@@asphodeliad1035 - yes. But your discoveries were not stolen from you. But the diamond is a possession. We're not stopping you from carving your own diamond in the Kohinoor's likeliness, we're simply saying, give us our diamond back
@@sabin97 What do you call Adani, Mallya, Nirav Modi, and Subrata Roy ripping off the Indian people? And what do Indians call their endemically corrupt political class?
@@SenorSol i dont call them. i just say "thank you, come again" in my best apu accent. and back on topic. the english stole that stone. they should give it back. you are aware those are different topics, right?
@@sabin97 They didn't steal it, it was surrendered after India was conquered. That's how things worked, and it also happened in other conquests by other empires. Time to get over it and stop sucking your thumb about the past. The topics are linked, mainly because it shows up typical Indian hypocrisy and whataboutery. The same Indians who whine about the Kohinoor are the same Indians who say and do nothing about the endemic corruption within Indian society that helps to keep India backwards.
The amount of wealth looted from India is enormous, Nadir shah looted the whole throne, I have read that along with Kohinoor, that throne was decorated by many precious stones & gold . Now, there's nothing we can do 🙂.
Funny, until I saw this, I've only ever seen Indians blame only the British for "stealing" when this video clearly shows that even before Britain was in India, other civilisations looted, raided and pillaged India. How ironic. Guess Indians need to learn a bit more history..
@@bravestone9987 The Vikings pillaged wealth, raped and murdered people when they came to England from Norway. They also enslaved the natives. Tell me how that's any different? But you don't see British people complain about it do you, history is history. Cry me a river 🥱
Based on the stone's tradition, India would have to invade the UK and take it back. I think the fact the stone has been taken by the victor of conflicts for centuries to be fascinating. Whoever defeats England will own the diamond next, and so on till the end of time.
@@abhinay4200 Why are the angry Indians not asking for the “Daria-i-Noor” back- another Indian diamond currently held in Iran. And this one is actually much larger and significantly rarer, being of the incredible pale pink colour.
Maybe it should go to the descendent of the miner who first laid hands on the bloody thing. Or maybe it should ceremoniously be dropped into the sea or sold to the richest man in the world with the money sent to good causes. Bickering over which nation should hold it when neither Britain or India actually existed as legal entities when the diamond was found seems a bit small minded. Lets think outside the box people
@@eyeofthepyramid2596 Kohinoor Diamond's original name is Syamantaka which was a gift given to Shri Krishna by his wife Mata Rukmini's Father. That's not new, the fact is real history has been hidden from us.
as an Iranian I don't think Iran has any right over the jewel it was acquired through imperialism it would be no different than Englands claim to the jewel. since Pakistan used to be part of India I think they should return the jewel to the country which it was first discovered. what I mean by that is within the border of whichever country it was first discovered it should be returned to that country.
It's first' was in found in Indian mine ! Then it's donated to temple of andhrapradesh! And then a king looted that temple rest is history that curse continues its change its owner literally every decade or every century
First of all the diamond itself was stolen from some temple in andhra Pradesh India by invaders then it passed among several Indian kingdoms then ultimately British stole it from a child ruler in Punjab .
It is believed that the diamond was first mentioned more than 5000 years ago in a Sanskrit script, where it was called the Syamantaka. It has a history, and it'll track back to its original owners in time.
That long ago..... 😳 Woooo 🤔 that would actually mean it probably originally was owned by Zoroastrians. There probably to smart to want to get involved in this though lol
The stone is not 'cursed' or anything like that. It's just a carbon crystal. It's the people who are at fault who fight over this object, not the stone itself.
There is because it's history mate. Literally, all of history is about stealing why does this matter more it's ridiculous should we ask Scandinavia to hand over everything they stole?
Kohinoor is our Telugu people's pride. It was first mined in kolluru mines, Andhra Pradesh during the rule of Kakatiyas Kings and fixed as left eye of goddess in Bhadrakali temple, Warangal, Telangana. As Warangal was capital of Kakatiyas.
History of ownership: The Koh-i-Noor diamond has a long and complex history of ownership. It was originally mined in India and was owned by various Indian rulers for centuries. However, it was later taken by the British East India Company and was eventually presented to Queen Victoria in 1850. Since then, it has been a part of the British Crown Jewels. Some people argue that the diamond was taken unfairly and should be returned to India.
Obviously a 10 yr old boy who's mother was imprisoned and was defeated by the British what could've they done ask him politely give it to me or snatched the Kohinoor away from him. It's no suspense that Kohinoor was taken by force, the gem that originated in India is a undetachable part of Indian history.
@@Arcaryon by undetachable part of INDIAN *HISTORY*, I think you should read carefully before opening your mouth. If i ask you to complete 1 sentence or 2 about Kohinoor without taking name of India you'll sweat even framing the sentence. 😆
@@I_am_AmanSingh Sarcasm is not your forte :P ? The Kohinoor is currently possession of the royal British family - it was consequently removed from its previous setting long before anyone who is alive today was even born. It has an obvious traditional symbolic value but it’s also symbol of the exact aristocracy that was subjugated as a result of its infighting. An interesting piece without a doubt.
Then give the F*ng stone back!! Live something off of your own for once. Instead of greedily looking at others plate like beggars, then go on to say the world how great your dynasty is. losers.
@why bother tho? British not only robbed rock they also robbed 45 trillion dollars they also robbed massacres like "Jallianwla bagh and bengal femaine" they also robbed millions of lives of Indian... They also robbed Indians area by saying," Dogs and Indian not allowed"... we Indian don't give free speech lmao why don't this BBC make some documentaries on massacres of Jallianwla bagh and bengal femaine?? When India was successful in mission Mars they made a video and do you know what they particularly said," Inspite of this much poverty hungry why this country is investing in space"... wowww... Videos are still available mate go and see For your kind information there wasn't Pakistan, India was same there wasn't any partition you divided the country for your kind information and the king was ruling in India
Well none of those emperors who took it ever did return it to the previous owners after they had taken it. However, imperialism is imperialism and people should of course own up to its bad practices
@@airbender9593 what a shitty take. there is a difference between people choosing to immigrate or getting forced to immigrate due to successful destabilization efforts of western powers in other countries than theft.
@chrisviking7807 but the first time bbc was forced to post a video about them confessing about british crimes and faults , as a result of her efforts .
@@SenorSol 😂Take your English and flourish ma'am .. God save us from these grammer nazis cum (only going for English as a language and not even trying to interpret the context) . Hail MA'AM/SIR WREN plus consume little less of MARTINI.
@@jaggadakku1864 I don't drink. The only reason you're on here communicating with the world is because of the English language, it's now the lingua franca of the world, whether you like it or not, and all you have to say is 'thank you'. And grammatically, it's "consume a little less martinis". No need for the 'of', and no need to capitalise the word martini unless it's at the beginning of a sentence or is a person's name. Right, English 101 class is over. And.....you're welcome!
If we forget for one moment about the disputed ownership of the diamond itself , does anybody in their right minds think that the British Monarchy would break apart the crown to give this diamond to another nation
Right. It will never happen until we abolish the monarchy, which will not be for many decades most likely, and probably not for a good while even after that.
@@princejaat007. you literally signed it away in a treaty. The thing is, there’s no actual need for the diamond, but this just comes out of a hateful, salty sentiment. Most of “your” diamonds are in Iran, but you don’t make nearly as big a fuss about those.
@@boarbot7829 Diamonds like in Iran we don't need them we still have more like them but we need back our finest diamond that was stolen from us. And also tell me from where are you man?
I mean... When you conqure a place and become its owner... Goods and riches of that place becomes yours... Kinda... Not that i think its a good thing to do
2:02 '...and all these dynasties remarked on its resplendent beauty and sheer size, its scale. they all coalesced around one vision which was it was a simply beautiful piece of jewelry and an incredible natural resource.' sounds fabricated for today's minds to suit a certain narrative. fact is, the diamond was cut so lacklustre that it failed to impress viewers at the Great Exhibition in London back in 1851. only after prince Albert commissioned a re-cut and it got the form we know it in today did the stone start to garner wider interest.
Exactly. That is a very important part of its history. Not to mention that it wasn’t as famous before, but also that has re-cut from the original diamond it was hundreds of years ago. It’s not te same anymore to the one once in what we today call India.
So, why was an ugly diamond taken and given to the crown! This argument fails to address Kohinoor was the largest diamond that time. It is still among the largest. Value is for the size, not shine. e.g. A 5 carat diamond is multiple times more valuable than five one carat diamonds. Who's building narratives to keep their minds in peace?
Isn't the Monalisa painting considered ugly by half of the world? But is it any less valuable? Its importance is attached to its painter, the context behind its creation ,the controversies surrounding and the mysteries created by the people around it. The picture is history. By your logic one must put blush, contour, liner etc on the face to make it more aesthetically pleasing for people like you
In 2018, at the Supreme Court of India the Archeological Survey of India clarified that the diamond was surrendered to the British and "it (the diamond) was neither stolen nor forcibly taken away".
@@solapowsj25 natural diamonds will never be as good as lab diamonds. Lab diamonds are perfect on a molecular level. Natural diamonds are costlier and more imperfect and they cost more. It's a waste at this point.
