If you want overclocking you have to go with E5-1xxx series. I should have known and explained in this episode that the e5-2xxx series is locked only BLCK overclocking which will be limited. Sorry for the confusion, I will keep researching
Stop this nonsense please... in no way is this "better for gaming" higher fps does not mean a better game play experience at all. Just look at your minimum fps the ryzen kills this cpu every game. I think its fun to see this content but dont lie to people about what is better man..
Actually there is another thing entirely that matters more than anything to do with frames, and this platform would kill even modern Intel at it. It's harder to quantify though, but it is possible. This system is going to be more "responsive" than Ryzen or 8th gen Intel. 7th gen might match it, but even that is debatable because it still uses DDR4. DDR3 is way more responsive than DDR4.
im still rocking a 3930k, the best cpu's for this platform are 1650(v2) 1680(v2) 2690v2 (u can overclock the 2690v2 its a 10 core and cheaper but only to like 4.4-4.5 ghz)
Bought whole pc for 60€ and it had lga2011 (asus p9x79) mobo in it. Threw my extra lga1366 mobo in it and I'm goig to sell it and keep that lga2011 for myself for free.
X79 uses DDR3 which can be bought used for much cheaper than DDR4. Anandtech did a test a while back which showed that, while the higher clock speeds of the DDR4 RAM will yield you a higher max fps, the lower CAS latency of the DDR3 RAM would yield you a higher minimum fps. With a Rampage IV Extreme motherboard there's a modded BIOS that lets you use M.2 drives as well so with the current cost of RAM and the lower CPU latency with a ring-bus as compared to infinity fabric or Intel's new mesh there's many reasons for still going the X79-route.
@@Daffmeister187 🤓 yes i agree, some game benchmarks on youtube show ddr3 running close to ddr4, depends on the game, yeah i like intel and ddr3 stuff, i wouldnt mind building an x79 one of these days 😎🏠
A mostly eBay system I built last year (with the exception of the graphics card which was purchased on FB marketplace) - thinkstation s30 X79 mobo $100 - Xeon E5 2690 8c 3.8g turbo $125 - GTX 1060 3gb $125 - 32gb ECC ram $60 - Master case $50 - hyper 212 (new egg gift w/ case) - 256gb ssd $50 - 2tb hdd $25 1300 cinebench score for $535
paul Z I got my 2690 for £118 Mono for £100 16gb £0 Nzxt case £45, cost £145 brand new Evga 1300g2 gold PSU £115 CORSAIR K70 lux red with mouse £70 Dell 2k monitor ultra wide FREE -Used £200
Lil late but I got my mobo, 16gb ram, e2690 all for £90 on AliExpress,a 550w gold PSU,case,1tb HDD all for £35 and my friend sold me his 1060 6gb for £110 and then I put it together myself. Not bad for about £250
The reason why u see is Intel CPU has not improved much since 2012. Also, that CPU still use Ring Bus. Try taking a 7820X and compare that too. Watch the old CPU win lol.
I have this motherboard with a 3930k and it hits 5Ghz easy. Might try a Xeon if I can find one at a reasonable price. I'm sure these aren't pure 22 phases as there are no 22 phase voltage controllers some sort of doubling must be going on.
this is one of the main drawbacks going with old platform/mobo. You never know what you are getting and once it or if it breaks its hard to get another one.
The conclusions are a bit strange for me. As a gamer for me is much more important the minimal frame rates I can achieve, not the maximum ones. From the tests is visible that Ryzen is giving higher minimum frame rates in all games. Having said that I wont take this XEON rig for gaming....Newer 6 cores I5 CPUs clocked to 5GHz will perform better on lower price.
Ya know I keep seeing that Mobo, I wish I had one because I'd try and do a really cool miltary ammo box build with it. The chipset heatsink SCREAMS put me in a case like that and give me and io cover with some cammo (plexiglass, Dremel and a heatgun. Paint it) with some noctua fans for a semi desert feel or a offblack, with dark green matching the ammo box styled case. I think Corsair is the one who makes one that's very similar to a ammo box. It's an oldie, but by God it would be gorgeous. Sorry this board gets me hyper just looking at it.
Dennis Rigdon Corsair Vengeance C70 military green. City I live n guy has one on Craigslist for $40 brand new. Crazy I just spoke with him. I think I might get it. I might be n love. Its something different you know.
Just for anyone considering this CPU, the difference between 4.4 and 4.6 Ghz is minuscule in cinebench, just in case some of you can't reach 4.6. I have a Noctua air cooler and could only make 4.4 Ghz but the performance is just as good for gaming.
I have been thinking of building an X79 for MONTHS, it was fairly evident to me that Ryzen isn't that far off architecturally from Sandy/Ivy. So yeah this is useful.
9:05 You can use M.2 drives on X79 with a modded BIOS, there's some modded BIOS'es out already, and it's possible to do it yourself fairly straight-forward following instructions.
i know this is old but you can use NVMe m2 on x58 as well with an adapter card and a program called ReFind as a boot drive. I run a X58 Sabertooth and have been using it for a boot drive since NVMe's came out.. You used to have to write the Tiano Core wrapper your self for the Bios but now its stupid easy with Refind.. It's literally plug and play usb drive that you make on another PC. Also it will work on any platform.
you recommend 2680 v2 and 2697 v2 and compare them to ryzen and threadripper but keep in mind 26xx xeons are multi locked and can not be oced, so you will not get any extra performance from them unlike your 1680 v2
JB6789 you can put it in a motherboard that supports BCLK overclocking and voltage adjustment or using high load line calibration. I’ve seen stable base clocks of 114 on e5 v2 xeons.
I don't think Ryzen platforms will last longer. For example As I remember first Socket 775 platforms supported DDR2 400 mhz , last ones supported DDR3 1600Mhz. You could I theory run some oldest s775 processors in some newest s775 motherboards, but not the other way round. Now Rynen second generation was introduced and it supports fasted DDR4, by the time a 3rd generation will be introduced some motherboards will probably will not be able to support recommended memory types and they will seriously limit the power of new CPU's. You will end up replacing motherboard for full experience. The only thing I hate about Intel's strategy to replace socket type every two years is that it is f...ing misleading.. They introduced i7-8700K on a socket 1151, but it if fully incompatible with previous platforms using socket 1151, and those are incompatible with with even earlier socket 1151 platforms. And the Xeon's ... Some motherboard supports some, some supports none. You have be a f...ing computer guru to build Intel platform from used parts. On an AMD side you have nice and easy way of continuously upgrading your platform, you replace CPU, then you can replace your motherboard, then you may replace your CPU again, install bigger, faster memories, etc. Everything should work will everything. The only thing you can screw up is pairing newer CPU with older motherboard that has no BIOS updated to support it. You are not toasted yet, all you have to do is to barrow older Ryzen form someone and upgrade your BIOS or pay someone to do it. AMD has even thought about this problem. New motherboards supporting generation 2 Ryzens comes with a special sticker on box. AMD is a much more user friendly with upgrades. I don't think Intel's strategy to force users to change whole platform with every generation is any beneficial to them and motherboard producers after all. On the one hand It makes upgrading CPU in your old rig obsolete, you will end up with maxed platform that is on the end of it's life anyway. on the other hand how many users are replacing CPU, motherboard and possibly memory every two years?. I think most users postpone their upgrades for another 2 years and replace whole rig at once. Is it generating more sales of Intel's CPUs and motherboards? I don't think so...
