YouTube Monetization 2024? Why I don't care! 😜 Quitting Youtube?
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- Опубликовано: 24 фев 2024
- RUclips won't monetize my channel! HA! So in todays video I talk about my journey to hit the golden 1000 subscribers and 4000 watch hours RUclips monetization threshold only to find Google Adsense found my channel didn't meet their 'programme criteria'. Initially it made me want to quit RUclips.
It was a bit of a blow after 9 months of making weekly videos, but it happened around the exact same time (January 2024) that dozens and dozens of top creative RUclipsrs started quitting RUclips. Which got me thinking about the downsides to monetizing my channel.
In the video I get into a number of reasons why that might not be a bad thing. As well as talking about some amazing photographers who are crushing it in the real world and yet would probably get over looked on social media.
Shout outs to:
Laura Radford / lauraradford_stills
/ @alecsothyoutube
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Yay, big up the indies. I was publishing a fantasy fiction fanzine in the 90s which was very niche. I've been dabbling in youtube but am miles off monetisation, aside from which they keep giving me strikes for a) linking to my vintage shop, b) linking to my buymeacoffee. So who knows what's going on with their bots. And yes - it's all been gamified, that's what they use to fuel the addiction and make need to keep on churning out content like good little unpaid employees. So well done for clinging to your integrity in this mad world of cybernonesense.
Ah no way! They don't want you linking to shops? Ha! When I've remembered I've added links to my books for sale on my website. Could that go against me being monetized?
who knows? Hope not.@@PicturesOnMyMind
Thank you Ed for being the person you are ! Beautiful soul !
Thanks Jofie 👍
Well said, Ed. I've missed you weekly videos the last couple of weeks as you address topics that are meaningful and interesting to real photographers. But you're right - RUclips should be a means to an end not the other way round. It's the reason I've never bothered with setting up a channel. I'll still watch you videos when you have the time to make them.
Hope the exhibition went well!
Thanks Nic! Exhibition at the Saatchi Gallery is up till the 3rd March, I've only managed to get up once to see it last week but I got to check out the Burtynsky show there as well.
Exactly! Making content to keep eyeballs on ads is not how it should be. So many bloated videos out there. Keep making the good stuff!
In fact "the algorithm" has led me to your channel when I was searching for knowledge on making photo books (real ones i. e.), so it worked out without taking popularity too much into weight for the results, and I really thank you for sharing your knowledge, which in turn showed me, that applying it still needs time plus aesthetical experience in typography and print space layout. So, what about offering your skills as a service? At least they could not cut your gains on the videos for linking your own site. I really like all of your content so far and look forward for more of it - not just for print topics. Thanks you!
Thank you, I've thought about this but my current circumstances mean I don't have time to do that. But hopefully in the future. That's be a great idea, thank you. Someone on these comments did say something about RUclips unmonetizing channels for linking to shops/websites... But as I'm not monetized I guess that doesn't matter?
Right on.
Keep being you and doing what you're doing. It's really good.
Thanks Paul 📸 🧙♂️
Finally someone is talking about this . I’m starting to give up getting monetized on my older account just don’t seem like it’s going to happen.
what you said resonated with me, and i am in music. I guess this is a good message for artists in general. Thanks
'resonated'....'music'.... I see what you did there! 🙌 You're welcome
Hey Ed. Love the message in this video. Love your integrity and love you. Keep going and being driven by love of photography. Indie rules !!
AHH Mark! Made my day! Thank you
This video is timely for me and I so needed to hear this message. Thank you! 🙏🏼
You brought home a very good point! I am a brand new creator to YT, not getting alot if subs thus far, but you know what? I quickly realized at about 10 or so subs that this is no more than a psych game. I had a couple of “viral” clips, but it doesn’t mean much to me at this point. So the viewers’ count is low, so my subs count is slowly climbing, but in the end, what matters is I like what I am doing and not trying to entertain this stupid psych game they play. That’s what matters! It may take me 10 years at the rate I am going, but… so what. 😊
Well said. Thank you for making this.
Glad I found your channel. The only thing RUclips seems to do right is the recommendation algorithm.
Ha! Well I am glad you found my video somehow! Thank you
Hello, Ed: Thank you for this video. There are two types of RUclips channels dealing with photography. The first is a RUclipsr who talks about photography - but isn't a working photographer. The second type consists of photographers who have a RUclips channel. Either is perfectly acceptable - unless of course there is some form of deception going on. For example, the RUclipsr who pretends to be a working photographer.
Your videos are very much appreciated. I hope you can still find the time and inspiration to keep making them. All the best to you.
I`m not a professional photographer but I`m subscribing to your channel just because of this video. You're right. Use RUclips to promote the things you do and help the community not versa.
