@@Fuck90Percent low heat, cant be detected by police helicopters. A bit like LED spotlights vs Halogen which emit excess heat. Your house would glow like a Christmas tree on the heat camera
You don't need to buy any previous Porsches to get a GT3 RS. it's just that it's in extremely high demand, and they're prioritising existing customers.
Trust me people love the Taycan, sure the depreciation sucks but no one expected these to hold value or appreciate, and it’s not like 99.9% of luxury cars hold their value anyway
This is only tangentially related to this video, but I saw a 911 Dakar at a dealership when I was walking through Barcelona and that made my fkn day. Such a gorgeous car.
Out of Spec got over 450miles with 4 people on board, granted they were pretty much hypermiling but seems like it should do 350miles at high motorway speeds and given the charging rate that should be more than enough for most people (that can afford it).
@@hagestad It's a mixture of cell-chemistry, battery-management system, and supplier-requirements from Porsche (if Porsche didn't specify it, LG / CATL wouldn't have made it for them)
@@hagestada lot. Everyone is using CATL batteries. Most manufacturers are not hitting Porsche charging curve performance. I know people want to give praise to the Chinese company, but no no, give Porsche engineers the credit they deserve here too.
@@manoz6194 chargers work fine in the rain, and unlike petrol/diesel pumps, you don't have to stand there holding it... so unless they covered the entire walk from the charger to the services building, you're going to get wet regardless.
@@logicalChimp that's really not a good point since no one is going to hold a petrol pump for more than a minute or two. I just filled up my petrol car in the pouring rain, didn't get wet at all
@@manoz6194canopies are expensive. But the nice places do have them, especially if they can install solar into them. But realistically, you should only be out of your car to charge for around 10 seconds max. And the rain would probably help keep the temps down and help your charging session lol. For all the complaints about charging station issues, this is not high on my list haha
So, a few things. One Porsche isn't responsible for WLT range tests. No manufacturer is. Whether you like or dislike gov. MPG or range tests - they provide a basis for comparison and so are useful. The real way to measure these cars is by looking at the miles per kilowatt hour. I ignore most of the other numbers. This test got about 3.2. That's ok, it's not that good though. The math is simple enough 3.2 miles per kilowatt hour and 100 kilowatt hour battery is 3.2 x 100 or 320 range. For example Edmunds test of the Lucid got 438 miles on 118 KWH battery which is 3.7 miles per kilowatt. So Porsche is competitive here but def not best in class...yet.
But you also need to count that in such test ride like this one, he drove it hard. Testing the power, 0-60 ..etc. So, If you could be gentler, the range could be closer to the estimated one.
You're right, except that you're using one data point where at least the official testing is standardized and repeated - which means you're kinda invalidating your first point. The efficiency is what matters, but over normal usage, which we don't have data for now. Therefore, the WLT gives us a basis for comparison, at least.
Bro FUCK the GT3RS 😂😂 Taycan buyers wanted Taycans The GT3RS was made only for the track, a Taycan or Bentley, Rolls, Aston, AMG, etc shits on it for a luxury boss daily driver
@@hovanesmarkaryan896 what? a car that is not meant to be luxurious is not luxurious? the GT3 would slap those car in terms of performance any day of the week.
@@hovanesmarkaryan896 all I’m saying is many people were forced to buy a Taycan maybe even multiple units to get a chance at buying a GT3 RS. Dealers are shitty, nothing against the car
@@StevenYannino one was forced to buy a Taycan to get a GT3RS. It’s not how Porsche work. There was only a small number of RS models made and most went to long term valued customers, the same all luxury car makers do. Some went to famous people for promo purposes and the rest were allocated to the top dealers to offer on a first come first serve basis. Porsche sell themselves, they don’t need to play game to shift their inventory
Not really, except little bit more range there is not much that would current Taycan owners make to switch. I hoped for new Android software which Macan EV has.
@@JCizzleSoCal No and I am saying this as current Taycan Turbo owner. When you see the power consumption in these reviews they are similar to old Taycans, so battery size is main factor. It is 15% larger, but you usually use like 10-85% battery on long trips so in reality it is like 10-13% larger. Charge time is like 3-5 minutes better, again it is irrelevant on long 10 hour journeys. Power bump...well Turbo is already very powerful and when I tested Tesla Plaid it was too much. You cannot use that power on roads anyway because you will be dead in 5 seconds, it is good for passing tho. It is good evolution, not a significant revolution.
@hrtlik I have a Turbo S with the carbon pack and prefer its design to the new one (well the front at least). Not much to convince me to change it, other than a bit more power (which you really don't need unless taking it to track days) and more range, which to be fair does what I need most of the time anyway (just handy for longer road trips).
10mins to sort out activating the station, 18mins to charge 750km range unless the charger is occupied. I top up 750km range in 3mins everywhere,everytime for even much cheaper. Thank you.
Only just Headlights don't work for me.. Headlights in the previous generation was a lot better and so unique it was that they literally can be identified instantly...
I've actually wondered how Porsche will modernise their headlights as the technology becomes better and they dont need to be these big bulbous things that look like frog eyes that Porshce has become synonymous with. Looks like they are veering that way and yep, it looks less like a Porsche
@@livinagoodlife probably a lot like Tesla, sacrifice looks for lesser drag and more range. However trying to find the perfect balance between looks, identity and range is probably very important to Porsche. I feel Tesla really made it work with their new M3 Highland. The Ludicrious M3 also looks very nice. The EV Macan has great potential though as Long as it is priced reasonably.
Another great review. Rory is a pleasure to listen to. I would love to have this updated RWD Taycan. I did not understand the battery comments though. Changing the cathode from 622 to 811 NMC increases the energy density, but Rory said it increased the charging speed. However charging power is more a function of the anode design than the cathode.
No Disrespect, but watching Rory's car reviews to me feel like Watch the brother Vlog. I mean I don't get an in-depth look of the car, like see what the car looks like on the inside, it's practicality but rather the video is just showing Rory driving around having fun : (
Having owned one and lost a ton of money like so many customers have, the thought of doing it all over again does not fill me with much enthusiasm regardless of how good it is. It wouldn’t be so bad if Porsche rewarded the original owners who helped get the first one off the ground but even the dealers don’t want them.
@@madmcadder4536 I would say it’s a buyers market for second hand EV’s for sure. As a seller, it pains me to see how the original buyers have faired and I suggest many will not do it again which is why EV sales have fallen significantly.
well, you are buying a new car which counts for 30% value loss, that new car is in the luxury segment which only makes the loss more severe. now you want Porsche to reward you ? you must be english.
