it's messed up isn't it? But that's what J had sown. Noobs who tried to earn their way got met with war decs and spawn killing. They tried to hide out in seasons but then J removed the high price of time filled, tuvala ore etc. He messed up the marni zone rework and finally caved and gave NA/Eu rechargable marni + consensual wardecs after the noobs had gotten stomped out and left. When the negative reinforcement didn't work, he panicked and started us on this path of giving out free stuff every ball. While forgetting to add new marni zones, just dehkia infestation everywhere. Truth is that the game can't grow its player base on this current setup. Everyone needs to farm the same stuff and there are only like 20 channels to do it. There is gonna be grinding over each other, pvp or dfs. So people just leave. There is just no reason why you should go through this headache when you can log into marvel rivals/ow2 for pvp and ff14, first descendant, path of exile, warframe for pve.
Lmao. It's nice really. I just make music and I'm up to 9bill again after spending all of it on dumb gear accessories to bump up my gs. I don't grind or anything. :)
Instead of giving "endgame" gear for everyone i think they should make the progression smoother. If you can progress in the game having fun i bet you they would retain more players than by simply giving free stuff.
I mean veterans with no endgame gears before could enjoy now but would mean nothing in the new endgame new gear, also pvp is bad at this game especially RBF, that needs to be fixed
Yea i hope with karazad, they start expanding the build variety and take q note from arpgs so builds in pve are actually a thing and have more horizontal long term progression. And then just disable the super funky stuff in pvp so you are getting stronger but it's not as difficult to balance
It also creates a problem from which many mmos have died. The veterans just want to be forever entitled to be ahead no matter what just because they have worked more/harder and never taken a sizable break from the game. Pseudo catch up mechanics don’t work long term. You hide behind the word “smoother” progression while not defining anything about what it should be and how much it I would be better than the progression system that we currently have. Playing with semantics is not equal to offering concrete solutions/compromises. What I can tell you with a high certainty though is that nobody will play BDO seriously if it takes 2 years of brain dead circle grind and annoying journal jerk fest for minuscule stats to start feeling strong and competitive. It also does not help that game also does fuck all for teaching new players even the basics of pvp with so many classes, two specializations each, tens of abilities each, ccs, grabs, s etc. It is too much. It is a lot easier and less stressful to just learn how to PvE on one class than going through all that. I know the veterans would love to play the game where they just dumpster newbies 24/7 and one side dec anyone they wanted, except that it would only be them who’d play the game. The fact that you have to go to discord servers to ask trivial differences like between stiffness vs down smash, DP vs EV, can you grab in super armor, WHAT is super armor vs means that PA has miserably failed to even remotely interest people in doing PvP and then some people are mad that the newer generations of players are PvE “Care Bears” as you guys love to insult them even if it is not really their fault that they did not go out of their way to “like” and engage in pvp. Regardless of what path PA chooses, BDO is bound to be a niche game like Lost Ark is. Can it grow? Absolutely, but it won’t be a crazy 180 degree swing because BDO has some unresolvable conflicts of interest that would piss of either pvp or pve players, veterans andnew players. You can never sit on two chairs.
If you haven't realized but this is actually what the direction of the game is going. They addressed smoother progression through khazarad and now they added dec tuvala for your 2nd pen BS. They also buffed afk fishing to the moon so every day you make the same amount of money as 1h of grinding. Now you aren't "forced" to grind atleast 1h a day to have a steady income for progression. You're free to spend your time doing fun things that aren't necessarily making you money because you're still making like 1b a day.
8 times? Rookie numbers 😅 My main account still doesn't have PEN blackstar after 10 years of playtime (granted I only gamble with free crons from events, pit of undying and Hammers, the total number of attempts before the Agris is 80+ clicks with nothing to show for it). I'm 32 clicks into PEN Godr, 19/20 into PEN Debo neck and had to pity my way to PEN Kharazad Rings and belt 😂 also no Mythical Horse, 78 tries total until now 😂😂😂 my first T9 was 47clicks. Meanwhile my 2nd account of a year just bought everything while grinding for 0 hours total and is at 730GS just because I was only ever buying upgrades 😂😂😂😂😂
@@doremiBDO Seems you have reading comprehension issues... he said he failed TET BS 8 times and quit (because the game is not for him). Then you stumble in with your amazingly insightful comment telling him he can't play this game... Guess what kiddo, he already knows that! That is literally what his comment was saying.
I just want them to put a variety of raids and dugeons and maybe give them matchmaking. I think having high quality group content woud help alot with player retention.
Only for so long tho, i think that's an important part of the updates for sure but i think more than anything they need to improve the sandbox nature of the game, that's the main focus of the game and always has been, make the world more interesting to explore and interact with. They definitely need to make the group and dungeon content regularly tho, a dungeon every major update for example would be great, a raid every now and then would be amazing
I doubt military that would be even worse for the game tbh and I'm the #1 fan or the gunslinger. Instead i hope they make him more grounded in the bdo world and make him a spellslinger who casts spells through the pistol or something like that. But yes we can still cope for the male gunslinger, hopefully while we wait they make a necro class for those people as well
There's so many quests for every little thing, new players will be so focused on getting better but there will be not much progress as they'll have sooo much to do and not everyone has time to play a game 24/7 as investing alot of time into something with barely seen progress is very depressing, making them feel worthless or lacking- ppl who aren't noobs also quit due to not seeing improvement
I played 1k hours on console and recently got a pc and I had no intention on restarting on pc. Deadeye and all the new player changes is the reason I’m at least gonna give it a shot
Bro I’m just glad you’re off console. They treat that community so poorly. 4 yrs ago it used to be buzzing. They should free copy everyone’s account over, give them a month of nvidia GeForce Now and call it a day
@@imPansyConsole doesnt have new gen port to this day, even PoE 1 is ported to PS5, its an insult to people's time and money for having faith in them. I quit after 20K hrs like many loyal players that carried that platform.
@imPansy bro I'm 10k hours with out afk hours at 750gs on console currently building a PC and I have no intention of starting over bdo on PC. Due to how they treat console, unless they copy over my account as it is without loosing any of my stuff. Which we have been asking and their reply all the time has been " never happening". People will call sunk cost fallacy, but its more than that, the community we have had build, the friends and memory's we had made with in the game on this platform, plus obviously the amount of time and money spent. I'm not doing it all over again when PC bdo is not much different these days. Wish I had made the swap when open world, old nw's etc where a thing
With all catch-up mechanics and free shit given away you will zoom past your console progress in about half a year, maybe less if you're daily gamer. I run 2 accounts and my 2nd account started a year ago has now better gear than my main 10yr account, despite having a grand total 0 hours of grind. Just guild bosses and freebies from PA. And now also AFK fishing 🎣 Why 2 accounts? I bought the Steam version with intention to run my OG account on it BEFORE I found out that it's separate clients between Steam and non-Steam... And once they've started giving tons of free stuff about a year ago, I've just ran it afk in the background, because why not... it helps me host guild bosses in fake 3-man guild on Tuesdays for my guildies and friends to benefit 👀 I wish game had more meaningful life skill portion, it's criminal how barebone and dark ages life skilling is compared to ArcheAge. Their idea of improving fishing was to give you more money for AFK fishing... nevermind that fishing boats are obsolete, dysfunctional relic that have been forgotten since its introduction. There is A LOT of stuff like that in the game. Also party content - how am I supposed to bring friends into the game when we can't play together until they get enough gearscore to handle Oluns? How about making desert designated PvP zone and then giving grand total ZERO reasons or incentives to go there? Instead of being a playground for high risk, highe reward treasure hunt, it's just a patch of land existing solely to inconvenience you. Yadda, Yadda, yadda... It's criminal how miss managed BDO is...
After playing TnL i just can' t do it. I think bdo is the better game but i'm not playing a game just to grind for gear... I'm tired of waiting for my class to be be balanced so i can actually pvp with end game players and i don't feel like investing time just for it to be devalued over night. However i'm glad to see they are finally trying. Its just a little too late. Edit: I also can't get back into it the way i want because you have to buy the 3 separate subscriptions for the essential benefits
I really wanted to get into TnL. Hit level cap, got season pass but certain things I hate like no mounts over morphs, garbage range with bows, targetting can be wonky. Came back to BDO since lol.
My problem with TNL is that it plays like garbage. If they've improved movement, combat and life skills I'd consider it but rubber banding alone is putting me off, let alone garbage combat system. The only nice thing I've seen in it were boss battles during the raids, decent mechanics. Kinda like Lost Ark.
