Should you get a Japanese pull saw?

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  • @misfitramone
    @misfitramone 5 лет назад +625

    The thing I like about the Japanese pull saw is if you square up the reflection of the wood on the side of the saw your cuts end up beautiful and square! I always watch the reflection and it's helped a ton!

    • @ian-duh
      @ian-duh 5 лет назад +47

      This is true of any saw with a shiny-enough plate.

    • @EPaulIII
      @EPaulIII 5 лет назад +8

      Great tip. Thanks!

    • @zoutewand
      @zoutewand 4 года назад +16

      Yup!! The saws also have 2 small knives. One at the bottom and one at the top. The one at the bottom is to cut the fibers before starting, the other one is to cut fibers in a sawline. Bought a set of em for €100, don't regret it

    • @somedude2492
      @somedude2492 4 года назад +9

      You can polish the side of the blade on your favourite saw and you'll get the same effect.

    • @pforce9
      @pforce9 4 года назад +1

      Thank you!

  • @johanandersson2165
    @johanandersson2165 4 года назад +601

    ahh if i just listen then it sounds like louis rossmann macbook repair

    • @insanejughead
      @insanejughead 4 года назад +71

      Hahahaha! Only slower and with fewer expletives about corporate shills.

    • @ph143
      @ph143 4 года назад +32

      @@insanejughead And less "screw Apple"

    • @charadremur333
      @charadremur333 4 года назад +35

      He kinda sorta looks like him to.
      Pp bus. Lol.

    • @kepeb1
      @kepeb1 4 года назад +18

      Exactly! Both human, both speak English. Uncanny.

    • @NewTypeIII
      @NewTypeIII 4 года назад +2

      I'm glad someone else really noticed that.

  • @BoggWeasel
    @BoggWeasel 5 лет назад +157

    Got my first one 10+ years ago, never went back. Easier to do accurate cuts, reduced do overs, It made me like hand sawing wood again. Great vid

  • @censusgary
    @censusgary 5 лет назад +172

    I’ve had a Japanese pull saw for several years, and I like it.
    Hearing you talk about pushing versus pulling makes me wonder why all saws aren’t pull saws.

    • @markjustdiditc
      @markjustdiditc 4 года назад +16

      go cut down a log with a pullsaw

    • @anthonycraig2471
      @anthonycraig2471 4 года назад +11

      As per Tabourba below you can get far more power into a push saw. Unless its delicate work a push saw is the way to go. If you want to test try cutting a couple of 2x4 with a push via a pull and time yourself.

    • @jonc8074
      @jonc8074 4 года назад +18

      honestly a lot of japanese tools are two handed to maximize leverage because of low body weight, from kitchen whisks to the katana. also they don't have a lot insanely hard wood in Japan like in other places so this saw is always fine to use

    • @stanrogers5613
      @stanrogers5613 4 года назад +58

      > "go cut down a log with a pullsaw" You know, that's exactly what people have been doing since forever. Bow saws are used on the pull, as are buck saws and other felling saws. Saw blades are bendy, and cutting on the pull makes a whole lot more sense. "Traditional" push saws are relatively new by comparison, and even those have tended to be backsaws when the accuracy of the cut matters.

    • @anthonycraig2471
      @anthonycraig2471 4 года назад +19

      ​@@stanrogers5613 Bow saws, felling saws, buck saws or any other saws designed for quick, aggressive cutting with little regard to the finish, cut on both the push and pull stroke. Have you ever used a bow saw? If you have and you still think it only cuts on the pull stroke you're not doing it right.

  • @edi9892
    @edi9892 4 года назад +36

    I don´t do carpentry and yet this was in my recommended...
    It reminds me a little of how British soldiers were utterly clueless when they tried to dig trenches with French shovels (one has a T-shaped handle and the other has a wooden pommel and they are apparently used completely differently with different muscle groups involved...)

    • @CandidZulu
      @CandidZulu 3 года назад +2

      One has a D handle you mean? Never tried a shovel with a straight handle, seems akward.

  • @xXmartes13Xx
    @xXmartes13Xx 4 года назад +168

    I didn't know seth everman was so into wood sawing tools.

  • @Kikilang60
    @Kikilang60 5 лет назад +327

    Yeah, the wife. My wife ask, "What do you need that for?" "Ah, to smooth the wood." I say hesitently. "That's different from the other one how?" "Ah, the other one is a jack plane, it does rougher work. I can't smooth with the Jack plane." "And that's different than the big one?" she asks. "Ah, the big one is flattens the wood." I say. "What's the difference between flatten, and smooth?" It's better if there is no questions.

