Update! 2024 Wired Freedom
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2023
- This is an update video with new information that I have learned since the last video on the 2024 Wired Freedom.
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If anyone is worried about customer service, my controller was malfunctioning and they sent me a new one for free after they helped me troubleshoot it. Very good customer service!
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate you sharing your experience!
Thank you for the caution of the clearance of the front sprocket. I would have probably wrecked it. I have a tendency to be , using my wife' explanation, a lunatic when on trails. I just today purchased the Wired Freedom. It is supposed to ship to me about mid May. This is my first E-bike. Did serious investigation of E-bikes for a couple of months before deciding. I ordered the Black color, like yours. I am 71, the picture shown is me a lot younger, just never got around to changing it. The joy pedaling my mountain bike is not as fun as it used to be, it getting to be too much like work. Lol. I believe this will bring back the enjoyment of bicycling again as when I was younger.
Thats so awesome! You're gonna love it!
Mine should be delivered middle of June. Excited, I’m 72.
Thanks for the excellent video. Sound came through just fine, no problem hearing you. Special thank you for the info on the motor temp readout, first time I saw that mentioned in any video.
I have the orange color Wired Freedom on order, late January estimated delivery. I'm 6'4" tall, so this bike should fit me nicely.
You are very welcome! That orange looks great and was my second choice for sure! You'll love the size, being taller like me. Have a great day!
Best color 👌
One of the best most comprehensive videos I’ve seen so far keep up the good work. Thank you very much.
Thank you so much, I appreciate it!
great vid, thank you🙂
You are very welcome!!
Nice content… I will be changing out the BMX bar to a lower MTB when mine is delivered. It’s a heavy bike but with MTB bars you could hop some additional clearance for that chain ring. It may also be worth getting a bash guard if doing a lot of off road.
Thank you! I agree, a bash guard would be great if going off-road a lot.
Great info and video! Really makes me want one!
Thank you! It's a blast!! If you decide to get one, I have a link in the description box!
I appreciate the clearance issue warning
You are very welcome!
Nice video, great info. I have a spreadsheet for you with all your data, and more.
Awesome!
Just ordered mine, appreciate the info and look forward to learning the settings and getting it optimized
Awesome!!
How are you liking your Wired Freedom?
@@davidgraham2673 it’s pretty fantastic! Working on my skills in my neighborhood which is pretty rough dirt roads and short trails. Will head out to the big trails soon
@@steveg219 , Mine is my first ebike.
It takes some getting used to, and settling on which settings to keep it on.
I'm thrilled with mine.
Glad to hear you're happy as well.
@@davidgraham2673 it does take some time to get used to, but it’s important to spend that time making all of your moves become second nature. This makes it more fun and a lot safer.
Thank u very much for putting this out for us all 😊
You are very welcome!
Folsom. I’m in Tahoe but come down to Sacramento a lot. That looks like a cool place to ride. Don’t have one of these bikes yet but plan on getting one within a few days
It's a blast!
Great video...good intel....yes your audio was good I could hear the bikes performance...are those Chow Yang tires? Also does it ship with C5 settings at 5 so I have to go in and change it myself? Thanks for the Info on bike settings 👍🏽 👍🏽
Thank you! Yes, these are the ChaoYang tires, they seem to be great so far, no issues. I think the bike is shipped with the C5 setting at 4.
I agree with your assessment that the Wired Freedom isn't the best at any particular metric, or function, but it hits the sweet spot at being very capable of handling a wide array of challenges.
I love mine. I didn't expect it to be so beautiful, and the blue just pops.
I was concerned that the bike wouldn't be large enough; that I would look like an adult on a kids bike.
Turns out, it's a huge bike, and I love the size. Loads of compliments, and questions come my way from people blown away by this ebike.
It is an amazing bike and relatively cheap for what it can do! I am a bigger rider at 6'3" and 225lbs so I also appreciate it being a bigger bike!
Great reviews and info. I've got the Freedom on order for end of June but would appreciate your thoughts on the Freesky Warrior dual 1000w motors. This is my first ebike and wonder if AWD would be more fun for on & off road biking?
Personally I don't like having two motors as it adds weight to the bike and front wheel, not as optimal for offroad unless it's steep hill climbs or onroad.
Just found your channel. Want something to ride trails, bike paths, beach, etc. wonder how it would do in our Alabama hills and mountains? Looking to buy after Christmas. Trying to get back into it. What’s the distance, etc. Good audio and review. Best yet. Thanks!😎💥🚴Do they make a guard for the chain ring?
Thank you! I think it would be great for the hills and mountains. I actually just made a range test video, coming out this Saturday! I'm not sure if they make a chain guard, but if you can find one for a 56tooth sprocket, it should fit. Stay tuned!
Dope video dude glad we’re wired bros hahaha your c5 needs to be reset tho since I reached out to them. It’s not the same set up as citizen cycles video on the old model.
Wired Bros for sure!! Yes, C5 should be set to 6, not 16! Thank you for watching, I appreciate the comment too!
Awesome video, I am thinking of replacing my home-built e-bike with the Wired Freedom as well. My current bike is a hard tail so it might help my back which has been getting trashed. I happen to live in Folsom as well. Were you on the granite bay side of the lake? Those trails looked fun. I usually ride the regular paved trails through Folsom. Be safe and this is such an awesome area for riding.
