Helpful and timely video, even for a level 470 player like myself. 😅 I like your philosophy: if you aren't using it, get rid of it. I need to consider this more.
@@JustinEdge-i3i if you still need to know, if you’re on console than while in pip-boy push your select button. (You can only see what buttons do what at the bottom of your screen as long as you didn’t remove this in settings.)
must be the worst cloud storage plan ever. gdrive premiun with 2TB for 9,99€ /month is the same price point. A Fallout 4 savegame is between 4-25 MB accoring to bing gpt. In a worst case scenario that'd be 80.000 Savegames. Alltime concurrent players where 73368 on on 21 April 2024. After people sending Tod Howard boby pins to weigh them, please someone gift him a gdrive account and suggest to 'store there'
@@javiarcamaro7178 Have the community create cosmetics that are exclusive to Fallout 1st. Solves having to know what players want and having to make what they want. “But the lore” The guy currently directing the lore actively retcons, rewrites and destroys lore foundational to the entire franchise. The concern for lore accuracy can’t exist when ‘accuracy’ changes constantly. Remove the stash limit, problem solved in 5 minutes. Don’t mean to preach to the choir, but Bethesda’s (Microsoft’s) direction sucks
@@denmanfite3156 Because how could they make you buy fallout 1st if they made it simple for people that didn't want to spend there money on the game lol it crazy fr
@@denmanfite3156 if they gave you a craftable scrap box then they couldn't sell you the monthly fallout 1st subscription lol, fun game but they really leaned into the mobile game tropes lol
Tip from a new player: don't let power armor pieces fill up your inventory. I didn't actually use the armor, so I wasn't sure how it all worked. Stick those pieces on a free power armor frame! I didn't know you could do that, I kept getting all these legendary armor bits and they were taking like half my inventory. Power armor frames baby! Literally turned like 600lbs into 30lbs.
Don't forget to rename frames; that way you don't waste time searching for what you need. ie T65, T45, Ultricite if you have a frame that's mixed pieces 😊
Yes. The frame weighs the same with our without the armor pieces on them. If there are pieces you don't like, you cans scrap them for a fair bit of resources per piece if you have the scrapper perk. The molded plastic is worth it if you like to bulk.
@@Bubble_0f_d00m man thank you for this. I have all these pieces of armor and I don’t know what to do with them. I didn’t want to get rid of them because some of them are dope asf but man they take up so much space
@@CookieMonster.2. You actually can take stuff back out of your stash/ammo boxes if you cancel FO1st. You just can’t put more stuff into it. I personally grabbed a month when my stash box was full & just looted everything I saw for a month so I don’t have to worry about looting/storing basic materials anymore.
@@bigimportantman1544 I know, I just wish I would’ve known that before when I had the FO1st trial. Because some of my ammo weighs me down. Mostly my 3926 308. Rounds
@@bigimportantman1544 anytime I have to do some Stash Management I usually grab all my weaker or unused weapons and sell them or turn them into script. I usually take the weapons that don’t sell for anything more than 10 caps and scrap them. I scrap all my armor except power armor because I use the power armor quite a lot and I wear the Chinese stealth suit so no extra armor necessary. I don’t ever use grenades or mines so I usually sell them or give them away in Donation Boxes. I also have so much junk that sometimes I will craft a bunch of stuff so that I lose the materials and then sell whatever I crafted for caps. Mostly because I have a insane amount of steel now.
had fallout first before not playing for year got back online a few days ago and I lost all my scrap, ammo, my whole camp is gone my and a few atom shop items I bought are gone thanks Tod. There is no transactions history in my account and support won’t help get me atleast my atom shop items back
I find it funny you mentioned getting rid of non use/needed weapons with my stash box looks like a chipmunk prepared for the winter but with ammo, weapons, and junk
just another useful tip on 1st membership. You can still draw from the 1st member's scrap/junk box even after ending the subscription, you just can't deposit more scrap into the box. So if you are on a budget like me, what you can do is buy one month of membership, then during that month, load up on as much junk as possible, and cancel after that one month. From there just keep drawing until you feel like your personal stash box is getting full again, then repeat and rinse. I probably buy 1 membership month every quarter. Just a little penny saver.
the thing about 76 that is one of it's worst features is the limitations of the stash box. they truly limit everything in the game so you're unable to truly be a hoarder which is a staple of the series.
@@MrWestTek oh believe me i know. i exclusively play 76 daily, the game isn't ruined by any means, but it should would be nice to be a true hoarder in game. :D
@@MrWestTek but it does ruin the game. One point of the game is collecting achievements in the form of treasure. Welcome to the Brotherhood, here's a cool gun. Thanks, I'll just drop that level 25 trash on the ground because I'm managing my stash box.
My biggest issue is the caps limit from NPC vendors. Haven’t really had issues with the Stash Box limit, but I also don’t have issues getting rid of items I don’t use.
Dude, sorry but you're wrong. This game is absolutely not easily playable without FO1st if you like to roll your own weapons every day. You need way too much junk to craft even basic guns like a handmade, and it gets too expensive to keep dumping/selling junk you don't use until you want more, and then have to buy it or run around wasting hours collecting it again. Re-rolling legendaries instead of crafting new weapons to roll is stupid as mitigation too, as you lose out on scrip returns doing that, before anyone suggests it. Don't fool yourselves into thinking this is anything other than by design either. This game uses nefarious methods of coercing money from it's players. It also doesn't help if you have a lot of good weapons already, like I do. I like to switch up my build from time to time because otherwise the game gets stale and boring, so I have various g'roll weapon types in my stash at any given time. Which means I have to constantly choose between either having no junk to craft with, or having to hold a ton of weapons I'm not currently using on me because I can't stash them until I use the junk, which then means I can barely move most of the time. At this point honestly, I'm getting tired of the dirty tactics Bethesda uses to squeeze cash from players, coupled with the sheer number of bugs and problems in the game. I'm looking for other games to play.