    • @jackjkantrowitz50kantrowit12
      @jackjkantrowitz50kantrowit12 5 лет назад +54

      Kiki Lang Most women don’t appreciate the differences between various tools as many men don’t appreciate the differences between fabrics.

    • @jameshaulenbeek5931
      @jameshaulenbeek5931 5 лет назад +122

      @@jackjkantrowitz50kantrowit12 that's a pretty untrue generalization...
      It depends far more on what the individual's interested in than what their gender is.

    • @Steve_1401
      @Steve_1401 5 лет назад +7

      @@jackjkantrowitz50kantrowit12 or shoes....... or handbags :D

    • @jackjkantrowitz50kantrowit12
      @jackjkantrowitz50kantrowit12 5 лет назад +34

      I admit it was a generalization. There are things that do seem more important to MOST men and those that do seem more important to MOST women.

    • @dtwistrewind7361
      @dtwistrewind7361 5 лет назад +18

      @@jackjkantrowitz50kantrowit12 most could just be over 50% or the majority, I think you were correct generalization or not.

  • @briantobin3681
    @briantobin3681 4 года назад +15

    Hi Rex, nice review! I have a couple Japanese pull saws, and love them. Something you may not be aware of, That last large angled tooth at the tip of the saw is a depth guage! While you are cutting with a ryoba, you should work the blade up and down. This will result in a ridge, in the middle of the cut where you can not see it. Kind of like a ^ inside the cut. At the end of your cut, tip the blade down. So that last bit on the end of the blade is parallel to where you want the final depth of your cut. and saw back and forth gently, you will saw away the ridge in the middle of the cut without cutting deeper than you intended! :)

  • @jameswhite4709
    @jameswhite4709 5 лет назад +103

    Harbor freight has a great Japanese pull saw for around 10 and it works great. I have a decent woodshop on my apartment balcony thanks to your videos and around $75 at Harbor Freight. Working the $30 bench now. You're creative!

    • @TheLolkid777
      @TheLolkid777 5 лет назад +4

      I have that saw too my only complain t is it's a bit too long what else did you get from harbor freight

    • @Montezuma03
      @Montezuma03 5 лет назад +12

      The harbor freight saw is cool, I used it for a few months, but I bought a nicer ryoba on Amazon for 30 bucks and is sooo much nicer. It's a lot thinner and cuts even smoother. You should think about upgrading sometime

    • @kenabi
      @kenabi 4 года назад

      different sizes for different purposes. the HF one is a larger variant for larger tasks. ultimately you want 3 sizes of the double blade style. the HF would be on the top end of that scale.

    • @Dresdentrumpet
      @Dresdentrumpet 4 года назад

      hahaha same here

  • @tHaH4x0r
    @tHaH4x0r 5 лет назад +8

    These kinds of responsive videos and course feedback really make this channel different to all others, and make me realize what an amazing job you are doing. Thanks!

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  5 лет назад +4

      It's really my pleasure!

  • @steamr0ll
    @steamr0ll 5 лет назад +11

    Rex, I bought one of these saws after you published this vid and I haven't picked up another saw since. Great recommendation and I must say, you have really inspired me to pursue my interest in woodworking. Just "farting around" with tools in a basic workshop is incredibly satisfying, and your Woodworking For Humans series really spreads that valuable message. Thanks for doing what you do, my dude!

  • @keithreay
    @keithreay 3 года назад

    Rex, I stumbled across your channel... Thank you for the honesty and straightforward advice, comments, and suggestions. Keep up the great work.

  • @philm4337
    @philm4337 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Rex. Love the explanations in your videos, also in your build ones, the little extra time to watch is well worth it. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @wildestgoose7288
    @wildestgoose7288 4 года назад

    This is the first video of yours I've ever seen and I'm very impressed by the way you hold yourself in this video. You somehow managed to get me to watch the whole thing just by the way you talk to the viewers. I believe you're amazing and I'm glad I found you and your channel ❤️

  • @neil2252
    @neil2252 4 года назад +1

    Nice video with no filler or BS. This is the first time I have seen one of your videos and you put the saw you were testing over very clearly so that even a complete amateur like myself could understand and not feel daunted by the thought of trying it. Subscribed . :)

  • @GrandmasterGib
    @GrandmasterGib 4 года назад +3

    Thanks Rex, I picked up one of these cheap at a yard sale and it's just been hanging in my garage for years. I've never known what to use it for, but now I'm excited to give it a try.

