2022 TOYOTA TUNDRA ENGINE REBUILD IS COMPLETED! (TAKE A LOOK)
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2024
- In this video i will be showcasing the 22 Tundra we have in the shop that had a main bearing failure. We installed a short block, and a few other major components. Take a look and let me know what you guys think, feel free to comment if you have any questions.
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I worked at a Toyota dealership 20+ years ago When I just got a out of high School the older mechanics taught me how to diagnose and replace parts but the Toyota now have more tech than I worked on them back then but you did a very good job of replacing the short block and putting it back together runs like new
Thank you.
Couldn’t imagine being a Toyota mechanic right now. Do this massive job over and over day after day. It’s coming.
Probably a good time if you need overtime. I have no idea how they are going to tackle 102k engine swaps -Probably better off handing new trucks out.
No worse than other skilled repetitive workers
Resale values HAVE BEEN affected. Dealers are refusing to take these trucks in trade. Owners are unable to sell them, but most importantly THERE IS NO ESTABLISHED FIX!! Kudos to you as a service tech!
Good takes, good video.
Thanks!
thanks for the detailed update. If toyota said replace the short block it seems to point to a manufacturing/assembly error... otherwise why re-install the "same" part... great job on your repairs ❤
I disagree. In 10 years the 2022 will be avoided at all costs, and only sale at a discount
Thank you for your honesty……you are rare.
Thank you for sharing all this information with honesty.
Like you said, you need experienced mechanics to do these short block replacements. I think Toyota is asking for more problems by just replacing the short block. There are too many critical parts of the engine to be scattered across the Dealership for days while being repaired. There is barely enough room in most service departments to handle normal operations. Now I might have to trust them to scatter my Truck all over their floor. Toyota should at least simplify the process a little by supplying a complete new engine without debris in it. Toyota also should be extending the warranty on this engine for everyone. As long as you change your oil regularly there isn't any reason for that engine to fail. I've heard most Toyota engines run well past 300,000 miles. All I know is I bought a Sienna at 94,000 and traded it in at 127,000 miles on a 2024 Tundra.
Thank you again. I enjoy your videos
Thank you. I appreciate the feedback, and we are all hoping for a complete engine as well.
You are good at this keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Very good,the short block that you installed it come with a main bearing upgrade,I"did work for Honda dealer,we remplace a lot of transmission and timing belt in recalls...
Good video
Well, Done Sir! Sweet!
It is a miracle that any one person could remember what goes where & when.
My dealership just got 2 in for the same issue.
They had better hire on extra mechanics, cause there is going to be a flood soon.
Only 100,000 to go. WOW!
Thank you.
Strange that Toyota is not issuing crate engine replacements..even Ford would not stoop that low. How much can they possibly be saving by not doing this right?
I don’t see Toyota replacing 100,000 engines
I agree on the long term, the depreciation is probably going to level out to normal, but for the short term, next 2-3 years, trucks coming off lease and people buy lightly used, it's definitely going to take a hit. Over time people will forget, especially when it's down to a nearly flat deprecation curve 10+ years from now.
Do you know what’s that recalls on the first generation Toyota Tundra?
As i understand it, the robots used to mil the crankshaft bearings were not flushing the debris correctly or sufficiently. The milling/shavings/debris will not leave the bearing journals and corrupt the long block/upper engine.
What kind of valve cover did they use on this model? Plastic? Cuz the old gen uses aluminum
Jr.
Thanks… what is your take on this new platform. Like it ? Or prefer the V8 ?
The V8 is proven and tested, so it's easy for me to go with the V8. But what i will say is that the new twin turbo V6 is not a bad design at all. If you look at the design of the engine itself, it's pretty much a 2GR-FKS motor, the same motor you'll find in the previous generation Tacoma, and other various models that's equipped with the V6. The only new thing they change on the motor that's really causing the issue is the main bearing plate setup, i talked about it in the first video i made regarding this engine. Toyota said they have addressed the issue with the bearing plate. If that is the case, then this V6 is just as reliable. The internal makeup is not much different.
Could you tell me what is a good way to research and find a good dealer and good techs such as yourself? If you were searching what method would you use?
Ask the dealers around you questions like, how many Toyota MASTER diagnostic technicians(MDT) and Toyota master technicians do you have? How long have they been there?
A good Toyota dealer has multiple Toyota Master Diagnostic technicians and toyota masters working there and has been there long term.
@@TheYotaChannel Great thanks for the response. I didn't know the right question before. Thank you.
Too bad it wasn’t possible for you tear down short block to determine actual root cause of the failure. How many total man hours did you have in this job?
Actual time about 3 days, if you're focused on it and not doing anything else on the side.
The old block will be sent back to Toyota, and they will do the examination.