@@Micromationto me it felt like Lost Ark & New world had a baby. The lack of things to do and the toxicity and gate keeping are just horrible. If you’re not in a top guild , at a certain point the game will just become dull. The Rune grind they added is horrible and all the dungeons are practically the same dungeons over and over and over again just with an extra mechanic. No real professions. Pay for Power is real. PvP is always on a set schedule. Events are always on a set schedule. It’s the same routine after lvl 50 log in do 10 contracts , do your daily dungeons, maybe burn some Open world coins maybe hit a world boss or one of the same recurring events that happen every hour pray 🙏 for a drop you likely won’t get without being in a top guild as it’s rare outside of that. Pray if you do get a drop the guild does not steal it as that’s become a common thing. Log out. Will say it was for a bit but after so long just repeating those same exact events and quests over and over and over every single day gets really dull. Wish the events would atleast change up or something. Then the toxicity in dungeons and abuse of the kick systems. Bots and cheating. Then to add the movement and targeting where awful and the combat felt clunky. Like go play a game like WoW or GW2 and see how good they feel especially for tab targeting then try T&L again. There are allot of issues with it. There’s a video out there that explains everything wrong with it and even shows how classes move and stuff in other games and how they move or don’t move in T&L and why it feels so bad.
As a relatively new player, I like the forever season after failing to complete 3 season characters in the past, no pressure to stick with one server now, but I also think a special season server with 3-4 months per season with extra benefits would be great as a choice for other players.
They didn't do anything to address the Cron issues in the game or that imperials have fallen way behind, then they shit on everyone that grinded for krogs sanctuary.
As a complete noob, the silver from afk fishing is crazy strong, and kept me playing for the past few months trying to get sovereign/karazad 730 GS. While the changes they announced at the ball (if true) will likely keep me personally engaged for a while. The new lifeskilling accessories are hopefully better to upgrade than tet/pen manos, the new class looks cool & hopefully pulls good TL numbers. Plus the new game director, pvp changes, & new region all seem like a step in the right direction; but in typical PA fashion, I will believe it when I see it.😆Although path of exile 2 beta has been their main competition recently lol.
BDO after so many years remains the true open world MMO experience. Life skills, freedom of doing whatever feel doing. It has issue on balancing because wrong strategy of releasing classes like rabbit multiplication.I stil log from time to time and have fun grinding a little with my ninja and end of the year calpheon firecrackers
i will say that the city still feel full, and that steam is a real hard thing to go off of for BDO unlike Lost Ark or Throne as Steam is the only launcher. The Dragon is the same one they are using in Crimson Desert
I am still playing and enjoying the game and looking forward to the future content. I don’t care much for the large scale scene to much personally. For those who do , I hope that it becomes fun again. I do know they added competition back to Uncapped. If they don’t I believe new players/guilds will come and grow and a new large scale scene will form. I’m happy with the current PvP content RBF, AOS, Guild league etc… The new Demon land sounds interesting and plan to try the hard core server out. If I wanna do large scale I am playing EvE Online on the side. Really enjoying EvE online and mixing that up with BDO helps break up the tedious stuff and keeps both enjoyable to me. New Dungeon coming and waiting for the 100 lvl one. Sounds like we are getting closer to BDO part 2. Part 1 is coming to an end 😢. A whole new world coming. I tried getting into T&L but it felt soulless and there was so much gate keeping and lack of professions , combat felt like butt (ESO felt better and that’s saying something cause that’s butt too) , The runes system are horrible, to much cheating, botting and just such a toxic player base felt like lost Ark and new world had a baby together between the toxicity and lack of content.
@@sethterwilliger9434 BDO will never be able to fully stay away from thousands of hours circle grind but they can implement do content for gears. The grind in this game is what made me quit. No other way to really gear other than go berserk and grind 8 hrs a day
This might be a wild take, but I truly believe they should look into bringing in some classic MMO mechanics like gear that is level locked, and player to player trading with no restriction. PvP could seriously just riff off of GW2 WvW and do balancing like that.
It’s like watching a sinking ship getting rescued. The best time to board the ship again is after it’s saved and restored. My advice is just to wait for Crimson. It’s a much better experience to play a game on the rise.
If BDO makes PvP optional and focuses on PVE it could make a comeback. There are a lot of PVE players like my fiancé who quit BDO when they started being griefed. They also need to adjust PVE grind spots so more grind spots are competitive with the top spots in all grind zones. Variety is the spice of life. Revive the dead content by giving them equal rewards. Make it so anyone who hits a mob receives loot. That alone will help coop play. This alone would encourage cool players while they work on content… Buff life skills to be a competitive gold source. There is a big market for life skill gamers right now. Forced PVP is dying. If you make good PVP modes, PVE players will play them. Guild Wars 2 WVW is a great example. BDO did have a huge research when all the Lost Ark PVE players tried the game. Since Pear Abyss did not fully commit to PVE players by making PVP optional, they have mostly left by now. These half steps do not work. Griefers will still grief new players for their enjoyment and the expense of the games viability. Keep Arsha for true PVPers.
PVP is optional. . what do you mean? The problem is, the PVP options right now are dog water. BDO has a retention problem, PA has always been good at bringing in new players but they are awful at keeping them. You need PVP/hardcore players, who do you think is buying your life skill goods? PVP is not going to save this game but it's going to keep your hardcore players. There is NO endgame in BDO right now, no reason to grind, no reason to get better gear, that's the problem.
This is a PvP game at its core by design even going back to beta. PA has reaffirmed that it's a PvP focused game unlike a traditional mmo. If you don't enjoy that then maybe you need to look towards the traditional mmos. BDO isn't for everyone and that's okay.
I only do AFK fishing, sailies and guild bosses (used to be whales but can't schedule around it :/) with occasional grinding when I feel like it. It's been a decade now. You don't really need to put a lot of time into BDO, it's more like an extension of chat with 3D avatars 🤷🏻
I always ask myself why PA insists on keeping some BDO's QoL aspects locked in the drawer until people decide to leave to release them, eventhough the implementation shouldn't be that hard. Just an example: The pity system has been in the game for a long time, why release it for horses now? yes, because people are leaving. Crons have been in the game since release, why do they allow us to use them on Manos now? because people are leaving and because Manos is still a pain in the ass to enhance. So I think PA will not learn to listen until people take action. I find it ok if they suffer, because I see some positive changes in the game and I'm happy the way it's going.
the average for the game always was 15k peak, last year was a anomaly because lost ark players started to play bdo for 1 month and that's why the game had soo many players, bdo is just a small niche game
I came back and kept failing enhancement on everything, I'm going back to quitting. Too hard to progress when RNG is uneven and plays favoritism. If you have bad luck you are screwed for the entirety of your accounts existence. I have guildies who are always lucky, they don't try very hard. For me it takes too much time, too much failing. I don't have time for that anymore, not worth it.
Been playing on and off since 2016.. Not sure what you mean by making a comeback, other than the insane population the game used to have. The game is no longer "new", so people's interests will obviously move elsewhere. But like other MMOs, it will always have a loyal playerbase. Can't expect everyone to enjoy the Korean style grinding though. And melting costumes to enhance can get a little old after a while.
I noticed steam players tend to swap games more often. More launcher players tend to stick around longer. I myself have a steam and launcher account so I mess with both of those metrics but my steam account only gets used to claim the free end game eventually it will be 700 gs just from given items!
PAs biggest mistake was Lotm. it took way too long and offered way too little. 80% of the continent is story, which every player just spams R right through. the game has been far too stagnant because of how much resources went to it.
4:49 Before I say what I’m going to say, let me preface with this: when a game developer releases a short cut to an extremely hard to get end game item (or outright gives it away) to the entire player base they should give the players that earned that item prior something special. A unique title should be standard in BDO like with the infinite pots and some form of silver in the 20-30 bil range depending on how hard said item was to get. That being said, if new and returning players getting a short cut or free item makes you upset you are not a kind person. Some of these items are way too grindy for the average to attain in a reasonable amount of time. And them being able to enjoy the game more shouldn’t upset you if you are a kind and sympathetic or empathetic person. What should upset you is if the developer doesn’t give you anything to make what you achieved more recognizable and rewarding. Also, just an fyi, when developers do stuff like this it means that their player count is hurting and they are trying to woo players in and back. If they never did any of this (free IV BS, free V accessories and boss gear, free T9 and T10s, short cuts to high contribution, and more) then the game would die. The overwhelming majority of players left are end game players and players transitioning from mid to end game. This game needs growth and stability in its player count to incentivize the developer to keep the servers running. So if they didn’t do these things, the game would eventually die and the servers get shut down. I don’t want that happen, and I don’t want newer players to have to go through the struggles I did to the reach my level of enjoyment with the game. And I’m willing to lead the charge on that mindset in the community. Because for this game to survive not only must PA meet the needs of their customers and listen to us, we as a community must also be welcoming and friendly towards new players. Unless they’re griefing your rotation or talking shit to you I see no positive effects of being toxic to these sorts of players or trying to gatekeep them.
