I have worked with RC airplanes and other RCs my whole life, when you plugged the power in with your arm going through the blades, my heart dropped. I know nothing should ever happen, but sometimes electronics are wonky, be careful!
yall do realize he is plugging power to the battery and not the actual operating system. he has to disconnect the power source to charge said power source.
FYI you can change the flight mode in the field without having to plug it into the computer. When the throttles arm just hold down the button and it'll switch modes.
Welcome to the electric world! I got the first generation Open PPG SP 140 and I have loved it ever since. I love the reliability and how smooth it is. I can let off the throttle and just glide quietly. Hope you have a blast!
What do you think about using an electric paramotor in a flight school? "Engine Management" is much simpler with electric propulsion. No pull start, no cold / warm start problems, ... So a flight student can concentrate more on handling the glider etc. and needs less attention to the engine. Less work load is exactly what is needed in this scenario. The limited flight time doesn't matter for your first small hops into the air.
@@TuckerGottinteresting that somebody mention this. i also just finished another version specially for schools with safety features build in, for students who are ready for their first flights. fall down protection, lightweight around 16kg, fast charging battery packs which are full in 10-15 min ect. a simple training unit for schools. inexpensive and robust.
It is better to learn with the type of equipment you will use later. It is easier to learn good habits from the start than to start with bad habits, then unlearn the bad habits to replace them with good ones. There is no point to learn to drive an automatic gearbox car if you plan to drive a manual.
I find electric stuff is less intimidatingly too for a beginner.. Not as much noise etc... I will say even being around dirtbikes and motorcycles growing up, my gas paramotor scared the sh** out of me for a while until I got use to it.
@@warrenkral6562 excellent point. i also agree that a rumbleling 2 stroke on my back was really not helping to get the nerves down. and electric ppg is very powerful but without the drama and the missing vibrations making it the perfect first flight training unit. i also say that first PPG flights should be electric in every school.
I love my electric paramotor. The simplicity and smoothness is just a game changer in my opinion. Still have my old gasoline motor for the few long flights however.
Like the early electric autos (or electric anything!), an ePPG is in the very early adoption phase and Open PPG should be congratulated on starting this whole transition. I’ve been following them for years and Paul has done a great job in bringing this unit to the PPG community. Not perfect by any means and most pilots may be turned off by the low flight times…but battery tech continues to progress and soon more and more pilots will wonder how they ever put up with 2 stroke noise, smell, oil mixing, constant maintenance, and engine outs (I’ve had 4). I hope this starts to encourage other players in the game. I do know of other pilots starting to put together electric units. Since I only fly around 30-50 minutes on each flight, I fully intend to get one. I would also love an add-on system to current frames as I would prefer something like the Fly Products Eclipse, Kangook (or Rider). Thanks for the review and will look forward to your discovery flights! Would love to know if anyone out there has had quality 3D parts fail?
@@TuckerGott I also wanted to mention that those curious can visit the website and read a lot of feedback on the community forum. I love how open and helpful everyone is and quick to answer any questions. Thanks again!
Seems that electric is better suited on a trike where you could theoretically add bigger batteries for longer flight times and still be able to launch, whereas adding weight to a standard PPG would make it almost impossible or at least impractical to launch. Double the battery and you have something with flight times worthy of spending the money on. Right now the flight time is just too short to justify imo.
@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 You will run into the issue of diminishing returns similar to (though not the same as) the rocket equation. More battery weight = need more energy output to maintain flight. Use more energy means getting less flight time/KWh total... it's a balancing act. *Can* you get more flight time on electric? Absolutely you can - there are now all-electric small planes out there - but it does mean you end up scaling everything up, including $$$.
@@jonahreyes615 It’s a para glider. When the battery dies. You only have. 30 minutes of flight left,, maybe more depends on updrafts. You should think about what you wrote….
@@jonahreyes615 Once you're out of gas or battery power you just become a normal paraglider. You can tip toe in a landing with any amount of head wind.
@@jonahreyes615 This question reminds me of that one time I heard someone worried they wouldn't be able to see if the battery on their smart glasses ran out.
From a non paramotor pilot here, seems to me the biggest advantage of electric would be reliability and fewer parts to fail, combined with lower maintenance and minimal vibration and noise. Weight and flight time would be the biggest detractors. It's enticing to not have to worry about fuel stability, freshness, ethanol levels, carburetor tuning, engine starting, vibrating parts falling off, etc. If I ever tip my toe into this sport, pretty sure it will be with electric.
@@MichaelRei99 Not worried about it. I have carried cell phones in my pocket with the identical battery technology for 20 years and never had any problem. The technology is matured and relatively safe. Most problems with batteries occur when they''re being charged with improper equipment or when they are ruptured with physical damage.