Honestly if they scrapped the whole stash limit thing it might have more people playing the game because 99% of fallout players hoard everything naturally
I just sort each tab in my stash by stack weight then pick out all of the heaviest stuff that I don't need. Thank you for explaining all of the junk items, it was very helpful! ❤
I think the Perk Cards do not affect your stash box. It's just a bug. You can try to remove the items and you'll see the real numbers. That's why you're better off having all items on you if you have a perk card or a backpack with weigh reduction.
Watch your boiled water accumulation. It's probably the most common loot. I had 150 lb of it on me yesterday and didn't even realize it. Holy Moly. You know I took a big boiled water dump, right there in the road. =D
As a long time Fallout player but new 76 player this is so helpful! I have been storing my power armor in pieces because I had no idea you could store it with the pieces on, especially since I can't wear armor with the pieces yet. Thanks for all the tips!
The most important thing to remember with inventory management: item weights differ depending on your active perks, and body/power armor special effects. Stacking these % bonuses (like Traveling Pharmacy with a -20% food/chem weight, or Pack Rat and -20% junk weight), so your stash box should really just be for items with weight you can’t reduce, items for sale, and items you absolutely cannot carry. Make or look for deep-pocketed 3* Legendary body armor pieces that have different % reductions. This is how you carry around more than your stash box can hold.
My personal favorite combo is Batteries Included and -20% ammo weight, so I can easily carry around 50+ fusion cores on the first rank of the perk card.
The most useful might be Bear Arms and -20% weapon weight, making my heavy weapons weigh about 2-3lbs each. I’ll just remain a walking arsenal indefinitely to avoid them switching back to like 20lbs in my stash.
@@Joeljaboy I'm guilty of carrying around 60+ weapons on my main. He hasn't been able to fast travel for 6 months because I'm such a hoarder. lol. Fun though. I'm just starting to vendor items I haven't touched in a while and getting used to selling things in order to fund my new interest in Aristocrats weapons and Overeater's armour.
This type of instructional video is always welcome, a bastard for newbies that can take a long while to figure out. I didn’t figure it out until level 70 or so. Good work West Tek dude, I am certain a lot people will benefit from this. Have a good day all and will catch up in the wasteland……
Kinda wish there was a CAMP house display item that lets you toss perk cards onto it that would benefit your camp. Such as ammo crafting, armor crafting weapon crafting etc. so we dont have to keep flip flopping back and forth for crafting.
That's what the perk loadout thing you build in your CAMP is for. Have a crafting/homebase loadout and an adventure/fighting one, maybe. I have 3 loadouts, Crafting, Bloodied (SS armor), PowerArmor Nuke Zone. Only takes a moment to change between them. Just sucks when you teleport to an event and realise you still have your crafting loadout enabled. :)
westy thanks for always making quality content and not filler bullshit for newbies and veterans alike. straight to the point easy to digest and informative. cant stand the idiots who make clickbait titles. keep it up hermano
Ive discovered a lot of weight can be removed by drastically reducing the amount of chems and stimpacks i hold onto. In addition to whatever food i take, along with a few nuka-cherrys cuz damn are they helpful with the perk, i never carry more than 5 stims. Chances are really good you'll find plenty while you're exploring and its a really common reward for quests. Get them caps instead
Thanks for the great video. I confess i do FO 1st once or twice a year( usually as a B-day present to myself) so i can fill my scrap box and now my ammo stash now that thats a thing which helps a lot , you can still pull from it after you lose FO 1st you just cant store it anymore ( pretty sure you can't store it ).
@@aaftiyoDkcdicurakDude you’re just cheap if you won’t pay the 45 cents a day for your enjoyment. It’s a huge progress killer, have fun micro-managing the entire time you play😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I would usually store junk which is hard to get. The rest which is easy to get, I would just go farm them when I need them. The bulking thing was new for me. I did not know that it did not make any difference and I was wasting my precious molded plastics. Thanks for the tip.
I don't store ANY weapons (except grenades/mines I find, so I can sell them once the vendors caps restock) I don't store ANY armor (except the one power armor frame) I don't store ANY apparel (except a Hazmat Suit) I have a handful of foods (and my extra Purified Waters) I have barely any "aid" (never use any except RadX, RadAway and Stimpacks) I don't store any Misc (because most of 'em can't be stored to begin with) I toss in any HoloTapes I can I toss in most Notes I can (but I sell any plans/recipes I already know) I never keep any Mods, because they're for things I don't have/use (so far) I have a fair amount of ammo, but I try not to have too many (especially things like the missiles) Junk is the bane of my existence. I barely have more than 100-200 of everything (with a few being in the 10's, and a handful being nonexistent) and yet I'm always stuck around 1100/1200
Funny thing regarding canned dog food, during the beta and after launch I took the triple benefit from dog food perk, friends laughed and joked, but I wasn't the one that was always hungry
One thing I will say about ammo is to invest in an ammo converter don't just drop it.... if you put all the low selling and unusable ammo in there gain points over time and get the ammo you use.... save you a little bit on crafting ammo materials... and you can replace your high sellers in the vendor with that if you choose also
Plastic is useful for shotgun shell ammo. I use armor perks and spent quite a bit rolling a few but you can get 20% reduction on ammo or weapons or the best one I like is food, drink AND chems. Power armor also can get these legendary perks. Plus if you are real lucky you can get plus 1 strength on them. Weapons and armor if you happen to get the 90% weight perk more with heavier guns those work so nice. Last but not least it may take a while but getting the scout large backpack and then the mod for the expanded that’s an extra 120 carry weight. There are other mods but a universal one works for me.
great video...i'm a dummy, didn't realize until watching this that weight was eating up my stash space. i have a bunch of power armor i don't use that i see is eating up a ton of space
Thanks for this video. I hit the 1200 lbs from hoarding and forgetting about the items. This video helped me knock it down to 650 lol. Had 200 lbs of legendary stuff collected and forgotten about
Hi, for our new friends who'd like to manage their stims and rads alternatively to stashing. Equip luck stim/rad find perk when needed. (Rinse and repeat perks when appropriate)
@@TheHellsAngel666 thru hiker has the same 90% less food weight so I essentially use three star perk to get 60 more carry weight. In the end they achieve the same goal.