Thank you, I sure was! That's awesome that you also live here! If you decide to pull the trigger and buy a Wored Freedom, I'd really appreciate it if you use the link in the description box of this video! It really helps out this channel. See you around sometime! Stop me and say hi.
I’ve had my Wire Freedom for just over a week - I love it! This bike is a beast!
I ride up street hills ( with peddle assist) hitting speeds of 20-25
Miles an hour … whatever people say about it is true. Glad I bought it
I love to hear that others are enjoying it as much as I am! It really is an amazing bike for the price...the quality and components are top notch for the price point, and having 60volts is epic. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Love it!
The Wired Freedom bikes have a suspension linkage design defect. People are not aware of it. There is a you tube video that shows what it is. Look it up.
Glad I came across your video. How would that bike work for 6’3” man?
Thanks for watching! I'm 6'3" and 225lbs and it fits perfectly!
Thank you so much for your content. I appreciate all the info. Hopefully I will be ordering the Wired Freedom soon. Wish we could ride together.
Send me an email when you get it and we can ride! If you do decide to buy one, I'd really appreciate it if you use the link in the description box, it really helps this channel! Have a great evening!
@@leetjohnson will do! Though I’m not sure we could ride together, I live in Wisconsin.
@sleepinglysithia lol, well maybe if you visit California one day!
Thanks for the tips! What is the link for that GPS device you have? Thank you.
You're welcome! Here is the link....amzn.to/3uwxIFx
I wish I had trails like that around my house
Where do you live?
2 day ago I got this bike Im only used it on streets I’m little afraid to ride it on bike trail I live Arlington county next to Washington DC and I don’t wan at to be yell out I’m no a confrontation person ,I know the law I can ride the 3class bike around here 750watt but this bike is2000 watt or so.and there’s a lot traffic bikes around here,are you ever be yell out for the bike on bike trail.thank you for you excellent reviews I’m very happy with this beasts(wire freedom) good day!
I never have any issues. Just be sure to slow down around people and especially people with dogs on leashes...you never know how the dog will react and might pull the leash across your path. Have fun, be safe!
@@leetjohnson… agree, I’ve not had a problem. I slow to only slightly faster than a walker to pass them and warn them before you do. Be aware of people disconnected from your overtake because of headphone use. Sometimes I sense dissatisfaction but I haven’t had anyone shout at me. Give ‘em a hello. We are all ambassadors.
Do you think you could make a video discussing how the suspension works on the bike or how to make adjustments to the suspension, how it feels riding at different suspension settings. Also what’s the difference in gear shifting vs PAS?
Thanks for the great videos on the wired freedom I’m looking forward to receiving mine in January
I will make a video addressing this, thank you for the idea! The main difference in the gears to the pas is the Pedal assist levels increase or reduce motor power and top speed while changing the gearing allows you to increase the torque of your pedaling and lower top speed or increase top speed and decrease torque. Said differently, the gearing is much like that of a car gears, where as the pas is like having 5 different motors (small to large) each allowing more power (and thus top speed) than the next. You really don't ever need to come out of shortest gear (small gear for top speed and low torque) as the motor can do all of the work, unless you need to go up a big hill, with terrain that requires you to slow down (offroad). For riding on paved roads, you really don't ever need to change the gears at all!
@@leetjohnson thank you that made a lot of sense!
Let me know if there is anything before the P1 please thanks have fun man
Thank you!
Your video has been very informative, I like the breakdown on the screen options.
Do you know if there is any available information on the life of the battery before replacement is required? $800 for a new battery makes you hope it lasts a long time.
Thank you! I don't think there is much info out yet about the battery life over time, but the cells are Samsung, so they should hold up well.
c5 is for total power output. 0,1,2 are full power, but slower start. 4 is going to cap at 750w. 10 caps at 2kw, with sliding scale between. For me personally, I run at 2 or 10, for full power, and either a slower ramp or full lift-your-tire power.
Awesome, thanks for the info!
Is the battery a Dorado Plus Long style? If so that matches what I have on my Magnum Peak T5 and would be a bonus if I got one of these. They offset size is only the bigger battery, I have a 17.5 Ah battery and it's not offset.
It does look very similar, however, this is a 60v system, not 48v. That may account for the offset on the Wired Freedom battery (higher voltage).
Splendid detail, black one on order 👍. Am thinking of adding a Suntour SP12 NCX Suspension post but unsure if the post diameter is 31.6mm or...? Any idea?
I just measured the outer edge to outer edge of the seat post and it came out to 3.1cm...so yep, I would say 31cm, which is most likely 31.6mm! Hope this helps!
Thank you!
@@DieterF You're very welcome!
Would switching out the bmx bars to mountain bike bars be a better option? I like the aggressive style of mountain bike bars and the bmx bars seem to be to upright.
Sure, if that's what you prefer. I usually do some trail riding and a lot of road riding, so the bmx style higher bars are more comfortable for me personally.
can you change the wheel size to 27 or 29 to see mph accuracy and have you putt a measurement other length of the tires?
