Yamaha YZ65 versus KTM 65SX - Dirt Bike Magazine
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2018
- There’s no doubt that Yamaha is going after KTM with the YZ65. In amateur racing, the 65 class is dominated by KTMs with just a smattering of Husqvarna TC65s and even fewer Cobra 65s. The Kawasaki KX65 is aimed at play riders and true beginners, so when it comes to racing, the Yamaha’s target is clearly the KTM. When you put the Yamaha and KTM side by side, it’s striking how similar the two bikes are in size and features. They have the same wheelbase (45 inches), the same fuel capacity (0.9 gallon) and both have six-speed gearboxes with nearly identical overall gear ratios, gear for gear. On the track, the two bikes have nearly identical performance. They both are amazingly powerful. In the end, the track performance of the two bikes is so similar that you really shouldn’t make a decision based on that alone. Yamaha did an excellent job of hitting the target. If the bike was any faster, it might have alienated beginners; any slower and it would have lost the serious racers. At this point, it’s more about dealer support and brand identity. Yamaha has made the 65 class a race again.
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This is a great comparison but I was so distracted at how amazing the kids demonstrated proper riding form! Like text book!, High elbows, choke up on the seat in the turn, braking, accelerating. All across the board the details done perfect, great job guys! I would be a proud father!
how the time flies, I remember 15 years ago riding my 2002 sx65 lol then had a yz85 and yz125, now I'm 25 and ride a yz 250 2 stroke, even though we grow older these bikes will always have a place in my heart, reminds me of my youth and the good old days, may need the yz65 as a pit bike lol
2 $moke all the way
500$ cheaper for the Yamaha, not sure why they wouldn't mention that
Let's bring that two stroke sound up in the mix, the music is killing the vibe!
The sicket part I think is how the sx65 is literally the exact same look as a big bike. They look so sick haha
10 pounds that’s a ton of weight on something that small, that’s a ton of weight on a big bike...
Most would never notice at that level. Heavier might stick to the ground better for lighter riders. Theres lots of weight saving tricks to shave off ten pounds pretty easy.
Doesn't Kawi make a KX 65?
@@jaymontgomery3330
Yes they mention it and say that it is more of a beginner /fun bike and not competitive with these 2 or the Husqvarna and the Cobra.
Ernie Desjardins that’s a lot of weight to shave there is only so much ti and carbon fiber you can throw at a mini
I was thinking the same thing 10 pound is huge. Changes the whole way a bike feels in my opionion
The script is literally in the description LOL
Wew🤑🤑
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Dont wven have to watch the vid bruh bruh bruh re
Its the rider not the bike
Like if you agree
and without a good bike you'll have a shitty ride.
To a certain extent yes, but if you are a very good rider lower end bikes definitely limit you. My friend owns an mx shop and does a lot of work with smaller bikes like 85’s and 65’s and has to do a lot of work engine wise with bikes like the Kx, and yz to keep up with the ktm’s. Not only engine work but ktm stock wp suspension blows all the competitions out of the water.
Yeah but the point is to compare the stats of the bike
Kumo Palmer it matters about the speed he or she likes to go
Kumo Palmer so true
I had the kx60 but that was back in 1993 lol loved that bike and befor that a cobra 50 but after my 60 i stayed rideing kaw love them bikes my cousin always had yamaha wich was a great bike also my bike was my life after school id ride untill dark every day had a bad ass track across the street in the wood that my buddy's dad built for us with his bobcat lot's of fun 👍👍👍💪🇺🇸💪🇺🇸💪
I remember them cobras they were fast, lol I use to race with the on my KTM SX back in the day
Good for Yamaha for at least trying to get in the game. I'll be at the Yamaha demo day this weekend at GTR if anyone wants to come by, or keep an eye on the channel.
My blue blood started in 1980. Yzinger 50 n 80 then the 86 yz80. I did get to spend some time on the 1981 yz60. By niebour SPEEDO had it from brandnew. It was every bit as fast as his brothers 82 yz80. After 38 years of mx my first choice in bikes and atvs and snowmobiles is still YAMAHA...