Thanks for the video. I've been hoarding cloths like nurse uniforms and those darn hats. I know maps aren't much but I have way too many and I only went farming maps one time. I try to keep at least 1 of each plan so when I start a new character, I can move everything over and learn them right off the bat then store them again. But yeah it's past time for spring cleaning.
One of my characters has 16 power armor frames all full of PA pieces of script. Also useful to carry an empty frame out on your adventures in case you get some PA drops.
Thru hiker and travelling pharmacy are really good perks. I wouldn’t bother putting food in my stash box. Especially nuka cola. Since they weigh like 1.
Another good tip for inventory management is the ammo converter. You can essentially bank a fraction of the ammo you have by converting it all into points then just withdrawing ammo when you need it. Especially heavy stuff like missiles. The return rate isnt the greatest but ammo is common enough that you dont have to worry about it too much
Awesome video! Something I noticed you don't really touch on is the use of mules. If you have a friend, then its not hard to swap items between characters. I have an account literally just called mule, who's stash and inventory has hit max. Which is just all the stuff I never want to get rid of or scrap. I think you can have 1200 space in your stash and then 1650 pounds for your maximum inventory space.
Im level 120, have fallout 1st with all my junk and ammo stored for free, and use the aid carry weight perks so I don't store any meds in stash and 1200 lbs is still not enough storage if you want to be able to keep more than one set of gear and still have a vendor. An increase to 1500 would be extremely appreciated but id prefer 2000.
Great motto.... if you dont use it, sell it or drop it. Good video. Covered it well. I just got FO76 First and it cured my inventory problem. Plus it has encouraged me to keep a tighter reign on things. I am a Fallout explorer and hoarder from Fallout 3 onward. Just the piece of mind First gives me is immeasurable.
As a newer player I run out of these....lvl 55 I need to farm or buy: Aluminum Springs (clipboards and lighters - head to Sugar Grove to get like 30 springs each time) Lead (make sure to pick up those pencils everywhere you find them) Ballistic Fiber (I tend to buy these from vendors) Adhesive (I pick up any and all duct tape I can find)
In ESO you can pay in game currency to upgrade your bag and your bank, plus stuff on sale doesnt take up spqce, dont see why its significantly more annoying here when the whole point of the game was having people be the traders.
Thanks for the help, my stash was suffering. Very helpful vid! Also I can't help but notice what sounds like a remix of Theater from Jak X music in the background, nice. 😄
Tip today i found out during events if you use a cannon with explosive shots youll get a ridiculous amount of cannon balls back. Youll then take these and exchange them on the ammo converter. It gives 2000 points per 200 rounds which is 1-2 events depending on the enemy. You wont have ammo taking up space if its points.
I had no idea. I've been trying to figure out how to manage my power armor. I had moved every thing to an alt but that's such a hassle. This is great. Soon as I get home I'm doing this. Thank you for the tip
I picked up 76 three weeks ago, your informative videos are a huge help thanks brotha. 🔥I challenge you to put together an updated build video, maybe some combos of PA and non-PA. TIA
Some tips from a Level 200-ish player. This is how I keep my stash box clean and have around 100 pounds of breathing room for emergency situations WITHOUT Fallout 1st: 1. Like MrWestTek says in the video, if you aren't using it, get rid of it. Sell it or drop it 2. There's 5 major things that will put alot of weight in your stash box: Weapons, Armor, Medicine, Junk, and ammo 3. Only keep up to 5 of each type of medicine that isn't stimpaks. As for stimpaks, keep as little of them as your build will allow. Stimpaks especially will weigh you down FAST 4. Only keep up to 200 or less of each type of junk no matter what it is. At least this is what I find alot of success with as a melee build user. Other builds might need more junk. Essentially, try to keep as little junk as possible. It will help keep your weight under control
After a week of playing, you don't really need to stash any food, there are more than enough places that you can fast travel and kill some Brahmins, the NPCs will not attack you. With the extra meat from animals you can get from SPECIAL cards, it really shouldn't be a biggie. Except if you wanna use get the buff stats. But if I'm not mistaken, both Radstag and Brahmin (when cooked) will net you +20 carry weight for like 30min or something.
This'll be super useful, thanks for making this video! I think of things I'm likely to hoard, it'll be important materials (Once I figure out what I need) and Apparel, because I want to look stylish when wandering the wasteland!
If you’ve got items in the vendor that don’t get sold, usually power armor or weapons with no legendaries, then it’s best to scrap them or sell them at an npc vendor. I had 2 power armor sets that took up around 200 lbs of space in my vendor that never got sold, plus it opened the doors for more caps to be made with additional vendor slots.