I have tried other tire soze measurements, but none of them were as accurate.
Yeah no wind sound it sounds good I can hear you fine
Thank you!
I always leave one line I don't let it go all the way down to the end of the battery, and like he says you don't have to fill it, battery will last longer instead of 2 years you might get 3 out of it use your pedals too.
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Thanks for the vid! Do you think they will provide a bigger battery in the future since there is more room?
You're welcome! Good question....I'm not sure, but would be an excellent option!
You've settled my mind on buying this bike.. I purchased a month ago but of course I have to wait to mod January and I cannot stop comparing it to other bikes to see if I made the right choice lol. You did a phenomenal job explaining all the bikes features. The only thing that makes me question my decision to purchase now is the Billy Goat V2, have you seen that bike and it's specs? I think the reliability will be close but not as good but it still is a faster bike at the same price point.
@Brandon-nw8wo Awesome! I'm glad you liked the videos! I haven't heard of the BillyGoat V2, I'll have to check it out.
Here's the specs, the company is Goat Bikes.
2,000W constant motor (roughly 2,600W Peak)
110nm of torque
60V 20AH Battery
Range of 50 Miles (Pedal Assist Mode) or 28 Miles (All Electric Mode)
Max speed of between 45-50MPH (dependent on rider weight and terrain)
50A Controller
Full Twist Throttle
2 anti-theft locks (throttle and rear wheel)
Shimano 7 speed Gears for Pedal version
New display with phone app and option for Navigation
Integrated spoke wheel rim (much more durable that traditional spokes)
Includes side mirrors
Bike weighs 103lbs
Max rider weight of 450lbs
Aluminum alloy frame
Dual adjustable suspension
4-piston hydraulic disk brakes
INNOVA 20x4.5 inch all terrain tires
Upgraded LED headlight with high beam and low beam functions
Has turning signals
Has horn
Larger more comfortable seat, 33" from the ground
@Brandon-nw8wo Wow! Those are some impressive stats! The big thing that stuck out to me was all that on a 20" wheel. 450lbs max rider weight is really impressive along with the 45 to 50mph top speed!
lol. You may want to scratch off the Wired logo from the bike since the bike is getting well known for going over the legal ebike speed limit.
I’m a DIY’r and my ride looks like a normal bike(for the most part). Never have an issue with folks looking at my bike twice and I can go 50mph+ with a mid drive.
First time watcher! Good explanation on your videos👍
Not a bad idea!!! Thanks for watching!
Are the wired logos stickers or painted on?
@ranwen2133 I can't tell...but it does appear to be raised lettering, so it theoretically could be scraped off, but I'm not planning to do so.
Again Excellent review!
Thank you so much!!
On your settings vidio you said it didnt have a motor temp gauge and now it does?? Im condused
The 2023 doesn't but the 2024 does!
E bikes will force all bicycle riders over 10 years old off the sidewalks. great review, when i read comments on other shows they mention YOUR bike rather than the subject of that show. I’m going to get one .
Thank you!
C5 huh, I don't know that's good but I did see another video where they said it was on the first setting before the P1 will start, and they said the first setting should be on 18 I don't know you have one but there's two different stories now I guess I have to wait and find out myself
Are you talking about the battery configuration setting? 16 is the setting for the older model 2023. For the 2024 model, you want to set p5 to 6. C5 is the power setting from 0 to 10 regarding power. All of this is covered in the video, I even have a full 1 page photo shot that I wrote each setting out by hand. Hope this helps, let me know if you still have any questions.
What would be the best/safest way to drain the battery when your bike is not in use? Thanks Dave.
Great question. Considering the size of the battery, the only real way is to run it down during your ride and not charge it back up afterwards, unless it is below 30 or 40%. I suppose if you charged up for a ride and then couldn't use the battery for some reason, you could use the USB charge port on the battery to charge up a bunch of USB rechargeable devices (ie phone, flashlights, cameras, etc) and use the battery like a power bank until it goes down. Another far less efficient way would be to elevate the rear tire and just throttle full power for a while, taking breaks to allow the motor to cool, but, without a load, this would take quite some time. I don't think leaving the lights on would do much to the battery to drain it, and the bike would auto shut off after a while, so I wouldn't recommend that.
Oh I see OK thanks.@@leetjohnson
@@DavidLeeMenefee No problem, anytime!
U don’t want to store the batter fully charged but u absolutely do want to fully charge it regularly. The cells need to be balanced regularly and can not do that if it isn’t allowed to fully charged. U should actually leave the battery on the charger for around 12 hrs or so as often as possible. Even after the charge is indicting full the bms is balancing the cells which can take up to 12 hrs. The battery offset is to allow for more fram rigidity btw.
While you should charge up to 100 to balance the cells occasionally, you definitely do not need to do it as often as possible... this will shorten the life of the battery considerably if you do so.
Your top speed will be lowered if you are not in c5 =0,1,2 or 10 as will your peak and continuous wattage. 3 is about 500watts, 4 is 750watts, ect until 10. Try C5 at 0 for softest start will full power. Don’t worry about the chain ring, can still get home easily enough on throttle.
That wasn't what I found. If you watch until the very end, total wattage is reduced with c5 at 5 vs at 10.
