Swap the default M6As with CF-447 pattern repeaters. You'll get better efficiency, and your bullet speed will go to 1800 M/S. If you're flying a vessel that big with that turn speed, start using your gimbals.
@@FriedChickin They got buffed. Cannons got nerfed. Regardless of a nerf, DPS is irrelevant if you can't hit your target. Sustained damage is pretty amazing on quad Rhinos. I'd suggest trying it.
@@FriedChickin tbh, repeaters are now in a fairly good place. Not as much raw dps as M series cannons, but plenty to get the job done, especially vs fighters and smaller craft. Attrition is my go-to rn. Cannon levels of dps but as many rounds as a rhino with current power system tuning. Slower projectile than rhino rn. There is also the advantage of weapon groups. Since the starlancer pilot has four hard points, you could easily put a heavier gun like attrition on one pair and a panther on the other. Or split between ballistic and energy.
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I love the starlancer as a dayly driver , pretty cool , not the best , not the worst , unique in its ways , a ship that i have fallen in love with , pretty great Great vid
Didn't think about it until you mentioned there was no tractor beam. That is really strange considering much smaller ships like the C1 Spirit have a really nice one. Seems like a complete oversight
This is my new favorite ship. I've been flying it in the PTU. I got the sapphire paint for it, but i find myself just flying it with the default steel.
I agree. ““You will ride eternal, shiny and chrome”. And I agree 100% with the review. I’ve said this in other Starlancer reviews…. This ship is actually far more significant than the Polaris as far as new releases. In a month when Polaris fever runs out because of lack of crew you will see these flying with 1-4 for a long time. It just kinda does it all. And the TAC and BLD will be similar. It’s in a slot where it just fits most people’s daily play better than most.
We've been running VHRT in this ship and it's not the worst. They can't kill it. Takes a long while to kill but it works. Gonna try different gun configs. Excellent multirole 3-4 crew ship. I give it top marks.
@FriedChickin Once we get org play, engineering, and true persistence this is going to be one of the best ships in the game for a small crew to live in. Probably the closest to a firefly in the game. Those bunk rooms are insane. Now we need working pool.
@ the ship I really would like to have as a main cargo ship would be the gatac railen I know the store Lancer is peak right now, but I feel the alien ship would be just as good
@FriedChickin I would love to finally see it in the game. I see it more as a comparison to the Hull Series of ships though. In the lore I think that's where the gatac got the idea. I own a merchantman though and I weep constantly about it.
Honestly have to disagree with it being bad for combat if we're discussing PvE. The default weapons suck, yes, but I've been running Deadbolts in their place. The Starlancer's surprising agile for it's size so it's been pretty easy to bring the guns to bear & keep them on target even against smaller ships. The damage output is pretty frightening if you're willing to deal with re-arming.
Played around with the ship for a bit myself and came to the same conclusions. Great ship to have, but no must-buy. I'm looking forward to the BLD version of it, but it will be some time before we see that, I suppose. Great video btw, subscribed.
Yeah, it pretty much replaced my 600 I since I’m able to utilize it’s cargo space easier and it systems. I still love my 600 but I will fly this till the rework finally comes out.
I've always liked the Feelancers and other MISC ships (even the Starfarer, which needs some CIG love), but this ship is amazing! THe habitation area gives me hope for how good the Odyssey can be! How you can load Cargo quickly is nice, and descent firepower for defnce and armor. a bit slow in SCM, but its a freighter, and the Nav speed is okay. I would have prefer to have an additional mag strip for cargo on the rear of the ship, could likely fit a few more 12 or 32 SCU crates there, and let us choose between cargo or vehicles, but we will stuff cargo in there either way (seen people cramming 300 SCU into this ship) so Good ship. I was hoping a bit more cargo, aroudn 350 SCU, but this is fine, and it'll be a good long range hauler when Pyro comes online!
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FC... Imma have to say homey... I have no problems doing pve combat with my max. I actually love it because of how tanky it is. Combat in bigger slower ships takes some experience. Think about this way... This ship is ever so slightly more agile than the Corsair in rotation. Check out the numbers. Cannons are best because your alpha damage is everything on a ship that can't stay on target as long. Although classified as repeaters, try Attrition IV's. When crewed, it was plain too easy. I consider myself average as a pilot. Give it some practice in Arena Commander pirate swarm. Remember, PVE, its good against small/medium targets. Hard hitters with size 5s or HH's would be a problem and requires a lot more patience. Glad you like it, overall. It was love at first concept for me. I got the TAC as well. We crewing up. lol
@@Kakeyoro none of my homies wanted to play ptu so I was out of luck for a full crew. The stock guns are Meh. IMO she rotates fine but strifes slow. I’m not putting this big bird down yet! Or at least till they fix my 600i
Some people are claiming that the Starlancer Max is a better combat ship than not only the post-nerf Corsair, but also the Connie. I called bullshit on that many times, and their only evidence for why was "trust me bro".
