"Purple Pete" gets it together. C-15 with Aftermarket Cylinder head.
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2023
- In this video we are putting Purple Pete back together with an aftermarket head and 1 new cylinder pack. AdeptApe@yahoo.com on PayPal for donations.
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Thanks for watching. Really wanted to get it running in this video, but unfortunately the head showed up too late in the week to get it running before the weekend. Next video should be the conclusion and the beginning of the next series. Amazon Affiliate Links to some recommended tools helps support the channel:
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Got any tips on obs 7.3 maintenance?
Thank you ape! I want to be talented and have the same knowledge as you sir!
Hello sir. My name is Son, I am Vietnamese. I need to buy used CATERPILLAR (c9, c12, c13, c15, c18, c32) injectors.
If you know of a place that sells them, please give me the address. thank you very much
I will say your attention to detail is why cat can produce a million mile engine .great appreciation for Cat an the Cat mechanic's .
I agree on your reply.
I ran across something interesting through. A machinist rebuilt a tractor engine (old alis) anyway I guess you need to factor in a little slop.
Very interesting take on things.
I’m not a mechanic but run and maintain old iron that I make a living with. Hats off to cat and some of the great products.
Oh man what a tease. even after 40 years of wrenching on trucks there is still a thrill when bringing an engine to life. Kinda like dr Frankenstein. It’s alive
I have that same feeling every time I work on something. I’m still wet behind the wrenches but work is fun and learning the books is even more fun.
I have been an auto tech for 20 years and I was interested in seeing what the large diesel repair was like. Super detailed video. U make awesome videos!
Really appreciate your videos, very helpful and informative. Especially the information about lubeing the liner orings. I’ve had problems with one engine I rebuilt of y Own that i split an oring in installation of sleeve. Now I understand why. Plus using antisease under bolt heads. Never been doing that but will now. I again thank you for all the info you give us. Please keep the channel going.Semper fi
Thanks for watching and glad you learned some stuff.
Surely for your intro sound you could have a cat engine cranking and firing up! Another great video Josh 👍
That is a good idea Matt, was trying to think what to put there and didn't even think of that one!
AWESOME!
Love the crow's foot torque wrench and the screwdriver toque wrench.
I agree with the owner of the Purple Pete: no sense paying a pile of cash only to put a cracked cylinder-head in.
It looks like Purple Pete is coming along nicely. Keep the good stuff coming.
Josh your videos are awesome not surprising though because you are a great tech also I watch you because your old school caring in how you do repairs
I hope it is running well and he can get working to make money. Nice job with attention to details and explaining things you are doing. Stay safe and healthy.
Forget to say. Always check the cam bearings. Got a Cat reman once and a cam bearing was not clocked right. I didn't notice and toasted the cam on startup. Fought with the parts department for awhile before they made good on it.
This looks much better than the after market castings I see at trucking shows. However, only time will tell if it is resistant to problems.
Both my Acert engines run great because of your video productions. Teach us Mr. Master Mechanic.
Format Perfected...
That's exactly what I use for installing liners lol love tire soap in a squirt bottle l
Mechanic I would do my first few overhauls ,I told him we need a cylinder press and he laughed at me n said gtfo he's like we need a 4by 4 ..n he rammed all 6 cylinders in withing a minute . He works on all makes class 8 trucks . Had 2 of my own semi trucks done by him n they running good. Just my 2 cents
I really love your videos,thank you...
My guess on the brand of the head is diesel cast, as far as I know they are the only ones who include the purple straps. Got about 20 of them around the shop
Hopefully you mean 20 of the straps and not the heads.
I've gotten some heads from highway and heavy parts, and they came with purple straps, which are super handy to keep around.
@@cherokeelittle4582 hhp heads are diesel cast heads
Ready to see it run
Thanks for sharing
Thanks 🙏
Badass videos thanks for sharing bud
Joshua, look up your block salvage repair guide. You'll find that the water director ports in the block have been repaired with inserts. In your video you can see the line of sealant used out below them in the galley. Aparently the Reman facility failed to deck the block after they were installed.
I had one apart a year ago that had deck inserts installed wrong, and they settled and caused the liners to drop, blowing head gasket.
Thanks enjoy the diagnosis, but enjoy the repair more. Regards Allan
Thanks Allen.
Just when you think your getting ahead in life, things like this happen.
That thick blue cosmoline really is a pain in the butt. Big plus side in using aftermarket heads. I have been given CAT reman heads before which only had oil on them instead of that thick blue stuff
Awesome!
I always loctite my rod bearings too !
Looks like an American Premium Castings head. My buddy Rob owns them. Actually better specs than factory if you're chasing horsepower.
Well it seemed like a decent head, time will tell.
Hi can you please ask him how much it would be for one for 3406e ? 🙏🏻
Looking for the next video of Purple Pete!!
Looks like a dieselcast head out of Portland
People have been building and rebuilding engines for hundreds of years,I don't see what is so great about this. Is it because RUclips shows it? It all seems very funny and trivial to me.
The small torque wrench used on the injector solenoid nuts almost looks like a Wheeler torque wrench used for gun assembly.
