10 Bit Raw Cinematic Video with a Smartphone. MOTIONCAM APP!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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Experience smartphone videography like never before with 10-bit RAW video recording, MotionCam app, and Dehancer Film Emulation plug in. Capture every detail with precision, control settings effortlessly, and elevate your footage with cinematic aesthetics. Transform your smartphone into a cinematic powerhouse and unleash your creativity with this innovative combination of technology and tools.
PHONE CAMERAS USED IN THIS VIDEO:
SAMSUNG GALAXY S24 U
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Thanks for such an awesome video! We are eager to answer any questions 😃
It's so insane
Thank you
great stuff! with 10 bit with cineon , dehancer still gets you such good colours!
I am slowly getting use to going with 10 bit cineon and log recording. I am planning to test it for a future video project. If you have any tips recording cineon, I am open for suggestions 🫡
@@kitchenraw I myself feel RAW has definitely more potential in comparison to the log recording in emulation and stuff although if you do ETTR which is obvious I guess and I also most of the times record how a film would behave with the shadows and highlights. What I mean is it's easier to recover details in the highlights but you cannot recover shadows on film so I intentionally kill the shadows when the scene isn't very dynamic and my subject has enough lighting/I am shooting silhouttes.
If you aren't specifically asking for film emulation then you can use a cst and use Sony Venice luts . I used to use them a lot both with raw and log and it gave good results.
Rn I have the Fujifilm xh2s film emulation lut from their site which works great even when used in the app.
@@yoganshbhatt Thank you for the detailed information. I appreciate it a lot!
I tend to have a ton of noise on y videos, how do you deal with that?
When you are rendering the files from the app, there is a detailed noise reduction section. It works by pixel bining 4x to 16x, if I am not wrong. There were some parts I also used Davinci's noise reduction tool as an extra, but just for a short scene.
@@kitchenraw thanks so does it mean it will reduce output resolution as tradeoff
@petithor I just looked it up again, and I was wrong. It is not pixel bining but another technology. It uses multiple frames to get more light data to denoise a single frame. What developers' website says: The denoising algorithm uses bayer RAW images as input. Motion Cam treats the RAW data as four colour channels (red, blue and two green channels). It starts by creating an optical flow map between a set of images and the reference image utilising Fast Optical Flow using Dense Inverse Search. Then, each colour channel is fused using a simplified Gaussian pyramid. So it won't reduce the resolution at all.
how much big of sd card would you say a 256-512gb hold of 4k vid 30fps?
Great
amazing
@@akshayrenjith Thank you!!
Its posible with a Samsung s20fe?
I think you can watch this: ruclips.net/video/21uyYWkltKs/видео.htmlsi=MJv8Rn4ERyZGx7LN
You should get the free version and try with your phone to see how it works
I can't believe this was shot on a phone. I'll soon be out of a job XD
@@reelFUTURE Hahah :) hop on the boat of smartphone filmography then. Joke a side the smartphone cameras are getting out of control for real.
Uygulamada en çok zorlandığım şey kamera hareketleri. Yani ios kapalıyken gimbal da bile titreşimin önüne geçemiyorum. İos açıkken de hareketi tamamlama aşamasında görüntü kaymaya devam ediyor. Bu seferde hareketi istediğim gibi yapamıyorum. Bu konuda yanlış yaptığım bir şey var mı sizce?
Guzel soru, bende baya ugrastim bu olay yuzunden. Sanirim telefona ve telefonun hangi kamerasini kullandigin ile alakali olabilir. Ornegin Galaxy s23 Ultranin genis aci kamerasi stabilizasyon konusunda cok kotu ama ana camera ve 3x camera gayet basarili. Sanirim eger kameranin icinde anti-shake sistemi yoksa cok sarsintili oluyor. Ilginctir gimbal ustunde gayet iyi performans gosteriyor benim kullandigim telefonlar (Samsung s serisi ve Google Pixel). Birde bazen ben ayriyetten Davinci Resolve un stabilizerini kullaniyorum.