After doing some combat tests with it, it’s good for depending itself or support, but that’s about it. People should not use this shit as a complete gun boat that will be reserved for the tac
It is in the same price class of a constellation and the corsair. That's why people compare it. That it has the least fire power of the 3 should be clear by comparing the gun sizes. BUT it is not bad and it has other things going for it, like the cargo, it's size and interior. More modern etc. It performs in the same "league" as a daily driver and if you prefer more cargo and more pleasing looks go the eye than the max is probably a better choice. Also the garage is a huge plus. If you put a rover into a taurus you lose half of your cargo space. In a corsair even more than that. And in a andromeda also pretty much the whole cargo space is gone. In the max you have the garage and can still use the whole cargo area + the sides of the garage. So yeah if you want raw fire power take a constellation, the corsair sits in a very weak spot where not much speaking for it. The other ships have more cargo, shields, hull and are better to manouver. It's not terrible, it just not the best in anything.
@@Durion7 I pretty much agree, although it being the same price as the Corsair and Connie is going to change when it's flight ready. I'm betting the Max price will increase by at least $50.
That's the thing, it's not a fighter ship, it can be used to help the fight but it's not a combat ship period. CIG has been mentioned that the ships coming out are to fit a certain role, and a cargo ship isn't to be used a combat ship, it has weapons to keep it alive long enough for help to arrive. Stop putting the emphasis on the combat part when that's not it's role. Hopefully, since the Starlancer Max has the ramps that the Cat should've had from the beginning, possibly they'll fix that with the Cat now.
Considering they confirmed the Ironclad is in production, one can hope that the Cat will get a small rework to allow for what you want, as well as introduce some of its modularity. Would make sense to do a Cat rework around same time imo.
@@Rhapses what I really hope that they turn on with the iron clad is the detachable command center. The caterpillar also has that, but there’s no guarantee that that’s going to be turned on when the iron clad becomes flyable
With all this quality investment in every video, I can't believe your channel has not passed a thousand subscribers. You are doing a good job . Hope to see more from your RUclips.
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Firstly, I bought this ship, secondly, I don't know why, but I fell in love with its design and those strange cargo elevators on the sides, thirdly, it's its capacity, but I don't understand how this ship can compete with the Taurus, which costs less, it has a little smaller cargo compartment, but the guns are size 5, it's strange to me, I would buy a taurus, but I don't like the Coni design
@@FriedChickin I understand, but still, for the price of 50 bucks lower, you can get a more versatile ship that is good at anything, so it's strange to me
@@HummerPoint I mean, you have to take a consideration for taste some people like other manufacturers versus others just like you said you don’t like constellation design some might. I don’t like the corsair but people love it because it has good fire power to me. It’s just an ugly ship so I won’t fly it
@FriedChickin ... I don't believe the CAT' ever will be "completed". You will soon come to find that the IronClad is its unofficial... and then official replacement.
Loading with the ATLS looks pretty painful. The boxes look like they’re locking, but when you release they hit the underbelly of the ship. But in all, as you said, it looks to be a geeat hauler, like a Freelancer MAX on steroids. Also this review format with your personal take on the ship is awesome, please do more!
@@Pontiuspilotus-jj4wq actually it’s not painful at all. Especially in consideration that cargo crates don’t cause ship damage anymore. It snaps on and off very easily. And I will make more great content for you and my viewers!
So I have a iron cloud I hope that they don’t have bake it just like the caterpillar I used to love the caterpillar. I can’t wait for the detachable cock pit, and when the actual loading bay doors reach the ground when that happens, I will be flying in regularly again. I just have to be patient and I will.
@FriedChickin yeeaah basically every older ship gets left in the bin by CIG... Hopefully they will get back to them sooner than later. (Looking at the sorry state of the Connie for example)
I was the same as you. I hated Freelancers and vowed to never get one but I like the Starlancer. I am not sure I agree that it needs a built in tractor beam for the belly because it takes me under 4 minutes to load 128scu into the belly using a Maxilift. I have yet to even bother using my ATLS because i think any time I save will be negated by the time it takes to get it out and move it into position to start loading then put it away after. Have you times how long it takes you to do that?
I was just saying that it needs a tractor beam because pretty much every other dedicated cargo ship has one the clipper, the nomad, the caterpillar, the cutlass black and I’m sure the railen will have one too
@FriedChickin the terrapin med even got flood lights for the entrance ramp. Ya first thing I'm like oh the side cargo has lights inside. They go to the ground and it's like wow that's dark
@ they have been adjusting the lighting with every patch in the PTU so who knows they might add flood lights before it’s official release they tweaking it maybe make a post on the issue console about it
@ lol to bad it’s not an actual mirror. It’s a monitor. Has a camera. I’ve noticed this is going to become the standard across multiple ships. I seen it being updated in a bunch already
Only i've ever had with misc ships have been the pilot view, the control button layout, mfd layout just over all the entire pilot experience of the misc ships have been GROSS to me so sad to see that hasn't changed but over all it does look like it's awesome I'll prob make it my new main medium boi
They did update the MFD for the star Lancer and I do enjoy it, but I can understand where you’re coming from. Sometimes change is not the best way but we just have to go with it because we can’t tell CIG anything.
@FriedChickin I think the slow movement is what makes it balanced because the zues and Taurus are in the same category with it.. can't have those ships completely less than starlancer in everything 😂
@@emperor_pewpew2903 i was talking more about its base scm speeds its like only 100 my cats scms is almost double that idk if it was like 150-200 id be happy
I did the first 2 save station missions by myself with the starlancer twice and killed around 20 ships quickly. Maybe I'm used to big ships flying the Connie's alot. It was easy and made me happy about this ships combat. Try same missions with Connie and let us know.
