Awesome fix. Just did this to a model Y. Easy peasy! Can’t believe how hard it was to exit rear door prior to the mod. It shouldn’t be that hard to get out if the need did arise. Tesla should address this. You guys rock!!!
@@bobbyhendrix3393 The extensions are long keychains(5-6”) found online like Amazon or Temu. The signs are not available - I think he had those custom made.
There is a May 2022 Consumer reports article showing that this is not just a Tesla or even an “EV” issue. As more & more auto manufacturers incorporate electronic door latches, these incidents will multiply. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront! Well done Bob & OOS Team!
Problem is some manufacturers are making cars with sandwiched laminated glass, even in the rear side windows. (More acoustic/keeps passengers inside during a crash) Hearing some Teslas in other countries are this way. But next to impossible to break laminated glass with that tool & escape.
Thank you for this video! I drive rideshare (MYLR) and would have to do an airplane safety briefing many times a day to teach passengers how to use the emergency door release. This is the single biggest issue for which I think Tesla deserves a recall. The door release is a huge liability.
went to MT KISCO today to pick up a model Y today. - the process / customer service is less than stellar at the dealership ./ very well thought out escape devices . good job BOB - ~ JDS/CT
Good video. Re Model 3, my 2022 Model 3 LR (Fremont-built in late Nov 2021) did not have the cable in the rear door pockets like the later Model Ys do. I don't know if Tesla has added the manual release cable to the rear doors since that time (sold it June 2022). My 2023 Model Y LR (Austin-built in early Feb 2023) does have the release cable in the rear door pockets. It required a good minute for me to pull the rubber cover off, pull the red latch open, fish the cable out from the small hole (was not visible when I pulled the red latch/door open). The cable had a spongy piece of foam/insulation on the end. I went inside my car, sat on the back seat, and closed the door to see if I could open the door with the cable. I'm a pretty big guy and it required a fair amount of grip on the cable-end and a pretty good tug on the cable before the door would open. You definitely would not want to depend on this in an emergency. A child or elderly person probably would not be able to use the rear manual door release the way Tesla has designed it. I like Bob's idea of the key ring and may do the same on mine. It would significantly speed up and make it easier for someone unfamiliar with manual door latch operation to exit the vehicle in an emergency. Considering Tesla is obsessed (in a good way) with achieving the best safety ratings, it's a real head-scratcher to me why Tesla scrimped on this basic safety feature. How many cents did Tesla save with this design? I'm also surprised the NHTSA doesn't consider this (and other vehicles with similar designs) a safety issue. To me, it looks like there is a gap in safety regulations now that we have electric-only vehicle door opener mechanisms.
Yes, this is a lousy design. Why not replicate the same release in the back as the front. If ‘the best part is no part’, then the corollary should be that ‘1 system is better than two systems to accomplish the same task’.
Bod should market a kit of the 4 buttons(stickers?) Keychains and label for.... $20? 2 million Tesla owners would say "Hell yes!". (Would be a great Christmas "stocking filler" or birthday gift for a Tesla owner?)
The green sticker is a great idea. My brother in law pulled the emergency release the first time he was a passenger in my Model Y car. The other safety mods are good too.
Tesla FIX this! Throw a SpaceX engineer on this for day and get this fixed. This is a company that listens to its customers. This is not on the holiday wish list, it’s on the MUST FIX list! Awesome Bob!
This underscores why cars should have physical door handles/levers. I can’t believe that it makes that much of a difference in aero efficiency. You shouldn’t have to have an airline safety discussion with your passengers. Just put a real door handle there, why is it so hard?
After checking, our 2023 Austin built Model Y doesn’t have rubber insert, only has carpet in the rear door well and no red latch. Just a plastic access door to cable. Definitely needs an extension. Thanks so much for the info!
I did this months ago, I attached an old lanyard to the loop in each back door, and the lanyard is sort of hanging out of the storage bin. So, very easy to grab in case of emergency.