I was always told to put the tab side of the bearing to the cam side of the engine
To the oil jets on a C15
Tire soap make good hand cleaner too in emergencies .
Never tried that, but that would make sense.
41st … been waiting all week 👊🏻💪🏻
man, that driver is now sitting idle for a 3rd week because the previous shop messed up.
5:00 oh okay, so you can just coat it, you don’t actually have to get all around the seals on both sides. Good to know.
My c15 was overhauled by cat in Pocatello it same problem 4 years ago in August
Like #245. Umm, is that a fracture-split connecting rod cap? If that's a yes, im amazed at that process to make the cap mating. edited... oh, after seeing that cap, it doesnt look like an F-S rod cap
Thanks for the knowledge that you provide. Question ❓ What's the difference between a 3406 cat generator fuel pump and a 3406 cat highway engine fuel pump? Thank you again for the time to answer the question.
Great videos! Kind of looks like Donut Operator. 🙂
Certain new x15's are experiencing snapped crank shafts due to a manufacture defect not super common but this is a known problem.
One of ours just went in with less than 50k on it.
Looks good, reused head bolts and spacer plate or new ones? The Cat reman head I got, had no plugs in head. All o-ring boss and very little junk on it.
I had C12 with piston skirt come apart. Most of liner, piston and part of block in oil pan what a mess. C9 where rod damn near cut block in 1/2. Broke oil pan, oil pan rails, oil cooler off, block on both side almost to block deck and power steering pump knocked off
Excellent mechanican once again sir! What does a job like this run cost wise total out the door approximately??
Just curious as only diesel I own is a 6.7 power stroke so quite smaller lol
I prefer to use the 2P-8260 Cylinder Liner Installer Group Tool, because I can feel the seals compressing as I push down on the tool, and you can feel if they are not going in correctly by feel, after using it to install liner with long term using it! Your way works, but I like the feel!
And quicker
Do you leave hold down bolts on liners while waiting for the head. I was taught to even if you just going to lunch.
Great Chanel.
I have a 6NZ in need of some work.
Totally unrelated. I have a cat c 15 acert. Fuel restriction gauge is almost in red. I’ve changed fuel lines filters and check valve
I wonder if the shims where put upside down and that's why the it tore up the gasket and had liner protrusion
when you installed the liner kits , wouldnt you liner hold down bolts from liiner protusion kit to keep liners held down? so they dont move back up, so liner filler bands seal correctly while you waited for the head?
I have to say.Everytime that goat or watever it is makes that noise it dos make me laugh.
Use veggie oil - that one is not time sensitive.
Is there any warranty with the use of a aftermarket head? I know sometimes you have to use what's available to get it going.
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Great videos. I have to ask how a short block was so "off"? Thanks
About how many hours does it take from start to finish to do a job like this, once the problem has been found?
Looks like a diesel cast head.
That must have been the rear-engined CAT.
I've tried 2 of those aftermarket heads. They claim better iron, and bigger water passes. IMHO they crack easier than a Cat head. Or maybe I got 2 bad ones. I'm back to Cat. But not reman, new only.
Only way to go
Hopefully this one runs great.
@@AdeptApe I believe it will be fine under 650hp. Especially with a big hood radiator.
The guys at my old truck shop with Wagner Cat would use that snap on hand cleaner for some part of rebuilding engines. Do you know what part they may have used that on?
Take the weekend off
I’d like to know what exactly did you brush onto the bearings? What Schaeffer and CAT oil? I remember from a older video you said you use Lucas Oil Stabilizer. Did you have damages from using that?
We do it right because we do it twice
You don't like the blue grease Cat puts on their heads? It's like Never seize. One dab can spread 600 square feet and get everywhere.
I like putting the exhaust on after also. But some chassis it's a lot easier on the head first.
That's long term rust preventative, and required because all of the inventory comes from one warehouse. That inventory can service an order across the street, or across the world, so it has to survive a trip over the ocean (and potentially 12+ months on a storage rack).
It sucks, you really need a wash bay and STEAMING HOT WATER to get the crap off.
I'm a dealer for APC cylinder heads and used over 60 of them myself and can tell you they are hands down better quality than Caterpillar heads are nowadays. Plus they aren't covered in blue shit. On a side note, cylinder kits give me anxiety, every engine I build, including these 3400's, gets ring gap measurements and always need adjustments. Ever seen a low hour failure on a fresh overhaul??? Ring gap. General rule of thumb, .004" per 1" of cylinder bore
My local Catl dealer would never allow an after market part in their shop.
Although it sounds like they had no other choice I wouldn't dare use any aftermarket parts especially the head and rotating assembly I would have just waited for the right one to come in
We are pretty flexible, try to make the customer happy if that is their choice.
9:33 Lol that plug is famous for being forgotten to be put on. Oil spews out on start up😂. BTW would it be better if you did liner projection without the bands on? Then once you got your readings you install them with the bands? Just curious cause your way looks straight forward and is great.
I have a quick question did caterpillar warranty the short block or at least the parts
Is there a particular reason the updated bolts for the Jake housings weren’t installed? I know most of the Australian Engine’s have the updated bolts in them and am curious if there was a reason you didn’t update this one whilst it was apart.
