don't piss off your Jewish and Muslim fans. Instead.. they opened up their stupid mouths and compared Americans who support the troops to Palestinians who support Hamas.. a terrorist organization who has in their charter, the complete deletion of all Jews.
It is sad and to a certain degree frustrating when I see comedians having a more mature and in debt discussion then the god damn politicians....(but at least I am happy to see people thinking objectively about it, the shit shoveled by mainstream media was scary)
This was a great and balanced conversation. I truly enjoyed this commentary. In my opinion…it starts with empathy. Plain and simple. One has to be able to understand the plight and feelings of others.
Thank you this is exactly how I feel about it and this is such a great conversation, I am a black jew from east London, my mother is half jamaican and my grandmother is a 2nd generation polish jew from East London and married my jamaican grandfather in the 70s and my nan mother and father fled Poland during holocaust in 2nd world war and came to east London so the stories I would hear on both sides as my nans stories of antisemitism and my grandfather rasicism because he was part of the windrush generation, so I do feel Isolated not only as a black man but as a jew aswell and it's nice to hear your thoughts out loud. Now I am having interesting conversations with both my family and pro Palestinian friends of Muslim background. Let's have peace and love and once again thank you.
One party is called terrorist for doing less than what the other party is doing. One party is founded by the biggest nations economically. One party has been without water, electricity and gas. They’re not the same.
Not denying that Israel has killed civilians in Palestine. But have they ever intentionally targeted over a thousand and raped, kidnapped, slaughtered only civilians with no military target in mind? Israel doesn't want to kill civilians like Hamas, but yes civilians become collateral damage, especially when Hamas hides behind them (well documented).
A brave attempt at seeing and acknowledging both sides of the coin mate! Much more enlightened and deeper than the common narrative, much respect for that. And that thing about that voice, that whisper Jew's hear from that past, that worst nightmare you refused to accept still exists or a possibility, pretty spot on!
Mr Schulz lot of respect for you and your team. I thought you were just edgy comedian but you proved me wrong . I almost cried after watching your views on this complicated and super tragic events . Looser are innocent kids and people😥
@@egelNorg Oh but religious text also says that the whole world will be converted to one religion So there are are people hell bent to achieve that at any cost So no matter if you live in Switzerland, newzealand,Africa or Korea these religious nut cases will create trouble and chaos in the name of their bullshit religion ☯️☯️☯️
You guys give me hope for the future of men on the planet and hope for the world! You speak so calmly, heartfelt, nuanced, informed, rational, emotional and truthfully from your heart and with others in mind! Im gonna put a #protectthematallcosts on y’all! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I can't understand how there are people who are able to sit and talk like experts on a subject they have no idea about. And show it to hundreds of thousands of viewers. But I guess that's what happens when all the information you get is from al jazeera.
I think they did a 100% amazing job on the emotional aspect for Jews and Palestinians. But yes, they missed some important things in the substantive discussion and Israelis provide counterfactuals to each of those points:
Kudos to Andrew and the team. Well said in a time when we have such polarization. I am Palestinian and I want peace for my family and friends living under occupation. I do not want to see more children murdered for no reason but being Palestinian. I want the nightmare to end. Both sides need to stop and push for real peace.
Common Schulz capital W. You did this after all the George Floyd stuff. You speak for the average person who doesn't have a voice. It's just extremes on both sides who dominate the conversation. So refreshing, thank you. Not expected from a comedy podcast.
Geez, not what I expected from a conversation between comedians. I've lived in Palestine/Israel, Egypt, and Jordan. I really appreciate this kind of conversation. Please keep listening and pushing others to stop all their justifications of evil across the board.
Not choosing a side, is choosing pro Genocide. This isn’t about Hamas this is about the disgusting humanitarian crisis and apartheid state that’s been going on for 20 years or so
Genocide.. yes.. like the thousands of years Muslims have killed or removed completely Jewish people from all of the Muslim countries. The fact that it's in their charter to wipe out all Jews... yes.. genocide in deed. Hamas is just using this land issue as an excuse. @@Goyaboyayoga
@@SenorJoeBiden agreed dummy so the point being made that "they all support hamas because they voted for them " is null and void and you just further proved it dummy.
Thank you for the balanced approach. While neither the oppression or terrorism is justified - I think it’s important to mention how many peace resolutions were offered by one side and rejected by the other without ever offering anything other than destruction. That doesnt mean it shouldn’t be offered again but who knows
While true that resolutions were rejected, I doubt Palestinians at the time could have imagined they’d be in a position to be completely at the mercy of the terms written by Israel, while being governed by corrupt ineffectual leaders or extremists who only view you as collateral damage and good suffering optics for the cameras. The current government of Israel is full of far right hardliners that seem more than willing to oblige Hamas in sacrificing the civilian population “for the cause“. Also, Netanyahu purposely derailed peace negotiations in the 90’s and whipped people into a frenzy which led to the assassination of the then Prime Minister of Israel Yitzhak Rabin. The whole situation is awful while regular Palestinian and Israeli civilians pay the price.