@@Parental92 40% in a few months, that’s way more that 30% over a few years of normal ownership- I would be delighted with your suggested loss. Dealerships are flooded with Taycans that owners are trying to offload to the point they literally cannot take any more. Pick any Porsche dealer and look at their stock- pages of Taycans. My point is that it’s a hard sell to convince those same buyers to do it all over again.!
@@adamuk73 I've genuinely seen EV's cruising at 20mph on the M6 between charging stations when they realise they have to drop their speeds to make it ...
@@jp6975 Sorry to break it to you, but yes I really have seen this a few times! EV's literally crawling into Warwick Services after moderate traffic and the odd delay. They were in the inside lane, hazard's on for one that I saw, another (months later) was clearly trying to reach Warwick and almost at a crawl. Cars and trucks having to avoid. Hope you enjoyed that beer! BTW how was Jesus?
Love your videos! Why did you omit the obvious competitor, the Tesla Model S, when talking about cars that massively outperform the Porsche for much lower price?
my 2022 Taycan has dropped 60% in value in 2.5 years so Porsche can keep this in the dealership. I love this car, its amazing to drive, feels great, but the hit in money for me was a deal breaker.
"why does this always happen with electric cars? You go there expecting to be seamless, and then this happens" You mean to say "why does this [always] happen with Ionity chargers? You expect them to be seamless, like Tesla's or FastNed's or MFG's or Sainsbury's (Kempower) but they are not like those" There's a reason Ionity has made a deal with some manufacturers, and it isn't because they are quality chargers. And the same can be said about GeniePoint, Instavolt, bpPulse, even Gridserve. There's a reason some chargers are better, and it really pays to avoid the shit ones so that they get their act together and change suppliers. If you had gone to a charger made by KemPower, you could have even got the charging curve in real time, and whether it was limited by the charger, the grid or the car itself.
Maybe, although in this case, as Rory said, the issue was with a previous reviewer switching the 'seamless charging' feature off in the test vehicle... once he turned it back on, it 'all just worked' as intended.
This is why the current value of the previous model has tanked. Saw another video of a guy stuck with his taycan as no one (even the dealership) would touch it.
If it is who I think it is, he leases his car anyway, so it doesn't matter, he will just give it back at the end of the lease deal 🤷♂️. 2nd hand, Taycans are now a bargain compared to new and still the best all round EV on the market (just don't expect Tesla efficiency on previous model).
Me and my girlfriend just test drove a new taycan 4s and as a GAS car only enthusaist i really appreciated the EV motor sounds when u gas it. Unlike tesla and lucid which have no cool sound at all . That for me really sold me with how unique it was. Still love my m4 comp but the taycan is a great eV.
Sure, there are some stupidly expensive, high-end EVs that lose a ton of money in depreciation - though, much in the same way that stupidly expensive, high-end combustion-engined cars do, too. For example, the Mercedes S350L d AMG Line Executive can be bought new for about £90,000 after discounts etc A 3 year old example with 56,000 miles sells at £38,980 = 43% residual value. A Porsche Taycan 4S can be bought new for about £86,500. A 3 year old example with 48,000 miles sells at £45,950 = 53% residual value. And, even at the 'sensible' end of the market… A brand new, entry-level VW Polo 1.0 petrol city car with an automatic gearbox can be bought for £20,712 after discounts. A 3 year old example with 56,000 miles sells at £13,244 = 64% residual value. The equivalent, brand new, 200 mile range Vauxhall Corsa-e city car with an automatic 'gearbox' can be bought for £19,795 after discounts. A 3 year old example with 41,000 miles sells at £11,690 = 59% residual value.
@@jonathantaylor1998the depreciation thing is such a meme. People don't seem to know it care much about what depreciation is and what factors go into it. 🤷
this is a gamechanger. the fast charging is INSANE and truly means you'll never have to charge it at home. I hope this tech will trickle down to daily commuters
That ratio will never happen (refill in 5 min for 600km-1000km highway range). The amounts of energy you have in 60l of petrol are just insane, that’s roughly 570kWh. The chargers currently max out at 350kW, 10-80%, 15 min works out to be an 125kWh battery. That’s roughly 250 mi/400km added per 15 min. I hope but don’t expect things getting much faster than this.
@@lightningblender true on the energy in a fuel tank, although it's hard to directly correlate them as electric power is much more efficient (if I remember correctly regular car engines have a maximum efficiency of around 40%)
@@silv3rArrow it is, comparing ranges is the way to go. That is true. But the point about refilling remains true. 1000km in 5 min would result in an average charging power of 2.5 MW. That’s pretty much never going to happen.
@@silv3rArrow In the time it takes to walk in & take a whizz, and walk back to the car, it can add ~150 miles of range... which is ~2.5hr of driving (or more) on the motorway... and I tend to prefer to stop every 2hr... so far me, EVs mean *less* time 'refueling', because it happens whilst I'm busy, rather than whilst I'm standing around holding the pump-handle...
Kyle tested it at 450 while driving at aggressively low highway speeds. That being said, a “real world” range test is not necessarily a road trip context. Most “real world” driving is very much a mix of highway and city, which means the Taycan should very much be able to hit 400-450 miles for most peoples’ real world commutes.
@@jayem8981 I don’t think 400-450 miles on a regular commute is realistic. He was hypermiling to get that. He has stated publicly that it’s a 340 mile car for normal useage.
Industry problem across brands: Manufacturers: Our batteries charges super fast so you can quickly charge anywhere. Also Manufacturers: Here's an extremely heavy battery with more range because actually you cannot charge anywhere in a reasonable time.
The lack of decent fast-charging infrastructure is a UK issue (at least, Europe has *far* better fast-charging networks, compared to the 50kW 'standard' chargers we've got at services). Also, charging speed scales with battery size (bigger batteries can charge faster), so even if they fitted a smaller battery, it wouldn't actually charge any quicker (you'd just get less range).