Idky people are acting like titles matter at all, and bdo has the worst titles I've seen in gaming history, a lot of the cool ones can be bought too, making most of them lame as hell and most people don't look at them in this game anyway. I think they should remake them and from this point on the new titles should come with actual cosmetics, if you beat the 100 floor dungeon you get the tower of god title or something, which would be an animated title above your name, and you'd get a cool trail that follows your character, or an aura affect. Make a setting so you can toggle it to only show your own trail and stuff outside of town to keep it from messing up performance. Then make a tier system, tier 1 titles give you everything i just talked about, tier 2 give you the animated title only, and tier 3 give you the basic boring title now. So depending on what title you have and what level of difficulty it took to get that title you'd look cooler and cooler, that is something people would actually want to chase. These titles freaking suck just a bland name in boring font it's the definition of lazy. Yay you got grinder for playing the game for 900,000 hours congratulations it's so lame.
As for the grindy part eh i half agree, the grind should become easier to catch up that's common sense, but i still think it should take work, gaming has never been about the destination solely, it's about the journey. If they want to make it easier to get to Black star for example then just make jetina cheaper, and make a system for black star, that's achievement based. What if every main story chapter you complete you get a piece of pen boss gear or something, that's infinitely better than just handing it out to randoms every year. I actually do think, if they're smart, they could rebalance the games gear tho, karazad is basically the only option for accessories now and armor is pretty much set in stone so make it slightly easier to get to the endgame level for all players, and take this chance so that the new gear from now on will be more like an ARPG with different varied builds (only pve) so its more interesting to get different setups and stuff and isn't all vertical all the time. Then you will have a simple road to endgame for new players that is really simple, and endgame players will have more options while they wait for the next vertical leap in progression. That would make the game more interesting, more fun, and better for pretty much everyone. Ofc you'd need to make more interesting pve but i think they can do that after the recent bosses they dropped
They have to do that or they can't get new players.. you can't expect new players to grind for 5 years to catch up.. you have had it you have been using it you got your grinds worth.. rather have more players coming to bdo and not quitting
@cainrip89 yeah man. Most people have that 'since i suffered, you should too' syndrome. This game needs to smoothen out it's grindy ways or it will never retain new players long term.
@@Blooddiamonds188shut up bro... this game was for hardcore gamers. Now its not for casuals and not for the hardcore. I got free horses my entire life and now i have 2 pegasus waiting for free attempts and soon also t10 doom. Wtf. "DREAM HORSES".
@alinvornicu7734 i dont get where you're going with your comment. What exactly is it about? Are you upset about a free t10? Also, what do you mean this game was meant for hard-core players? The only thing hard-core was the pvp back then. Explain your point to me.
@alinvornicu7734 all that grinding hardcores do mean nothing if the game dies because new players leave when they find out they will have to play 15 hours a day for over a year
In regards to BDO on console. I feel it would be very beneficial for them to revert the deck/karma and black robe changes. Our servers fed on drama & bullying/having enemies that you wanted to defeat & conquer. People would swipe and grind for months to be strong enough to be able to fight back and trash talk their long term enemies. It also gave the game a feeling that you were always in danger & had to survive & earn your grind spot. The drama & PvP deck videos of the past were some of my favorite things to watch. The drama & hate brought people together out of necessity & your enemies became your guilds enemies & vice versa. PvP games are always toxic but that’s fine. Humans want to be themselves online and let out steam & the stress they keep bottled in from everyday life. When BDO killed open world PvP it killed my guild & my friend list it’s been a ghost game ever since.
Ive tried to play bdo so many times through the years, and ive really tried to get into grinding and making alot of money, and each time i start, 2-3 weeks into grinding all day, everyday, i start ro really think about how long it will take me to catch up to others, because all i want to do is to be able to grind on Arsha. I only play games for pvp,and yeah ive played alot of AOS and alittle node wars, ect. But i want to open world pvp. I want to fight and pvp on my own terms, open world, without matchmaking, which the game has, but ill never be able to do it.
The director seems to be wanting to make a good game with the community rather than being focused on his own vision like J would. Last few global patch has been pretty good compared to the crap we've been getting since this summer. Maybe he was the person behind it? :D
Removing PVP resistances will just make more people quit playing outdated classes in PVP, and play something modern that has SA for nearly everything it does. Also, I'm not sure what Shai's Summer Rains buff will even do after that. Knowing PA, it will still exist and do literally nothing. Sounds like a really half-baked idea, like making everyone twice as tanky. All the valks out there really appreciate that buff and are a 1 woman army now.
You are still young player to me since I'm playing day one. I can tell you I have played bdo with fun but when archeage chronicles will arrive soon that will be game over for bdo.
playing with friends need to be fun and rewarding not a burden to everyone involved xp shouldnt be cut up into little pieces and split between everyone it should be the full amount given to the whole party and loot should be dropped party wide so everyone gets the loot not just one person
Worst thing about this ball is the life skill changes. From wat I can tell this won’t effect life skills in any way cause 6 is equal to pen manos and will probably be just as hard to get. Kharazad is the same, a pen Debo and nov kharazard are about the same in difficulty to obtain. People already don’t make pen manos because it’s typically not worth it and now we are supposed to make something that will cost more for an even bigger diminishing return (cause mastery is linear instead of exponential after 2k)? People are just going to aim for 2k mastery (2k+ not worth) also there adding those new tools for hunting/fishing so it should be trivially easy now. At best this means we can pop life skill mastery buffs without feeling like there being wasted. I also feel like they should have done a major class rework again or it least planned to do one. It’s a very easy and effective way to get players to comeback.
Yes they CAN, the question is do they have it in them to actually do what the players want on a more consistent basis? I have serious doubts unfortunately. I feel like everyone was super happy at the ball when j didn't show up because it gave us hope that maybe we can see the game move forward outside of J holding the game back by whatever he wants it to be. Overall, i think the game does have a pretty low ceiling tho unfortunately, the servers will hold the game back, at least in the west, but aside from limitations like that i think the game COULD become great. They gotta take player feedback seriously tho, no more half doing new stuff, no more lazy updates they gotta put in the work to give the players what they want, build diversity, more interesting pve content, more developed lifeskills, make all gameplay profitable (no making 2 silver an hour isn't realistically profitable), add more male classes, more skins for people who actually want to use them (not just turn them into crons), more roleplay content, more regular updates, fix pvp (im not a pvper but the hardcore servers actually sound awesome), exploration (cool activities to do regularly just around the world), dynamic events and missions, the lore is cool nut the story is horribly done (i haven't revisited the reworked story yet im waiting for the male GUNSLINGER EE CAN STILL COPE), and so on. When you first start the game it feels like you're exploring a new world and have a ton of stuff to do but pretty quickly a lot of it becomes completely pointless, most of it is boring, they waste at least 60% of the potential of the game it's really sad to see, bdo should feel like wuwa, when exploring tne world, you should feel like you should want to explore every inch of the map and be rewarded for it when you do.
One of the things i wish they do is simply improve the existence 'bad grind spot ' Like instead of adding new grind spot you have alot of grind spot thata are named by the player bad money per hour Fix those
4:10 well that is nice that you dont mind but maybe that is because you dont have them all already and still get something out of it. Personally as someone who got all 3 t10 the hard way I think this sucks because we get the shaft. They should have let you pick the lightning horse if you had all 3 of the t10 already. Its supposed to be for achievement right so how about rewarding the people got all the t10 like it was an achievement. Honestly this made me just want to quit again because what really am I getting from the ball other then a new class Ill play a week and being cucked for the effort I put into training. I feel like you have no reason to even complain unless you got all 3 t10 because you still get something. So the fact that your not complaining as a owner of only 1 I think dont really prove a point imo. Its not that other people get what I got it is more I get absolutely nothing when they get everything. When they gave t9s I never complain even though I had all 6 I needed at that point because there was still an option that was useful for people that had all the horses. As is right not if you got all 3 t10 then you get nothing pretty much and is why this sucks. I thought about this and I want to comment on the actual premise instead crying about stuff that aint even matter. I think there main struggle is this game has a played out vibe kind of like destiny 2 and really there challenge will be in trying to bring a fresh vibe to the game that people want to explore. Some mmos do this with expansions but as seen by destiny 2 sometimes when the game is so formulaic not even an expansion will bring it back. The real challenge for them is making this feel like a new game people want to explore again without burning the players put in lots of long term progress.
one thing i think they need to fix is the spawn rates for the greater bosses on NA servers lol NA has the lowest rates out of all other servers especially for nouver which has not had a bs nouver spawn in like 2 weeks
I think, bdo is doing great now and the things that they declare during the festa is also looks promising. There are 2 things that I don't like about the game: one of them is the op damage reduction, it must be nerfed immediately, the second thing is the team that are responsible from the class balancing. I think they need to play the PvP. One of the previous updates. They fixed the classes by improving their abilies whose are already top tear pvp characters like sahire, ninja, nova. These characters are already very good Classes in PvP. I think the the team from responsible from combat mechanics needs to play the game more. I think the "unlimited I-frame dodge" mechanic must have removed from all classes from those who have it. It kills the game-play. It requires no talent to play like I-frame than super armor loop. There are some broken classes and they somehow not touch it. One of them is warrior. They don't touch it and I don't know why... But the other parts are good...