Doing ERT’s easily. With big ships like this drop your speed to increase turn speed. 4 S4 is plenty of fire power for any ERT. I can see it struggling against MRT and below because there’s typically smaller faster ships in those bounties.
@@stvi26800 I never actually tried using the refrigerators in the SL so I didn’t know. I wonder if that’s going to be a real gameplay mechanic where you have to keep things fresh and refrigerated in the future or if it’s just the show.
No clue, but can you imagine multicrewing and chilling in your rooms and you could actually store drinks in them and go socialise with the crew, would be nice
Had the Freelancer Max and now this, have to say for Misc industrial line ship it has a lot of wasted space, I would trade the unnecessary Hab area,mess hall and kitchen for cargo space + a compact kitchen area. They could have used the freelancer Max hab/bed for this and it would be just fine. The turret visibility also became a misc line flaw which I don't like. I will upgrade it to a better ship in the future
Which ship is more geared towards role-playing more than anything else it’s a jack of all trades type of shit. It’s good at a bunch of things, but a master at nothing.
@FriedChickin It's just poor design IMO They could have made RP friendly with way less waste of space. Even the corridors going around the rooms are a massive waste, they could have take use of one center corridor instead of 2 going around. There was no need for private WC/shower for each room either They could have taken use of the elevating platforms to access the upper deck for more cargo. It's quite the same scenario with Freelancer Max that has 4 beds with 4 seats and a turret which isn't remote either, marking the 3 other passengers worthless
@ nah I think it’s design is fine. You don’t want every ship to utilize every inch of its space for the purpose It’s built for? you gotta also have fun with the vessel as well. If this thing is just all cargo grids and no fun then people wouldn’t pick it up. The Polaris is a great example huge corridors with nothing inside of them just opened space but players love it because they can have fun with it.
I would say that if you go up against things like Buccaneers then you definitely need turret gunners but against bigger ships like a 600i or Reclaimer I think it will do fine.
It doesn’t matter how many times I see the precision targeting it always makes me sad, the fact that combat was slowed down so much that you can just be zoomed in while you fight is depressing as hell
I already bought a medium cargo ship (Alien - Railen) many years ago, so I'm not buying another ship until they release what I paid for. Also I'm never buying an "In-Concept" ship ever again.
I have that as well and a caterpillar, but that’s not even in the pipeline so it’s going to be years before it even comes to see the light of day and I’m still waiting for the caterpillar rework where they make all the systems, including doors properly work as intended
Ok. That's your opinion. I choose to support the game more than you and get the advantage of buying early and using the CCU method so get it cheaper. I got my Railen for 130 bucks. So while I have to wait a bit, I get a suitable loaner, I actually help the game get finished with donations and I'll get my ships cheaper. Have fun paying for Insurance later!
When you take this ship out, its description designates it as “industrial” this ship isn’t even a designated cargo hauler. I feel that this ship shines with helping salvagers, or miners, or crafters. Yes of course it’s a cargo vessel but offers more than just cargo space. Have to think outside the norm with this one in order to like it.
@@italydude515 so if you place a bunch of itemsin one area. star citizen has a function that will automatically remove items and clutter from a space. This is actually an old update that they implemented back during 3.20. Due to people dropping medical gowns everywhere
after the nerf from 8500 quantum fuel to 3000 many people allready melt it including me, i understand 8500 is a it more but to cut up to 75% i think is very unfair, the best is to buff again 6000-7000 quantum fuel thats is very for ship carco deep space ship. 3000 now is completely joke of the year
@@nuirueu ofcourse why not because on ptu i see only nerfes to starlancer max so why i keep ship only nerfs? if fuel and some of them fixed then i take it again but for now at least for me aand majority of people yes i stay away on this ship, not only the fuel but even scm is terrible , if you see on feedback and on latest patch what all peoples say you smile alot. go and take a look
Thing is if the base model is bad at combat the tac ain't gonna be much better other than the added turrets. Both going to be slow unless they decide to fix that issue. Comon its slower than a capital ships!
@@Tribsu well the max isn’t made for combat. I just got like 80 comments asking me to take into battle so I made a little blurp about it. It’s guns is used to help defend it while someone answers a distress beacon
@@FriedChickin It does not answer the mobility issue at all. The cargo variant running empty should be pretty nimble and then engines powerful engufh to make it go. MSR ain't meant for combat either and yet here we are it can actually fly!
@ I hope you realize that every single ship in the game is not affected by weight when it comes to having cargo or no cargo at all on the vessel it’s not implemented into the game yet so for right now it doesn’t matter at all.
@@FriedChickin Ya I am kinda stuck on what ship to do I was running the Corsair mostly for a ship with 4 size 5 guns (didn't care about the size 4s on the wings) and cargo. I can't sidegrade to the andromeda because you can only upgrade to more expensive ships. If the velocity on the tac version isn't better don't think it's gonna be worth it (was considering it because even though 4 size 4s it has 2 large shields to make you alot tankier than the corsair.) I wish they had just gotten rid of the wing guns OR just downed the gun sizes a bit but kept all guns pilot firable. No one wants to just sit in the co pilot seat hitting fire for 2 guns they can't aim and you lose out on controlling the turret the co pilot is meant to be using when doing so. Very poorly implemented balance change and not a fun implementation for anyone.