@@logicalChimp That's a good observation on the battery size. I meant to say that more range = more weight, which is counter productive. And as for the infra, I have tried in france and germany with some rentals and the limiting factor was the car's tech. (an ID4 and a Polestar 2). None of them maxed out the fast charger, but forced me to stay for 20 minutes with a cold bad coffee in a highway station 😅
Love the range on offer with this car that at least makes it practical and more on par with my petrol or diesel car and the fill up is also better being able to charge at such a rapid rate. The only issue is for what is a four door hatch with poor styling ( in my opinion) the cost is still too much and would need to come down substantially for me to shift from a petrol car.. depreciation ring the main issue for me as this will go the same way as the previous Taycan
11:34 yeah this is exactly why electric cars don't hold value well, at least here in the States. did a road trip around California (which is supposed to have the best infrastructure) and was constantly encountering broken chargers, weirdly slow chargers, frozen UI screens, credit card reader errors, or other EV owners taking up a charging stall but not actually charging
When do you start focusing on software as much as everything else in these reviews? -21 Taycan with buggy software was why I let it go, but I've heard some new updates regarding that but it's rarely mentioned anywhere.
Is it a daft punk song ? Rectification. I wrot it down before hearing you saying it. I know you would open the video by the song itself. Just like i heard it.
Don't let the charging cable touch the body work! Or when you return it will have worn through the PPF or taken the paint off where it has been touching. The cable gets a little warm to the touch, no problem. But it also hums, vibrates & pulses. You can feel it if you grip the cable in your hand! 20minutes of this while you have a wee & cup of tea!
I thought you all complained about EVs being too expensive... make your mind up. If you aren't happy with the depreciation just don't buy new and get yourself a bargain on the used market. Don't know why that needs explaining
@@mst4314 EVs are too expensive, but I’ll still buy another one, not a Tesla though as it was a piece of junk. But I wouldn’t ever buy a 2nd hand EV over a few years old, it’s just too risky.
@thunderbug8640 to be fair everything is too expensive these days. For my situation, EVs are just cheaper to own than equivalent ICE cars. I save so much money on fuel, tax and servicing
510 miles is a BIG stretch. In WLTP-standard, which should be standard everywhere, it says 424 miles which is much more believable… Even then it will probably go even 10-20% shorter depending on the driving.
Tell me you've been living under a rock without telling me you've been living under a rock: "Porsche charging at 320kW is a world record." This isn't even funny; as a pro car reviewer, you should know that most newcomers chinese high-end brands, are charging at 450/500kW now. Even there in Europe you have the Xpeng G9 charging at 400 kW. You just never bothered to get updated about new EV tech.
Nice review, thanks. But dear Porsche for those of us not living in LARGE USA, how about a smaller performance EV. Taycan is just shy of 5 metres long. Try parking that or driving that on small English country roads, rural towns. Hmmm.
Rory’s spot on here, 1000hp EV saloons are all well and good but really it’s the dedicated electric sports car that is needed to see whether driving enthusiasts have a place in the electric future headed our way. If they can be fun and engaging with a modest 200hp then it’s something to get excited about.
09:12 Rory explicitly states that the 510 miles of range is from the WLTP, _not Porsche._ So, for once, the VW Automotive Group cannot be blamed for this absurd number. Also bear in mind that the WLTP gives ratings based on how the car does in their test, and _extrapolating the result._ The WLTP test route is NOT going to be like the roads people will actually drive on. If the new Taycan did exceptionally well on the test route (e.g. for whatever reason, it was better able to make use of regen etc) then that will result in a high figure. In the real world, it's unlikely this new Taycan gets anywhere near 510 miles. On a perfect day with few hills + hypermiling, getting above 350 miles deosn't sound too unreasonable based on the Gen 1 cars' endurance.
Test that range on long motorway drives in winter using heater and lights. Or in the summer using air conditioning. I doubt it will do even 300 miles. That’s being generous. Some of us travel long distances everyday.
Modern EVs have heat pump and double glass windows so they are better insulated. They take heat from motors and battery and heat cabin with that. AC is not that much a problem as well since the motor is not that hot as in ICE cars. Therefore not much energy is needed for cooling.
@@hrtlik LMFAO yea right, have you never seen the tests in the winter. These cars ranges are decimated. It’s nearly as bad in a hot summer. If the motorways you are on are hilly this makes things even worse. Also Rory demonstrated the charging problems. My car does 400 miles on a motorway no matter what the weather and takes less than 10 mins to refuel. Electric cars are a gimmick and not the solution. Try imagining the infrastructure needed to recharge 10’s of thousands of cars at the same time. Even generating enough electricity would be a problem let alone transferring it.
@@classicraceruk1337 Yes, the range is worse but not because of heating or cooling but because of battery, my car is actively heating and preheating the battery so winter range is less affected. It is a part of a solution. On average car is standing about 97% time and average commute is like 30 miles. You do not need to fast charge every time, you can slowly charge once a week at home, work or shopping mall. And once you have electric car, suddenly you have much use for your solar panels and then you may change your fossil heating for heat pump as well. If as a humanity we do not stop burning fossil fuels, our grand children will have very hard time. You are not saving planet, you are saving comfort and similar life style for your descendants.
Different car but illustrates the point. My Polestar 2 in winter, pouring rain 3 degs, light wipers everything going. Used 5% of the total energy on heating and lighting over a 150 mile journey. Unless its really cold, like minus 10, winter range in the UK is about 10%. If you preheat the battery it is less.
Peak is, however, not actually relevant in real world. Porsches (and VW in general) are known for a very flat and efficient curve when it comes to recharging.
From a US perspective, WLT is at least 25% higher than US EPA numbers so it's more like around the low 300s and I would like to know if Porsche is going to use our NACS as plug standard instead of the horrible CCS. Porsche announced they were going to NACS sometime in 2025 and if they go with the CCS it will be another Tycan flop in North America. Tesla Model YP is $40K after a purchase credit and it is faster, harder stronger, cheaper. It also has a real charging network
It isn't that easy. Porsche changed the battery cells to ones with more cobalt and nickel in them. This results in a battery which can handle high charging speeds and temperatures better. However both materials aren't the cheapest, so the battery is very likely a lot more expensive
510 miles of city driving on one full charge doesn’t matter as no one is doing 510 miles in a city between charges. Mixed driving matters more, but where range ultimately matters is pure highway driving, as that’s where people over more distance typically.
The previous Taycan was a maintenance nightmare. Resale value tanked like no other Porsche (well excluding the 996). Hope they got the e-kinks out of this one!
Really good review but I'm yet to see any car guy says he loves any EV car. It's just not doing for the true enthusiasts. And well off, non car people are realising their value drops like a rock. A 2020 Taycan is now worth 40% of the original price. In year it will lose another 10%. I'm sticking with my Manual F-type V6 and all of its glory 😊
Good looking car as it now looks like a larger Porsche. I like the fact that the infotainment system is built in and not huge and in your face screen dominating the dash. Unfortunately I will never own one as it would be a second mortgage for me and I don't agree with Autotraders blatant advertising of its finance/lease business through your reviews Rory.