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After being bombarded for the last two weeks about how to monetize my RUclips channel, I think I needed this video. Praise Alec Soth, I’m following him too, damn it
You're welcome! And yes, Alec Soth 🙌
yes! this is a very important insight. Love your work, that infrared veins project you did looked awesome.
Thank you! That's very kind of you to say. Made my day! Have a great Sunday
All power to you, Ed! This is the best attitude.
Interesting video, thanks for sharing! 😊
Thanks Harry, I've been enjoying your stuff too. Loved the David Icke video!
@@PicturesOnMyMind thanks! That one was funny to make. This is Fred here I think Harry messaged you though.
Hope all is well!
thanks for bringing Alec Soth to my attention 🙂
You are so right! We are now living in a Kafkaesque nightmare - at every level and obviously in all areas of life. And artists' souls in particular have to become independent of the "mainstream" in order to stay healthy and creative! Keep it up - your work is an inspiration to me
Thanks Robert!!!
It's a real pity that they were so narrow minded to not monestise the channel but this video's message is a good one and we're looking forward to whatever videos you put out. it is unfortunate that pretty much all the top photography youtube channels are run by youtubers and not working photographers but as you say, if you are killing it in the real world then social media isn't as relevant.
Great video and good points man!
Don't believe the hype! Thanks for the hard work you put into your videos Ed 🙏 A lot of the photog related stuff on social media is *yawn* but yours offers real value. Will check out your upcoming show.
Thanks Gareth, yeah I guess I was trying to ski up hill on RUclips wasn't I! Ha! Anyway, always fun to try things out. I learned a lot doing it so am now going to try and make some documentary short films about local artists. And yeah, it's the Affordable Art Fair in Battersea this March. If you email me or DM I can send you a free ticket, it's £14 otherwise!!
Cheers Ed- will DM you. At least you've got a few thousand viewers who really value what you share rather than a few million who are meh which is probably much better long term. Tough game and easy to get disheartened so wish you the strength to keep on in spite of it all!@@PicturesOnMyMind
@@garethjohnson6208 yeah, I do enjoy it. But right now I'm essentially looking after my girls and caring for my mum. So no time for hobbies, and to me that's what RUclips is.
Google is the key driver of the Bowdlerization of the arts.
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I just recently got into photography and was always confused when i found videos with titles like „why you don‘t need to be popular on social media to be a good photographer“..
I didn‘t think that people that do photography would actually care so much about social media and genuinely think that it has anything to do with being a good photographer..
I wonder why it is that people actually seem to think that way.
If money is the reason you do youtube, and you want to do it as your profession, there are a number of resources about what to do and why. You would beed to adjust your content to be exactly that, youtube content. With all the things that every popular youtube channel does, because it‘s proven to work and engage a large audience. There is very little originality, and your audience probably ends up being 12 year old kinds with ipads.. Because they provide the numbers and are easily manipulated through the youtube algorithms.
So in that sense, as a creative and professional, aiming for high numbers is probably the exact opposite you will want to do for your professional work, and i understand why professionals may not be impressed at all by „youtubers“ with millions of subscribers..
Truth!
My RUclips studio stats (🤮 hahaaha) tell me my audience average age is over 35 years old! So yep, never hit that lucrative youth market! 🤣
I Like how you connect with the viewer talking about the same thing I am going through now! Ironicly my brain is trained to think how can I do that with my video? HAhahaha
Its funny as for all the "I got monetized in a month" videos I wonder how many there are telling the other side of the story? That said, everyone loves a winner right 🤣🏆
@@PicturesOnMyMind yeah absolutely, seems peoples attention spans are getting shorter. Many people I know are moving to tik tok and instagram reels. I just dont enjoy making short form content.
Well said ... but it's nice to be monetized just for sake of being monetized. I wouldn't chase it. I've been chasing it at the beginning, but now I do not care that much. Lately I'm creating videos just for fun or to start some discussion (I got like 10 channels :D).
I mostly watch channels with like 5-10k subs, they seems to have the most original content. But some of the channels I watch grown to 500k or even to 8M.
Ah thanks, I just saw this comment. Yeah I'm thinking about getting some help to sort out what's going on. RUclips team buddy and VidIQ don't appear to have anyone to help with if your channel's accused of having not the right program criteria. I might try some third party people to get some advice
Do what YOU do, the way that YOU do it. There are a handful of YT photogs who are authentic, and then there are the vast number of "the rest". There are many who started authentically and interestingly, but who have now become one the of the "Five things you should never do in landscape/portrait/architectural/street photography" brigade. Marcus Aurelius said - the greatest revenge is not to be numbered amongst the rest.
