Crown Jewels: Why is the Koh-i-Noor diamond so controversial? - BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2023
- Camilla, the Queen Consort, will not wear a crown holding the controversial diamond the Koh-i-Noor at King Charles III’s coronation.
It’s a diamond that has passed through the hands of Mughal princes, Iranian warriors, Afghan rulers and Punjabi Maharajas.
The 105-carat gemstone came into British hands in the mid-19th Century, and forms part of the Crown Jewels on display at the Tower of London.
Ownership of the diamond has been disputed, and there were concerns about a diplomatic row with India if it had been used.
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If Britain returns all the items back to their countries of origin then their museums and palaces would be empty 😂😂
@Asphodelia Dworld would have made these discoveries sooner or later.
Giving it back to india is a bad idea, it doesn't belong to them it belongs to God, it has been stolen from God
@@asphodeliad1035 - yes. But your discoveries were not stolen from you. But the diamond is a possession. We're not stopping you from carving your own diamond in the Kohinoor's likeliness, we're simply saying, give us our diamond back
@@asphodeliad1035 well they did it whole world ... Indians they are the only people discovered everything,😂😂😂
No surprise build toilets first buddy
Look at Egypt Africans turned it into a dump. Least uk protecting heritage of world. Muslims Hindus and Africans just destroy it.
Imagine bullying a ten year old into giving you their stone after locking up his mother.
i call that theft.
That happens every day in India, and has done since independence.
@@sabin97 What do you call Adani, Mallya, Nirav Modi, and Subrata Roy ripping off the Indian people? And what do Indians call their endemically corrupt political class?
@@SenorSol
i dont call them. i just say "thank you, come again" in my best apu accent.
and back on topic. the english stole that stone. they should give it back.
you are aware those are different topics, right?
@@sabin97 They didn't steal it, it was surrendered after India was conquered. That's how things worked, and it also happened in other conquests by other empires. Time to get over it and stop sucking your thumb about the past.
The topics are linked, mainly because it shows up typical Indian hypocrisy and whataboutery. The same Indians who whine about the Kohinoor are the same Indians who say and do nothing about the endemic corruption within Indian society that helps to keep India backwards.
The amount of wealth looted from India is enormous, Nadir shah looted the whole throne, I have read that along with Kohinoor, that throne was decorated by many precious stones & gold .
Now, there's nothing we can do 🙂.
Funny, until I saw this, I've only ever seen Indians blame only the British for "stealing" when this video clearly shows that even before Britain was in India, other civilisations looted, raided and pillaged India. How ironic.
Guess Indians need to learn a bit more history..
45 trillion usd estimated
@@bravestone9987 So?
@@bravestone9987 The Vikings pillaged wealth, raped and murdered people when they came to England from Norway. They also enslaved the natives.
Tell me how that's any different? But you don't see British people complain about it do you, history is history. Cry me a river 🥱
@@arfgrogue5735 reperation or else face the consequences
You guys didn’t even mention that the diamond came from Deccan…
Maybe it should go to the descendent of the miner who first laid hands on the bloody thing. Or maybe it should ceremoniously be dropped into the sea or sold to the richest man in the world with the money sent to good causes. Bickering over which nation should hold it when neither Britain or India actually existed as legal entities when the diamond was found seems a bit small minded. Lets think outside the box people
@@LS-xs7sg whatever dude, british looted it.... It is a stolen property.. It so not belong in Britain!
The diamond belongs to Shri Krishna, that diamond is thousands and thousands of years old.
@@mangopudding5979 wow that's new please elaborate
@@eyeofthepyramid2596 Kohinoor Diamond's original name is Syamantaka which was a gift given to Shri Krishna by his wife Mata Rukmini's Father. That's not new, the fact is real history has been hidden from us.
Based on the stone's tradition, India would have to invade the UK and take it back. I think the fact the stone has been taken by the victor of conflicts for centuries to be fascinating. Whoever defeats England will own the diamond next, and so on till the end of time.
That's actually really interesting, I'd love to see a movie about something like this. World powers battle for control of the diamond
But now you’ll have to fight all of NATO 😞
British theives return the diamond and artifacts to India
@@abhinay4200 Why are the angry Indians not asking for the “Daria-i-Noor” back- another Indian diamond currently held in Iran. And this one is actually much larger and significantly rarer, being of the incredible pale pink colour.
@@Indigo280 we don't need to fight anyone , we already have Indian origin man as pm in uk , he will turn the things in favour of India .
First of all the diamond itself was stolen from some temple in andhra Pradesh India by invaders then it passed among several Indian kingdoms then ultimately British stole it from a child ruler in Punjab .
@themastermind8847 Lol it was of Andhra Pradesh's temple when Hyderabad didn't even exist.
@The Master mind How Pakistan become successor to Mughal? You have no connection with Mughal other than being Muslim.
@The Master mind How? Kashmir kingdom joined India legally. Where is Pakistan in this other than sending illiterate tribes to loot Kashmir
@The Master mind That Nijam was representative of Mughals who are nothing but invaders. Diamond was found from India. So mughal has no right over it
@@vaimurthy ha ha his name only master mind …he is an utter fool…don’t know the history….don’t waste time on these kind of morons…..
The stone is not 'cursed' or anything like that. It's just a carbon crystal. It's the people who are at fault who fight over this object, not the stone itself.