  • @erikgranqvist3680
    @erikgranqvist3680 5 лет назад +31

    Japanese saws was a revelation for my bad shoulders when I tested one something like 5 years sgo.

  • @joonyer77
    @joonyer77 2 года назад

    Got my first pull saw about 2 weeks ago. Absolutely love it.
    I didn't know they even existed until I saw your video.
    Thanks.

  • @trishleet2760
    @trishleet2760 4 года назад

    Just found your videos today, really enjoying them, and your presentation. Great topic, I bought one recently & was contemplating it's use in a project I am working on, so your video helped introduce it's use to me, and now I am super psyched, as I am certain this will be much better with it. Thanks again, please keep up the great work!

  • @garygilbert1440
    @garygilbert1440 5 лет назад +14

    I have had 3 or 4. These are absolutely the best at a lot of types of cutting. I love the precision cuts I can make with these, but quite a few of my friends have never used one. It's a shame. Thanks for the video

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 5 лет назад

      You can get precision with European saws as well but it really is a preference thing. I have noticed that a lot of beginners tend to prefer japanese saws even though I do not think they are any easier to use.

  • @MstrCorrin
    @MstrCorrin 5 лет назад +84

    I love my Japanese saw, use it for everything.

    • @NotSoCrazyNinja
      @NotSoCrazyNinja 5 лет назад +9

      I know it's not "proper", but I recently used mine to open an overly packaged item received in the mail. I was sort of in a rush and no knife handy but the saw was right there, so... a couple gentle slices and the package was open (cardboard lol). I'm beginning to think this type of saw has thousands of uses. I've used it so far for cutting branches, some tree trimming, some firewood cutting (very small fire), and of course some woodworking.

    • @Oscar4u69
      @Oscar4u69 4 года назад +11

      is it good to make some eggs?

    • @mmyr8ado.360
      @mmyr8ado.360 4 года назад +1

      Get a pair of those and a teppan grill, and you can make teppanyaki in your home.

    • @senza4591
      @senza4591 4 года назад +3

      Screws? Nails? Raising your children? Evacuating a burning building? Huh, thats a ton of potential uses.

    • @jesseparker8115
      @jesseparker8115 4 года назад +2

      I sawed Phil swift in halve with this Japanese saw and repaired him with flex tape

  • @aw2229
    @aw2229 4 года назад

    Love how informative and exactly you are critiquing the pros and cons of these saws. Good stuff mate

  • @andrewjetter7351
    @andrewjetter7351 4 года назад

    Hey Rex, I love your videos and this series. It's helped me gain the confidence to start up woodworking from ground zero. I would love to see you make a series on what you can do using power tools! I can see you have a lot of fun machinery in your shop. Thanks again!

  • @superlazy3355
    @superlazy3355 5 лет назад +3

    RUclips recommended and I have to say, the algorithm hit the spot with you sir! Superb knowledge and extremely 'listenable' 👍
    ✌️ From the UK 🇬🇧 ✌️

  • @jeffnolan2021
    @jeffnolan2021 4 года назад +4

    My first saw was this exact saw. He's right about an unforgiving rip, but it improves technique and the versatility is unparalleled. The real expense is in Japanese chisels and block planes! They get pricey very quickly, but last forever with proper care. Thanks for the review! Love the channel.

  • @ryanmacs2486
    @ryanmacs2486 4 года назад

    Go Rex! Figure it out is a great approach. Subscribed and liked. Quality content. No freebies or sponsorships, just getting to the knowledge fresh

  • @bokfuman
    @bokfuman 4 года назад

    Thank you very much for the detail tips, I have one on order now and waiting to get to work with it.

  • @axiomatic
    @axiomatic 3 года назад

    I've been watching your videos a lot recently and am really enjoying your approach to demonstrating your techniques. Subbed!

  • @jamesneiditch784
    @jamesneiditch784 5 лет назад +1

    Way to listen to your viewers, glad you found something that you enjoy based on a viewer suggestion

  • @thatsoundsgood300
    @thatsoundsgood300 3 года назад

    dude i love your videos and your goofy style of presentation sometimes

  • @dokidoki1021
    @dokidoki1021 5 лет назад +114

    for accuracy, cut a small kerf on all sides, the saw will follow it. thats the japanese way 👍

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  5 лет назад +27

      I'll keep practicing!

    • @MumrikDK
      @MumrikDK 4 года назад +16

      @Tabourba pulls should come from your back muscles mainly, even when we're talking about a single-handed pull like that.