Is it possible to open the 3 or Y passenger doors from the OUTSIDE if the 12 volt battery is dead? I think the 3 and Y exterior passenger door handles are mechanical rather than electric. Couldn't the driver get out using the mechanical lever on their door, then open the rear doors for the passengers?
...and why can't Tesla come up with a VISIBLE emergency door handle? In an emergency, anybody who hasn't seen this video and gets caught in a fire in the back seat of a Tesla Model Y or Model 3 would be in serious danger. They could have avoided all of this had they not gone with frameless doors and just normal mechanical door releases. I love technology but in many cases, simple things just offer a better solution.
The only reason I can see this being done by Tesla is to enforce "rear child door locking." If the rear seats had the same release that the front doors have, I could forsee a lot of small children, even in their car seats, opening the rear doors at inappropriate moments. ICE vehicles do this and nobody to recent memory has mentioned this as a life safety issue, but with the earlier video and Bob's idea, we can certainly see a case for this is warranted. I'm currently searching for tags to attach to this loop in my MYP and have only found one from a company called 8Wedge so far but they are hard laminate, that fabric one looks much better.
The Emergency tags you showed look like they were commercially made. I wonder if there’s an Amazon link to something like that I’ve been searching and so far I haven’t found it
This is a good video EXCEPT... Dave, you got REALLY TIRESOME about the "which battery - 12V battery" over and over and OVER. I got to the point of talking to the computer, saying Okay, we get it, just STFU and move on. After that, these are excellent suggestions and something that Tesla could significantly improve on in their next refresh (or sooner).
Dave, do not do this again, esp to Cathy! It’s so patronising to her and us viewers! Really pissed me off! I will unsubscribe, I’m telling you if you try this BS again. Really stupid thing to do when Cathy was bringing up a really important safety matter.
If they didn't want to add a mechanical handle like the front doors they could have just thrown in a supercapacitor at each door. But they really should just have a manual handle like the front doors.
I think that doors that depend on a battery to be opened are dangerous. Why? If your Tesla catches fire, your passengers won’t have the presence of mind to reach into a cup holder well to yank on an emergency handle. I have a minivan with automatic opening and closing. However, there is a lever in plain sight that you can pull the door open manually. I think Tesla should put the same kind of system they have in the front doors..a plainly visible lever that you can use in case the battery fails or if the vehicle catches fire. Very good video, but again, Tesla needs to address this issue in a more significant manual fux.
LOL, I'm laughing with Dave's wife here. She is right about the car battery dying. It doesn't matter if it's the 12 Volt or the main battery. The point is, if the battery is dead and you can't get out of the car the normal way, how do you get out of the car? This is a huge design flaw and goes against Elon's ethos. "The best part is no part." The same door handles that open the car normally should be the same ones that you use to open during an emergency. She is 100% right here. The average customer does not care about how many batteries are in the car. How do I get out if there is no power? It shouldn't be complex.
Yes I agree, It is the weird way they have the door windows - using the mechanical latch in a Tesla could break the unprotected door windows, where the electric button when pressed drops the glass window a little bit then the door opens. I know it is stupid, but that is a Tesla for you.
Just thinking about this for a moment. What about ICE cars with child locks? Nobody's mentioned those in recent memory. What happens if a child is in the back and pulls the emergency release at the wrong time? I do agree that where it is now is extremely worrisome in the event of an emergency for adults.
Isn't there just a latch on every Tesla? There has been on every Tesla I have ever been in. Some of my passengers actually make the mistake of using the emergency handle instead of the normal button for the door.
Yeah it is kind of dumb. I guess it is to prevent kids or new passengers from always reaching for the mechanical door latch first instead of the electric buttons. People are always looking for the normal car door handles being in gas cars all their lives.