If it’s just an object, then the British should return it
मैं एक पत्रकार हूं यह हमारा नया न्यूज़ प्लेटफार्म है आप सब के सहयोग की आवश्यकता है हम सत्य के साथ हैं ..🙏🙏👍
💯💯💯❣
@why bother tho? the government of India.
@@TheZachary86 If it's just an object, why does India care so much?
@@TheZachary86 Even Indian courts have ruled it belongs to the Crown.
as an Iranian I don't think Iran has any right over the jewel it was acquired through imperialism it would be no different than Englands claim to the jewel. since Pakistan used to be part of India I think they should return the jewel to the country which it was first discovered. what I mean by that is within the border of whichever country it was first discovered it should be returned to that country.
And that's Delhi
It's first' was in found in Indian mine ! Then it's donated to temple of andhrapradesh! And then a king looted that temple rest is history that curse continues its change its owner literally every decade or every century
Looter Britisher deliberately claim that looter Iranian afgani too can claim so they justify own claim. Cunning Britisher
Its was found in Golconda mines in Andhra pradesh
Pakistan was never a part of India. India did not exist as a country before 1947.
There's nothing controversial about giving back what you have stolen.
@Why bother ur going to die.
Based and decolonisaton pilled.
There is because it's history mate. Literally, all of history is about stealing why does this matter more it's ridiculous should we ask Scandinavia to hand over everything they stole?
Britain got it as compensation from the last Ruler....You guys are salty about history....
@@Vladimirputin11111 in your dreams .
It is believed that the diamond was first mentioned more than 5000 years ago in a Sanskrit script, where it was called the Syamantaka. It has a history, and it'll track back to its original owners in time.
@@elperrroverde i saw you making conspiracy of it being fake and stolen.
Ah, here comes the injection of mythology into fact. The Kohinoor cannot have been the shyamantaka
it's alleged and not proven as many mythological accounts describe Syamantaka as a Ruby, not a Diamond.
When it's time it will teleport back
That long ago..... 😳 Woooo 🤔 that would actually mean it probably originally was owned by Zoroastrians. There probably to smart to want to get involved in this though lol
If UK returned ALL of its artifacts.. All British museums would be empty
They should be. 🖕😛✌️
Facts
@The Shadow Knows! so does your denial.. and your ignorance of UK's colonial crimes
So true 👍
That’s like saying all van Gogh’s paintings should be in the Netherlands, or all of Da Vinci’s works should be in Italy…
If it carries a curse, how come the Queen who wore it the most died of old age/natural causes?
Let’s have a debate when you return back from Arabian nights la la land
Britain who stole it has become a weak economy that’s not growing anymore
the cure is for male rulers
She did not wear it …l it was in the crown of the Queen mother…. And the curse was only on male owners not female
because curses are not a real thing.
like angels, or pixies, or talking snakes.
Well done Palki Sharma 😂😂
Palki Sharma effect. The very first vantage she mentioned about it and BBC followed soon 🔥🔥
That comment makes no sense in English. Care to try again?
@SenorSol no... Improve your English.
@@jaggadakku1864 Err....my English is better than yours, you didn't even capitalise the beginning of a sentence! You muppet!
@@SenorSol 😂Take your English and flourish ma'am .. God save us from these grammer nazis cum (only going for English as a language and not even trying to interpret the context) . Hail MA'AM/SIR WREN plus consume little less of MARTINI.
@@jaggadakku1864 I don't drink. The only reason you're on here communicating with the world is because of the English language, it's now the lingua franca of the world, whether you like it or not, and all you have to say is 'thank you'.
And grammatically, it's "consume a little less martinis". No need for the 'of', and no need to capitalise the word martini unless it's at the beginning of a sentence or is a person's name. Right, English 101 class is over. And.....you're welcome!
All these lives for a „stone“! For money people do everything!! Shame on humans!!
Then give the F*ng stone back!! Live something off of your own for once. Instead of greedily looking at others plate like beggars, then go on to say the world how great your dynasty is. losers.
Its twinkly!
The is immortal while human lives not
Not shame on humans that should be "Shame on British robbers"
@why bother tho? British not only robbed rock they also robbed 45 trillion dollars they also robbed massacres like "Jallianwla bagh and bengal femaine" they also robbed millions of lives of Indian... They also robbed Indians area by saying," Dogs and Indian not allowed"... we Indian don't give free speech lmao why don't this BBC make some documentaries on massacres of Jallianwla bagh and bengal femaine?? When India was successful in mission Mars they made a video and do you know what they particularly said," Inspite of this much poverty hungry why this country is investing in space"... wowww... Videos are still available mate go and see
For your kind information there wasn't Pakistan, India was same there wasn't any partition you divided the country for your kind information and the king was ruling in India
Kohinoor is our Telugu people's pride. It was first mined in kolluru mines, Andhra Pradesh during the rule of Kakatiyas Kings and fixed as left eye of goddess in Bhadrakali temple, Warangal, Telangana. As Warangal was capital of Kakatiyas.
India and especially Andra Pradesh
It's carbon mate
So is our body [CARBON] @@BlueCrashFigurineHoldingWumpa
Politicians are never at loss. It's always the common citizen who's at the receiving end of all the travesty of all the events. They'd enjoy the wealth taken away from those people and then people will forget all of this and choose them again for their next election
Well none of those emperors who took it ever did return it to the previous owners after they had taken it. However, imperialism is imperialism and people should of course own up to its bad practices
We should all return to our own countries... is that what you are also suggesting?