@@jazzoj5The Camp David accord in 2000 was. It’s not perfect, but there at least wouldn’t be military occupation and would be independent Palestinian state.
refreshing talk from one of my favorite comedians- please keep on reminding people that Palestinians have been living October 7th everyday for the past 70 years.
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Comedians are more level-headed and intelligent than most/if not all politicians. What a world!
and more gutless it seems
U are stupid if u think they dont know what they doing, they know what excatly they doing, doing it purposely, n they enjoy it.
Comedians enjoy bringing people together. Politicians will always require causing division among the people, so the elite stay on top
Definitely more level headed than liberals 💀
Dave Chappelle had the right take
In a world where everyone is so polarized and so certain of their righteousness, this is the most thoughtful, intelligent description of the situation I've heard to date. If only more people could see it with this level of maturity and understanding.
He is so unbelievably smart and emphatic. It's unbelievable how many times you see comedians have the best view points.
I agree 100%
Agreed I'm really moved by the depth of this conversation. We're so inundated by unscrupulous intentions of many politicians and media it's very meaningful to me to see these guys addressing this moment with sincerity/passion and a genuine desire to understand where we're at. To somehow find a way through it.
No it is not. Zionism was supported by real anti semites. Educated Jews are anti zionists!
Furthermore hamas was funded by Israel
Please don't ever say you're just comedians; this is one of the most nuanced, empathetic, and considerate conversation I've listened to since 10/7, and it's very much appreciated.
except they deliberately spread pro israel propaganda while stating their views are "neutral" lmao
@@Kanemakiibecause Muslims around the world want genocide of jews and funding anti Semitics. No Muslim country took any philistine as refugees talk about Hippocrates
@@KanemakiiI agree they spread pro-Israel propaganda
But I don't think it's deliberate!
Every single news channel in their countries are pro-Israel and it's pretty damn hard to not be influenced by that
@Kanemakii maybe you're just brainwashed, and they're views are natural
@@Noah-boat their* neutral*
And you have no clue what you’re talking about lmao. You would have to be mentally inept to not see clear propaganda from the state of Israel at work here. Claiming this is a war, labeling one side a terrorists without doing the same for the other side, assuming there’s even a little bit of symmetry in this conflict etc etc.
All of these things are factually incorrect and a product of Israels grips on the media. Even small shit like claiming antisemitism when Palestinians are semites lol
Also how would I even ben brainwashed??? By who? Palestine doesn’t even have political power in any sense
Genuinely, shame on all politicians and media talking heads that cannot have a nuanced & thoughtful discussion like this. Unbelievable that comedians are the most sane & rational people left in all of humanity.
*Bravo to these guys*
As a Palestinian, I appreciate this video on many levels. It was thoughtful to recognize the chasm and the fact that pushing a narrative over another (or arming) is counter-productive and will only elongate the suffering
Peace from Israel Salam and Shalom!
@@yanaiauspicious6242 we do hope so
As an Israeli, I hope a day will come where we will be able to live together and visit each other, where we can eat and laugh with no worries for our safety and lives.
I only yearn for peace and seeing every civilian casualty and injury just hurts me more and more.
I have no hope for our leaders but I have hope for the common people to see each other as equal.
Peace, brother.
stop supporting Hamas, and ask Egypt to open up the border
@@user-ce5vd2qv7y the boreder was bombed twice, if you think hamas is preventing ppl from leaving, i would urge you to look up who blew the border with egypt.
I'm Jewish and I think your attempt to really listen to both sides is empathetic, nuanced and beautiful.
Im Palestinian American and I agree whole heartedly. Ive come to the conclusion that I do not side with one side I side with both Israelis and Palestinians. Its time we both live together peacefully ✌🏽
@@awesomeandstuff4698 Israeli ex-Jew here, I wholeheartedly agree with you. We are bound to live together so we must make the best out of it. Peace brother✌
@@ebin-d shalom and salam brother ✌🏽
@@awesomeandstuff4698 wtf!!! How can you even say that? Sporting jewish is not like sporting israelis
@@awesomeandstuff4698 Peace is long gone. For thousands of years we’ve lived with Jews and Christians together in peace. Wars had happened but there was no real hatred. Only when the Israeli’s came the peace was fully lost. 1000 Israeli’s are killed and the world cries, but when there is occupation since 1948, Indigenous disposition, ethnic cleansing, international crimes, etc., the world does nothing. How can you ignore all of this and ask for peace?
I'm a western jew, and I have a few Palestinian friends, but I've always said "hate the government and country, but don't blame the citizens." it is the people in power that turn us against ourselves
who elects the people in power? are the citizens doing anything to stop the government wrongdoing? this is the key,
@@kp1075 if you've ever voted for a government in any democratic state, you will most likely understand that voting for a specific leader isnt always possible. Often people will vote for more powerful people, that decide who becomes the leader.
When a survey they themselves did that shows 90% supporting of what hamas was doing among palestinians i don't trust the palestinians a single bit.
@@imsonny1635 Most Israelis think Israel is not bombing ENOUGH! What kind of society is this?
