Harley Low Rider S 117 Stage 2!
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- Harley Low Rider S 117 with Stage 2! How fast is the 117ci Milwaukee 8 with a stage 2 installed? Check it out!
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Should be called a stage 25! Cuz Chris the master level tech worked his magic on it!!!
then next year called a stage 26 (then you get people comparing their stage 25 and stage 26 and so on XD
I got a 2021 Softail Standard that i put on a dyno and got stage 1 kit, have 91HP and 150NM in that bike now.
That’s an awesome bike to have as a blank canvas! Options are endless !
Great bike!
Wwwwwoooowwww that's killer,but I wanna know what we're u guys talking about a rpm limit and a mph limit,will after you guys talk that off the engine will that affect the extended warranty thru HD😂😂😂😂😂 BY THE WAY LIKE TO SEE A VIDEO ABOUT THE SAME THING STAGE 2 B4 AND AFTER WITH A 114..😊😊😊
I have a street glide ST 2022 and would upgrade it to stage II, should I go with a S&S475C or 475G?
Best 2into1 exhaust for 2022 117 m8? Preferably on the louder side
Looking forward to more 22 fxlrs tune videos. Definitely interested in seeing other 2-1 pipe and cam numbers.
Bad ass! I'd love to learn more about the risers and gauge relocation on that bike.
What do you wanna know?
The 475 cam was my favorite cam choice when I was looking and have no regrets with my choice
too small
Man, that bike sounds good! Always enjoy seeing Chris in his element. The mechanics episodes have gotten increasingly interesting to me, and I really enjoy attempting to learn what I can from them.
I also noticed the giveaway Road Glide had some blue and gold additions to it. Lookin snazzy!
you wont learn much here pal that bike sound bad for a harley, put a real pipe on that bike and it will sounf right
Got me excited because just today I got the ball rolling for a stage 2 upgrade on my new 2022 Street Glide ST M8 117ci. Zippers Red Shift 468 cam kit, SE Tune (to not void warranty), TAB slip-ons w/Zombie baffles. Psyched!
Anyone explain why the 114 is getting as good or better numbers than the 117? I was expecting 120 hp and 130 TQ at least.
I really want this answer too
I've heard that the heavy breather elite or whatever ita called that comes stock on the 2022 117ci is very restrictive and can rob 7 to 10 hp. (Don't shoot thr messenger just what I'm hearing in forums.) Maybe thay accounts for the difference in power between the 114 stage 2 and 117 stage 2?
First ride on a Milwaukee 8 with a Stage II is a pucker moment. Ask me how I know.
Lol, definitely!
Loved the low rider I rode today sporty s made me almost soil myself 😳
Is it because you’ve never rode a fast motorcycle?
@@chazarkansas1366 I don’t know if you directed that at me, but yeah I started with a sportster 1200. It was like going from a BB gun to 50 cal lol
@@kylecorcoran8028 notice how your name isnt tagged. Therefore im replying to the OP
Welp.... I have a 2021 with a 131 and I'm waiting to finish the warranty to change the cam... one more year to go!
What cam?....475?
Dynojet technology combined with Chris/Sickwideglide, is a match made in Heaven.
(Drop in a little "horsepower dust", and it's the whole package!
@blockhead do I see hand tattoos now bro?! 🙌🏻
Yezzir! 🤘🏼
Another great video. Glad your channel is going awesome. First of all I love the direction of Harley. The Sportster S and Pan America are outstanding. Finally the 117 into a smaller lighter bike, thx Harley. I think Harley has seen what happened in 2008 with the Big 3 moving from fleet sales to world sales. They went Bankrupt trying to catch up as they waited too long. GM in 2008 bailout, Ford 2009 bailout. I have owned 30 bikes, never a Harley almost bought a Fat Bob 2 years ago but bought a Super Duke Instead. Less weight, more horsepower, stability control, traction control, Abs standard. I am over 60. I can not do 800 pound bikes. If the Sportster S was available That may have changed my mind as lighter, more horsepower and standard electronic aids. I raced professional motocross and flat track in the 60-70’s. I still want safety aids as I am not constantly 100% focused at times. RDRS should be standard on all Harley’s not an option on touring bikes. It’s for safety. Ducati, BMW, KTM, offer stability control standard. Stability control mandated 2012 for cars. Euro 5 requires TC. Harley would also benefit with electronic suspension. Look forward to next video.