Who gives a shit. Why do people leave comments about themselves thinking anyone cares
I have a KTM 65 and the clutch wasn’t working I’ve had had it for a year now and it happened a couple days ago and I’m getting a new 65 I don’t if I should get a yz or a KTM can you guys help me decide
Now the Yamaha YZ85 2019 VS KTM 85 2019
YZ85 Master Yes that would be cool
Seth Richmonds there is
Seth Richmonds your an idiot
Seth Richmonds u stupid
Seth Richmonds yes there is you stupid
Guys I’m getting a 65 and idk what should I get yz65 or ktm65
what gear does the yamaha rider have it looks pretty nice?
Kawi needs to step up and revise their 65
? Why
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@@halaasserha5737 what english please?
@@thezoms9961 jin
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@@thezoms9961 why not ?
I wonder if the yz65 is aimed at the ktm or not?
Amazing little bikes.
I’m getting one soon which one should I get tell me by replying!
Which cross is better?
I have the same bike KTM 65 sx but mine is a half kickstart you have to kick it forward
Where is that track
where do you ride
All Yamaha need to do now is an all new yz125&250. Nice looking little bike.
Most likely will end as they are not TPI and will not be able to be sold due to regulations.
@@mecalpsha4473 YZ125 Is solid platform can match KTM 125 power with about $500 in Ups. Doubt be EPA restrictions since KTM changes their 2-stroke motors waaaayyy more than Japanese CO's do...
did not age well@@mecalpsha4473
Sele yukseklikleri nedir ?
I think my KX65 is so fast, I can't imagine what these would feel like.
Vlog Epicness I’m subbed to your channel
Kumo Palmer You’re awesome! Thanks!!!
get a 85
yo someone knows a veeeery cheap 65cc dirtbike??
Where is a 85kx??
Yamaha finally got a power valve
Are they both big wheel
KTM is a rediculous price in Australia. Wait until a KTM needs parts and you'll have to take out a bank loan
Ridiculous * Ktm is dominating Japanese 2 strokes
Is it just me or did 65s grow like 5 in?
Stephen Wilson jes
They look like 85’s
Trevor Odom no, no they don’t
The YZ65
You have to admit it they’re both great bikes!
And also it depends on the rider which ones faster !!
Ktm is better
@@connerschlindwein6432much !
And man do I want that yz already exempted I need an 85
Price please
I wish I had the Yamaha
I have the extract red whit and blue fly gear
Please how much is the motorcycle
How come these little 65s have 6 speeds while my crf150r and trx450er have only 5 speeds?
Morse there 4 strokes that’s y
Price on yamaha yz65
Honda should make a 125r that will keep up with the 65s like the 150r and the 85s
All Japanese dirt bikes are excellent
For the most part they are😎👍
All European dirt bikes are better
@@quattroblog6366 they are ok
@@quattroblog6366 I have a 2021 te250i and a 2001 yz250 and I think the Yamaha is better built even if it is 20 years old.
okay quit smoking crack. those ktms are Chinese junk now.. I'm extremely racist toward the Chinese communists. will only buy American or American ally. china is number 1 enemy.@@quattroblog6366
2023 I have 2 yz65 they absolutely rip
I dont get how they make a big deal about weight when they talk about big bikes (450/250) but dont when they talk about small bikes. 10 pounds heavier is a lot of weight especially for a 65
If it wasn't 4 the Top notch engineers at Yamaha there wouldn't be a 4 stroke MX bike
I think they would have but not nearly as early.
@@KoltFin KTM had the 520 n it was fast but it was lacking in a few things
It’s the 10lbs or the air fork... more vids, Canadian parents need to figure this out before April!
If you want reliable... buy YAMAHA. If you want to piss money away on a expensive bike that aint any faster with real expensives repairs to come.... buy ktm. 38 years racing mx and my 2 kids both raced 50 65 85 now my 15 year old daught is on a kx100. My step son is grown up and on his own. Ive had 71 mx bikes roll through my hands in 38 years. Best luck is always been with YAMAHA 2 strokes.
If your near sudbury... massey fair is building a new track come spring. Tues and thursday nights 5 to 8pm and sat 12 noon to 5pm we will be open.