At 5 on the C5 setting max I could get was about 1500 watts. When the C5 is set to 10, I was able to get 2000 to 2100watts.
You both are saying the same thing I believe you're getting his zero confused with a 10
Jfly should know since he’s actually the owner of the company
Hello if this is one of the owners of Wired can you confirm P5 should be set at 6 or 8 for best setting for the ‘24 Samsung battery? Also, any truth that plugging your phone into the usb on the back of display will harm your phone?
Thank you,
I’ve been looking into this bike for awhile because of its power and range I have very bad knees and cannot peddle too hard Or long at moderate strength so I need something like it to get up some steep hills around my area so I wanna ask how hard is it to peddle on pas 2 and 3? Do you think it’s good for someone with physical disabilities and or limitations?
I think it would be great! If pas 2 or 3 isn't enough you could always change the gearing to a bigger gear that will give you more torque. There is 7 speed rear gear cassette that works great!
@@leetjohnsonokay thank you very much have a beautiful life🙏
@@Brock_I_tell_ya you too!!
Leave a comment below if you know what the maximum temperature for the motor is for the 2024 Wired Freedom!
Ok will make a second post. From one of the FB groups I belong to, this one specifically for Wired, here is some information being passed around involving C5
C5 set to 10 is NOT incremental, MAX (1500 watt nominal) power from start and always.
C5 set to 0, 1, and 2 Slow start ending in Max Power 0 being lowest and 3 highest.
Now it gets interesting.
C5 set to 3-9 supposedly as follows 3 = 750 watts thus making bike U.S. Class 1, 2, and 3 compliant.
4 = 1000 watts, 5 = 1125 watts 6 = 1200 watts 7 = 1250 watt 8= 1300 watts and 9 = 1365 watts.
This would be why you see I difference in top speed 5 vs 10. 5 = 1125 watts and 10 = 1500. Remember this is nominal power.
Hope this helps.
@NOWitsOKto That makes sense being the nominal power, I really appreciate the in depth explanation!!
@@leetjohnson I'm just passing on info from a group with hundreds or a thousand members.
It's like I'm a wide body (in the 1950s when I first learned to ride a bicycle, they called us Husky) person, thus putting mirrors on is a PITA. So I'm trying something different, (absolutely don't recommend for trail riders catching air, etc.) but using a rear facing camera with a 4.3" display (ya that's bigger than the bike's display) to see to the rear.
Thus far, good for the riding I do.
I subbed to your channel on the other video as I like the no BS, this is what they claim, and showing what real situations are.
May I suggest as I've seen from other YT video, on occasion you might consider (for example in the speed test), "I'm 6'3" 220 lbs and blah blah, as we know weight and wind resistance play a part in the results. Just an idea, you might want to say, as it kind of gives a reference point.
Keep up the good work, and hoping your channel grows.
@@NOWitsOKto thank you so much!
@leetjohnson Motor temperature wise, I saw one of TailHappy TV's videos where he rode his '23 Freedom on the beach in the dry soft sand at full throttle until it overheated. It just stopped working for a few minutes. Once it cooled, he could ride it again like normal. So, that was encouraging. The '23 didn't have a motor temp sensor, though, so we don't know what the shutdown temp was.
I am looking at e-bikes and I had been thinking of the Ghost Cat. I was looking for the fastest bike that looks like the
Ghost Cat. That style of bike is what I am looking for.
What would you pick?
😊I just want to go as fast as I can. Have you rode the Cat
I saw that one, looks awesome!
Would you recommend a good E-bike that would be best for touring? I want to ride from San Diego, CA to Portland, OR. There’s no reason other than I love the logistical aspect of my adventures, For example, I plan two bow-hunts in a multiple states every year, and I tend to overdo it - 😅 Please, any help would be awesome!
Half-Assed Thrown Together Plan:
• E-Bike:
~ I have no idea yet; but I think it makes sense to have a duel battery.
~ Duel Hub Motor but can use one motor at a time - yay or nay?
• Single Wheel Trailer:
~ 4 Extra Batteries with 2 Batteries on the bike.
~ 2 4amp Charges
~ Air Pump w/ Tire Patch Kit
• Where to stay:
~ KOA Type Campgrounds/Motels
• Gear & Camp Supplies:
~ Backpacking Tent
~ Sleeping Bag/Mat
~ Jet Boil w/ Fuel Tank
~ Freeze Dried Backpacking Meals/Snacks
~ Extra Set of Clothes
Bonuses: My Pug who weighs 12 pounds will be going with me as well - I plan to stream/upload videos of the adventure 😂 For real, any advice would be awesome or recommendations… I appreciate y’all! 🎉😅
That sounds epic! To be honest, I don't know much about long haul rides, however, there are a lot of new companies coming out with dual battery ebikes, and most if them have the ability to use just one, or both batteries at the same time. I would search for the longest range (I've seen a few that claim up to 80 or 100 miles range) but, to get that kind of range, you often have to use pedal assist 1 or 2, so it will be a slow trip with a LOT of leg power on the hills.
@@leetjohnson ok, sounds good. I feel I’ll have to invest in at least 4 batteries plus the two fit the bike, and do a bunch of local trips around San Diego getting a better idea for range going up hills and other metrics testing/pushing the bikes limits. Thanks man! I subbed!