Politicians are never at loss. It's always the common citizen who's at the receiving end of all the travesty of all the events. They'd enjoy the wealth taken away from those people and then people will forget all of this and choose them again for their next election
It isn't. The Indian government has said multiple times that it doesn't dispute the Koh-i-Noor. The only people offended by it are the kind of people who look for things to be offended about.
@Pierre In It wasn't looted though. India thrived in the Empire, the narrative that it was oppressed was manufactured by Nazi-collaborating Japanese Empire-collaborating Indian nationalists that wanted the extermination of Muslims in their lands. Peace was only maintained as long as Britain prevented the two populations from slaughtering each other. Something that Indian nationalists and western activists often quote is India's sharp decline as a % of world GDP under British rule, but that is misleading. The Indian economy remained strong, it just went down as a percentage because the industrial revolution meant that western Europe exploded in productivity. Indian handcraft was overtaken by machine power, but the actual output of India wasn't changed. Money flowed from Britain into India, not the other way around. Consider: if the UK was exploiting India for riches, why would they give India up so willingly after WW2 had drained British wealth? Because it was too expensive to maintain. If the UK were actually the tyrannical overlords of popular imagination, why would they give up a source of income so eagerly? It was a drain, not a fountain.
@@TheAtlasReview you seriously in your right mind say India thrived under the British rule,the only reason I may thank Britain is for seperating major of the extremist muslim population away from India(still sucks to have them in 200 million "minority" community); stealing so much resources and instilling exorbitant tax on the Indian population; you must one of the fools who think India could not have developed railways without Britain.Britain is in decline like many other old strong civilizations,noone gives a shit anymore about Britain because now it's just a tiny island with no other dominance other than being the origin of Harry Potter books or having some stupid banks in London, USA,India and china kicking Britain so deep into oblivion,it will end up like greece(a middle class European country).
@@alienware2149 Located an angry loo pooer. India could not have built railways without Britain. India can't even build railways *now* lol. I'm sorry for Britain uniting your country from the thousands of petty princedoms it was when we found it. I'm sorry for preventing you savages from committing genocide against each other. I'm sorry for giving you the water that your corrupt government can't. I'm sorry for giving you all free vaccines. I'm sorry for saving you from the Japanese Empire. I'm sorry for trying to end your ridiculous caste system. I'm sorry for all the technology, education, medicine and justice that your backwards civilisation has already forgotten. But most of all, I'm sorry you never learned how to use a toilet.
@@whtfl shutup It belongs to india Kohinoor originated from India 🇮🇳 Where is golkunda now ??? -pakistan, bangladesh, Uzbekistan?????? Answer -india There is no iran at that time
The First dynasty to own this Kohinoor was Kartikaya Dynasty of South India after that it passed on to Khilji dynasty of Turkic origen then it passed to Tuglak dynasty.
Why is it suddenly illegitimate for the British to own the diamond when it’s history of ownership has ALWAYS been marred by conquest and violence. Throughout its history it has always been claimed by right of conquest why is it suddenly not the same when it’s the British who own it? Seems like a double standard. And it’s rather presumptive of Indians to think that the diamond is automatically their possession. Why not the descendants of Duleep Singh? Or Pakistan since Lahore,the seat of the Sikh empire, was where the diamond was taken from? Or Afghanistan or Iran?
@@rohanthandi4903 Why should England have to pay reparations? It’s history. Should Iran have to pay India back trillions of dollars because Nader Shah looted the Delhi treasury in 1738? Should Spain have to pay back Mexico for the fall of tenochitalan in 1531? Should Italy have to pay reparations to Turkey for the 1204 sack of Constantinople? Of course not. It’s just the course of history. It just so happens that the British occupation of India occurred closer to modern history. I’m not saying that the British were right in their occupation but why is it suddenly not okay when it’s been okay for thousands of years. Reparations are stupid.
@@henrylivingstone2971 none of the events you listed are remotely similar. Way to justify your crimes by just claiming it’s just a part of history 🤣 of course reparations are impossible but notice how butt hurt you got just at the thought of it. The British raj existed until 1946. It’s not some ancient history as you claim. I can’t imagine the mental gymnastics that goes on in your head to justify such a long and brutal occupation as being a natural part of history. If the French had conquered England in 1815 and destroyed the educational system, stripped all the resources, plundered the treasury and prevented any growth and setup a closed economy where England was forced to buy goods made with its own materials then permanently occupied the country while making sure the population was destitute and lacked any means of self determination would you accept that as a natural part of history? Would you get angry defending the actions of the French as a completely justified part of history in this scenario as you are with England?
The law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another.. We can relate this to "power" In politics
The part starting at @3:11 is so disheartening for an India...."The land which was rich with civilization, rich with wealth and admired, over the years that land has been dismemberment, had lot of it's wealth siphoned off to Better and uplift other civilization across the globe, what is left is land which is splinter and divide amounts itself"
And what about the part where India has been independent for 75 years now and has suffered from bad governance and endemic corruption for all of that time and yet continues to blame the Brits for everything?
@@SenorSol first of all get your vocabulary straight......it's not called blaming.....it's called spitting FACTS.... 2nd of all...... India has surpassed British economy to become 5th biggest economy in the world......that too after 200 years of British exploit of India
@@rahulbhure2589 No, it's called blaming, it's called whataboutery, and it's called typical Indian hypocrisy and victimhood mentality. It doesn't matter that India's economy has surpassed the UK economy, that money doesn't trickle down to the man in the street, most of India's wealth is controlled by the top 1%, most Indians don't pay income tax which is why you have crap services, and your infrastructure is still very poor, especially compared to China. The FACTS are that India has been independent for 75 years now, you've had nothing but bad governance for all of that time, and endemic corruption, and India continues to get it's priorities wrong with loony and backwards Hindutva that prioritises useless giant statues and silly Ram temples over high-speed rail, water desalination plants, and employment for India's teeming youth! You're in denial.
The mughals wanted to rule the British wanted to use india the difference is you don't see india as yours you see it as a separate entity that was just there to be exploited
So many diamonds leave their original home. The African continent has an entire industry around mining diamonds and exporting them to the West. This has always happened around the world. In an ideal world the Kohi Noor would return home to India but we are not living in an ideal world. The UK will never willingly give up the diamond. The Royal Family is obsessed with money however so if India offered them a few billion pounds, I'm sure they'd sell.
@@kashattack But, the Brits never fought fair. Had they fought fair, a tiny UK could not have ruled over a colossal behemoth called India! Times are changing now, UK would become irrelevant to India in the years ahead! BTW, this diamond was plucked out from a child ruler of India by the Brits. So much for fairness!
This is beyond inaccurate the East India Company never imprisoned anyone's mother, in fact the diamond was a reward for her rescue and seventeen men died that were employed in the presidency armies that were the armies of the three presidencies of the East India Company's rule in India, later the forces of the British Crown in India, composed primarily of Indian sepoys. The presidency armies were named after the presidencies: the Bengal Army, the Madras Army and the Bombay Army. All of these records still exist, why twist the truth about it now!!!!!!Ranjit Singh was taken ill, and he died at Lahore in June 1839-almost exactly 40 years after he entered the city as a conqueror. In little more than six years after his death, the Sikh state he had created collapsed because of the internecine strife of rival chiefs. Who really did kidnap the queen and threaten his heir. Had they got the diamond it would have been sold for weapons and further bloodshed. Dalip Singh, the prince was given a generous annual pension, he became a Christian and chose to live in England, where he was well received in society. He gifted this diamond, and it was his to gift, so telling lies to get it back into greedy hands is wrong.
It was stolen from a under age 🙄 boy ! Whome they separated from his mom for his whole life! So yeah ! Legally lol what a joke ! U MF's that kids soul will never let u guys rise again ! Never even let him his mom once !
@Pierre In It was perfectly legal back in the 1849 yes - also Duleep Singh was in fact 11, but his regent was Gulab Singh who was 57 at the time. I'd consider doing research before being so outspoken on a topic. If the Indian Goverment do not want the diamond back, then they are certainly not having it back.
You must be the most gullible person if you think the British would ever allow any assets to be “returned” No matter what happened in the past, it’s currently in the possession of the UK
It was a stolen diamond. They don't own it, it can be snatched. Snatched the same way they stole money and resources from other countries. Britain is not much powerful now anyway
The fact is it most probably would be lost now if it had not ended up in the Crown Jewels. India hasvsufered horrific assaults, not just from the British. But it is their property, so give it back.
Look, what Indian people need to know is that the late Queen Elizabeth II never in her life wore Kohinoor. Her mother wore it, apparently even her name was also Elizabeth, but she was not a queen in her own right, she was a consort to the king. A queen consort, not a 'monarch'. Only children born to a ruling King or Queen can be called as future heir to the throne.
