Anti-Fun CAN BE FUN! - Grubby learns Dota 2 - A to Z Challenge - Bounty Hunter
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Next up in our A to Z challenge: Bounty Hunter! He actually steals gold from enemies! What an interesting mechanic!
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Anti-Fun CAN BE FUN! (Game played on 27-August-2022)
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"Get aether lense"
"Nahh I'm gonna get octarine core"
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Best part of my day is when these videos come out! Your attitude and insistence on learning at your own pace is really refreshing in a game where the player base makes it so toxic so quickly... Keep it up and i hope you continue in this game, you will be an asset to the dota community
I appreciate you committing to dota 2 my dude. You have no idea how much of an addition personality like yours add to the dota 2 community. We openly welcome you and we appreciate each and every single content you put out there! Much love grubby
A thing about inexperienced Bounty Hunter players is that they during laning stage often will take a lot of damage from the enemy and their creeps while trying to land a Jinada hit for those 12 extra gold
Mostly being not worth it lol
24 gold. His team gains 12 net worth while enemy team loses 12
I think it would be nice to include the parts after where Grubby looks at the game stats at the end
"Sometimes its not enough for me to have fun. Sometimes i want my opponent not to have fun" - thats golden
The backseating is insane.
I believe grubby is learning the most he can by playing every hero. I myself back in 'classic' dota I played against AI with every hero too before trying multiplayer. I must say it really helped since I took my time to see all spells and figuring out the items, but now with all the info around, just getting into online against other people should be much better! Also by watching this series is making me wanna play it again, which I didn't feel like for years. Thx grubby!
Grubby is what the real PMA means. Keep it up man. I know you'll be great after learning a thing or two about game mechanics. Cheers.
Yeah these people you were playing against were HARD countering your character in everyway. They knew exactly what to do and how to do it. At this level yes, they were "smurfing".
So in case one doesnt know there are counter heroes to every hero in the game.
i love how chill he is and not bothered by being new to the game
please, just eat tangos when you've lost hp and rebuy regen :D most of the early game you're running around with less than 50% hp. In wc3 it's alright to be low hp but in dota it's a free invite for your opponent to aggro you.
I've watched your DOTA2 games (enjoying the series a lot btw) and have noticed small mistakes that constantly cost you gold, when you're dealing with creeps on lane alone:
1. You never engage ranged creep, while melee creeps are killing each other. Ranged creeps yield more gold and they die much faster. Also there is zero chance to miss last hit, as melees are busy punching each other. Reliable gold income missed here.
2. You deny your creeps when there is no enemy hero around and creeps are killing each other. That's a waste of time and gold, having less friendly creeps minimizes risk of missing last hit.
3. Siege machines yield even more gold, so try to have them in priority when possible.
@@Test-mq8ih If you watch the games, we're talking about very last denying hit, when friendly creep will die from hostile creep within one or two blows anyway. There is no "grave difference", just time wasted. You might deny creeps once the skirmish is over and 1-2 friendly creeps are left with low HP, so they don't drag lane ahead.
But you're right about my skill, I don't even have DOTA installed :)
I feel like the biggest issue is map awareness. Your team often fights near you, and you miss it. As a tip, try to listen to game sounds. If you hear a bunch of spells being cast - something is happening, so you might need to join.
Weird how a WC3 pro have low map awareness, everything feels different I guess.
@@LBL_Edzer He doesn't have low map awareness. He used to be good in SCII too, where map awarness might(!) even be more important as the game is faster.
He just isn't used to the game and needs to focus more on his own hero. Map awareness is a skill you develop over time because you start doing the basic stuff like last hitting on "auto-mode".
@@MagicRabbit that's what I'm sayin, it feels different so he didn't know that a bunch of icons in minimap grouped together with skill and ult sounds means there's a teamfight going on = low map awareness in Dota 2. I didn't mean low in general sorry if I'm not clear about it.
I’m so invested in this series rn. Lol
This series of learning dota is the best. Always love to see new and enthusiastic people taking on a game I have an abusive relationship with. Grubbys attitude towards learning is so great to see!
I love this series so much and I'll be sticking to it all the way through to the last hero. Also, just a quick tip: Know when to keep farming or when to join your team for team fights. I've noticed in some of the previous videos that you were still farming when your team is already fighting or pushing. Each hero has their "timings" on when to keep farming or gaining levels and when to start fighting people and running at them.