Great video! How does this compare to riding something like a surron?
Thank you! Not quite as sturdy overall with about half of the total travel and power...but also half the price and much less noticeable on the trails so people don't give you a hard time! The fat tires actually make it float better over rocky terrain.
@leetjohnson If the suspension had more travel and it also had another 1000 watts, would you rather ride this or the surron? Which one is more fun?
@maximumchargeEV they are just different in terms of use and access to certain areas. For heavy trail riding, away from people on foot and regular bikes, I choose the Surron all day. However, for going to the lake or riding on bike trails, the Wired Freedom just blends in much better and won't raise any eyebrows or be cause for the police/rangers to ticket you or even worse, impound the bike. I love my Surron Ultra, but I use it only when riding with my other Surron buddies or in the desert. For all local stuff around the lake and in town, I feel much more comfortable that I won't get hassled by law enforcement or trail Karens. A lot of this will depend where you live and ride most. The Surron isn't street legal, but this bike is (or at least can be) and passes the visual test easily...while explaining your Surron is street legal if limited to 25mph will be tough. Especially if you are going 30 or 40mph or faster on it in front of people. The Surron Light Bee is much more stealth than the Ultra, but at my size (6'3" and 235lbs) it was great but couldn't handle the really heavy riding stuff the way the Ultra does (more like a dirtebike than a heavy duty mountain bike). Hope that helps.
@leetjohnson thanks for the reply. Mine is super late cause I has another question. If you got something tiny like a talaria xxx, put pedals and a "bicycle seat kit" like they sell for the surron, and a gates belt drive to make it quiet, would it blend in with bicycles similar to the wired bike? Just brain storming. What do you think?
@@maximumchargeEV I think so! Honestly, I was actually thinking of getting one for exactly that reason.
How tall are you? Does the size feel right?
6'3" 225lbs and it is perfect!
The front and rear shocks look like they make the ride a bit more comfortable.
They sure do!!
@@leetjohnson Aim the camera up more.
@@haverhillebike will do!
That motor temp… if I was riding it up fire roads for 4 or 5 miles on a low PAS, do you think it would overheat?
I don't think it would be an issue if you keep the wattage down. I have a 750 watt Rad Rover and haven't had any issues, even on steep inclines. I will be testing during summer, which is when I would anticipate problems with motor heat, if any.
It gets hot here in southern Oregon in the summertime…
@Dustinrhoades I have a buddy that lives in Lincoln City and goes to Corvallis...Oregon is beautiful!
I emailed them and asked them if they were going to start a layaway plan he said it's something to think about
Awesome!!
Looking for a bike to use hunting my spot is a mile up hill about 45 degrees can't ride mountain bike style bikes can you put this on a steep dirt hill instead of bike trails
Sure can. Due to the high speed and taller gearing this isn't the best ebike for very steep hills, but you could always change out the front chainring (56 tooth) for a smaller one and have better hill climbing abilities...but you will then have a little ghost pedaling at high speeds.
6:45 DO NOT PLUG YOUR PHONE OR ANYTHING ELSE INTO THE DISPLAY USB PORT, IT WILL END UP DESTROYING YOUR DEVICE, ITS ONLY MENT TO TRANSFER THE INFO FROM ONE DISPLAY TO THE NEXT, NOT TO CHARGE. USE THE BATTERY INSTEAD.
Did this happen to you? I seriously doubt this....never had any issues with any other usb port on an ebike screen.
@@leetjohnsonno but there’s been plenty of people that have had their decides destroyed because of the port. Go ahead and try it if you want. Lol
@@KhyreeKee-ph8jo interesting, I haven't heard anything about that before. Thanks for the heads up.
Do you know what options to select if you want to be able to use the throttle even if peddle assist is set to "0"?
As far as I understand it, the throttle will only work when the pas is set to at least 1. The amount of power can be limited to the pas level, and it can also be always on and only on while pedaling, however, I think for safety, it is disabled when pas is set to 0.
Ok Thanks. Keep up the good work.
@@DeeRickDup Thank you, will do!
Okay, I just have to say I am not 7 years old and that was a great explanation of why not to have your battery too full or too empty. Thank you
Awesome, I'm glad it helped!!!
I know it does suck riding by yourself I have to do it if I lived over there I'd ride with you
Right on!
What about panniers for camping?
I'm not very familiar with pannier bags unfortunately. I've never used them, but I'm assuming there are some that would easily attach to the rear rack.
I've been looking for my first e-bike for a couple of years now and honestly I should have bought something by now. I was worried about my state/town laws but I see 15 year olds driving Surrons and no one seems to care. I like everything about this bike except the size. Being 5'8 and about 145lbs, I want something smaller. I haven't found anything smaller that doesn't ghost pedal. I'm one of the weird ones that actually wants to pedal lol
As long as you ride respectfully, it's not usually a problem. Yeah, most ebikes ghost pedal, but that can often be fixed with a larger front sprocket.
@rickymahoney6664 Have you considered the Cruiser model for this same bike? The step-thru vs step-over might be perfect for you. You'll get a bike that fits plus all the great features that's offered on this bike.