Very well made video Tucker! Thanks for all the information and entertainment. Happy to support Risky Biscuits for all the amazing content over the years, and for a chance to win that e-PPG! 🤩
I use 3d printers and don’t really mind the 3d printed parts, they can be very strong if printed properly and using the correct filament. I also like that the files are available and you can print extra parts when needed 👍 Looking forward to the first take off and flight review 🪂
What I gained from this is that the motor will mount to a standard frame if you want to switch existing equipment over to electric. In theroy you could just buy the motor, controller and battery. Would be cool to build a custom battery for this even tho the packaging they have is pretty sweet thats a wicked expensive battery.
i was curious whether the battery should really be considered expensive. it's $2,200 and could give you ~900, 30 min flights (before battery degradation makes continued usage untenable), so 10 years of flying? recharging costs could vary a lot depending on your location, but compared with gas, oil, engine maintenance & replacement parts etc., you might find it's actually cheaper for your total cost of ownership to go electric. but you're comparing that to much longer range/flight times with gas and the convenience of quickly refilling, which might be a dealbreaker depending on the type of flying you want to do.
Thank you for doing this review! Can’t wait to see more videos with it. Also nice to see my comment asking to review this shown in the beginning of the video! 😀 as someone who hasn’t got into the sport yet, this setup intrigues me more than gas powered.
Been subscribed forever. Saw the new video show in my feed way late after not seeing one for at-least a year. I clicked the bell this time so I always see new Tucker Gott videos.
I've been flying the sp140 for 2 years now, overall it's a pretty nice machine. I really like the new frame and swing arms! I've done quite a few videos on how this thing works and I'll be interested to see what your opinion is on this electric motor
I've been subscribed for about 2-3 years and have been really excited about flying soon. I've finally started a paramotor savings account and have been putting some cash in every paycheck. I live close to Aviator Paramotor and can't wait to start learning. I love your videos. Thank you for the inspiration!
3D printed parts aren't a problem per se if you choose the right printing method and material. For example I could see SLS printed nylon working well for this application. Alternatively he could CNC some moulds and injection mould parts himself, that's also possible these days.
I think the 3-D printed parts are the best feature of this frame. It means one can have an infinite amount of cheap spare stress parts on hand, sacrificial parts if you will. I would try printing nylon or PETG (coke bottle plastic) and not PLA or ABS. Either way, it’s a good excuse to get a 3-D printer.
Nylon (potential even carbon fiber or glass fiber nylon) or pc should really be the only choices here. Abs and petg have so-so overall strength. Pla has crazy high strength, but is brittle and creeps quite badly.
Yes!! Quick release prop hubs are not safe!! I'm glad you feel the same tucker. I've been preaching to my friends that were running them to not. The time "saved" is not worth the possible departure of your prop
I've taken a little break from your channel, but came back and see how much your channel has grown and how good the production quality is now. Keep it up!
Definitely different from what you normally ride, but i was excited to see it fly so well, and impressed by the distance life on a charge. As always, thanks for sharing this content Tucker!
Remember that when a propellor is installed , the bolts need to be torque checked with a torque wrench in a specific sequence , to make sure all the bolts carry the same load . This prevents hardware falures .
@6:35 When you flipped that switch and it beeped... IT'S RUNNING! I'd really like to have that switch reachable from the harness but in anycase just consider that on=running! easy.
I wonder if it should make some kind of audible alert (something that wouldn’t get annoying) that reminds you that the system is armed. I also prefer state switches, not push button switches. I should be able to look at a switch and tell if it’s in the ON or OFF position, not some push and hold nonsense.
I don't mind taking off full weight (70lbs) if i know I'm going on a xc, but landing every flight still at 75lbs, that would be rough on the back, at least for me it would.
3d printed parts are not automatically weak, there are types of printers, filament, and processes that result in extreme strength, such as used in ultra expensive performance cars. Just the typical stuff people print are not using the high temp, higher end equipment. Especially given the constant vibration of a paramotor, I would have to agree with Tucker, in general.
Fatigue is a wild animal in a dynamic application (lots of vibration, harmonics). Even metals that meet theoretical strength targets with a safety factory can be destroyed by harmonics.
Compared to a molded part, they ARE much weaker, almost always. Tucker is right to complain. Paramotor flying puts your life at risk - no need to add to the risk factor by using parts that are inherently quite fragile compared to the equivalent molded or machined part.
Something like SLS nylon would have been fine here; that wouldnt crack; but this fdm cracked out of the box stuff is indeed a bit unbecoming of something you are going to fly in...
