Alternate Superman Origin (Gods And Monsters)
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I would honestly really like a sequel to Gods and Monsters, not as an edgy "evil superman" story that is oversaturated nowadays, but just a generally different take on the formula and character dynamic, for example I am curious how this universe would handle Green Lantern, Aquaman, The Flash and Martian Manhunter.
Agreed. Anti heros are the best of both worlds.
Aquaman could be just living water or something like that.
I prefer to be show in hbo max
I think flash would be crazy speedster
And martian manhanter the prisedent it is would be grait
"now why on earth you would want to have a baby without the sex part is way beyond me" XD
Lmaooo
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It's a kryptonian thing.
@@PerovNigma Lmaooo
Kryptonians are supposed to represent the evolution of Human society.
The concept of DNA scanners, Incubation chambers and genetic compilers isn't far from our own society.
I mean it would remove the part of two people having sex, but allow two people to be able to have a child at all. Like two people who are not compatible, remove any defects, illnesses or less than desirable qualities and traits. This process would even allow gay and lesbian couples to have a child together.
When you think about it, this isn't far from we are now.
But Supermans parents still had sex.
The detail I find most interesting with this version of Superman is how it highlights his "immigrant status". Regular superman is written as an immigrant who comes to Earth which became his adopted home. This version is the same except he is raised by illegal immigrants and although he has a loving family he never feels truly adopted by the Earth and is why he is the more cynical antihero and not the classic hero boy scout
Another reason why i think this one is way more interesting that the "og" superman
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@@Acacius1992Why? It's exactly what you would expect. An immigrant turning into a nation's icon is much more powerful.
"Why you took me in, I'll never know."
"You were hungry."
Yeah, that's Superman.
The message with Gods and Monsters Superman No matter what happens in your life and when you grow up it shows you have a great understanding and a ideal for what is right but knowing when to do things for the right reasons and be there to help fix things
@@comicbookreviewer4856I think that's a constant theme for like 90% of Supermans in the multiverse, hell even in the WW2 universe where kal-el crash landed in Germany in WW2. He was starting to have the "are we the baddies" moment
Its still super-man with just little bit more angled moral compass
He is still a Hero but he is fiercely pragmatic
our Clark would fly the Kid Brainiac to space
-OSP
5:55 Yeah, this explains why I felt uncomfortable about how he was born.
So this Superman was like a good version of Homelander from The Boys. He's reckless and violent, but at least he has better moral standards.
The only difference is that one is a man child and the other is the son of a mad general.
Even tho Son of Zod has seen darker side of the society, he still has a loving family. Unlike Homelander who was raised as a lab rat by the scientists
One of the things I really liked about this Superman is that he had grown up believing Zor-El, a brilliant scientist who had predicted the destruction of his planet, was his father.
It wasn’t until much later in his life, after he had been living as an adult and acting as Superman for a while, that he learned the truth about how his father was actually General Zod, the same man who had destroyed the planet.
But rather than lash out at Luthor (who had been the one responsible for hiding the truth out of fear Hernan would act like his father) OR take it as a sign that he should follow along in his real father’s path, Hernan instead did the opposite.
He realized that he couldn’t continue with his previous behavior, and that instead he needed to actively work towards being a shining example for others to follow.
I really enjoyed this take on Superman, I think it makes him a more complex and nuanced character than the mainline Superman we're all pretty familiar with, and used to. Now if at some point the mainline Superman and the Gods and Monsters Superman were to meet, I think it would be potentially interesting because mainline Superman would basically meet someone that was much more brutal than him but ultimately proved his core belief that a good person can come from someone that's not quite good themself, and the Gods and Monsters Superman would meet someone that basically was the epitome of everything he is striving for but also in a way grew up with blinders on so is not as aware of just how much people can, and are, be exploited.
Awesome, one of my favorite version of Superman ever.
I really want more about this universe. Anyone else?
I definitely want more of this universe!