Keep it up Grubby! Much love
Ok the slow monologue zoom is low-key hilarious
You've inspired me to "git gud" and give dota 2 another shot and i am having a lot of fun. Thanks grubby
in case you have not learned this yet, reliable gold is gold that cannot be lost on death, it is mainly gained by killing heroes though there are a few other ways to get it while unreliable gold can be lost on death and the most common way of getting it is just farming.
most of the gold you will be getting as a core(think position 1 to 3) will be unreliable gold so dying is even more punishing for those.
Shaman is one of those who learn biking through books instead of actually riding it KEKW
"learn dota before playing" ah yes, the good old read a guide and you're ready to compete :D
Grub you so patient with chat even when they get on your nerves. Your sarcasm is hilarious when you start to get tight with them xD
That debate about anti fun kind of reminds me of a quote from an MTG pro.
"In a game of Magic, there is only a finite amount of fun to be had and I want to have all of it."
2:00 Hahaha Grubbbb, there are also strength, intelligence, agi, gold stealing. I might miss something, but there are all types of stealing here xD hahaha
Glad to see Dr Strange enjoying a mortal's game
Crazy how much he's improved since this.
This shuriken build is one of the most satisfying build in dota imo, the only tip i can give you is once you get aghanim try as much possible to stay back and dont meele enemy hero instead just track and shuriken, thats it.
Invis > Track Someone > Hit with Jinada > Shuriken
36:29 "Learn Dota before playing!!!!" I see why people leave this game and have a miniscule of new players. Didn't even let him LEARN BY PLAYING IT lmao. This is the game where you LEARN by playing with an actual people. People might say "just play with bots", but that only gets you so far, the actual learning and the plays comes by multiplayer, not bots. This game always push you for a "Trial By Fire" learning method, you have to fall over a lot if you want to succeed
"aether lens nooo it's not part of the build, I'm gonna get octarine core" LOL
"Sometimes I want to have fun by making my opponent not have fun"
Yep lads, he's converted.
clarities are one of your best friends in this game
On "anti-fun" mechanics -- it's a totally fun option to have stuff like that; only question is whether you are okay with being on both sides of it. (getting stunned is also "anti-fun", so is getting killed and having to wait to respawn, etc.)
BH is all about ganking. Either you use him to get vision for your team by invading their jungle and try to get pick offs or you gank on lane tp to other lanes to increase pressure there. Never stay passive and farm. In late game he doesn't scale to well if you haven't had any advantage in early game.
you can also invis and wait for your invis cooldown then auto attack enemy then invis like blademaster
all good grubby, you doin fine, always looking forward to watch your dota videos :)
super ecxited for TI as always!
you can just see it. he loves dota. he wants dota
I am not a dota player, but have been loving these videos, I feel like I am learning about the game together with Grubby
Bounty Hunter was (is still) my favorite hero to grinding MMR especially on low bracket (Herald, Guardian, Crusader, Archon) . The damage physical output is high and this guy doesn't need to farming, just track-hunt-kill, you're gonna be rich.
Grubby is a masochist confirmed. There's lot of anti fun in dota, so you're welcome for a hell of rides
Bounty Hunter can be a very versatile hero. Nowadays there 2 builds, first one is your build. Spamming his Q (shuriken toss) with aghanim build + spell caster item
2nd one is becoming a hitter/auto-attacker because his 2nd (jinada) skill is scaling with your atk. And with track skill, you can keep chasing enemies
there's also another old build that becomes an aura carrier. basically, because his stat is tanky, he can buy all aura items and provide buff for teammate
Part of the problem is people can take games way to serious. They are games, they are make believe, you are playing as a different character. As long as you arent being personal and if its obvious you are starting to get to someone then there is no harm done. The issue is people getting bent out of shape so easily because they haven't been introduced in the culture of not taking everything so personal and getting angry from it.
@@Test-mq8ih it's a lot people who have never been involved in sports and what sportsmanship is like. While you're in the game you can hate each other with a passion it can seem sometimes. But in the end you shake hands and have respect for the other person for even stepping on the field or court with you even if you beat them badly. Maybe they weren't near as skilled as you but they had to guts to get out there. Sometimes that spirit can turn into a rivalry and lead to some real animosity but almost always it's still alright with you in the end after it's all said and done.
@@winns35 what do you say when ppl are intentionally afking or ruining your game? still happy about it?
@@gustanoid that happens so unoften that I just say whatever and go next.
