A few months ago, I gave away two of the 2 gallon models. The tanks are very sturdy. The weak point is the rubber seal and cap. The newer model uses a larger seal which is not available for sale separately. I have since started using a Wavian 5 gallon steel can. It is very stout, cost about the same as a 2 gallon Rotopax can and the spout pours really easily.
Great video - you outlined all the reasons I went with Wavian for my different size cans at home and on the Jeep. They are heavy but no leaks, no spills, no bulging issues. I think the steel constructions and cam sealing attached cap / spouts are the secret to their awesomeness.
😂 😂. You are very welcome. Yea…. The weirdness is something I feel RotoPax can fix. Thank you for letting me know you like these types of videos! I truly appreciate the feed back. Glad you enjoyed the video!!
Do yourself a favor and get a Safety Siphon/jiggler siphon. You can leave the cans on the roof just stand it on its side, run the hose into the tank and jiggle to begin the siphon. It'll empty my 4.5 gallon Fuelpax in less than 2 minutes.
@@EmbarkWithMark Harbor Freight has a version now. Best thing ever! Screw taking them full tanks off the rack then fumbling with trying to get the fuel out! Turn them on their side, jiggle jiggle and done if a few minutes!
Great post. I was looking into the Rotopax and ideas on storing them. I’ve gone with only the essentials and a few comfort items in packs and this has me rethinking what I store in the 4Runner on trips. It gets heavy when I have family on off-roading and snow trips due to the added items to keep them happy.
A mixture of comfortably and capability is always the problem with exploring/overlanding. I think rigs are more comfortable to drive ( on and off-road) if they are lighter, but I still like our comfort items when we set up camp. Glad you liked the video!
IMO, you should not keep fuel cans in your vehicle. Even when empty (if they have been used). The fumes are harmful. Brain cells don’t get replaced. Even worse if you have a toddler with you in the vehicle. Fumes get out. Trust me.
Well said. Personally we do not take fuel cans with us unless they can be stored outside the rig somewhere. Vapor from fuel is pretty dangerous and not something I’m going to mess with.
I honestly get the idea theory behind this tanks, but the price, the size/bulkiness, and now the nozzle issues really make no sense to me over cheap 5 gal sceptre/wavian jerry cans. I picked up 4 5 gal sceptre plastic jerry cans at Costco for like 12 bucks each a while back. I have a small rack on my tacomas swing gate that holds two of them. Easy peasy. And I am not poking jabs at you for having a jeep but yes storage is an issue with them lol.
All you do is throw it on the roof (if it is empty), then just tighten it down with several straps. In fact, you can take take several straps; cut them down to size and just strap in the partially empty rotopax. BTW, the extra mount does help you keep the rotopax on your roof....
So the EPA spout is totally not Rotopax fault, I agree and think I even stated that in the video. However, based on some research, I am not so sure if this spout is only for water. Thank you for pushing me to do a little more research on the subject. Check out what I found, I think you will find it interesting: ruclips.net/video/tRoKXSNOZa4/видео.html
Ounces = Pounds, Pounds = Pain, or in this case Pounds = Lower MPG, nice review and analysis on the rotopax, good video. How much of a pain in the rear is it to "vent" the 4 gallon Rotopax on the roof rack? If I a guy used the Rotopax Unviersal Mounting Plate would he be better off with two (2) 2 Gallon Rotopax for ease of venting and handling? Or to hell with it, and just strap a 4 gallon pack down to some cross bars like you did with a ratchet strap?
Exactly! To your question. Two 2 gallon tanks are going to be harder to vent. You’ll have to take both off the roof and vent them separately. Unfortunately the universal mount ( which I do have) and the way these tanks mount means none of them can be vented while being mounted to the roof. The two gallon tanks are much easier to handle though. At this point I don’t vent the tank anymore and just through the thing on the roof and hope for the best. The ratchet strap method has worked so much better for me than the expensive mounting system. I’ll do an update on how the ratchet strap system has held up in a little while. Currently on a two week overland trip.