@@AlexanderKaytazov-vy6sf where are you hearing this? My family and friend in israel all want peace
If anyone needs more proof that legacy media is dead and doesn't represent the common people and podcasts like yours are the future of open discussion, this should nail it. Well done lads.
He is honest but not informed
Hamas does exist in the west bank they also have militants and groups in Lebanon seperated from Hizballah
they said they werent fully informed, and in general, the point came across just fine, we can individually do research, its simple guy
@@dessi2.054
They're the new face of legacy media, pushing propaganda with the new fresh face of a group of friends just having a friendly conversation. In a lot of ways it's a lot worse and more insidious than legacy media.
This is probably the best conversation between friends in the public eye regarding this tragedy that I’ve seen. I think… I hope this conversation has been echoed amongst friends worldwide. Bravo.
the issue with this conversation is that its just a conversation.. everybody knows what the issue is, but no one seems to have the solution. we let things escalate to a point where conflict is inevitable and then try to find who is to blame for... happened with ISIS and Syria, then Ukraine and Russia, now Israel and Hamas. Next will be China who is poking everyone and if someone pushes back, they will be made the villain, they occupied HK and no one said a word... UN is one of the most useless organizations out there..
Who would have thought wiener pills salesmen could have such a good conversation.
This is a perfect example of postmodernist morality. Acting as if the issue is too complex to understand, that there is no clear line between the victim and the murderer, as if both sides have a just cause. Add to that the Westernized view on ''outside conflicts'', as if the ''other'' live in a bubble of subjectivity and we can see things objectively, yet again, from an objective perspective, we still can't decide who is on the right. This shows that the West has lost its moral compass and the moral high ground that it stands on when ''teaching'' the world what is right and what is wrong. If you use your brain for 5 minutes you will see that the Jewish issue is created in the West, that anti-zionism does not equal anti-semitism, and that Israel is a state of evil that is built on a history full of massacres, racism, apartheid, displacement, and war crimes.
They are just a bunch of forever-young cowards. The world has spoken and is evident. Israel is a colonialist murder and Hamas is the result of Israel crimes since the occupation in 1948. So there's nothing "Complex" to analyze. They don't want to chose the correct side of history cause they are COWARDS. period
@@besherhamad2462your approach won't bring peace
As someone who has both Jews and Palestinians in my family, oh how I appreciate thoughtful nuance and understanding. Conversations like this are way too rare. It's not, evil vs. good, this tribe vs. that tribe. It's escalation vs. de-escalation.
i'm from Egypt and i agree
Crazy how people forget where they come from. Genetically many Palestinians are ancestors of jews but have converted to Islam over generations. European colonialism has used nationalizm to the detriment of the native population. That area of the world has always been a melting pot and many cultures have lived together peaceful prior to world War 1
Very well put amen. There is no them there's only us (Bono lyrics).
i bet family gatherings are fun
@@aidanemmy unfortunately there are some who refuse to come to family gatherings, but the ones who do are an absolute joy and I've never witnessed any conflict within our family. Not personally anyway.
As an Israeli I thank you for this video from the bottom of my heart. I’ve been looking for anything remotely objective and could only find propaganda of either side. I’ve spent my life protesting the government I even got arrested for fighting for Palestinian rights but I did feel betrayed by the global “left” who seemed to be going so far left it was already becoming Palestinian “right” or nationalism. My vision for peace is exactly what you guys did. That everyone needs to acknowledge how fucked up everything is and how true both narratives actually are . My moms grandfathers grandfather was murdered by Arabs in 1888 that’s pre-Zionism. I still believe now more than ever in peace. I hope that Palestine will be free- but they have to redefine what Palestine is cuz it can’t abolish Israel. Never gonna happen . I hope one day there will be no countries like Lennon envisioned… Perhaps consider making a similar “both narratives” about the history from 1850s to 1948. Again… it was fucked up in many ways and both narratives are true. I hope that if many people actually educate themselves on both narratives and a balanced view then the next generation can make peace.
*_@helloagain4546_*
*_Part II_*
*_These two Sahih Hadiths are both actually in the Preamble to the Charter of Hamas. The bottom of Article #7._*
*_THE CHARTER OF ALLAH: THE PLATFORM OF THE ISLAMIC RESISTANCE MOVEMENT (HAMAS)_*
*_Translated And Annotated By Raphael Israeli Harry Truman Research Institute The Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel._*
*_THE CHARTER OF THE HAMAS (1)_*
*_PART I_*
*_KNOWING THE MOVEMENT_*
*_The Ideological Aspects_*
*_Article Seven_*
💣 *_The time(16) will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and ❌ them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and ❌ him! This will not apply to the Gharqad(17), which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim)(18)._* 💣
Great job Andrew! As a black American who has a tendency to relate to the oppress people in all situations, this conversation is so unbiased and emotionally mature. My heart is to make sure I pray for everyone, and to be able to get compassion and understanding from this conversation is beautiful. Wow I am pleasantly surprised, and we can have more discussions like this.