I've been playing for about a month now, and after a couple weeks decided, I'm going to be using rifles, while keeping 1 good melee in my personal inventory with 1 pistol and 1 shotgun as a backup, and made a choice keep a couple heavies in my inventory just incase. So no energy weapons. So getting rid of all of my energy weapons, and fuel cells, lightened up my stash by almost 300. So I think the biggest thing, is to decide what you want your armor type and weapon type to be and theb scrap all the rest or just leave it and don't pick it up, and it has made me be able to manage my inventory and stash without Fall1st. it's for sure manageable.
Nyke is in a tough predicament here. He can either fix his grammar mistake & lose mrwesttek’s like on his comment or continue to get bad spelling comments under his original comment 😂😂😂
thanks for the vid even with Fallout 1st I'm a hoarder. As far as I've seen bulking only saves weight on a couple of the scrap types and also then wastes the plastic (so I would give that a miss unless its steel or lead I think)
At around 20 mins in your video, when discussing Junk, I expected you to bring up making scrapped junk bulk, a la bulk lead, bulk steel, via the Tinker’s Workbench. As a non FO1st player, that saves even more weight in your stash, and you can sell bulk to vendors. I find after you are done with your camp, you really don’t need concrete, and repair kits take care of actually repairing things at workbenches.
Thank you @MrWestTek I stumbled across your RUclips channel/videos recently, and I really appreciate your content Sir, and you have been a BIG help to me and my Fallout 76 level 58 power armor build character. I'm kinda stuck at the moment, I have 4 unused perks from leveling up that I don't know how to get used for perks and what not atm. Thanks again for your help Sir
I'm kinda confused how the stash weight is shown....for instance, it shows my current stash weight (inventory) is 1157/1200, yet when i took the time to add every item in my stash i get 812. I even added all of the
You know its a garbage system when someone needs to make a 30 minute video on organizing an inventory screen. I wont be trying this dumpster fire again lol. Absolutely regret preordering it
Just buy fallout 1st it’s only around 45 cents a day. He made a video to help people who need help, it’s not an issue for most who understand the game. Either pay the 45 cents a day for your enjoyment or have fun micromanaging your entire play through.
Tip: Have 2+ characters made. Have a friend stay on a world while you use a box somewhere in the world to stash stuff you dont need in your box, remember that location and then switch to your second made character, then have them pick it all up. Ininfite stash capacity
My stash has been full since I started playing. Today I decided to create a second account on my ps4 and just pick everything up, tired of hoarding legacies.
It's probably a good idea if you're keeping weapons in the stash box and not using them to take off the extra mods and break them down to the simplest form.
What would you recommend with scrap. I still miss a lot of things but im sure i have a bunch of useless scrap and it usually takes up 5-700lb should i just drop some?
Why do i feel like he made this video sound way more simple than the reality lol. Especially trying to keep a nicely stocked shop the space is just a non stop struggle
i use a dash, but i also sort them through acronym, like -melee- or -10mm- or -LA- (for left arm), been doing that since aol in the late 90s lol windows has a sorting/indexing issue where you also have to use triple digits for accurate file keeping, for example 001-999 will keep them in order as the 0s creates a micromanagement system within the title/name. this is also very usefull for youtube playlists yall, like for realz use the 000 system if you have paylists on here haha
You guy probably already know but another way to clear stash space is to equip your PA pieces to chasis and store the whole unit in there instead of the game registering the weight of individual parts it will only register the weight of the chasis. As a PA merchant this is a must do.
Yes dude! Nice advice. Didnt know hardly any of this last year when i started. YES- it is load bearing… CLAIM TOKENS!!!! You can trade them in outside the entrance of the mine.. they give you junk and random ammo I believe. THEY WEIGH SO DAMN MUCH. So yeah, there are better ways to get scrap and ammo without holding 5k lbs of tokens!
I have Fallout 1st, Level 590, over 2k hours in the game, and my stash box rarely exceeds 800 lbs, yet I watched this entire video like a Day 1 n00b. And thank you, I hope you have a fantastic day also. ❤😊
Helpful and timely video, even for a level 470 player like myself. 😅
I like your philosophy: if you aren't using it, get rid of it. I need to consider this more.
Me too buddy. Sometimes you just have to let things go ...
@@MrWestTekI never let things go. Stay toxic kings👑
@@MrWestTek how you rename it ?
@@JustinEdge-i3i if you still need to know, if you’re on console than while in pip-boy push your select button. (You can only see what buttons do what at the bottom of your screen as long as you didn’t remove this in settings.)
If I go and see I can rename power armor, I will be ecstatic
The stash really should not have a weight limit, its literally a game based around hording equipment.
must be the worst cloud storage plan ever. gdrive premiun with 2TB for 9,99€ /month is the same price point. A Fallout 4 savegame is between 4-25 MB accoring to bing gpt.
In a worst case scenario that'd be 80.000 Savegames. Alltime concurrent players where 73368 on on 21 April 2024. After people sending Tod Howard boby pins to weigh them, please someone gift him a gdrive account and suggest to 'store there'
Biggest videogame scam
@@E_Proxy scam? 💀 please look up definitions for words
@@dxveclipsnips7435 i think you should follow your own advice. So the next time you won't look as dumb as now 🫥
@@manidontcare5146 when did you find out you were retarded?
stash space is the single biggest issue in the game for me
Oh yeah it sucks, it's how they get people to pay for the subscription and be able to stash tons of things without affecting the stash box.
Sorting out stash space takes out so much time of gameplay..
@@javiarcamaro7178 Have the community create cosmetics that are exclusive to Fallout 1st. Solves having to know what players want and having to make what they want.
“But the lore”
The guy currently directing the lore actively retcons, rewrites and destroys lore foundational to the entire franchise. The concern for lore accuracy can’t exist when ‘accuracy’ changes constantly.
Remove the stash limit, problem solved in 5 minutes.