@@airbender9593 what a shitty take. there is a difference between people choosing to immigrate or getting forced to immigrate due to successful destabilization efforts of western powers in other countries than theft.
@@TempoHack I did NOT choose a side. I am replying based on the comment.
Don’t worry it will return to india
@@AntimatterFF-jb5zw $
History of ownership: The Koh-i-Noor diamond has a long and complex history of ownership. It was originally mined in India and was owned by various Indian rulers for centuries. However, it was later taken by the British East India Company and was eventually presented to Queen Victoria in 1850. Since then, it has been a part of the British Crown Jewels. Some people argue that the diamond was taken unfairly and should be returned to India.
A museum, maybe. But why should the tutti Queen of Thieves keep anything?
Obviously a 10 yr old boy who's mother was imprisoned and was defeated by the British what could've they done ask him politely give it to me or snatched the Kohinoor away from him.
It's no suspense that Kohinoor was taken by force, the gem that originated in India is a undetachable part of Indian history.
@@I_am_AmanSingh
Undetachable?
No offence but it seems fairly detached to me.
@@Arcaryon by undetachable part of INDIAN *HISTORY*, I think you should read carefully before opening your mouth.
If i ask you to complete 1 sentence or 2 about Kohinoor without taking name of India you'll sweat even framing the sentence. 😆
@@I_am_AmanSingh Sarcasm is not your forte :P ?
The Kohinoor is currently possession of the royal British family - it was consequently removed from its previous setting long before anyone who is alive today was even born. It has an obvious traditional symbolic value but it’s also symbol of the exact aristocracy that was subjugated as a result of its infighting.
An interesting piece without a doubt.
let me solve this... give me the diamond. i will be a middle man...
Haha. Nice try🤣
😂
The First dynasty to own this Kohinoor was Kartikaya Dynasty of South India after that it passed on to Khilji dynasty of Turkic origen then it passed to Tuglak dynasty.
As an Anglo Indian, I don’t really care as I’m never going to have the diamond in my house 😂
@@nihalkumar3203 cry harder bro 😂
Yes,but the diamond should be in jagannath temple in odisha
India today cuts 90% of world diamonds in Surat alone.
If we forget for one moment about the disputed ownership of the diamond itself , does anybody in their right minds think that the British Monarchy would break apart the crown to give this diamond to another nation
Nope. Never heard of thieves returning stuff.
Right. It will never happen until we abolish the monarchy, which will not be for many decades most likely, and probably not for a good while even after that.
@@nid-jk2vx
India was too weak to even protect It's goods...!!
India sold it... Don't cry
@@Vladimirputin11111 British stole it
UK King's Monarchy like Indian Kings is obsolete. It will eventually auction everything and become a nice hotel
Why is all the media silent about the East Palestine enviromental disaster?!
As I understand it, it was put on display by Queen Victoria & Prince Albert at Crystal Palace and it was not cut until it was put into the Crown following that display. Is that correct?
The decision against the Queen consort wearing the Kohinoor diamond, worn by Queen Mary in 1911 and the queen mother in 1937, comes amid rumblings about the jewel.
The Kohinoor is among the largest cut diamonds in the world, worth $591 million, and has a long history with the royal family, having been worn on crowns by generations of queens.
It is believed the diamond was taken from India by the East India Company during the colonial era and presented to Queen Victoria in 1850.
The precious diamond has been fought over for centuries, so much so that British royal legend says the diamond will bring bad luck to any man who wears it.
It currently is set in a crown last worn by Charles's grandmother during her coronation alongside King George VI in 1937.
The diamond India wants the royal family to return
The world's most expensive diamond, the "Kohinoor" is set in the crown made for the Queen Mother. With the passing of Queen Elizabeth II, Indians are asking for its return.

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That the diamond remains in the possession of the British royals is, according to the Indian government, a mark of continuing colonialism more than 75 years after India declared independence from British rule.
Since 2000, India's government has repeatedly requested Britain return the Kohinoor.
The royal family claims the diamond is its property, though it acknowledges it "probably" originated in India.
Following the death of Queen Elizabeth last year, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi warned that any plans for the Queen Consort to wear the Kohinoor at the coronation would bring back "painful memories of the colonial past".
As is tradition, King Charles will wear St Edward's Crown, which has now returned to public display at the Tower of London following the completion of minor modification work.
Since independent indian government is trying to get it back
It was NOT stolen by the British
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It was given as compensation.
It had previously been owned by a number of rulers before then. Several countries lay claim to it, but it was GIVEN to Britain by the last owner as compensation. Therefore it does belong to Britain. Know that.
@@angr3819 it was literally snatched from a minor kid. Law written by British for British by British.
@@angr3819 🤣🤣🤣
Fool British
@@godblessbharat708 On April 17th 2016 India’s solicitor-general Ranjit Kuma told the Indian Supreme Court that in the opinion of the Indian government, the Kohinoor diamond had not been forcibly taken but was a gift from the successors of Maharaja Ranjit Singh to East India Company in 1849 as compensation for helping them in the Sikh wars.
Give it back shameless Britain
😂
The law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another..