I love this. While commenting while listening, perhaps the timing for acceleration is to reduce blades contortions your weight? Or be more efficient which I'd imagine is likely. Weight depending, I'd consider having the battery below the motor to save space and depth if this could be configured to be packed easier and faster setup. I'd consider having the battery mounted around padded thin plastic to make insertion easier. The electrical connections are cool but same principal as a lawnmower or kettle switch, stubborn to remove and reconnect so I'd personally like a lock on it but with trad blade pins, you may not. Could be an option. Was weight mentioned without the batteries? My thoughts are probably common: which is more weight preferred, with an empty tank being cumbersome and could we use an ev charging point? If applicable, how could one reach an ev charger, say, xc? Noise reduction with electric? Power differences? Ive always agreed with that on 3d printing, it feels and looks cheap; they're for unseen things or prototypes. Bottle tops make a fantastic way to melt onto forms at home for relatively free, just need an oven or dehydrator, waffle iron anything flat and hot, with a rolling pin. Idk if printed metal is comparatively strong Thanks for sharing!
great move forward, the 'only' negative of watching you glide through the heavens was that funky, noisy brutal 2 stroke buzzing along, now you can reach pure nirvana
Been looking at the SP140 for awhile so I’m stoked for this series! If you ever need some replacement 3d printed parts for it hit me up. I have a 3d print farm and I’m in your area.
This review was so well produced! Can’t wait to see a bunch of these aloft all at the same time! I’m sure we’ll see electric-only PPG events in the near future!
Very cool! I love the simplicity of electric propulsion in general. I'd rather have a known lifespan of the battery compared to constant maintenance and repairs on a gas engine. In the long run, the cost is the same since batteries are expensive but you can't put a price on the time savings!!!
You're very trusting of that controller when you're connecting the battery while reaching through the prop! Very cool setup, though! Hoping to learn to fly one some day. :)
I used to work at the company that made the netting. Dyneema is a very strong material. We would test pull it at pretty high strengths. We testing one past the max, and it made a round straight bar turn into a wavy noodle.
Welcome to the world of tomorrow! Now you're cooking with electricity you get a lot of immediate advantages but still one or two small things that could come back to bite you. Start up and shut down are things of the past, no more handling fuel or dosing it with oil enjoy keeping your fingers clean, instant power response and a smooth torque curve, in theory longer engine life as electric motors last much longer than piston engines as they have less moving parts and little vibration. This looks like a great unit and I'm interested to see what you make of it.
Those 3d printed parts could be used to create molds so you can pour epoxy pieces. (This would be the proper use of 3D printing in a product like this, using 3D printed parts directly in a product like this isn't the idea I had in mind.) To make it act more like a gas motor, once it's armed, the motor should start spinning at an extremely low RPM just to give a highly visible and a sound indicator that the system is turned on. (Think the laws that require electric cars to have motor sounds or another indication of movement via sound.)
Maybe the manufacture can give you the print files and you could have them printed in metal using something like pcbway. Or have them get them printed in metal for you. Kinda sketchy to rely on cheap components when in the sky. Hopefully this comment reaches you!
Every time you I watch your videos and you break it down and explain I think to myself "I can learn to do this one day, Its so awesome." I can wait to see the comparison between gas and electric.
The guy drove the quad wide open throttle for over 2 mins, I believe it was a 400cc Polaris quad. Made me think if a hybrid metal/nylon 3d print might actually work, the top of the piston turned to goo and fouled the plug out, the rest of the piston was in good shape...
Pretty interesting - I'm not a pilot but interested in the space (maybe one day I can afford to get into it!). I'm curious if this is quiet enough that you don't need ear muffs during flight (I guess you'd still need a headset for a mic and radio?). I wonder how noisy this would be with those funky quiet looped props we are seeing in the drone world 🤔
It's a dream to own a paramotor and i'm hugely into EV paramotors. Been a subscriber and watcher from sidelines for many many years. Thank you for the content and i'm deeply keeping fingers crossed that luck of the draw chooses me for once :') If i win can't wait to grab a ozone mojo and fly into the skies in peaceee.
I understand your hesitation on the still standing prob when armed. My solution would be a slow turning of the motor, like a simulated idle or a warning sound like a from a slow EV
Don't plug in the battery to motor with your arms crossing the path of the prop! ALWAYS ASSUME THE WIRES ARE LIVE. Don't try to justify it because of the motor controller or w/e else, just assume it is live and you will stay alive.
I see a potential safety issue, I think the speed controller should be made to "beep" the motor (use it like a speaker to make an audible tone without actually moving the propeller) every few seconds when it is in armed mode and not spinning, so you know the throttle is live. Most hobby drones using Betaflight do this.
Darn, wish I waited buying the training chute til now. Would replace most of the 3d printed parts as we have a metal printer at work. Was concerned about the proximity of the battery cable to blades, but must be ok otherwise you would have said something. Looking forward to next vid.
Waiting for solid state batteries to make their way into openppg, probably another half decade or so. All I want is 30 minutes of powered flight from a battery that weighs 30lb or less. Enough to get up and find some thermals, get between thermals, and get back to where you started from without being so cumbersome that it takes away from the experience of flying
Love it....although not the 3D printed parts. I ordered one (would have been my 1st) but had to cancel before delivery (after waiting months on a preorder) as I didn't have space and funds were drying up, sadly, I remain grounded.