@@FriedChickin I am really hoping they change the balancing to be something more fun. I don't care if they nerf the guns a bit but removing 2 size 5s from pilot and having it set up in a way that makes it so you can't have them and the turrets if you are fully crewed plus making it not a fun way to play for the copilot is dumb. Downsizing the guns would have been a better way to go about it, it now has less pilot firepower than a constellation while being squishier with a worse flight model.
My main issue with this ship's design is the non-existing ground clearance and the disappearingly small landing gears that look so poorly positioned that it feels that this whale of a ship could fall on its side at the slightest wind gust.
i was going to hold off on power upgrades till after they drop the contestant zones. Cause the good stuff won't be buyable in stores anymore when it drops
I doubt the Starlancer will ever get a tractor beam. All the video shots with it have it being loaded by an Argo ATLS. Immersion is sometimes a thing people want. Que the "but video game" "time sink" comments. But play the way you want. Get the ship that fits that.
Die MFDs fehlen, du bekommst keine Informationen und die unteren Bildschirme sieht man nicht. Ein Tobii habe ich nicht und soviel Geld möchte ich nicht investieren. Wenn die MFDs zurückkommen wird es gekauft, wenn nicht, dann eben nicht. Danke für deine tollen Videos Abo ist raus. Bin nur Enttäuscht wegen den MFDs :(
@@krazyivan007 you think 10hs of gameplay was done just for my channel? 🤣 gtfo my page. nah it benefited my gameplay. My 600i was my go to, but it’s so broken I needed something to replace it. This fits that roll easily. Gameplay first before content buddy.
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Swap the default M6As with CF-447 pattern repeaters. You'll get better efficiency, and your bullet speed will go to 1800 M/S. If you're flying a vessel that big with that turn speed, start using your gimbals.
Rhinos? I thought repeaters got nerfed ? I do run them on my mk2 though
@@FriedChickin They got buffed. Cannons got nerfed. Regardless of a nerf, DPS is irrelevant if you can't hit your target. Sustained damage is pretty amazing on quad Rhinos. I'd suggest trying it.
@@FriedChickin tbh, repeaters are now in a fairly good place. Not as much raw dps as M series cannons, but plenty to get the job done, especially vs fighters and smaller craft. Attrition is my go-to rn. Cannon levels of dps but as many rounds as a rhino with current power system tuning. Slower projectile than rhino rn. There is also the advantage of weapon groups. Since the starlancer pilot has four hard points, you could easily put a heavier gun like attrition on one pair and a panther on the other. Or split between ballistic and energy.
@ ima run it!
@ did cig fix attritions? They used to be my go to but the s3s stopped working
"It can do a lot. It can't do a lot but it is also..." Yes. That is a direct quote from this video. :P
@@b5fan504 🫡🫡🫡 yessir it’s limited but it’s not. It depends on how you play realistically
Reminds me of a quote by comedian Mitch Hedberg (RIP) "I used to drink a lot...I still do, but I used to also."
Hey man, as an up and coming SC creator, you really have what it takes to grow. Great content and video!
@@avalanchepgh6426 appreciate it! I’m really putting my heart into these videos! One of my main goals is to be as cinematic with my video with good accuracy with info. But most importantly to include my community with the way how I make videos via polls and YT discord!
I love the starlancer as a dayly driver , pretty cool , not the best , not the worst , unique in its ways , a ship that i have fallen in love with , pretty great
Great vid
@@Gaporu007 just tried to do a jump in the SL ship is bugged in eptu
TLDR It's what the freelancer was always meant to be.
Have one, and i can fully see me also getting the TAC when it comes out. This might be my new favourite line of ships.
Likewise, I’m debating if I’m going to melt it for the BLD or just buy the BLD outright so I can have both I may upgrade my prospector to it
Didn't think about it until you mentioned there was no tractor beam. That is really strange considering much smaller ships like the C1 Spirit have a really nice one. Seems like a complete oversight
Don’t forget about the caterpillar it has two and the Zeus clipper also has one as well same thing with the cutlass black and nomad
This is my new favorite ship. I've been flying it in the PTU. I got the sapphire paint for it, but i find myself just flying it with the default steel.
you gotta get that yellow paint! its fire
I agree. ““You will ride eternal, shiny and chrome”.
And I agree 100% with the review. I’ve said this in other Starlancer reviews…. This ship is actually far more significant than the Polaris as far as new releases. In a month when Polaris fever runs out because of lack of crew you will see these flying with 1-4 for a long time. It just kinda does it all. And the TAC and BLD will be similar. It’s in a slot where it just fits most people’s daily play better than most.
@FriedChickin The yellow paint looks clean too. I was thinking about also getting the Mojave paint.
@ I got them all. By far the yellow is my favorite
@@FriedChickin I had Sapphire paint and found myself liking the default more. But what color is the bottom of the Mojave? Is it just a dark grey?
We've been running VHRT in this ship and it's not the worst. They can't kill it. Takes a long while to kill but it works. Gonna try different gun configs. Excellent multirole 3-4 crew ship. I give it top marks.
Yeah with a crew it is awesome! Solo is a little annoying but this is one of my fave birds !
@FriedChickin Once we get org play, engineering, and true persistence this is going to be one of the best ships in the game for a small crew to live in. Probably the closest to a firefly in the game. Those bunk rooms are insane. Now we need working pool.