Harley in Alaska doing tunes on 22’s. Holler at your boy!
i have the same 2022 bike with the same exhaust and i wanna do the same stage 2 on mine!
Can I drive down my 22 low rider s from Massachusetts for a tune? I installed a 2-1 but can’t get a tune
Are you having problems finding a shop to do the tune? I installed a cam and waiting on on D&D exhaust and my dealership is telling me they won't have a problem doing the tune but everything I hear is making me nervous.
More than welcome to come on down! Fill out the form on our site and we’ll get you on the schedule 🤘🏼 www.BlockheadGarage.com
For 22’ models, Harley changed some things and they don’t tune like models before 2020. As per what Dynojet told us, we’re 1 of 3 shops currently tuning 2022 models bc of this change.
Block, let's see some other cams...please please
I consistently see the same 4-5 cam swaps. I'd love to see you do a MaxCell 821, CR483 or something from Ward Performance, or T-Man
Badass I can't wait to stage 2 on my 22 lowrider s
my top speed on the highway with a stock '23 117 was over 125mph..... with a stage 1 Power Vision 4 tune - straight drag pipes - stock "HF" air cleaner I got it to 131mph with a little room to go ;)
Like the new (I think) tattoo!
Thanks!
YO DID YOU ACTUALLY GOT THE HAND TATTED
Chris seems to have got some new tatts as well
Yezzir! And yeah Chris has some new ones also, haha
Not a fan of the graphs that go backwards. 2 values for "Y" is not a mathematical function. Sorta confusing when they do that. I.e. moving right on X axis, there should never be to numbers in the "Y"....essentially means zip.
Hasn’t the 117 lowrider s all ready have a cam installed greet video.
Those are horrible numbers. The 2017 I had, wish I never sold... just had red thunder exhaust tuned 119hp 121 tq.
What's going on?
Another satisfied client from the Blockhead garage, I c. Cody's his name, huh?
Stage 2 is the best dollar per dollar kit.
FuelMoto is currently tuning the ‘21s. I had them build me a map for my RG.
To each their own...but seriously, skinny jeans and Harley's should never mix!!!
I can confirm not a lot of people are tuning 21 & later softail’s. I’ve been told it’s due to DOT regulation.
Thats AWESOME....also the viewers need to consider that your Dyno is super reserved compared to most of the dealer dyno's...(dunno how the dealers find all these "magic" dynos) On the dyno that Chris used to use, that thing would have made another 10 hp and ft-lbs of torque..LOLZ. FYI...my dyno guy is definitely doing 2021/2022 bikes...
Another 🥶 build with @Sickwideglide
I have a 22 FXLRS with the S&S 475 kit and D&D SOFTAIL M8 LOW CAT UP-SWEPT EXHAUST and it gets 135 max lbs at 3.9 RPM.
This is what I wanted to see… I heard blockhead talking about going with D&D in the future. I have a tbr turnout pipe on my ‘20 FXLRS and just ordered a D&D bob cat. 10-12 week wait😣 but comparing same mods looks like you got 10 more ft lbs of torque with those pipes. Seems like it’ll be well worth the wait!
@@ryantidwell19 not only more hp and torque, but a better progression of power and torque across the entire RPM range.
Anyone know what sissy bar is on thay FXLRS? Love the coiled metal look.