Bu elemanlarin discord hesabindan sormak lazim, onlar daha net bilgi verebilir bu konuda.
@@kitchenraw ya bir kaç kez iletişime geçtim. Aşırı ukala bir tip.
@@kitchenraw bende de 13 ultra var. Stabilize edebilme yeteneği iyi ama bu sistemin kendisini sevmiyorum. Hareketi istediğim gibi yapamıyorsun. Yani fujifilm in kameralarında bile kapattırıyorum arkadaşlara. Sen pan I bitiriyorsun ama kamera bir miktar daha devam ettiriyor.
Bir de bir soru daha soracağım. Ben de genel olarak raw çalışıyorum. Log görüntüler çok başarılı değil bence. Ama rawda da Lightroom a sokmak durumundayım. Noise o kadar fazla ki lightroom üzerinden temizleyip öyle editliyorum. Bu da hem pc için hem de benim için ekstra vakit, ekstra iş oluyor. Daha sonra after a alıp stabilize işlemi yapıyorum. Sonra premierede editliyorum. Tabi color için sürekli kayıpsız görüntüyle çalışıyorum. Senin videoyu tamamen izlemeye imkanım olmadı çocuklardan dolayı. Sen da vinci ye direkt çekiyorsun sanırım?
Dehancer is expensive. I better buy Davinci Resolve
Davinci has a free version and pro version, which is perfect. Dehancer looks expensive, but it is a lifelong purchase, so I don't think it's bad. Also, you don't have to buy the pro pack. You can purchase only the film grain or bloom effects way cheaper.
hi there, newbie here. sorry for the ignorant question but when i export the raw video it would be photos. how exactly do i make it a video to import into final cut pro to edit? would greatly appreciate any assistance or help. TIA. thanks for this video.
@@strangerdaysss Hey there! There is no ignorant questions for me, all questions are necessary in the learning process. To get your raw images into a timeline (preferably 24 frame per seconds) is called "importing sequences into the timeline" I don't use Finalcut Pro but I found a quickly tutorial for you, it should be straight forward just like it shows in this video: ruclips.net/video/W5kT7RmbkoI/видео.htmlsi=wSLue9T3UGzPRsFB
Let me know if that works, there are other ways to do it too
What camera did you pick in the select camera option?
For the intro, I used all cameras of the Google pixel. Super wide, wide, and 5x periscope camera.
I think I’ve seen enough. Ready to come back to Android and create a few films a year. This is exciting stuff!
@@sidersproductions941 That's really mind blowing. Literally a cinema camera in your pocket
@@kitchenrawI see! I’m getting the S24 Ultra. Does the app already support 4k120fps recording?
@@sidersproductions941 You can only record 4k 120 fps in pro mode with the main camera. MotionCam is not supporting 120 fps RAW recording, it is to much overload to the sensor and cpu.
@@kitchenraw yeah I figured that. I’m familiar with their pro video mode since I had the S22 Ultra and loved it. May use it for “normal videos” and stick to 4k60,30, and 24 for the cinematic stuff.
Could you please share the color space transmission settings for the pixel 8 pro? I appreciate it, thanks
@@dand.1941 There is no saved data for the color grading specifically for this video. I basically increased the Saruration 60% 70% percent, increased the shadows around 50% percent. On top of that I used the Dehancer Film Emulation plug-in that you can see the details in the video. Dehancer plug-in has it's own color science for each emulation used in this video.
Would you be willing to share dng sequences? Footage looks awesome but would like to play around with it myself first
After rendering my dng files into a video I delete all dng files. Whole Istanbul videos were taking 2 tb of space. I will visit istanbul again this summer and record more and I will definitely send it you, I am curious how other people color grade images :D Or I can just test record something in Houston where I live if you like to play around. Send me an email to askrawkitchen@gmail.com and I can send you some samples I recently recorded here!