Last time it was in Lahore Fort , where it was taken from Ranjeet Singh son , it's said who ever wears it his days are numbered from Mughals to Nadir Shah to Afghans to Sikhs to Victoria
The decision against the Queen consort wearing the Kohinoor diamond, worn by Queen Mary in 1911 and the queen mother in 1937, comes amid rumblings about the jewel. The Kohinoor is among the largest cut diamonds in the world, worth $591 million, and has a long history with the royal family, having been worn on crowns by generations of queens. It is believed the diamond was taken from India by the East India Company during the colonial era and presented to Queen Victoria in 1850. The precious diamond has been fought over for centuries, so much so that British royal legend says the diamond will bring bad luck to any man who wears it. It currently is set in a crown last worn by Charles's grandmother during her coronation alongside King George VI in 1937. The diamond India wants the royal family to return The world's most expensive diamond, the "Kohinoor" is set in the crown made for the Queen Mother. With the passing of Queen Elizabeth II, Indians are asking for its return.  Read more That the diamond remains in the possession of the British royals is, according to the Indian government, a mark of continuing colonialism more than 75 years after India declared independence from British rule. Since 2000, India's government has repeatedly requested Britain return the Kohinoor. The royal family claims the diamond is its property, though it acknowledges it "probably" originated in India. Following the death of Queen Elizabeth last year, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi warned that any plans for the Queen Consort to wear the Kohinoor at the coronation would bring back "painful memories of the colonial past". As is tradition, King Charles will wear St Edward's Crown, which has now returned to public display at the Tower of London following the completion of minor modification work.
It was NOT stolen by the British ruclips.net/user/shortsEKQuSMQuaZI?feature=share It was given as compensation. It had previously been owned by a number of rulers before then. Several countries lay claim to it, but it was GIVEN to Britain by the last owner as compensation. Therefore it does belong to Britain. Know that.
@@godblessbharat708 On April 17th 2016 India’s solicitor-general Ranjit Kuma told the Indian Supreme Court that in the opinion of the Indian government, the Kohinoor diamond had not been forcibly taken but was a gift from the successors of Maharaja Ranjit Singh to East India Company in 1849 as compensation for helping them in the Sikh wars.
@@SenorSol 😂🤣 so u want him to read a book written by a British National who graduated from the King's College after studying WHITE WASHED HISTORY of British Empire...😂
I like the idea of the Koh-i-Noor diamond heading back to India, but it wasn't other empires that fractured India: rather they (unethically) exploited fractures that were already there. I would LOVE to see a strong, healthy, vibrant India--made whole through cooperation, rather than force. It is that strength, through healthy nourishing internal cooperation--more than anything else--that will call the Koh-i-Noor home.
You guys can start with developing working toilets, and the removal of the (still in place) caste system, that treats dark skinned Indians as literal shit. Also Cow Urine and Cow Dung aren't cures FFS.
1. If England is so bad, the memories are so painful, whys everyone there. 2. If traumatic to the magnitude that is claimed... I really would not want to be anywhere near....
When Westerners came to trade they had nothing to barter and Indians demanded gold which became the default standard currency. Major chunk was locally mined which Islamic & British plundered.India was only source of diamonds till mid 19th century later mining started in SAfrica
So basically the onus is on India to forget the "trauma" of colonial history while Britishers can keep the stolen treasures? Are there any morals left?
@@jamesreid8523 You didn’t mention size. But, the UKSA invests currently £469 million per year, and is also involved in other space agencies. It just put £1.84 billion in the ESA this past November. Though investment by Britain or India, when measured against poverty, is a nonsense. All these international agencies make for vast profits, benefits and innovations compared to the relatively paltry financing, and are always a wise investment for any developed or developing country. Myriad jobs and industries rely on them nowadays. It is estimated that over £360 billion (about 17%) of the UK’s non-financial business GDP per year is dependent on satellites alone, and that the negative financial impact of the UK losing access to global navigation systems could be as high as £5.2 billion for a five day disruption. ISRO's programs play a significant role in the socio-economic development of India and have supported both civilian and military domains in various aspects including disaster management, telemedicine and navigation and reconnaissance missions over the past 15 years. ISRO's spin-off technologies also have founded many crucial innovations for India's engineering and medical industries. At present its budget as a percentage of Indian GDP is about 0.05%. It also, just like and together with the Brits, cooperates regularly with most other space programs around the world. It has launched plenty of UK Satellites over the years, for profit.
There are arguments to make for returning the Koh-i-Noor to one of it's previous countries but it is worth noting that in it's long history of being looted through conquest none of the previous owners in the Indian subcontinent ever returned it to a previous owner. Seems a bit rich that previous owners would be demanding something to be done now that they themselves never did in the past in their thousands of years of opportunities. For the Koh-i-Noor to be returned to a previous owner would be something that would be unprecedented in it's history. I'm not saying that it shouldn't happen I'm just saying that it should, at least, be acknowledged. "Loot" is an Indian word. (History and Etymology - Noun and Verb - Hindi & Urdu lūṭ; akin to Sanskrit luṇṭati he plunders)
@@lyndoncmp5751 The rulers were ruling India and the wealth was within India it wasn't flowing to UK.. Britishers will remain robbers and will make excuses till the day they die
@why bother tho? Pakistan wasn't there during British Raj!! Britishers divided the country named Hindustan and the kohinoor was mined from Andhra pradesh it belongs to India Just clear up your facts
@@lyndoncmp5751 lol!! Read history first not British fake history where you give reward to Winston churchil mate for humanity who killed millions/billions of Indian in Jallianwla bagh masscare and bengal femaine and these fake history readers trying to show me that belongs to Afghanistan... It was mined from Andhra pradesh just go and Google it and the king was ruling in India...
It is just soo shameful that colonisation is still defended. Obviously , it belongs to India , it was from Indian soil and Pakistan was India. Therefore, it belongs to India, which was invaded soo many times and not just by British. Why the colonisers are not answerable for their wrong doing. Having made my point, I live in present so we should have harmony but this next time when anyone say about the poverty, please go through history.
Say it were given back to India or Pakistan. Surely the diamond would end up in someone’s private collection within the decade, and would never be seen again. It is for this reason it should not and will not be returned at least not until that issue is resolved. However, one day it will be returned and a glorious day that will be 🇮🇳🇵🇰
A ( young ) noble paying tribute to their ruler or another more powerful noble for favors and similar influence etc. is highly common in all societies which have any such systems.
That is far less brutal than how the 'Indians' obtained it before that. Shah Shuja Durrani in Afghanistan was having his son being tortured and that's why he surrendered the diamond to the Maharajah of Lahore. It belongs to Afghanistan. The Indians stole it.
Not as bad as you might think and at the time a much less sever tactic compared to the myriad of owners assassinations that preceded. Remember this was a Treaty to end a war the Diamond was just a very fancy cherry and symbol of power transfer.
@@lyndoncmp5751 seriously? Indians obtained? It is mined from the southern part of India. Invaders stole that. Indians regained it the same way invaders did to Indians. Being british, the last invader clan . U guys are shamelessly spreading lies. It belongs to India.And one day. U guys lose the diamond too. Just like u guys lose Dublin. Till then live your colonial mindset.
Not only koh i Noor Almost all British museums filled with many indian articles, artifacts and antique stolen by Britishers during colonial era, atleast have courtesy to return them to their rightful owner. Australia, USA and Canada are in much better position when it comes to return stolen articles why not uk then ?
because if they did that.. firstly it would make them admit to their guilt.. secondly they would have to return everything they have stolen.. and thirdly it would render the UK worthless
Split the diamond in equal parts and give it back to the poor countries ... as an industrial cutting edge. that is the greatest added value of a diamond. Period.
What do you mean by poor countries that was a indian origin diamond which cost is approximately 200 to 300 billion dollars I hope that much money even your ancestors could afford
Seriously, it's ridiculously high demand then in many countries. It's not about quenching thrist of poor but we value our traditional property and ask them to give back. We should preserve them in our museum or somewhere inside India. They came and loot everything for their own utility. And end of the day, we Indians got all the blame of powerless and stupids for let them allowed in our country. If I open the book of late gov british officials, not even one day is enough to talk about their atrocities. It's their misfortune period now. Karma is a boomerang 🪃
Bengal famine,The Bengal famine stands as one of the single most horrific atrocities to have occurred under British colonial rule. From 1943 to 1944, more than three million Indians died of starvation and malnutrition, and millions more fell into crushing poverty.
Bengal famine was caused by natural events plus Indian corruption, and besides India has more than made up for those losses seeing as your population doubled TWICE in the space of half a century! Stop whining, and learn how to use condoms! Sigh.
@@SenorSol For your info, the Indian and Bengali(Bangladeshi )population doubled after their respective Independences and Economic growth and the respective Govts are Educating their respective population ON HOW TO USE A CONDOM so u don't need to teach it here.
@@homosapien2983 Not quite true at all. I researched the Indian census data from 1940 onwards, and between 1940-80 it doubled once, and between 1980-2011 it doubled again. So, that population growth started before independence and carried on unchecked until now. India's population is STILL growing, supposedly overtaking China by this year, and that's not a good thing. You're also wrong about respective governments teaching sexual reproductive health in anything like an organised or concerted way. Firstly, Bangladesh is ruled by a de facto dictator who is conservative and beholden to Islamists who hate women, so they have no agency over their own bodies at all, and likewise India under the Hindutva loonies is burdened with Victorian prudishness and shame at having to teach kids sex ed and with boring predictability the rates of teenage pregnancies and STIs are high. Facts, eh? How can you even begin the tackle the problem if people like you are in denial?