What voltage is showing on the battery when it is fully charged
67volts. Sometimes, it flashes to 67.1volts.
Based on your actual experience with the wired bike; do you think someone 5 foot 6 inches tall with a 29 inch inseam could ride the full suspension bike comfortably? I am concerned the bike would be too big. Also I am concerned with how difficult it is to remove the rear wheel. Is there a quick release to disconnect the motor cable close to the rear brake? Also if you have removed the rear wheel how difficult was it? The solution to the size of the bike problem would be for the manufacturer to offer at least two frame sizes to accommodate shorter riders.
I don't think it would be an issue, but the bike is big abd fairly heavy, but not dramatically bigger than other 26" fat tire ebikes.
Nicholas...I am 5''8" with 30 inch inseam. I had to adjust my seat to the furthest 'back' position in order to be able to stand over the top bar. It's workable, but barely. I also reduced the air pressure in the rear shock, which dropped the height by almost an inch. I'm getting more travel than they recommend, though. I'm still working on adjusting the handlebars, since I feel like I'm reaching way out. For 5'6", it might be a hard stretch to be able to ride it.
@@larsenjbl Thanks I was looking for a response from someone who owned the bike. You have confirmed what I thought this would be to difficult to ride & would present a safety hazard.
i just ordered mine and i live on the Pacific coast so im wondering how well these do in the rain
It will do ok in the rain, but I would keep the controller screen covered as it could get water in it.
@@leetjohnson ill have to devise a shower cap of some sort for it ,thanks for the input ,it rains here all winter so its important to me
Do you know how to set the time?
There isn't a clock feature on the bike, as far as I'm aware.
Good stuff. I have a Wired coming. Any idea what the danger zone for motor temperature is?
Thanks! I don't know what the exact number is for the motor temp maximum, but if I find out, I will let you know.
From everything I have found online, it look like 200 degrees is the maximum, but I will let you know if it cuts out and at what temperature it was at, if it does. So far, it hasn't gone above 170 or so.
@@leetjohnson sounds legit on the max temp. Our modern-day computer hardware is designed to decrease (or throttle down) at 100 C/212 F, which most of us computer nerds/builders don't particularly like about 90 C / 194 F. So 200 should be safe, but if it ramps up to 200 quickly I'd be a bit concerned.
Good update, thanks for taking the time to look into the comments from the previous video.
As far as the speedometer, I've found mine to also right ever so slightly fast, compared to GPS.
In my opinion, not really much to get all worked up over. Because of this, the mileage traveled on the display will also be slightly more than what GPS shows, again it isn't off by a crazy amount.
You will notice it more the longer your ride is. I rode according to the Freedoms's display yesterday, 32.4 miles. Cyclers app showed 31.4 miles and Strava showed 32.14 miles. So even the GPS apps aren't consistent. I'd be more concerned if the display read 40 mph when the GPS says 25, that's off by a lot.
Oh, glad you mentioned the kickstand rattle, as I think that is the noise I've been hearing also. Just a quick noise and gone and only with moderate to heavy jolts.
bout 14:26ish, two things it's actually even closer than the picture, why? Well, your weight isn't on the bike compressing the rear shock which would make the gap even tighter. Second, I don't really think this bike is designed for hardcore off-roading like a true mountain bike which as you know has a much smaller tooth ring.
Hope this helps.
Ride Safe.
@@NOWitsOKto Wow, thank you for all of that wonderful information, I 100% agree with everything you said!
It's only 60 degrees there, and it's already reaching 170. What will happen when it's 90 degrees outside? I guess time will tell 🤷🏻♂️...I don't want to wait for warm weather to purchase cuz prices will probably rise and more importantly stock will be much less
So the first setting is 18 to get it to go 40 mph then it goes to p1, right or wrong
The very first setting should be set to 72kmh for top speed.
This is the bike that I would probably get.. I still like mid-drive bikes especially with carbon belt drives.. The chain rings are smaller so I wouldn't have to worry about hitting a stump or rock as much.. It does seam like they have more torque for the mountains here in Colorado..
Mid drives have great torque! This bike is powerful and cheap, that's why I got it. If you plan to do a lot of steep hills or serious off-road riding, mid drive may be the better option. Let me know what you decide!
@@leetjohnson Will do..
I need to find a video that explains this. Trying to find your first e-bike and not knowing the difference between belts, motors, controllers, cadence sensor, torque sensor, etc. Its alot more info than I realized, and it's a little overwhelming when you don't know the difference. I've been riding on 2 wheels my whole life, so I know I could handle any of these bikes but it's hard to pull the trigger when you've never tried any of these options. It's also hard to make a decision when you can't even swing a leg over the bike first, nevermind actually ride them...Sorry for the rant
@@rickymahoney6664 Its all good... It still seams like the ebike world is changing so fast that everything might be different tomorrow...
@rickymahoney6664 I'm here to answer any questions you have! Ask away!
What’s the weight capacity for this bike
300lbs for the rider..cargo max is 50lbs on the rear rack
I'm going to take my fenders off and the rack when I get mine I have two right now I should sell them save up a little more and get this one
I'm thinking of removing my fenders and rack too!