🤓 hi joe, can you please make more X58 & X79 videos, i am doubling down on platforms that can reuse DDR3 Memory, i also like that this platform can support 6, 8, 10, 12, or more core cpus, I have also noticed that in the 3rd world they are taking a notice on these platforms as well since they support ddr3 memory and perform better than a regular Sandy Bridge i3, i5, i7 🚤😍🚩
I made my first decent and main/current pc on this, with a 4930K on a X79 sabertooth, been using it over a year with my 1070. I mean yeah, sure power consumption isn’t amazing, but damn, I were impressed with it once finished building it, Great content as always dude!
they are a fantastic CPU but between the average price being around 350-450 usd used and another 100-200 usd for a motherboard it is hardly worth it. also i have a X79 system running a E5-2687w and have not upgraded to this chip due to the price.
2700x is barely 7-8 frames behind in average fps and noticeably better for 0.1% and 1% lows.. While the 2700x can do everything this cpu can but in a stock setting. The only advantage for the aging xeon is the ddr3 ecc memory that is dirt cheap.
A lot of that has to do with the memory speed. At 2666mhz the 1680v2 has much better frametimes. You also have to remember the 2700x is at 4.3ghz which is quite high, the 1680v2 can run ~4.8ghz pretty easily on a decent loop. Another thing, most x79 boards do not support registered ECC and have to use unbuffered ECC which is as expensive as standard unbuffered DDR3.
Just because he wasn't able to get it past 4.65ghz on an AIO doesn't mean that was the max. I run mine at 4.6ghz at 1.3v on a D15, 4.8ghz at 1.4v is stable but the D15 can not keep it under control. Some run it 24/7 at 4.8ghz on a custom loop and it can hit ~5.7ghz under LN2. I don't disagree that a 2700x is a better choice in general, especially with the prices of the x79 boards. In my case I looked at DDR4 prices and decided against paying $800-1000 for 64gb of decent DDR4 and instead snagged a 1680v2 for $300 and kept my memory (and board). But there are deals to be had if you keep an eye out, I snagged a few x79 Deluxes for $100-150 last year and paired them with 1660's/1650s ($70-100) overclocked to 4.5-4.8ghz (all D15's) and 16gb of 2400mhz and threw some 1080's in them (also snagged on sale last year for $400 ea), they do just as well as the 1680v2 in games. But of course there is a risk and I'd always recommend someone looking for a primary build to buy something with warranties, etc.
Nah they're not killing anything in 2018, look what a used B350 + R7 1700 + 16gb of ram costs on Craigslist, eBay. About the same or less, depends on what x79 mainboard and xeon you would go for. Plus the much lower power consumption, newer plattform, warranty, you name it.
Ryzen + mobo is less than a X79 platform, but DDR4 is more expensive (two to three times). Unless you need >32 GB of RAM, Ryzen is better value for the most part, since it is more efficient and has an upgrade path still.
If u wanna buy x79 (or x58) u shouldn’t buy it on eBay but locally like craigslist or something... those old eBay mobo are way overpriced, I bought mine for 50€ at 2km from my house!
I have a X79 with Xeon E5 2680 V2 10 Core system which can beat my Ryzen 1700 system in Cinebench at Stock but a with slight Over Clock the Ryzen system kicks butt and yes the Xeon E5 2680 V2 is a power hog... but still a nice system. X79 system built for stability no overclocking and using ECC Quad Channel Memory 10 Cores and 20 Threads of goodness, also with Nvme PCIe x4 PM961 128GB SSD Boot Drive and RAID 1 Seagate Drives for Data storage. Yes I'm using Huanan X79 Deluxe Chinese Motherboard which has been running for 12 months continuously without any issues and I don't need to overclock or wish to as long term stability is more important to me.
I just got given an x79 gigabyte board... got an i7 3930k from a mate for $120 AUD, 32gb DDR3 that I already had and picked up an ex-mining RX480 for $220 AUD. so for what cost me $340 AUD I got 4.7GHz 6 core 12 thread with an RX480
🤓 Its ok, it doesnt have to be better than ryzen, what really matters is that with this platform you can reuse your old ddr3 memory and u can keep using Windows 7 64bit so yeah Keep It Old School! 🚤✌😍🚩
Even now in 2022, these old x79 systems can still be built to be a very affordable and relevant system if you play your cards right. If you already have a high end x79 board laying around from an old computer and the RAM, you can grab a 1680v2 or any of the other Xeons of the time for $100-200 and have a very good 1080p gaming system. Some of the boards even have BIOS's online on various forums that add support for booting from an M.2 SSD for a massive performance jump on I/O; a PCIE to M.2 adapter will work in any PCI 3.0 complaint system, but the BIOS has to support booting from that, but worst case you throw a cheap SATA SSD in for your OS and load everything else on an M.2. But yeh the combination of quad channel RAM that was insanely OP when it came out in 2013, combined with old unlocked Xeons has allowed this platform to remain capable and relevant WAY longer than it was ever intended to. I definitely wouldn't dump a ton of money into an old system like this, but if you have your old RAM and mobo laying around from an old build, or youi can get those parts cheap, it can be very much worth doing instead of dropping $2000 on a brand new system.
You talk 2 much bruh... I mean it's good test but u are talking and talking things... i get bored in 1/3 clip and i just check benchmarks result, write that comment and do something else xD
I have a Xeon E5-2618L-v3 turbo upto 3.4Ghz 8 cores 16 threads 40 pci lanes ebay special Oct 2016 $250 in a ASRock X99 Taichi with 32GB DDR4 and a 1070. i was lucky to get my DDR4 ram and GPU in April 2017 before the price spike. each kit of ram would be $100 more to buy it today
The temps will hit the wall on the VRM's, take a thermal cam and look at it. Tech Yes City showed that without active cooling on the vrm they'll go over 90 degrees Celsius
I think the gaming results make sense in all honesty because even though ryzen has Broadwell IPC it performs more like Haswell in terms of gaming performance and with a Sandy Bridge processor overclocked like that comes pretty close to being that kind of performance
I joined this party a little late. I have a sabertooth x79 and I would have retired it for next to nothing if not for videos like these. Instead, I bought an e1680.v2, and treated myself to a MSI 1080ti 11g and I'm thrilled. Now I know the cons are that I lost the ability to upgrade much since I believe this is as good as it is going to get, but I'm not impressed with the newer stuff out there and this gives me the ability to wait for the next generation of tech. Thanks, Timmy Joe!
Exactly...if you already have a solid motherboard and the DDR3, the E5-1680V2 is still a great CPU for most productivity and entertainment needs around the home. I bought one for $155. An upgrade from the E5-1650V2, which I had purchased locally 6+ months ago for $62. Mine is installed on an ASUS P9X79 Pro that I had also purchased locally...it came in its original box with all of the paperwork and accessories. Mint. Price... ... ...$20. That price is not a typo. Still pinching myself on that deal.