Love these videos. When I eventually get my hands on a Harley I'll be able to remove more than 1 bolt 😂
I've been watching your videos ever since I bought my 2020 Lowrider S in November of 2020. And I enjoyed watching your build series on Goldzilla. My question is how do the horsepower and torque numbers of the stage 2 117 compare to the all Harley 131 kit for the Lowrider S?
Man I envy some people. I’d love to go into a 2:1 but don’t want the warranty voided.
Would you or Chris be able to elaborate on wether going 2:1 with the Screamin’ Eagle turner will actually void your powertrain warranty or not?
I see that S&S makes a 50 state legal 2:1 with the cat built in. If a normal 2:1 would void your warranty would you be ok with the 50 state legal S&S because it has a cat built in leaving the warranty intact?
I trust your opinions more than others online and Chris with 25 years experience and being a Master Tech speaks a lot for itself.
Thank you 🙏 love the videos as well.
Talk to your dealer and see if they will work with you ... I just have to remind mine DO NOT PLUG IT IN...
@@njachtschitz yeah could do that but I’d rather play on the side of caution and not mess with it. All it takes is 1 person to plug it in accidentally because they missed the note and your done.
@@KamberBCT the M8 is an amazing engine, and with the cam kit you replace its arguable weak point, the oil pump and cam plate. you will be fine...
If you have the screamin eagle tuner with it, it shouldnt. Even if your local dealer says yes it would just put the stock back on if you need warranty work.
I have a 2022 low rider a with the 117 and just got the same pipe, what tuner do you recommend geting
Reason I haven't done a stage 2 on my 22 fxlrs yet is I can't find anyone to install/tune here in Cali cuz its illegal/can't get parts without some workaround. If anybody here knows someone who can lmk 🤙🏽
Workaround: Leave Cali 👀
@@BlockheadMoto lol I would if I could brotha
@@hengloose drive to another state for the weekend and have the work done there. Nevada or Arizona should work I'd imagine.
There are plenty of performance shops that would do this job in California. I live in CA and have D&D 2into1 and 475c S&S kit. Go to a few shops and ask around. I guarantee they will either do it or point you in the right direction.
@@njachtschitz thx bro 🤙🏽
Great video. I love those bikes. Also I think the owner just inspired me to take my fatass to the gym.
Bike sounds mean Fam. Great share. 🤙🏾🔥
I need to ride over and check you guys out . Always great vids
Good to know just picked up a 22 fxlrs, thanks block !
Congrats! Come see us when you’re ready to throw on some performance 🤘🏼
You are watching a FREAK at work. Chris all brains bruh
Everyone and their mom is looking for info on risers that work with the new gauge. What are those risers on this one?
I literally wrote a parts list for 9.5" risers and it was deleted.
My 2020 SGS 114 to 117 stage 3 kit got 114 HP 119 TQ
Moonshine worked their magic now it is getting 124hp 131 TQ
Nice! What did Moonshine do exactly?
So I have a TC 103 and kind of confused about the stages will do? Like for the 107 Milwaukee 8 can go from the 107 to like 131. So when I look it up it still says a 103 after all 4 stages.
107 can get 128cui kit for, 114 and 117 you can get 131 kit for. Stage one is Better airfilter, more open exhaust, and a tune. Stage to is a cam change plus all you do in stage 1. Stage 3 is change cylinders pluss everything from stage 1 and 2, Stage 4 is the same as stage 3, but more aggressive, cam, comp, tune and so on.
@@kongebilj193 so the 103 stays a 103? It’s just more aggressive and faster?
If you put a stage 1 or 2 kit on the bike its still a 103, but you get more power. Stage 3 or 4 then you get more cui and a lot more power.
Stage 1: ruclips.net/video/gPUnKOuaz5s/видео.html
Stage 2: ruclips.net/video/OIHehvxG0xk/видео.html
Stage 3: Everything in 1&2 plus big bore cylinders and pistons
Stage 4: Everything in 1-3 plus heads and throttle body
So... Block's gonna go to MMI to learn to work on metrics? ;)
How long do you sit on a tattoo before you actually get it done?