    • @runearmour3942
      @runearmour3942 4 года назад +1

      thank you sir this solved my problems

    • @alterworks7212
      @alterworks7212 4 года назад +33

      Tabourba bro we get it, you’re threatened that the west’s supposed superiority is being questioned.
      to be clear, no one cares where their saw comes from as long as it does a good job, and it’s hilarious that you felt a need to counterattack.

    • @iIsIrrational
      @iIsIrrational 4 года назад +8

      @@alterworks7212 He wasn't "threatened that the west’s supposed superiority is being questioned". He was simply clarifying a misconception most people had about pull-saws being being an exclusive Japanese invention. He was also elaborating on the differences, advantages vs disadvantages, of pull-saws vs push saw. I found the comment informative. Unlike you who seem to be "threatened" by someone knowing more than you and actually contributing to a discussion.

  • @BirdYoumans
    @BirdYoumans 5 лет назад +2

    I have the gyokucho version of this. I LOVE it!! You have to get use to not putting pressure on the down stroke but on the pull stroke. But once you get used to that, there's no going back!

  • @mikeg2046
    @mikeg2046 5 лет назад

    Love how this channel is so humble in the sense that Rex looks out for all the guys that don't live on homesteads with workshops the size of houses. Awesome channel

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  5 лет назад

      Thanks so much for saying so. If my wife heard you call me humble, she would die laughing.

  • @SheetMonk
    @SheetMonk 5 лет назад +5

    I bought an Irwin of this style saw years ago at Lowe's. It has been my go to saw every time. I have plans to make the low roman bench that you have made and I was wondering how it would work with that bench. I'm glad to see that it all worked out. great review.

  • @EvenTheDogAgrees
    @EvenTheDogAgrees 4 года назад +22

    That always bothered me about saws ever since I was a kid, especially the ones like the Dewalt he shows at around 2:30... When you push on them, they tend to buckle up. It simply makes more sense to cut on the pull stroke rather than the push stroke. It's more accurate, you have more power, and the saw is always under tension and always straight.

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees 4 года назад +1

      @Mike G You can't really lean in if the damn thing keeps bucking up on you though, can you?

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees 4 года назад +5

      @Mike G Well, since I only use saws occasionally, I'm pretty sure that my technique is indeed lacking. I couldn't make a straight cut with hand saws to save my life.
      That said, physics is physics. A flat sheet under tension will remain straight. A flat sheet under compression will want to wobble or buckle up. If your saw gets stuck while you're pushing on it, especially when you're putting a lot of power behind it, that's exactly what happens: you put the sheet under compression and it buckles up. When the saw cuts on the pulling motion, there's simply no way for that to happen.

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 3 года назад +7

      I took to turning all my hacksaw blades 'round so they cut on the pull stroke, and it's made a world of difference in the ease and control I have cutting metal.

    • @arthurrsaker8893
      @arthurrsaker8893 3 года назад +1

      @@mrz80 What a great idea buddy. Tried it on a projecting half inch carriage bolt a few inches above ground level where the only feasible position is working from directly above. I was able to do the cut without continuously pushing the tip of my hacksaw into the ground.

  • @jimyoung7090
    @jimyoung7090 5 лет назад +16

    Welcome to the Ryoba Club, you sound like me after I tried one. I still sound that way 8 years later. Sometimes I grab the ryoba instead of turning on the table saw.

  • @wynoh
    @wynoh 4 года назад

    I'd already ordered one of these saws when I saw this video, and was really happy to have my impression of it confirmed by someone who knows what he's doing. When it arrived, I tried it, and was completely blown away. I don't want to use it for everything, but for fine detail work it's unbeatable. I just had a length of 2x4 which I'd cut just a tiny fraction too long. This saw allowed me to shave off 2mm from it. By hand. I've saved the offcut. Brilliant series, thanks for all your help and hard work, Rex.

  • @davidmoore7115
    @davidmoore7115 2 года назад

    Excellent, concise, comprehensive, articulate and most importantly informative. Thank you Rex!

  • @Citadel1974
    @Citadel1974 Месяц назад

    Going back through your old videos is definitely interesting :) Your audio is better now and you've picked up some nice presentation techniques but your personality and teaching style was there from the beginning.
    One thing I found with pull saws is that if you tense up your hand, it doesn't cut well at all. Relax your hand and it cuts so much smoother and faster.