Hi Joshua
I have a cat 3406e I’m getting oil in coolant replaced oil cooler but still the same truck runs good no miss in engine
Does that mean rebuild thanks in advance.
On an engine like this, where it’s a newer Genuine Cat short block, but has a failure like this where it needs the counterbores cut to correct liner protrusion, is there any recourse or warranty for the customer?
are those earplug earbuds you have? been thinking of maybe getting a set for work
What happens to the engine if its crank case breather housing is installed without its element.
What brand is the torque screwdriver and 3/4 torque wrench you used?
Wow a fresh over haul being redone dose that happen a lot?
Wasn't a fresh overhaul..more like half ass so yea, it had to be done and it happenens all the time.
American premium casting is who head it is they are located in Vancouver wa.
4:01 is is petroleum jelly a good idea
If its a Chinese casting, best redo the cups. First one I used cups leaked in first month, no Loctite sealant/retainer on the bottom and low quality black o- rings used from China.
Just super curious, what’s a job like this cost? I can only imagine…lol
In canada it would be about 45 to 50 K. Those 55 hr standby shop rate would be hella more.
Shit. Im sure it's a small fortune. Freightliner labor rates are about 180 an hour and this job probably took like 500,000 hours. Lol. More than i have I'm sure.
In frames used to be around 20k depending on what all you decide to do. The sky is the limit for part replacement. However everything cost most these days so probably closer to 30k if I had to guess. Parts are expensive and so is labor. Also cost can vary depending where you take it obviously.
He said purple Pete I thought of purple bastard some trucks are
Why not use BXS,MXS,NXS cyl head?
How much does each liner & piston with rod weigh
Do u f do in frame on Cummins isx
Josh, i am curious why you would not go for the higher limit of the factory spec on the liner protrusion? We all know factory spec is BS, and they keep it at the minimum necessary.
Do you mean for torquing the liner protrusion bolts down or do you mean to keep the liner protrusion closer to .006"? I like to have them at .004-.005" as running it over .006" could potentially crack a liner flange depending how much over you are. .0035-.006" is a pretty tight window to achieve so I'm happy with factory specs.
@Adept Ape i meant keeping it closer to .006 . You responded with a articulate answer. Thank you, i was just curious. Love the videos
That was a good question. I have 3406e and C16 and had been wondering same thing. I had always thought if mine ever needed head work I would shoot for six thou maybe 7. Evidently More isn’t always better because cracking the flange makes since.
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From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 19:42pm Good Evening
What brand is that lift bracket you are using on your cylinder head?? Part number?
Its a CAT lifting bracket cant rember the part number
Do this gentleman work in Pocatello Idaho?
What's the cost of that whole job?
Hi Josh, Jamie from Australia, do you know the manufacturers name of the head, or can anyone else help with that ?
Appreciate your videos, they are very good, and thanks for your help and anyone else they may know the name of the manufacturer of those aftermarket heads.
Thanks, regards,
Jamie.
Cat in Melbourne have heads just a part number change
APC Cylinder Heads on of the best for aftermarket
Thanks guys, very much appreciated indeed 🤝
Do any 3408 cat's come to the shop
CAT doesn't allow you to paint an aftermarket head CAT yellow? Maybe purple? 🤣🤣
I nearly always paint the head after I install, this one will be getting painted as well.
@@AdeptApe I figured as much, just wanted to yank your chain horse a little. 😂😂
Easiest way to get cosmoline off is Goo Gone grill cleaner. Nice work as always! Are you all hiring by chance?
You don't paint the head
I hate to think what a brand name 3/4” drive torque wrench costs. 😬😬😬
Does CAT warranty after market parts like that head?
Or is that separate warranty? And does CAT cover labor?
The customer sourced the cylinder head themselves, and there is no warranty from Cat on it. The head may have an aftermarket warranty though.
Hello Josh, is it possible to turn on captions for your videos?
I am a deaf truck driver that works on engines and servicing trucks.
Thank you. Would help me to understand your videos.
I watch from the mobile website and the auto captions work great.
You can turn on captions. It's that little cc button on the top right of the video. At least on my phone. They're auto- generated so sometimes they're a little off but they're usually pretty close.
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That’s what I press. The little cc button. But it’s faded which I’m thinking the person that made the video hasn’t turned it on maybe. I’m not sure how that works.
I use that cc button all the time. For a lot of videos that I’ve watched it does work well.
I think it’s been improving a lot over time.
I don't have them turned off, not sure if there is a delay. You can view transcript for some reason, which puts everything in a text format. Sorry about that. I'll try to do some research on it for the next video.
@@AdeptApe ok, makes sense. I’m sure it’ll fix itself 😉 maybe RUclips had a misfire.
Looking forward to watching more videos from you!
That driver mustve been down for 2 weeks in $30,000 for a rebuild and another $2500 for hotel. Dont see how theyll survive out there with these crappy rates.
If you’re doing what everyone else is doing, you will get what everyone else gets.
It is a tri axle so at least it is specialized freight.
Rates are always low in the start of the year. Everyone seems to somehow forget that.
He not replacing all the liners