I just sent you some samples from the upload link you sent. I am curious how it will turn out 👋
How do you handle the huge file size? Do you just constantly transfer the videos from ur phone to PC during the entire shoot? These days premium phones dont support SD cards anymore
@@TheMasterofComment My phone has 512gbyte memory. But I also carry an SSD hard drive and when you plug an SSD to your phone with usb-c it directly records to the SSD drive. Just like pro cameras you can record everything into the external hard drive without using your phone memory. I use a Samsung T7 hard drive chich works without any issues.
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can u make detailed color grading tutorial on davinci
Bir daha test ettigimde daha ayrintili yapabilirim. Ama genel olarak zaten cok ayrintili color grading yapmiyorum. Saturation'i yukseltiyorum, birazda golgeleri aciyorum okadar. ;)
@@kitchenraw madem türkçe konuşabiliyoruz türkçe devam edelim o zaman, sadece gölgeleri açtığınız halde görüntü sanki maviymiş gibi görünüyor, 10:12'ye dikkat. fotoğraf gibi edit'lemek bazı yerlerde yeterli kalıyor ama motioncam kullanıp da detaylı bi davinci resolve guide bulamadım hiç. tabi ki profesyonel bi şey üretmek amacım değil ama ek bir şeyler bilmek iyi olurdu. saygılar
@kc4ca Bahsettigin kisimi cekerken hava kararmisti neredeyse ve ocak ayinda cekmistim, o mavilik oradan geliyor editlenmemis hali daha da maviydi. Ince ayrintiya girip aslinda o mavilik giderilebilirdi. Fakat bu video yu genel bir review olarak ele aldigim icin ayrinti girip videoyu uzatmak istemedim. Video uzayinca daha az izleniyor ;) Ama bir sonraki review yaparken biraz daha spesifik ilgilenebilirim soyledigin gibi.
@@kitchenraw thanks
Müdür memlekete mi döndün 🙃 En son Amerikadaydin.
Hahahah, yok arada ziyarete geliyorum, gelmisken elim bos donmeyeyim dedim.
@@kitchenraw Çok iyi, ellerine sağlık güzel video.
does your phone get overheat after a while? my pixel 6 is extremely hot just after 5 mins recording :(
@@atlesg If I record nonstop for 5mins, yes it warms up but not so bad. It is normal probably bc you are using the ram, hard drive and cpu with almost full capacity. That's why cinema cameras that shoots raw video has internal sensor cooling fan.
@@kitchenraw i see. I just ordered a cooling fan for 10$ let see if it can make things better. We can conclude that active cooling component is a must!
My Pixel 8 starts dropping frames if there's even a slight hint of sun hitting the phone, because of CPU throttling. Do you face any such problems?
I was using Pixel 8 pro and didn't experience any dropped frames. Considering that raw recording is rely on ram ang cpu maybe that can be the issue. Regular Pixel 8 has 8gb ram, Pixel 8 pro version has 12gb. I would suggest making sure that you close all the apps in the background and turn off gps, mobile data etc to give all ram power to Motioncam app while recording.
Also here is the Motioncam developer's Discord account. You can ask them any questions about your issue they might tell you what is causing it. discord.com/invite/motioncam-raw-video-980884979955421255
I did more tests this morning compared to 400mb to 1200 mb, and the difference is very small; a person needs to zoom in and nitpick to see the difference, so I would say 400 mb is the max at which it shows a good jump from 230 mb, so I suggest a person stick to 400mb. directlog
They are impossible to work with, and frankly, not worth the effort. Not to mention it destroys your phone's memory chip.
You can use Directlog which is less in fine size
If you are talking about raw, those are 3 false claims.
@@danielosetromera2090 I am talking about your phone pushing itself to record 4k DNG 60 times per second. And then transfering them to your PC.
Definitely worth it
I don't think so. Maybe 3 years ago, you might be right, but now it is definitely worth it. I also show the dng raw workflow just to explain the working principles, but you can actually record slog 10bit videos without the hustle of recording raw dng. If you are familiar with the cinema cameras like arri, black magic, sony they all work the same. I don't think it will harm your memory chip but if you are worried about that you can directly record into a ssd external by plugging into your phone.