Don’t mean to preach to the choir, but Bethesda’s (Microsoft’s) direction sucks
@@generaldietrich bro same I spend to much time trying to reduce storage before I even hit the road…
Same
They should make a quest for a bigger stash box
Or a craft able material sink. 🤷 Give players options to solve problems I don't get how devs can't understand this simple point
@@denmanfite3156 Because how could they make you buy fallout 1st if they made it simple for people that didn't want to spend there money on the game lol it crazy fr
@@denmanfite3156 if they gave you a craftable scrap box then they couldn't sell you the monthly fallout 1st subscription lol, fun game but they really leaned into the mobile game tropes lol
Tip from a new player: don't let power armor pieces fill up your inventory. I didn't actually use the armor, so I wasn't sure how it all worked. Stick those pieces on a free power armor frame! I didn't know you could do that, I kept getting all these legendary armor bits and they were taking like half my inventory. Power armor frames baby! Literally turned like 600lbs into 30lbs.
Don't forget to rename frames; that way you don't waste time searching for what you need. ie T65, T45, Ultricite if you have a frame that's mixed pieces 😊
Wait, so putting the pieces of armor on an power armor frame and then put it in your stash lowers the weight of it?
Yes. The frame weighs the same with our without the armor pieces on them. If there are pieces you don't like, you cans scrap them for a fair bit of resources per piece if you have the scrapper perk. The molded plastic is worth it if you like to bulk.
That actually works thanks
@@Bubble_0f_d00m man thank you for this. I have all these pieces of armor and I don’t know what to do with them. I didn’t want to get rid of them because some of them are dope asf but man they take up so much space
Tip. Your perk cards for weight don't apply when it's not carried on your personal inventory. Meaning it weighs different in your stash.
Yeah, it says so on the card. (in your inventory)
Yes and i hate that so much
Think thats bad, your backpack doesn’t work in power armor
@@mr.redpanda- well yeah.. it wouldn’t make sense if it did
@@mr.redpanda-plus you get extra carry weight from power armour anyways so it kinda balances out
game would be 10x more enjoyable if scrap box and ammo box wasnt fo1
Yeah, like I could get if it was fo1st to place, but why can’t we keep using it afterwards
@@CookieMonster.2. You actually can take stuff back out of your stash/ammo boxes if you cancel FO1st.
You just can’t put more stuff into it.
I personally grabbed a month when my stash box was full & just looted everything I saw for a month so I don’t have to worry about looting/storing basic materials anymore.
@@bigimportantman1544 I know, I just wish I would’ve known that before when I had the FO1st trial. Because some of my ammo weighs me down. Mostly my 3926 308. Rounds
@@bigimportantman1544 anytime I have to do some Stash Management I usually grab all my weaker or unused weapons and sell them or turn them into script. I usually take the weapons that don’t sell for anything more than 10 caps and scrap them. I scrap all my armor except power armor because I use the power armor quite a lot and I wear the Chinese stealth suit so no extra armor necessary. I don’t ever use grenades or mines so I usually sell them or give them away in Donation Boxes. I also have so much junk that sometimes I will craft a bunch of stuff so that I lose the materials and then sell whatever I crafted for caps. Mostly because I have a insane amount of steel now.
had fallout first before not playing for year got back online a few days ago and I lost all my scrap, ammo, my whole camp is gone my and a few atom shop items I bought are gone thanks Tod. There is no transactions history in my account and support won’t help get me atleast my atom shop items back
I find it funny you mentioned getting rid of non use/needed weapons with my stash box looks like a chipmunk prepared for the winter but with ammo, weapons, and junk
These is mine too 😂😂😂
As it should my friend, as it should.
just another useful tip on 1st membership.
You can still draw from the 1st member's scrap/junk box even after ending the subscription, you just can't deposit more scrap into the box. So if you are on a budget like me, what you can do is buy one month of membership, then during that month, load up on as much junk as possible, and cancel after that one month. From there just keep drawing until you feel like your personal stash box is getting full again, then repeat and rinse. I probably buy 1 membership month every quarter.
Just a little penny saver.
What about the outfits and stuff? Like if I was wearing the ranger gear then cancelled would I be naked?
@@thesus4499 No you could wear it if you crafted it at least that was the case for me.
the thing about 76 that is one of it's worst features is the limitations of the stash box. they truly limit everything in the game so you're unable to truly be a hoarder which is a staple of the series.
I wouldn't let something that can be managed ruin the game for me though.
@@MrWestTek oh believe me i know. i exclusively play 76 daily, the game isn't ruined by any means, but it should would be nice to be a true hoarder in game. :D
@@MrWestTek but it does ruin the game. One point of the game is collecting achievements in the form of treasure. Welcome to the Brotherhood, here's a cool gun. Thanks, I'll just drop that level 25 trash on the ground because I'm managing my stash box.
It’s just to squeeze more money out of the player base. There is no reason the scrap box should be locked behind a paid subscription lmao
My biggest issue is the caps limit from NPC vendors. Haven’t really had issues with the Stash Box limit, but I also don’t have issues getting rid of items I don’t use.
Dude, sorry but you're wrong.
This game is absolutely not easily playable without FO1st if you like to roll your own weapons every day.
You need way too much junk to craft even basic guns like a handmade, and it gets too expensive to keep dumping/selling junk you don't use until you want more, and then have to buy it or run around wasting hours collecting it again.
Re-rolling legendaries instead of crafting new weapons to roll is stupid as mitigation too, as you lose out on scrip returns doing that, before anyone suggests it.
Don't fool yourselves into thinking this is anything other than by design either. This game uses nefarious methods of coercing money from it's players.