I had a 4S with the bigger battery and would struggle to get 200 miles range, even in the summer so I'm VERY dubious that the new version can suddenly do twice the distance. I'd be amazed if it can do 300 miles. Also, the ability to charge fast is awesome but my experience of Ionity UK charging points is that they very rarely run to their full capacity meaning that it doesn't matter if your car can accept over 300kw/h if the charging point is being throttled to only give you 50kw/h. It was my biggest frustration of EV ownership and wasted so much of my time either in waiting for other people to finish so I could start charging, or waiting so much longer for the car to charge than advertised.
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Still the best headlights to rip out for growing your medicinal plants 😂
Urban Farmers United 🌬
ive heard that alot but why is that?
@@Fuck90Percent low heat, cant be detected by police helicopters. A bit like LED spotlights vs Halogen which emit excess heat. Your house would glow like a Christmas tree on the heat camera
Porsche should enter the game at this point, overpriced Porsche branded lamps
@@dengernoodle4391🌬
The sales figures will be great...bolstered by existing Porsche owners buying three at a time, just to get the chance of owning a GT3 RS.
If buying a Taycan could get me a GT3 RS that's a done deal. LOL
@@venom5809 not just one, you need to buy around 10 porches in order to get the chance to buy a GT3 RS, with the dealer's markup.
You don't need to buy any previous Porsches to get a GT3 RS. it's just that it's in extremely high demand, and they're prioritising existing customers.
Trust me people love the Taycan, sure the depreciation sucks but no one expected these to hold value or appreciate, and it’s not like 99.9% of luxury cars hold their value anyway
Porsche copied Ferrari with this corruption
This is only tangentially related to this video, but I saw a 911 Dakar at a dealership when I was walking through Barcelona and that made my fkn day. Such a gorgeous car.
i haven't seen one yet. someday. maybe. i hope.
@@Meatsweats_o_O Yep, recently saw one at the NYC auto show! $240K. CRAZY PRICE but I still want one!
Yep, recently saw one at the NYC auto show! $240K. CRAZY PRICE but I still want one!
Imo the dakar is the ugliest Porsche.
510 mile range? I mean, VW have never lied about their figures before...
City range - mixed is 400 and if he did 320-330 on motorways, it seems achievable.
You do realize even the older taycans exceeded over 300 miles of range even though they were advertised much lower right?
VW sold Porsche
Out of Spec got over 450miles with 4 people on board, granted they were pretty much hypermiling but seems like it should do 350miles at high motorway speeds and given the charging rate that should be more than enough for most people (that can afford it).
@@ghadeersyriac VW AG holds 75% of Porsche. Stop spreading lies on the internet.
Excellent review. Fun to watch/listen to and yet very informative also. Well done! Well done Porsche for making a great Taycan so much better.
Thank you for leaving that charging blooper, reminds me of RichRebuilds video of road tripping his Rivian
The Taycan Cross Turismo is my aspirational EV; it's like what my Mach-E GT wants to be when it grows up.
The interior dash is immaculately sublime.
disagree
It looks even better in person. Absolutely gorgeous car from the inside and out.
Nice.
When are you getting Porsche Macan EV for full driving review?
nice ending music tbh wasnt expecting it, congrats on the editor!
Do you know the songs name?
@@xmodgt1419 2050 - The Last Dance
Thanks for posting the song!
@@92kosta thank you, if you come to my country I will invite you for a cup of coffee or a bear, up to you!
Fastest car on the market..
..for depreciation.
Which is great for us! Cant wait to buy a Used one in two years for a bargain.
@@atthelord i do hope that goes well for you brother cause I hear insurance for used EV's is insane 🙏
@@Khaladkar2tv oh damn! I never knew that. I’ll make sure to check it out. Thx for the heads up!
@@Khaladkar2tv it's much less for EVs than combustion cars,at least it was for me.
@@sorinelpustiu5674i guess it depends on the country - in the US some insurance companies wont even insure EV's
Rory is such a good presenter, seems a lot more relaxed with Autotrader than he was on Top Gear. Great review as usual.......
318 kw is insane...... Big ups to Porsche for actually achieving that.
what porsche got to do with it? Its either LG of Catl that makes those batteries. In previous version it was LG chem in Poland that made the cells.
@@hagestad It's a mixture of cell-chemistry, battery-management system, and supplier-requirements from Porsche (if Porsche didn't specify it, LG / CATL wouldn't have made it for them)
@@hagestada lot. Everyone is using CATL batteries. Most manufacturers are not hitting Porsche charging curve performance. I know people want to give praise to the Chinese company, but no no, give Porsche engineers the credit they deserve here too.
Why are these chargers so poorly designed, no canopy and that cable is scratching all your paint whilst you're charging!
yeah, what would happen in heavy rain?
It’s fine. Chargers don’t scratch the paint. Doh.
@@manoz6194 chargers work fine in the rain, and unlike petrol/diesel pumps, you don't have to stand there holding it... so unless they covered the entire walk from the charger to the services building, you're going to get wet regardless.
@@logicalChimp that's really not a good point since no one is going to hold a petrol pump for more than a minute or two. I just filled up my petrol car in the pouring rain, didn't get wet at all
@@manoz6194canopies are expensive. But the nice places do have them, especially if they can install solar into them. But realistically, you should only be out of your car to charge for around 10 seconds max. And the rain would probably help keep the temps down and help your charging session lol.
For all the complaints about charging station issues, this is not high on my list haha
So, a few things.
One Porsche isn't responsible for WLT range tests. No manufacturer is.
Whether you like or dislike gov. MPG or range tests - they provide a basis for comparison and so are useful.
The real way to measure these cars is by looking at the miles per kilowatt hour. I ignore most of the other numbers.
This test got about 3.2. That's ok, it's not that good though. The math is simple enough 3.2 miles per kilowatt hour and 100 kilowatt hour battery is 3.2 x 100 or 320 range.
For example Edmunds test of the Lucid got 438 miles on 118 KWH battery which is 3.7 miles per kilowatt.
So Porsche is competitive here but def not best in class...yet.
But you also need to count that in such test ride like this one, he drove it hard. Testing the power, 0-60 ..etc. So, If you could be gentler, the range could be closer to the estimated one.