Although BDO is an excellent game, the RNG aspect leaves something to be desired. I would rather that everyone has the opportunity to reach the highest level through quests or grinding, but RNG destroys that possibility. If they still wish to continue with the RNG game, then reduce it to a value lower than the current one. To ensure it draws in players and provides enjoyment rather than a frustrating experience of endlessly circling for hundreds of hours without any guarantee of success. I love BDO, but let’s be real: it’s not 2006 anymore, and people will quit much sooner than you think.
The answer is no, it wont't make a comeback. But it will retain it's loyal playerbase. The truth is - there isn't anything else out there for us. It is frustrating how slowly paced and misdirected Black Desert development has been over the gourse of last 10 years and continues to be. PA has wasted their opportunity of first impression and that's it - even if by some stretch of imagination it suddenly rolled out massive changes and improvements, overhauling forgotten and abandoned parts of the game with a bit more than numerical changes, people will not give it a second chance. It is what it is. Unfortunately, Pearl Abyss is not Grinding Gear Games... for my own sake I hope the game continues for another 10 years and gets improved, overhauled and revamped along the way. Because once BDO is done, I won't have a place to call home anymore 😢
Weirdly what they lost in profit with BDO , I believe they gained in Profit through EvE online. I was watching something when they lost that 56 bil to BDO they had gain a 56 Bil profit on EvE and had an increase in player count there. Will say EvE is Owned by PA but Developers are CCP. They atm have a much better PvP scene.
I log in once a year to claim the horses that's it. Game is just dead to me since most of the people I played with in 2017-2021 don't play anymore. I've always played gunslingers in every mmo, so maybe I'll try deadeye on season, but I'll doubt I'll stay long past that.
they should give big rewards when player complete all quests and log book ,not give them for free, player have to learn the game to get them not come and get them and leave again
I spent months maybe years creating all carracks + panokseon and they will just make it sellable in CM and saving time gated mats for t10, frustration from tapping 50+ taps just to get t10 and they will give it for free? I'm salty asf, im done and its boring but yea have fun for the new players who will play this game it was fun 4 years of BDO for me but not anymore.
On the bright side those Carracks have a decent price to them. Now you're 1 step closer to a Krogdalos sanctuary :P I know, it doesn't feel good when your time wasn't valued. Unfortunately it's what they always do during their balls.
@@imPansy I actually have krogdalo sanctuary 55fs pega 25fs dine 38fs doom and silver is so easy some dude will just grind for hours/days and 1 tap buy carrack from CM while I spent 6months+ building my first carrack from scratch, idk man im just sad and mad but it was fun 4 years I love the experience.
@@rhinanthe3884 Yea I feel that man. It's a shame BDO doesn't respect achievements like OSRS does. I got the bis melee cape back in 2017 and it's still the bis cape. That's some mad respect from the game.
I started getting into pvp this past few months and yeah I find the resistance weird.. I'm surprise they only addressing this after so many years lol. It's a good start I guess, the new fat J seems to know wat hes doing XD
@Cloqed POE 2, it's the goat....refreshing to have a company actually listen to players. Personally I think CDO is BDOs death date. They don't listen really now...can't wait to see how engaged they are after it drops.
@@Jenisiz7 brother they are all video games. Whichever you choose to play is up to you. But trying to “influence” other people to not play a game you don’t like anymore is just childish. Move on
You think so? Idk man I would love a redesign into a modern engine or a major upgrade but I think a lot of good can be done with small/changes . Would love to hear your reasoning
I love love bdo specially console i can grind and upgrade gear its like a solo asian rpg like final fantasy that has some people talking and guild i lovenit all i waiting is sovereign wep i be happy more lol
Let’s see if they deliver. I don’t need words and acknowledgments from them. The dumbest thing a human can say is see we’re having an issue, stand there and be “we understand that this can be frustrating “
Finally trying to appease the pvp crowd? Buddy they’ve been adding content after content for that section of ppl n they still are crying for more. Lifeskillers are the only ones who’ve been starved n still are behind. PvE & PvP have no room to talk. Pvp want them to make open world karma free / free reign grief city. PvE wants 3Bil a hr new fresh grind spots every month. Lifeskillers just want to keep up with the times.
nope... came back last night to tap the free 10k crons... no pen bs, no upgrades on sovergn either... maybe I should have tossed in that free 250 stack and waste it lol... back to roblox
they need to stop promising and start delivering. Getting tired of stuff to look forward to in the future 1.4B company and it takes them months/years to put in 4 new life skill gear
U can play BDO as a "free to play" player and make a lot of progress, like I do. I have a mythical horse, 2 sovereign weapons, full life gear and 2 ships and last time I spent money on this game was somewhere in 2020. In fact recently I bought some pearls just because I felt ashamed for receiving so much free stuff and not giving somethin back.
STUPID CLASS BY BDO. A medieval theme bring COLT PISTOL and A BAZOOKA. How moron PA can be? They shold known better, Medieval theme DONT MIX with VICTORIAN ERA
Love the videos but no BDO can’t come back …. They promised they wouldn’t put guns in their game and they did. This is a way to bring in new players, they disrespected the veterans and 80% are leaving from client. Stream numbers went up cuz of the new players…. Go to a busy server and you won’t see it as busy as 2019 BDO
Regarding the PVP History Talk by Je-Seok: ruclips.net/video/a6Busr18y84/видео.html
I just can't get over the fact that the best way to progress is to not play the game and wait for free shit.
it's messed up isn't it? But that's what J had sown. Noobs who tried to earn their way got met with war decs and spawn killing. They tried to hide out in seasons but then J removed the high price of time filled, tuvala ore etc. He messed up the marni zone rework and finally caved and gave NA/Eu rechargable marni + consensual wardecs after the noobs had gotten stomped out and left. When the negative reinforcement didn't work, he panicked and started us on this path of giving out free stuff every ball. While forgetting to add new marni zones, just dehkia infestation everywhere.
Truth is that the game can't grow its player base on this current setup. Everyone needs to farm the same stuff and there are only like 20 channels to do it. There is gonna be grinding over each other, pvp or dfs. So people just leave. There is just no reason why you should go through this headache when you can log into marvel rivals/ow2 for pvp and ff14, first descendant, path of exile, warframe for pve.
It’s for catching up. It’s not for getting to the top. 80% of the way but to get to the top requires work.
Lmao. It's nice really. I just make music and I'm up to 9bill again after spending all of it on dumb gear accessories to bump up my gs.
I don't grind or anything. :)
Instead of giving "endgame" gear for everyone i think they should make the progression smoother. If you can progress in the game having fun i bet you they would retain more players than by simply giving free stuff.
You're speaking my language :) Add content not free gear.
I mean veterans with no endgame gears before could enjoy now but would mean nothing in the new endgame new gear, also pvp is bad at this game especially RBF, that needs to be fixed
Yea i hope with karazad, they start expanding the build variety and take q note from arpgs so builds in pve are actually a thing and have more horizontal long term progression. And then just disable the super funky stuff in pvp so you are getting stronger but it's not as difficult to balance
It also creates a problem from which many mmos have died. The veterans just want to be forever entitled to be ahead no matter what just because they have worked more/harder and never taken a sizable break from the game. Pseudo catch up mechanics don’t work long term. You hide behind the word “smoother” progression while not defining anything about what it should be and how much it I would be better than the progression system that we currently have. Playing with semantics is not equal to offering concrete solutions/compromises.
What I can tell you with a high certainty though is that nobody will play BDO seriously if it takes 2 years of brain dead circle grind and annoying journal jerk fest for minuscule stats to start feeling strong and competitive. It also does not help that game also does fuck all for teaching new players even the basics of pvp with so many classes, two specializations each, tens of abilities each, ccs, grabs, s etc. It is too much. It is a lot easier and less stressful to just learn how to PvE on one class than going through all that. I know the veterans would love to play the game where they just dumpster newbies 24/7 and one side dec anyone they wanted, except that it would only be them who’d play the game.
The fact that you have to go to discord servers to ask trivial differences like between stiffness vs down smash, DP vs EV, can you grab in super armor, WHAT is super armor vs means that PA has miserably failed to even remotely interest people in doing PvP and then some people are mad that the newer generations of players are PvE “Care Bears” as you guys love to insult them even if it is not really their fault that they did not go out of their way to “like” and engage in pvp. Regardless of what path PA chooses, BDO is bound to be a niche game like Lost Ark is. Can it grow? Absolutely, but it won’t be a crazy 180 degree swing because BDO has some unresolvable conflicts of interest that would piss of either pvp or pve players, veterans andnew players. You can never sit on two chairs.