@@MichaelRei99 well staring with the first commercial paramotors like the konig powered machine and the DK whisper which I own every time a new model comes out 90percent of the time it’s always more efficient then the last when it comes to weight, thrust, and all around fly time including the huge leaps in two stroke tech and harness designs the fact that these electric paramotors are keeping up with powerful gas engines is amazing and I feel advance the sport
The 3D printed parts could be an advantage if you break anything and need a quick, near free replacement. Strength depends on material and slicer settings. If the material is PLA I'd almost immediately reprint and replace everything.
Plain PLA is actually very tough on its own, its one of the toughest materials you can print with. However, what would worry me is its low UV resistance. If those parts are PLA, they will become brittle and deform over time with exposure to the sun. ASA and ABS are typically a little weaker in most ways then PLA, but their UV resistance makes them probably the best choice for this application. Beefy slicer settings would make them plenty good enough.
There's a _lot_ of options for 3d-printed plastics; it looks like they chose a poor polymer and probably should have put in the effort to print in ASA or even nylon. Even better, they could have printed the prototype, then cast a mold, and then cast the finish part out of another plastic to get far stronger and smoother parts.
If the company switched over to resin 3D printed. It would look a lot better. It's still very functional the way it is. However, the resin 3D printed parts would give a more sleek and professional look.
I fly in remote locations where there is no place to plug in to charge the unit. So, if I want to fly more often I guess I would need to bring a gas powered generator with me to charge it between flights. Not sure how long it would take to charge it using a portable generator but it seems like having to bring a portable generator with me to charge the electric ppg would not only be an inconvenience but would also defeat the concept of "electric vs gas".
Tucker i take it its lithium battery how does it cope with cold tempretures at hight We all know lithium doesnt react well to cold its something worth looking into And making people aware of
I have worked with RC airplanes and other RCs my whole life, when you plugged the power in with your arm going through the blades, my heart dropped. I know nothing should ever happen, but sometimes electronics are wonky, be careful!
I came to make the same comment. You never know when a motor controller might malfunction and quickly send that blade into his arm.
@@johndelorean2284 same lol, my heart dropped too
yall do realize he is plugging power to the battery and not the actual operating system. he has to disconnect the power source to charge said power source.
@@sunraku79 yah that’s the scary part
@@sunraku79 he could do it from the other side I would for sure make a little spot in the net to reach through
FYI you can change the flight mode in the field without having to plug it into the computer. When the throttles arm just hold down the button and it'll switch modes.
Everything can be over ridden.
@@chrisanderson9157 no
Quanto custa completo ?
Welcome to the electric world! I got the first generation Open PPG SP 140 and I have loved it ever since. I love the reliability and how smooth it is. I can let off the throttle and just glide quietly. Hope you have a blast!
What do you think about using an electric paramotor in a flight school?
"Engine Management" is much simpler with electric propulsion. No pull start, no cold / warm start problems, ... So a flight student can concentrate more on handling the glider etc. and needs less attention to the engine. Less work load is exactly what is needed in this scenario. The limited flight time doesn't matter for your first small hops into the air.
I think it could be a really good school motor with the lightweight battery and on the "chill" mode.
@@TuckerGottinteresting that somebody mention this. i also just finished another version specially for schools with safety features build in, for students who are ready for their first flights. fall down protection, lightweight around 16kg, fast charging battery packs which are full in 10-15 min ect. a simple training unit for schools. inexpensive and robust.
It is better to learn with the type of equipment you will use later. It is easier to learn good habits from the start than to start with bad habits, then unlearn the bad habits to replace them with good ones. There is no point to learn to drive an automatic gearbox car if you plan to drive a manual.
I find electric stuff is less intimidatingly too for a beginner.. Not as much noise etc... I will say even being around dirtbikes and motorcycles growing up, my gas paramotor scared the sh** out of me for a while until I got use to it.
@@warrenkral6562 excellent point. i also agree that a rumbleling 2 stroke on my back was really not helping to get the nerves down. and electric ppg is very powerful but without the drama and the missing vibrations making it the perfect first flight training unit. i also say that first PPG flights should be electric in every school.
I love my electric paramotor. The simplicity and smoothness is just a game changer in my opinion. Still have my old gasoline motor for the few long flights however.
Like the early electric autos (or electric anything!), an ePPG is in the very early adoption phase and Open PPG should be congratulated on starting this whole transition. I’ve been following them for years and Paul has done a great job in bringing this unit to the PPG community. Not perfect by any means and most pilots may be turned off by the low flight times…but battery tech continues to progress and soon more and more pilots will wonder how they ever put up with 2 stroke noise, smell, oil mixing, constant maintenance, and engine outs (I’ve had 4). I hope this starts to encourage other players in the game. I do know of other pilots starting to put together electric units. Since I only fly around 30-50 minutes on each flight, I fully intend to get one. I would also love an add-on system to current frames as I would prefer something like the Fly Products Eclipse, Kangook (or Rider). Thanks for the review and will look forward to your discovery flights! Would love to know if anyone out there has had quality 3D parts fail?