The first question to ask is where the name kohinoor originates. The second question you should ask is "what is the Orlov diamond" and compare the outrage related to kohiboor with total apathy to the Orlov - which WAS actually stolen from India
Why are the angry Indians not asking for the “Daria-i-Noor” back- another Indian diamond currently held in Iran. And this one is actually much larger and significantly rarer, being of the incredible pale pink colour.
U.K. can keep the diamond but it must get India a permanent seat on the UNSC with veto powers Indians fought in WWI and WWII against the axis India is the world’s largest democracy - help it gain influence
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg it would help curb Chinese influence and help fight against terrorism You’ve got 3 democracies (U.K., U.S., France), 1 electoral autocracy (Russia), and the world’s largest dictatorship (China) with veto powers
@@jambudvipi And the fact that It'd curb Chinese influence, means China will veto this. And we're not even discussing the UfC yet, who will veto such a notion too. The UNSC gaining new permanent seats won't happen any time soon.
If Britain returns all the items back to their countries of origin then their museums and palaces would be empty 😂😂
@Asphodelia Dworld would have made these discoveries sooner or later.
Giving it back to india is a bad idea, it doesn't belong to them it belongs to God, it has been stolen from God
@@asphodeliad1035 - yes. But your discoveries were not stolen from you. But the diamond is a possession. We're not stopping you from carving your own diamond in the Kohinoor's likeliness, we're simply saying, give us our diamond back
@@asphodeliad1035 well they did it whole world ... Indians they are the only people discovered everything,😂😂😂
No surprise build toilets first buddy
Look at Egypt Africans turned it into a dump. Least uk protecting heritage of world. Muslims Hindus and Africans just destroy it.
Imagine bullying a ten year old into giving you their stone after locking up his mother.
i call that theft.
That happens every day in India, and has done since independence.
@@sabin97 What do you call Adani, Mallya, Nirav Modi, and Subrata Roy ripping off the Indian people? And what do Indians call their endemically corrupt political class?
@@SenorSol
i dont call them. i just say "thank you, come again" in my best apu accent.
and back on topic. the english stole that stone. they should give it back.
you are aware those are different topics, right?
@@sabin97 They didn't steal it, it was surrendered after India was conquered. That's how things worked, and it also happened in other conquests by other empires. Time to get over it and stop sucking your thumb about the past.
The topics are linked, mainly because it shows up typical Indian hypocrisy and whataboutery. The same Indians who whine about the Kohinoor are the same Indians who say and do nothing about the endemic corruption within Indian society that helps to keep India backwards.
The amount of wealth looted from India is enormous, Nadir shah looted the whole throne, I have read that along with Kohinoor, that throne was decorated by many precious stones & gold .
Now, there's nothing we can do 🙂.
Funny, until I saw this, I've only ever seen Indians blame only the British for "stealing" when this video clearly shows that even before Britain was in India, other civilisations looted, raided and pillaged India. How ironic.
Guess Indians need to learn a bit more history..
45 trillion usd estimated
@@bravestone9987 So?
@@bravestone9987 The Vikings pillaged wealth, raped and murdered people when they came to England from Norway. They also enslaved the natives.
Tell me how that's any different? But you don't see British people complain about it do you, history is history. Cry me a river 🥱
@@arfgrogue5735 reperation or else face the consequences
Based on the stone's tradition, India would have to invade the UK and take it back. I think the fact the stone has been taken by the victor of conflicts for centuries to be fascinating. Whoever defeats England will own the diamond next, and so on till the end of time.
That's actually really interesting, I'd love to see a movie about something like this. World powers battle for control of the diamond
But now you’ll have to fight all of NATO 😞
British theives return the diamond and artifacts to India
@@abhinay4200 Why are the angry Indians not asking for the “Daria-i-Noor” back- another Indian diamond currently held in Iran. And this one is actually much larger and significantly rarer, being of the incredible pale pink colour.
@@Indigo280 we don't need to fight anyone , we already have Indian origin man as pm in uk , he will turn the things in favour of India .
You guys didn’t even mention that the diamond came from Deccan…
Maybe it should go to the descendent of the miner who first laid hands on the bloody thing. Or maybe it should ceremoniously be dropped into the sea or sold to the richest man in the world with the money sent to good causes. Bickering over which nation should hold it when neither Britain or India actually existed as legal entities when the diamond was found seems a bit small minded. Lets think outside the box people
@@LS-xs7sg whatever dude, british looted it.... It is a stolen property.. It so not belong in Britain!
The diamond belongs to Shri Krishna, that diamond is thousands and thousands of years old.
@@mangopudding5979 wow that's new please elaborate
@@eyeofthepyramid2596 Kohinoor Diamond's original name is Syamantaka which was a gift given to Shri Krishna by his wife Mata Rukmini's Father. That's not new, the fact is real history has been hidden from us.
as an Iranian I don't think Iran has any right over the jewel it was acquired through imperialism it would be no different than Englands claim to the jewel. since Pakistan used to be part of India I think they should return the jewel to the country which it was first discovered. what I mean by that is within the border of whichever country it was first discovered it should be returned to that country.
And that's Delhi
It's first' was in found in Indian mine ! Then it's donated to temple of andhrapradesh! And then a king looted that temple rest is history that curse continues its change its owner literally every decade or every century
Looter Britisher deliberately claim that looter Iranian afgani too can claim so they justify own claim. Cunning Britisher
Its was found in Golconda mines in Andhra pradesh
Pakistan was never a part of India. India did not exist as a country before 1947.
First of all the diamond itself was stolen from some temple in andhra Pradesh India by invaders then it passed among several Indian kingdoms then ultimately British stole it from a child ruler in Punjab .
@themastermind8847 Lol it was of Andhra Pradesh's temple when Hyderabad didn't even exist.
@The Master mind How Pakistan become successor to Mughal? You have no connection with Mughal other than being Muslim.
@The Master mind How? Kashmir kingdom joined India legally. Where is Pakistan in this other than sending illiterate tribes to loot Kashmir
@The Master mind That Nijam was representative of Mughals who are nothing but invaders. Diamond was found from India. So mughal has no right over it
@@vaimurthy ha ha his name only master mind …he is an utter fool…don’t know the history….don’t waste time on these kind of morons…..
It is believed that the diamond was first mentioned more than 5000 years ago in a Sanskrit script, where it was called the Syamantaka. It has a history, and it'll track back to its original owners in time.
@@ReverendSnedley i saw you making conspiracy of it being fake and stolen.
Ah, here comes the injection of mythology into fact. The Kohinoor cannot have been the shyamantaka
it's alleged and not proven as many mythological accounts describe Syamantaka as a Ruby, not a Diamond.
When it's time it will teleport back
That long ago..... 😳 Woooo 🤔 that would actually mean it probably originally was owned by Zoroastrians. There probably to smart to want to get involved in this though lol
The stone is not 'cursed' or anything like that. It's just a carbon crystal. It's the people who are at fault who fight over this object, not the stone itself.
If it’s just an object, then the British should return it
मैं एक पत्रकार हूं यह हमारा नया न्यूज़ प्लेटफार्म है आप सब के सहयोग की आवश्यकता है हम सत्य के साथ हैं ..🙏🙏👍
💯💯💯❣
@why bother tho? the government of India.
@@TheZachary86 If it's just an object, why does India care so much?
@@TheZachary86 Even Indian courts have ruled it belongs to the Crown.
There's nothing controversial about giving back what you have stolen.
@Why bother ur going to die.
Based and decolonisaton pilled.
There is because it's history mate. Literally, all of history is about stealing why does this matter more it's ridiculous should we ask Scandinavia to hand over everything they stole?
Britain got it as compensation from the last Ruler....You guys are salty about history....
@@Vladimirputin11111 in your dreams .
Kohinoor is our Telugu people's pride. It was first mined in kolluru mines, Andhra Pradesh during the rule of Kakatiyas Kings and fixed as left eye of goddess in Bhadrakali temple, Warangal, Telangana. As Warangal was capital of Kakatiyas.
India and especially Andra Pradesh
It's carbon mate
So is our body [CARBON] @@BlueCrashFigurineHoldingWumpa
History of ownership: The Koh-i-Noor diamond has a long and complex history of ownership. It was originally mined in India and was owned by various Indian rulers for centuries. However, it was later taken by the British East India Company and was eventually presented to Queen Victoria in 1850. Since then, it has been a part of the British Crown Jewels. Some people argue that the diamond was taken unfairly and should be returned to India.
A museum, maybe. But why should the tutti Queen of Thieves keep anything?
Obviously a 10 yr old boy who's mother was imprisoned and was defeated by the British what could've they done ask him politely give it to me or snatched the Kohinoor away from him.
It's no suspense that Kohinoor was taken by force, the gem that originated in India is a undetachable part of Indian history.
@@I_am_AmanSingh
Undetachable?