If you haven't realized but this is actually what the direction of the game is going. They addressed smoother progression through khazarad and now they added dec tuvala for your 2nd pen BS. They also buffed afk fishing to the moon so every day you make the same amount of money as 1h of grinding. Now you aren't "forced" to grind atleast 1h a day to have a steady income for progression. You're free to spend your time doing fun things that aren't necessarily making you money because you're still making like 1b a day.
I came back, failed a tet blackstar 8 times and remembered why I quit.
just because of 8 failures you give up? if that's all then you can't play this game
8 times? Rookie numbers 😅 My main account still doesn't have PEN blackstar after 10 years of playtime (granted I only gamble with free crons from events, pit of undying and Hammers, the total number of attempts before the Agris is 80+ clicks with nothing to show for it). I'm 32 clicks into PEN Godr, 19/20 into PEN Debo neck and had to pity my way to PEN Kharazad Rings and belt 😂 also no Mythical Horse, 78 tries total until now 😂😂😂 my first T9 was 47clicks.
Meanwhile my 2nd account of a year just bought everything while grinding for 0 hours total and is at 730GS just because I was only ever buying upgrades 😂😂😂😂😂
@@doremiBDO Seems you have reading comprehension issues... he said he failed TET BS 8 times and quit (because the game is not for him). Then you stumble in with your amazingly insightful comment telling him he can't play this game...
Guess what kiddo, he already knows that! That is literally what his comment was saying.
@@webbygaming1583 what are u trying to explain? what are u doing giving up from the start kid
Worst progression design . Grind-gamble-99.9% lose-start again
The new game director seems very ambitious.
Let’s see what they deliver by next ball!
or even more stupid
To me it seemed like he actually plays the game.
@@gundarvarr1024 only time will tell 🤷🏾♂️ let him cook.
tbf being ambitious can bring a lot of ideas on the table. whatever makes it out, the better.
Seeing the highlights from the recent ball, including gunslinger, has got me back after ~2 years and excited
My favorite BDO content creator. Happy to see a BDO video from you
Thanks homie. More to come
I just want them to put a variety of raids and dugeons and maybe give them matchmaking. I think having high quality group content woud help alot with player retention.
Only for so long tho, i think that's an important part of the updates for sure but i think more than anything they need to improve the sandbox nature of the game, that's the main focus of the game and always has been, make the world more interesting to explore and interact with. They definitely need to make the group and dungeon content regularly tho, a dungeon every major update for example would be great, a raid every now and then would be amazing
They keep saying she has a brother in her lore so maybe we will get a male gunner? Maybe he can be military theme instead of a cowboy
I doubt military that would be even worse for the game tbh and I'm the #1 fan or the gunslinger. Instead i hope they make him more grounded in the bdo world and make him a spellslinger who casts spells through the pistol or something like that. But yes we can still cope for the male gunslinger, hopefully while we wait they make a necro class for those people as well
You have a such a healthy mindset. It's so refreshing! Do you meditate, workout or eat healthy? What improves your mindset and attitude?
Not playing the game probably
@@theblackishboy1105 :D
There's so many quests for every little thing, new players will be so focused on getting better but there will be not much progress as they'll have sooo much to do and not everyone has time to play a game 24/7 as investing alot of time into something with barely seen progress is very depressing, making them feel worthless or lacking- ppl who aren't noobs also quit due to not seeing improvement
I played 1k hours on console and recently got a pc and I had no intention on restarting on pc. Deadeye and all the new player changes is the reason I’m at least gonna give it a shot
Bro I’m just glad you’re off console. They treat that community so poorly. 4 yrs ago it used to be buzzing.
They should free copy everyone’s account over, give them a month of nvidia GeForce Now and call it a day
@ yea if they copied accounts that would be awesome. I’ll miss my pen blackstar I got lucky and tapped on my 3rd try but oh well
@@imPansyConsole doesnt have new gen port to this day, even PoE 1 is ported to PS5, its an insult to people's time and money for having faith in them. I quit after 20K hrs like many loyal players that carried that platform.
@imPansy bro I'm 10k hours with out afk hours at 750gs on console currently building a PC and I have no intention of starting over bdo on PC. Due to how they treat console, unless they copy over my account as it is without loosing any of my stuff. Which we have been asking and their reply all the time has been " never happening". People will call sunk cost fallacy, but its more than that, the community we have had build, the friends and memory's we had made with in the game on this platform, plus obviously the amount of time and money spent. I'm not doing it all over again when PC bdo is not much different these days. Wish I had made the swap when open world, old nw's etc where a thing
With all catch-up mechanics and free shit given away you will zoom past your console progress in about half a year, maybe less if you're daily gamer. I run 2 accounts and my 2nd account started a year ago has now better gear than my main 10yr account, despite having a grand total 0 hours of grind. Just guild bosses and freebies from PA. And now also AFK fishing 🎣
Why 2 accounts? I bought the Steam version with intention to run my OG account on it BEFORE I found out that it's separate clients between Steam and non-Steam... And once they've started giving tons of free stuff about a year ago, I've just ran it afk in the background, because why not... it helps me host guild bosses in fake 3-man guild on Tuesdays for my guildies and friends to benefit 👀
I wish game had more meaningful life skill portion, it's criminal how barebone and dark ages life skilling is compared to ArcheAge. Their idea of improving fishing was to give you more money for AFK fishing... nevermind that fishing boats are obsolete, dysfunctional relic that have been forgotten since its introduction. There is A LOT of stuff like that in the game. Also party content - how am I supposed to bring friends into the game when we can't play together until they get enough gearscore to handle Oluns? How about making desert designated PvP zone and then giving grand total ZERO reasons or incentives to go there? Instead of being a playground for high risk, highe reward treasure hunt, it's just a patch of land existing solely to inconvenience you. Yadda, Yadda, yadda... It's criminal how miss managed BDO is...
Yeah it's a hard one. Deadeye looks cool but then I remember the grind.
Fr 😅
It is great to see Pansy drop another video!
After playing TnL i just can' t do it. I think bdo is the better game but i'm not playing a game just to grind for gear... I'm tired of waiting for my class to be be balanced so i can actually pvp with end game players and i don't feel like investing time just for it to be devalued over night. However i'm glad to see they are finally trying. Its just a little too late.
Edit: I also can't get back into it the way i want because you have to buy the 3 separate subscriptions for the essential benefits
I really wanted to get into TnL. Hit level cap, got season pass but certain things I hate like no mounts over morphs, garbage range with bows, targetting can be wonky. Came back to BDO since lol.
My problem with TNL is that it plays like garbage. If they've improved movement, combat and life skills I'd consider it but rubber banding alone is putting me off, let alone garbage combat system. The only nice thing I've seen in it were boss battles during the raids, decent mechanics. Kinda like Lost Ark.
Yeah they need another major class rework like in 2022 or 21 i think.
@@Micromationto me it felt like Lost Ark & New world had a baby. The lack of things to do and the toxicity and gate keeping are just horrible. If you’re not in a top guild , at a certain point the game will just become dull. The Rune grind they added is horrible and all the dungeons are practically the same dungeons over and over and over again just with an extra mechanic. No real professions. Pay for Power is real. PvP is always on a set schedule. Events are always on a set schedule. It’s the same routine after lvl 50 log in do 10 contracts , do your daily dungeons, maybe burn some Open world coins maybe hit a world boss or one of the same recurring events that happen every hour pray 🙏 for a drop you likely won’t get without being in a top guild as it’s rare outside of that. Pray if you do get a drop the guild does not steal it as that’s become a common thing. Log out. Will say it was for a bit but after so long just repeating those same exact events and quests over and over and over every single day gets really dull. Wish the events would atleast change up or something. Then the toxicity in dungeons and abuse of the kick systems. Bots and cheating. Then to add the movement and targeting where awful and the combat felt clunky. Like go play a game like WoW or GW2 and see how good they feel especially for tab targeting then try T&L again. There are allot of issues with it. There’s a video out there that explains everything wrong with it and even shows how classes move and stuff in other games and how they move or don’t move in T&L and why it feels so bad.
Oh and the combat felt so bad , movement and targeting was the worst I ever seen , it just felt kinda clunky to me.
As a relatively new player, I like the forever season after failing to complete 3 season characters in the past, no pressure to stick with one server now, but I also think a special season server with 3-4 months per season with extra benefits would be great as a choice for other players.
Agreed. I think the mechanics of the current season are good. They should just be baseline in the game now!
If it isn’t for the cheap pen BS, the “Deadeye” would be a instant skip.
PA has been lazy with new classes, for the past 4 years.
They didn't do anything to address the Cron issues in the game or that imperials have fallen way behind, then they shit on everyone that grinded for krogs sanctuary.