We can relate this to "power"
In politics
Because today it is a must that everything must be controversial.
Taking something that does not belong to you for whatever reasoning is still stealing.
So who really owns it then? Is it the person who originally found the diamond?
@@warmedpuma2024 It certainly does not belong to the British!
@@warmedpuma2024 shut up
@@GKP999 It belongs to whoever is strong enough to keep it. That's the point.
@@GKP999 After some time when london will belong to terrorist, you can tell the same thing to brits.
You must be the most gullible person if you think the British would ever allow any assets to be “returned” No matter what happened in the past, it’s currently in the possession of the UK
Just wait and watch!
Wait and watch what Britisher you father too returns stolen Jewellery item from India. Just wait.
It was a stolen diamond. They don't own it, it can be snatched. Snatched the same way they stole money and resources from other countries. Britain is not much powerful now anyway
@@polarbear7 We're waiting and watching. So far.....nothing.
@@SenorSol haha u will only watch !
Maharajah Ranjit Singh's dying wish was for the Kohinoor to be sent to jagganath Puri he always wanted to visit but due to his poor eyesight he neverade the treck which why he wanted to give to lord jagganath
Last time it was in Lahore Fort , where it was taken from Ranjeet Singh son , it's said who ever wears it his days are numbered from Mughals to Nadir Shah to Afghans to Sikhs to Victoria
Didn't harm either Queen Victoria nor Queen Elizabeth, both died of old age! So much for silly Indian superstitions, eh?
Do you know that kooh i noor
Is a Persian expression
That means"Mountain of Light"
Was it mentioned?
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Looted by nadir shah from India??
@@Nehas949
No Nadir Shah defeated Hindustan
@@DrStrange234 nadir shah looters plunder he defeated mughal😂😂😂like Britisher was looter he was too.
@@DrStrange234 Nadir Shah and their current country can lick our asses now.
@@Nehas949 didi its waste of time to argue with them.
the original Muslim rulers of India until the British came along
The part starting at @3:11 is so disheartening for an India...."The land which was rich with civilization, rich with wealth and admired, over the years that land has been dismemberment, had lot of it's wealth siphoned off to Better and uplift other civilization across the globe, what is left is land which is splinter and divide amounts itself"
And what about the part where India has been independent for 75 years now and has suffered from bad governance and endemic corruption for all of that time and yet continues to blame the Brits for everything?
@@SenorSol first of all get your vocabulary straight......it's not called blaming.....it's called spitting FACTS....
2nd of all...... India has surpassed British economy to become 5th biggest economy in the world......that too after 200 years of British exploit of India
@@rahulbhure2589 No, it's called blaming, it's called whataboutery, and it's called typical Indian hypocrisy and victimhood mentality.
It doesn't matter that India's economy has surpassed the UK economy, that money doesn't trickle down to the man in the street, most of India's wealth is controlled by the top 1%, most Indians don't pay income tax which is why you have crap services, and your infrastructure is still very poor, especially compared to China.
The FACTS are that India has been independent for 75 years now, you've had nothing but bad governance for all of that time, and endemic corruption, and India continues to get it's priorities wrong with loony and backwards Hindutva that prioritises useless giant statues and silly Ram temples over high-speed rail, water desalination plants, and employment for India's teeming youth!
You're in denial.
Frankly, I don't think that Camela should get anything shiny after the wilful & brazen part she played in Charles's adultery behind Diana's back...
She got what she wanted, she should have stayed in her own marital bed, so I'd rather see every Gem be returned to their countries of origin and the crown melted down before it ever went on her unworthy skull... But that's just my opinion on the matter.
Great video though.
Tell me this ?, Why are there so many poor people in India but yet they have a Space Program ???
First take care of your economy which is struggling
Im going to use their favourite word to answer this - hyoocrites
Same as Britain
@@Elephantstonica Oh yah Britain Space Program is so big.
@@jamesreid8523
You didn’t mention size.
But, the UKSA invests currently £469 million per year, and is also involved in other space agencies. It just put £1.84 billion in the ESA this past November.
Though investment by Britain or India, when measured against poverty, is a nonsense. All these international agencies make for vast profits, benefits and innovations compared to the relatively paltry financing, and are always a wise investment for any developed or developing country. Myriad jobs and industries rely on them nowadays. It is estimated that over £360 billion (about 17%) of the UK’s non-financial business GDP per year is dependent on satellites alone, and that the negative financial impact of the UK losing access to global navigation systems could be as high as £5.2 billion for a five day disruption.
ISRO's programs play a significant role in the socio-economic development of India and have supported both civilian and military domains in various aspects including disaster management, telemedicine and navigation and reconnaissance missions over the past 15 years. ISRO's spin-off technologies also have founded many crucial innovations for India's engineering and medical industries. At present its budget as a percentage of Indian GDP is about 0.05%. It also, just like and together with the Brits, cooperates regularly with most other space programs around the world. It has launched plenty of UK Satellites over the years, for profit.
tbh it should be mine
I agree, hamburger yum yum
@SEEK THE TRUTH! According to the Holy Bible, you'll end up in hell where you deserve to be
It's dumb to argue over diamonds now. Synthetic diamonds are better and cheaper. Just make one.
There are more beautiful and costlier ones, like the blue diamond that holds the record for the most valuable price per carat at $3.93 million.