No offence but it seems fairly detached to me.
@@Arcaryon by undetachable part of INDIAN *HISTORY*, I think you should read carefully before opening your mouth.
If i ask you to complete 1 sentence or 2 about Kohinoor without taking name of India you'll sweat even framing the sentence. 😆
@@I_am_AmanSingh Sarcasm is not your forte :P ?
The Kohinoor is currently possession of the royal British family - it was consequently removed from its previous setting long before anyone who is alive today was even born. It has an obvious traditional symbolic value but it’s also symbol of the exact aristocracy that was subjugated as a result of its infighting.
An interesting piece without a doubt.
If it carries a curse, how come the Queen who wore it the most died of old age/natural causes?
Let’s have a debate when you return back from Arabian nights la la land
Britain who stole it has become a weak economy that’s not growing anymore
the cure is for male rulers
She did not wear it …l it was in the crown of the Queen mother…. And the curse was only on male owners not female
because curses are not a real thing.
like angels, or pixies, or talking snakes.
As an Anglo Indian, I don’t really care as I’m never going to have the diamond in my house 😂
@@nihalkumar3203 cry harder bro 😂
Yes,but the diamond should be in jagannath temple in odisha
All these lives for a „stone“! For money people do everything!! Shame on humans!!
Then give the F*ng stone back!! Live something off of your own for once. Instead of greedily looking at others plate like beggars, then go on to say the world how great your dynasty is. losers.
Its twinkly!
The is immortal while human lives not
Not shame on humans that should be "Shame on British robbers"
@why bother tho? British not only robbed rock they also robbed 45 trillion dollars they also robbed massacres like "Jallianwla bagh and bengal femaine" they also robbed millions of lives of Indian... They also robbed Indians area by saying," Dogs and Indian not allowed"... we Indian don't give free speech lmao why don't this BBC make some documentaries on massacres of Jallianwla bagh and bengal femaine?? When India was successful in mission Mars they made a video and do you know what they particularly said," Inspite of this much poverty hungry why this country is investing in space"... wowww... Videos are still available mate go and see
For your kind information there wasn't Pakistan, India was same there wasn't any partition you divided the country for your kind information and the king was ruling in India
The king is having cancer now no doubt the kohinoor curse is still working and United Kingdom is dieing slowly
Well none of those emperors who took it ever did return it to the previous owners after they had taken it. However, imperialism is imperialism and people should of course own up to its bad practices
We should all return to our own countries... is that what you are also suggesting?
@@airbender9593 what a shitty take. there is a difference between people choosing to immigrate or getting forced to immigrate due to successful destabilization efforts of western powers in other countries than theft.
@@TempoHack I did NOT choose a side. I am replying based on the comment.
Don’t worry it will return to india
@@AntimatterFF-jb5zw $
thank you, Palki Sharma, for making this possible !!!!!!
Who?
@chrisviking7807 but the first time bbc was forced to post a video about them confessing about british crimes and faults , as a result of her efforts .
Palki Sharma effect. The very first vantage she mentioned about it and BBC followed soon 🔥🔥
That comment makes no sense in English. Care to try again?
@SenorSol no... Improve your English.
@@jaggadakku1864 Err....my English is better than yours, you didn't even capitalise the beginning of a sentence! You muppet!
@@SenorSol 😂Take your English and flourish ma'am .. God save us from these grammer nazis cum (only going for English as a language and not even trying to interpret the context) . Hail MA'AM/SIR WREN plus consume little less of MARTINI.
@@jaggadakku1864 I don't drink. The only reason you're on here communicating with the world is because of the English language, it's now the lingua franca of the world, whether you like it or not, and all you have to say is 'thank you'.
And grammatically, it's "consume a little less martinis". No need for the 'of', and no need to capitalise the word martini unless it's at the beginning of a sentence or is a person's name. Right, English 101 class is over. And.....you're welcome!
Taking something that does not belong to you for whatever reasoning is still stealing.
So who really owns it then? Is it the person who originally found the diamond?
@@warmedpuma2024 It certainly does not belong to the British!
@@warmedpuma2024 shut up
@@GKP999 It belongs to whoever is strong enough to keep it. That's the point.
@@GKP999 After some time when london will belong to terrorist, you can tell the same thing to brits.
If we forget for one moment about the disputed ownership of the diamond itself , does anybody in their right minds think that the British Monarchy would break apart the crown to give this diamond to another nation
Nope. Never heard of thieves returning stuff.
Right. It will never happen until we abolish the monarchy, which will not be for many decades most likely, and probably not for a good while even after that.
@@nid-jk2vx
India was too weak to even protect It's goods...!!
India sold it... Don't cry
@@Vladimirputin11111 British stole it
UK King's Monarchy like Indian Kings is obsolete. It will eventually auction everything and become a nice hotel
Atleast Nadir Shah invaded India to loot it.. not like an evil person who took it from 10 year old by capturing his mother 😂😂😂
It's ours 🙏🇮🇳❤️
No, it’s not.
@@boarbot7829 it was extracted from mine of Indian in Godwana
@@boarbot7829 okay then tell the reason why it's not?
@@princejaat007. you literally signed it away in a treaty. The thing is, there’s no actual need for the diamond, but this just comes out of a hateful, salty sentiment. Most of “your” diamonds are in Iran, but you don’t make nearly as big a fuss about those.
@@boarbot7829 Diamonds like in Iran we don't need them we still have more like them but we need back our finest diamond that was stolen from us. And also tell me from where are you man?
It isn't controversial, it was stolen from India, it needs to be returned to the rightful owners.
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I mean... When you conqure a place and become its owner... Goods and riches of that place becomes yours... Kinda... Not that i think its a good thing to do
Wasn't it stolen from Iran?
there was no India before the British came along
It wasn’t stolen at all
2:02 '...and all these dynasties remarked on its resplendent beauty and sheer size, its scale. they all coalesced around one vision which was it was a simply beautiful piece of jewelry and an incredible natural resource.' sounds fabricated for today's minds to suit a certain narrative. fact is, the diamond was cut so lacklustre that it failed to impress viewers at the Great Exhibition in London back in 1851. only after prince Albert commissioned a re-cut and it got the form we know it in today did the stone start to garner wider interest.
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Exactly. That is a very important part of its history. Not to mention that it wasn’t as famous before, but also that has re-cut from the original diamond it was hundreds of years ago. It’s not te same anymore to the one once in what we today call India.
0:16
So, why was an ugly diamond taken and given to the crown!
This argument fails to address Kohinoor was the largest diamond that time. It is still among the largest. Value is for the size, not shine. e.g. A 5 carat diamond is multiple times more valuable than five one carat diamonds.
Who's building narratives to keep their minds in peace?
Isn't the Monalisa painting considered ugly by half of the world? But is it any less valuable? Its importance is attached to its painter, the context behind its creation ,the controversies surrounding and the mysteries created by the people around it. The picture is history.
By your logic one must put blush, contour, liner etc on the face to make it more aesthetically pleasing for people like you
In 2018, at the Supreme Court of India the Archeological Survey of India clarified that the diamond was surrendered to the British and "it (the diamond) was neither stolen nor forcibly taken away".
Imagine using a mother's suffering to force her 10-year-old child to give you what doesn't belong to you..
colonisers do be like that.
I would destroy the entire United Kingdom if it benefited me. What's your point?
Well done Palki Sharma 😂😂
let me solve this... give me the diamond. i will be a middle man...
Haha. Nice try🤣
😂
It's dumb to argue over diamonds now. Synthetic diamonds are better and cheaper. Just make one.
There are more beautiful and costlier ones, like the blue diamond that holds the record for the most valuable price per carat at $3.93 million.
@@solapowsj25 natural diamonds will never be as good as lab diamonds. Lab diamonds are perfect on a molecular level. Natural diamonds are costlier and more imperfect and they cost more. It's a waste at this point.
It isn't controversial. Indian courts ruled it's rightfully British property.
Not true, why lie? It’s stolen from India, how can it be Britain’s?
The diamond belonged to my grandfather's grandfather. I WANT BACK.
@@geoms6263 yo Momma needs a big schlong
It belongs in a museum “Indiana Jones” A BRITISH MUSEUM!
Yes but the BBC will never miss an opportunity to put down Britain. Cancel your TV licence like hundreds of thousands of Brits have
Why is all the media silent about the East Palestine enviromental disaster?!
What is "Palestine"? 😅
Politicians are never at loss. It's always the common citizen who's at the receiving end of all the travesty of all the events. They'd enjoy the wealth taken away from those people and then people will forget all of this and choose them again for their next election
It isn't. The Indian government has said multiple times that it doesn't dispute the Koh-i-Noor.
The only people offended by it are the kind of people who look for things to be offended about.
@Pierre In It wasn't looted though. India thrived in the Empire, the narrative that it was oppressed was manufactured by Nazi-collaborating Japanese Empire-collaborating Indian nationalists that wanted the extermination of Muslims in their lands. Peace was only maintained as long as Britain prevented the two populations from slaughtering each other.