@ the ship I really would like to have as a main cargo ship would be the gatac railen I know the store Lancer is peak right now, but I feel the alien ship would be just as good
@FriedChickin I would love to finally see it in the game. I see it more as a comparison to the Hull Series of ships though. In the lore I think that's where the gatac got the idea. I own a merchantman though and I weep constantly about it.
Honestly have to disagree with it being bad for combat if we're discussing PvE. The default weapons suck, yes, but I've been running Deadbolts in their place. The Starlancer's surprising agile for it's size so it's been pretty easy to bring the guns to bear & keep them on target even against smaller ships. The damage output is pretty frightening if you're willing to deal with re-arming.
Deadbolts are my favourite guns in the game. I put them on everything.
Revenant is way better. More ammo count and slightly less DPS
Space Airstream is a beauty! Great interior as well.
Complaining about phallus shaped ships while you have the sandworm flare mounted on your bed is... sus.
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Played around with the ship for a bit myself and came to the same conclusions. Great ship to have, but no must-buy. I'm looking forward to the BLD version of it, but it will be some time before we see that, I suppose.
Great video btw, subscribed.
Yeah, it pretty much replaced my 600 I since I’m able to utilize it’s cargo space easier and it systems. I still love my 600 but I will fly this till the rework finally comes out.
Ya I’m getting the TAC when it comes out
@@Brandon-bd8fk I have far too many gun ships to pick up another so the cargo ship is a nice addition
@ oh heck ya, the max is an amazing ship, for what it’s made for. Tempting to buy but I need my fury hanger.
Misc ships looks like Star Trek ships to me, and I kinda like it 😅
Man I haven’t seen Star Trek in years but yeah I agree
5:39 when it started growing on you were you looking at the rear engine or the landing gear?
Rear 🤣
I've always liked the Feelancers and other MISC ships (even the Starfarer, which needs some CIG love), but this ship is amazing! THe habitation area gives me hope for how good the Odyssey can be! How you can load Cargo quickly is nice, and descent firepower for defnce and armor. a bit slow in SCM, but its a freighter, and the Nav speed is okay. I would have prefer to have an additional mag strip for cargo on the rear of the ship, could likely fit a few more 12 or 32 SCU crates there, and let us choose between cargo or vehicles, but we will stuff cargo in there either way (seen people cramming 300 SCU into this ship) so Good ship. I was hoping a bit more cargo, aroudn 350 SCU, but this is fine, and it'll be a good long range hauler when Pyro comes online!
i love this channel, you do good work....thank you
@@jasonhannah7483 I appreciate it! I try my best to make good accurate cinematic content for you guys! If you ever have any feedback please let me know so I can improve for you!
FC... Imma have to say homey... I have no problems doing pve combat with my max. I actually love it because of how tanky it is. Combat in bigger slower ships takes some experience. Think about this way... This ship is ever so slightly more agile than the Corsair in rotation. Check out the numbers. Cannons are best because your alpha damage is everything on a ship that can't stay on target as long. Although classified as repeaters, try Attrition IV's.
When crewed, it was plain too easy. I consider myself average as a pilot. Give it some practice in Arena Commander pirate swarm. Remember, PVE, its good against small/medium targets. Hard hitters with size 5s or HH's would be a problem and requires a lot more patience.
Glad you like it, overall. It was love at first concept for me. I got the TAC as well. We crewing up. lol
@@Kakeyoro none of my homies wanted to play ptu so I was out of luck for a full crew. The stock guns are Meh. IMO she rotates fine but strifes slow. I’m not putting this big bird down yet! Or at least till they fix my 600i
I agree, I got through those save stanton missions as easily as a Connie.
@@FriedChickin I got a 600i. We're on the bottom of the priority list. Fly it like I do... Fueled by the salt of your tears.
i got this to then upgrade to the bld! cant wait for that variant
Likewise, I’m very curious on the price point on the BLD
Some people are claiming that the Starlancer Max is a better combat ship than not only the post-nerf Corsair, but also the Connie. I called bullshit on that many times, and their only evidence for why was "trust me bro".
After doing some combat tests with it, it’s good for depending itself or support, but that’s about it. People should not use this shit as a complete gun boat that will be reserved for the tac
It is in the same price class of a constellation and the corsair. That's why people compare it. That it has the least fire power of the 3 should be clear by comparing the gun sizes. BUT it is not bad and it has other things going for it, like the cargo, it's size and interior. More modern etc. It performs in the same "league" as a daily driver and if you prefer more cargo and more pleasing looks go the eye than the max is probably a better choice. Also the garage is a huge plus. If you put a rover into a taurus you lose half of your cargo space. In a corsair even more than that. And in a andromeda also pretty much the whole cargo space is gone. In the max you have the garage and can still use the whole cargo area + the sides of the garage. So yeah if you want raw fire power take a constellation, the corsair sits in a very weak spot where not much speaking for it. The other ships have more cargo, shields, hull and are better to manouver. It's not terrible, it just not the best in anything.
@@Durion7 I pretty much agree, although it being the same price as the Corsair and Connie is going to change when it's flight ready.
I'm betting the Max price will increase by at least $50.
That's the thing, it's not a fighter ship, it can be used to help the fight but it's not a combat ship period. CIG has been mentioned that the ships coming out are to fit a certain role, and a cargo ship isn't to be used a combat ship, it has weapons to keep it alive long enough for help to arrive. Stop putting the emphasis on the combat part when that's not it's role. Hopefully, since the Starlancer Max has the ramps that the Cat should've had from the beginning, possibly they'll fix that with the Cat now.