@@gustanoid when you stop crying about things that you have no control over you'll suddenly find yourself to be a much happier person
@@weaselsdawg if people demanded more severe punishment from valve for griefing they would actually change this. So it requires collective decision
2:15 Spoken like a true dota player
Bounty Hunter is one of my favorite champs in Dota2. I tend to play him a little more aggressive with the items but I do love to run around being invisible tagging enemies
are you really a dota player? coz we dont use champs here. lol jk
@@nuketurnal2 Your right no one uses champs :P
@@nuketurnal2 it’s been a number of years, I couldn’t think of the term for this particular game. Last time I played The monkey guy was just released.
I just loved playing Bounty Hunter, went with desolater and other items in order to quickly nuke the enemies before they had the chance to react. Going after the enemy carry since they were usually squishy enough to kill in a hit or two.
Anti fun is the best kind of fun 😤
2:00 unless it's a 3 hour game against the old techies
10:25 Grubby in situation like this, try to attack neutral creeps so they kill you before your opponents do and they won't get gold and exp :)
Ah, my favourite hero. Greed is good!
a true moba player, the fun you leech from the enemy team means more for you!!
Grubby just expressed that he enjoys defeating ToD when he complains about his “No-fun” way of playing.
Tip: if you play BH offlane and your team dont have front line. Better if you go for bkb 1st not aghs cuz your ult and 2nd deals so much dmg
That shadow shaman probably a smurf too thats why this game has smurf in the enemy team.
Because as far as i know smurf wouldnt be toxic at this point of learning.
taking invis level 1 can help you secure the bounty rune steal from the enemy
Any hero you are planning to get Vanguard Or Hood of Defiance on can rush Ring of Health which helps you lane
i really want to see him play a hero for a second time.
Cant wait gruby reach earth spirit and invoker lmao
He can learn the basics of the earth spirit at the end of the game. He can do nothing with invoker :D. This A-Z challenge is not for a newbee. He should play limited pool.
Yoink yoink... so it take that info!
You can use invis mechanics including shadow blade while tping or channeling spells:)
You will not listen anyway but I have to say it. DOTA is a team game and you play alone too much. Map awareness. Try to always watch not only your hero but surroundings. You need to always check and be aware where are your allies at every moment. This is number one skill you missing now and have to learn. Good luck!
dis dota videos of yours grubby makes me happy, I watched you play warcraft and enjoyed it, then you played dota 2 which made me happier. However, yes the game is fun but just to give you a heads up you'll encounter toxic/racist player and sometimes long games will make your head hurt. But still playing dota custom maps from 2009 then dota 2 from 2012 until now still brings joy to my stressful adult life. Just enjoy the game grubby!! good luck always!!
Man, I'm loving toxic Grubby 2:12
keep doing it, as long time player, i learn it again together with you
Your videos are making me want to give dota2 another chance.
Cant wait the day you learn all heroes
not using jinada toss when you have agha is kinda pissing me off lol, btw jinada toss can bounce if the next target is tracked and thats so op if you track them all.
Quelling blade insta kills wards. Or dont they do that anymore. I havent played for a long time.
Not anymore.
Anti-fun = Anti-mage
You're going to love the next hero. Pure micro.
I can't wait to see Grubby will meepo
Opponent have a lot of strong spell and u have a good early, it is better to go bkb+ a lot more carry hitter build rather than hood+agha build. If u build hitter build u can try 1 shotted their backline int hero 1st.
stackdrop, setfall... But I really glad enjoying this game...
Cha-ching!
has anyone explained the agro/deagro yet?
Getting better in areas, but map awareness and the importance of helping out friendly heroes who are fighting near you is still abysmal. New low was shopping during a team fight. Semi funny, semi facepalm moment. Some of those fights were clearly initiated by your teammates, because they saw you near and assumed you'd be there to help, like 95% of people playing dota, so you damage your team in two ways with lack of map awareness. You make them take fights they shouldn't, based on your proximity and you make them lose fights they should win if you joined in, or let enemies that could have been killed get away by not helping out.
Until you improve your map awareness, I think it would help your team not take as many risks, to let them know that you are new and for them not to expect you to notice fights nearby, not to count on you to always jump in those.
There are always directional sounds of fighting when heroes are clashing nearby.
You really need to rush ags on BH, and u should be playing as a core to do that, he did change with this patch note in which i havnt played him this time yet, but playing as a 5 COULD. work, IF your actually not buying gold for your 3, but hes more suited for 1-3 and dont play him mid if your in high ranks lol if your low rank it MIGHT work lol but at the end of the day whatever gets you ags will win you the game, its just constant gold
This AM movement is so odd. It is like he playing on laptop touchpad or something.
He loves anti fun, if only he could play the old Techies :(
"Autocast on W? I don't want to, I could not have it for an enemy!"
You were not using it for entire teamfights kekw
Do baseline stuff first, optimization comes later.