Oh yeah Martin bringing out the Marcus Aurelius! Hannibal Lecturer would be proud! Thank you
With comments like that you can really see why my RUclips channel is never going to be popular! But this is definitely the way to go isn't it. It's like RUclips for people who read! 😉
YT does seem a bit paradoxical. Those with passion and experience in their subjects don't seem to do well yet they're the ones that I find most engaging and useful. The lowest views and least subscribed appear to be from well known names that are worth listening to, eg. The Martin Parr Foundation.
Obviously there are exceptions.
I agree, I tend to go for those with low subscriber numbers, are sincere and have value. Been watching photog for a few yrs now and can easily weed out the wanabees and tryhards.
I did look forward to your videos on Fridays, and you've been amazing and generous with your time and knowledge. But it's more than understandable you need to put this channel a bit on the back burner, we'll watch every time you're back, you're a star! Good luck with everything!
Thank you Maria, very kind words.
There's an annoying double standard on this platform. I finally gave up on the one channel I was hoping to monetize last year (also my oldest channel) ruclips.net/video/C2SyO1BhI84/видео.html
I was never quite eligible for monitezation. The problem was how hard YT makes it for a creator like me who isn't doing thirst-trap content.
what an intelligent and articulate video, I shall remain subscribed xx
Thank you! That's very kind to say. I banged it out in one take 😜
from the heart x May your burdens shrink and your joy magnify xx@@PicturesOnMyMind
+@xxxjojo3576 mate, that was an epic thing to say to someone. thank you
YEP. I never even tried because I will never be interested in feeding the algorithm.
More like you is best.
There is a huge gap between being on RUclips and being a RUclipsr.
One is creative expression the other is a cloying drag on creativity.
I thought everyone on RUclips was a "RUclipsr", but you're right Don. It's a certain style of delivery, output and hyper monetization that makes a RUclipsr a RUclipsr. The thought of having product placement in my videos by a sponsor makes me feel 🤮. I'm with Bill Hicks on that one!
Nice vid. Been trying to get my channel monetized for almost a decade, no luck yet but still working on it 😅
However, somehow managed to get monitized on Twitch in like 3 months...
AHH very interesting! What videos do you share on Twitch? I thought it was a video platform for livestreaming video gameplay? Do you think I could put my stuff on there? Thanks @christcooleye3689
I make music, so now I livestream music performances to Twitch, which I can then edit and re-upload to youtube, or just bring over to youtube raw.
Don't get me wrong, the pay is not great, but after trying to get monetized on youtube for so long I was surprised to get affiliate status relatively quickly over there...
@@christcooleye3689 ah that's really cool! I didn't know people did that. Like you livestream a live performance of you making your music?
@@PicturesOnMyMind yeah, I do some live-looping and/or recording streams with myself & bandmates, which I can then cut into music videos for youtube when the tracks are done, and also do some more niche "eurorack" modular synth streams, where I create a "patch" that can play and evolve for hours. I've been told it makes for good reading/studying/etc music.
This particular niche may be just obscure enough to keep me from getting more viewers, or responsible for bringing me the majority of viewers I currently have. Its hard to tell at this point 🤗
There is also a "just talking" section (on Twitch), where I've seen that some youtubers will stream a talk/rant there and then edit it for a youtube video (I do this on occasion if I'm say, going to talk about a specific piece of gear or are building/soldering something)
@@christcooleye3689 ah cool. I listen to a lot of Synthwave, vapourwave, darkwave (lol whatever they call it!) When I'm editing photos or writing. Can you share a link to your twitch here? I haven't blocked people from sharing URLs on my channel.
good lad
This is really fascinating. I've been a commercial and corporate filmmaker for the past 15 years. Went straight into commercial work right after completing an MA in documentary photography at LCC. By my own admission I've done pretty well. But for various different reasons, I'm now going back into documentary filmmaking and considering RUclips as a primary channel to publish my work on. Already I'm beginning to think about and feel the pressure of keeping the algorithms happy. So in addition to producing a 5 to 10 minute film, I'm also considering how I can utilise shorts to shovel more 'content' onto the platform.
Loved your point about 90's pop culture. I had a very similar path. As my mates were listening to 2 Unlimited I was down the local market looking for Hawkwind records.
That's funny! I'm a grad of the '07 cohort. Paul Lowe is a legend. I'd love to see some of your documentary films if they're online? I've been trying to make my own documentary for four years but yeah it's kind of hard because I'm in it? Ha! They were my first ever gig in 1993... Hawkwind, not 2 Unlimited. 😉
@@PicturesOnMyMind That’s hilarious. I was there 09 to 10 I think the 2nd year to do the online module. Yeah so many great tutors on that course. I’ve always regretted not going full steam into documentary work but I was in a tricky situation and had to start earning quickly.