Interesting to see different takes on other superhero and villains in this universe.
This Superman is dope this universe in general is dope
This Superman actually more likeable if you see him as a whole. Our Superman is just good because he was born as such, sure you can say he struggling as a childhood because of his superpower and all, but the Kent is perfect family for him. This one though he was haunted by the guilt of wounding his little sister, fearing himself all his life, and laterfound out he is a son of villain. I was amazing seeing him grew into proper human.
Yey
This is my favourite version of SuperMan
I agree
Superman: Should I wear a cape?
Edna: No capes!
Superman: Uh, what about trench coat?
Edna: That’s fine with that. :)
Wow, he's uploading so often. He must really want to gift us his beautiful voice
Lemon X and the sweet background music
Yes his voice is better than actual asmr
When I think of a Darker more "Real" Superman, This Superman is the one I think of, Superman son of Zod.
I actually would love to see the "Gods and Monsters" universe explored more or even be crossed over into the main continuity
Be one heck of a meeting between OG Superman and GaM Superman.
Even more one heck of a meeting between Bruce Wayne and Kirk langstrom XD
We need more Gods and Monsters and mexican Superman, instead of Injustice and crazy Superman. This universe has such huge potential for creative alternate versions.
The metal men went from friendly kind robots to full nightmare fuel, Harley went from the right hand of the joker to a complete psycho. What if the Flash is just a genius guy wearing special gear that gives him connection to the speedforce?
@@zalabit927 Im actually sick of Crazy 'Evil Stevel' Superman we've been getting lately because DC is so Desperate to copy Watchmen. Not to mention the Batgod Cult they have worshiping batman as 'The greatest superhero EVARZ"
I like to think this “ darker” Superman saw the worst of humanity and decided that people needed something to aspire to and took it upon himself to give us that. He’s not perfect but who is
I did like the the version of this superman growing up by Mexican immigrants. The few parts he actually spoke Spanish was great but wish they showed more of his Mexican up bringing.
i mean, he was raised in the us. a lotta the people i know even starting from the 2nd gen immigrant families start to lose touch with their culture. would def like to see this supes childhood though.
Ricardio Heartguy a lot of 1 generation do too
@@Bruceillest101 yeah, my mom started to forget how to read her native language after living overseas for a decade or two, so thats def true also
I actually never cared for typical Superman. This version is hands down my favorite. He's moody, cynical, but also still somewhat optimistic about what he could do with his heritage and powers beyond simply just saving the day. There's just too much to cover about what I love about this version of Supes.
lol the normal superman is way better
@@ProjektTaku I agree with Eric here.
Never was a fan off the Overpowered Mary sue with no flaws anyways.
@@Acacius1992 the reason you might think so is just due to bad writers in alot of issues they write him as an good character with actual flaws
@@leeroyjenkins4456 Hmmm.... Maybe.
@@Acacius1992 ok
I’m surprised Gods & Monsters hasn’t gotten a sequel yet.
Sadly, it didn't make as much money as some of the other animated DC movies.
@@bliskin8847 well..... sh*t.
The injustice superman makes zero sense, this one does.
And it shows perfectly that a hard life can make you a better person as long as you're surrounded by people who care.
For me this is the most human superman incarnation so far
Thats true, sadly many people with a hard life dont have people who care often. At least in our world
Let's say that this Superman (Hernan Guerra) is one that knows how he is, he knows that he isn't human and could get a life much better and give them to his family. On the other hand the Injustice Kal-El is much like forced by the plot of the story, something like he's having a tantrum. Then... The whole Injustice is extremely exagerated. A story made with so many CIS (Character Induced Stupidity)
''now why on earth you would want to have a baby without the sex part is way beyond me" LOL that sentence got my laughing for a minute or 2 :D
I actually really love this version of Superman because he’s actually experience the darker side of humanity unlike the original he knows what it’s like to be looked down on or used his life wasn’t perfect and that’s what’s great and amazing he saw all the evil the corruption and how his true father was but in the end he chose to be better than that and that’s what I love about a lot of hero stories to choice to be better and this version of superman does it amazingly
I think this character should be in the main universe, along side with the classic Superman.