I agree, it's really awesome to see everything Paul has done. There are some huge advantages over gas and it will only get better with time.
@@TuckerGott I also wanted to mention that those curious can visit the website and read a lot of feedback on the community forum. I love how open and helpful everyone is and quick to answer any questions. Thanks again!
My main question is the giveaway open to the uk? 😂I'll be having the adrenaline addict tee anyway... but I like to get my hopes up 😂
Seems that electric is better suited on a trike where you could theoretically add bigger batteries for longer flight times and still be able to launch, whereas adding weight to a standard PPG would make it almost impossible or at least impractical to launch. Double the battery and you have something with flight times worthy of spending the money on. Right now the flight time is just too short to justify imo.
@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 You will run into the issue of diminishing returns similar to (though not the same as) the rocket equation. More battery weight = need more energy output to maintain flight. Use more energy means getting less flight time/KWh total... it's a balancing act. *Can* you get more flight time on electric? Absolutely you can - there are now all-electric small planes out there - but it does mean you end up scaling everything up, including $$$.
Electric …. First thing that comes to mind .. is being able to power on and off. And ride the wind. In silence….
What happens if the battery dies in air does it land like some drones Or does it beep when it’s about to die
@@jonahreyes615 It’s a para glider. When the battery dies. You only have. 30 minutes of flight left,, maybe more depends on updrafts. You should think about what you wrote….
@@jonahreyes615 Once you're out of gas or battery power you just become a normal paraglider. You can tip toe in a landing with any amount of head wind.
@@jonahreyes615 This question reminds me of that one time I heard someone worried they wouldn't be able to see if the battery on their smart glasses ran out.
looks amazing. Literally the only constructive criticism i have is when u attach the battery you prob dont want ur arms in between the blades.
Dude I love how you break it down! Epic video man! Cant wait to see the next video on it!!
From a non paramotor pilot here, seems to me the biggest advantage of electric would be reliability and fewer parts to fail, combined with lower maintenance and minimal vibration and noise. Weight and flight time would be the biggest detractors. It's enticing to not have to worry about fuel stability, freshness, ethanol levels, carburetor tuning, engine starting, vibrating parts falling off, etc. If I ever tip my toe into this sport, pretty sure it will be with electric.
Spot on! I will be doing an in depth gas vs electric comparison.
You forgot the biggest concern , if the battery decides to go on fire mid flight.
@@MichaelRei99 Not worried about it. I have carried cell phones in my pocket with the identical battery technology for 20 years and never had any problem. The technology is matured and relatively safe. Most problems with batteries occur when they''re being charged with improper equipment or when they are ruptured with physical damage.
@@MichaelRei99ohh, you're not the brightest bulb in the box, aren't u? 🤣
@@elbigotesdelatiendaAnd why‘s that - oh great clueless battery guru? 🤦♂️
Very well made video Tucker! Thanks for all the information and entertainment. Happy to support Risky Biscuits for all the amazing content over the years, and for a chance to win that e-PPG! 🤩
Very much appreciated!
While I don't love the aesthetic of 3d printed parts, the ability to download the files and print them myself is amazing!
You wouldn't download an aircraft
I use 3d printers and don’t really mind the 3d printed parts, they can be very strong if printed properly and using the correct filament. I also like that the files are available and you can print extra parts when needed 👍
Looking forward to the first take off and flight review 🪂
What I gained from this is that the motor will mount to a standard frame if you want to switch existing equipment over to electric. In theroy you could just buy the motor, controller and battery. Would be cool to build a custom battery for this even tho the packaging they have is pretty sweet thats a wicked expensive battery.
i was curious whether the battery should really be considered expensive. it's $2,200 and could give you ~900, 30 min flights (before battery degradation makes continued usage untenable), so 10 years of flying? recharging costs could vary a lot depending on your location, but compared with gas, oil, engine maintenance & replacement parts etc., you might find it's actually cheaper for your total cost of ownership to go electric. but you're comparing that to much longer range/flight times with gas and the convenience of quickly refilling, which might be a dealbreaker depending on the type of flying you want to do.
I'm thinking positive on this giveaway 👍👍, good luck everyone!! Thanks Tucker for always giving back!! 🤟😎
Good luck to you!!
Thank you for doing this review! Can’t wait to see more videos with it. Also nice to see my comment asking to review this shown in the beginning of the video! 😀 as someone who hasn’t got into the sport yet, this setup intrigues me more than gas powered.
Been subscribed forever. Saw the new video show in my feed way late after not seeing one for at-least a year. I clicked the bell this time so I always see new Tucker Gott videos.
