Great video man. I learned a lot from both sides, because I’m not familiar with GOH scaling. But dang the Saiyan saga is even more crazy than I thought.
Great video but as someone who watched your old videos, you seem like a really nice guy who has been through a lot. This may seem like an odd comment but I do think your channel is quite cool and that you're a great person.
I… was not ready for “Star to Solar System level Saiyan Saga” via all that (plus the Supernova statement). I already knew they casually got to Large Planet, but never THIS powerful. Also the “power resists hax” is still a debate, so I can see many interpretations for this. I think I generally agree with the outcome of the vid tho, but still. Supernova level Saiyan Saga Vegeta holy crap..
Yeah, people love to sleep on Saiyan saga characters, hell, I can get them Vegeta and King Piccolo with some other statements in multi solar system+ and above
@@MrCraftyScales no, he literally took time to travel within the otherworld, and traveled distance meaning both space and time are present. also if time wasn't present and Goku was still able to move he could have trained for more than an infinite amount of years.
You know, if you use anime and power scaling, you can close the speed gap and even surpass Jin for the Ozaru Form of Vegeta and Nappa if they scale to Goku on the trip to Namek and arrival on Namek
Yo Crafty, remember me? Well whatever doesn't matter, I want to talk about if you need a video editor? Before dismissing me I would like if u watched my edits at least
How on earth was Final form Frieza unable to blow up namek? I don't care how dense namek is, if DB Roshi is large planetary level, with a mere power-level of 180, how was Frieza, with a power-level of 60,000,000 unable to blow it up? (I know he DID blow it up, but it shouldn't have taken 5 minutes)
@@MrCraftyScales I thought the whole reason he was willing to blow up namek with him on it was because he could tank the planet's explosion, plus he can breathe in space.
Seems fair enough tbh, also for people saying he wanked the saiyans that same rpg guide when talking about saiyan adaptation (either number 1 or 3) calls the spirit bomb a portable supernova and Vegeta also is stated in "Dragon box: The Dragon Ball Z facts files" to have enough power to anhilate a star. Now Jin has good arguments for speedblitz and dura neg, HOWEVER you could play devil's advocate and say that they could resist it as ki works on an atomic level (stated in Daizenshuu 2 that Trunks reduced Frieza to atoms which is consistent as Piccolo Jr after blasting Goku says he blasted him to atoms something Roshi somewhat confirms) so *maybe* they could resist it. But on the other hand you can argue the others have better ki control than these two 😅
Honestly that's an interesting argument I didn't think about either way it's a decent matchup also while I didn't know about that last scan you're talking about
@@MrCraftyScaleshey my guy , you forgot about how a planet in db that is the size of earth is over 1 billion km in diameter because of dr slump scaling
I dont know man, using power level units to scale is not a good idea, that is what i think, those power levels can just be applied to DB because those just follows DB logic and not other series
That isn't coherent at all, didn't apply the power levels to jin I used how much stronger they got based off The increases of their power which we had a numerical measurement
@@roywempor8395 Way above basic Galaxy level, with scaling you can get EOS Toriko to Uni - Multi. Maybe even outer using arguments for the Appetite Spirit realm.
Great video i even like the like button but have a question is it ture that Jin moro sacle nirvana like sun wokong who is high outerversal can jin moro be outerversal because of nirvana because his related to sun wokong because midnight dre a goku downplayer or a npc sacling no offense who said jin mori can be sacle to outerversal because of niverna is it ture
Hmmm I personally think it’s a stalemate if you think pressure points are a hax. Because Jin Mori is definitely not gonna hurt Vegeta and nappa, but those two aren’t even gonna touch Jin Mori. They’d literally have to resort to destroying the planet which wouldn’t be the smartest thing unless you think saiyans can survive in space which is already a lil debatable either way. So id personally say a stalemate
The only way Jin mori can win is distacted then to lower there ki and then finish then. You see in dragon ball super goku lower his ki and he get scratched by a bullet
@@yeikelamores6085 He has higher scaling without using the nirvana statement at all, Nirvana statement would just put him one dimension higher than other characters without nirvana in his verse. There's multiple 5d feats in God Of Highschool prior to Nirvana at all and outerversal implications.
Goku vs Jin mori equal stats would be a crazy fight ngl
Lowkey that's a fight I would do
I would say jin mori would win because of his great combat skills which dont compare to gokus but i dont really know but i would say
@@ShadowMonarch-mw7je
Depends on which version of Goku you are using and how high you think he is Dimensionally to be honest!😅
@@georgegobin1839doesn't matter equal stats
@@samydc310
I Guess?!😅
Let’s go some god of high school content
Great video man. I learned a lot from both sides, because I’m not familiar with GOH scaling. But dang the Saiyan saga is even more crazy than I thought.
Great video but as someone who watched your old videos, you seem like a really nice guy who has been through a lot. This may seem like an odd comment but I do think your channel is quite cool and that you're a great person.
Aw tysm man, and it means alot to be noticed and I hope I give good content
@MrCraftyScales Of course it does and yea, you do give good content. By chance, do you have Discord?