  • @bloodgain
    @bloodgain 5 лет назад +1

    They're great for undercutting door jambs for flooring, too. I got mine for a bathroom project, and now I love it. When it's too late to fire up the noisy power saws or I just need a couple quick cuts, out it comes. I don't mind hand-cutting with it one bit!

  • @ScottWayneJackson
    @ScottWayneJackson 5 лет назад +1

    Well done mate! I think that you're doing a really good job with these latest viseos.

  • @TheCowboyRN1
    @TheCowboyRN1 3 года назад +1

    Your killing me with these videos Rex. Great job

  • @vulpsturm
    @vulpsturm Год назад

    I used one back in college wood working and recently was gifted one. I absolutely love it. Half the fun is learning a new way of using tools.

  • @thomasstuart6861
    @thomasstuart6861 4 года назад +11

    I tried to saw with the blade reversed in a hacksaw. I was so impressed I am going to put it in upside down.

  • @johnvrabec9747
    @johnvrabec9747 2 года назад

    I just started using a Japanese dovetail pull saw for the first time yesterday and it's a game changer. Going to buy a pull saw next. And, you can't beat the price, even for an inexpensive one. They work so well and easy. Thanks for the nice review!

  • @stephenjimenez9539
    @stephenjimenez9539 5 лет назад +5

    I love those types of pulls saws. My first was from harbor freight. I sill have a few of them and use them. Probably the best $10 I've ever spent.

  • @jbelme1
    @jbelme1 4 года назад +74

    I’m still using a western imperialist handsaw but I might pick up that Japanese style saw.

  • @steh8217
    @steh8217 3 года назад

    I ended up buying this one and LOVE it! Thanks for the recommendation

  • @negotiableaffections
    @negotiableaffections 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the tutorial Rex, I just bought one of these, mainly with thoughts of the flush-cut properties e.g. nipping off the ends of dowells etc. But you've just given a 101 at the right time for me, cheers again.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  5 лет назад

      Let me know how it goes for you!

  • @MyUnquenchableThirst
    @MyUnquenchableThirst 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks again for another great video Rex!

  • @matesmichalec1972
    @matesmichalec1972 5 лет назад +1

    Really good review. Nicely done!

  • @rightnow4450
    @rightnow4450 4 года назад

    Having worked doing wood floors and carpet. It's indispensable. I've had one for decades. Great little tool

  • @bbrachman
    @bbrachman 5 лет назад +4

    This is the type of saw I use most of the time for small cuts. It has another benefit. For us who need training wheels, it works great with a magnetic saw guide to start a cut.

    • @MikkosFree
      @MikkosFree 5 лет назад +1

      Very true. I too started with a magnetic guide, then moved on to using the reflection as a guide. These days im so used to it i rarely need a guide anymore.

  • @jackjkantrowitz50kantrowit12
    @jackjkantrowitz50kantrowit12 5 лет назад

    Thank you for the information. I have a HF Japanese saw and have been afraid to use it. I now feel I have the knowledge and confidence to get the most out of it. Thank you

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  5 лет назад

      Go use it! You'll be fine.

  • @renemedcraft3095
    @renemedcraft3095 5 лет назад +3

    I bought one from Lidl the other day and after seeing your video on how to use it I am more than happy with it not that I use it all the time, thanks.

  • @driedjello
    @driedjello 4 года назад +2

    I am delighted you like it, I love love love mine!

  • @billprocter942
    @billprocter942 5 лет назад +34

    If you're really strapped for money, HF has a Japanese pull saw and gets really good reviews. I have one and it works well. It cost around $10.

    • @ToddCarpenterToddPCWV
      @ToddCarpenterToddPCWV 5 лет назад +3

      I bought a HF pull saw a year ago and still love it.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  5 лет назад +5

      I'll have grab one next time I'm there!

    • @averagejoe4837
      @averagejoe4837 5 лет назад +3

      I have that saw as well. I find it easier to eyeball plumb with than my other saws, therefore I find myself reaching for it much more often. I also lean towards starting and finishing my cuts with the fine toothed edge as its easy to oversaw my stop line using the coarse side, but I just flip the saw over instead of reaching for another tool. Great time saver of a tool.

    • @red58impala
      @red58impala 5 лет назад +2

      @@RexKrueger I believe the ones at HF are impulse hardened, so in theory should last longer than some of the much nicer Japanese made saws. Check out the pistol gripped pull saw they sell as well. It is very sharp and leaves a nice surface similar to what you showed in your video.