It’s a 16 volt battery not a 12!!! Also called “low voltage battery”, the big battery is called High Voltage battery. Both are Lithium Ion and should rarely just die as long as your high voltage pack has charge 🤓
There is a release on my 2018 RWD M3. It is under the door pocket bottom. You need tools to get to it, but you can modify it to be acessable in an emergency.
Hmmm!!!! that is not very good. Yeah my 2023 model Y has an emergency door latches front and rear. I hope the new model 3 and Y vehicles have front and rear mechanical latches.
@@georgeidarraga4006 The red plastic latch opens the door to access the cable. The cable has white foam on the end of the loop. This is what you pull to open door in an emergency, the white foam/cable under red latch.
Another epic failure from Tesla’s brilliant design department. I’m a stockholder and I just shake my head over the stupidity of some of their design ideas. I have an ioniq5 and you can open any of the doors anytime you want without even worrying about the 12 V battery being alive or dead. Why do we have to overcomplicate all this stuff? It should be illegal to make a door that hard to get out of because the battery goes dead.
Not a stupid design. If there was an easy to access pull handle for the rear doors children would pull it and fall out of the car, potentially at highway speeds…manual releases override child safety locks. There are reasons things are done a certain way.
Somehow I see a recall from this video. It’s ridiculous that you have to disassemble part of her car to open the door in event of a loss of battery power. Shame on Elon.
If a Tesla goes on fire 🔥 which is fairly frequent- the passengers are basically toast. Those EV fires are explosive like a blow torch and are almost impossible to put out. RIP 🪦
Yes, it is hard to put out battery fires., but they don’t explode. You have more time to get out and survive an EV fire. Gasoline car fires quickly explode.
Awesome fix. Just did this to a model Y. Easy peasy! Can’t believe how hard it was to exit rear door prior to the mod. It shouldn’t be that hard to get out if the need did arise. Tesla should address this. You guys rock!!!
Where did you find/buy the signs and other materials needed?
@@bobbyhendrix3393 The extensions are long keychains(5-6”) found online like Amazon or Temu. The signs are not available - I think he had those custom made.
@@bobbyhendrix3393Look at the big online retailers. If I mention them the post gets removed!
Online store for keychains. No signs available that I can see.
Seems like this would be so easy for Tesla to implement something like this. What a thoughtful brilliant guy Bob is. Thanks for this video!
There is a May 2022 Consumer reports article showing that this is not just a Tesla or even an “EV” issue. As more & more auto manufacturers incorporate electronic door latches, these incidents will multiply. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront! Well done Bob & OOS Team!
Been an issue for years.. You should just keep an emergency window shatter device in your car at all times.
Problem is some manufacturers are making cars with sandwiched laminated glass, even in the rear side windows. (More acoustic/keeps passengers inside during a crash) Hearing some Teslas in other countries are this way. But next to impossible to break laminated glass with that tool & escape.
Yes Bob thank you for your service.
Great information. That gentleman should come up with a kit to sell.
Bob should sell these too!!!
Thank you for this video! I drive rideshare (MYLR) and would have to do an airplane safety briefing many times a day to teach passengers how to use the emergency door release. This is the single biggest issue for which I think Tesla deserves a recall. The door release is a huge liability.
Other cars do the same.
Outstanding video Guys...Thank you all for sharing!!! ✌✌✌
So important... Wow! Thank you so much for this!
went to MT KISCO today to pick up a model Y today. - the process / customer service is less than stellar at the dealership ./ very well thought out escape devices . good job BOB - ~ JDS/CT
Good video. Re Model 3, my 2022 Model 3 LR (Fremont-built in late Nov 2021) did not have the cable in the rear door pockets like the later Model Ys do. I don't know if Tesla has added the manual release cable to the rear doors since that time (sold it June 2022). My 2023 Model Y LR (Austin-built in early Feb 2023) does have the release cable in the rear door pockets. It required a good minute for me to pull the rubber cover off, pull the red latch open, fish the cable out from the small hole (was not visible when I pulled the red latch/door open). The cable had a spongy piece of foam/insulation on the end. I went inside my car, sat on the back seat, and closed the door to see if I could open the door with the cable. I'm a pretty big guy and it required a fair amount of grip on the cable-end and a pretty good tug on the cable before the door would open. You definitely would not want to depend on this in an emergency. A child or elderly person probably would not be able to use the rear manual door release the way Tesla has designed it. I like Bob's idea of the key ring and may do the same on mine. It would significantly speed up and make it easier for someone unfamiliar with manual door latch operation to exit the vehicle in an emergency.