Also manufacturers do their own tests for WLTP. Some are conservative, some (tesla) arent...
You're right, except that you're using one data point where at least the official testing is standardized and repeated - which means you're kinda invalidating your first point. The efficiency is what matters, but over normal usage, which we don't have data for now. Therefore, the WLT gives us a basis for comparison, at least.
400W regen - so impressed😂
Yep that is pretty funny number , agree :)
Guess it should be 400KW
150,000 units sold!! probably 70,000 of them were sold to people who wanted to own GT 3 cars and wanted allocations
Bro FUCK the GT3RS 😂😂 Taycan buyers wanted Taycans
The GT3RS was made only for the track, a Taycan or Bentley, Rolls, Aston, AMG, etc shits on it for a luxury boss daily driver
@@hovanesmarkaryan896 what? a car that is not meant to be luxurious is not luxurious?
the GT3 would slap those car in terms of performance any day of the week.
@@hovanesmarkaryan896 all I’m saying is many people were forced to buy a Taycan maybe even multiple units to get a chance at buying a GT3 RS. Dealers are shitty, nothing against the car
@@mineralwater6736 Taycan GT was faster around Laguna Seca than the 992 GT3RS and 991 GT2RS 💪🏼
@@StevenYannino one was forced to buy a Taycan to get a GT3RS. It’s not how Porsche work. There was only a small number of RS models made and most went to long term valued customers, the same all luxury car makers do. Some went to famous people for promo purposes and the rest were allocated to the top dealers to offer on a first come first serve basis.
Porsche sell themselves, they don’t need to play game to shift their inventory
Always like Rory's reviews and this one is great too. Still not fully sold on EV's, but this car sure sells it!
Values of 1st gen Taycans just dropped to 0 $ 😅
Not really, except little bit more range there is not much that would current Taycan owners make to switch. I hoped for new Android software which Macan EV has.
@@hrtlikThere’s a huge difference in range, charge time and a bump in power! That’s 3 solid reasons to get the 2nd generation. Hahaha
If so that’s the time to buy then because the first generation is still a good car for a lot less than the new one.
@@JCizzleSoCal No and I am saying this as current Taycan Turbo owner. When you see the power consumption in these reviews they are similar to old Taycans, so battery size is main factor. It is 15% larger, but you usually use like 10-85% battery on long trips so in reality it is like 10-13% larger. Charge time is like 3-5 minutes better, again it is irrelevant on long 10 hour journeys. Power bump...well Turbo is already very powerful and when I tested Tesla Plaid it was too much. You cannot use that power on roads anyway because you will be dead in 5 seconds, it is good for passing tho.
It is good evolution, not a significant
revolution.
@hrtlik I have a Turbo S with the carbon pack and prefer its design to the new one (well the front at least). Not much to convince me to change it, other than a bit more power (which you really don't need unless taking it to track days) and more range, which to be fair does what I need most of the time anyway (just handy for longer road trips).
10mins to sort out activating the station, 18mins to charge 750km range unless the charger is occupied. I top up 750km range in 3mins everywhere,everytime for even much cheaper. Thank you.
Only just Headlights don't work for me.. Headlights in the previous generation was a lot better and so unique it was that they literally can be identified instantly...
...and stolen easily.
I've actually wondered how Porsche will modernise their headlights as the technology becomes better and they dont need to be these big bulbous things that look like frog eyes that Porshce has become synonymous with. Looks like they are veering that way and yep, it looks less like a Porsche
True, but new headlights looks more like other Porsche models.
@@livinagoodlife probably a lot like Tesla, sacrifice looks for lesser drag and more range. However trying to find the perfect balance between looks, identity and range is probably very important to Porsche. I feel Tesla really made it work with their new M3 Highland. The Ludicrious M3 also looks very nice. The EV Macan has great potential though as Long as it is priced reasonably.
Another great review. Rory is a pleasure to listen to. I would love to have this updated RWD Taycan. I did not understand the battery comments though. Changing the cathode from 622 to 811 NMC increases the energy density, but Rory said it increased the charging speed. However charging power is more a function of the anode design than the cathode.
No Disrespect, but watching Rory's car reviews to me feel like Watch the brother Vlog. I mean I don't get an in-depth look of the car, like see what the car looks like on the inside, it's practicality but rather the video is just showing Rory driving around having fun : (
You watch Mr Watson for that kind of review.. I agree with what you're saying, but I enjoy both as Rory's reviews have a more arty approach..🤜🏼🤛🏼
510 miles, yeah that claim needs to be tested in the real world....
He did say in the city. It's much lower at highway speeds. I think it's believable, EVs range is much higher at lower speeds.
Considering it has rimacs tech now, which is the best EV tech in the world, it should be right up there
@@jghall00 well, just like ICE cars, electric cars should be giving City, Highway and Combined figures.
Unless they already do that I'm not aware of?
@Patient_Lion_BS they do that already
@@Patient_Lion_BS most EV makers share that info.
Having owned one and lost a ton of money like so many customers have, the thought of doing it all over again does not fill me with much enthusiasm regardless of how good it is. It wouldn’t be so bad if Porsche rewarded the original owners who helped get the first one off the ground but even the dealers don’t want them.
It is only recently that 'luxury' cars have not plummeted in value as soon as they were driven out of the showroom.
That's interesting indeed. The second hand EV market seems to have many devalued and not to say unwanted vehicles for sale.
@@madmcadder4536 I would say it’s a buyers market for second hand EV’s for sure. As a seller, it pains me to see how the original buyers have faired and I suggest many will not do it again which is why EV sales have fallen significantly.
well, you are buying a new car which counts for 30% value loss, that new car is in the luxury segment which only makes the loss more severe. now you want Porsche to reward you ? you must be english.
@@Parental92 40% in a few months, that’s way more that 30% over a few years of normal ownership- I would be delighted with your suggested loss. Dealerships are flooded with Taycans that owners are trying to offload to the point they literally cannot take any more. Pick any Porsche dealer and look at their stock- pages of Taycans. My point is that it’s a hard sell to convince those same buyers to do it all over again.!
I heard a new Taycan was coming out so decided against leasing the current one
ended up with an i4 M50 lease and hopefully in 3 years a Taycan Turbo 😅
I see plenty of Taycans in Farnham, perfectly suited to the new 20mph speed limit in the town.