No it’s not, but it’s really the only option we have. However, I may ha e found a new spout that does fit these things. I’ll be doing some testing to make sure.
for some reasons you dont know how to carry your rotopax and refueling... watch this guy not having the problem you did. probably the height of the vehicle. but for sure he did it better.
Looks like absolute junk to me. I've dealt with fuel cans for many years, including inside the mine sites. For me, a Justrite type II with the smaller metal unleaded spout is the only way to go. The only thing RP has going is weight and shape. I use a milk crate to transport my Justrite cans. They are bulkier and do take up more space. But there's no need to bleed as the lid is spring-loaded.
We can thank the EPA and democrats in general for those valves. I'm using a Vietnam era Jerry Can. It's heavy and awkward but the fuel flows when you need it to. When I was a kid you could buy funnels to fill up tractors in the field. I think with one of those funnels you could throw both nozzles away and pour straight from the can. I never caught a tractor on fire, but I am sure it happened. Hence the EPA made all of us stoop to the level of those absent of gray matter.
Yes, now that is a good idea! I like this funnel move. I’ve been thinking about adding a vent to these tanks as well. Than pouring would be super quick. I’d love if we can just have regular fuel tanks again. I spill more fuel fiddling with these contraptions than I ever had with a normal spout.
This video is idiotic, a 12 min video about how the Rotopax bracket is saving weight. Extra fuel is used for actual overland trips in the middle of nowhere, not your local Starbucks drive though.
Your so full of crap all you have to do is tighten it down with say a strap wrench or channel lock players and they seal fine it’s not rocket science lmao
I've been using Harbor Freight ratchet straps on my plastic fuel cans on the roof rack since 2014 and, to this day, they've been bullet proof with no slippage. As for any possible leakage, I purchased inexpensive floor mats and place each of them under each fuel can just in case some leaks out, it goes on the mat, not my paint. Last, I purchased yellow gas can vent caps for venting the fuel while pouring the cans into my tank, but also for venting while on the roof. You drill a hole in your tank after deciding which end will be face up on the roof, clean out the drilled remnants, press fit in the cap, and you're done. I bought a 5-pack and only used 2. When not in use, I also remove my gas cans and store them outside or in a shed, so they're not always on the roof getting sun damage.
Nice to hear this method works well for you too. I've thought about adding a vent, but the possibility of leaks off road concern me when laying them flat.
@@EmbarkWithMark I've never had a leak once laying my plastic fuel cans flat and I've been to some pretty rough trails in CA, UT, CO in 4LO (rock crawling) and 4HI (traveling at high speed on washboard roads). It's awesome to be able to vent the tanks anytime I want to stop. I've added the door mats as a precaution to soak up any possible fuel leakage, but it also provides a cushion for the fuel tanks to rest on against my metal rack.
A few months ago, I gave away two of the 2 gallon models. The tanks are very sturdy. The weak point is the rubber seal and cap. The newer model uses a larger seal which is not available for sale separately.
I have since started using a Wavian 5 gallon steel can. It is very stout, cost about the same as a 2 gallon Rotopax can and the spout pours really easily.
Great video - you outlined all the reasons I went with Wavian for my different size cans at home and on the Jeep. They are heavy but no leaks, no spills, no bulging issues. I think the steel constructions and cam sealing attached cap / spouts are the secret to their awesomeness.
Thank you! The wavian cans are very nice. It’s honestly the shape of the Rotopax that makes them nice for something like my Jeep.
Lmfao" blah blah blah my life sucks". 😂 thanks for the info, I really enjoyed this video and I hear you on the gripes
😂 😂. You are very welcome. Yea…. The weirdness is something I feel RotoPax can fix.
Thank you for letting me know you like these types of videos! I truly appreciate the feed back. Glad you enjoyed the video!!
Totally agree about the nozzle. I replaced all mine.