@@solapowsj25 natural diamonds will never be as good as lab diamonds. Lab diamonds are perfect on a molecular level. Natural diamonds are costlier and more imperfect and they cost more. It's a waste at this point.
The forgot the main point, it was stolen from a Vijayanagar Temple by the Delhi Sultanate, it was not some random stone mined by the Mughals
Cor blimey! Jailed the mother to get the diamond from her ten year old kid ?..that’s criminal 😢
That is far less brutal than how the 'Indians' obtained it before that.
Shah Shuja Durrani in Afghanistan was having his son being tortured and that's why he surrendered the diamond to the Maharajah of Lahore.
It belongs to Afghanistan. The Indians stole it.
Not as bad as you might think and at the time a much less sever tactic compared to the myriad of owners assassinations that preceded. Remember this was a Treaty to end a war the Diamond was just a very fancy cherry and symbol of power transfer.
@@lyndoncmp5751 seriously? Indians obtained? It is mined from the southern part of India. Invaders stole that. Indians regained it the same way invaders did to Indians. Being british, the last invader clan . U guys are shamelessly spreading lies. It belongs to India.And one day. U guys lose the diamond too. Just like u guys lose Dublin. Till then live your colonial mindset.
and they also separated them Dulep was sent to England and never returned to Punjab until his mother told him the truth of his origin.
Need Ranjit Singh’s golden throne as well
Ask Adani for it!
@@SenorSol ask rishi for it 👁️👄👁️
@@Shreyansh_p It's not Rishi's to give back! It belongs to the British state! Besides, he'll be kicked out of office within the next 13 months!
I'll have that. I would look absolutely amazing sat in a throne 🙂
In 2018, at the Supreme Court of India the Archeological Survey of India clarified that the diamond was surrendered to the British and "it (the diamond) was neither stolen nor forcibly taken away".
Atleast Nadir Shah invaded India to loot it.. not like an evil person who took it from 10 year old by capturing his mother 😂😂😂
Partly true. Kohinoor diamond was first mined in the Guntur district of Andhra Pradesh, India, and it is believed to have been owned by various dynasties and rulers throughout history. However, there is no historical evidence to suggest that the diamond was ever fixed as the left eye of the goddess in the Bhadrakali temple in Warangal. Additionally, Warangal was indeed the capital of the Kakatiya dynasty, but the diamond's connection to the dynasty is a matter of speculation and is not supported by any concrete evidence.
The first suspected owner of the Kohinoor diamond was most likely the Kakatiya dynasty, a powerful kingdom that ruled over parts of present-day Andhra Pradesh and Telangana in southern India from the 12th to the 14th century. According to some historical accounts, the diamond was mined in the Kollur mines of Andhra Pradesh and was initially owned by the Kakatiya rulers. It is believed to have been passed down through various dynasties and empires, including the Delhi Sultanate and the Mughal Empire, before eventually ending up in the possession of the British East India Company in the mid-19th century. However, the exact history and provenance of the Kohinoor diamond is a subject of ongoing research and debate among historians and scholars.
The Kakatiya Empire was conquered and overthrown by the Delhi Sultanate in the 14th century. The Sultanate's armies, led by the general Malik Kafur, attacked and defeated the Kakatiya forces, eventually capturing the capital city of Warangal and annexing the kingdom. The Delhi Sultanate ruled over the region for several centuries, until it was eventually succeeded by the Mughal Empire in the 16th century.
It is now in Britain's possession.India should get over it
Never ever
exactly
2:02 '...and all these dynasties remarked on its resplendent beauty and sheer size, its scale. they all coalesced around one vision which was it was a simply beautiful piece of jewelry and an incredible natural resource.' sounds fabricated for today's minds to suit a certain narrative. fact is, the diamond was cut so lacklustre that it failed to impress viewers at the Great Exhibition in London back in 1851. only after prince Albert commissioned a re-cut and it got the form we know it in today did the stone start to garner wider interest.
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Exactly. That is a very important part of its history. Not to mention that it wasn’t as famous before, but also that has re-cut from the original diamond it was hundreds of years ago. It’s not te same anymore to the one once in what we today call India.
0:16
So, why was an ugly diamond taken and given to the crown!
This argument fails to address Kohinoor was the largest diamond that time. It is still among the largest. Value is for the size, not shine. e.g. A 5 carat diamond is multiple times more valuable than five one carat diamonds.
Who's building narratives to keep their minds in peace?
Isn't the Monalisa painting considered ugly by half of the world? But is it any less valuable? Its importance is attached to its painter, the context behind its creation ,the controversies surrounding and the mysteries created by the people around it. The picture is history.
By your logic one must put blush, contour, liner etc on the face to make it more aesthetically pleasing for people like you
Say it were given back to India or Pakistan. Surely the diamond would end up in someone’s private collection within the decade, and would never be seen again. It is for this reason it should not and will not be returned at least not until that issue is resolved. However, one day it will be returned and a glorious day that will be 🇮🇳🇵🇰
I say sell the damn thing and donate the proceeds to a cause the whole world has no issue with or at least find it difficult to complain about. If India/Pakistan/Afghanistan/Iran or whoever want it, let them fight it out and buy it at the auction, but the UK must not benefit from the proceeds in any way or form otherwise it is a pointless exercise. It is only a decoration on a useless crown at the end of the day anyway.
thank you, Palki Sharma, for making this possible !!!!!!