The same goes for the other Batman and other Wonderwoman, because that would just be a very interesting story, thumbs up if anyone agrees with me.
Even if they travelled to the main DC Universe I think they will fight each other
@@arkhamtony3775 I'm not saying for them to travel universes but to co-exist in the main universe
The thing I really love about this film is that it makes lex Luther a relatable and lovable character and the way its done is absolutely flawless
I honestly really like his Design. Looks so much better than that Blue Spandex
Hernan Guerra: best Superman ever, because he is not so good and acts with brutality when it's needed...btw: Guerra means War in Spanish such a badass last name!
I’m glad you are still posting about this movie, it is incredibly underrated, much like this channel. Keep up the good work.
They should make a animated adaptation of the Superman that was raised by Darkseid
That would be cool
He would basically be like Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z. The only other Kryptonian that could stand up to such a servant of Darkseid would be his cousin Kara in that story.
There was an episode of S:TAS where he was brainwashed by Darkseid and invaded Earth. Does that count?
I really liked this movie. It did a dark alternate Justice League well, without coming across as too cynical. It's a universe that has "gone wrong", but unlike Flashpoint it isn't doomed to be terrible and die. And despite the League initially being much darker, they're still people, not cartoonish ripoffs of The Watchmen. It's a shame the sequel got canned
The double entendre with Hernan Guerra's up bringing is brilliant. He is an illegal alien in both definitions. As an extra-terrestrial not from this world. And as a Mexican not from the U.S.A. This superman has to deal with both versions of being an outcast. Brilliant!
On thing I like about this Superman is that he doesn't wear a cape, but rather a trench coat. Though I could do without the goatee. I feel like that was an unnecessary addition to his appearance.
i actually like the goatee
@@hectornerio2901, I also really loved the goatee too.
@@hectornerio2901 Lmao he rocked that goatee like nobody’s business!
Superman with a goatee is actually badass but i respect your opinion
Me too
Justice league gods and monsters is so underrated this is actually one of my favorite animated DC movies
It’s more like superman’s mom cheated on his dad
I would say raped in a roundabout way.
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@@emperorjoker9240 yeah....
@@emperorjoker9240 Basically.
more like supermans mom was rapierd. daddy was about to stick it in before it got shot off by zod
What’s that, an alt Superman that actually is better from a different country
Now before any one rants about how this one isn’t as just or morally sane as Clark hear me out
He was raised with a view of what people can be at their lowest,he abondens his powers for the protection of others,relies on being a man for most his life,is able to realize that his powers do more to protect with potential incident than doing nothing so there is no incident,doesn’t lash out or rebel when he realizes he has been betrayed by the government because he sees that they did it for a reason that was heavily grounded and possible,and changes himself because of the government’s reason,and understands what people can be at their highest and lowest as he takes in this worlds Batman,because he saw just how low he had gone and saw what he could be
Now is this one going to make the silver beacon of choices,no,is he better at being a god of morals,no,but is he better at being a man,he knows a man at his weakest and knows a man at his highest,as he is one of those men,and being man is what this one is,he kills and is violent with his powers,but changes that when he sees what a path like that can be,he changes this worlds Batman because he sees his path and what it makes him so he changes this Batman from a hobo who very well could’ve been a mad man to what would actually be one of the strongest people on the planet,being man is about changing and changing what’s around you,and that is what this Superman does,for worse or best
same, i like this superman because his sense of justice were made by his own suffering in the past, this superman feel what a mortal human feel too
Yeah,he’s feels more like a man who became a god now trying to be a god around man
I mean if they want to do an edgy Superman. This man here fits pretty well.