As a complete noob, the silver from afk fishing is crazy strong, and kept me playing for the past few months trying to get sovereign/karazad 730 GS. While the changes they announced at the ball (if true) will likely keep me personally engaged for a while. The new lifeskilling accessories are hopefully better to upgrade than tet/pen manos, the new class looks cool & hopefully pulls good TL numbers. Plus the new game director, pvp changes, & new region all seem like a step in the right direction; but in typical PA fashion, I will believe it when I see it.😆Although path of exile 2 beta has been their main competition recently lol.
Live life guys. Time flies.
AFK kinda sucks, where's my Full Dive Neuralink? 😅
BDO after so many years remains the true open world MMO experience. Life skills, freedom of doing whatever feel doing. It has issue on balancing because wrong strategy of releasing classes like rabbit multiplication.I stil log from time to time and have fun grinding a little with my ninja and end of the year calpheon firecrackers
i will say that the city still feel full, and that steam is a real hard thing to go off of for BDO unlike Lost Ark or Throne as Steam is the only launcher. The Dragon is the same one they are using in Crimson Desert
I am still playing and enjoying the game and looking forward to the future content. I don’t care much for the large scale scene to much personally. For those who do , I hope that it becomes fun again. I do know they added competition back to Uncapped. If they don’t I believe new players/guilds will come and grow and a new large scale scene will form. I’m happy with the current PvP content RBF, AOS, Guild league etc… The new Demon land sounds interesting and plan to try the hard core server out. If I wanna do large scale I am playing EvE Online on the side. Really enjoying EvE online and mixing that up with BDO helps break up the tedious stuff and keeps both enjoyable to me. New Dungeon coming and waiting for the 100 lvl one. Sounds like we are getting closer to BDO part 2. Part 1 is coming to an end 😢. A whole new world coming. I tried getting into T&L but it felt soulless and there was so much gate keeping and lack of professions , combat felt like butt (ESO felt better and that’s saying something cause that’s butt too) , The runes system are horrible, to much cheating, botting and just such a toxic player base felt like lost Ark and new world had a baby together between the toxicity and lack of content.
10K hours and I have zero interest in having to keep gearing through grinding and/or enhancing. They need to think of something new for gearing.
How else would u gear except for questing and grinding
Time to move away from countless hours of circle grinding for gears. Time for content to earn gear.
@@vteclee7100 what would that be? So you want them to just give u all the gear. Then why play the game at all
@@sethterwilliger9434 BDO will never be able to fully stay away from thousands of hours circle grind but they can implement do content for gears. The grind in this game is what made me quit. No other way to really gear other than go berserk and grind 8 hrs a day
@ how would I get gear without grinding or questing?
This might be a wild take, but I truly believe they should look into bringing in some classic MMO mechanics like gear that is level locked, and player to player trading with no restriction. PvP could seriously just riff off of GW2 WvW and do balancing like that.
It’s like watching a sinking ship getting rescued. The best time to board the ship again is after it’s saved and restored. My advice is just to wait for Crimson. It’s a much better experience to play a game on the rise.
BDO PEAK was at Covid 2019 - 2020, now it's just memories
"Can you win the lottery"
sure, is it likely at all? fuck no
If BDO makes PvP optional and focuses on PVE it could make a comeback. There are a lot of PVE players like my fiancé who quit BDO when they started being griefed.
They also need to adjust PVE grind spots so more grind spots are competitive with the top spots in all grind zones. Variety is the spice of life. Revive the dead content by giving them equal rewards. Make it so anyone who hits a mob receives loot. That alone will help coop play. This alone would encourage cool players while they work on content…
Buff life skills to be a competitive gold source. There is a big market for life skill gamers right now.
Forced PVP is dying. If you make good PVP modes, PVE players will play them. Guild Wars 2 WVW is a great example. BDO did have a huge research when all the Lost Ark PVE players tried the game. Since Pear Abyss did not fully commit to PVE players by making PVP optional, they have mostly left by now. These half steps do not work. Griefers will still grief new players for their enjoyment and the expense of the games viability.
Keep Arsha for true PVPers.
PVP is optional. . what do you mean? The problem is, the PVP options right now are dog water. BDO has a retention problem, PA has always been good at bringing in new players but they are awful at keeping them. You need PVP/hardcore players, who do you think is buying your life skill goods? PVP is not going to save this game but it's going to keep your hardcore players. There is NO endgame in BDO right now, no reason to grind, no reason to get better gear, that's the problem.
@ New players are PVE players. Forced PVP and griefing will never keep them. Time to make PVP optional for those players.
@@tistats Do you even play the game? It's already optional. . .
This is a PvP game at its core by design even going back to beta. PA has reaffirmed that it's a PvP focused game unlike a traditional mmo. If you don't enjoy that then maybe you need to look towards the traditional mmos. BDO isn't for everyone and that's okay.
@@Storm_Caltonic Games that do not change with the time fail and close.
Game has to many ranges classes that just eat up the meta.
Sorry i have job already. F games like this, where you need to sink ton of hours..
Bro I got a wife kids work and play bdo lmao off days are most time and you can afk money easy
@@im_killdozer5061 he want to be competetive but he hate to spend more time to be competetive
I only do AFK fishing, sailies and guild bosses (used to be whales but can't schedule around it :/) with occasional grinding when I feel like it. It's been a decade now. You don't really need to put a lot of time into BDO, it's more like an extension of chat with 3D avatars 🤷🏻
@rommelymas8100 sounds as a skill issue xD
?? You turned from grinding in game to real life start swiping then 😂😂
I always ask myself why PA insists on keeping some BDO's QoL aspects locked in the drawer until people decide to leave to release them, eventhough the implementation shouldn't be that hard.
Just an example: The pity system has been in the game for a long time, why release it for horses now? yes, because people are leaving.
Crons have been in the game since release, why do they allow us to use them on Manos now? because people are leaving and because Manos is still a pain in the ass to enhance.
So I think PA will not learn to listen until people take action. I find it ok if they suffer, because I see some positive changes in the game and I'm happy the way it's going.
the average for the game always was 15k peak, last year was a anomaly because lost ark players started to play bdo for 1 month and that's why the game had soo many players, bdo is just a small niche game
I feel like it's mainly "niche" due to years of bad press and a huge lack of group content
I would love to come back, I played on console but I cant imagine many people are still playing it. BDO was so much better on controller imo
appreciate a casual gamers take on this
If the game is going to go further in the dirt, I’m going with it.
i don think so, to much grind and rng, players ar just burned of the game.
I'm 80% back lol running into the same time / money issue that you mentioned
I came back and kept failing enhancement on everything, I'm going back to quitting. Too hard to progress when RNG is uneven and plays favoritism. If you have bad luck you are screwed for the entirety of your accounts existence. I have guildies who are always lucky, they don't try very hard. For me it takes too much time, too much failing. I don't have time for that anymore, not worth it.
Yes, as long as they don’t listen to streamers this time around.
TRUTH.
Been playing on and off since 2016..
Not sure what you mean by making a comeback, other than the insane population the game used to have.
The game is no longer "new", so people's interests will obviously move elsewhere. But like other MMOs, it will always have a loyal playerbase.
Can't expect everyone to enjoy the Korean style grinding though. And melting costumes to enhance can get a little old after a while.
I noticed steam players tend to swap games more often. More launcher players tend to stick around longer. I myself have a steam and launcher account so I mess with both of those metrics but my steam account only gets used to claim the free end game eventually it will be 700 gs just from given items!
PAs biggest mistake was Lotm. it took way too long and offered way too little.
80% of the continent is story, which every player just spams R right through. the game has been far too stagnant because of how much resources went to it.
4:49 Before I say what I’m going to say, let me preface with this: when a game developer releases a short cut to an extremely hard to get end game item (or outright gives it away) to the entire player base they should give the players that earned that item prior something special. A unique title should be standard in BDO like with the infinite pots and some form of silver in the 20-30 bil range depending on how hard said item was to get.
That being said, if new and returning players getting a short cut or free item makes you upset you are not a kind person. Some of these items are way too grindy for the average to attain in a reasonable amount of time. And them being able to enjoy the game more shouldn’t upset you if you are a kind and sympathetic or empathetic person. What should upset you is if the developer doesn’t give you anything to make what you achieved more recognizable and rewarding.
Also, just an fyi, when developers do stuff like this it means that their player count is hurting and they are trying to woo players in and back. If they never did any of this (free IV BS, free V accessories and boss gear, free T9 and T10s, short cuts to high contribution, and more) then the game would die. The overwhelming majority of players left are end game players and players transitioning from mid to end game. This game needs growth and stability in its player count to incentivize the developer to keep the servers running. So if they didn’t do these things, the game would eventually die and the servers get shut down.