They're very easy to drive at 20mph. That's one of the advantages of EVs
@@adamuk73 I've genuinely seen EV's cruising at 20mph on the M6 between charging stations when they realise they have to drop their speeds to make it ...
@@MyNameIsJeeeff 20mph.. on the M6.. yeah, and Jesus bought me a beer on Easter Sunday.
@@jp6975 Sorry to break it to you, but yes I really have seen this a few times! EV's literally crawling into Warwick Services after moderate traffic and the odd delay. They were in the inside lane, hazard's on for one that I saw, another (months later) was clearly trying to reach Warwick and almost at a crawl. Cars and trucks having to avoid.
Hope you enjoyed that beer!
BTW how was Jesus?
Will definitely be achieving its wltp claim then.
Love your videos! Why did you omit the obvious competitor, the Tesla Model S, when talking about cars that massively outperform the Porsche for much lower price?
Love my new taycan! What a blessing
@@tau3ahamakhoa how’s it been so far?
so pleased your blessed, you deserve it im sure, a wonderful n deserving human being.🤮
my 2022 Taycan has dropped 60% in value in 2.5 years so Porsche can keep this in the dealership. I love this car, its amazing to drive, feels great, but the hit in money for me was a deal breaker.
"why does this always happen with electric cars? You go there expecting to be seamless, and then this happens"
You mean to say "why does this [always] happen with Ionity chargers? You expect them to be seamless, like Tesla's or FastNed's or MFG's or Sainsbury's (Kempower) but they are not like those"
There's a reason Ionity has made a deal with some manufacturers, and it isn't because they are quality chargers.
And the same can be said about GeniePoint, Instavolt, bpPulse, even Gridserve.
There's a reason some chargers are better, and it really pays to avoid the shit ones so that they get their act together and change suppliers.
If you had gone to a charger made by KemPower, you could have even got the charging curve in real time, and whether it was limited by the charger, the grid or the car itself.
Maybe, although in this case, as Rory said, the issue was with a previous reviewer switching the 'seamless charging' feature off in the test vehicle... once he turned it back on, it 'all just worked' as intended.
As an MG4 owner, I’m able to confirm you can get the (ahem) “rear wheel steer” to activate on the exit of damp roundabouts. 😉
So... no conversation about the old Tycan´s reliability issues?!
On my way to the co-op for a lottery ticket now 😂❤
This is why the current value of the previous model has tanked. Saw another video of a guy stuck with his taycan as no one (even the dealership) would touch it.
Why? Why won’t the dealership touch it?
@@samwilson745 It's just not worth it for them. Nobody is buying them.
Porsche buyers like the latest and greatest...they're probably waiting for this to be released. More deals for those of us that shop 2nd hand.
My heart weeps for him 😢
If it is who I think it is, he leases his car anyway, so it doesn't matter, he will just give it back at the end of the lease deal 🤷♂️. 2nd hand, Taycans are now a bargain compared to new and still the best all round EV on the market (just don't expect Tesla efficiency on previous model).
Great review. It is amazing to see how quickly these EV are improving!
I so wish I could drive that car. Looks amazing.
Me and my girlfriend just test drove a new taycan 4s and as a GAS car only enthusaist i really appreciated the EV motor sounds when u gas it. Unlike tesla and lucid which have no cool sound at all . That for me really sold me with how unique it was. Still love my m4 comp but the taycan is a great eV.
The proclaimed 510-mile range will fall even faster than this car's resale value!
used turbos s tycan is selling for around $100000 now
Mine is rated 230 or so (standard battery), and I get 300. Could imagine I would get up to 600 with this new model with my driving.
Transfer the number in miles to km and you have the realistic range, being 510 km.
Sure, there are some stupidly expensive, high-end EVs that lose a ton of money in depreciation - though, much in the same way that stupidly expensive, high-end combustion-engined cars do, too.
For example, the Mercedes S350L d AMG Line Executive can be bought new for about £90,000 after discounts etc
A 3 year old example with 56,000 miles sells at £38,980 = 43% residual value.
A Porsche Taycan 4S can be bought new for about £86,500.
A 3 year old example with 48,000 miles sells at £45,950 = 53% residual value.
And, even at the 'sensible' end of the market…
A brand new, entry-level VW Polo 1.0 petrol city car with an automatic gearbox can be bought for £20,712 after discounts.
A 3 year old example with 56,000 miles sells at £13,244 = 64% residual value.
The equivalent, brand new, 200 mile range Vauxhall Corsa-e city car with an automatic 'gearbox' can be bought for £19,795 after discounts.
A 3 year old example with 41,000 miles sells at £11,690 = 59% residual value.
@@jonathantaylor1998the depreciation thing is such a meme. People don't seem to know it care much about what depreciation is and what factors go into it. 🤷
this is a gamechanger. the fast charging is INSANE and truly means you'll never have to charge it at home. I hope this tech will trickle down to daily commuters
The World Record for fastest EV Charging is hold by Rimac Nevera with up to 500kw. But yes, in realistic buying range, the Taycan is the fastest.
That intro was perfect🔥🔥
I can't believe it's been nearly half a decade since this car came out
Love the new substation built there for the 3x chargers 😂
Without the tears, it just looks like a Panamera. Goodness Porsche
I really would like battery tech to massively improve. You can fill a 60 liter tank, pay and be on your way in less than 5 minutes…
That ratio will never happen (refill in 5 min for 600km-1000km highway range). The amounts of energy you have in 60l of petrol are just insane, that’s roughly 570kWh. The chargers currently max out at 350kW, 10-80%, 15 min works out to be an 125kWh battery. That’s roughly 250 mi/400km added per 15 min.
I hope but don’t expect things getting much faster than this.
@@lightningblender true on the energy in a fuel tank, although it's hard to directly correlate them as electric power is much more efficient (if I remember correctly regular car engines have a maximum efficiency of around 40%)
@@silv3rArrow it is, comparing ranges is the way to go. That is true. But the point about refilling remains true. 1000km in 5 min would result in an average charging power of 2.5 MW. That’s pretty much never going to happen.
@@lightningblender well we’re all a bit screwed then 😂
@@silv3rArrow In the time it takes to walk in & take a whizz, and walk back to the car, it can add ~150 miles of range... which is ~2.5hr of driving (or more) on the motorway... and I tend to prefer to stop every 2hr... so far me, EVs mean *less* time 'refueling', because it happens whilst I'm busy, rather than whilst I'm standing around holding the pump-handle...
It's ashame that no insurance company wants to insure them
Don’t believe everything you read in the trash media
That's not true, but don't let that stop you posting.