Yea, they are awful to say the least.
Great review. Thanks for being blunt.
Any time!
Do yourself a favor and get a Safety Siphon/jiggler siphon. You can leave the cans on the roof just stand it on its side, run the hose into the tank and jiggle to begin the siphon. It'll empty my 4.5 gallon Fuelpax in less than 2 minutes.
I totally agree. I’ve actually had one for a long time, it did finally give up on me. I really need to get a new one lol!
@@EmbarkWithMark Harbor Freight has a version now. Best thing ever! Screw taking them full tanks off the rack then fumbling with trying to get the fuel out! Turn them on their side, jiggle jiggle and done if a few minutes!
@@bradha562 I didn’t know Harbor freight had them now…. I’m going to have to go pick one up! I fully agree. These things suck to pour fuel out of lol!
Thank you Mark
You are most welcome!
Very constructive video 😊 But I won’t Rachel strap is still clumsy
Great post. I was looking into the Rotopax and ideas on storing them. I’ve gone with only the essentials and a few comfort items in packs and this has me rethinking what I store in the 4Runner on trips. It gets heavy when I have family on off-roading and snow trips due to the added items to keep them happy.
A mixture of comfortably and capability is always the problem with exploring/overlanding. I think rigs are more comfortable to drive ( on and off-road) if they are lighter, but I still like our comfort items when we set up camp. Glad you liked the video!
IMO, you should not keep fuel cans in your vehicle. Even when empty (if they have been used). The fumes are harmful. Brain cells don’t get replaced. Even worse if you have a toddler with you in the vehicle. Fumes get out. Trust me.
Well said. Personally we do not take fuel cans with us unless they can be stored outside the rig somewhere. Vapor from fuel is pretty dangerous and not something I’m going to mess with.
@@somethingawesome9547 didn’t mean in the vehicle, autocorrect should have been “on” the 4Runner. Would never do that, I’ve seen how bad that can go.
You have great ideas! Keep it up.
Thank you! Will do!
I honestly get the idea theory behind this tanks, but the price, the size/bulkiness, and now the nozzle issues really make no sense to me over cheap 5 gal sceptre/wavian jerry cans. I picked up 4 5 gal sceptre plastic jerry cans at Costco for like 12 bucks each a while back. I have a small rack on my tacomas swing gate that holds two of them. Easy peasy. And I am not poking jabs at you for having a jeep but yes storage is an issue with them lol.
All you do is throw it on the roof (if it is empty), then just tighten it down with several straps. In fact, you can take take several straps; cut them down to size and just strap in the partially empty rotopax. BTW, the extra mount does help you keep the rotopax on your roof....
The spout is that way because its not legal in the US to use the spout you have for a water pack from rotopax. Not rotopax's fault.
So the EPA spout is totally not Rotopax fault, I agree and think I even stated that in the video. However, based on some research, I am not so sure if this spout is only for water. Thank you for pushing me to do a little more research on the subject. Check out what I found, I think you will find it interesting: ruclips.net/video/tRoKXSNOZa4/видео.html
Ounces = Pounds, Pounds = Pain, or in this case Pounds = Lower MPG, nice review and analysis on the rotopax, good video. How much of a pain in the rear is it to "vent" the 4 gallon Rotopax on the roof rack? If I a guy used the Rotopax Unviersal Mounting Plate would he be better off with two (2) 2 Gallon Rotopax for ease of venting and handling? Or to hell with it, and just strap a 4 gallon pack down to some cross bars like you did with a ratchet strap?
Exactly! To your question. Two 2 gallon tanks are going to be harder to vent. You’ll have to take both off the roof and vent them separately. Unfortunately the universal mount ( which I do have) and the way these tanks mount means none of them can be vented while being mounted to the roof.
The two gallon tanks are much easier to handle though.
At this point I don’t vent the tank anymore and just through the thing on the roof and hope for the best. The ratchet strap method has worked so much better for me than the expensive mounting system.