@@TheYotaChannel Thanks, wish you well on your channel…..
You didn't start it. Does it run now!
What was the warranty time on it? Just wondering.. because as a 42 year Toyota tech the warranty time on these is going to determine my early retirement.. Toyota can stick it in their rears instead of the techs.
Warranty time is about 29 hours for a short block replacement.
Everyone says the 24’ lx 600 is having this issue still… I’m not buying it… anything goes on the internet to make a big deal… and no one can post verification that it was a 24’. I know the 22’s had and some early 23’s not 24’s.
Great video and hat's off for defending Toyota but If I didn't have a 2019 Tundra Limited and 2019 RAV4 Limited and I bought one of these new junkers that blew a main while I was driving down a highway going State to State I certainly would never buy another Toyota and that my friend is where they screwed up. Takes YEARS to make a great reputation and MINUETS to destroy it.
Fn nightmare!
I have 2023 limited tundra transmission has so many issues. The dealer refuses to replace it. Toyota said that’s normal the shifts funny it hesitates in a banging on second gear all the time. I trade it if I traded in I’ll lose probably close to $12-$14,000. Only have 3.900 miles
give it some time for the clutches to bed in...
Do you think Toyota quality is slipping?
No, i honestly don't think so. Anytime you get a new product being released, you can expect something like this. The issue could be big or small. The only question is, will the manufacturer leave you out to dry? And i honestly don't think Toyota will do that.
That’s basically a rebuilt unit
I want to know why are the mains going bad and what’s being done differently during manufacturing? In the video you said the old short block is being thrown out. You think Toyota would want it for more test. That tells me they know the problem. Tell your freaking customer what you found! I have a 23 TRD pro and love it.
The old short block is being sent back to Toyota, and in the previous video, i mentioned that. It just came out that way in the voice-over😬
@@TheYotaChannel so what is Toyota saying is the problem or what are you hearing?
@@stevemorris6270 If Toyota was up front with what the cause of the engine failure was, the customer would have more confidence in the short block repair. By Toyota not being transparent with this information it just looks like they are throwing parts at the problem and hoping for the best! Toyota just tell the public what the cause of the failure is and what was done to remedy the issue, it's very simple.
@@wayneanderson991 I couldn’t have said it better. You are spot on! I believe the engine is going to a work horse once the problem is corrected. Personally I think it the new cradle design for the mains is the problem. Let me rephrase that the design is good but the clearances are to big. So basically it going to come down someone measure wrong.
I saved for years to write a check to pay my truck off when I purchased it. Plus I added close to 20k in suspension,wheels/tires,bumpers,skid plates,intakes,turbo inlet pipes,charge pipes,steps,bed cover,light bar, spare tire bed mount, Alpharex headlights, and interior mods.
All I am asking for is a straight answer what the problem is.
@@stevemorris6270 I agree the new cradle design is the issue but I have a different opinion on the cause of the failure. I think the cradle and block materials are not expanding at the same rate causing clearance issues with the mains. I suspect the mains have a tight tolerance base on recommended oil. Thus the bearings are oil starved a bit until engine is properly warmed up if the engine is worked hard before thermal expansion takes place. Excessive heat and wear takes place for a short period of time on every cold start if the engine is not warmed up before a load is put on it. End result is main bearing failure. If you Toyota has a different spin on this theory please enlighten all of us and stop the speculation! No matter what the cause of the failure is at this point it still boils down to an engineering issue weather it is in manufacturing or assembly.
Still say rebuild engine on title.
I warned y'all about this engine even before it launched on the new Tundra. If you go back a couple of videos of the LS500 I commented very profusely about it. The same issues you're seeing in the Tundra have been reported since 2018. The difference is, the LS500 isn't as mass produced, so most issues weren't reported online, especially since the LS500 clientele is an older crowd that's not necessarily interested in reporting stuff on the internet. People tried to shut me down and called me a Toyota hater and now here we are... Was I wrong this whole time!? I don't think so. There are even multiple threads on the Lexus forums of LS500 engine failures. This recall is now PROOF to those Toyota fanboys who think Toyota can do no wrong. And mind you, this "voluntary" recall came only because the NHTSA decided to open an investigation on it. Otherwise, Toyota would've just simply ignored and dug under the rug, just like they tried to do with the self-accelerating cars from a decade ago!