Only love will win eventually. Appreciate you
black americans have not been oppressed in America for over 60 years yet still cry oppression. Other races in America including immigrants from Africa succeed and do well meanwhile you lot just give excuses. Every single race has been enslaved, subjugated and opprressed but no one else complains about it like you lot do
black americans have not been oppressed in America for over 60 years yet still cry oppression. Other races in America including immigrants from Africa succeed and do well meanwhile you lot just give excuses. Every single race has been enslaved, subjugated and opprressed but no one else complains about it like you lot do
The importance of understanding two sides to every story is vital and these fellas have just shown why. A lot can be misunderstood when you don't just stop and reflect of both sides, especially when you have no idea about the history both have gone through. Couldn't have put it any better. Hopefully peace is found soon!
Schulz is quickly becoming one of my favourite comedian speakers. Great work discussing this very sensible topic.
wrong he is terrible
He is pathetic..This guy spreads hate against specific groups of people under the garb of comedy.
(I am jewish for context) I have always felt like a stranger in my country. My family comes from lots of different places, I see antisemitism go unnoticed, and my jewish culture separates me from the average Brit. Now, I feel like even more of a stranger in my own country. People in my own city are calling for my death and the deaths of my people. On top of that, people who are supposed to be smart call for our deaths, too. At this point, I want to move to Israel because at least there I belong even if it isn't the safest place in the world. I want peace with the Palestinians, but I also want a safe place to run to where I belong. I want to go back to my homeland, which is historically Jewish. But if I am being honest, I want peace with them, but I feel like they hate us too much. They will also not be free from Hammas for a long time, and until they are, there can not be peace.
You are absolutely right with everything you said.
You, and all of our beautiful brothers and sisters are welcome to come here, to Israel. 🙏🏻💕 As horrific as October 7th was, it only united us within our country, and ended up creating something beautiful within.
I was saying from the beginning, that with everything that's going on, I still feel the safest here from all other places in the world, at this time.
If you do decide to come, you will be welcomed with the greatest warmth.
עם ישראל חי🫂💙🤍🇮🇱🙏🏻🙏🏻🌈
@nlevy4163 Honestly, I am seriously considering moving to Israel. The only thing I worry about is money and being by myself in a foreign country. But when I remember being in Israel, I feel so at home and more connected to Hashem. Thank you so much for saying this, btw. It makes me feel like I am not alone.
@@apersonontheinternet915 I always believe that when we choose the path that feels right in our whole essence, then things will fall into place - such as finances, friends, family, chosen family, romance, etc. The universe/God your angels and spiritual team will do all that is possible to bring you all that your heart desires and to take care of you in all aspects. All you need to do is trust.
One thing I can tell you, is you will feel the togetherness if you do decide to come. It's a warm feeling - especially now.
And hey, if for some reason things don't work out as you had hoped, you can always go back, right?
Always listen to your heart and calling 🙏🏻🌼
You are never alone, remember that💙💕💕
Good luck with any path you choose. Sending you much love, light, warmth, happiness and peace 💕🦋🕊😊.
Christ is King.
Please search before Jewish rule who were actually arab Jews from Iraq and Egypt. Jews ruled for 400 years and it’s not the same Jews that are from all around the world. Before the 400 years of Jewish rule, it was the Canaanites and Egyptian New Kingdom which were Arabs. Israel tries to choose the timeline and attempts to eliminate the actual history. Also, DNA testing is banned in Israel due to this reason.
Finally I see somewhere someone with common sense and not a polarized view. With great arguments for both sides of the issue. We need more people like you in the media.
Im Palestinian American and I just want to say that this conversation was really refreshing, honest and very clear and concise for people who don’t know anything about the issue. I honestly support both Israel and Palestine and hopefully one day they can unite and live peacefully.
Yea well Andrew keep saying " we are not here to offer solutions " how about go against your government policy of not funding the true terrorism isreal is doing in this war since 1948 with their tax money ? That's the first step towards peace that everyone can agree on ? Right ? No ? Okey
support Israel as much as u want but never say your Palestinian your a Zionist just like them
Tough to separate Hamas extremism from Palestinian innocents. Not a good answer without peace in people’s hearts.
Agreed. 67 borders all the way. Hummus wants that too They stated that in 2019 I believe
There is no moral equivalency between authoritarian, theocratic palestine with democratic Israel. Just imagine the horrors if the palestinazis were actually in charge of the entire region.
I feel that Andrew's expression described the current situation very accurately. Desperation, at a loss, and most importantly, does not believe that things will improve are that there is a solution. We are just watching this unfold and are powerless
Agree apart from one huge thing that Hamas are in the West Bank (they just don’t rule there) along with many other terrorist organizations like the Lions Den and Palestinian Islamic jihad.
Also, Hamas was elected by the Gazan people. They do mostly support Hamas, whereas Andrew said the opposite. Perhaps Palestinian-Americans are a bit more moderate.
Thank you for this, this is exactly how I'm feeling. I appreciate how you guys had this genuine conversation. God Bless.
This is a very heady conversation. Until now, I had not heard someone publicly express the dichotomy of the emotion I feel about these terrible situations.