@@juliusnovachrono4370 ya here's my Discord mrcraftytm
It’s funny how when someone actually scales a character everyone thinks can beat goku they realize it’s not close. Anyway w vid, do rimuru next
Yeah, it's always fun
mori solos dbs
@@roywempor8395 🗿
Bro sounds like he just woke up from a 50-year hibernation
Finals man
Great video I learned a lot
Glad I can help
I… was not ready for “Star to Solar System level Saiyan Saga” via all that (plus the Supernova statement). I already knew they casually got to Large Planet, but never THIS powerful.
Also the “power resists hax” is still a debate, so I can see many interpretations for this. I think I generally agree with the outcome of the vid tho, but still. Supernova level Saiyan Saga Vegeta holy crap..
Ikr
Yeah, people love to sleep on Saiyan saga characters, hell, I can get them Vegeta and King Piccolo with some other statements in multi solar system+ and above
vegeta is planetary and power doesn't resist hax in db
@@roywempor8395Just tell me you don't know anything about DB
Amazing video 👍
Massive W video, love the good work 😤😤😤😤🙏🙏🙏🙏🔥🔥🔥
Tysm man
Massive W. Current jin vs all of DBZ would go crazy tbh. Btw did you my DMC scaling i sent you on discord?
Haven't had time to check but I will
@@MrCraftyScales it's cool. If you have questions ask me or flame
@@shaunbryantjr2355 mhm
Mr Crafty Scales can you do a How Strong is Soul Eater Video.
Sure in the future
Any updates on the Kratos vs Yhwach vid by any chance Mr. Crafty?🤔
I actually am working on that
@@MrCraftyScales
Awesome!😎👍
yhwach stomps
Say it with me now “depending on how you scale his narvana”
Did you realize this is BOS Jin right
@@MrCraftyScales it’s a meme from a shorts RUclipsr and I just had to say it
@@masterpink6963 omg I know they got here talking about 🤣
@@MrCraftyScales I just had to say it
“Depending on how you scale his Narvana” - Greatest powerscaling quote of all time 🗣🔥🔥
Ah so you do agree that there’s time in King Kai’s planet. Good good.
No?
@@MrCraftyScales You literally brought up the days it took Goku to travel to and from it and how he got faster….
@@nighfinite Yes it took days equivalent to the living universe
@@MrCraftyScales no, he literally took time to travel within the otherworld, and traveled distance meaning both space and time are present.
also if time wasn't present and Goku was still able to move he could have trained for more than an infinite amount of years.
@@roywempor8395Lack of time simply means that nothing will age, it does not mean timestop
Superboy-Prime vs X-Man (Nate Grey)
You know, if you use anime and power scaling, you can close the speed gap and even surpass Jin for the Ozaru Form of Vegeta and Nappa if they scale to Goku on the trip to Namek and arrival on Namek
Could you do a video power scaling dark souls and blood-borne and elder ring
Maybe in the future
Bloodborne is solar system
dark souls is planetary
elden ring is multi solar system
Short answer:yes . Long answer:yes ,he can
@what_could_have_been_.
Source: Trust me, bro, I'm a Dragon Ball fanboy.
@what_could_have_been_. Bro what are you on 💀
@what_could_have_been_. What databook
@@MrCraftyScalesbro in 3:18 113km/hrs = 31.388m/s, the reaction time would be 1.21×10^(-5) second
@what_could_have_been_.holy yap
mori jin slams
End of manga Mori (in my opinion) would stomp at least ssb goku id be so interested in seeing the two actually fight-
Nah, that's too much, BoG Goku
Finally some Goh love
Silver the Hedgehog vs Tatsumaki
Interesting
Silver. No Diff.
Any specific version of Silver?
The saiyans are massively slow when talking or distracted.
Like when their chilling? Sure but that's everyone
how did u get the time frame lol got confused
Wdym?
@@MrCraftyScales nvm i got it
Yo Crafty, remember me? Well whatever doesn't matter, I want to talk about if you need a video editor? Before dismissing me I would like if u watched my edits at least
Thx for the offer but I'm editing my vids just fine
@@MrCraftyScales Ok cool
How on earth was Final form Frieza unable to blow up namek? I don't care how dense namek is, if DB Roshi is large planetary level, with a mere power-level of 180, how was Frieza, with a power-level of 60,000,000 unable to blow it up? (I know he DID blow it up, but it shouldn't have taken 5 minutes)
So context is king in this, he stated he lessen the power so he could get out in time
@@MrCraftyScales I thought the whole reason he was willing to blow up namek with him on it was because he could tank the planet's explosion, plus he can breathe in space.
@@WilliamCurtisBK ya but he 1 would rather not tank it, and he also wanted to fight Goku or try lol
@@MrCraftyScales alright, I get it, he wanted to try to kill Goku himself but if he failed, Goku would just get wiped out in the blast anyways.
@@WilliamCurtisBK mhm
can we get a natsu vs ichigo plz.