By the way, nvme is possible with Intel 750 series on X79 and all newer USB ports are available through PCIe expansions. You shouldn't look at this video as the best platform to go for but rather the best to go for on this platform.
☺ theres some channels in south america, in spanish and portugese, they r saying new computer parts are crazy expensive because of their governments import tax on new tech, this build is great for them because they say its aprox 35% the cost of a similiar ryzen or coffeelake build, so it depends where u live, utube videos are watched all ovr the world which is neat
I have a brandnew in box unused Asus x79 Sabertooth i had as a backup board. Just looking for a working cpu to pair with it but cpu prices seem to be going up :(
Luke Davies I won’t completely agree. I have an X58A system I am using now. It does very well even in 2019. With dual X5680 6 Core CPUs and 48 GB of RAM, I am able to fly thru 4k workflows and render times are very respectable. Would you mind telling me why it’s not a viable platform now? Thank you.
I think he was talking more about people like me who use an x58 W3690 as daily driver / budget gamer... at this point there's better options for poor guys like me.
This is a hard one since comparing 2000$ cpu/mobo combo with latest 500$ amd combo is for different consumers, if they bought this for 3d rendering originally then they probably upgraded to something new anyway. Its nice if you have it still working today and use it mainly for gaming but its not worth going over new amd ryzen platform.
glasses look cute, just bought a e5-2690 v1 for my personal rig, and accidentally got shipped 256gbs of ddr3 ecc ram, so if you need some hml ill hook a brother up 😘
Nice, been waiting your review about x79, If you didn't know, huanan x79 which goes for 100$ have overclock ability after flashing bios, one of most popular cpu on it is e5 1650 v1 or v2, they also go for around 100$ and can be overclocked on that board to 4.2ghz and i saw 16gb ddr3 ecc memory kit on aliexpress for 75$. So whole combo would cost around 250-300$
Did you modify the UEFI and add NVMe support? You can do it easily on ASUS X79 motherboards (I done it for my P9X79 PRO now bootable with Samsung 960 M.2) All Unlocked Xeon processors: Bloomfield: W3565 (source) W3570 (source) W3580 (uncertain) Gulftown: W3680 W3690 Gainestown: W5580 (source) W5590 (uncertain) Sandy Bridge-EP: E5-1620 (max CPU multiplier is 43, just like the i7-3820) E5-1650 E5-1660 Ivy Bridge-EP: E5-1620 v2 (uncertain) E5-1650 v2 E5-1660 v2 E5-1680 v2 Haswell-EP: E5-1650 v3 E5-1660 v3 E5-1680 v3
Just a heads up. Might get a little stutter versus the 4 core and unders due to Ring Bus. Gets more noticeable over 10 cores in gaming. That's Intel's current hurdle.
Got i7 4930k, msi x79a-gd45 plus and 16gb ripjaws x 1600mhz for like 290$. Im pairing them with a 1060 6gb now i need a good air cooler and a case. I might consider e5-2680 v2 one day if its that good really
I'm running the EVGA X79 DARK, I7-4820k@4.7 (Soon to be an E5-1680 V2), 32GB (8x4GB DDR3 QC 2133) Dominator (Soon to be 64GB 2400), GTX 1080FE w/EKWB-FC (Soon to be two), all in a large custom loop. (See avatar pic) The nice thing about the LGA2011(Socket R), is the 40 PCI-e lanes. The 1600 series are unlocked, but the 2600 series are locked. For OCing, the XEON's are very stable, and even the BCLK can be boosted anywhere between 7-14% (Depending on the silicon) 1600 series only support single CPU vs 2600 supporting up to two. EVGA makes the SR-2 which can hold 2 XEONS of the 2011 socket. Though it's based on the C606 chipset. My next two builds are going to be on the X99 and the X299 chipsets. CPU=Central Processor Unit.
if you factor in price, this is a much better deal. Huananzhi x79 - 81 dollars, E5 1680V2 160, 8x4GB DDR3 ECC- 60. Compare that to X470 150 dollars, R7 2700x- 270, 4x8GB DDR4- 150. Performance per dollar gives the intel the win by far. and this setup wont be outdated for a long time. The ryzen is a bad deal anyways. 10600K is same price and faster.
E5-2678V3 (12 Core Hazwell) for US$108 delivered. Coupled with HuuananZhi X99 Gamer TF for another US$111. That's 12 core, 24 thread, full turbo 3.3Ghz (with turbo unlock). Compatible with either DDR3 or DDR4 on this motherboard! This is insane value IMO.
I'll check in with my old R7 1700 @ 4.05ghz and 1080Ti (mild OC 2012mhz as it does throttle in my case on air when benchmarking down to 1987mhz). 16gb ddr4 at 2800 with timings as wide as the Atlantic. Cinebench15 1773 Timespy 10,019 Sadly I will be retiring this workhorse. My wife was one of the winners in the Intel 8086K giveaways. Personally I would have enjoyed the 1700 for another 2-4 years happily. But when given a gift horse....
I have a x79 LGA 2011 board ,after doing some digging I saw the top end chips for my socket were the E5-2697v2 (12 core) and i7-4960X (6 core) and I opted for the 4960x after seeing the higher clocks gave it an edge for my use case I only recently found out the E5-1xxx series had unlocked multipliers How would you say the E5-1680v2 OC compares to the i7-4960X OC?
It's always the board. You can buy (today, mid-2020) an 1900x for about $150 but a board for it will set you back by about $300. A kind of similar issue. Cheap CPU, expensive board. Sure, one can buy Shenzen boards (for the Xeons) at low prices but frankly if you have any issues the RAM process (let's assume it exists and works) will cost a fortune in shipping. Nevertheless, if one can find a deal somewhere, sure, these CPU/mobo pairs can be a good bargain.
Why not use the Intel 7820X desktop proc rather than a Xeon server proc? The Intel 7820X is an 8c/16t @ 3.6GHz/4.5GHz vs the AMD 2700X 8c/16t @ 3.7GHz/4.3GHz. The Intel beats it in all benchmarks.
Can you do another short video to show how you overclocked it? Maybe I didn't catch it and I'll listen again. Also, did you try any of the other E5-1XXX cpu's? I'm looking at an ASrock x79 board because it will accept ECC memory, but on Ebay that E5-1680v2 is about $400!
Yeah I was able to sell my x58 board a couple years ago when I saw a listing for a rampage iv formula x79 for $130 with a 10 core xeon and a 3930k. I sold those cpus to get a 1650 v2 which I've been using since, back then 1680 v2s were still expensive, now there are listing under $100 so I'm considering buying one
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You should review some of the Chinese boards, you may be surprised. Got a E5-1650 to a stable 4ghz. Not saying it's it's the best, far from it, but not exactly terrible for the price point of just under 600 dollars for motherboard, CPU, cooler, ram, GTX 1060 6gb, case and 500gb SSD. Dollar to performance can't really beat that unfortunately.