It also doesn't help if you have a lot of good weapons already, like I do. I like to switch up my build from time to time because otherwise the game gets stale and boring, so I have various g'roll weapon types in my stash at any given time. Which means I have to constantly choose between either having no junk to craft with, or having to hold a ton of weapons I'm not currently using on me because I can't stash them until I use the junk, which then means I can barely move most of the time.
At this point honestly, I'm getting tired of the dirty tactics Bethesda uses to squeeze cash from players, coupled with the sheer number of bugs and problems in the game. I'm looking for other games to play.
Honestly if they scrapped the whole stash limit thing it might have more people playing the game because 99% of fallout players hoard everything naturally
@@-Blitzo wow… a YT comment that’s actually of value? You’re right on the money 100%
If you’re broke just say that
I just sort each tab in my stash by stack weight then pick out all of the heaviest stuff that I don't need. Thank you for explaining all of the junk items, it was very helpful! ❤
No problem! Thanks for watching :)
yeah, should have mentioned sorting by weight in the misc and notes tab. Saves a lot of time.
@@RikiB how do u sort by weight ??
@@s0l0-_-patek92press L3 and scroll through option; sort (alphabetically), weight, stack weight, spoil etc.
Stash wouldn’t be a problem if ammo didn’t weigh nothing at all.
Esp for railway spikes they weigh a ton
I'm a Fallout 1st player, have the unlimited ammo stash box....trust me, it's still a problem. Stash box needs to be 2000lbs
I think the Perk Cards do not affect your stash box. It's just a bug. You can try to remove the items and you'll see the real numbers. That's why you're better off having all items on you if you have a perk card or a backpack with weigh reduction.
especially fusion cores/ammo. Thanks for commenting!
Watch your boiled water accumulation. It's probably the most common loot. I had 150 lb of it on me yesterday and didn't even realize it. Holy Moly. You know I took a big boiled water dump, right there in the road. =D
By being limited to 1200 pounds junk stash box by not being 1st it is insane to see what your junk weighs.
Shi mine rn weighs like 2k lmao
If it was even raised to 2k to 3k would help a lot
Guys, we went from
300
400
500
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1200
I wish they would give us the option to sell ammo
I just give it all away in the donation boxes.
@@cattony7479 sometimes I just do if it's not what I'm using
You can use an ammo converter to get ammo credits or sell it to real players. List for $1 per round and it'll go fast.
@@connorreck5910 I tried that but its the shared container spread I don't like
As a long time Fallout player but new 76 player this is so helpful! I have been storing my power armor in pieces because I had no idea you could store it with the pieces on, especially since I can't wear armor with the pieces yet. Thanks for all the tips!
ca 12:40 Hint: You can sort the list by weight, so that the heaviest things are listed at the top.
The most important thing to remember with inventory management: item weights differ depending on your active perks, and body/power armor special effects. Stacking these % bonuses (like Traveling Pharmacy with a -20% food/chem weight, or Pack Rat and -20% junk weight), so your stash box should really just be for items with weight you can’t reduce, items for sale, and items you absolutely cannot carry. Make or look for deep-pocketed 3* Legendary body armor pieces that have different % reductions. This is how you carry around more than your stash box can hold.
My personal favorite combo is Batteries Included and -20% ammo weight, so I can easily carry around 50+ fusion cores on the first rank of the perk card.
The most useful might be Bear Arms and -20% weapon weight, making my heavy weapons weigh about 2-3lbs each. I’ll just remain a walking arsenal indefinitely to avoid them switching back to like 20lbs in my stash.
@@Joeljaboy I'm guilty of carrying around 60+ weapons on my main. He hasn't been able to fast travel for 6 months because I'm such a hoarder. lol. Fun though. I'm just starting to vendor items I haven't touched in a while and getting used to selling things in order to fund my new interest in Aristocrats weapons and Overeater's armour.
I was thinking about being our teams quartermaster constantly overburdened with gear.
A moment of silence for the bad old days, before the stash limit was increased...
I remember this, playing at release (prob one of the few that enjoyed it, juet had no one to play with)
And damn, it was 800 I think?
Great video. As a brand new player, i learned quiet a bit just about food. I didn't know it went bad, explains where the spoiled stuff is coming from.
This type of instructional video is always welcome, a bastard for newbies that can take a long while to figure out. I didn’t figure it out until level 70 or so. Good work West Tek dude, I am certain a lot people will benefit from this.
Have a good day all and will catch up in the wasteland……
Thanks for the nice comment ❤️
Kinda wish there was a CAMP house display item that lets you toss perk cards onto it that would benefit your camp. Such as ammo crafting, armor crafting weapon crafting etc. so we dont have to keep flip flopping back and forth for crafting.
That's what the perk loadout thing you build in your CAMP is for. Have a crafting/homebase loadout and an adventure/fighting one, maybe. I have 3 loadouts, Crafting, Bloodied (SS armor), PowerArmor Nuke Zone. Only takes a moment to change between them. Just sucks when you teleport to an event and realise you still have your crafting loadout enabled. :)
Ah, wait. This is sarcasm, isn't it? I really need more sleep.
I wish we could apply it to the camp as well.
westy thanks for always making quality content and not filler bullshit for newbies and veterans alike. straight to the point easy to digest and informative. cant stand the idiots who make clickbait titles. keep it up hermano
Thanks for the nice comment buddy :). Really appreciated!
Ive discovered a lot of weight can be removed by drastically reducing the amount of chems and stimpacks i hold onto.
In addition to whatever food i take, along with a few nuka-cherrys cuz damn are they helpful with the perk, i never carry more than 5 stims. Chances are really good you'll find plenty while you're exploring and its a really common reward for quests.