I want a story where the main justice league ends up in this universe somehow. Mostly to see them chat while trying to get home.
I love this version of Superman because I've always liked the idea of Superman becoming a hero in the end despite everything that might have happened to him in his life. Superman to me has always represented the ideal for justice and peace because even with his godlike power, he doesn't let it get to his head. Now there are arguments you could make for a nature vs. nurture thing with Superman, but at his core I think Superman should always be a man jsut trying to do some good in the world. And what makes this Superman so great is that we see him do that without letting himself become overly angsty over the horrific things he has seen and done in this universe. He just recognizes that sometimes you can't solve everything with an optimistic speech and a smile. Regular Superman maybe, but not this one. I love this version of Superman :)
This Superman is really interesting in my opinion
Finally I’ve been waiting for more of this dc universe I hope for more
Ironically, by giving him a darker origin, it makes him a bit more like batman, if batman were a wee bit more like his Bruce Wayne counterpart.
the closest thing to a minority kyptonian , even though thier is still val-zod, calvin ellis, and all them folks in kandor, and valtho
First and second, glad to see that your going back to the gods and monsters universe needlemouse :-)
This version of Superman is the best version to ever exist of the man of steel i just love Hernan Guerra he’s so cool I love how he’s the son of General Zod
Honestly I think he is the most badass version of Superman
ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS FILM
Would love a sequel with more “twisted” Leaguers
Not gonna lie, I think this is actually my favorite version of Superman.
Need more of this universe
About dam time
I recently found this movie on RUclips and I loved it, hope we get more from this univers overtime, like orm as aquaman and arther as ocean master, the flash having time manipulation powers, and marten manhunt not having the fire weakness so he is unstoppable
Really liked this Superman.
so this Clark is physically stronger than the normal 1 since both of are Superman's parents were not so strong on Krypton yet Zod was a war lord so if he's this superman's father, he'd be stronger
I really really want a sequel or live action adaptation of Justice League Gods and Monsters this movie is ridiculously underrated I love the universe DC built its genius
To this day I still want gods and monsters
How the hell did this film not get a sequel?
This is the superman I can really get behind i’m not so picture perfect superman for a not so picture perfect world right now
Theory: ten people cannot be first.
But that’s just a theory.
Am the 4,767
... A game theory!
@@nunyabusiness9307 no A FILM THEORY
@@Jrsonicyt-is-weird you are most certainly right. My mistake.
He's a cross between moral Superman and Injustice Superman, but he is his own unique self.
Out of the many versions of Superman, he is my favorite. As far as this movie goes, Bekka is my top favorite.
Back to Superman, he's actually more human than boy scout Superman or evil Superman.
Best of all, he's not edgy at all. I still like normal Superman, but I like this one as well.
this versiob of superman is fuking badass without being straight up psycho like Injustice, son of General Zod, has that GOAT killer badass look, Guerra means WAR In other languages, holy fuking shit man and like Machete he is MEXICAN, lesgo
His fit is a lot nicer,I dig the goatee.
Also the fact that this super man isnt evil is ironic. If you know story tropes, you but with a goate is usually an evil version of you from another timeline or universe
YAY more needlemouse
My opinion is Lex was right to keep Zod a secret to this superman after he matured. He realized with all the killing he has done, he becoming Zod, thus he stops killing.
If he learns about Zod before he kills/becomes a hero, he would have taken Zod as someone to loon up to
I have to agree.
I wanna see this version of Superman in a live action film someday.
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This Superman is more like homelander
i kinda think the same, but then i remember that this superman is stood up for justice
His nothing like homelander he cares about justice and people homelander doesn't
moody and kills =/= homelander. homelander's an actual psychopath/sociopath, whatever you wanna call it.
homelander is an insane asshole, this superman is a bit rough around the edges but he's fair and honest and stands up for the people even though he brutally murders the criminal element whereas homelander doesn't give a shit about anyone other than himself
I like this "ethnic" Superman!