I clicked because i thought "oh great, what is a celebrity going to tell me how i should feel" but after watching i have to applaude everyone here for explaining certain points to people who havent read up on this situation. Well done guys!
You guys did this so on point!!! We need more people like you, more people understanding the hussle of both sides!!! We need more peopel talking about understanding, peace and empathiy!
Much respect for this conversation. Everything was very well said. Props to you guys for thinking and talking this through.
Gotta revisit this topic bro
This might be most level headed, relatable reaction to this situation I've seen on YT. I feel the exact same way andrew. All I see on social media is super hard-core takes for either side and I genuinely have no fuckin clue what's goin on. So much fake news, ai photos, msm runnin with insane stories and I'm just over here like wtfffff
It's pretty simple. Did germany commit a crime by eradicating people? Answer: YES.
Now change germany with Israel. If the answers change you support a genocide. Pretty simple.
How did we deal with the germans during WW2? Same thing applies to Israel.
Comedy podcast or not. You guys are a huge part of the media and the whole situation was explained extremely intelligently with actual facts for once.
Well done.
He is honest but not informed
Hamas does exist in the west bank they also have militants and groups in Lebanon seperated from Hizballah
The one thing I have picked up since Oct 7th is that almost everyone who Supports Palestine never condemns Hamas.
After watching Andrew taking a time to talk about something most people in the world don't have the balls to speak, Respect to the team wholeheartedly 👏👏
Thank you for having an honest conversation. I don't often hear the Palestinian side from American media sources. I say we blame Britain since they started this whole mess.
how about blame also the arab nations influenced the palestinians to reject every two state solution?
@@wanderingandroid nah its definitely Britain, for being too fk'd up for making promise to the Jews without consent Palestinian
Yep, blame Sykes Picot and the Balfour agreements.
As a British citizen I can get behind Britain being to blame. Our country has fucking sucked for years and will continue to do so under the current leadership haha
whatever it is this guy is smoking pass it around@@UandMeDasame
As a Palestinian, I appreciate the discussion and I understand the empathy displayed. To clarify, we are not against Jews, we are against Zionism. In historical Palestine, Muslim, Christian, and Jewish Palestinians were all living side by side in peace.
Israel is a modern-day western colony serving a western white imperialistic ideology. It was never about religion.
This is coming from a Christian Palestinian.
Stop with that lie... Arabs and jews never lived peacefully, arabs always tried to eliminate the jew juat like prophet Muhammad told them to do.
Read on the hebron massacre, way before there was a single zionist on israeli land
You live in Israel or Gaza?
All at peace as long as demographics are absolutely favorable to the Arab Muslim majority. The massacres started over a hundred years ago, long before any states or occupations.
@@davidbell7137 the massacres started when Palestine was under the British mandate system. When the British started disturbing a natural balance in the region and enforcing their vision of Middle East that serves their agenda.
Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews always had more to commonalities in culture rather than differences.
My Christian ancestors have been living in Jerusalem and Jaffa for centuries side by side with Muslims and Jews, that is, Palestinian Jews.
@davidbell7137 here we go, undoing literally everything that was said in the video. There's always someone who doesn't have half a brain to keep his bigotry to himself. Why do you have to demonise a group of people? For every success one nation encounters, another is oppressed. Understand this truly before making arguments
This is a great conversation, much much needed empathy which is greatly appreciated.
Speaking personally, I had no opinions or feelings on this conflict until October 7th, and since then, I have done a tiny bit research on it, and while I still don't take one side over the other unilaterally because it's important to never forgo my right to change my mind given new evidence, information, or perspectives, I must say in response to your final statement that you called for a ceasefire that I was in full agreement with you until I found out less than a week ago that they were in a ceasefire since June or July of this year until October 7th.
Maybe that changes things, that's all.
a ceasefire would stop the killings of innocent Palestinians. More than 20,000 are already dead. What more can you possibly want? Israel is not just attacking Gaza, it's also bombing Lebanon and Syria. There is no peace without freedom. Why could Israel limit Gaza's trade activities and ban items like chocolate and coriander is beyond me. Those 1000 lives were innocent but what about the 20,000 ones. were they not? they talked about an Israeli 8-year-old, what about the thousands of Palestinian children?
Both sides have violated ceasefires, this does not justify the mass killings of civilians
Thx for the conversation and sharing and some thoughts and light on the situation. Refreshing to hear a look at both sides. Anger can make poeple react out of there normal sorts.
I am Arab and i love you andrew take care brother these hard days will end soon be positive peace will come and will win
Crazy to see Flagrant is one of the first podcasts too actually have a conversation about this without making themselves look incompetent .
That’s clearly because the following on this platform are brain dead! It’s as if the host himself has written all of the comments😩 not one differs in its moist praise of what was a very well prepared mostly patronising opinion with some additional shade unnoticed by most! FOH
Love the sentiment “The words of pride on our side are the words of oppression for others.” Love this thought. Forces some nuance.
We need more conversations like this. What a fantastic, insightful, conversation.