Better at gaming except minimums apparently which matters. This comes from x79 owner a few of them actually. 3970x on a sabertooth 64gb ram etc. I also have a 3930k,3820. Anyhow it's a great platform especially if you already own it, no reason to really upgrade. However I think there are other things in ryzens favor. Either way I don't think you can go wrong personally.
this MB supports E5-2680 v2 - that is a 10 core,, not a 12 core.. the E5- 2680 v3 is a 12 core.. cpuupgrade.com said that E5-2680 v2 ,the 10 core is supported.. does not say the 12 core is supported.. No More Evil.. Fix it !!
i believe you have ecc ram mixed up with registered/buffered ram. all motherboards (except those requiring reg/buff ram) will run with ecc ram installed without any issues. if the motherboard does not support ecc, it'll see the ram as being non-ecc. and there really isn't much of a price difference between ecc and non-ecc ram. however, there is a HUGE difference in price between registered ram and non-registered ram. but x79 will not run registered memory...f.u. intel :P
Well i got a mainboard combo with 32gb of ecc and a 240gb intell ssd for 250 bucks with an asus p9x79 ws and a e5 1680 4c8t sooo definetly cheaper than ryzen :DD
Timmy I am from australia cannot seem to find anyone selling the e5-1680v2. I would like to upgrade my 4820k potato. Could you link me where to pick one up from
Hmmm I can get this mobo and an i7 3930k plus an aio and case for $240, maybe less, I wonder if is worth it? I have no problem gaming on my current system but I think I might want to start streaming a little and I know that won't fly on my current system.
i have both X79 and X58 and both are amazing chipsets. they are the reason why up until 2 years ago, they have been still relevant. cpu's only went up in performance a few percentages through the last 12 years. only until the last two years or so have we had some leaps in performance. the prices for x79 and x58 cpu's are super low now adays and you can build a top notch system (add pci express m.2 cards) and do quite well vs the newer systems these days. my x58 cpu is a better work horse than my intel 6600k. overclocking is a bit more complicated on these plt's but not to terribly difficult if you know what your doing. check out Tech Yes City on youtube for some more x58 videos.
I also have X58 and x79 systems, Asus p6t deluxe v2, Asus P6X58D-E, Asus Sabertooth X58 all with x5675's and a Asus Rampage iv Formula with an I7 3930k, waiting for the price of the e5 1680v2 to drop😎
sburns015 🤓 why the 5675 instead of the 5690, is it not worth it? Also someone uploaded an HP Z workstation build it wouldnt boot with 5690 so he downgraded to 5675 and now it boots 💻😍
At least you're honest about milking the 10 minute push. I've seen some channels literally blab on about complete irrelevant information, get to that 9:50 mark, tell the information that was in the title, then end the video once they've crossed that golden quad digit line.
Nice VID I get what you are trying to do But my 1700/3.9GHZ did 1740 in CB, That's a Big difference from 1650 CB score You just Got, and my 2700X does 1808 CB stock.. LOl.. SO I get the Kinda in the title..
Cinebench isn't everything, while it's a good indication of raw performance without AVX it doesn't necessarily reflect performance in other applications, especially applications that take advantage of AVX and even applications that don't as shown in the 3dmark results.
Funny thing is, this is the same xeon that is used in that stupid trash can pro computer that tim cook think its innovative. For a significant ammount of price with inferior peformance.
If you want overclocking you have to go with E5-1xxx series. I should have known and explained in this episode that the e5-2xxx series is locked only BLCK overclocking which will be limited. Sorry for the confusion, I will keep researching
Thanks again for making this video man, it really got my gears turning.
Stop this nonsense please... in no way is this "better for gaming" higher fps does not mean a better game play experience at all. Just look at your minimum fps the ryzen kills this cpu every game. I think its fun to see this content but dont lie to people about what is better man..
Actually there is another thing entirely that matters more than anything to do with frames, and this platform would kill even modern Intel at it. It's harder to quantify though, but it is possible. This system is going to be more "responsive" than Ryzen or 8th gen Intel. 7th gen might match it, but even that is debatable because it still uses DDR4. DDR3 is way more responsive than DDR4.
That makes no sense at all. Realistically, you would want better frame times and high FPS, and the Ryzen destroys in frametimes
im still rocking a 3930k, the best cpu's for this platform are 1650(v2) 1680(v2) 2690v2 (u can overclock the 2690v2 its a 10 core and cheaper but only to like 4.4-4.5 ghz)
that moment you find a x79 board for 65$ and a cpu for 50$ and already have 64GB of ram layin' around... this is going to be fun.
Bought whole pc for 60€ and it had lga2011 (asus p9x79) mobo in it. Threw my extra lga1366 mobo in it and I'm goig to sell it and keep that lga2011 for myself for free.
Let's not forget Ryzen has forward compatibility with the AM4 socket, which is nice.
Jerome Ley 😊 yes but this is a video on outdated discontinued hardware
MrSammy so? Im not saying he shouldnt have made the video, i think its a great video
Jerome Ley 🙂 ok bro, yay Keep It Old School ✌😍🚩🏰
X79 uses DDR3 which can be bought used for much cheaper than DDR4. Anandtech did a test a while back which showed that, while the higher clock speeds of the DDR4 RAM will yield you a higher max fps, the lower CAS latency of the DDR3 RAM would yield you a higher minimum fps. With a Rampage IV Extreme motherboard there's a modded BIOS that lets you use M.2 drives as well so with the current cost of RAM and the lower CPU latency with a ring-bus as compared to infinity fabric or Intel's new mesh there's many reasons for still going the X79-route.
@@Daffmeister187 🤓 yes i agree, some game benchmarks on youtube show ddr3 running close to ddr4, depends on the game, yeah i like intel and ddr3 stuff, i wouldnt mind building an x79 one of these days 😎🏠
A mostly eBay system I built last year (with the exception of the graphics card which was purchased on FB marketplace)
- thinkstation s30 X79 mobo $100
- Xeon E5 2690 8c 3.8g turbo $125
- GTX 1060 3gb $125
- 32gb ECC ram $60
- Master case $50
- hyper 212 (new egg gift w/ case)
- 256gb ssd $50
- 2tb hdd $25
1300 cinebench score for $535
paul Z I got my 2690 for £118
Mono for £100
16gb £0
Nzxt case £45, cost £145 brand new
Evga 1300g2 gold PSU £115
CORSAIR K70 lux red with mouse £70
Dell 2k monitor ultra wide FREE -Used £200
Lil late but I got my mobo, 16gb ram, e2690 all for £90 on AliExpress,a 550w gold PSU,case,1tb HDD all for £35 and my friend sold me his 1060 6gb for £110 and then I put it together myself. Not bad for about £250
The reason why u see is Intel CPU has not improved much since 2012. Also, that CPU still use Ring Bus. Try taking a 7820X and compare that too. Watch the old CPU win lol.
I have this motherboard with a 3930k and it hits 5Ghz easy. Might try a Xeon if I can find one at a reasonable price. I'm sure these aren't pure 22 phases as there are no 22 phase voltage controllers some sort of doubling must be going on.
Nice new glasses 😘
my x79 build recently died out of no where. turned off one night, never booted up again :(
this is one of the main drawbacks going with old platform/mobo. You never know what you are getting and once it or if it breaks its hard to get another one.
yea now it just sits in a box and i don't know if i should revive it or sell it
@@paperboy725 what cpu do you have?
@@h1tzzYT The same thing can happen at any time with any motherboard, no matter the age.
@@magburner Obviously chances are much much much lesser than old mobo besides you can always rma it.