Thanks, can't wait for the future videos of this thing
I've been flying the sp140 for 2 years now, overall it's a pretty nice machine. I really like the new frame and swing arms! I've done quite a few videos on how this thing works and I'll be interested to see what your opinion is on this electric motor
do you find it to be easier? like as far as maintenance, storage, and running cost..
I have a SP140.... loving it❤️ welcome to Phoenix👍👌👍
Finally! Cant wait to watch you test it
I've been subscribed for about 2-3 years and have been really excited about flying soon. I've finally started a paramotor savings account and have been putting some cash in every paycheck. I live close to Aviator Paramotor and can't wait to start learning. I love your videos. Thank you for the inspiration!
3D printed parts aren't a problem per se if you choose the right printing method and material. For example I could see SLS printed nylon working well for this application. Alternatively he could CNC some moulds and injection mould parts himself, that's also possible these days.
I think the 3-D printed parts are the best feature of this frame. It means one can have an infinite amount of cheap spare stress parts on hand, sacrificial parts if you will. I would try printing nylon or PETG (coke bottle plastic) and not PLA or ABS. Either way, it’s a good excuse to get a 3-D printer.
Nylon (potential even carbon fiber or glass fiber nylon) or pc should really be the only choices here. Abs and petg have so-so overall strength. Pla has crazy high strength, but is brittle and creeps quite badly.
Yes!! Quick release prop hubs are not safe!! I'm glad you feel the same tucker. I've been preaching to my friends that were running them to not. The time "saved" is not worth the possible departure of your prop
I've been subbed to your channel for a long time and I got to say its so awesome seeing what you built out of this channel dude
I've taken a little break from your channel, but came back and see how much your channel has grown and how good the production quality is now. Keep it up!
Definitely different from what you normally ride, but i was excited to see it fly so well, and impressed by the distance life on a charge. As always, thanks for sharing this content Tucker!
Remember that when a propellor is installed , the bolts need to be torque checked with a torque wrench in a specific sequence , to make sure all the bolts carry the same load . This prevents hardware falures .
@6:35 When you flipped that switch and it beeped... IT'S RUNNING! I'd really like to have that switch reachable from the harness but in anycase just consider that on=running! easy.
I wonder if it should make some kind of audible alert (something that wouldn’t get annoying) that reminds you that the system is armed. I also prefer state switches, not push button switches. I should be able to look at a switch and tell if it’s in the ON or OFF position, not some push and hold nonsense.
I don't mind taking off full weight (70lbs) if i know I'm going on a xc, but landing every flight still at 75lbs, that would be rough on the back, at least for me it would.
3d printed parts are not automatically weak, there are types of printers, filament, and processes that result in extreme strength, such as used in ultra expensive performance cars. Just the typical stuff people print are not using the high temp, higher end equipment. Especially given the constant vibration of a paramotor, I would have to agree with Tucker, in general.
Fatigue is a wild animal in a dynamic application (lots of vibration, harmonics). Even metals that meet theoretical strength targets with a safety factory can be destroyed by harmonics.
He said one of them was cracked.
Compared to a molded part, they ARE much weaker, almost always. Tucker is right to complain. Paramotor flying puts your life at risk - no need to add to the risk factor by using parts that are inherently quite fragile compared to the equivalent molded or machined part.
@@SwingingPythonsyes, but from the transport
Nonetheless not a good sign in general ^^
Something like SLS nylon would have been fine here; that wouldnt crack; but this fdm cracked out of the box stuff is indeed a bit unbecoming of something you are going to fly in...
I love this. While commenting while listening, perhaps the timing for acceleration is to reduce blades contortions your weight? Or be more efficient which I'd imagine is likely. Weight depending, I'd consider having the battery below the motor to save space and depth if this could be configured to be packed easier and faster setup. I'd consider having the battery mounted around padded thin plastic to make insertion easier. The electrical connections are cool but same principal as a lawnmower or kettle switch, stubborn to remove and reconnect so I'd personally like a lock on it but with trad blade pins, you may not. Could be an option. Was weight mentioned without the batteries? My thoughts are probably common: which is more weight preferred, with an empty tank being cumbersome and could we use an ev charging point? If applicable, how could one reach an ev charger, say, xc? Noise reduction with electric? Power differences?
Ive always agreed with that on 3d printing, it feels and looks cheap; they're for unseen things or prototypes. Bottle tops make a fantastic way to melt onto forms at home for relatively free, just need an oven or dehydrator, waffle iron anything flat and hot, with a rolling pin. Idk if printed metal is comparatively strong
Thanks for sharing!
great move forward, the 'only' negative of watching you glide through the heavens was that funky, noisy brutal 2 stroke buzzing along, now you can reach pure nirvana
Been looking at the SP140 for awhile so I’m stoked for this series! If you ever need some replacement 3d printed parts for it hit me up. I have a 3d print farm and I’m in your area.