What a powerful segment. I have a deep sense of respect for all members of this discussion. I have an emotional connection to the conflict through friends and family, and even then it's clearer than ever that this conflict is directly the result of neglectful leadership and a lack of communication. Both sides have been demonizing each other for as long as anyone can remember, and the refusal to look forward instead of tallying up blame and perpetuating paranoia is the cause of citizens dying.
I obviously normally tune in for your comedy but THANK YOU for having this dialoque. Needed. Much needed.
wow this conversation was so real and down to earth without judgement; I like this better than the news which is geared to make chaos or sway to one side; Kudos guys i subscribed want to listen more to your discussions.
Dialogue between both sides needs to happen for catharsis to occur, as well as liberation from the chains of the past. Glad to hear people discussing such an important topic openly and honestly, thanks for posting this.
I really appreciate you guys for being objective about this conflict and represent both sides.
I dont see any objectivity in their takes, how does the jews living with a fear of being eradicated has to do with them coming to palestine and forming militias and terrorising palestinians pushing them out of their lands to forme a country ??
Zionists are the agressor in this conflict not the opposite. Why are the Palestinians paying for other countries crimes against the jews ??
He is honest but not informed
Hamas does exist in the west bank they also have militants and groups in Lebanon seperated from Hizballah
JJ McCullough - The reason people care so much about the Israel-Palestine conflict is because to much of the world, this conflict has come to be understood primarily as a sort of metaphor for what people perceive to be the fundamental themes of power that define our contemporary world.
can u explain more, i kinda wanna know what ur anaylisis is, thanks
@@user-tf3jf2fi6dI see the conflict not just as a regional dispute, but as a symbolic representation of broader issues related to power... political power, military power, economic power, even social and cultural influence.
@@user-tf3jf2fi6d Israel basically represents the West and its ability to propagandize and turn almost anything abhorrent into something heroic. Israel was recently founded because of a genocide (holocaust) through genocide (Nakba - first genocide of the Palestinians). Yet Israel is celebrated as a symbol of "freedom" and "democracy" despite having apartheid, deep racism built into the foundation of the country, and actively committing ethnic genocide for decades. They have support all across the West thanks to religious fanatics and zionist power/money influence. See why almost every single Western politician is extremely supportive of Israel, even "progressives". Not a single other issue is seen or supported so bipartisan as this is, and that's not a coincidence.
That's saying NOTHING with many words.
It's pretty clear that you don't understand a damn thing you say. You just use buzz words.
Every now and then Andrew's perspective on current events are great!
Kudos to the team. This is deeper than I thought it would be.
Thanks guys for a honest discussion regarding the current state of affairs. You are showing the world how it is possible to have these conversations. Good job boys, proud of you guys.
He is honest but not informed
Hamas does exist in the west bank they also have militants and groups in Lebanon seperated from Hizballah
Good approach to the situation taking time and waiting to talk about the situation and not just talking about it instantly without more concrete facts and story’s ❤
It’s both sad and beautiful to see men with good hearts come together and believe that because they want the best for their brothers and sisters- that their leaders do to.
Schulz I respect this conversation so much! All of you gentlemen utmost respect
With the much-needed thoughtful, balanced, and empathetic position you have taken on both sides, in a future episode can you share what we can do to support?
Can Flagrant do a fundraiser that most effectively gets to the organizations on the ground?
As an Israeli I'm grateful for this conversation. The approach you guys took shows your values, that you put humanity high up and that's all we can wish for. Utmost respect for how mindful you were to address both sides, with humility about how much you do and do not know.
This war is a nightmare come true for our country. I can only imagine the pain on the Palestinian side. The reality is that both sides are engulfed in pain beyond comprehension right now, making a conversation extremely hard to be had. The time will come, it must, only way peace and progress can be achieved. Our lives are consumed with this conflict, and we want to see it end so badly. It'll take the brightest minds years to navigate through the complexities to achieve some sort of resolution that will favor Palestinians and Israelis.
Until then - I would ask anyone that's not directly related to the conflict, please please please TREAD LIGHTLY. Although you might not be part of the conflict, you definitely have on an impact on the conversation that broils and the hate it incites. The stances you take, the "facts" you share, might very well add flame to the fire. Respect our pain, be an ally and lead with empathy.
May we see peace in our lifetime
same to you brother@rhinnawi95
"War does not determine who is right only who is left"
Bertrand Russell
Thank you for you observation. This is the most balanced, honest and emphatic conversation on this topic I have seen.
Love this open and honest conversation, as someone not involved directly it's heartbreaking to see both sides so divided and frustrated. Hopefully this will lead to changes, the leaders of both sides have to commit to change one way or another.
There is a mistake. Of the 1400 lives, it is not clear what fraction was military and what fraction was civilian. on October 7 11 military bases were raided.
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@@rhetoric5173? What 1400 lives are you talking about? I don't care about numbers, fact of the matter is that a war is beginning to unravel. A war that has gone on for the past 75 years but has never seen this level of brutality until now. It's just sad, no matter what side you support.
This is the most thoughtful empathetic discussion I have seen regarding this situation so far.