Who?
@chrisviking7807 but the first time bbc was forced to post a video about them confessing about british crimes and faults , as a result of her efforts .
It hurts so much when people blame the Queen because of misunderstandings and misinformation
How does India lay claim to the diamond when it’s only been a country since 1947? Ridiculous.
India be like : we are preparing to invade the UK
TAMPOCO VAN A TRANSMITIR TODAS LAS EJECUCIONES EN DIRECTO?
It isn't. The Indian government has said multiple times that it doesn't dispute the Koh-i-Noor.
The only people offended by it are the kind of people who look for things to be offended about.
@Pierre In It wasn't looted though. India thrived in the Empire, the narrative that it was oppressed was manufactured by Nazi-collaborating Japanese Empire-collaborating Indian nationalists that wanted the extermination of Muslims in their lands. Peace was only maintained as long as Britain prevented the two populations from slaughtering each other.
Something that Indian nationalists and western activists often quote is India's sharp decline as a % of world GDP under British rule, but that is misleading. The Indian economy remained strong, it just went down as a percentage because the industrial revolution meant that western Europe exploded in productivity. Indian handcraft was overtaken by machine power, but the actual output of India wasn't changed.
Money flowed from Britain into India, not the other way around. Consider: if the UK was exploiting India for riches, why would they give India up so willingly after WW2 had drained British wealth? Because it was too expensive to maintain. If the UK were actually the tyrannical overlords of popular imagination, why would they give up a source of income so eagerly? It was a drain, not a fountain.
@@TheAtlasReview finally someone who isnt just anti-british for no modern reason
@@TheAtlasReview you seriously in your right mind say India thrived under the British rule,the only reason I may thank Britain is for seperating major of the extremist muslim population away from India(still sucks to have them in 200 million "minority" community); stealing so much resources and instilling exorbitant tax on the Indian population; you must one of the fools who think India could not have developed railways without Britain.Britain is in decline like many other old strong civilizations,noone gives a shit anymore about Britain because now it's just a tiny island with no other dominance other than being the origin of Harry Potter books or having some stupid banks in London, USA,India and china kicking Britain so deep into oblivion,it will end up like greece(a middle class European country).
@@alienware2149 Located an angry loo pooer. India could not have built railways without Britain. India can't even build railways *now* lol.
I'm sorry for Britain uniting your country from the thousands of petty princedoms it was when we found it.
I'm sorry for preventing you savages from committing genocide against each other.
I'm sorry for giving you the water that your corrupt government can't.
I'm sorry for giving you all free vaccines.
I'm sorry for saving you from the Japanese Empire.
I'm sorry for trying to end your ridiculous caste system.
I'm sorry for all the technology, education, medicine and justice that your backwards civilisation has already forgotten.
But most of all, I'm sorry you never learned how to use a toilet.
@@TheAtlasReview Very true! Best comment of this thread!!!
So many diamonds leave their original home. The African continent has an entire industry around mining diamonds and exporting them to the West. This has always happened around the world. In an ideal world the Kohi Noor would return home to India but we are not living in an ideal world. The UK will never willingly give up the diamond. The Royal Family is obsessed with money however so if India offered them a few billion pounds, I'm sure they'd sell.
nah it ain't about the money , its about their pride of ruling India .
@chrisviking7807 Criticising the monarchy for loving wealth isn't anti-British so pipe down
Why would India has to pay to take back its own diamond? Britain has to return all its loot if has any shame left!
@@KiriAatam To the victor goes the spoils I'm afraid. Maybe India should have fought harder to keep the Brits out.
@@kashattack But, the Brits never fought fair. Had they fought fair, a tiny UK could not have ruled over a colossal behemoth called India! Times are changing now, UK would become irrelevant to India in the years ahead! BTW, this diamond was plucked out from a child ruler of India by the Brits. So much for fairness!
An Indian-origin Brit explaining the history of this diamond in his british accent is so ironic.
Bengal famine,The Bengal famine stands as one of the single most horrific atrocities to have occurred under British colonial rule. From 1943 to 1944, more than three million Indians died of starvation and malnutrition, and millions more fell into crushing poverty.
Bengal famine was caused by natural events plus Indian corruption, and besides India has more than made up for those losses seeing as your population doubled TWICE in the space of half a century! Stop whining, and learn how to use condoms! Sigh.
@@SenorSol For your info, the Indian and Bengali(Bangladeshi )population doubled after their respective Independences and Economic growth and the respective Govts are Educating their respective population ON HOW TO USE A CONDOM so u don't need to teach it here.
@@homosapien2983 Not quite true at all. I researched the Indian census data from 1940 onwards, and between 1940-80 it doubled once, and between 1980-2011 it doubled again. So, that population growth started before independence and carried on unchecked until now. India's population is STILL growing, supposedly overtaking China by this year, and that's not a good thing.
You're also wrong about respective governments teaching sexual reproductive health in anything like an organised or concerted way. Firstly, Bangladesh is ruled by a de facto dictator who is conservative and beholden to Islamists who hate women, so they have no agency over their own bodies at all, and likewise India under the Hindutva loonies is burdened with Victorian prudishness and shame at having to teach kids sex ed and with boring predictability the rates of teenage pregnancies and STIs are high. Facts, eh?