The conclusions are a bit strange for me. As a gamer for me is much more important the minimal frame rates I can achieve, not the maximum ones. From the tests is visible that Ryzen is giving higher minimum frame rates in all games. Having said that I wont take this XEON rig for gaming....Newer 6 cores I5 CPUs clocked to 5GHz will perform better on lower price.
Meh, I'm proud to say I never bought a new or used i5, I learned my lesson with Intel consumer cpu's when I bought the Pentium 4.
@@mikem9536and what's your point? The Pentium 4 and any core I series have zero in common besides they are both processors.
Ya know I keep seeing that Mobo, I wish I had one because I'd try and do a really cool miltary ammo box build with it. The chipset heatsink SCREAMS put me in a case like that and give me and io cover with some cammo (plexiglass, Dremel and a heatgun. Paint it) with some noctua fans for a semi desert feel or a offblack, with dark green matching the ammo box styled case. I think Corsair is the one who makes one that's very similar to a ammo box. It's an oldie, but by God it would be gorgeous.
Sorry this board gets me hyper just looking at it.
The case
VENGEANCE® C70 Mid-Tower Gaming Case - Military Green
Dennis Rigdon 😊 Yes Ive seen the Ammo Surplus PC Case that uses latches to latch the side panels, i forgot who makes it but its out there
MrSammy VENGEANCE® C70 Mid-Tower Gaming Case - Military Green
Dennis Rigdon 🤓 ok cool bro thx buddy! yay Corsair C70 Vengeance!✌😍🚩
Dennis Rigdon Corsair Vengeance C70 military green. City I live n guy has one on Craigslist for $40 brand new. Crazy I just spoke with him. I think I might get it. I might be n love. Its something different you know.
Just for anyone considering this CPU, the difference between 4.4 and 4.6 Ghz is minuscule in cinebench, just in case some of you can't reach 4.6. I have a Noctua air cooler and could only make 4.4 Ghz but the performance is just as good for gaming.
I have been thinking of building an X79 for MONTHS, it was fairly evident to me that Ryzen isn't that far off architecturally from Sandy/Ivy. So yeah this is useful.
Hope you didn't blow a bundle on an x79 build with ryzen 3000 so close to launch.
love this guy! great video
9:05 You can use M.2 drives on X79 with a modded BIOS, there's some modded BIOS'es out already, and it's possible to do it yourself fairly straight-forward following instructions.
no its not easy and not lots of boards can like mine
i know this is old but you can use NVMe m2 on x58 as well with an adapter card and a program called ReFind as a boot drive. I run a X58 Sabertooth and have been using it for a boot drive since NVMe's came out.. You used to have to write the Tiano Core wrapper your self for the Bios but now its stupid easy with Refind.. It's literally plug and play usb drive that you make on another PC. Also it will work on any platform.
you recommend 2680 v2 and 2697 v2 and compare them to ryzen and threadripper but keep in mind 26xx xeons are multi locked and can not be oced, so you will not get any extra performance from them unlike your 1680 v2
You *can* OC a CPU without a multiplier, it's just a bit harder and you won't be able to push it as far.
@@Luredreier How?
JB6789 you can put it in a motherboard that supports BCLK overclocking and voltage adjustment or using high load line calibration. I’ve seen stable base clocks of 114 on e5 v2 xeons.
That processor is hard to come by, and is one of the few X79 Xeons you can overclock.
it costs as much as a 5960x does now-a-days.
I don't think Ryzen platforms will last longer. For example As I remember first Socket 775 platforms supported DDR2 400 mhz , last ones supported DDR3 1600Mhz. You could I theory run some oldest s775 processors in some newest s775 motherboards, but not the other way round. Now Rynen second generation was introduced and it supports fasted DDR4, by the time a 3rd generation will be introduced some motherboards will probably will not be able to support recommended memory types and they will seriously limit the power of new CPU's. You will end up replacing motherboard for full experience.
The only thing I hate about Intel's strategy to replace socket type every two years is that it is f...ing misleading.. They introduced i7-8700K on a socket 1151, but it if fully incompatible with previous platforms using socket 1151, and those are incompatible with with even earlier socket 1151 platforms. And the Xeon's ... Some motherboard supports some, some supports none. You have be a f...ing computer guru to build Intel platform from used parts.
On an AMD side you have nice and easy way of continuously upgrading your platform, you replace CPU, then you can replace your motherboard, then you may replace your CPU again, install bigger, faster memories, etc. Everything should work will everything. The only thing you can screw up is pairing newer CPU with older motherboard that has no BIOS updated to support it. You are not toasted yet, all you have to do is to barrow older Ryzen form someone and upgrade your BIOS or pay someone to do it. AMD has even thought about this problem. New motherboards supporting generation 2 Ryzens comes with a special sticker on box. AMD is a much more user friendly with upgrades.
I don't think Intel's strategy to force users to change whole platform with every generation is any beneficial to them and motherboard producers after all. On the one hand It makes upgrading CPU in your old rig obsolete, you will end up with maxed platform that is on the end of it's life anyway. on the other hand how many users are replacing CPU, motherboard and possibly memory every two years?. I think most users postpone their upgrades for another 2 years and replace whole rig at once. Is it generating more sales of Intel's CPUs and motherboards? I don't think so...
🤓 hi joe, can you please make more X58 & X79 videos, i am doubling down on platforms that can reuse DDR3 Memory, i also like that this platform can support 6, 8, 10, 12, or more core cpus, I have also noticed that in the 3rd world they are taking a notice on these platforms as well since they support ddr3 memory and perform better than a regular Sandy Bridge i3, i5, i7 🚤😍🚩
I made my first decent and main/current pc on this, with a 4930K on a X79 sabertooth, been using it over a year with my 1070.
I mean yeah, sure power consumption isn’t amazing, but damn, I were impressed with it once finished building it,
Great content as always dude!
they are a fantastic CPU but between the average price being around 350-450 usd used and another 100-200 usd for a motherboard it is hardly worth it. also i have a X79 system running a E5-2687w and have not upgraded to this chip due to the price.
2700x is barely 7-8 frames behind in average fps and noticeably better for 0.1% and 1% lows.. While the 2700x can do everything this cpu can but in a stock setting. The only advantage for the aging xeon is the ddr3 ecc memory that is dirt cheap.
Eli_Plays 🤓 you forgot to mention the second advantage that u can use Windows 7 64bit Ultimate 😍🚩
A lot of that has to do with the memory speed. At 2666mhz the 1680v2 has much better frametimes.
You also have to remember the 2700x is at 4.3ghz which is quite high, the 1680v2 can run ~4.8ghz pretty easily on a decent loop.
Another thing, most x79 boards do not support registered ECC and have to use unbuffered ECC which is as expensive as standard unbuffered DDR3.
It was literally at its max overclock in this video. The xeon can achieve nothing more.
Just because he wasn't able to get it past 4.65ghz on an AIO doesn't mean that was the max. I run mine at 4.6ghz at 1.3v on a D15, 4.8ghz at 1.4v is stable but the D15 can not keep it under control. Some run it 24/7 at 4.8ghz on a custom loop and it can hit ~5.7ghz under LN2.