Not sure what you mean, like how long do I think about what to get? Usually a few months to a few years, depends what it is 👍🏼
Sounds F_______ Nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So didn’t harley say 125ft torque? Or am I wrong?
Jessssssuuuussss that thing sounds insane
H-D and most mfgs measure power at the crank, whereas we’re measuring power at the wheel, after the drivetrain. There’s usually about a 15% loss of power through the drivetrain 👍🏼
@@BlockheadMoto gotcha ok. None the less man sounds freaking mean.
No premiere! That sucks. But at least we got a video 😁
That dip in the torque isn't cool. TBR pipes aren't the best.
Could you do a review of your rokform case and mount
Another satisfied customer. Great video!
Just started following you a couple of days ago and watched your learning to ride videos. Took on an interest to ride within the last monthI left a comment on there thanking you, but just want to say it again.
You’re an awesome teacher, and I am happy to announce my basic rider course is next week and I’ll be making my purchase within the next month!
Thank you once again for breaking everything down and making it not only easier to understand, but giving confidence while you do! Godspeed friend!
Thanks rjames, glad the videos helped!
I'm got the SE stage 2 torque cam kit done to my 21 street bob to keep my warranty. I mentioned I was looking at getting a TBR 2 into 1 or cobra el diablo exhaust next and my dealership said they would void my warranty if I did????? I'm confused and irritated since my bike is warrantied till 2025 and I used SE parts and tuner! Is it just dealership discretion or what? I have to go back to that dealership for maintenance since I got a maintenance package thro them too.
Email another dealership. If the answer is different you have that in writing.
That shouldn’t be.. call another dealer
It’s usually based entirely on the dealership preference. Some are cool about it, some aren’t. Sounds like yours isn’t, so I’d find another if possible 👍🏼
@@BlockheadMoto the issue I have is I bought a maintenance package at that particular dealership and I'm afraid if I put the full exhaust on and they see it when I get the oil changed and spokes tightened they said they would flag it?? Idk how they can flag it I thought that was tied to the electronics in the bike and it would be flagged for using a non approved tuner. I have the SE harley-davidson tuner... I just don't understand. Not cool it's that last thing I have to do to complete my Club style build. I have slip ons right now
@@ianloyd6384 the issue I have is if I have a non refundable maintenance package I bought at that particular dealership so I'm afraid if they see the exhaust they will flag my bike which I don't understand how they can do that when I'm using the SE approved tuner on the bike. Thought the electronics would be flagged no the hardware. Really annoying 😒
My dyna street bob 2015 has Stage 1, and from 2000 to 3000 rpms has diecel popping. Is there a bad tuning? I love that pop but, I don’t want to damage my bike.
You can tune it out, but it’s not hurting the bike 👍🏼
What’s the sissy bars on the bike. Where they from
you Guys are So Cool I wish i can get a kit in my softail
Anybody know of a place in CA tuning the 2022?
Just out of curiosity, are you guys able to upgrade the scout motor beyond what was done in the vs video series? I love my scout and would love to slap some more power into it.
Thats not a 2 into 1 dip. Thats a shorty pipe dip.
Ohhhh yeahhhh block with the new hand tatt lookin sweet
Would like to see a dyno with a twin exit exhaust and sounds
If I did not live in idaho then I would 100% bring my LRS in lol
Minneapolis is the furthest we’ve had so far I think!
Do you lose your engine warranty with this cam and tuner
So still less HP than a 600cc Japanese bike?
Bro, I remember when you first got the sporty. So happy to see you doing so well, for real
Thanks man!
Would this set uo work on the 23 ST also?
I want the 22 low rider S so bad!
Got to ditch that tbr pipe.