I know but you have no idea how many people has asked me about its combat capabilities. So I had to throw in a little tid bit about it
Considering they confirmed the Ironclad is in production, one can hope that the Cat will get a small rework to allow for what you want, as well as introduce some of its modularity. Would make sense to do a Cat rework around same time imo.
@@Rhapses what I really hope that they turn on with the iron clad is the detachable command center. The caterpillar also has that, but there’s no guarantee that that’s going to be turned on when the iron clad becomes flyable
With all this quality investment in every video, I can't believe your channel has not passed a thousand subscribers.
You are doing a good job . Hope to see more from your RUclips.
@@Haru-wd8rh it’s a grind! I can say I am en route to getting my first ambassador partnering with tobii so I am excited to continue making high quality content for you guys! But if you have any feed back in what you may want to see in my videos let me know!
Firstly, I bought this ship, secondly, I don't know why, but I fell in love with its design and those strange cargo elevators on the sides, thirdly, it's its capacity, but I don't understand how this ship can compete with the Taurus, which costs less, it has a little smaller cargo compartment, but the guns are size 5, it's strange to me, I would buy a taurus, but I don't like the Coni design
i dont really think of fighting in this thing maybe the tac. this ship just got vibes is all shes not in it for the battle
@@FriedChickin I understand, but still, for the price of 50 bucks lower, you can get a more versatile ship that is good at anything, so it's strange to me
@@HummerPoint I mean, you have to take a consideration for taste some people like other manufacturers versus others just like you said you don’t like constellation design some might. I don’t like the corsair but people love it because it has good fire power to me. It’s just an ugly ship so I won’t fly it
@@FriedChickin Haha,i understand your point,btw corsair is beutiful😁
Taurus can not maintain its cargo capacity when vehicles is parked inside. That's where the Starlancer shines.
I have a Caterpillar but I'm so tempted to melt it for the this.
@@MikeMaker851 naaah don’t melt it! Once the cat is actually completed it will be a public favorite again.
@FriedChickin ... I don't believe the CAT' ever will be "completed". You will soon come to find that the IronClad is its unofficial... and then official replacement.
Loading with the ATLS looks pretty painful. The boxes look like they’re locking, but when you release they hit the underbelly of the ship. But in all, as you said, it looks to be a geeat hauler, like a Freelancer MAX on steroids. Also this review format with your personal take on the ship is awesome, please do more!
@@Pontiuspilotus-jj4wq actually it’s not painful at all. Especially in consideration that cargo crates don’t cause ship damage anymore. It snaps on and off very easily. And I will make more great content for you and my viewers!
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Mojawe Paint is verry Nice
I swear I don’t know why people don’t rock this paint. It’s awesome.
@@AK-lo4bd 👌
I'll stay with the old reliable Cat :) but this is a neat addition to the Misc lineup!
So I have a iron cloud I hope that they don’t have bake it just like the caterpillar I used to love the caterpillar. I can’t wait for the detachable cock pit, and when the actual loading bay doors reach the ground when that happens, I will be flying in regularly again. I just have to be patient and I will.
@FriedChickin yeeaah basically every older ship gets left in the bin by CIG... Hopefully they will get back to them sooner than later. (Looking at the sorry state of the Connie for example)
@ I feel bad for Carrok users that big bird is desperate for a rework
I was the same as you. I hated Freelancers and vowed to never get one but I like the Starlancer.
I am not sure I agree that it needs a built in tractor beam for the belly because it takes me under 4 minutes to load 128scu into the belly using a Maxilift. I have yet to even bother using my ATLS because i think any time I save will be negated by the time it takes to get it out and move it into position to start loading then put it away after. Have you times how long it takes you to do that?
I was just saying that it needs a tractor beam because pretty much every other dedicated cargo ship has one the clipper, the nomad, the caterpillar, the cutlass black and I’m sure the railen will have one too
Those side ramps, need lights bad
I agree 100% all of these ships needs floodlights, including this desperately
@FriedChickin the terrapin med even got flood lights for the entrance ramp. Ya first thing I'm like oh the side cargo has lights inside. They go to the ground and it's like wow that's dark
@ they have been adjusting the lighting with every patch in the PTU so who knows they might add flood lights before it’s official release they tweaking it maybe make a post on the issue console about it
@@FriedChickin I was shocked when I walked into a bedroom to show my son and the mirror worked in the ship hahaha
@ lol to bad it’s not an actual mirror. It’s a monitor. Has a camera. I’ve noticed this is going to become the standard across multiple ships. I seen it being updated in a bunch already
Only i've ever had with misc ships have been the pilot view, the control button layout, mfd layout just over all the entire pilot experience of the misc ships have been GROSS to me so sad to see that hasn't changed but over all it does look like it's awesome I'll prob make it my new main medium boi
They did update the MFD for the star Lancer and I do enjoy it, but I can understand where you’re coming from. Sometimes change is not the best way but we just have to go with it because we can’t tell CIG anything.