Wonder Woman really gets around in this universe
"Instead of visionary lovely scientists who saw this coming and no one believed them."
Bardock: Offense taken but ok
This Superman and this universe is interesting, with some intriguing character decisions
If this was live action with a theatrical realise it would BANG!
When I was watching this video I saw the heghod with a mask for the first time
Wouldn’t Mexican Superman be stronger than Clark considering Zod was a member of the warrior class?
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Nice
*Justice league gods among us is just the PERFECT foil to the main DC universe.* 😆👌
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Ayes the mexican superman
So lemme get this straight....so general zod is basically a "sperm donor" is what you're saying right...?
Just a funny idea, but I think Zack Snyder would've made a better movie if he used this Superman rather than the main version.
I like this version more darker than original.
Arguably; A "God" with ......"issues", will always seem more ......"Human". Superman gets a super-pimple. Superman kills simply because he has a ......headache.
This Superman would have killed the Joker and stopped there instead of enslaving the entire world. The people who are the most broken are the most grounded and practiced in self restraint.
He is still a Hero but he is fiercely pragmatic
our Clark would fly the Kid Brainiac to space
-OSP
My most favorite version of superman guy never hesitate to show offor use his powers nd doesn't go crazy like injustice superman
3117 view!! Also I’m glad that this came out since there are two others of the Gods and Monsters Trinity.
I don't like superman but this version of superman is awesome
I really wish they had spent a little more time on how Superman was raised instead of his biological origins in the movie since that would have, you know, MEANT something to his perspective and moral code.
I still have the Wonderwoman figurine that came with the film here in Germany
This is the kind of premise Zack Snyder would do great with. Not being sarcastic btw. Zack wanted a Superman with edge. Just make this into live action. Loved this film.
Agree. By rewriting part of the story abit like this. He can get to do the “Superman becoming more “Superman””
First love your videos
Justice League Gods and Monsters is the most underrated movie of all time
Warner brother should take notes because this is how you make a superman that isn’t fully white and American.
I wouldn't say I prefer this Superman. but I do like this Superman. In Most ways he's honestly more Human than Clark Kent.
You didn't mention thst this superman is also religious. He is seen blessing himself and kneeling before the stones corpses in the movie
Hope they continue this story someday
i wish they would do some more with 1 of my top heroes and that universe. for real.
There's also the possibility that this Superman is slightly more emotional and religious due to him seeing the charred remains of the Stones and he bows down before them with his eyes closed as though in prayer for them, or when he stumbles across the Kid Brainiac who is unable to control his powers and Superman is in tears realizing that he has no other choice but to perform a mercy kill him to save the city when Brainiac asks for it.
I'd say he is definitely more religious than the original Superman. And they're both emotional, but he generally hides his emotions behind a stoic and stern exterior.
If they met each other, I think he and Clarke would have some interesting debates and ultimately respect each other.
Mexican superman lol
Good vid
I think that Lin-Manuel Miranda could play this version of Superman
@@hectornerioiv4069 maybe
Seeing as how this superman changed for the better is a great concept
Could you please make a video on all the times Lex Luthor has gotten superpowers
Still wish we got a Hernan Guerra skin for the Injustice series. Even though he's definitely a better man than Injusticeverse Superman, the Kryptonite handcuffs on him would still be in-character for him
That would be a cool interaction between injustice Superman and g.a.m superman.
I.j sups: who are you?
G.a.m: im you, well not 100% anyways. My we have the same mother, but my father is... General zodd.
I.j sups: WHAT?!?
Luv this vid👌🏽
Clark is Clark no matter what universe he's in, unless they're specifically making him evil.
The fact that the vast majority of his alternate versions are heroic, planet saving guys only cements it.
this guy is hernan guerra though
Honestly one of my favourite versions of superman
I wish they did more with this and expanded on it further.
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One thing that always kind of bothers me about Superman origin stories, "Hey look a baby, lets keep it."