    • @grammie5825
      @grammie5825 4 года назад

      Average Joe v

  • @pthelynese
    @pthelynese 4 года назад +1

    Got mine today!!! Can't wait to use it when the snow melts...

  • @estebanfernandez5393
    @estebanfernandez5393 3 года назад

    Thanks Rex! Good review (as always 🙂)

  • @mrpdc86
    @mrpdc86 3 года назад +1

    What I like about Rex's video's: his lines sound scripted, but it works :) keep it up, I'm learning a lot!

  • @dutchyplays7793
    @dutchyplays7793 4 года назад

    When I was wondering what I wanted to do I have deciding between Wood work, Metal work and programming. I went for programming as it has a better secure in the future. But wood and metal work is always an interest. I do not know how I got to your channel but hey. I like it a lot! I might actually follow some and start wood work. Thank you! You make it look really fun.

  • @dennisshoemaker2789
    @dennisshoemaker2789 4 года назад

    I love your videos! This is saw is part of the reason I'm glad I found your channel. I moved to Japan about 20 years ago. Western tools were and still are very hard to come by. I can honestly say that I only own one saw. It's that double sided pull saw. It took some getting used to, but I have made so many things with it I doubt I'll go back to a western saw. But I do have a skill saw. ;)
    I have a budget hand tool project that I'm sure viewers would love to see. I made a round top pirate chest with my son when he was about 8 years old. We had a great time building it with common hand tools, minus the hinges and such.

  • @motomuto3313
    @motomuto3313 5 лет назад +6

    I have 2 Japanese pull saws. I use 1 for fine work and the other to harvest branches while out in the field. I love my Japanese saws.

  • @th34lch3m1st
    @th34lch3m1st 5 лет назад +8

    That's the blade I bought two months ago. Last item on amazon Italy, special price of 7.5€ (Vaughan 569-32 250RBD Replacement Blade for Bear Hand Saw with Double Edged Blade, 10-Inch). Now the replacement blade is not available on amazon Italy, but the price has raised to 41,76€, I think because of import taxes and shipment costs. I have made a wooden handle for it, and since then I practically have used just this saw. The cross-cut side is amazing and it cut very thin and straight. It's my first Japanese saw, but the blade seems of good quality to me, especially for the price I paid.

  • @matthewcarpenter4716
    @matthewcarpenter4716 5 лет назад +1

    I have been eyeballing one of these for a few months now!
    Thank you for the video!
    LOL! I told you before, You are SiFu!

  • @davdud101
    @davdud101 5 лет назад +7

    I bought a cheap Harbor Freight one and honestly it's been one of my favorite and most frequently-used purchases for hand tools in my shop. Once it dulls out I'll definitely upgrade to something much nicer, as I love the overall function of the pull saw.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 5 лет назад +1

      I have spent thousands on japanese saws and I am not sure it was worth it but I love them. I also have thousand dollar European saws as well. I have my grandfathers dovetail saws and still use them.

  • @blakeumthun8128
    @blakeumthun8128 5 лет назад +1

    I ABSOLUTELY LOVE MY RYOBA!!!!! They are cheap (even the "expensive" gyokucho's) and super easy to use. I would recommend that every newbie get one or more. Even experienced woodworkers that have never used the Japanese style saws, will find them a dream to work with. My western saws just sit there wondering if they'll ever be used again.

  • @averagejoe4837
    @averagejoe4837 5 лет назад +1

    Another great video. I like your style. It's obvious that you're passionate about it and put a great amount of thought and effort into your videos. As a beginner to woodworking, I was wondering if you could do a Q & A format video some time.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  5 лет назад +1

      I could do that. I've done it for my Patrons before.

  • @DylanGuitar525
    @DylanGuitar525 4 года назад

    We used these in woodworking class, so awesome!

  • @davidwootton683
    @davidwootton683 5 лет назад +1

    I bought one with 2 different blades. Wonderful saws. Well worth getting to know.

  • @1Thatstrangeguy
    @1Thatstrangeguy 4 года назад

    I'v been using pull saws for about a year and its one of my go to tools.

  • @webmozaic
    @webmozaic 4 года назад

    Got one recently, love it.
    It's also really good on thin plywood as it minimises tearout, and also cellular uPVC like siding panels same reason.
    One tip, if you're flush cutting cut in line with the grain of the main piece not the one being cut, so if you do catch a tooth then it's less noticeable than if you're going across the grain.

  • @furiousfurby
    @furiousfurby 3 года назад

    Purchased the Irwin version at my local big box hardware store and it works very well. I’ll have to start investing in more.