Lmao I said this thing would of pushed zues out of the way only because it has more space
@@emperor_pewpew2903 I just wish it flew faster. But man she slow af
@FriedChickin I think the slow movement is what makes it balanced because the zues and Taurus are in the same category with it.. can't have those ships completely less than starlancer in everything 😂
@@emperor_pewpew2903 i was talking more about its base scm speeds its like only 100 my cats scms is almost double that idk if it was like 150-200 id be happy
@FriedChickin yesi know that's what am saying it's good that it's slow because it beats zues and Taurus in everything else
It’s a modernized firefly
I did the first 2 save station missions by myself with the starlancer twice and killed around 20 ships quickly. Maybe I'm used to big ships flying the Connie's alot. It was easy and made me happy about this ships combat. Try same missions with Connie and let us know.
@@videonaj I usually fly a 600i. And it does easy work. Some other commenters said the stock guns are trash and to upgrade to rhinos. So I’ll do that
Doing ERT’s easily. With big ships like this drop your speed to increase turn speed. 4 S4 is plenty of fire power for any ERT. I can see it struggling against MRT and below because there’s typically smaller faster ships in those bounties.
But did they fix the fridges in the rooms?
They were broken. I didn’t even know?
@FriedChickin so basically I couldn't not place anything in them and I could not find a button for them
@@stvi26800 I never actually tried using the refrigerators in the SL so I didn’t know. I wonder if that’s going to be a real gameplay mechanic where you have to keep things fresh and refrigerated in the future or if it’s just the show.
No clue, but can you imagine multicrewing and chilling in your rooms and you could actually store drinks in them and go socialise with the crew, would be nice
Had the Freelancer Max and now this, have to say for Misc industrial line ship it has a lot of wasted space, I would trade the unnecessary Hab area,mess hall and kitchen for cargo space + a compact kitchen area. They could have used the freelancer Max hab/bed for this and it would be just fine.
The turret visibility also became a misc line flaw which I don't like.
I will upgrade it to a better ship in the future
Which ship is more geared towards role-playing more than anything else it’s a jack of all trades type of shit. It’s good at a bunch of things, but a master at nothing.
@FriedChickin It's just poor design IMO
They could have made RP friendly with way less waste of space.
Even the corridors going around the rooms are a massive waste, they could have take use of one center corridor instead of 2 going around.
There was no need for private WC/shower for each room either
They could have taken use of the elevating platforms to access the upper deck for more cargo.
It's quite the same scenario with Freelancer Max that has 4 beds with 4 seats and a turret which isn't remote either, marking the 3 other passengers worthless
@ nah I think it’s design is fine. You don’t want every ship to utilize every inch of its space for the purpose It’s built for? you gotta also have fun with the vessel as well. If this thing is just all cargo grids and no fun then people wouldn’t pick it up. The Polaris is a great example huge corridors with nothing inside of them just opened space but players love it because they can have fun with it.
I would say that if you go up against things like Buccaneers then you definitely need turret gunners but against bigger ships like a 600i or Reclaimer I think it will do fine.
@@doodlePimp yeah. I just don’t come across those to often. I usually do the higher level bunkers with my eclipse
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@@jimashby43 love your profile photo!
@@FriedChickin I upped the Taurus, can't wait for it to hit Live. I liked the Taurus, so it was a hard decision 😔
jaabaa ~ in-game
Right they need to fix the landing gear bug other than that solid bird!
It doesn’t matter how many times I see the precision targeting it always makes me sad, the fact that combat was slowed down so much that you can just be zoomed in while you fight is depressing as hell
I already bought a medium cargo ship (Alien - Railen) many years ago, so I'm not buying another ship until they release what I paid for. Also I'm never buying an "In-Concept" ship ever again.
I have that as well and a caterpillar, but that’s not even in the pipeline so it’s going to be years before it even comes to see the light of day and I’m still waiting for the caterpillar rework where they make all the systems, including doors properly work as intended
Ok. That's your opinion. I choose to support the game more than you and get the advantage of buying early and using the CCU method so get it cheaper. I got my Railen for 130 bucks. So while I have to wait a bit, I get a suitable loaner, I actually help the game get finished with donations and I'll get my ships cheaper. Have fun paying for Insurance later!
@@charliemcawesome5012 I'm a Concierge backer, I've put well over $1,000 into the game. Dont tell me im not supporting the game.
When you take this ship out, its description designates it as “industrial” this ship isn’t even a designated cargo hauler. I feel that this ship shines with helping salvagers, or miners, or crafters. Yes of course it’s a cargo vessel but offers more than just cargo space. Have to think outside the norm with this one in order to like it.
Usually, when I go off of shit descriptions, I go off of what the ASO terminal say but now I get it it’s gonna be a fun role-play ship
Theres a timer on the items...? What does that even mean..
What items, what timer?
@@italydude515 so if you place a bunch of itemsin one area. star citizen has a function that will automatically remove items and clutter from a space. This is actually an old update that they implemented back during 3.20. Due to people dropping medical gowns everywhere
2 questions. Wth was that? And why is it on the bed?
🤣🤣🤣 some say it’s an extreme flesh light 👁️👄👁️ but it’s part of the citizen con goodie pack. Sand worn
It's for those lonely solo nights out in the deep black. It fits right along with all of us Masochists that are in love with Star Citizen.
after the nerf from 8500 quantum fuel to 3000 many people allready melt it including me, i understand 8500 is a it more but to cut up to 75% i think is very unfair, the best is to buff again 6000-7000 quantum fuel thats is very for ship carco deep space ship. 3000 now is completely joke of the year
Yea this isn't a balance pass it's a gut like who balances like this?