I think you got the carburetor brands mixed up. Usually Yamaha has a maikinu and ktm has a keihin
ktm uses mukuni all across it's line since 2017
yamahonda400 oh. Ok
Much to the benefit of the PWK Airstriker that the majority of KTM owners end up buying. Those Mikunis never run right
@@yamahonda400 wrong. My sons 04 65sx has an oem vm24. The KX 65 of the same era as the exact same carb as well
@ 1:25 "the barks are" Lol
Xfeioef
Just got a Kim 65sx it is so sick
It's mike kim?
Sorry but I'm looking for klx Kawasaki ? But thank you though
I own a 350 450 65 and a little 50 that was my first racing bike so I wanted to keep it but my favorite bike is my 450
Yamaha it's awesome just got the 2019 yz 85 it's great fast as can be stock they have changed the motor gonna leave it just like it is don't need nothing the blue rims are sweet the bike was only 4500 4 thousand and 500 hundred dollars well worth it got other yz 85cc but the new ones I just got is the fastest take your self too your Yamaha dealer ship and check the 2019 yz 85 you want regret it
I ride a 19 too comapred too the years before it has soo much more power and better suspension i love mine too
Yea, yz85s are awesome
i got a 2006 cr85 and it was 1300
Let’s be honest, for some moto dads, a big consideration is the big bikes too so dad can match lol
The Kx isn’t that bad. Bud racing front end send the cylinder to PC get the rear shock done and you have a competitive bike for less than the SX or the YZ
What if you are 10 and u have to buy the bike they are like $5k
Dá para comprar
Maybe this year it would be a good idea to bring the kx65 against those 2. Even though it is a dated design , I would like to know for the budget...
The KX isn’t even in the same league. Just look at the forks alone. But you’re right, great for a budget rider
Are kxs not race bikes because they don't have inverted forks 😂
Ben Wolfe its meant for wheelies boi
They are lesser bikes in every way
@@parkerwise3895 how?
@@benwolfe1702 power, suspension, ground clearance, seat height, style and design, it's a 20 year old bike
Dirtbike Captures i have a kx and that shit gives me more fun than a race bike
Please do kx85 versus ktm85
Kx85 is better
@@vette9305 yeah, the 65 does lack a little, but the kawi 85’s and 125’s leave ktm in the dust.
Both are rocket ships
What bikes do you guys all have
@Spudly1234567 also spoiler?
2018 150sx ktm
yz 80
2014 Yz250F
2006 and 2000 cr250
Personally I grew up on ktm so I'm still sticking to ktm
ktm
i made the switch from ktm to cr and it was the best thing i’ve ever done
Can't beat the yamaha when it comes to balance.
Dyno numbers?
Wow so much better than my 1972 Yamaha GT 80 and my 1974 Yamaha YZ-80A with GYT Kit that almost tripled the power of the 72 CC engine with 24 mm Mikuni Carb replacing 16 mm Kehin ..
RACE READY KTM !!!
They should start aiming the kx 65 for competition in 65cc class because Kawasaki has and always had the kx 60 it don't make sense making 2 beginners bikes one only 5cc more then the other. I think that would make way more sense how about y'all?
Price pls
EhKfxcc
Had Yamaha my whole till I went with ktm let me tell you 125 sx stays on my friends yz 250 ktm is a fast ass bike but will never give up my yz
I ride a Yamaha 85
My original yz 80 from 87 takes alot of looks cause people dint see them or remember how fast they were
I picked up my son a 2004 65SX two years ago with a fresh complete top end, wiseco pistons, brand new ebc clutch pack as well as a brand new oem ktm clutch hubs. Also had complete FMF pipe and turbine core Shorty silencer.
He has been thrashing it for two years straight. Last week his buddy came over with a brand new down to the frame full restoration Honda crf150 R?
f? With the big wheels/basically a factory race bike and he never once got passed on our little track. I am 180 pounds and that KTM will rip the front wheel up with zero effort in third gear.. the suspension is also insanely good. Every time I ride thing I feel like I just did 200 laps in an Indy car.
Alguém brasileiro?
Bro I make my kx 65 scream beating yz ktm tx and cx 65's all the time
Lol stop the cap
Yamaha reliability FTW
I have a KTM SX 65
Yamaha is wat cooler bro.