Tesla insurance will insure them
Why’s that then oh wise one
Why’s that then oh wise one
Is that WLTP or EPA? WLTP is highly inflated, what is the EPA range?
The real-world range is about 340 miles. Misleading, Rory, to use such a clickbait title.
Thank you. Source, please?
@@DrRussellKyle Connor, who extensively tested pre -production cars.
@@andrewhurstcars thank you Sir
Kyle tested it at 450 while driving at aggressively low highway speeds. That being said, a “real world” range test is not necessarily a road trip context. Most “real world” driving is very much a mix of highway and city, which means the Taycan should very much be able to hit 400-450 miles for most peoples’ real world commutes.
@@jayem8981 I don’t think 400-450 miles on a regular commute is realistic. He was hypermiling to get that. He has stated publicly that it’s a 340 mile car for normal useage.
And what about the UI? How smart is the navigation? The previous Taycan had glaring shortcomings in these areas when compared to even a Tesla Model 3.
Industry problem across brands:
Manufacturers: Our batteries charges super fast so you can quickly charge anywhere.
Also Manufacturers: Here's an extremely heavy battery with more range because actually you cannot charge anywhere in a reasonable time.
The battery got lighter than before. But I think it will take at least 10 years to achieve truly light batteries.
The lack of decent fast-charging infrastructure is a UK issue (at least, Europe has *far* better fast-charging networks, compared to the 50kW 'standard' chargers we've got at services). Also, charging speed scales with battery size (bigger batteries can charge faster), so even if they fitted a smaller battery, it wouldn't actually charge any quicker (you'd just get less range).
@@logicalChimp That's a good observation on the battery size. I meant to say that more range = more weight, which is counter productive.
And as for the infra, I have tried in france and germany with some rentals and the limiting factor was the car's tech. (an ID4 and a Polestar 2).
None of them maxed out the fast charger, but forced me to stay for 20 minutes with a cold bad coffee in a highway station 😅
Will it stay out of the repair garage though?
I’ll swap it for my ZX Spectrum in 12 months
😂😂😂 I’m old enough to remember those as well! 👍🏻
That will only work if you throw in Jet Pack and a cassette deck.
@@jp6975 No Games inc!!
@jp6975 oh I remember Jet Pack, building that rocket 😂
Love the range on offer with this car that at least makes it practical and more on par with my petrol or diesel car and the fill up is also better being able to charge at such a rapid rate. The only issue is for what is a four door hatch with poor styling ( in my opinion) the cost is still too much and would need to come down substantially for me to shift from a petrol car.. depreciation ring the main issue for me as this will go the same way as the previous Taycan
‘It comes with a new noise” 🤔Milk float 😂😂😂
11:34 yeah this is exactly why electric cars don't hold value well, at least here in the States. did a road trip around California (which is supposed to have the best infrastructure) and was constantly encountering broken chargers, weirdly slow chargers, frozen UI screens, credit card reader errors, or other EV owners taking up a charging stall but not actually charging
30 seconds haha……..Thought it was only the McMaster had issues lol
The thing with electric cars is that you have to read the instructions. Rory didn't did he. As for that prat McMAster...........
@@kevinashurst634to be fair, his vids are somewhat amusing and he does seem like a genuinely nice person.
When do you start focusing on software as much as everything else in these reviews? -21 Taycan with buggy software was why I let it go, but I've heard some new updates regarding that but it's rarely mentioned anywhere.
Is it a daft punk song ?
Rectification. I wrot it down before hearing you saying it. I know you would open the video by the song itself. Just like i heard it.
Don't let the charging cable touch the body work! Or when you return it will have worn through the PPF or taken the paint off where it has been touching. The cable gets a little warm to the touch, no problem. But it also hums, vibrates & pulses. You can feel it if you grip the cable in your hand! 20minutes of this while you have a wee & cup of tea!
Beautiful work Porsche!!! Love the styling of the Taycan.
does this mean we will be seeing an updated etron soon ?
The depreciation machine
as any car..
I thought you all complained about EVs being too expensive... make your mind up. If you aren't happy with the depreciation just don't buy new and get yourself a bargain on the used market. Don't know why that needs explaining
@@christianolsen9781 as most cars*, but the taycan is in its own league when it comes to depreciation. I would NEVER buy an EV. Leasing is the way imo
@@mst4314 EVs are too expensive, but I’ll still buy another one, not a Tesla though as it was a piece of junk. But I wouldn’t ever buy a 2nd hand EV over a few years old, it’s just too risky.
@thunderbug8640 to be fair everything is too expensive these days. For my situation, EVs are just cheaper to own than equivalent ICE cars. I save so much money on fuel, tax and servicing
510 miles is a BIG stretch. In WLTP-standard, which should be standard everywhere, it says 424 miles which is much more believable… Even then it will probably go even 10-20% shorter depending on the driving.
harder, better, faster, more depreciation 👍👍
How much did the charge cost ?
Tell me you've been living under a rock without telling me you've been living under a rock: "Porsche charging at 320kW is a world record." This isn't even funny; as a pro car reviewer, you should know that most newcomers chinese high-end brands, are charging at 450/500kW now. Even there in Europe you have the Xpeng G9 charging at 400 kW. You just never bothered to get updated about new EV tech.
Hey, now you're beginning to see how biased reviewers are. All azz-kissing, if not, Porsche won't call you back for a review.
Nice review, thanks. But dear Porsche for those of us not living in LARGE USA, how about a smaller performance EV. Taycan is just shy of 5 metres long. Try parking that or driving that on small English country roads, rural towns. Hmmm.
Came for the comments
Rory’s spot on here, 1000hp EV saloons are all well and good but really it’s the dedicated electric sports car that is needed to see whether driving enthusiasts have a place in the electric future headed our way. If they can be fun and engaging with a modest 200hp then it’s something to get excited about.
Porsche always remains the GOAT !!
09:12 Rory explicitly states that the 510 miles of range is from the WLTP, _not Porsche._ So, for once, the VW Automotive Group cannot be blamed for this absurd number.
Also bear in mind that the WLTP gives ratings based on how the car does in their test, and _extrapolating the result._ The WLTP test route is NOT going to be like the roads people will actually drive on.
If the new Taycan did exceptionally well on the test route (e.g. for whatever reason, it was better able to make use of regen etc) then that will result in a high figure.