These are the conversations we need to have. I believe that comedians are the answer.
How is THIS the most thoughtful and compassionate conversation I have heard about this conflict to date? Thank you, gentlemen, for asking the right questions. As a veteran, I have seen firsthand the monumental difference a change of perspective can make. As Americans, it is unfortunate that so few of us ever leave our own borders. We are left at the mercy of other people for everything we understand about our world. That is its own type of imprisonment.
It’s sad because the fear that both side feels turns into hate. Once that hate is weaponized it turns into violence.
Well Israel is seek refuge in 1948 ,so is pure evil movement not hate
First time I've listened to people talk about the Palestine-Israeli conflict without feeling biased towards one faction.
It's interesting how the soundest of argument is coming from podcasters and not the people in places of power.
Flagrant is doing some wonderful job.
thank you for this conversation. will share with my Arab family and friends
The realest level headed conversation i have heard on this whole situation so far.
Wow, that was the most nuanced, balanced and mature conversation I've ever heard about the conflict. Bravo, Flagrant. 👏👏👏
Damn, that’s the most mature take on politics I’ve ever seen from this channel. Nice job.
So I’m an Italian Jew that lives in Philadelphia. I do not have a lot of money. I am currently on welfare so all this Jewish money doesn’t exist for me. And the problem is that everybody thinks that Jewish people are rich and oppressive, but I’m poor and oppressed and I have to hear about this BS when I used to go to work from my coworkers who were anti-Semitic, and then all my black friends are trying to tell me I’m white, but they hate Jews on my friends tell me I’m not white I’m Jewish so also being Italian kinda adds to that so I’ve always been unique and different and I’ve always experienced antisemitism growing up and it hasn’t gone away and it’s terrible right now on the Internet, but I’m different than most Jewish people, because I will punch you in the mouth. I’m one of those Jews, who like to fight maybe that’s the Italian in me lol
Thank you so much for this conversation guys!!❤❤❤❤
Great take, guys! It's a highly complex situation; I appreciate your honesty in acknowledging that you maybe don't know enough but have made some observations and that it's a terrible tragedy all around.
If they don't know enough.. they should just shut their face.
This is their PR team saying.. OK guys.. you have to make a neutral statement so you don't piss off your Jewish and Muslim fans.
Instead.. they opened up their stupid mouths and compared Americans who support the troops to Palestinians who support Hamas.. a terrorist organization who has in their charter, the complete deletion of all Jews.
It’s not.
But its not. It's simple land theft by Europeans.
What's complex about apartheid and genocide ye dumb cvnt?
It isn’t that complicated tho..
There’s a clear oppressor/colonizer engaging in a decades long apartheid
It is sad and to a certain degree frustrating when I see comedians having a more mature and in debt discussion then the god damn politicians....(but at least I am happy to see people thinking objectively about it, the shit shoveled by mainstream media was scary)
This is the best conversation I’ve heard on the matter. Period.
This was a great and balanced conversation. I truly enjoyed this commentary. In my opinion…it starts with empathy. Plain and simple. One has to be able to understand the plight and feelings of others.
Unfortunately- both sides are to angry to consider it.
It's amazing that this show can be good when they are not fake laughing and yelling over the top of each other.
Thank you this is exactly how I feel about it and this is such a great conversation, I am a black jew from east London, my mother is half jamaican and my grandmother is a 2nd generation polish jew from East London and married my jamaican grandfather in the 70s and my nan mother and father fled Poland during holocaust in 2nd world war and came to east London so the stories I would hear on both sides as my nans stories of antisemitism and my grandfather rasicism because he was part of the windrush generation, so I do feel Isolated not only as a black man but as a jew aswell and it's nice to hear your thoughts out loud. Now I am having interesting conversations with both my family and pro Palestinian friends of Muslim background. Let's have peace and love and once again thank you.
One party is called terrorist for doing less than what the other party is doing. One party is founded by the biggest nations economically. One party has been without water, electricity and gas. They’re not the same.
Not denying that Israel has killed civilians in Palestine. But have they ever intentionally targeted over a thousand and raped, kidnapped, slaughtered only civilians with no military target in mind? Israel doesn't want to kill civilians like Hamas, but yes civilians become collateral damage, especially when Hamas hides behind them (well documented).
This most mature conversation about the conflict and its was crazy 😅
One of the best discussions I have seen on this conflict in recent times, From an American point of view.. Thank you for this
A brave attempt at seeing and acknowledging both sides of the coin mate! Much more enlightened and deeper than the common narrative, much respect for that.
And that thing about that voice, that whisper Jew's hear from that past, that worst nightmare you refused to accept still exists or a possibility, pretty spot on!
Thank you, Andrew for quoting what Bassem Youssef said. Peace for everyone.
My friend is so afraid of calling out zionism he is calling hamas terrorist after every sentence
Thank you, thank you, thank you! You were able to speak my mind in a way I could never do it!
Awesome episode. It's nice to see someone articulate the situation in a relatively non-biased way.