  • @brianfoley4328
    @brianfoley4328 4 года назад +1

    What an interesting video....I'm no great woodworker, in fact I suck at it...but I'm getting better and I'm going to buy one of these before I'm completely addicted to traditional Western push saw...Thanks.

  • @andymckenzie8031
    @andymckenzie8031 5 лет назад +5

    A decent ryoba is absolutely worth the money for a new woodworker. A couple of things to keep an eye on, though:
    1) The teeth are impulse hardened, which means you can't sharpen them. You'll probably get a few years out of the saw, and then it will stop cutting well. At that point, you should cut off the teeth and make it into a couple of scrapers.
    2) Some of these saws have uneven set, so they'll cut a curved line if you're not paying attention. The one I have right now has just a little bit more set on the right side, but only on the rip cut teeth. So crosscuting (or ripping with the smaller teeth) works great, but long rips tend to curve to the right. That also means I can't use that side of the blade against a flat surface for flush cutting, though the other side works fine.
    For a $20 tool, though, it's fantastic!

    • @TheOneTheyCallDean
      @TheOneTheyCallDean Год назад

      I would like to add my own tips to yours as well my friend.
      -Pull saws come in different sizes. The wider/taller our blade, the easier is to maintain a straight cut. The saw in this video is a moderate sized saw. While you can resaw lumber with it, it won't be nearly as effortless to maintain a straight cut as would a saw that was wider/taller. You will save yourself a lot of headache if you use a saw that is appropriately sized for the job.
      -It will take time and practice to build up the muscles to use the saw well, but once we do, a pull saw can be one of the most versatile tools when it comes to wood working for quick, accurate, reliable, and low waste cuts. (Even more accurate than a budget bandsaw 🌎☀️)
      -If you are skilled with a rotary tool (with a thin cut off wheel and magnifying glasses,) we can sharpen these blades ourselves if they ever become dull. It takes time, practice, patience, and a steady hand, but it is possible to greatly extend any disposable saw's service life.
      -If you're not able to find a pull saw/carpentry saw, with a large/wide enough blade for long and accurate rip cuts, a carefully sharpened western saw may provide you one of the best and easy ways to maintain a relatively effortless straight cut. While they have are thicker blades which removes more kerf, they can be much easier for first time users to adopt due to the control that the vertical 'pistol grips' gives us over controlling the orientation of our saw to help keep them level. You're also able to take advantage of the longer length of the blade to guide your cuts as well.
      -Let the saw do the work. Our best results will always be when we're not tense and overthinking the results of our work.
      As with any tool that we use, we always get better over time. 😊🌎❤️

  • @lukewarmwater6412
    @lukewarmwater6412 5 лет назад +2

    yes! absolutely!! they are great for pruning trees and scores of other jobs around the house!!

  • @MarkMcCluney
    @MarkMcCluney 5 лет назад +2

    Really excellent vid Rex, thank you. I think I'm sold...

  • @zafardurrani9544
    @zafardurrani9544 4 года назад

    Once again Thank you for providing the best information about Japanese hand
    Saw also Thank you for this wonderful video

  • @scottsimpey2965
    @scottsimpey2965 5 лет назад +2

    Great video once again Rex. I have a Japanese pull saw, not the ryoba, that is single sided but has the same style handle as the ryoba. I find that I reach for the pull saw far more often than I do the western style saw that I have unless I just need to a rough piece for something. I find that the pull saw actually cuts faster, maybe just because I’m able to get it started quicker.

  • @ericrickert3045
    @ericrickert3045 3 года назад

    Got one made by Irwin. Love it for applications you pointed out. It seems high quality and not the cheapest one, but the handle feels nice. This was nice explanationalism!

  • @yetanotherperson6436
    @yetanotherperson6436 5 лет назад +1

    Your presentation skills are excellent. Very clear, fun and concise. I would love to build a low bench like that. If I have space in my new place I will build one.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  5 лет назад +1

      Just make is short enough to fit whatever space you've got. Even 4 feet would work.

  • @btolton3419
    @btolton3419 5 лет назад +2

    I got this exact same saw 2 years ago, and I can't remember picking up my back-saw or rip saw since. this, plus a coping saw does it all for me now for small stuff.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  5 лет назад

      I need to build a turning saw. I just don't like coping saws.