Something that Indian nationalists and western activists often quote is India's sharp decline as a % of world GDP under British rule, but that is misleading. The Indian economy remained strong, it just went down as a percentage because the industrial revolution meant that western Europe exploded in productivity. Indian handcraft was overtaken by machine power, but the actual output of India wasn't changed.
Money flowed from Britain into India, not the other way around. Consider: if the UK was exploiting India for riches, why would they give India up so willingly after WW2 had drained British wealth? Because it was too expensive to maintain. If the UK were actually the tyrannical overlords of popular imagination, why would they give up a source of income so eagerly? It was a drain, not a fountain.
@@TheAtlasReview finally someone who isnt just anti-british for no modern reason
@@TheAtlasReview you seriously in your right mind say India thrived under the British rule,the only reason I may thank Britain is for seperating major of the extremist muslim population away from India(still sucks to have them in 200 million "minority" community); stealing so much resources and instilling exorbitant tax on the Indian population; you must one of the fools who think India could not have developed railways without Britain.Britain is in decline like many other old strong civilizations,noone gives a shit anymore about Britain because now it's just a tiny island with no other dominance other than being the origin of Harry Potter books or having some stupid banks in London, USA,India and china kicking Britain so deep into oblivion,it will end up like greece(a middle class European country).
@@alienware2149 Located an angry loo pooer. India could not have built railways without Britain. India can't even build railways *now* lol.
I'm sorry for Britain uniting your country from the thousands of petty princedoms it was when we found it.
I'm sorry for preventing you savages from committing genocide against each other.
I'm sorry for giving you the water that your corrupt government can't.
I'm sorry for giving you all free vaccines.
I'm sorry for saving you from the Japanese Empire.
I'm sorry for trying to end your ridiculous caste system.
I'm sorry for all the technology, education, medicine and justice that your backwards civilisation has already forgotten.
But most of all, I'm sorry you never learned how to use a toilet.
@@TheAtlasReview Very true! Best comment of this thread!!!
Kohinoor was found in Golkunda (current Andhra pradesh state of India ). Kohinoor belongs to India. Period.
@@whtfl country of origin india
@@whtfl Bharat existed before 1947 got it we are one of the oldest civilization.
@@whtfl shutup
It belongs to india
Kohinoor originated from India 🇮🇳
Where is golkunda now ???
-pakistan, bangladesh, Uzbekistan??????
Answer -india
There is no iran at that time
The First dynasty to own this Kohinoor was Kartikaya Dynasty of South India after that it passed on to Khilji dynasty of Turkic origen then it passed to Tuglak dynasty.
Why is it suddenly illegitimate for the British to own the diamond when it’s history of ownership has ALWAYS been marred by conquest and violence.
Throughout its history it has always been claimed by right of conquest why is it suddenly not the same when it’s the British who own it?
Seems like a double standard. And it’s rather presumptive of Indians to think that the diamond is automatically their possession. Why not the descendants of Duleep Singh? Or Pakistan since Lahore,the seat of the Sikh empire, was where the diamond was taken from? Or Afghanistan or Iran?
Ok then England should pay like 15 trillion dollars of reparations to India for the centuries of plundering and prevention of growth. Deal?
@@rohanthandi4903 🤡🤡💩🚽💩🚽
@@rohanthandi4903
Why should England have to pay reparations? It’s history. Should Iran have to pay India back trillions of dollars because Nader Shah looted the Delhi treasury in 1738?
Should Spain have to pay back Mexico for the fall of tenochitalan in 1531?
Should Italy have to pay reparations to Turkey for the 1204 sack of Constantinople?
Of course not. It’s just the course of history. It just so happens that the British occupation of India occurred closer to modern history. I’m not saying that the British were right in their occupation but why is it suddenly not okay when it’s been okay for thousands of years. Reparations are stupid.
@@henrylivingstone2971 none of the events you listed are remotely similar. Way to justify your crimes by just claiming it’s just a part of history 🤣 of course reparations are impossible but notice how butt hurt you got just at the thought of it. The British raj existed until 1946. It’s not some ancient history as you claim. I can’t imagine the mental gymnastics that goes on in your head to justify such a long and brutal occupation as being a natural part of history.
If the French had conquered England in 1815 and destroyed the educational system, stripped all the resources, plundered the treasury and prevented any growth and setup a closed economy where England was forced to buy goods made with its own materials then permanently occupied the country while making sure the population was destitute and lacked any means of self determination would you accept that as a natural part of history? Would you get angry defending the actions of the French as a completely justified part of history in this scenario as you are with England?
@@phil5186 shut up Phil are you even literate? Is that how people speak in America?
British Museum = Chor Bazaar
RANJIT SINGH DIED 1839 NOT 1849 !!!...that's when the Kingdom was ANNEXED
The law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another..
We can relate this to "power"
In politics
The part starting at @3:11 is so disheartening for an India...."The land which was rich with civilization, rich with wealth and admired, over the years that land has been dismemberment, had lot of it's wealth siphoned off to Better and uplift other civilization across the globe, what is left is land which is splinter and divide amounts itself"
And what about the part where India has been independent for 75 years now and has suffered from bad governance and endemic corruption for all of that time and yet continues to blame the Brits for everything?
@@SenorSol first of all get your vocabulary straight......it's not called blaming.....it's called spitting FACTS....
2nd of all...... India has surpassed British economy to become 5th biggest economy in the world......that too after 200 years of British exploit of India
@@rahulbhure2589 No, it's called blaming, it's called whataboutery, and it's called typical Indian hypocrisy and victimhood mentality.
It doesn't matter that India's economy has surpassed the UK economy, that money doesn't trickle down to the man in the street, most of India's wealth is controlled by the top 1%, most Indians don't pay income tax which is why you have crap services, and your infrastructure is still very poor, especially compared to China.
The FACTS are that India has been independent for 75 years now, you've had nothing but bad governance for all of that time, and endemic corruption, and India continues to get it's priorities wrong with loony and backwards Hindutva that prioritises useless giant statues and silly Ram temples over high-speed rail, water desalination plants, and employment for India's teeming youth!
You're in denial.
How does India lay claim to the diamond when it’s only been a country since 1947? Ridiculous.
Out of all the arguments, this might be the stupidest. This is like saying India as a culture and people started existing in 1947.
@@mishaf19 Perhaps that’s you don’t understand what being a country means?
Like the Mughal empire wasn't brutal in it's clinging to power... LOL
spot on assertion
Yes but you can’t compare it brits who stole the wealth out of the country whilst Mughals lived there and made it prosperous!
The mughals wanted to rule the British wanted to use india the difference is you don't see india as yours you see it as a separate entity that was just there to be exploited
Classic whatabout-ism
hindus kill people for eating beef
This diamond was stolen from a Hindu temple and this diamond originated from Andhra Pradesh, India.
An Indian-origin Brit explaining the history of this diamond in his british accent is so ironic.
Return it to its soil Andhra Pradesh.
So many diamonds leave their original home. The African continent has an entire industry around mining diamonds and exporting them to the West. This has always happened around the world. In an ideal world the Kohi Noor would return home to India but we are not living in an ideal world. The UK will never willingly give up the diamond. The Royal Family is obsessed with money however so if India offered them a few billion pounds, I'm sure they'd sell.
nah it ain't about the money , its about their pride of ruling India .
@chrisviking7807 Criticising the monarchy for loving wealth isn't anti-British so pipe down
Why would India has to pay to take back its own diamond? Britain has to return all its loot if has any shame left!
@@KiriAatam To the victor goes the spoils I'm afraid. Maybe India should have fought harder to keep the Brits out.
@@kashattack But, the Brits never fought fair. Had they fought fair, a tiny UK could not have ruled over a colossal behemoth called India! Times are changing now, UK would become irrelevant to India in the years ahead! BTW, this diamond was plucked out from a child ruler of India by the Brits. So much for fairness!
India be like : we are preparing to invade the UK
How bbc makes India all about Mughals, Islam and Taj Mahal, lol
never ever again call a Persian king, a Stealer
the original Muslim rulers of India until the British came along
This is beyond inaccurate the East India Company never imprisoned anyone's mother, in fact the diamond was a reward for her rescue and seventeen men died that were employed in the presidency armies that were the armies of the three presidencies of the East India Company's rule in India, later the forces of the British Crown in India, composed primarily of Indian sepoys. The presidency armies were named after the presidencies: the Bengal Army, the Madras Army and the Bombay Army. All of these records still exist, why twist the truth about it now!!!!!!Ranjit Singh was taken ill, and he died at Lahore in June 1839-almost exactly 40 years after he entered the city as a conqueror. In little more than six years after his death, the Sikh state he had created collapsed because of the internecine strife of rival chiefs. Who really did kidnap the queen and threaten his heir. Had they got the diamond it would have been sold for weapons and further bloodshed. Dalip Singh, the prince was given a generous annual pension, he became a Christian and chose to live in England, where he was well received in society. He gifted this diamond, and it was his to gift, so telling lies to get it back into greedy hands is wrong.
India today cuts 90% of world diamonds in Surat alone.
Nader was not a Persian king.he was king of afshar and afshars was Turkish family.
He was the king of Persia.
Need Ranjit Singh’s golden throne as well
Ask Adani for it!