Considering Tesla is obsessed (in a good way) with achieving the best safety ratings, it's a real head-scratcher to me why Tesla scrimped on this basic safety feature. How many cents did Tesla save with this design? I'm also surprised the NHTSA doesn't consider this (and other vehicles with similar designs) a safety issue. To me, it looks like there is a gap in safety regulations now that we have electric-only vehicle door opener mechanisms.
Yes, this is a lousy design. Why not replicate the same release in the back as the front. If ‘the best part is no part’, then the corollary should be that ‘1 system is better than two systems to accomplish the same task’.
Excellent! You go Bob.
Very cool idea! Nice job Bob!
Bod should market a kit of the 4 buttons(stickers?) Keychains and label for.... $20?
2 million Tesla owners would say "Hell yes!".
(Would be a great Christmas "stocking filler" or birthday gift for a Tesla owner?)
The green sticker is a great idea. My brother in law pulled the emergency release the first time he was a passenger in my Model Y car. The other safety mods are good too.
Tesla FIX this! Throw a SpaceX engineer on this for day and get this fixed. This is a company that listens to its customers. This is not on the holiday wish list, it’s on the MUST FIX list! Awesome Bob!
I have a 2023 Model 3 LR and I don't have the rear emergency latches. Just hard plastic on the bottom of the door wells
SAME…Saw a friends Model 3, 2023 I believe, with NO rear release. So how do you get out of the rear of these if the door switch doesn’t work???
I have a glass breaker and seat belt cutter in each door, especially living in Florida with all the lakes and canals in the state
THANKS! This is excellent!
Genius!
Thank you for this informative video 💪🏾
This underscores why cars should have physical door handles/levers. I can’t believe that it makes that much of a difference in aero efficiency. You shouldn’t have to have an airline safety discussion with your passengers. Just put a real door handle there, why is it so hard?
After checking, our 2023 Austin built Model Y doesn’t have rubber insert, only has carpet in the rear door well and no red latch. Just a plastic access door to cable. Definitely needs an extension. Thanks so much for the info!
My 2023 Austin-built Model Y LR does have the rubber insert (built late Jan/early Feb 2023) and red latch.
Is there a loop on the release cable under the white foam? Some more info on how Bob actually attached the red straps would be good.
There is a loop.
Thanks. Did not want to rip the foam off to discover there was not.
Yes there is a small loop. Sorry I didn’t show that better!
I did this months ago, I attached an old lanyard to the loop in each back door, and the lanyard is sort of hanging out of the storage bin. So, very easy to grab in case of emergency.
How did you attach them. All I see is a piece of white foam.
@@stephenmiller6690peel off that foam and underneath there is a loop.
@@stephenmiller6690 yup the foam has a loop underneath
Is it possible to open the 3 or Y passenger doors from the OUTSIDE if the 12 volt battery is dead? I think the 3 and Y exterior passenger door handles are mechanical rather than electric. Couldn't the driver get out using the mechanical lever on their door, then open the rear doors for the passengers?
...and why can't Tesla come up with a VISIBLE emergency door handle? In an emergency, anybody who hasn't seen this video and gets caught in a fire in the back seat of a Tesla Model Y or Model 3 would be in serious danger. They could have avoided all of this had they not gone with frameless doors and just normal mechanical door releases. I love technology but in many cases, simple things just offer a better solution.