Get them caps instead
Thanks for the great video. I confess i do FO 1st once or twice a year( usually as a B-day present to myself) so i can fill my scrap box and now my ammo stash now that thats a thing which helps a lot , you can still pull from it after you lose FO 1st you just cant store it anymore ( pretty sure you can't store it ).
U cant store it... sadly
Now I know not to get it🫤
@@aaftiyoDkcdicurakDude you’re just cheap if you won’t pay the 45 cents a day for your enjoyment. It’s a huge progress killer, have fun micro-managing the entire time you play😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Just started playing 3 days ago and made it to level 46 using tips and tricks i learnt off your videos
Thank you 👍
Awesome! Very glad to help
I would usually store junk which is hard to get. The rest which is easy to get, I would just go farm them when I need them. The bulking thing was new for me. I did not know that it did not make any difference and I was wasting my precious molded plastics. Thanks for the tip.
I thought the same. Thanks for commenting!
I don't store ANY weapons (except grenades/mines I find, so I can sell them once the vendors caps restock)
I don't store ANY armor (except the one power armor frame)
I don't store ANY apparel (except a Hazmat Suit)
I have a handful of foods (and my extra Purified Waters)
I have barely any "aid" (never use any except RadX, RadAway and Stimpacks)
I don't store any Misc (because most of 'em can't be stored to begin with)
I toss in any HoloTapes I can
I toss in most Notes I can (but I sell any plans/recipes I already know)
I never keep any Mods, because they're for things I don't have/use (so far)
I have a fair amount of ammo, but I try not to have too many (especially things like the missiles)
Junk is the bane of my existence. I barely have more than 100-200 of everything (with a few being in the 10's, and a handful being nonexistent) and yet I'm always stuck around 1100/1200
Funny thing regarding canned dog food, during the beta and after launch I took the triple benefit from dog food perk, friends laughed and joked, but I wasn't the one that was always hungry
My character lives off of canned dog food and achohol, and has for many years.
It'll keep you going and then some lol
Can do perk my beloved
I always have that Good Doggy perk equipped! 😂
I’d settle for stash size doubling or tripling or make it so you can reduce weight of certain items in stash like you can in your inventory.
"Make it to it's final form" when talking about junk made me laugh so hard that was funny & great tips brotha
One thing I will say about ammo is to invest in an ammo converter don't just drop it.... if you put all the low selling and unusable ammo in there gain points over time and get the ammo you use.... save you a little bit on crafting ammo materials... and you can replace your high sellers in the vendor with that if you choose also
This.
Plastic is useful for shotgun shell ammo. I use armor perks and spent quite a bit rolling a few but you can get 20% reduction on ammo or weapons or the best one I like is food, drink AND chems. Power armor also can get these legendary perks. Plus if you are real lucky you can get plus 1 strength on them. Weapons and armor if you happen to get the 90% weight perk more with heavier guns those work so nice. Last but not least it may take a while but getting the scout large backpack and then the mod for the expanded that’s an extra 120 carry weight. There are other mods but a universal one works for me.
"This character's a herbivore" lol. Thats some serious roleplay.
Most peoples builds are herbivore or carnivore in this game.
It is a type of buff known as a mutation and there are 2 options herbivore or carnivore, they increase the benefits of meat or plants
great video...i'm a dummy, didn't realize until watching this that weight was eating up my stash space. i have a bunch of power armor i don't use that i see is eating up a ton of space
Thanks for this video. I hit the 1200 lbs from hoarding and forgetting about the items. This video helped me knock it down to 650 lol. Had 200 lbs of legendary stuff collected and forgotten about
Oh awesome! Hey, we all forget even at my level. Thanks for commenting!
I have nothing in my stash besides junk, and its maxed out at 1200. How the hell am i supposed to stash anything else?
is steel 500 of it?
Hi, for our new friends who'd like to manage their stims and rads alternatively to stashing.
Equip luck stim/rad find perk when needed. (Rinse and repeat perks when appropriate)
I generally have thru hiker and traveling pharmacy equipped so I keep almost all food and chems on my character to save room in the stash box.
If you get the grocery mod on you back pack I feel it works better then thru hiker
@@TheHellsAngel666 I use the high capacity backpack for the extra 60lbs carry weight so thru hiker is a must for me.
Bit of a food build perk tbh
Lol bro when I take my bag off I got from 430 weight to 1300 I love my backpack
@@TheHellsAngel666 thru hiker has the same 90% less food weight so I essentially use three star perk to get 60 more carry weight. In the end they achieve the same goal.
Thanks for the video. I've been hoarding cloths like nurse uniforms and those darn hats. I know maps aren't much but I have way too many and I only went farming maps one time. I try to keep at least 1 of each plan so when I start a new character, I can move everything over and learn them right off the bat then store them again. But yeah it's past time for spring cleaning.
One of my characters has 16 power armor frames all full of PA pieces of script. Also useful to carry an empty frame out on your adventures in case you get some PA drops.
60+ lbs on a 10lb chassis should be an obvious answer but I’m amazed at the number of high lvl players that still don’t comprehend this.
@@CryHarder666 you can also use that one perk card, I forgot what it’s called but it can lower the chassis down to 2.5 pounds when the card is maxed
@@Anonymous-hf1xrthat's what I useb
Oh my god why did i forget this i literally have so much junk pa i cant sell for scrip bc the cap daily
Thru hiker and travelling pharmacy are really good perks. I wouldn’t bother putting food in my stash box. Especially nuka cola. Since they weigh like 1.
Great point :)
Another good tip for inventory management is the ammo converter. You can essentially bank a fraction of the ammo you have by converting it all into points then just withdrawing ammo when you need it. Especially heavy stuff like missiles. The return rate isnt the greatest but ammo is common enough that you dont have to worry about it too much
I’ve been grinding the treasure hunters… so this will defiantly help me as I will be MASSIVELY hoarding :)
Thanks for watching!