@@SenorSol ask rishi for it 👁️👄👁️
@@Shreyansh_p It's not Rishi's to give back! It belongs to the British state! Besides, he'll be kicked out of office within the next 13 months!
I'll have that. I would look absolutely amazing sat in a throne 🙂
It was given in a peace treaty completely legally, the UK is it’s rightful owner
NOPE
Study history first don't come for shit here
It was stolen from a under age 🙄 boy ! Whome they separated from his mom for his whole life! So yeah ! Legally lol what a joke ! U MF's that kids soul will never let u guys rise again ! Never even let him his mom once !
Blahh with child looter shameless Britisher singing treaty with child.
@Pierre In It was perfectly legal back in the 1849 yes - also Duleep Singh was in fact 11, but his regent was Gulab Singh who was 57 at the time. I'd consider doing research before being so outspoken on a topic.
If the Indian Goverment do not want the diamond back, then they are certainly not having it back.
You must be the most gullible person if you think the British would ever allow any assets to be “returned” No matter what happened in the past, it’s currently in the possession of the UK
Just wait and watch!
Wait and watch what Britisher you father too returns stolen Jewellery item from India. Just wait.
It was a stolen diamond. They don't own it, it can be snatched. Snatched the same way they stole money and resources from other countries. Britain is not much powerful now anyway
@@polarbear7 We're waiting and watching. So far.....nothing.
@@SenorSol haha u will only watch !
The fact is it most probably would be lost now if it had not ended up in the Crown Jewels. India hasvsufered horrific assaults, not just from the British. But it is their property, so give it back.
Look, what Indian people need to know is that the late Queen Elizabeth II never in her life wore Kohinoor. Her mother wore it, apparently even her name was also Elizabeth, but she was not a queen in her own right, she was a consort to the king. A queen consort, not a 'monarch'. Only children born to a ruling King or Queen can be called as future heir to the throne.
Last time it was in Lahore Fort , where it was taken from Ranjeet Singh son , it's said who ever wears it his days are numbered from Mughals to Nadir Shah to Afghans to Sikhs to Victoria
Didn't harm either Queen Victoria nor Queen Elizabeth, both died of old age! So much for silly Indian superstitions, eh?
Spectacular illustration
@SEEK THE TRUTH! Islam peaceful you must be joking.
The decision against the Queen consort wearing the Kohinoor diamond, worn by Queen Mary in 1911 and the queen mother in 1937, comes amid rumblings about the jewel.
The Kohinoor is among the largest cut diamonds in the world, worth $591 million, and has a long history with the royal family, having been worn on crowns by generations of queens.
It is believed the diamond was taken from India by the East India Company during the colonial era and presented to Queen Victoria in 1850.
The precious diamond has been fought over for centuries, so much so that British royal legend says the diamond will bring bad luck to any man who wears it.
It currently is set in a crown last worn by Charles's grandmother during her coronation alongside King George VI in 1937.
The diamond India wants the royal family to return
The world's most expensive diamond, the "Kohinoor" is set in the crown made for the Queen Mother. With the passing of Queen Elizabeth II, Indians are asking for its return.

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That the diamond remains in the possession of the British royals is, according to the Indian government, a mark of continuing colonialism more than 75 years after India declared independence from British rule.
Since 2000, India's government has repeatedly requested Britain return the Kohinoor.
The royal family claims the diamond is its property, though it acknowledges it "probably" originated in India.
Following the death of Queen Elizabeth last year, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi warned that any plans for the Queen Consort to wear the Kohinoor at the coronation would bring back "painful memories of the colonial past".
As is tradition, King Charles will wear St Edward's Crown, which has now returned to public display at the Tower of London following the completion of minor modification work.
Since independent indian government is trying to get it back
It was NOT stolen by the British
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It was given as compensation.
It had previously been owned by a number of rulers before then. Several countries lay claim to it, but it was GIVEN to Britain by the last owner as compensation. Therefore it does belong to Britain. Know that.
@@angr3819 it was literally snatched from a minor kid. Law written by British for British by British.
@@angr3819 🤣🤣🤣
Fool British
@@godblessbharat708 On April 17th 2016 India’s solicitor-general Ranjit Kuma told the Indian Supreme Court that in the opinion of the Indian government, the Kohinoor diamond had not been forcibly taken but was a gift from the successors of Maharaja Ranjit Singh to East India Company in 1849 as compensation for helping them in the Sikh wars.
Give the diamond back and apologize for all the damage done
How nice bbc decide to start the origin from the mughal. They forgot to mention the origin before that.
Read Anita Anand's book, it's far better researched than your opinion.
@@SenorSol no thanks for ur opinion
@@vdobb99 Not my opinion, it's Anita Anand's well-researched book. You obviously don't want to know the truth.
@@SenorSol keep ur recommendations urself. Lol truth
@@SenorSol 😂🤣 so u want him to read a book written by a British National who graduated from the King's College after studying WHITE WASHED HISTORY of British Empire...😂
I like the idea of the Koh-i-Noor diamond heading back to India,
but it wasn't other empires that fractured India:
rather they (unethically) exploited fractures that were already there.
I would LOVE to see a strong, healthy, vibrant India--made whole through cooperation, rather than force.
It is that strength, through healthy nourishing internal cooperation--more than anything else--that will call the Koh-i-Noor home.
I like the idea of the indian and pakistani immigrants heading back to India, especially rishi sunak
@@noimnotarobotcanubeleiveit7024 That is exactly the kind of deepening of fractures that led to the loss of the diamond in the first place.
@@noimnotarobotcanubeleiveit7024 I would also like britisher to head back to England and leave Scotland, whales and N ireland
You guys can start with developing working toilets, and the removal of the (still in place) caste system, that treats dark skinned Indians as literal shit. Also Cow Urine and Cow Dung aren't cures FFS.
@Chris Viking Perhaps India as a rich civilisation goes several 1000 years back when Britain was in the dark ages!
1. If England is so bad, the memories are so painful, whys everyone there.
2. If traumatic to the magnitude that is claimed... I really would not want to be anywhere near....
What does that have to do anything with politics and history? So many Chinese in USA, so many americans in China for instance. Ur just dumb ma'e
BBC ne Dil pe le liya -- firstpost
When Westerners came to trade they had nothing to barter and Indians demanded gold which became the default standard currency. Major chunk was locally mined which Islamic & British plundered.India was only source of diamonds till mid 19th century later mining started in SAfrica
So basically the onus is on India to forget the "trauma" of colonial history while Britishers can keep the stolen treasures?
Are there any morals left?
Muslims should return "Pakistan" to India, too. Arab should return to Arabia.
Tell me this ?, Why are there so many poor people in India but yet they have a Space Program ???
First take care of your economy which is struggling
Im going to use their favourite word to answer this - hyoocrites
Same as Britain
@@Elephantstonica Oh yah Britain Space Program is so big.
@@jamesreid8523
You didn’t mention size.
But, the UKSA invests currently £469 million per year, and is also involved in other space agencies. It just put £1.84 billion in the ESA this past November.
Though investment by Britain or India, when measured against poverty, is a nonsense. All these international agencies make for vast profits, benefits and innovations compared to the relatively paltry financing, and are always a wise investment for any developed or developing country. Myriad jobs and industries rely on them nowadays. It is estimated that over £360 billion (about 17%) of the UK’s non-financial business GDP per year is dependent on satellites alone, and that the negative financial impact of the UK losing access to global navigation systems could be as high as £5.2 billion for a five day disruption.
ISRO's programs play a significant role in the socio-economic development of India and have supported both civilian and military domains in various aspects including disaster management, telemedicine and navigation and reconnaissance missions over the past 15 years. ISRO's spin-off technologies also have founded many crucial innovations for India's engineering and medical industries. At present its budget as a percentage of Indian GDP is about 0.05%. It also, just like and together with the Brits, cooperates regularly with most other space programs around the world. It has launched plenty of UK Satellites over the years, for profit.
There are arguments to make for returning the Koh-i-Noor to one of it's previous countries but it is worth noting that in it's long history of being looted through conquest none of the previous owners in the Indian subcontinent ever returned it to a previous owner. Seems a bit rich that previous owners would be demanding something to be done now that they themselves never did in the past in their thousands of years of opportunities. For the Koh-i-Noor to be returned to a previous owner would be something that would be unprecedented in it's history. I'm not saying that it shouldn't happen I'm just saying that it should, at least, be acknowledged.
"Loot" is an Indian word. (History and Etymology - Noun and Verb - Hindi & Urdu lūṭ; akin to Sanskrit luṇṭati he plunders)
I say the British should give it to Afghanistan just to annoy the Indians. That's where it supposedly came from until the Indians stole it.
@@lyndoncmp5751 The rulers were ruling India and the wealth was within India it wasn't flowing to UK.. Britishers will remain robbers and will make excuses till the day they die
@why bother tho? Pakistan wasn't there during British Raj!! Britishers divided the country named Hindustan and the kohinoor was mined from Andhra pradesh it belongs to India
Just clear up your facts
Razz granger,
It was reputedly stolen from what is now Afghanistan, so they have more right to it than Indians. Please, don't be hypocritical.