Child locks. That probably why it is hidden.
The only reason I can see this being done by Tesla is to enforce "rear child door locking." If the rear seats had the same release that the front doors have, I could forsee a lot of small children, even in their car seats, opening the rear doors at inappropriate moments. ICE vehicles do this and nobody to recent memory has mentioned this as a life safety issue, but with the earlier video and Bob's idea, we can certainly see a case for this is warranted. I'm currently searching for tags to attach to this loop in my MYP and have only found one from a company called 8Wedge so far but they are hard laminate, that fabric one looks much better.
The Emergency tags you showed look like they were commercially made. I wonder if there’s an Amazon link to something like that I’ve been searching and so far I haven’t found it
This is a good video EXCEPT... Dave, you got REALLY TIRESOME about the "which battery - 12V battery" over and over and OVER. I got to the point of talking to the computer, saying Okay, we get it, just STFU and move on.
After that, these are excellent suggestions and something that Tesla could significantly improve on in their next refresh (or sooner).
Dave, do not do this again, esp to Cathy! It’s so patronising to her and us viewers! Really pissed me off! I will unsubscribe, I’m telling you if you try this BS again. Really stupid thing to do when Cathy was bringing up a really important safety matter.
I just showed my grandchildren how they get out if there is an emergency and they have to get out and their door will not open.
The cars should have had emergency latches front AND rear from the getgo. Isherwell's cost-saving scrimping is unacceptable.
If they didn't want to add a mechanical handle like the front doors they could have just thrown in a supercapacitor at each door.
But they really should just have a manual handle like the front doors.
I think that doors that depend on a battery to be opened are dangerous. Why? If your Tesla catches fire, your passengers won’t have the presence of mind to reach into a cup holder well to yank on an emergency handle. I have a minivan with automatic opening and closing. However, there is a lever in plain sight that you can pull the door open manually. I think Tesla should put the same kind of system they have in the front doors..a plainly visible lever that you can use in case the battery fails or if the vehicle catches fire. Very good video, but again, Tesla needs to address this issue in a more significant manual fux.
Agreed.
I'm always amazed at the things people are worried about vs. those things they are not worried about. Oh, no! What if...
I'd like to see you get out of a model X! Manual release or not!
Enabling a fix & proud to not be selling any product.
What about of your car goes into water? Do a video on that.
I’m sure the pull handle thing is bc of kids in the back
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i1tesla did this mod 4 years ago with his M3.
LOL, I'm laughing with Dave's wife here. She is right about the car battery dying. It doesn't matter if it's the 12 Volt or the main battery. The point is, if the battery is dead and you can't get out of the car the normal way, how do you get out of the car? This is a huge design flaw and goes against Elon's ethos. "The best part is no part." The same door handles that open the car normally should be the same ones that you use to open during an emergency. She is 100% right here. The average customer does not care about how many batteries are in the car. How do I get out if there is no power? It shouldn't be complex.
Yes I agree, It is the weird way they have the door windows - using the mechanical latch in a Tesla could break the unprotected door windows, where the electric button when pressed drops the glass window a little bit then the door opens. I know it is stupid, but that is a Tesla for you.
@@dathyr1right? and frameless windows have been around 30 years or more, I dont get why they struggle w the simple stuff.
Just thinking about this for a moment. What about ICE cars with child locks? Nobody's mentioned those in recent memory. What happens if a child is in the back and pulls the emergency release at the wrong time? I do agree that where it is now is extremely worrisome in the event of an emergency for adults.
If a child in the back and they pull the release, the door will open slightly like all other cars ever, right?@@bobcarpenter1551
@@bobcarpenter1551 Very true.
Isn't there just a latch on every Tesla? There has been on every Tesla I have ever been in. Some of my passengers actually make the mistake of using the emergency handle instead of the normal button for the door.
In the ones built in the US? (CA & TX) I think only have these on the front doors, not the rear doors, which they are showing in this video.