I don’t want that happen, and I don’t want newer players to have to go through the struggles I did to the reach my level of enjoyment with the game. And I’m willing to lead the charge on that mindset in the community. Because for this game to survive not only must PA meet the needs of their customers and listen to us, we as a community must also be welcoming and friendly towards new players. Unless they’re griefing your rotation or talking shit to you I see no positive effects of being toxic to these sorts of players or trying to gatekeep them.
Idky people are acting like titles matter at all, and bdo has the worst titles I've seen in gaming history, a lot of the cool ones can be bought too, making most of them lame as hell and most people don't look at them in this game anyway.
I think they should remake them and from this point on the new titles should come with actual cosmetics, if you beat the 100 floor dungeon you get the tower of god title or something, which would be an animated title above your name, and you'd get a cool trail that follows your character, or an aura affect. Make a setting so you can toggle it to only show your own trail and stuff outside of town to keep it from messing up performance. Then make a tier system, tier 1 titles give you everything i just talked about, tier 2 give you the animated title only, and tier 3 give you the basic boring title now. So depending on what title you have and what level of difficulty it took to get that title you'd look cooler and cooler, that is something people would actually want to chase. These titles freaking suck just a bland name in boring font it's the definition of lazy. Yay you got grinder for playing the game for 900,000 hours congratulations it's so lame.
As for the grindy part eh i half agree, the grind should become easier to catch up that's common sense, but i still think it should take work, gaming has never been about the destination solely, it's about the journey. If they want to make it easier to get to Black star for example then just make jetina cheaper, and make a system for black star, that's achievement based. What if every main story chapter you complete you get a piece of pen boss gear or something, that's infinitely better than just handing it out to randoms every year. I actually do think, if they're smart, they could rebalance the games gear tho, karazad is basically the only option for accessories now and armor is pretty much set in stone so make it slightly easier to get to the endgame level for all players, and take this chance so that the new gear from now on will be more like an ARPG with different varied builds (only pve) so its more interesting to get different setups and stuff and isn't all vertical all the time. Then you will have a simple road to endgame for new players that is really simple, and endgame players will have more options while they wait for the next vertical leap in progression. That would make the game more interesting, more fun, and better for pretty much everyone. Ofc you'd need to make more interesting pve but i think they can do that after the recent bosses they dropped
the thing is we played enuf of it we just can't stomach much more (remember grinding for potion pieces 15h a day) now its almost free ...
They have to do that or they can't get new players.. you can't expect new players to grind for 5 years to catch up.. you have had it you have been using it you got your grinds worth.. rather have more players coming to bdo and not quitting
@cainrip89 yeah man. Most people have that 'since i suffered, you should too' syndrome. This game needs to smoothen out it's grindy ways or it will never retain new players long term.
@@Blooddiamonds188shut up bro... this game was for hardcore gamers. Now its not for casuals and not for the hardcore. I got free horses my entire life and now i have 2 pegasus waiting for free attempts and soon also t10 doom. Wtf. "DREAM HORSES".
@alinvornicu7734 i dont get where you're going with your comment. What exactly is it about? Are you upset about a free t10? Also, what do you mean this game was meant for hard-core players? The only thing hard-core was the pvp back then. Explain your point to me.
@alinvornicu7734 all that grinding hardcores do mean nothing if the game dies because new players leave when they find out they will have to play 15 hours a day for over a year
In regards to BDO on console. I feel it would be very beneficial for them to revert the deck/karma and black robe changes. Our servers fed on drama & bullying/having enemies that you wanted to defeat & conquer. People would swipe and grind for months to be strong enough to be able to fight back and trash talk their long term enemies. It also gave the game a feeling that you were always in danger & had to survive & earn your grind spot. The drama & PvP deck videos of the past were some of my favorite things to watch. The drama & hate brought people together out of necessity & your enemies became your guilds enemies & vice versa. PvP games are always toxic but that’s fine. Humans want to be themselves online and let out steam & the stress they keep bottled in from everyday life. When BDO killed open world PvP it killed my guild & my friend list it’s been a ghost game ever since.
Ive tried to play bdo so many times through the years, and ive really tried to get into grinding and making alot of money, and each time i start, 2-3 weeks into grinding all day, everyday, i start ro really think about how long it will take me to catch up to others, because all i want to do is to be able to grind on Arsha. I only play games for pvp,and yeah ive played alot of AOS and alittle node wars, ect. But i want to open world pvp. I want to fight and pvp on my own terms, open world, without matchmaking, which the game has, but ill never be able to do it.
The director seems to be wanting to make a good game with the community rather than being focused on his own vision like J would. Last few global patch has been pretty good compared to the crap we've been getting since this summer. Maybe he was the person behind it? :D
I dont like no spots when i farm. I like it now, one server change and there's my spot.
Removing PVP resistances will just make more people quit playing outdated classes in PVP, and play something modern that has SA for nearly everything it does.
Also, I'm not sure what Shai's Summer Rains buff will even do after that. Knowing PA, it will still exist and do literally nothing.
Sounds like a really half-baked idea, like making everyone twice as tanky. All the valks out there really appreciate that buff and are a 1 woman army now.
You are still young player to me since I'm playing day one. I can tell you I have played bdo with fun but when archeage chronicles will arrive soon that will be game over for bdo.
I believe it can, but it will take time. Its impossible to please everyone.
playing with friends need to be fun and rewarding not a burden to everyone involved xp shouldnt be cut up into little pieces and split between everyone it should be the full amount given to the whole party and loot should be dropped party wide so everyone gets the loot not just one person
Worst thing about this ball is the life skill changes. From wat I can tell this won’t effect life skills in any way cause 6 is equal to pen manos and will probably be just as hard to get. Kharazad is the same, a pen Debo and nov kharazard are about the same in difficulty to obtain. People already don’t make pen manos because it’s typically not worth it and now we are supposed to make something that will cost more for an even bigger diminishing return (cause mastery is linear instead of exponential after 2k)? People are just going to aim for 2k mastery (2k+ not worth) also there adding those new tools for hunting/fishing so it should be trivially easy now. At best this means we can pop life skill mastery buffs without feeling like there being wasted.
I also feel like they should have done a major class rework again or it least planned to do one. It’s a very easy and effective way to get players to comeback.
I hope the next class is Necromancer.
They need huge system changes, not just new classes.
Yes they CAN, the question is do they have it in them to actually do what the players want on a more consistent basis? I have serious doubts unfortunately. I feel like everyone was super happy at the ball when j didn't show up because it gave us hope that maybe we can see the game move forward outside of J holding the game back by whatever he wants it to be.
Overall, i think the game does have a pretty low ceiling tho unfortunately, the servers will hold the game back, at least in the west, but aside from limitations like that i think the game COULD become great.
They gotta take player feedback seriously tho, no more half doing new stuff, no more lazy updates they gotta put in the work to give the players what they want, build diversity, more interesting pve content, more developed lifeskills, make all gameplay profitable (no making 2 silver an hour isn't realistically profitable), add more male classes, more skins for people who actually want to use them (not just turn them into crons), more roleplay content, more regular updates, fix pvp (im not a pvper but the hardcore servers actually sound awesome), exploration (cool activities to do regularly just around the world), dynamic events and missions, the lore is cool nut the story is horribly done (i haven't revisited the reworked story yet im waiting for the male GUNSLINGER EE CAN STILL COPE), and so on.
When you first start the game it feels like you're exploring a new world and have a ton of stuff to do but pretty quickly a lot of it becomes completely pointless, most of it is boring, they waste at least 60% of the potential of the game it's really sad to see, bdo should feel like wuwa, when exploring tne world, you should feel like you should want to explore every inch of the map and be rewarded for it when you do.
im returning when deadeye comes + all the new update hits. until then, PoE2 atm
Been playing since headstart and love it just the same
Gotta wait for Crimson Desert to release for that comeback.
One of the things i wish they do is simply improve the existence 'bad grind spot '
Like instead of adding new grind spot you have alot of grind spot thata are named by the player bad money per hour
Fix those
pansy really milking this whole is bdo dead or alive situation
4:10 well that is nice that you dont mind but maybe that is because you dont have them all already and still get something out of it. Personally as someone who got all 3 t10 the hard way I think this sucks because we get the shaft. They should have let you pick the lightning horse if you had all 3 of the t10 already. Its supposed to be for achievement right so how about rewarding the people got all the t10 like it was an achievement. Honestly this made me just want to quit again because what really am I getting from the ball other then a new class Ill play a week and being cucked for the effort I put into training.
I feel like you have no reason to even complain unless you got all 3 t10 because you still get something. So the fact that your not complaining as a owner of only 1 I think dont really prove a point imo. Its not that other people get what I got it is more I get absolutely nothing when they get everything. When they gave t9s I never complain even though I had all 6 I needed at that point because there was still an option that was useful for people that had all the horses. As is right not if you got all 3 t10 then you get nothing pretty much and is why this sucks.