My theory on the batteryt being offset is because the additional metal on the right side helps stiffen the frame, this is more important on the cruiser model due to having no upper frame bar. I say this because I bent my frame a little bit and noticed the metal fold a bit at that location. If it was centered the center bar would be have to be significantly smaller
That does make sense!
If I had this bike I would have to try a more road specific tire w/o the knobs. It just seems the stock tires are holding you back.
For sure...the stock tires are great for all around. I have used an amazing on road tire with a diamond tread pattern called Origin8 Supercell. Smooth, silent ride and grip in the turns (on road) like a motorcycle tire. Check them out! Not cheap, but worth every penny, in my opinion, if you ride mostly on the streets.
Cst big boat are also smooth fat tires I run on my nomad. They are pretty good. I swapped out knobby ones too because I don't off road that much
@@leetjohnson ,…. If you are not off-roading or winter riding the fat tires aren’t necessary either.
@@Doc.Holiday I agree, but I definitely offroad from time to time, even sand by the lake occasionally.
@@leetjohnson ,.. understand that, but for someone who is exclusively an urban rider (not me either) narrower within reason, street tires would lower rolling resistance and increase range. Granted, go that route and a different bike is probably in order. This mission of this bike is a cross over off-road and urban truck, not a nimble 100% MTB and Urban either/or.
I heard that you were supposed to put it to eight on the p5
If you have the 2024 version (with the Samsung battery cells), you actually need to set it to 6. I pinned a comment about this here in the comment section after I spoke to Wired, and they said that the older model (2023) should be set to 16 (LG battery cells). Where did you hear about setting it to 8? I have heard that from a few videos as well, which is why I reached out directly to Wired and asked them. Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it!
Does it have regen?
No, unfortunately, it does not have regen.
how is the power compared to the surron, I know they are both 60 volt
It is strong but only 2,000 watts vs 6,000 watts for the Surron. Top speed on the Surron is 44 mph and will accelerate much quicker to that top speed than the Wired Freedom. Obviously, the suspension is not nearly as good on the Wired Freedom as the Surron, but less than half the price too.
@@leetjohnson I’m in your area have you have any problems with police?
@@ardasgames4222 Nope! No problems at all!
Is overheating alwways a problem?
I haven't had an issue with it yet.
How’s the planetary gears?
Out of this world 😄
That 56tooth chainring is perfect matched with the 11 tooth sprocket in the back will eliminate that annoying ghost pedaling . I’m skeptical a little on the quality of the components , brakes , batteries . As this e-bike looks great on paper . I’m not a fan of metal sided gears . Tends to make the motor sound loud . Overall seems like a great ebike. Hopefully customer service is good and provide a hassle free warranty for valid claims . I cannot stand they do not take care of the e-bike to include up to your doorstep though . Bum move honestly . They require you to buy shipping insurance which should never be the case . With price, shipping , shipping insurance that $2000 becomes closer to $2300. Still a good deal and wish they had a 20” tire version . 26x4 tires are huge . Overall from what i see in videos and because of price i would rate 8/10 . If i can save enough i may end up with one
Spot on!!!
Hello. ...How much does it cost ?
It is $1,999.
Fastest best bike for the money
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Why does it seem like this bike is so fragile that we need to constantly monitor the motor temperature and baby it so much? Is it a trustworthy machine or not? Is it tough, can it handle being ridden for a few hours over various terrain? Why does it overheat and die all the time?
I haven't had any overheating issues....with over 2000 watts of peak power available (double and almost triple most other ebikes on the market) it is probably easier to push it to the point of overheating. The motor temperature sensor is just a cool feature that I haven't seen before on a bike, so I was mentioning it a bunch in this video. During summer is when I would expect any overheating issues to occur, if any.
Thanks. I just saw two other video where the guy kills this thing. Once just riding in sand and another time just trying to ride up a basic hill. Seems like the bike has some kind of issue that makes it shut down and die randomly
@dixienormis3614 yeah, sand is tough, especially with a motor putting out this much power. I will definitely let you know if I have any overheating!
It costs $800 for the battery, which needs to be replaced about once a year. Not cheap!
I've had many, many ebikes....never replaced any batteries. 1 bike had 4,400 miles in 4 years, most others had at least 1k miles on them and the batteries still had at least 75% capacity after 3 to 4 years. Definitely don't have to replace the battery every year.
Many, many eBikes eh? You must be a rich guy. I had an Aventon eBike for two years and had to replace the battery once. But the Aventon battery was $400.@@leetjohnson
@user-ji2lh5ce1t I've had 3 rad Rovers (family ebikes) a Surron Light Bee, sold that for a Surron Ultra. Now have the Wired Freedom and 3 new bikes from manufacturers for review (free). I've been riding Ebikes since 2015.
You break it you're going to have to go throttle only lol
True!!
Just a few questions What helmet are you wearing on the wired? A bike or motorcycle helmet?
What is the critical temperature for the motor? You forgot that important fact. As for the wear on the battery, you should be draining it to ~10-20% before swapping it out... The number of charge cycles you put the battery through also causes wear, not just the amount you discharge it. How come you didn't tell us what the battery was at when you swapped it out? There is a guy that added a second battery to his wired bike, but he used a 62 tooth pedal gear in the front which he found made it easier to pedal with the bike at top speed.. Have you considered changing from the one you added to the bike? The guy's name is Maximum charge.