How can you even begin the tackle the problem if people like you are in denial?
Yeeeah. Definitely time to cancel my TV licence like all my mates have
years ahead of you, stand by for the threatening letters
@@graveperil2169 ??
Spectacular illustration
@SEEK THE TRUTH! Islam peaceful you must be joking.
return the diamond to india as well as the benin bronzes you are clutching onto claiming stolen treasures are yours is despicable
BBC ne Dil pe le liya -- firstpost
British Museum = Chor Bazaar
Why did you put this now...... about kohinoor.
Even though this segment leaves out vast tracts of information, It's good that the BBC presents this information in cartoon format - makes it easier for the British audience to understand.
Like the Mughal empire wasn't brutal in it's clinging to power... LOL
spot on assertion
Yes but you can’t compare it brits who stole the wealth out of the country whilst Mughals lived there and made it prosperous!
The mughals wanted to rule the British wanted to use india the difference is you don't see india as yours you see it as a separate entity that was just there to be exploited
Classic whatabout-ism
hindus kill people for eating beef
It's ours 🙏🇮🇳❤️
No, it’s not.
@@boarbot7829 it was extracted from mine of Indian in Godwana
@@boarbot7829 okay then tell the reason why it's not?
@@princejaat007. you literally signed it away in a treaty. The thing is, there’s no actual need for the diamond, but this just comes out of a hateful, salty sentiment. Most of “your” diamonds are in Iran, but you don’t make nearly as big a fuss about those.
@@boarbot7829 Diamonds like in Iran we don't need them we still have more like them but we need back our finest diamond that was stolen from us. And also tell me from where are you man?
Countless time?
0:45 'thousands of years ago, a diamond was sifted from the sand of India's alluvial mines.' *thousands* of years ago? surely that is a bit exaggerated. nobody knows anything concrete about its origins. there is no record predating the Mughal Peacock throne link. the best we can assume is it was mined in the middle ages (13th or 14th century). the BBC needs better quality control
This is beyond inaccurate the East India Company never imprisoned anyone's mother, in fact the diamond was a reward for her rescue and seventeen men died that were employed in the presidency armies that were the armies of the three presidencies of the East India Company's rule in India, later the forces of the British Crown in India, composed primarily of Indian sepoys. The presidency armies were named after the presidencies: the Bengal Army, the Madras Army and the Bombay Army. All of these records still exist, why twist the truth about it now!!!!!!Ranjit Singh was taken ill, and he died at Lahore in June 1839-almost exactly 40 years after he entered the city as a conqueror. In little more than six years after his death, the Sikh state he had created collapsed because of the internecine strife of rival chiefs. Who really did kidnap the queen and threaten his heir. Had they got the diamond it would have been sold for weapons and further bloodshed. Dalip Singh, the prince was given a generous annual pension, he became a Christian and chose to live in England, where he was well received in society. He gifted this diamond, and it was his to gift, so telling lies to get it back into greedy hands is wrong.
Imagine using a mother's suffering to force her 10-year-old child to give you what doesn't belong to you..
colonisers do be like that.
I would destroy the entire United Kingdom if it benefited me. What's your point?
THIS DIAMOND WAS FROM BABURID EMPIRE!!! (FROM UZBEKS). LOOK AT IT'S NAME: KOH-I-NOOR.
Look, what Indian people need to know is that the late Queen Elizabeth II never in her life wore Kohinoor. Her mother wore it, apparently even her name was also Elizabeth, but she was not a queen in her own right, she was a consort to the king. A queen consort, not a 'monarch'. Only children born to a ruling King or Queen can be called as future heir to the throne.
The stone was won by conquest.
lol. U mean deception.
ohh really
Throw the useless stone into deep ocean
We don't want real life taken for a white stone of no value
Human life is more important than stone
Camila has realized that wearing Kohinoor which was taken from India is like wearing Elizabeth’s underwear 😂😂😂😂😂
Give the diamond back and apologize for all the damage done
I like the idea of the Koh-i-Noor diamond heading back to India,
but it wasn't other empires that fractured India:
rather they (unethically) exploited fractures that were already there.
I would LOVE to see a strong, healthy, vibrant India--made whole through cooperation, rather than force.
It is that strength, through healthy nourishing internal cooperation--more than anything else--that will call the Koh-i-Noor home.
I like the idea of the indian and pakistani immigrants heading back to India, especially rishi sunak
@@noimnotarobotcanubeleiveit7024 That is exactly the kind of deepening of fractures that led to the loss of the diamond in the first place.
@@noimnotarobotcanubeleiveit7024 I would also like britisher to head back to England and leave Scotland, whales and N ireland
You guys can start with developing working toilets, and the removal of the (still in place) caste system, that treats dark skinned Indians as literal shit. Also Cow Urine and Cow Dung aren't cures FFS.
@Chris Viking Perhaps India as a rich civilisation goes several 1000 years back when Britain was in the dark ages!
There are arguments to make for returning the Koh-i-Noor to one of it's previous countries but it is worth noting that in it's long history of being looted through conquest none of the previous owners in the Indian subcontinent ever returned it to a previous owner. Seems a bit rich that previous owners would be demanding something to be done now that they themselves never did in the past in their thousands of years of opportunities. For the Koh-i-Noor to be returned to a previous owner would be something that would be unprecedented in it's history. I'm not saying that it shouldn't happen I'm just saying that it should, at least, be acknowledged.