I don't disagree that a 2700x is a better choice in general, especially with the prices of the x79 boards. In my case I looked at DDR4 prices and decided against paying $800-1000 for 64gb of decent DDR4 and instead snagged a 1680v2 for $300 and kept my memory (and board).
But there are deals to be had if you keep an eye out, I snagged a few x79 Deluxes for $100-150 last year and paired them with 1660's/1650s ($70-100) overclocked to 4.5-4.8ghz (all D15's) and 16gb of 2400mhz and threw some 1080's in them (also snagged on sale last year for $400 ea), they do just as well as the 1680v2 in games. But of course there is a risk and I'd always recommend someone looking for a primary build to buy something with warranties, etc.
MrSammy Thats only easier to do on x58, you need to integrate ryzen drivers to windows 7 before install.
make a video with the 12 core xeon
Nah they're not killing anything in 2018, look what a used B350 + R7 1700 + 16gb of ram costs on Craigslist, eBay. About the same or less, depends on what x79 mainboard and xeon you would go for. Plus the much lower power consumption, newer plattform, warranty, you name it.
Ryzen + mobo is less than a X79 platform, but DDR4 is more expensive (two to three times). Unless you need >32 GB of RAM, Ryzen is better value for the most part, since it is more efficient and has an upgrade path still.
Count of ddr4 was in MSRP cuz it's not AMD's or intels fault for that
Was geht sie das an?
When you buy all parts used, it still costs less, including 16gbs of DDR4.
If u wanna buy x79 (or x58) u shouldn’t buy it on eBay but locally like craigslist or something... those old eBay mobo are way overpriced, I bought mine for 50€ at 2km from my house!
Good luck with used things that might fail anyday from eBay
I have a X79 with Xeon E5 2680 V2 10 Core system which can beat my Ryzen 1700 system in Cinebench at Stock but a with slight Over Clock the Ryzen system kicks butt and yes the Xeon E5 2680 V2 is a power hog... but still a nice system. X79 system built for stability no overclocking and using ECC Quad Channel Memory 10 Cores and 20 Threads of goodness, also with Nvme PCIe x4 PM961 128GB SSD Boot Drive and RAID 1 Seagate Drives for Data storage. Yes I'm using Huanan X79 Deluxe Chinese Motherboard which has been running for 12 months continuously without any issues and I don't need to overclock or wish to as long term stability is more important to me.
I just got given an x79 gigabyte board... got an i7 3930k from a mate for $120 AUD, 32gb DDR3 that I already had and picked up an ex-mining RX480 for $220 AUD.
so for what cost me $340 AUD I got 4.7GHz 6 core 12 thread with an RX480
He forget about quad channel memory ! It's not slower by much than the ddr4 !
Killian Flohic 🙂 rite, Digital Foundry and a few other channels showed this
quad ddr3 2133/2400 = faster than most ddr4 dual
🤓 Its ok, it doesnt have to be better than ryzen, what really matters is that with this platform you can reuse your old ddr3 memory and u can keep using Windows 7 64bit so yeah Keep It Old School! 🚤✌😍🚩
Even now in 2022, these old x79 systems can still be built to be a very affordable and relevant system if you play your cards right. If you already have a high end x79 board laying around from an old computer and the RAM, you can grab a 1680v2 or any of the other Xeons of the time for $100-200 and have a very good 1080p gaming system. Some of the boards even have BIOS's online on various forums that add support for booting from an M.2 SSD for a massive performance jump on I/O; a PCIE to M.2 adapter will work in any PCI 3.0 complaint system, but the BIOS has to support booting from that, but worst case you throw a cheap SATA SSD in for your OS and load everything else on an M.2. But yeh the combination of quad channel RAM that was insanely OP when it came out in 2013, combined with old unlocked Xeons has allowed this platform to remain capable and relevant WAY longer than it was ever intended to. I definitely wouldn't dump a ton of money into an old system like this, but if you have your old RAM and mobo laying around from an old build, or youi can get those parts cheap, it can be very much worth doing instead of dropping $2000 on a brand new system.
I just upgraded a fx-8350 system to x79 sabertooth w/ 3930k....best decision ever. might have to jump to the xeon though
You talk 2 much bruh... I mean it's good test but u are talking and talking things... i get bored in 1/3 clip and i just check benchmarks result, write that comment and do something else xD
I have a Xeon E5-2618L-v3 turbo upto 3.4Ghz 8 cores 16 threads 40 pci lanes ebay special Oct 2016 $250 in a ASRock X99 Taichi with 32GB DDR4 and a 1070. i was lucky to get my DDR4 ram and GPU in April 2017 before the price spike. each kit of ram would be $100 more to buy it today
The temps will hit the wall on the VRM's, take a thermal cam and look at it. Tech Yes City showed that without active cooling on the vrm they'll go over 90 degrees Celsius
I think the gaming results make sense in all honesty because even though ryzen has Broadwell IPC it performs more like Haswell in terms of gaming performance and with a Sandy Bridge processor overclocked like that comes pretty close to being that kind of performance
I still have my tried and true i7-3930k but finding a decent x79 board is not easy. Very expensive used right now! My Sabertooth died on me.
I joined this party a little late. I have a sabertooth x79 and I would have retired it for next to nothing if not for videos like these. Instead, I bought an e1680.v2, and treated myself to a MSI 1080ti 11g and I'm thrilled. Now I know the cons are that I lost the ability to upgrade much since I believe this is as good as it is going to get, but I'm not impressed with the newer stuff out there and this gives me the ability to wait for the next generation of tech. Thanks, Timmy Joe!
Exactly...if you already have a solid motherboard and the DDR3, the E5-1680V2 is still a great CPU for most productivity and entertainment needs around the home. I bought one for $155. An upgrade from the E5-1650V2, which I had purchased locally 6+ months ago for $62. Mine is installed on an ASUS P9X79 Pro that I had also purchased locally...it came in its original box with all of the paperwork and accessories. Mint. Price... ... ...$20. That price is not a typo. Still pinching myself on that deal.
Those old Xeons are still quite a viable CPU. Ryzen is also very good. It goes to show that you don't need the newest thing to get amazing performance
By the way, nvme is possible with Intel 750 series on X79 and all newer USB ports are available through PCIe expansions. You shouldn't look at this video as the best platform to go for but rather the best to go for on this platform.
thats wrong most 79 boards cant
☺ theres some channels in south america, in spanish and portugese, they r saying new computer parts are crazy expensive because of their governments import tax on new tech, this build is great for them because they say its aprox 35% the cost of a similiar ryzen or coffeelake build, so it depends where u live, utube videos are watched all ovr the world which is neat
Also a reason Linux is quietly taking over, I myself am running Linux on a x58 Workstation and it still trucks along just fine.
I have a brandnew in box unused Asus x79 Sabertooth i had as a backup board. Just looking for a working cpu to pair with it but cpu prices seem to be going up :(
Ryzen 3000 will fix that.
Cool but too expensive. X58 or socket H builds will do the job OC'd. I love you server to gaming hacks, regardless
cons outway the pros for this, if you are already on the platform it's decent. Otherwise, the cost is stupid considering the lack of warranty.