I wear a helmet called "Basecamp"...just a regular helmet, not a full face. The battery I swapped out was for my GoPro, not the Wired Freedom. As far as the critical motor temperature, I'm not exactly sure when it will cut out, but I have seen it go as high as 240 degrees Fahrenheit without any cutting out or overheating.
I think I'm going to keep the stock front chain ring for now. That 62 tooth ring must be HUGE!
Do think that it will do more than an airiel rider Kepler?
@@stevenbatteau5981 do you mean top speed?
I don't think that helmet is rated for this bike. $37 sounds great though. @@leetjohnson
Wired freedom if you are reading this please start a layaway plan like others do, thanks
That would be a great idea, im sure they will or add an Affirm payment plan option soon.
Just a couple of things. There is nothing wrong with charging these batteries until the charger turns off. You will not save 5 minutes of total time over the life of your battery by stopping it from charging completely. You are correct you don't want to store any lithium type batteries at full capacity for more than a couple of days. Also politely asking if you could please tilt your camera angle up so we could see where you're going instead of staring at the ground constantly, that's very difficult to watch. Good job on this video.
Agreed!!! Thank you for the input. I appreciate it! I saw the angle after filming and was bummed...I will definitely tilt it higher on the next one!!
Actually, if you charge to 80% you get 4x the number of cycles from the pack. If you charge to 90% you get 2.7x the cycle life. I rarely charge over 90% unless I need the full range. Same rule also applies to your iPhone battery. Also, try never to fully deplete the battery and store around 50%.
Why didn’t Wired supply a charger that shuts off at 90% then? Seems like they don’t care enough about their customers
@@dixienormis3614In terms of not caring for their customers, check out Lectric’s new xpeak, the brakes barely work and it comes with the smallest battery on the market. They had to recall 45000 bikes because the brakes were deadly. Also, read their warranty and return policy, basically all sales are final. I am just figuring you are a Lectric man with battery envy. Starting to think those guys compensate for having little dicks by having even smaller batteries.
@dixienormis3614 Because then people wojld.cpmplain that they have a battery that can only charge to 90% and is a waste to carry around and pay for the last 10% of cells. Not a single manufacturer on the market has a charger that only charges to 90%. Charging to 100% and using it right afterwards is fine, just don't charge to 100% and let it sit for a few days.
I’m surprised nobody has dragged that log off the trail by now. No one strong enough goes out there apparently
It might eventually be moved...some people like the obstacles, much like the ruts in the dirt and rocks on the path.
48v. Lithium ion. Only loves hugs
Huh?
This ebikes battery is 60volts.
Do you think we can use voltage listed on display (rather than bar graph guess o meter) to determine safe battery operating limits).
Not sure what cells are being used, but thinking 21700 cells likely
@@randym8529 Absolutely, the.voltage is much more accurate than the bar meter.
I would have guessed using 21700 cells in a 16 series / 4 parallel configuration, from what I’ve read, this cell normally operates in the 3.2-4.2v range (3.6 - 3.7V being nominal) If there are 16 cells in series, this would equate to a battery pack operational range of approximately 51.2 - 67.2V
Do you think it would be safe to let the battery get that low? Or would it be better to allow a little more overhead on the low end?
What is it with youtubers not wearing gloves????
It's just not necessary. I've been riding bikes and dirtbikes all my life. I only wear them with dirtbikes, and I never had an issue. I haven't fallen off a bike in decades.
Give us all a stimulus check so we can buy 1
That would be awesome!
40 mph
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If you have a warranty claim for the defective suspension linkage and front headlight and fender mounts, you will be ignored. Mr Steven Golden will not honor the 12 month manufacturer warranty. There's a claim out for the frame and suspension linkage that Mr Steven Golden is completely ignoring. The bike was defective right out of the shipping box. It only had 75 mi on it in less than a week before the warranty claim was registered. That claim has been completely ignored.
I'm sorry to hear that. What was wrong with your suspension linkage? Was it just loose or malfunctioning?
Love my wired bike, 400 trouble free miles so far. No regrets.
That's awesome!
Your camera angle is too low. We want to see where you are going.
I noticed that once I started editing...my bad! I will definitely adjust it higher for the next video. Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it!
@@leetjohnson I got a headache watching but I still listened because I wanted to hear your thoughts on the freedom
@@craigbeeson1777 I apologize!!
@@leetjohnson there should be a hypersmooth setting on your GoPro
@@craigbeeson1777 it was turned on for this video.
Oh and wired told me p5 should be 6
Correct! 16 is for the 2023 models only.
Wired freedom e-bikes I will give you $200 a month if you start a layaway plan.
You should email them directly or even just mention it in the chat box on their website.
So unfair while they give few minutes of review get them for free while we the costumer pay full price you talking about 2k bikes if everyone should be able to review to get free ebike right this needs to change
I'm not sure what you mean? I paid full price for this bike. Nobody is stopping you from making a RUclips channel either.
It's a conspiracy and you're left out! 🤣