You melted a ship that's still going through testing and design tweaks as if it was in it's final form.... yeah...
ever day the ship has changed in the ptu. its being polished left and right you are correct!
@@nuirueu ofcourse why not because on ptu i see only nerfes to starlancer max so why i keep ship only nerfs? if fuel and some of them fixed then i take it again but for now at least for me aand majority of people yes i stay away on this ship, not only the fuel but even scm is terrible , if you see on feedback and on latest patch what all peoples say you smile alot. go and take a look
Thing is if the base model is bad at combat the tac ain't gonna be much better other than the added turrets. Both going to be slow unless they decide to fix that issue. Comon its slower than a capital ships!
@@Tribsu well the max isn’t made for combat. I just got like 80 comments asking me to take into battle so I made a little blurp about it. It’s guns is used to help defend it while someone answers a distress beacon
@@FriedChickin It does not answer the mobility issue at all. The cargo variant running empty should be pretty nimble and then engines powerful engufh to make it go. MSR ain't meant for combat either and yet here we are it can actually fly!
@ I hope you realize that every single ship in the game is not affected by weight when it comes to having cargo or no cargo at all on the vessel it’s not implemented into the game yet so for right now it doesn’t matter at all.
Kinda hope the combat version has better scm.
yeah idk how this thing is so slow with such huge motors!
@@FriedChickin Ya I am kinda stuck on what ship to do I was running the Corsair mostly for a ship with 4 size 5 guns (didn't care about the size 4s on the wings) and cargo. I can't sidegrade to the andromeda because you can only upgrade to more expensive ships. If the velocity on the tac version isn't better don't think it's gonna be worth it (was considering it because even though 4 size 4s it has 2 large shields to make you alot tankier than the corsair.)
I wish they had just gotten rid of the wing guns OR just downed the gun sizes a bit but kept all guns pilot firable. No one wants to just sit in the co pilot seat hitting fire for 2 guns they can't aim and you lose out on controlling the turret the co pilot is meant to be using when doing so. Very poorly implemented balance change and not a fun implementation for anyone.
@ maybe they will bring them back with more backlash from the backers?
@@FriedChickin I am really hoping they change the balancing to be something more fun. I don't care if they nerf the guns a bit but removing 2 size 5s from pilot and having it set up in a way that makes it so you can't have them and the turrets if you are fully crewed plus making it not a fun way to play for the copilot is dumb.
Downsizing the guns would have been a better way to go about it, it now has less pilot firepower than a constellation while being squishier with a worse flight model.
My main issue with this ship's design is the non-existing ground clearance and the disappearingly small landing gears that look so poorly positioned that it feels that this whale of a ship could fall on its side at the slightest wind gust.
@@LordCritish look at this ship like a c17 lockhead. They are both similar in nature when it comes to to landing gear.
Up grade your power and weapons
i was going to hold off on power upgrades till after they drop the contestant zones. Cause the good stuff won't be buyable in stores anymore when it drops
I hate to break this to you, but, seeing phallus when looking at MISC ships is a personal issue, not a design problem.
... it's a design-issue. Not for the MAX... but several-others are unplayable because of it.
lancer wont be worse than a carrack at combat... 8 x size 4 guns...
I don’t fly the carrack at all so I wouldn’t know
Yeah….they don’t have “motors”. 😂
No, I said that just to make you mad
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@@FriedChickin
Mission accomplished.
@@SpaceDad42 love trolling on all y’all 🤣🐔🍗🐔
... best-ship... currently in-game; hands-down.
@@RoyHobbs-f4v it has replaced my 600i. My poor bird is so borked I can’t even fly it anymore.
@FriedChickin ... I love that 600i. That is the one "older-design"... that absolutely must be updated and not lost. It... is a true "work-of-art".
@ yeah but right now it’s not working all that well. Systems shutting down turrets not working. Interior bugged. I gotta wait till it’s fixed.
lol, nope... it's an ok ship but has many major design flaws. It is a long way from the best ship in game.
@@webbygaming1583 it’s not, the best ship in the game…. That’s reserved for the cutter
I doubt the Starlancer will ever get a tractor beam. All the video shots with it have it being loaded by an Argo ATLS. Immersion is sometimes a thing people want.
Que the "but video game" "time sink" comments.
But play the way you want. Get the ship that fits that.
I doubt it to buy it would be nice
Die MFDs fehlen, du bekommst keine Informationen und die unteren Bildschirme sieht man nicht. Ein Tobii habe ich nicht und soviel Geld möchte ich nicht investieren. Wenn die MFDs zurückkommen wird es gekauft, wenn nicht, dann eben nicht. Danke für deine tollen Videos Abo ist raus. Bin nur Enttäuscht wegen den MFDs :(
I don’t have a tobi either but all I gotta do is hit the Z button to look around. No swear off my bones. I enjoy the new MFD
"I'm not a fan of MISC...until it benefits my YT channel."
@@krazyivan007 you think 10hs of gameplay was done just for my channel? 🤣 gtfo my page. nah it benefited my gameplay. My 600i was my go to, but it’s so broken I needed something to replace it. This fits that roll easily. Gameplay first before content buddy.
who calls engines motors lol
@@parzivel7587 I do