This review was so well produced! Can’t wait to see a bunch of these aloft all at the same time! I’m sure we’ll see electric-only PPG events in the near future!
Good stuff my dude, loved all the info. Crazy that just another battery is $2200. Definitely already enjoying this series
That XT60 connector is huge!! Really cool paramotor, and I think electric is the way to go!
Breaking it down! Love this and look forward to learning a lot more! These videos will influence a few choices I think! I know I am watching.
Very cool! I love the simplicity of electric propulsion in general. I'd rather have a known lifespan of the battery compared to constant maintenance and repairs on a gas engine. In the long run, the cost is the same since batteries are expensive but you can't put a price on the time savings!!!
Yeah and if the battery decides to go on fire mid flight that would be pleasant.
@@MichaelRei99 Why would the battery randomly go on fire?
@@maxrei8786 IDK why do batteries randomly go on fire?
You're very trusting of that controller when you're connecting the battery while reaching through the prop! Very cool setup, though! Hoping to learn to fly one some day. :)
That would make a sick ceiling fan !
Facts. Insane circulation.
I was thinking lawnmower actually.
Epic dude!!! The shirts are so dope! Epic video man watching now! Super stoked!!! Sick you got the three blade on there!!!!
Thanks man! Pretty proud of these designs.
@@TuckerGott you got the best shirts out! Stoked to get the new shirts man!!
I used to work at the company that made the netting. Dyneema is a very strong material. We would test pull it at pretty high strengths. We testing one past the max, and it made a round straight bar turn into a wavy noodle.
bro, you look jacked, keep it up
3D Printed it's a wise thing for small production. You can print upgrades and mods in a few hours
Welcome to the world of tomorrow! Now you're cooking with electricity you get a lot of immediate advantages but still one or two small things that could come back to bite you. Start up and shut down are things of the past, no more handling fuel or dosing it with oil enjoy keeping your fingers clean, instant power response and a smooth torque curve, in theory longer engine life as electric motors last much longer than piston engines as they have less moving parts and little vibration. This looks like a great unit and I'm interested to see what you make of it.
Those 3d printed parts could be used to create molds so you can pour epoxy pieces. (This would be the proper use of 3D printing in a product like this, using 3D printed parts directly in a product like this isn't the idea I had in mind.)
To make it act more like a gas motor, once it's armed, the motor should start spinning at an extremely low RPM just to give a highly visible and a sound indicator that the system is turned on. (Think the laws that require electric cars to have motor sounds or another indication of movement via sound.)
Whoever designs your merch does a great job
Maybe the manufacture can give you the print files and you could have them printed in metal using something like pcbway. Or have them get them printed in metal for you. Kinda sketchy to rely on cheap components when in the sky. Hopefully this comment reaches you!
Pretty cool.. thanks for doing this
looking forward to this series..... electric changed the RC world off basically being much more reliable. and the abilty to just charge and go.
Every time you I watch your videos and you break it down and explain I think to myself "I can learn to do this one day, Its so awesome." I can wait to see the comparison between gas and electric.
The guy drove the quad wide open throttle for over 2 mins, I believe it was a 400cc Polaris quad. Made me think if a hybrid metal/nylon 3d print might actually work, the top of the piston turned to goo and fouled the plug out, the rest of the piston was in good shape...
I would see about getting those 3d printed parts made from cnc aluminum
Should provide better performance. More torque, faster torque response.
With the 3D files available you could even send them off to be machined if you want that so that is cool
@Tucker Gott - I can see the work in the gym is paying off! Looking good my man! Great content as always!
Get 4 of them and make a jetson drone - sit on it.
Are we talking about paramotors here or…
Pretty interesting - I'm not a pilot but interested in the space (maybe one day I can afford to get into it!).
I'm curious if this is quiet enough that you don't need ear muffs during flight (I guess you'd still need a headset for a mic and radio?). I wonder how noisy this would be with those funky quiet looped props we are seeing in the drone world 🤔
Seems a HUGE plus to 3d printed parts is being able to print them at home, don't have to order and then wait for it to ship out.
Aaaaah! We need part 2!
Man these new neighbors have to be giving some seriously crazy looks 😂😂
probably wondering why he strapped the lawn mower to his back and how he is supposed to cut the grass that way
It's a dream to own a paramotor and i'm hugely into EV paramotors. Been a subscriber and watcher from sidelines for many many years. Thank you for the content and i'm deeply keeping fingers crossed that luck of the draw chooses me for once :') If i win can't wait to grab a ozone mojo and fly into the skies in peaceee.
Neighbor: Could you leaf blow my lawn while you test that thing?
The reply below from "TuckerRGott" is a fake. Don't respond to him.
yeah like peter stripol plane mk4 good upgrade
Can't wait to see it fly! Looking forward to the upcoming videos 🤘
I understand your hesitation on the still standing prob when armed. My solution would be a slow turning of the motor, like a simulated idle or a warning sound like a from a slow EV
Don't plug in the battery to motor with your arms crossing the path of the prop! ALWAYS ASSUME THE WIRES ARE LIVE. Don't try to justify it because of the motor controller or w/e else, just assume it is live and you will stay alive.