Yo. In your next WC video, can you show a mass WInd Riders build order?
Wyvs suck
@@FollowGrubby Ah lol.
all the people in chat who instantly call anyone a smurf are so embarrassing, it's like their brain can't accept someone playing the game at a decent level
hey man., keeep at this, and show people anyone can learn from dota from 0., we neeed new playerss to keep our game alive ;)
Antifun? Grubby you are late. Valve killed my techies...
Valve did remove anti-fun in the form of Techies.
Those were some of the worst decisions in dota history imo. Techies was a very spechul kind of hero. From what I see they even removed his suicide attack, wasn't good enough that he couldn't spam his mines right next to each other anymore.
@@raifthemad Techies was a garbage joke hero that needs to be removed, at least it got nerfed to oblivion. Still strong if played properly, still has suicide.
@@jzo1414 It was a good joke, in the hands of some more creative people. "Still strong?" As if it was ever threat to a competent team. I saw it in pro tournaments once, in d1, in an early round when iirc MYM was playing against some weaker team. It was in no way broken or in need of nerf. If you played against a decent one, you either learned to ward properly, or you died a lot. A good lesson in my book.
@@raifthemad It was even banned in TI 5 finals I believe, the ultimate mines that could just randomly kill you were too overpowered.
You played well, only you do not need to follow the guide strictly, in this game you played against casters, all of them, then you need BKB faster , way before octaine core. Keep that in mind. Casters-> fast BKB.
Dam, a DOTA hero can die hella fast like its all very fast paced and one mistake can end ur hero in a split second...not a very forgiving game. I'd give up easily.
Isn't all moba are like that except when playing tank hero/champion?
Dying is not that big of a deal, even the carries can die a few times and it isn't too punishing. Currently a support 5 that "tanks a gank" by dying instead of a core is actually making a decent play, and finishing a winning game with over 10 deaths on a sup is not uncommon.
Grubby, will you ever play party with the community?
I've always said that sc2 pro players would be the best at Dota. I wish I knew Jaedong and could convince him to dedicate 10k hours of work to Dota. Maybe Dota would take over Korea instead of LoL
Grubby please try Enchantress 😁
Please try to focus more on last hits.
50-70 every 10 mins? (You do play well btw)
It's refreshing to watch your gameplay Mr. Grubby.
Looking forward to see you play Zeus. GLHF.
Bro your twitch chat telling you to buy nonsense, hood of defiance not going to help you. Bro you could one shot someone before they could even do significant damage to you. Desolator was the item you needed here + Black king bar. Grubby, your twitch chat spoiling this experience for me. Please stop doing what they tell you, listen to dendi instead or just trust your instincts. 😒
@@Test-mq8ih thats where you are wrong, a simple wand and some intuitive thinking could help deal with that "shitton of magic damage" problem. Spells have cooldowns, this isn't wtf mode dota where you could just spam spells with out repercussions.
While there are carries who need to sit in lane and jungle alllllll day for gold and impactful items like antimage or phantom assassin, bounty hunter, is the opposite. Why? Because he can accumulate gold with his ultimate spell track.
Jinada plus desolator would destroy anything on that team in the early game, why is this so? Because minus armor is busted in the early game. Plus he would have an insane kill streak. Grubby could then utilize this kill streak momentum of gold to get black king bar which renders him magic immunity for a duration. He could rush black king bar first too because all of his spells contributes to damage output then desolator after.
If you don't understand something so simple, then YOU are the noob. Noobs like to beat around the bush, pros get to the point.
@@Test-mq8ih btw i would also like to mention that when you earn a kill streak you get levels ahead of your enemies, which gives stats.
IKR
Use q to lasthit creeps, its pretty cheap.
I think this game could be win if instead of aether you go for bkb. Enemy heroes had only magic damage and you would be immortal
Its battle pass season so many high rank will play normal game to increase battle pass lv
I can finally say I am better than Grubby :D
the first hero i ever played. love this greedy goblin
I think he's a Kobold, he has rat teeth.
@@EonFigure he's a cutie is what he is
Anti-fun is super fun.
That's why I mained Valeera in HotS... but then they turned her into an off-tank.
Feel sorry for you regarding the BP of this year..it's one of the worst BP in years.
you never see bounty hunter in tournament play, always questionable if he can make an impact. if everything goes well your team has a lot of extra bounty money and can snowball hard. If things go wrong bh cant do much most of the time.
No Fun Allowed! 🙃
riot coined anti fun and removed any fun elements in league, its ok to take turns about having fun
I m new subscriber 🙃