The self accelerating was a different issue then, people were not looking at their driver mats when they get in the vehicle which is why they now have clips to clip your mat so that the mat won’t move, even my 2005 matrix which was made in 04 even had clips to hold those mats, the acceleration issue was reported in the media back in 2006, so let’s not compare that issue to what’s happening with the tundra issue. The tundra issue is more serious one and they also had oil pistons issues in the Corolla for their 2.4 litre engines which later got discontinued. In other words, every car brand has recalls and issues, it’s how the issue is dealt is what’s needed
@@alvinsimba734 Excuse me but the issue was never the floor mats. Toyota blamed it on the floor mats initially as an easy way out, but it was a software glitch in the ECU all along. The NHTSA was able to replicate it in a Lexus ES350 that accelerated all by itself. And yes, the issues are entirely different, but the corporate strategy to diffuse and deflect is still the same. People need to stop venerating corporations, they really don't give a damn when things go wrong.
Ya right, show us your box of parts that didnt make it back on the truck.
The worst thing is that people is paying more than 60k or more for trucks and to get a piece of junk is fkng crazy!!.. I have a 2014 Tacoma 4.0 v6 just hit 140k with not a single problem I’m glad I have it..
Metal shavings can still exist even if you replaced the block.
I suspect resell value wont take a hit until these trucks are out of warranty and people start eating the full repair cost of this engine rebuild. What its like 25k right? I mean thats basically unaffordable for most normal people. I suspect they will be forced to tell the lender to come repo their truck.
I think over 30k
It will be interesting once we see these getting done outside of warranty. He said 3-4 days so let’s figure 32 hours at $200 an hour, that’s $6400 in labour. I’d hate to think the parts would be over $10,000. Still an expense no one should have to deal with. Hopefully Toyota will help its customers once out of warranty.
Since engine is out. Put the 5.7 V8 in it
I can tell. There’s lots of signs that it’s been tinkered with! Smh
You are a toyota master tech ?
Why don't you take apart the block and inspect it and tell us if there is a restriction in the oil passages by the main bearings .any debris? You stated the block is going to the trash anyways...show use some pictures of debris in the main bearing oil passages so you can put all the assumptions of others about bad designs away...
Hey, the old short block will be sent back to Toyota.
The short block solution is UNACCEPTABLE
I consider Toyota not providing a new crate engine completely unacceptable. I would have forced a buy back if they did that to me and I am still under factory warranty.
They don't have crate engines just laying around. The dealers can't get them. All of them are being installed in NEW trucks. I thought this had been gone over in the last few video's...
@@TakeDeadAim Yes, heard that excuse. It is still an excuse from Toyota. And as as customer you should not except it.
short block was the problem... they replaced what broke... the heads are fine 🙂
@TakeDeadAim Your right that Toyota doesn’t just “have crate engines laying around” but, they do determine a certain amount of short assemblies to be taken intermittently from the assembly line and then crated. The disruption to the assembly line is minimal since these are spaced out…….
@@koko4kosh960100%
I would trust a reputable tech to do the work as you have done, but I would still not trust the engine itself, no related to the techs work. Until toyota comes out and gives an official reason, I wont trust this new v35a-fts. I trust tech and have. My sequoia had its frame done in 2015 along with other things under recall. In the salt belt, the trucks with the frame done are MORE valuable than those without, same with the 2az, I would buy a rebuilt one only. I feel like if it is a manufacturing defect, toyota would have already identified and fixed the issue in accordance with kaizen principle. We should not see 24 year truck failing. I guess its a inherent design that has a low failure rate, so they simply send a short block. If they in the slightest said that theres something wrong in the design, major class action lawsuits would come.
Im sure Toyota will give us more info in the future. If you look at the V35A--FTS engine, the internal makeup is the same as the 2GR-FKS motor found in the previous gen Tacoma and other various models that came equipped with the V6 The only difference is that the new V35A main bearing setup is different than the previous v6 design. Toyota said they have addressed the issue, im sure more details are coming our way. But once the main bearing plate design is taken care of, i see no reason why this engine wouldn't be as reliable as the 2GR.
A frame is a poor example. It is a stationary (non moving part) who knows what component you put back on that may have been damaged when berring went out. You going to give 100% guarantee there is not way that could have happened?
toyota is in free fall..bigtime....😂
Not true...there was 23 Tundra Limited fully loaded and the price was really low. I was considering to buy it. So I check the carfax, it stated manufacturer buyback. That alone made me move on.
That fix will not solve the PROBLEM
Nah, the resale on these are taking a hit. No one wants them. Third gen values have gone up.
This truck is a absolute disaster. This new tundra shouldn't have a problem like this at 200,000 miles, let alone under 10,000. I have a 2002 4.7 thats still running with no problems.
New tundras are nothing but junk. 🤦
Still not buying one
That twin turbo 3.4 is garbage 👎
Another Toyota Fanboy vid watching their beloved Toyota's now be more unreliable than Nissan.Fanboys please never bring up Nissan CVT'S at least they were transparent and stood behind them for a 100k miles bet your Toyota God won't do that!!!!!!!lmfao