I see a potential safety issue, I think the speed controller should be made to "beep" the motor (use it like a speaker to make an audible tone without actually moving the propeller) every few seconds when it is in armed mode and not spinning, so you know the throttle is live. Most hobby drones using Betaflight do this.
That thing is sweet
Darn, wish I waited buying the training chute til now. Would replace most of the 3d printed parts as we have a metal printer at work. Was concerned about the proximity of the battery cable to blades, but must be ok otherwise you would have said something. Looking forward to next vid.
I would be interested in an objective comparison of noise. If you could actually measure decibels compared to ICE.
Good call, that would be an interesting test.
Waiting for solid state batteries to make their way into openppg, probably another half decade or so. All I want is 30 minutes of powered flight from a battery that weighs 30lb or less. Enough to get up and find some thermals, get between thermals, and get back to where you started from without being so cumbersome that it takes away from the experience of flying
Love it....although not the 3D printed parts.
I ordered one (would have been my 1st) but had to cancel before delivery (after waiting months on a preorder) as I didn't have space and funds were drying up, sadly, I remain grounded.
The advances in this sport is really amazing.
And how exactly does it advance the sport??
@@MichaelRei99 well staring with the first commercial paramotors like the konig powered machine and the DK whisper which I own every time a new model comes out 90percent of the time it’s always more efficient then the last when it comes to weight, thrust, and all around fly time including the huge leaps in two stroke tech and harness designs the fact that these electric paramotors are keeping up with powerful gas engines is amazing and I feel advance the sport
Got my first lesson booked in for this sunday thanks to your videos! Cheers budddyyy 😁
Dang that mt-10 is sick, dream bike
Idk what they printed those parts from but some of the filaments are very strong, especially carbon filled nylon.
Happy birthday bro! 😎🎂
Love it! Can't wait to see the follow-up videos!
Every time I turn in to a video you have changed so much
The 3D printed parts could be an advantage if you break anything and need a quick, near free replacement. Strength depends on material and slicer settings. If the material is PLA I'd almost immediately reprint and replace everything.
Until something cracks while you're in the air. Can't just pull over and call a tow truck.
Facts.
Plain PLA is actually very tough on its own, its one of the toughest materials you can print with. However, what would worry me is its low UV resistance. If those parts are PLA, they will become brittle and deform over time with exposure to the sun. ASA and ABS are typically a little weaker in most ways then PLA, but their UV resistance makes them probably the best choice for this application. Beefy slicer settings would make them plenty good enough.
@@brettzolstick989They usually fly early morning or late afternoon so UV shouldn’t be a problem.
@@MichaelRei99 UV isnt a time and place issues. It's an issue that builds with time depending on storage, transport, and usage.
Great breakdown.
How easy is it to mount this system on a different frame?
There's a _lot_ of options for 3d-printed plastics; it looks like they chose a poor polymer and probably should have put in the effort to print in ASA or even nylon. Even better, they could have printed the prototype, then cast a mold, and then cast the finish part out of another plastic to get far stronger and smoother parts.
If the company switched over to resin 3D printed. It would look a lot better. It's still very functional the way it is. However, the resin 3D printed parts would give a more sleek and professional look.
Finally, you buy an electric paramotor ! Was waiting for this review !
As an e bike owner, I'm loving what you're doing with this. Can't wait to see it fly.
I'm not sure, did you mention the 3d printed parts? Did you like them or no? Could you mention it again.
thing is pretty sweet, id safety those prop bolts though. they're probably seeing more torque than a conventional recip. 10+ year A&P here.
I fly in remote locations where there is no place to plug in to charge the unit. So, if I want to fly more often I guess I would need to bring a gas powered generator with me to charge it between flights. Not sure how long it would take to charge it using a portable generator but it seems like having to bring a portable generator with me to charge the electric ppg would not only be an inconvenience but would also defeat the concept of "electric vs gas".
"Lost in the Dark" by Aiyo
(for all of you who wanted to get your superspy vibe on)
Tucker i take it its lithium battery how does it cope with cold tempretures at hight
We all know lithium doesnt react well to cold its something worth looking into
And making people aware of
Can’t wait to see first flight
bussin on a full stack (no cap) fr fr ong
I am in the process ofconverting an ego lawnmower into a paramotor. I am excited to try it
Tucker, about how long is an average flight for you? The flightime per charge will be a critical dataset. Thanks in advance.
It's hard to say an average for me. I am either going for a quick 15 minute flight or an hour plus long cross country.
Я думаю для трайка сама то ,можно и батарею побольше установить.
This has been my dads dream to own. I might haft to share this with him.