@@bobcarpenter1551 Never mind. I just noticed my also only has it in the front. Guess I’ll need to safety brief my passengers 😂
@@nielsvandenkieboom5034 Yes part of the pre-flight checklist.
Older model 3’s don’t have any form of mechanical release in the back.
How do I buy it?
Why does a lever to open the door have to be so hidden?
Yeah it is kind of dumb. I guess it is to prevent kids or new passengers from always reaching for the mechanical door latch first instead of the electric buttons. People are always looking for the normal car door handles being in gas cars all their lives.
Because the Tesla designers are stupid. 🤨
And what is wrong with normal door handles? It has nothing to do with whether the car is electric. @@dathyr1
The big question here is why the red brake calipers
why not?
I saw those too. It is the police go fast option.
With the aero covers over them hahah
Glass breakers are the way to go. Doors could be damaged.
Dave this doesn't apply to the Model 3. At least my '23 doesn't have it.
Are those dogs enjoying riding around in the back seat of your new model X?
It’s a 16 volt battery not a 12!!! Also called “low voltage battery”, the big battery is called High Voltage battery. Both are Lithium Ion and should rarely just die as long as your high voltage pack has charge 🤓
The Model 3 RWD has no way to get out of the back doors at all. There is no release like there is in the Y.
There is a release on my 2018 RWD M3. It is under the door pocket bottom. You need tools to get to it, but you can modify it to be acessable in an emergency.
Hmmm!!!! that is not very good. Yeah my 2023 model Y has an emergency door latches front and rear. I hope the new model 3 and Y vehicles have front and rear mechanical latches.
@@dathyr1My Y has rear door release cables. They’re under the door pocket trim. It’s a red plastic piece you pull on.
@@georgeidarraga4006 The red plastic latch opens the door to access the cable. The cable has white foam on the end of the loop. This is what you pull to open door in an emergency, the white foam/cable under red latch.
I think it might be child safety reason.
model 3 doesn't have this
Respek
Tesla went to all the trouble to engineer the electric opening button AND an emergency release, instead of just doing a simple door handle. Got it.
Hoe didi NHTSA miss that safety concern?
Dave
If "you arrive at a charger and the port won't open...." You bought a Hyundai by mistake 😉
(Known fault)
Ok it’s a 16.9 ion battery
Bobs your uncle
Another epic failure from Tesla’s brilliant design department. I’m a stockholder and I just shake my head over the stupidity of some of their design ideas. I have an ioniq5 and you can open any of the doors anytime you want without even worrying about the 12 V battery being alive or dead. Why do we have to overcomplicate all this stuff? It should be illegal to make a door that hard to get out of because the battery goes dead.
Not a stupid design. If there was an easy to access pull handle for the rear doors children would pull it and fall out of the car, potentially at highway speeds…manual releases override child safety locks.
There are reasons things are done a certain way.
Wife makes sense; husband misses the point; He gets bogged down into details and MISSES THE POINT!
Always!
I bet they won’t do it because of child locks
Dave’s blasé/condescending attitude regarding the rather serious subject matter in this vid is somewhat annoying, in my opinion.
Yikes
Somehow I see a recall from this video. It’s ridiculous that you have to disassemble part of her car to open the door in event of a loss of battery power. Shame on Elon.
Just one more reason why I would never, ever buy an AlexJonesMobile.
If a Tesla goes on fire 🔥 which is fairly frequent- the passengers are basically toast. Those EV fires are explosive like a blow torch and are almost impossible to put out. RIP 🪦
FUD
ICE cars catch fire 11 x EVs. Yes, ICE car passengers are often toast.
You must be magician, you can pull up 'facts' out of thin air. 😅
Yes, it is hard to put out battery fires., but they don’t explode. You have more time to get out and survive an EV fire. Gasoline car fires quickly explode.
@@steves7581Fear, Uncertainty, & Doubt