"Loot" is an Indian word. (History and Etymology - Noun and Verb - Hindi & Urdu lūṭ; akin to Sanskrit luṇṭati he plunders)
I say the British should give it to Afghanistan just to annoy the Indians. That's where it supposedly came from until the Indians stole it.
@@lyndoncmp5751 The rulers were ruling India and the wealth was within India it wasn't flowing to UK.. Britishers will remain robbers and will make excuses till the day they die
@why bother tho? Pakistan wasn't there during British Raj!! Britishers divided the country named Hindustan and the kohinoor was mined from Andhra pradesh it belongs to India
Just clear up your facts
Razz granger,
It was reputedly stolen from what is now Afghanistan, so they have more right to it than Indians. Please, don't be hypocritical.
@@lyndoncmp5751 lol!! Read history first not British fake history where you give reward to Winston churchil mate for humanity who killed millions/billions of Indian in Jallianwla bagh masscare and bengal femaine and these fake history readers trying to show me that belongs to Afghanistan... It was mined from Andhra pradesh just go and Google it and the king was ruling in India...
It's not only Kohinoor diamond that they stole, their are many rare artifacts, sculptures of hindu gods and many more items and now it's in their museum as they were their own.
never ever again call a Persian king, a Stealer
That stone is going to stay in the Uk I don't think Charles will hand it over
Then we can change charles. Uk is not same anymore. They're losing the race.
ofc why will king charles will even return ...
@@handduckling he will. World order is reordering.
Is that a one they took it from iran ?
Yes
In Iran we are still keeping "Dariaye Noor" in the central bank.
Iranian Shaha looted Delhi lol !
And that diamond origin is from Andhra Pradesh,India (golkunda diamond mine)
Which was later donated to a temple it's stay there for some good ammount of time then a greedy mf king looted that temple and rest is history! That time changed empires over empires like cloths lol ! There is saying after removing it from temple there is a series of downfall of kingdoms who looted it from one another ! After some theory they saying only when this diamond if women wear then curse can be stop ! That's the reason it's fitted to Elizabeth crown ! But after she died naturally !now curse begins haha ! Uk is falling hard we all can see it haha !
I feel the diamond is cursed and effects the power that holds it
He omitted that Afghanistan also lays claim to it
Does any internationally recognized government exist in afghanistan??
So he’s saying it wasn’t stolen, it was handed over by a 10 year old. Great.
oooo
A ( young ) noble paying tribute to their ruler or another more powerful noble for favors and similar influence etc. is highly common in all societies which have any such systems.
Isn't possession 9/10ths of the law?
Yeah, if you're like 7.
@@Frack_Black
Custody presumes ownership.
All property is theft 😄
It’s really small compared to the Cullinan Stones.
More serious and pressing matters going on in the world......than an old polished stone. Give it to whoever, who cares.
That's diamond belongs to my state & country - Andhra Pradesh & india 🇮🇳
So the British colonies stole the koh I noor from a ten year old thus the term like stealing candy from a baby was born, and now there is no empress to wear it, unless William wants to add it to his sundress
It isn't controversial, it was stolen from India, it needs to be returned to the rightful owners.
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I mean... When you conqure a place and become its owner... Goods and riches of that place becomes yours... Kinda... Not that i think its a good thing to do
Wasn't it stolen from Iran?
there was no India before the British came along
It wasn’t stolen at all
It’s been cut so much already might as well cut it again into four pieces and then all claimants can have a piece.
Everyone happy.
Only India's claim is genuine and historically backed from the place where it was mined to the majority of its presence in India , rest of the claims are fabricated by the british as an excuse to keep it for themselves .
@@ThEEqualizer93
Not true is it.
@@Elephantstonica believe what you want facts don't change for opinions.
@@ThEEqualizer93
That’s right. So not about belief is it. Is what it is, and then there’s the fact that it has no actual inherent value anyway. Not past it’s links to history that is. Which would be the same wherever it lays. A mere bauble.
Ironically, despite that it’s in one of the crowns the government is who decides what to do with it and where it goes so Rishi Sinai who is ethically Indian is now the owner and he hasn’t given it back yet who would it even go to ?
It really looks like a giant piece of moissanite
We live under the yoke of a regime which appears to consider us - the British people - a mere obstacle, and a bitterly resented one at that. This regime will allow us no more opportunity for hope, comfort or fulfilment in our lives, than is necessary to keep us from mass disobedience while they manage us out of existence as an identifiable people.
Yes Canada too.
What????
@@MrAlfie1972 I'm just as bewildered as you... These hypocrites probably watch conspiracy theorists all day, and then they blame society because of the pathetic faults they have... nothing but a bunch of oxygen wasters lol
@@MrAlfie1972 Also, the @JamesSmith is a Russian sympathiser, and he's talking about regimes in the west lol... pathetic hypocrite.
@@arfgrogue5735 thanks for your comments, it's a little less unclear now! I hope Mr Smith finds all the hope, comfort and fulfilment he deserves in Putin's Russia. Shame he can’t do something positive with his time.
As a indian,plz don't return..this politicians will sale this for money..they will do. Anything for money
To be honest they can keep the diamonds, pearls, emeralds and precious jewels we've got better things to do than worry about precious stones.