I actually thought it would have been alot higher..The Dyna lowrider s 117 is getting more power with a twin cam motor..People are getting higher numbers with different cams in the 114 M8's so I don't understand why it wasn't alot higher 🤷♂️
Agreed, I've seen 118 hp and 130lbs of torque with a 114ci & 475 cam. I'm running a 114 and 475 cam with bassani pipes and make 110hp and 120lbs of torque only because I have my baffle out.
@@mason5545 my buddy is making 131 ft lbs of torque on his 22 RGS with the 114. Actually disappointed with the 22 Low Rider S final numbers.
Anyone in Northern CA that you'd recommend to do this? I just purchased a 2023 Lowrider S with the 117. I come from sport bikes and I love this bike, but it feels like it's holding back a bit.
Missing the Fun Stuff. Gromventures etc. The Bike Shop is boring at some Point. Just my Opinion. No Offense intended. I am aware you focusing on your Business right now...
Anyone know what sissy bar hes running?
Finally the good content!
was jus thinking that.
Nice new “job stopper” on your hand mate.
Thanks. Asked my boss if I could get it and he was cool with it 😅
can anyone tell me what risers are on this bike? I wanna grab a 2022 FXLRS but I cant find any risers compatible with the new gauge positioning.
Saving to update mine
Curious - if you don't mind providing the details. Stage 2 with tune would run about how much on this ride?
Sigh.....and just like that, CA just seems that much farther away from you guys 😞
How much of a MPG hit should he expect from that setup over stock? I’m looking to do the same setup on my 2023 Street Glide ST 117.
Where is the shop out of again what state
I have a 2019 fxbb 107, dnd fat cat exhaust, hpi air cleaner, s&s 475 cam. On paper dyno 112hp 124trq
Looks awesome!
We had an old victory 96ci make 129whp/120 tq. (I have the actual Dyno Sheet to prove it). Just a cam/intake/tune.
Odd to see such low numbers out of this 117.
Those aren't low numbers and we are not watching victory videos. But cool........
@@donaldpeck3192 yes they are low numbers get real
@@billgonzales8978 ya ok. Get a life .
The reason for the lack of tuning has to do with the ecm being unable to recieve or understand wideband signal. EPA and harley things.. little bird told me.
Dont believe me. Then go try to get an auto tune module for a 21 or 22.
I just love to ride, I am have never been interested in bore kits etc. On my new 107 2017 Street Glide special up from my 2006 Road King I do a stage one and gear cam kit that’s it aside from adding full LED lighting. Now I did install a fan assisted oil cooler on my 2017 to help with cooling. I already paid for the bike and not going to pay twice.
Hi all. What is it like to ride a sprung seat bobber bike compared too, well a `normal` bike. Comfy or raw, distance doable or no way jose.
Replies from owners very welcome.
tell us how much all of this costs..
Have you ever had any issues with this exhaust? I hear alot of bad reviews on them from people who ride hard and also is this exhaust as bas as everyone says for making hp/tq? Compared to others like d&d, stealth, hpi if so are we talking minimal numbers or 20+ hp?
I got a weird question for you. 2018 Road King with the M8 of course but I got cheap slip ons from a buddy from his 2011 Streetglide. As you know the size of the exhausts are different. So what effects if any by putting the smaller slip on from a Twin Cam with a reducer to the M8 bigger pipe on the right side? Would it be harmful to the engine, just effect performance or sound? For anyone that will comment and say why I did that.... Because I'm not made of money and that was one of the slip ons I was really interested in and I thought for half the price I could make it work. 🤷♂Just interested to see what some professionals thought.
What cam did you use for the stage two setup.
He said S&S 475
Sounds Beastly!! You have successfully gone to Plaid!! You should buckle up Sir. Ahh Buckle this.. 💪
Hey BLOCKHEAD. Was just wandering if the customer changed his bars and if he did, were there any issues with the gauge?
Would you mind explaining the whole maps issue with 2021 and over softail’s? I’ve been told there are no maps to tune a 2021 softail slim? So can I stage it as long as I’m willing to void my warranty?