I'm down
Ichigo speedblitz onetaps
Mori Jin stomps until buu saga
End mori would beat goku (at least in my opinion)
@@gemgerardo2167no
he stomps until future black saga
@@roywempor8395 that's what I thought. Like Goku only wins with MUI
@@roywempor8395 Mori EoS is about Low Multiversal. And full power Goku is about High Multiversal
W viddio I travel to North Korea
Seems fair enough tbh, also for people saying he wanked the saiyans that same rpg guide when talking about saiyan adaptation (either number 1 or 3) calls the spirit bomb a portable supernova and Vegeta also is stated in "Dragon box: The Dragon Ball Z facts files" to have enough power to anhilate a star. Now Jin has good arguments for speedblitz and dura neg, HOWEVER you could play devil's advocate and say that they could resist it as ki works on an atomic level (stated in Daizenshuu 2 that Trunks reduced Frieza to atoms which is consistent as Piccolo Jr after blasting Goku says he blasted him to atoms something Roshi somewhat confirms) so *maybe* they could resist it. But on the other hand you can argue the others have better ki control than these two 😅
Honestly that's an interesting argument I didn't think about either way it's a decent matchup also while I didn't know about that last scan you're talking about
@@MrCraftyScaleshey my guy , you forgot about how a planet in db that is the size of earth is over 1 billion km in diameter because of dr slump scaling
Master chief vs doom slayer at his weakest
Supernovas can blow up planets ?
They take our star systems man
They can do a thousand more damage than that broskie 💀
@@shaunbryantjr2355 good to know
@@MrCraftyScalesI’m pretty sure it would take out half of our system
Speed vs strength ik EOS mori can breath in space but idk abt the start so if they just blow up the planet they could win if not mori just blitzes
ayo craft. I got a video Id like you to debunk.
?
@@MrCraftyScales ruclips.net/video/MgCdGEHWDL4/видео.htmlsi=2htoOVchnE_8cgh2
@@MrCraftyScales ruclips.net/video/MgCdGEHWDL4/видео.htmlsi=uxWR7b0nkQx0wue2
@@MrCraftyScales ruclips.net/video/MgCdGEHWDL4/видео.htmlsi=R6fod6_-xgOoNdJO
@@MrCraftyScalesuhh, can I link you the video I want you to debunk or what
I dont know man, using power level units to scale is not a good idea, that is what i think, those power levels can just be applied to DB because those just follows DB logic and not other series
That isn't coherent at all, didn't apply the power levels to jin I used how much stronger they got based off The increases of their power which we had a numerical measurement
The Four Heavenly Kings from Toriko vs Cell?
Hmmm idk I would need to look into it
it's close
@@roywempor8395 Honestly I think they get way higher into Dragon Ball, I really want Crafty to scale Toriko or do anything with Toriko
@@BasedKuuTooGourmet oh wait I remembered wrong, they are like galaxy level right? then they solo Z
@@roywempor8395 Way above basic Galaxy level, with scaling you can get EOS Toriko to Uni - Multi. Maybe even outer using arguments for the
Appetite Spirit realm.
🔥
Great video i even like the like button but have a question is it ture that Jin moro sacle nirvana like sun wokong who is high outerversal can jin moro be outerversal because of nirvana because his related to sun wokong because
midnight dre a goku downplayer or a npc sacling no offense who said jin mori can be sacle to outerversal because of niverna
is it ture
I'm unaware of where Sun Wukong scales and how it correlates to TGOHS but I will in the future
I think he mean by nirvana jin mori can be scaled to 2-c . Midnightdre just hates db fans he is the same dude who said goku can't bypass gojo
spoilers, mori jin at the end of his series might legit be able for fight super characters
Literally the characters at the beginning of Super trample him
Mori bullies
Hmmm I personally think it’s a stalemate if you think pressure points are a hax. Because Jin Mori is definitely not gonna hurt Vegeta and nappa, but those two aren’t even gonna touch Jin Mori. They’d literally have to resort to destroying the planet which wouldn’t be the smartest thing unless you think saiyans can survive in space which is already a lil debatable either way. So id personally say a stalemate
It could very well end up like that
The only way Jin mori can win is distacted then to lower there ki and then finish then. You see in dragon ball super goku lower his ki and he get scratched by a bullet
The bad thing is that Saiyans like Nappa or Vegeta Saiyan saga do not do it, they always have their power high
This dragon ball high ball is ridiculous why are they this strong already PLANETARY IS ENOUGH
Hey man Dbz slams
Highball?is not even remotely close to Highball
Bro yamacha is as strong as cell probably at the beginning of super. And cell can destory galaxies easily. Even a yamacha can solo jin.
Jin shut off the universe and stronger than that so
@@Keith_NormanThat Feat is calculated in multi solar system
Jin mori would simply be dust particles messing with the saiyans
RAHHHH FINALLY
Lmfao
Jin Mori beating Goku
No
@@yeikelamores6085 yes, easily
@@kakuzugoated873 On what basis? And don't tell me Nirvana, because that doesn't scale to anything in power.
@@yeikelamores6085 He has higher scaling without using the nirvana statement at all, Nirvana statement would just put him one dimension higher than other characters without nirvana in his verse. There's multiple 5d feats in God Of Highschool prior to Nirvana at all and outerversal implications.
some of these feats are wanked for db characters but yea the saiyans lose
How are they wank?