Must have seen Hawkwind on the same tour as I saw them in Dublin in 93. I’m currently in the process of applying for funding but it’s been an arduous process and I dread the thought of having to fill out another funding application. So really mulling the idea of RUclips, Patreon, experimenting a bit, and producing some short form docs.
Yes, very true, I was monetised before 1000 subs rule and lost it when they rolled in that rule. I tried to make my vids according to their advice and it came out as disaster - the same thing vidQ, my vids with highest VidQ score had the least views, my vids with no tags, no descriptions and poor thumbnail had highest views on the channel. I had the most subs grow when I had 2 years break with no single video posted and my views was still maintained on decent level with absolutely no effort 😆 making videos for algorithm is like doing something you don't want to do and your viewers don't wanna watch - most things I try to watch is 30% of something usefull or entertaining and the rest of video is just algorithm criteria that I skip and what funny things is they push me to make over 12 min content that most viewers watch 2-5 min average 😁
Yeah it seems a lot of people have all these tools and advice for growing on youtube... But that's their thing! Lol making growing on RUclips videos ugh! I've experienced the same thing after ruminating on keyword phrases and titles etc random videos even take off months after posting with rubbish SEO.
Betting your income on RUclips is dangerous as it may change the rules of the game anytime. ¿Maybe Patreon is the solution?
£3 per 1000 views I think they used to pay? You need 10s of thousands of views every week to make any money on this platform? Your videos have been very insightful so one a month or one every other month will be great if you have the time. Social media is about being present and having some interesting interactions/ conversations but nothing more unless you turn it into a full time job and even then there is so much content now that I think people are just drowning in it. Well done for doing what you've you have done. Time to prioritise what matters most.
Thanks Martin 👍will do
I don't get any of those promoted videos - how? because I don't watch any of them - I have 296 subs, all organic and I'm more than happy to get 1 sub each month .. I have no plans being monetized .. just want to get my lost 80s out before I leave this world 🙂
Subbed! Dig it Lars! Lovely stuff
@@PicturesOnMyMind Wow, thanks man - I really appreciate it :-) .. Don't forget to read my bio .. there are some info behind it all :-)
@@larswillsen hero! Thank you Lars. You are a true inspiration. I'll photoshop my neg scans to your tunes!
@@PicturesOnMyMind That is a great honor 🙂
Another upside is your viewers experience a halfway premium subscription…ad free viewing baby! 😎
But there are ads on my videos aren't there? I never monetized so don't know about that. Do RUclipsrs put more adverts on their videos?
@@PicturesOnMyMind I haven’t seen ads on your video. I think the ads only show up when the channel’s monetized but I could be wrong.
@@inkaststudio well that's good to know. I'm glad you don't have to sit through Squarespace adverts / give money to Google 🤮
@@PicturesOnMyMind 🤣🤣👍🏾
All my animations are pretend for the camera. Got monetized about a month ago. I'm looking at a paycheck for about 6 bucks this month. RUclips won't make artists rich, just idiots tricking kids.
Tricks are for kids! Thanks Ryan, I'll check your animations out.
RUclips is not a real job or career. You can can get demonitized with a snap of a finger. I was montetized around 2012 got paid 20$-100$ a month, what a joke. Started a real photography business shooting real estate and never looked back. Only have a handful of clients and making more money than my full-time job. Note running your own business is not for everyone!
I hear ya! Freelancing is tough, the pandemic took a lot of freelancers out here in the UK and the last year 2023/24 was a lean year for most of us. That's why I think it's good to sell photo books, prints etc lots of different things. I've earned about £4k this year from photo book sales so far. And I'm just an independent publisher making my own photo books! Whatever it takes though right? It's like freelance spread betting 🤣
@@PicturesOnMyMind I was selling my coffee table books also. Once I ran out of customers I had to actively promote the book to make any sales. I would be lucky if I sold half a dozen books a month.
Dude. Thank you! What an amazing, inspiring, eye-opening, awakening video! Yes I was a teenager in the 90ies as well. I got lost in yt game a few times, but I was always trying to keep one thing in mind - I AM A CHEF NOT A RUclipsR. YT should support my real life work, I shouldn't waste real life to live on yt. 191 subscribers - that's why my channel is cool. Thank you! :-)
Oh wow! Just checked out your RUclips page. That grub looks amazing! + extra cool points for the channel name!
@@PicturesOnMyMind haha I knew there will be someone, who won't resist the temptation to check this "loser channel" ;-P sounds like a great new strategy :-D "cmon guys. this channel is so lame. don't go there" :-D I feel like I'm in a band from seattle in the 90ies ;-)