  • @borislum1998
    @borislum1998 3 года назад

    hi Rex. glad you are using the Japanese pull saw. the ergonomics plus accurate cuts are great. if you are ever in Japan, you can get pull saws pretty cheap plus spare replacement blades are cheap too. the saws are designed to replace blades. i bought one with spare blades, but wished i had bought more for my friends. great videos and i learn lots. love your humour (I am Canadian) and love your counter offer on that super mallet.

  • @mothman-jz8ug
    @mothman-jz8ug 5 лет назад +1

    Great video! Thanks for the info.

  • @SamveenGulati
    @SamveenGulati 3 года назад

    Rex, I saw this video only after I had finished making my own Dozuki (single sided japanese saw) using a $10 japanese-made replacement blade off amazon and an old bamboo shoot. Bamboo is completely solid at the base, where the segments are just half an inch apart or so, and nicely tapered to work with a pull stroke. Tools needed was a drill, a small file and the saw blade itself. Hardware needed was a rivet and a screw clamp. Time required : half an hour of work plus shopping and shipping time.
    You are right about the straight and unforgiving: a slow pull of the saw creates a perfect trench in the wood, especially softwoods.
    Edit: the blade was titled "ZETSAW 08003 Utility Decora H240"

  • @nicstroud
    @nicstroud 4 года назад +5

    I've been watching youtube videos for ages now and it seems like everyone is using them all of a sudden. I wondered if it wasn't a bit of a fad and if they were a bit of a fashion accesory but now I've seen your video I'm going to give it a go. I had no idea they were finer but your explanation of them being in tension makes perfect sense.
    Good videos by the way, I never feel alienated. Some videos make me loose interest the minute the $200 plane comes out or the $500 chisel set. Keep up the good work.

  • @SlytigerSurvival
    @SlytigerSurvival 2 года назад

    Ha I love the intro. I really appreciate your videos!

  • @NotSoCrazyNinja
    @NotSoCrazyNinja 5 лет назад

    My first saw purchase was a saw similar to this but imported from Japan for a similar price. I fell in love with it. It cuts so nicely compared to pretty much any other hand saw I have used up until this point. My tool set is limited currently, but I would highly suggest this type of saw if you need a good hand saw to make fine cuts. Well worth the cost, which is not even that much to begin with.

  • @therealzilch
    @therealzilch 3 года назад

    Thanks, Rex, another nice video. I switched to Japanese saws forty years ago and never went back. You have to be more careful about the saws binding in long cuts, and the cross cut teeth can break if you're too brutal, but the advantages you mention make them well worth the effort of learning to use them.
    Another advantage you didn't mention is that because of the smaller kerf, they also take less energy to make the same cut, all other things being equal. This is especially important for me as a bowmaker who works with _really_ hard woods, such as pernambuco, snakewood, and ironwood. And if you do break a blade, they make great scrapers.
    cheers from sunny Vienna, visit my workshop if you're ever in town, Scott

  • @michaelbradford4444
    @michaelbradford4444 Год назад

    Definitely a game changer for any woodworker!

  • @24.k.g.f.97
    @24.k.g.f.97 Год назад +1

    I appreciate the woodworking guide being hand tailored by humans for humans.

  • @hardstylelife5749
    @hardstylelife5749 Год назад

    I should start watching your videos before purchasing anything else lol most of the problems and questions I’m wrapping my head around for days are already explained one after the other on this channel

  • @bobguy3939
    @bobguy3939 4 года назад

    Super useful video, thank you.

  • @billietyree6139
    @billietyree6139 5 лет назад +1

    I have a double sided pull saw like the one he demonstrated and am using it to cut spruce wood in sizes from 3 inch by 3/4 inch down to 1/4 by 1/2 inch. I have found that by letting the weight of the blade do the cutting I get smooth and splinter free cuts. The greatest thing about the saw, I think, is the control you have.

  • @ga5712
    @ga5712 4 года назад +2

    I love the fact you get that most of us don't have the cash to get anything but the cheap basics 👍

  • @Blastsniper
    @Blastsniper 2 года назад

    I purchased a 180mm dozuki razorsaw. I mainly use it for small woods for lurebuilding, pretty good upgrade coming from rusty backsaws and the leatherman saw widget.

  • @visumexcipio
    @visumexcipio 3 года назад

    Have had one since y2k and use it often for various things. Love it.

  • @kylebacon8436
    @kylebacon8436 4 года назад

    the pure respect you have for you audience got you my sub.

  • @mortmort8633
    @mortmort8633 4 года назад

    Also fantastic for overhead work!

  • @bobnicholas5994
    @bobnicholas5994 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks Rex interesting info.