Luke Davies I won’t completely agree. I have an X58A system I am using now. It does very well even in 2019. With dual X5680 6 Core CPUs and 48 GB of RAM, I am able to fly thru 4k workflows and render times are very respectable. Would you mind telling me why it’s not a viable platform now? Thank you.
I think he was talking more about people like me who use an x58 W3690 as daily driver / budget gamer... at this point there's better options for poor guys like me.
Mike M Gotcha! Okay, in that sense I definitely agree. You all would fare better with newer architecture. Especially, with modern GPUs.
the xeon is probably beating the ryzen in games because of the quad channel ddr3
My 3930k @ 4.6 ghz beats my 1600@ 4 ghz so yeah if you can get x79 cheap Defs do
We Savage 😍 yay Xeon 😍
This is a hard one since comparing 2000$ cpu/mobo combo with latest 500$ amd combo is for different consumers, if they bought this for 3d rendering originally then they probably upgraded to something new anyway. Its nice if you have it still working today and use it mainly for gaming but its not worth going over new amd ryzen platform.
lol 180w thats what my 1950x draws at full power
That CPU was about $2000,- new , The Ryzen new 90% less :-)
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Timmy joe reviews anything that moves he also humps it jk boom love your content lol
glasses look cute, just bought a e5-2690 v1 for my personal rig, and accidentally got shipped 256gbs of ddr3 ecc ram, so if you need some hml ill hook a brother up 😘
Nice, been waiting your review about x79, If you didn't know, huanan x79 which goes for 100$ have overclock ability after flashing bios, one of most popular cpu on it is e5 1650 v1 or v2, they also go for around 100$ and can be overclocked on that board to 4.2ghz and i saw 16gb ddr3 ecc memory kit on aliexpress for 75$. So whole combo would cost around 250-300$
i thought about snagging that until i saw all the horror stories about those motherboards online
biggest problem would be VRM cooling on them
$60 3930k, $150 MOBO $75 16GB DDR3
3930k for $60? Where?
www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=3930k&_sacat=0&_sop=15&LH_BIN=1
missed it
Dealhunting I guess, normally dont pay listing prices if youre gonna go used but be watchful for scams tho
Grant Gibson I can beat that: 100$ ASRock x79 Extreme9, 55$ 3930k and 60$ for 16GB DDR3.
OH, we can send you old parts. I may just need to subscribe now. (:
everything is better than ryzen
Did you modify the UEFI and add NVMe support?
You can do it easily on ASUS X79 motherboards (I done it for my P9X79 PRO now bootable with Samsung 960 M.2)
All Unlocked Xeon processors:
Bloomfield:
W3565 (source)
W3570 (source)
W3580 (uncertain)
Gulftown:
W3680
W3690
Gainestown:
W5580 (source)
W5590 (uncertain)
Sandy Bridge-EP:
E5-1620 (max CPU multiplier is 43, just like the i7-3820)
E5-1650
E5-1660
Ivy Bridge-EP:
E5-1620 v2 (uncertain)
E5-1650 v2
E5-1660 v2
E5-1680 v2
Haswell-EP:
E5-1650 v3
E5-1660 v3
E5-1680 v3
a clip for a heat sink...nice
would love to see an x58 vs x79 vs x99 showdown to see which xeon cpu is best value to performance type thingys
Rebel Without A Clue 🤓 both 58 & 79 are good, the x99 is no good because it needs ddr4 memory
@@MrSamadolfo x58 is just about done, but x79 and it's quad channel ram have another 5 years left in it.
@@mikem9536 😃 okedoke
Just a heads up. Might get a little stutter versus the 4 core and unders due to Ring Bus. Gets more noticeable over 10 cores in gaming. That's Intel's current hurdle.
Got i7 4930k, msi x79a-gd45 plus and 16gb ripjaws x 1600mhz for like 290$. Im pairing them with a 1060 6gb now i need a good air cooler and a case. I might consider e5-2680 v2 one day if its that good really
Good luck finding a good board a used 24/7 cpu from eBay and a strong pay for that oven newer technology always better :)
im just upgrading to x99 from x79 (asrock x79 extreme 9 and 4930k) but the board is still worth £220 and £60 for the cpu
You're living in the past. Moore's Law is dead!
any chance you're selling that board?
Ryzen's AVX instructions performance is still half of those of Intel's CPUs.
That's why they're bit lagging behind Intel's at gaming benchies.
Cmon guys! Why are we still stuck at 56k subs? Timmy Joe 100k subs FTW!
Angelo Zach lol. It's just RUclips right now. It's slow summer and videos aren't being recommended like.normal. I'll figure it out
Angelo Zach thanks though you're awesome :)
I HAVE X79 MOTHER BOARD THAT IM USING RIGHT NOW BUT I DO NOT KNOW IF WHAT GAMING GRAPHIC CARD COMAPTIBLE FOR THAT BECAUSE I NEED 8 GB GRAPHIC CARD .
I'm running the EVGA X79 DARK, I7-4820k@4.7 (Soon to be an E5-1680 V2), 32GB (8x4GB DDR3 QC 2133) Dominator (Soon to be 64GB 2400), GTX 1080FE w/EKWB-FC (Soon to be two), all in a large custom loop. (See avatar pic) The nice thing about the LGA2011(Socket R), is the 40 PCI-e lanes.
The 1600 series are unlocked, but the 2600 series are locked. For OCing, the XEON's are very stable, and even the BCLK can be boosted anywhere between 7-14% (Depending on the silicon) 1600 series only support single CPU vs 2600 supporting up to two.
EVGA makes the SR-2 which can hold 2 XEONS of the 2011 socket. Though it's based on the C606 chipset.
My next two builds are going to be on the X99 and the X299 chipsets.
CPU=Central Processor Unit.
if you factor in price, this is a much better deal. Huananzhi x79 - 81 dollars, E5 1680V2 160, 8x4GB DDR3 ECC- 60. Compare that to X470 150 dollars, R7 2700x- 270, 4x8GB DDR4- 150. Performance per dollar gives the intel the win by far. and this setup wont be outdated for a long time. The ryzen is a bad deal anyways. 10600K is same price and faster.
E5-2678V3 (12 Core Hazwell) for US$108 delivered. Coupled with HuuananZhi X99 Gamer TF for another US$111. That's 12 core, 24 thread, full turbo 3.3Ghz (with turbo unlock). Compatible with either DDR3 or DDR4 on this motherboard! This is insane value IMO.
I'll check in with my old R7 1700 @ 4.05ghz and 1080Ti (mild OC 2012mhz as it does throttle in my case on air when benchmarking down to 1987mhz). 16gb ddr4 at 2800 with timings as wide as the Atlantic.
Cinebench15 1773
Timespy 10,019
Sadly I will be retiring this workhorse. My wife was one of the winners in the Intel 8086K giveaways. Personally I would have enjoyed the 1700 for another 2-4 years happily. But when given a gift horse....
I have a x79 LGA 2011 board ,after doing some digging I saw the top end chips for my socket were the E5-2697v2 (12 core) and i7-4960X (6 core) and I opted for the 4960x after seeing the higher clocks gave it an edge for my use case
I only recently found out the E5-1xxx series had unlocked multipliers
How would you say the E5-1680v2 OC compares to the i7-4960X OC?