I’ll do an update on how the ratchet strap system has held up in a little while. Currently on a two week overland trip.
@@EmbarkWithMark thanks for the wisdom. I’m working on mounting extra fuel to my GoFastCamper. This helps a lot.
you're right
Was reading on rotopax that the yellow spout is not meant for fuel
No it’s not, but it’s really the only option we have. However, I may ha e found a new spout that does fit these things. I’ll be doing some testing to make sure.
Do youself a favor and get yourself a sub 10 $ liguid pump at Harbor Freight and use it to traasfer your fuel , works great.
I think this is about the best idea for these things!
for some reasons you dont know how to carry your rotopax and refueling... watch this guy not having the problem you did. probably the height of the vehicle. but for sure he did it better.
Have they fixed that issue yet you made this video two years ago.
I don’t believe rotopax has made any design changes. But im unsure. I’ve not bought anything from then since this video.
Looks like absolute junk to me. I've dealt with fuel cans for many years, including inside the mine sites. For me, a Justrite type II with the smaller metal unleaded spout is the only way to go. The only thing RP has going is weight and shape. I use a milk crate to transport my Justrite cans. They are bulkier and do take up more space. But there's no need to bleed as the lid is spring-loaded.
We can thank the EPA and democrats in general for those valves. I'm using a Vietnam era Jerry Can. It's heavy and awkward but the fuel flows when you need it to. When I was a kid you could buy funnels to fill up tractors in the field. I think with one of those funnels you could throw both nozzles away and pour straight from the can. I never caught a tractor on fire, but I am sure it happened. Hence the EPA made all of us stoop to the level of those absent of gray matter.
Yes, now that is a good idea! I like this funnel move.
I’ve been thinking about adding a vent to these tanks as well. Than pouring would be super quick.
I’d love if we can just have regular fuel tanks again. I spill more fuel fiddling with these contraptions than I ever had with a normal spout.
Roto pax if you’re watching if I would’ve seen this video first I wouldn’t of “invested” 💰💰💰in your product..
I wish I would have invest less too. :/
Ratchet straps on rotopax work. Many people do it.
It’s currently our favorite way to carry rotopax.
The only thing worth carrying in those rotopax is water nothing else.
I can't disagree with you. However, I might have a fix up my sleeve!
@@EmbarkWithMark lol
Cut some of the tip off
Wtf
This video is idiotic, a 12 min video about how the Rotopax bracket is saving weight. Extra fuel is used for actual overland trips in the middle of nowhere, not your local Starbucks drive though.
oh
Your so full of crap all you have to do is tighten it down with say a strap wrench or channel lock players and they seal fine it’s not rocket science lmao
Is this in English?
I've been using Harbor Freight ratchet straps on my plastic fuel cans on the roof rack since 2014 and, to this day, they've been bullet proof with no slippage. As for any possible leakage, I purchased inexpensive floor mats and place each of them under each fuel can just in case some leaks out, it goes on the mat, not my paint. Last, I purchased yellow gas can vent caps for venting the fuel while pouring the cans into my tank, but also for venting while on the roof. You drill a hole in your tank after deciding which end will be face up on the roof, clean out the drilled remnants, press fit in the cap, and you're done. I bought a 5-pack and only used 2. When not in use, I also remove my gas cans and store them outside or in a shed, so they're not always on the roof getting sun damage.
Nice to hear this method works well for you too. I've thought about adding a vent, but the possibility of leaks off road concern me when laying them flat.
@@EmbarkWithMark I've never had a leak once laying my plastic fuel cans flat and I've been to some pretty rough trails in CA, UT, CO in 4LO (rock crawling) and 4HI (traveling at high speed on washboard roads). It's awesome to be able to vent the tanks anytime I want to stop. I've added the door mats as a precaution to soak up any possible fuel leakage, but it also provides a cushion for the fuel tanks to rest on against my metal rack.