The yz65 is def recommended
Yamaha💙
🇯🇵Japan👌💪
Ktm is Austrian
How much is The KTM 65 sx
Like 6k. Get a used kx, or a used yz.
Do you have one
@@JhazGrana yeah, I have a kx.
@@parkerknoche2709 how old are you
@@JhazGrana 12
Yes 85 vs ktm85
Will a large child be stronger (not just physically) by learning his primary motocross skills on a bike 10lbs heavier? Help or hindrance?
Also curious about approx current cost of each, I called my Yamasuki dealer as soon as I watched this but forgot it's Monday and they ain't open on Monday. I got to move to city...
When your riding any bike... ten pounds is a really small amount of weight. No beginner on earth would notice much more then the colour of the bike. In canada yz65 is about 5300 bucks.
@@endurotruckererniedesjardins
I hope that the conversion rate on that $6500 CD vs USD goes my way. I might as well get him a 450 and let him grow into it. JK....
It does appear to be a nice little bike.
The KTM is not for beginners, it will cost you a fortune in spark plugs trust me.
@@mcmc8496 i double checked the price. 5300 plus taxes. My new 250 was 8200 with taxes
@@endurotruckererniedesjardins
Thanks, I am waiting on my local shop to open this morning. I'll let you know what the going rate is in Arkansas. I think we're going to trade 1 of our Harleys toward a new 65 and something for myself. I sold my 450 and only have a couple KX500'S but want something new to ride the local Hare scramble group with my youngest son along with his motocross (I'm getting to old)
Do you know anything good or bad about the Husqvarna 65? It's been a long while since my older boys rode, it's like starting over and relearning everything.
We have both bikes and the Yamaha is so much better and easy to work on and maintain
Just bought a used 2016 ktm 65 with $3000 of upgrades from the previous owner for $3400 I think that’s a steal
For that kind of $ I'm guessing you pretty muched walked away with a ktm frame and a heavily modified aftermarket bike lol. Awesome little bikes my son races a 2005 Rm 65 and is begging me for the sx 65
Hairy Snatch it’s a fast bike! Very fun but if he’s already on a 65 wait till a 85!
@@mubszn740 yes they are. I watch them ktms dominate the track every weekend. Cool little bikes. 85 class is coming soon as my son will be 12 by fall. Ride on brotha 🤙
Hairy Snatch hope he likes it! Can’t decide if I’m going to get a ktm or yami 85! Hope he has fun!
@@mubszn740 tough choice man, both are awesome. Personally I like the Japanese bikes for the fact not much has changed for 2 smokers in the past 20-25 years so very easy to work on. Never owned a ktm but I've heard lots of maintenance.
Yz all the way..
The Yamaha yz 65cc
I have a ktm 50sx it rips
same but i got a cr 85 now make the switch to cr when you level up
Carry a van load of spares for that Ktm
Whats a good Dirt bike for a 12 years old
Maico 700
DirtDevil Inthemud19 ttr125, drz125, yz85, rm85, ktm85 or a kx85.
DirtDevil Inthemud19 also crf150f and crf150r
Yeah 85 is nice
I see that because I went to the Motorsports that here where I live and I saw a klx85cc but I thought it was big
i wish i had enough money to buy a dirtbike
It depends on skill not speed
0:48 why are they lying on the yz it says it’s a 85 and Yamaha Never released a yz 65😡😡😡
InfinitegoldZ do some research lol that is not an 85 and yes they do make a 65 that’s what this whole video is about
1:25 lol
Yamaha more reliable, My choice YZ
Maximus Khann ktm has made 65s longer
@@nolacross704 : Must have, But what I have experienced , My opinion is on that, cheers
@@nolacross704 0000000⁰jjjjjjjjjgkjhjjnnnjjhjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjhhhhhh
@@nolacross704 ghhh
Yamaha is # 1 in reliability , bulletproof bikes .
yz 65cc
Why doesn't america do dirt bikes
Cobra!
Yamaha 😍
Two
Just write vs in title
The kid on the Yamaha is better
Kim and Honda all the way
Pw so much better for beginnin
Meregala la azul
Plis😘