I thought about this and I want to comment on the actual premise instead crying about stuff that aint even matter. I think there main struggle is this game has a played out vibe kind of like destiny 2 and really there challenge will be in trying to bring a fresh vibe to the game that people want to explore. Some mmos do this with expansions but as seen by destiny 2 sometimes when the game is so formulaic not even an expansion will bring it back. The real challenge for them is making this feel like a new game people want to explore again without burning the players put in lots of long term progress.
Would be pretty cool if we have a male version of this class
Might wait til new season pen bs thing to make my 2nd pen bs awaken then make 2nd sovereign wep 😂
Game is on life support with people coming back after T&L but it lost all momentum.
one thing i think they need to fix is the spawn rates for the greater bosses on NA servers lol NA has the lowest rates out of all other servers especially for nouver which has not had a bs nouver spawn in like 2 weeks
Can we get an updated hunting guide?!
I think, bdo is doing great now and the things that they declare during the festa is also looks promising. There are 2 things that I don't like about the game: one of them is the op damage reduction, it must be nerfed immediately, the second thing is the team that are responsible from the class balancing. I think they need to play the PvP. One of the previous updates. They fixed the classes by improving their abilies whose are already top tear pvp characters like sahire, ninja, nova. These characters are already very good Classes in PvP. I think the the team from responsible from combat mechanics needs to play the game more. I think the "unlimited I-frame dodge" mechanic must have removed from all classes from those who have it. It kills the game-play. It requires no talent to play like I-frame than super armor loop. There are some broken classes and they somehow not touch it. One of them is warrior. They don't touch it and I don't know why... But the other parts are good...
Although BDO is an excellent game, the RNG aspect leaves something to be desired. I would rather that everyone has the opportunity to reach the highest level through quests or grinding, but RNG destroys that possibility. If they still wish to continue with the RNG game, then reduce it to a value lower than the current one. To ensure it draws in players and provides enjoyment rather than a frustrating experience of endlessly circling for hundreds of hours without any guarantee of success. I love BDO, but let’s be real: it’s not 2006 anymore, and people will quit much sooner than you think.
I just back to the game one tap pen awk blackstar, and acc. Still sceptic about playing the game again
The answer is no, it wont't make a comeback. But it will retain it's loyal playerbase. The truth is - there isn't anything else out there for us. It is frustrating how slowly paced and misdirected Black Desert development has been over the gourse of last 10 years and continues to be. PA has wasted their opportunity of first impression and that's it - even if by some stretch of imagination it suddenly rolled out massive changes and improvements, overhauling forgotten and abandoned parts of the game with a bit more than numerical changes, people will not give it a second chance. It is what it is. Unfortunately, Pearl Abyss is not Grinding Gear Games... for my own sake I hope the game continues for another 10 years and gets improved, overhauled and revamped along the way. Because once BDO is done, I won't have a place to call home anymore 😢
Weirdly what they lost in profit with BDO , I believe they gained in Profit through EvE online. I was watching something when they lost that 56 bil to BDO they had gain a 56 Bil profit on EvE and had an increase in player count there. Will say EvE is Owned by PA but Developers are CCP. They atm have a much better PvP scene.
They make anything tap tap tap! until u reach the maximum to each tap level
Hell no. Crimson Desert looks good though.
Not good as bdo tbh
The new class doesn’t seem to fit the BDO universe. I love BDO but it’s draining.
i have 8 personal friends, they all but myself play on luancher
I log in once a year to claim the horses that's it. Game is just dead to me since most of the people I played with in 2017-2021 don't play anymore. I've always played gunslingers in every mmo, so maybe I'll try deadeye on season, but I'll doubt I'll stay long past that.
they should give big rewards when player complete all quests and log book ,not give them for free, player have to learn the game to get them not come and get them and leave again
I spent months maybe years creating all carracks + panokseon and they will just make it sellable in CM and saving time gated mats for t10, frustration from tapping 50+ taps just to get t10 and they will give it for free? I'm salty asf, im done and its boring but yea have fun for the new players who will play this game it was fun 4 years of BDO for me but not anymore.
On the bright side those Carracks have a decent price to them. Now you're 1 step closer to a Krogdalos sanctuary :P
I know, it doesn't feel good when your time wasn't valued. Unfortunately it's what they always do during their balls.
@@imPansy I actually have krogdalo sanctuary 55fs pega 25fs dine 38fs doom and silver is so easy some dude will just grind for hours/days and 1 tap buy carrack from CM while I spent 6months+ building my first carrack from scratch, idk man im just sad and mad but it was fun 4 years I love the experience.
@@rhinanthe3884 Yea I feel that man. It's a shame BDO doesn't respect achievements like OSRS does. I got the bis melee cape back in 2017 and it's still the bis cape. That's some mad respect from the game.
I started getting into pvp this past few months and yeah I find the resistance weird.. I'm surprise they only addressing this after so many years lol. It's a good start I guess, the new fat J seems to know wat hes doing XD
NO RUN AWAY!!!!
This game is just utterly overcomplicated.
aint that the truth
Was it gone? I didnt notice anything diferent, been playing like I normaly do for the past 5 years
Yeah, PVP content has been down bad. Shoo shoo, back into your cave
NA has lost 80-90% of its playerbase in the past year
@@ostrogothiccyoutube8118 LOL, not true at all... stop lying just to stir drama, kid.
there are core issues with the gameplay that they failed to improve so no I think its downfall from here. poe2 is popping of, it's gonna be rough.
Im sorry the direction is bad they just dont get it and I dont think most ppl get it. the game needs someone to run it who will take away the trash
The answer is...... No
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😂😂😂😂 haha never
ROFL another content creator where Black desert is living rent free in there head. Arnt you simping for throne and liberty now?
@Cloqed POE 2, it's the goat....refreshing to have a company actually listen to players. Personally I think CDO is BDOs death date. They don't listen really now...can't wait to see how engaged they are after it drops.
@@Jenisiz7 brother they are all video games. Whichever you choose to play is up to you. But trying to “influence” other people to not play a game you don’t like anymore is just childish. Move on
No
Nope, the game would have to be redesigned from the ground up and that will never happen.
You think so? Idk man I would love a redesign into a modern engine or a major upgrade but I think a lot of good can be done with small/changes . Would love to hear your reasoning
I love love bdo specially console i can grind and upgrade gear its like a solo asian rpg like final fantasy that has some people talking and guild i lovenit all i waiting is sovereign wep i be happy more lol
they're finally trying to appease the pvp crowd as a last ditch effort 😭
I honestly think the guy that was on festa understands unlike j
Let’s see if they deliver. I don’t need words and acknowledgments from them. The dumbest thing a human can say is see we’re having an issue, stand there and be “we understand that this can be frustrating “
Finally trying to appease the pvp crowd? Buddy they’ve been adding content after content for that section of ppl n they still are crying for more. Lifeskillers are the only ones who’ve been starved n still are behind. PvE & PvP have no room to talk. Pvp want them to make open world karma free / free reign grief city. PvE wants 3Bil a hr new fresh grind spots every month. Lifeskillers just want to keep up with the times.
@@jerimiahjackson4235 yeah they've added PvP content nobody likes or cares about.
nope... came back last night to tap the free 10k crons... no pen bs, no upgrades on sovergn either... maybe I should have tossed in that free 250 stack and waste it lol... back to roblox
they need to stop promising and start delivering. Getting tired of stuff to look forward to in the future 1.4B company and it takes them months/years to put in 4 new life skill gear
U can play BDO as a "free to play" player and make a lot of progress, like I do. I have a mythical horse, 2 sovereign weapons, full life gear and 2 ships and last time I spent money on this game was somewhere in 2020.
In fact recently I bought some pearls just because I felt ashamed for receiving so much free stuff and not giving somethin back.
STUPID CLASS BY BDO. A medieval theme bring COLT PISTOL and A BAZOOKA. How moron PA can be?
They shold known better, Medieval theme DONT MIX with VICTORIAN ERA
This. They killed any immersion this game ever had.
why do people focus on bdo steam charts shits not a main steam game. whouldnt even bother opening the chart.
Just for the trend.
just tried it, its jank as hell
Shes lookng for her brother in the trailer i guess its the male version of the her
the reason BDO has no chance is that its DEAD now and ashes isnt even out yet. BDO has no direct competitor and its dead, think about that.
Love the videos but no BDO can’t come back …. They promised they wouldn’t put guns in their game and they did. This is a way to bring in new players, they disrespected the veterans and 80% are leaving from client. Stream numbers went up cuz of the new players…. Go to a busy server and you won’t see it as busy as 2019 BDO
Tbf servers were over crowded in summer 2023 and muskets have been around for ages. But yeah not thrilled gunslinger is coming out but no necromancer