It's always the board. You can buy (today, mid-2020) an 1900x for about $150 but a board for it will set you back by about $300. A kind of similar issue. Cheap CPU, expensive board. Sure, one can buy Shenzen boards (for the Xeons) at low prices but frankly if you have any issues the RAM process (let's assume it exists and works) will cost a fortune in shipping. Nevertheless, if one can find a deal somewhere, sure, these CPU/mobo pairs can be a good bargain.
I got a 1709 in Cinebench with my Xeon E5 1680 v2, using my daily overclock! That's at 4.8GHz and DDR3-2360. Super fun platform!!!
Why not use the Intel 7820X desktop proc rather than a Xeon server proc? The Intel 7820X is an 8c/16t @ 3.6GHz/4.5GHz vs the AMD 2700X 8c/16t @ 3.7GHz/4.3GHz. The Intel beats it in all benchmarks.
Can you do another short video to show how you overclocked it? Maybe I didn't catch it and I'll listen again. Also, did you try any of the other E5-1XXX cpu's? I'm looking at an ASrock x79 board because it will accept ECC memory, but on Ebay that E5-1680v2 is about $400!
Yeah I was able to sell my x58 board a couple years ago when I saw a listing for a rampage iv formula x79 for $130 with a 10 core xeon and a 3930k. I sold those cpus to get a 1650 v2 which I've been using since, back then 1680 v2s were still expensive, now there are listing under $100 so I'm considering buying one
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You should review some of the Chinese boards, you may be surprised. Got a E5-1650 to a stable 4ghz. Not saying it's it's the best, far from it, but not exactly terrible for the price point of just under 600 dollars for motherboard, CPU, cooler, ram, GTX 1060 6gb, case and 500gb SSD. Dollar to performance can't really beat that unfortunately.
Better at gaming except minimums apparently which matters. This comes from x79 owner a few of them actually. 3970x on a sabertooth 64gb ram etc. I also have a 3930k,3820. Anyhow it's a great platform especially if you already own it, no reason to really upgrade. However I think there are other things in ryzens favor. Either way I don't think you can go wrong personally.
My name is Dennis, but glad ya got benchmarks XD
There's a few tests out there showing the quad channel ram these supported is better than dual channel even for gaming.
this MB supports E5-2680 v2 - that is a 10 core,, not a 12 core.. the E5- 2680 v3 is a 12 core.. cpuupgrade.com said that E5-2680 v2 ,the 10 core is supported.. does not say the 12 core is supported.. No More Evil.. Fix it !!
i believe you have ecc ram mixed up with registered/buffered ram. all motherboards (except those requiring reg/buff ram) will run with ecc ram installed without any issues. if the motherboard does not support ecc, it'll see the ram as being non-ecc. and there really isn't much of a price difference between ecc and non-ecc ram. however, there is a HUGE difference in price between registered ram and non-registered ram. but x79 will not run registered memory...f.u. intel :P
Well i got a mainboard combo with 32gb of ecc and a 240gb intell ssd for 250 bucks with an asus p9x79 ws and a e5 1680 4c8t sooo definetly cheaper than ryzen :DD
Got this week an Asus Intel X79 P9X79 with a i7 3820, Zalman CNPS9900 Led for combined 150 euro's. Always loved the 2011 boards.
JimmyToe and COMPUTER PARTS WOO!
yeah i got an x79 ud5 and a 1680v2 with 32gb ram for$400 aud which over clocks well and the same spec on ryzen would cost over $600AUD
Timmy I am from australia cannot seem to find anyone selling the e5-1680v2. I would like to upgrade my 4820k potato. Could you link me where to pick one up from
Hmmm I can get this mobo and an i7 3930k plus an aio and case for $240, maybe less, I wonder if is worth it? I have no problem gaming on my current system but I think I might want to start streaming a little and I know that won't fly on my current system.
i have both X79 and X58 and both are amazing chipsets. they are the reason why up until 2 years ago, they have been still relevant. cpu's only went up in performance a few percentages through the last 12 years. only until the last two years or so have we had some leaps in performance.
the prices for x79 and x58 cpu's are super low now adays and you can build a top notch system (add pci express m.2 cards) and do quite well vs the newer systems these days.
my x58 cpu is a better work horse than my intel 6600k.
overclocking is a bit more complicated on these plt's but not to terribly difficult if you know what your doing. check out Tech Yes City on youtube for some more x58 videos.
Tactical Center 🤓 ok thx
I also have X58 and x79 systems, Asus p6t deluxe v2, Asus P6X58D-E, Asus Sabertooth X58 all with x5675's and a Asus Rampage iv Formula with an I7 3930k, waiting for the price of the e5 1680v2 to drop😎
sburns015 🤓 why the 5675 instead of the 5690, is it not worth it? Also someone uploaded an HP Z workstation build it wouldnt boot with 5690 so he downgraded to 5675 and now it boots 💻😍
MrSammy it was cheaper at the time and still a good overclocked, got 4.6ghz out of it
sburns015 🤓 4.6 is really good bro, maybe the Westmere 5690 wouldnt make any difference if your going to use a Noctua Air Cooler, what do u think? 💻🕹😍
I got a E5 2680v2 @103,3 BCLK and it works well for all my needs, might bottleneck the 1080 in games but oh well...
E5-1680V2 eBay price (06APR2020): $155.00 plus shipping.
8C/16T 4.6Ghz....now THAT is a deal.
Frame times and min frames are slightly worse on intel I’d say neck and neck at those numbers good video though
Rampage IV Extreme and a few similar Asus X79 boards can use NVME with a custom bios and PCIe to M.2 cards
At least you're honest about milking the 10 minute push. I've seen some channels literally blab on about complete irrelevant information, get to that 9:50 mark, tell the information that was in the title, then end the video once they've crossed that golden quad digit line.
jajajaj yeah the cheapest I can get is for $900usd, with that I can build a ryzen 5 2600x pc, it doesn't worth it
Interesting subject. Couldn’t focus on what you are saying because of your style of presentation. And jumping from one thing to another.
But if you wanted something old cheap and just as good as ryzen in games isn't the 2600k a better more reliable option?
Hi sir tnxs for your detailed video pls help me i have an e7 4890 v2 processor may i know what motherboard is compatible with it
... I think most people interested in old Xeons, aren't trying to OC the piss out of them.
can u please pair this system or another equivalent x79 with a RTX 3090 please (if its available :) )
Nice VID I get what you are trying to do But my 1700/3.9GHZ did 1740 in CB, That's a Big difference from 1650 CB score You just Got, and my 2700X does 1808 CB stock.. LOl.. SO I get the Kinda in the title..
Cinebench isn't everything, while it's a good indication of raw performance without AVX it doesn't necessarily reflect performance in other applications, especially applications that take advantage of AVX and even applications that don't as shown in the 3dmark results.
😍 yay we also have inbound i9 Ryzen 7 Killer coming soon 🚤😍🚩
No need for all that to be better att gaming then ryzen...the fuck dude....? Most i5 run better then ryzen att gaming....
Funny thing is, this is the same xeon that is used in that stupid trash can pro computer that tim cook think its innovative.
For a significant ammount of price with inferior peformance.