In the real world, it's unlikely this new Taycan gets anywhere near 510 miles. On a perfect day with few hills + hypermiling, getting above 350 miles deosn't sound too unreasonable based on the Gen 1 cars' endurance.
Test that range on long motorway drives in winter using heater and lights. Or in the summer using air conditioning. I doubt it will do even 300 miles. That’s being generous. Some of us travel long distances everyday.
It's BS and overly optimistic just like the ID7. VW never lies....
Modern EVs have heat pump and double glass windows so they are better insulated. They take heat from motors and battery and heat cabin with that. AC is not that much a problem as well since the motor is not that hot as in ICE cars. Therefore not much energy is needed for cooling.
@@hrtlik LMFAO yea right, have you never seen the tests in the winter. These cars ranges are decimated. It’s nearly as bad in a hot summer. If the motorways you are on are hilly this makes things even worse. Also Rory demonstrated the charging problems. My car does 400 miles on a motorway no matter what the weather and takes less than 10 mins to refuel. Electric cars are a gimmick and not the solution. Try imagining the infrastructure needed to recharge 10’s of thousands of cars at the same time. Even generating enough electricity would be a problem let alone transferring it.
@@classicraceruk1337 Yes, the range is worse but not because of heating or cooling but because of battery, my car is actively heating and preheating the battery so winter range is less affected. It is a part of a solution. On average car is standing about 97% time and average commute is like 30 miles. You do not need to fast charge every time, you can slowly charge once a week at home, work or shopping mall. And once you have electric car, suddenly you have much use for your solar panels and then you may change your fossil heating for heat pump as well.
If as a humanity we do not stop burning fossil fuels, our grand children will have very hard time. You are not saving planet, you are saving comfort and similar life style for your descendants.
Different car but illustrates the point. My Polestar 2 in winter, pouring rain 3 degs, light wipers everything going. Used 5% of the total energy on heating and lighting over a 150 mile journey. Unless its really cold, like minus 10, winter range in the UK is about 10%. If you preheat the battery it is less.
It would be gr8 if they started retrofitting a flat 6 turbo to the old cars to make them saleable...I'd buy one then! 👍🏻😁😎
Chinese electric cars like Zeekr and Li Auto can charge up to 540 kW, so it's far from record
Peak is, however, not actually relevant in real world. Porsches (and VW in general) are known for a very flat and efficient curve when it comes to recharging.
😂😂 sure buddy and who told you that china?? yeah because they would never lie.
From a US perspective, WLT is at least 25% higher than US EPA numbers so it's more like around the low 300s and I would like to know if Porsche is going to use our NACS as plug standard instead of the horrible CCS. Porsche announced they were going to NACS sometime in 2025 and if they go with the CCS it will be another Tycan flop in North America. Tesla Model YP is $40K after a purchase credit and it is faster, harder stronger, cheaper. It also has a real charging network
10:15 that's why Tesla's Tesla. Software and the charging network with amazing ease.
Channel is starting to go crazy with the editing these days. Porche gotta bring those tear drop light back though, that 1st Tycan was it.
It may well charge faster but that puts more wear and tear on the life of that battery pack, nothing is all rosey when it comes to e.v's.💩
It isn't that easy. Porsche changed the battery cells to ones with more cobalt and nickel in them. This results in a battery which can handle high charging speeds and temperatures better. However both materials aren't the cheapest, so the battery is very likely a lot more expensive
Most of the time they're charged on 7kW chargers. The fast chargers are used for long trips only tbh
I will order 5 of these to get a chance for gt3 rs and cover the depreciacion with some urban farming
As if the first generation Taycan wasn't already fked by depreciation. This is the final nail in the coffin for all those early buyers.
Coffins don’t use nails anymore for ecological reasons
Tesla also depreciates like hell so stop crying like Porsche is the only one.
@@mineralwater6736I wish that was true, I can’t see any cheap Teslas
@@jsanders100 30k is not cheap for you??
510 miles of city driving on one full charge doesn’t matter as no one is doing 510 miles in a city between charges. Mixed driving matters more, but where range ultimately matters is pure highway driving, as that’s where people over more distance typically.
I can smell the depreciation through my iPad.
why do they go down in value
The previous Taycan was a maintenance nightmare. Resale value tanked like no other Porsche (well excluding the 996). Hope they got the e-kinks out of this one!
How many miles!? Lol
Great informative video - as usual…
The fastest depreciating car on the planet earth
In the UK and USA the #1 fastest depreciating cars are both ICE. Whoops 😬
how come
did you pre condition battery?
Lets be honest though no one actually buys a taycan they just get them as company cars and bin them off at the end of the lease
Nobody wants to own an electric beetle
Really good review but I'm yet to see any car guy says he loves any EV car. It's just not doing for the true enthusiasts. And well off, non car people are realising their value drops like a rock. A 2020 Taycan is now worth 40% of the original price. In year it will lose another 10%. I'm sticking with my Manual F-type V6 and all of its glory 😊
The king of depreciation. Loses about $200 a day minimum.
Be glad you don't own a MB S-class, or BMW 7-series. They depreciate FAST.
No cordless charge pad or place for your phone??
Don't forget "most depreciated"!
Please provide consumption and range also in metric system not only in miles.
Transfer the number in miles to km's and you have the correct range. 300 miles claimed range is 300 km range in the real world.
Could you tell them to not calling it Turbo
OK... so could you tell NVIDIA`s grafic card "GeForce TURBO RTX " not to calling
it Turbo 😄 😄
Good looking car as it now looks like a larger Porsche. I like the fact that the infotainment system is built in and not huge and in your face screen dominating the dash. Unfortunately I will never own one as it would be a second mortgage for me and I don't agree with Autotraders blatant advertising of its finance/lease business through your reviews Rory.
510 miles I smell bull shit
Does having 2 charge points also mean that I can plug in 2 chargers on each side at the the same time?
That's even more money then old Taycan customers have lost in depreciation. I suspect these things are a poison chalice.
I had a 4S with the bigger battery and would struggle to get 200 miles range, even in the summer so I'm VERY dubious that the new version can suddenly do twice the distance. I'd be amazed if it can do 300 miles. Also, the ability to charge fast is awesome but my experience of Ionity UK charging points is that they very rarely run to their full capacity meaning that it doesn't matter if your car can accept over 300kw/h if the charging point is being throttled to only give you 50kw/h. It was my biggest frustration of EV ownership and wasted so much of my time either in waiting for other people to finish so I could start charging, or waiting so much longer for the car to charge than advertised.