@@lyndoncmp5751 lol!! Read history first not British fake history where you give reward to Winston churchil mate for humanity who killed millions/billions of Indian in Jallianwla bagh masscare and bengal femaine and these fake history readers trying to show me that belongs to Afghanistan... It was mined from Andhra pradesh just go and Google it and the king was ruling in India...
It is now in Britain's possession.India should get over it
Never ever
It is just soo shameful that colonisation is still defended. Obviously , it belongs to India , it was from Indian soil and Pakistan was India. Therefore, it belongs to India, which was invaded soo many times and not just by British. Why the colonisers are not answerable for their wrong doing. Having made my point, I live in present so we should have harmony but this next time when anyone say about the poverty, please go through history.
It's 'obviously' not obvious when the Indian Supreme Court itself ruled that it wasn't stolen, but legally surrendered as part of peace negotiations.
Say it were given back to India or Pakistan. Surely the diamond would end up in someone’s private collection within the decade, and would never be seen again. It is for this reason it should not and will not be returned at least not until that issue is resolved. However, one day it will be returned and a glorious day that will be 🇮🇳🇵🇰
So he’s saying it wasn’t stolen, it was handed over by a 10 year old. Great.
oooo
A ( young ) noble paying tribute to their ruler or another more powerful noble for favors and similar influence etc. is highly common in all societies which have any such systems.
Can we return Rishi Sunak and co while we’re at it 🤣🤣🤣
Sunak was from what is today called Pakistan. Pakistan is a Sunni Muslim country. Sunak is Hindu. That won't digest well. LoL!.
@@mysticcove3392 he means to India ofcourse
Karma. That's the price you have to pay.
Now suffer the Rishi 😂
@@Tsug2803 But Sunak was from Pakistan. That's their Motherland.
@@mysticcove3392 there was no Pakistan then, it was all india, all Hindus call india their home. Even Rishi has said so.
It hurts so much when people blame the Queen because of misunderstandings and misinformation
In fact this diamond belongs to Babur who is grandson of Amir Temur. This one was gifted to Babur by Indian Roja.
Oh no we don't want the cursed thing back..
Do you know that kooh i noor
Is a Persian expression
That means"Mountain of Light"
Was it mentioned?
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Looted by nadir shah from India??
@@Nehas949
No Nadir Shah defeated Hindustan
@@DrStrange234 nadir shah looters plunder he defeated mughal😂😂😂like Britisher was looter he was too.
@@DrStrange234 Nadir Shah and their current country can lick our asses now.
@@Nehas949 didi its waste of time to argue with them.
Yeeeah. Definitely time to cancel my TV licence like all my mates have
years ahead of you, stand by for the threatening letters
@@graveperil2169 ??
Cor blimey! Jailed the mother to get the diamond from her ten year old kid ?..that’s criminal 😢
That is far less brutal than how the 'Indians' obtained it before that.
Shah Shuja Durrani in Afghanistan was having his son being tortured and that's why he surrendered the diamond to the Maharajah of Lahore.
It belongs to Afghanistan. The Indians stole it.
Not as bad as you might think and at the time a much less sever tactic compared to the myriad of owners assassinations that preceded. Remember this was a Treaty to end a war the Diamond was just a very fancy cherry and symbol of power transfer.
@@lyndoncmp5751 seriously? Indians obtained? It is mined from the southern part of India. Invaders stole that. Indians regained it the same way invaders did to Indians. Being british, the last invader clan . U guys are shamelessly spreading lies. It belongs to India.And one day. U guys lose the diamond too. Just like u guys lose Dublin. Till then live your colonial mindset.
and they also separated them Dulep was sent to England and never returned to Punjab until his mother told him the truth of his origin.
To be honest they can keep the diamonds, pearls, emeralds and precious jewels we've got better things to do than worry about precious stones.
lol come get it back 😂
Not only koh i Noor
Almost all British museums filled with many indian articles, artifacts and antique stolen by Britishers during colonial era, atleast have courtesy to return them to their rightful owner. Australia, USA and Canada are in much better position when it comes to return stolen articles why not uk then ?
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because if they did that.. firstly it would make them admit to their guilt.. secondly they would have to return everything they have stolen.. and thirdly it would render the UK worthless
Don't forget Burma. Many precious items from Burma are in the British museum and also as royal jewellery.
Yea Persian took it from Indians then Britain took it from iran
not just museum also stately homes of the aristocrats of Britains. Can't be return to India as its a different country to what it was
tbh it should be mine
I agree, hamburger yum yum
@SEEK THE TRUTH! According to the Holy Bible, you'll end up in hell where you deserve to be
Split the diamond in equal parts and give it back to the poor countries ... as an industrial cutting edge. that is the greatest added value of a diamond. Period.
What do you mean by poor countries that was a indian origin diamond which cost is approximately 200 to 300 billion dollars I hope that much money even your ancestors could afford
THE COUNTRIES ARE NOT POOR; 🇬🇧 have their rich things.
Seriously, it's ridiculously high demand then in many countries. It's not about quenching thrist of poor but we value our traditional property and ask them to give back. We should preserve them in our museum or somewhere inside India. They came and loot everything for their own utility. And end of the day, we Indians got all the blame of powerless and stupids for let them allowed in our country. If I open the book of late gov british officials, not even one day is enough to talk about their atrocities. It's their misfortune period now. Karma is a boomerang 🪃
Let the UK keep it .If returned to India it will be sold to Ambani or Adani.
And who r u
Bengal famine,The Bengal famine stands as one of the single most horrific atrocities to have occurred under British colonial rule. From 1943 to 1944, more than three million Indians died of starvation and malnutrition, and millions more fell into crushing poverty.
Bengal famine was caused by natural events plus Indian corruption, and besides India has more than made up for those losses seeing as your population doubled TWICE in the space of half a century! Stop whining, and learn how to use condoms! Sigh.
@@SenorSol For your info, the Indian and Bengali(Bangladeshi )population doubled after their respective Independences and Economic growth and the respective Govts are Educating their respective population ON HOW TO USE A CONDOM so u don't need to teach it here.
@@homosapien2983 Not quite true at all. I researched the Indian census data from 1940 onwards, and between 1940-80 it doubled once, and between 1980-2011 it doubled again. So, that population growth started before independence and carried on unchecked until now. India's population is STILL growing, supposedly overtaking China by this year, and that's not a good thing.
You're also wrong about respective governments teaching sexual reproductive health in anything like an organised or concerted way. Firstly, Bangladesh is ruled by a de facto dictator who is conservative and beholden to Islamists who hate women, so they have no agency over their own bodies at all, and likewise India under the Hindutva loonies is burdened with Victorian prudishness and shame at having to teach kids sex ed and with boring predictability the rates of teenage pregnancies and STIs are high. Facts, eh?
How can you even begin the tackle the problem if people like you are in denial?
The stone was won by conquest.
lol. U mean deception.
ohh really
Throw the useless stone into deep ocean
We don't want real life taken for a white stone of no value
Human life is more important than stone
That stone is going to stay in the Uk I don't think Charles will hand it over
Then we can change charles. Uk is not same anymore. They're losing the race.
ofc why will king charles will even return ...
@@handduckling he will. World order is reordering.
Camila has realized that wearing Kohinoor which was taken from India is like wearing Elizabeth’s underwear 😂😂😂😂😂
The first question to ask is where the name kohinoor originates.
The second question you should ask is "what is the Orlov diamond" and compare the outrage related to kohiboor with total apathy to the Orlov - which WAS actually stolen from India
Why are the angry Indians not asking for the “Daria-i-Noor” back- another Indian diamond currently held in Iran. And this one is actually much larger and significantly rarer, being of the incredible pale pink colour.
Iran is necessary for India's much bigger ambition. Moreover Illuminati has its own plans in Iran
We want everything which white racist murderers Britishers tooks from us!
That's diamond belongs to my state & country - Andhra Pradesh & india 🇮🇳
U.K. can keep the diamond but it must get India a permanent seat on the UNSC with veto powers
Indians fought in WWI and WWII against the axis
India is the world’s largest democracy - help it gain influence
The world largest democracy supporting Russia.
I can't truly see why people wouldn't want India to have a permanent seat. 🙃
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg it would help curb Chinese influence and help fight against terrorism
You’ve got 3 democracies (U.K., U.S., France), 1 electoral autocracy (Russia), and the world’s largest dictatorship (China) with veto powers
Right Wing Nationalist Religious Regime more like it
@@cdean2789 Muslim hiding behind western name
@@jambudvipi
And the fact that It'd curb Chinese influence, means China will veto this.
And we're not even discussing the UfC yet, who will veto such a notion too.
The UNSC gaining new permanent seats won't happen any time soon.
A diamond without royalty; to adorn.
England owns this fair and square, it certainly wouldnt still be in india now anyway.
"fair and square" = colonialism
@@bonapetits spioils of war. That was “fair” back then I’m afraid. You don’t participate in a war, lose, and then ask for peace for free buddy.
Tf u mean fair and square
As a indian,plz don't return..this politicians will sale this for money..they will do. Anything for money