He is honest but not informed
Hamas does exist in the west bank they also have militants and groups in Lebanon seperated from Hizballah
Mr Schulz lot of respect for you and your team. I thought you were just edgy comedian but you proved me wrong . I almost cried after watching your views on this complicated and super tragic events . Looser are innocent kids and people😥
the right to have a land doesn't give you the right to take someone else's land
As a veteran from Israeli Special Forces, we appreciate you guys speaking up on the matter!
Let there be peace and resolution in the middle east.
Dream on
Religious texts say there will be chaos in the middle East until one side wins
So no chance for peace ✌️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
@@kartheeshk5519 Right on brother
@@kartheeshk5519 well lucky for us, religious texts don't mean shit
@@egelNorg Oh but religious text also says that the whole world will be converted to one religion
So there are are people hell bent to achieve that at any cost
So no matter if you live in Switzerland, newzealand,Africa or Korea these religious nut cases will create trouble and chaos in the name of their bullshit religion ☯️☯️☯️
@@egelNorg fool
You guys give me hope for the future of men on the planet and hope for the world! You speak so calmly, heartfelt, nuanced, informed, rational, emotional and truthfully from your heart and with others in mind! Im gonna put a #protectthematallcosts on y’all! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I can't understand how there are people who are able to sit and talk like experts on a subject they have no idea about. And show it to hundreds of thousands of viewers.
But I guess that's what happens when all the information you get is from al jazeera.
I think they did a 100% amazing job on the emotional aspect for Jews and Palestinians.
But yes, they missed some important things in the substantive discussion and Israelis provide counterfactuals to each of those points:
This is the most mature video I've seen on this topic
Kudos to Andrew and the team. Well said in a time when we have such polarization. I am Palestinian and I want peace for my family and friends living under occupation. I do not want to see more children murdered for no reason but being Palestinian. I want the nightmare to end. Both sides need to stop and push for real peace.
Common Schulz capital W. You did this after all the George Floyd stuff. You speak for the average person who doesn't have a voice. It's just extremes on both sides who dominate the conversation. So refreshing, thank you. Not expected from a comedy podcast.
Best conversation that I have ever had on this subject.
Speaking about both sides and how they are treated is an important step forward
You guys are so balanced - more than many of stupid mainstream media…
Andrew Shultz best video. Thank You for looking at things from this wide of a view...and on both sides. Bless brother! 💜💜💜
Geez, not what I expected from a conversation between comedians. I've lived in Palestine/Israel, Egypt, and Jordan. I really appreciate this kind of conversation. Please keep listening and pushing others to stop all their justifications of evil across the board.
Initially I thought you would be biased but thank you for being honest and showing integrity brother
I’m glad it’s a conversation about. No choosing sides. Seeing the facts and pain on each side.
Cowards.. they just don't want to lose viewers / fans by standing for what they believe in.
@@RobertXPhotography your missing the point dummy.
@@RobertXPhotography correct. Anyone who says you can't choose sides on the issue of genocidal killing isn't to be trusted
Not choosing a side, is choosing pro Genocide. This isn’t about Hamas this is about the disgusting humanitarian crisis and apartheid state that’s been going on for 20 years or so
Genocide.. yes.. like the thousands of years Muslims have killed or removed completely Jewish people from all of the Muslim countries. The fact that it's in their charter to wipe out all Jews... yes.. genocide in deed. Hamas is just using this land issue as an excuse. @@Goyaboyayoga
Bro people haven’t been able to vote for 17 years in Gaza
Yes because of Hamas
@@SenorJoeBiden agreed dummy so the point being made that "they all support hamas because they voted for them " is null and void and you just further proved it dummy.
@@SenorJoeBiden which means the palestinian people didnt choose hamas, meaning conflating the two makes you an idiot
Really proud of the Flagrant crew for this conversation.
I get so furious when comedians are more logical than politicians.
Thank you for the balanced approach. While neither the oppression or terrorism is justified - I think it’s important to mention how many peace resolutions were offered by one side and rejected by the other without ever offering anything other than destruction. That doesnt mean it shouldn’t be offered again but who knows
While true that resolutions were rejected, I doubt Palestinians at the time could have imagined they’d be in a position to be completely at the mercy of the terms written by Israel, while being governed by corrupt ineffectual leaders or extremists who only view you as collateral damage and good suffering optics for the cameras. The current government of Israel is full of far right hardliners that seem more than willing to oblige Hamas in sacrificing the civilian population “for the cause“. Also, Netanyahu purposely derailed peace negotiations in the 90’s and whipped people into a frenzy which led to the assassination of the then Prime Minister of Israel Yitzhak Rabin. The whole situation is awful while regular Palestinian and Israeli civilians pay the price.
Those peace resolutions weren't offered in good faith though if you look at them objectively.
@@jazzoj5The Camp David accord in 2000 was. It’s not perfect, but there at least wouldn’t be military occupation and would be independent Palestinian state.
Perception v perspective. Never heard of you before but good job.
refreshing talk from one of my favorite comedians- please keep on reminding people that Palestinians have been living October 7th everyday for the past 70 years.
Incredible conversation. Thank you so much for sharing.