Guys get yourself a weapon weight reduction perk on pa or armor !!! Grenades and weapons / meeles are almost weightless 😁😇
I thought it doesn't affect grenades?
I've heard with that you need it on at least 3 pieces for it to be effective
Awesome video! Something I noticed you don't really touch on is the use of mules. If you have a friend, then its not hard to swap items between characters. I have an account literally just called mule, who's stash and inventory has hit max. Which is just all the stuff I never want to get rid of or scrap. I think you can have 1200 space in your stash and then 1650 pounds for your maximum inventory space.
About 1850 my character topped out at.
Another very useful video. Good job! I just cleared out all my crap. Saved myself like 200lb
Junk right? It's a common mistake we all make! Thanks for watching!!
@@MrWestTek yeh junk lol. I had a ridiculous amount of Power Armour Chassis too.
i found the cause of my weight problems on my character it was cannonballs i had 180 of them used up 100 lbs without knowing it lol
Im level 120, have fallout 1st with all my junk and ammo stored for free, and use the aid carry weight perks so I don't store any meds in stash and 1200 lbs is still not enough storage if you want to be able to keep more than one set of gear and still have a vendor. An increase to 1500 would be extremely appreciated but id prefer 2000.
Great motto.... if you dont use it, sell it or drop it. Good video. Covered it well. I just got FO76 First and it cured my inventory problem. Plus it has encouraged me to keep a tighter reign on things. I am a Fallout explorer and hoarder from Fallout 3 onward. Just the piece of mind First gives me is immeasurable.
As a newer player I run out of these....lvl 55 I need to farm or buy:
Aluminum
Springs (clipboards and lighters - head to Sugar Grove to get like 30 springs each time)
Lead (make sure to pick up those pencils everywhere you find them)
Ballistic Fiber (I tend to buy these from vendors)
Adhesive (I pick up any and all duct tape I can find)
In ESO you can pay in game currency to upgrade your bag and your bank, plus stuff on sale doesnt take up spqce, dont see why its significantly more annoying here when the whole point of the game was having people be the traders.
Thanks for the help, my stash was suffering. Very helpful vid! Also I can't help but notice what sounds like a remix of Theater from Jak X music in the background, nice. 😄
Tip today i found out during events if you use a cannon with explosive shots youll get a ridiculous amount of cannon balls back. Youll then take these and exchange them on the ammo converter. It gives 2000 points per 200 rounds which is 1-2 events depending on the enemy. You wont have ammo taking up space if its points.
I had no idea. I've been trying to figure out how to manage my power armor. I had moved every thing to an alt but that's such a hassle. This is great. Soon as I get home I'm doing this. Thank you for the tip
Stable flux weights an awful lot... plus with some of the challenges that come up you'll want to keep several of each of the alcohol types
I picked up 76 three weeks ago, your informative videos are a huge help thanks brotha. 🔥I challenge you to put together an updated build video, maybe some combos of PA and non-PA. TIA
Thanks for watching and leaving a nice comment :)
Some tips from a Level 200-ish player. This is how I keep my stash box clean and have around 100 pounds of breathing room for emergency situations WITHOUT Fallout 1st:
1. Like MrWestTek says in the video, if you aren't using it, get rid of it. Sell it or drop it
2. There's 5 major things that will put alot of weight in your stash box: Weapons, Armor, Medicine, Junk, and ammo
3. Only keep up to 5 of each type of medicine that isn't stimpaks. As for stimpaks, keep as little of them as your build will allow. Stimpaks especially will weigh you down FAST
4. Only keep up to 200 or less of each type of junk no matter what it is. At least this is what I find alot of success with as a melee build user. Other builds might need more junk. Essentially, try to keep as little junk as possible. It will help keep your weight under control
The first 10mm that I got from the woman outside Vault 76.. I renamed it "My First Gun" and keep it around in my stash :D
After a week of playing, you don't really need to stash any food, there are more than enough places that you can fast travel and kill some Brahmins, the NPCs will not attack you. With the extra meat from animals you can get from SPECIAL cards, it really shouldn't be a biggie. Except if you wanna use get the buff stats. But if I'm not mistaken, both Radstag and Brahmin (when cooked) will net you +20 carry weight for like 30min or something.
This'll be super useful, thanks for making this video! I think of things I'm likely to hoard, it'll be important materials (Once I figure out what I need) and Apparel, because I want to look stylish when wandering the wasteland!
You're so welcome!
If you’ve got items in the vendor that don’t get sold, usually power armor or weapons with no legendaries, then it’s best to scrap them or sell them at an npc vendor. I had 2 power armor sets that took up around 200 lbs of space in my vendor that never got sold, plus it opened the doors for more caps to be made with additional vendor slots.
What items should I spam craft with the junk I have? Since I don't want to buy fallout 1st or drop all the excess junk I have.
I've been playing for about a month now, and after a couple weeks decided, I'm going to be using rifles, while keeping 1 good melee in my personal inventory with 1 pistol and 1 shotgun as a backup, and made a choice keep a couple heavies in my inventory just incase. So no energy weapons. So getting rid of all of my energy weapons, and fuel cells, lightened up my stash by almost 300. So I think the biggest thing, is to decide what you want your armor type and weapon type to be and theb scrap all the rest or just leave it and don't pick it up, and it has made me be able to manage my inventory and stash without Fall1st. it's for sure manageable.
So when you say "get rid" do u mean sell, scrap or just donate?
This is very good thank you Mr WestTek. Much appreciated.
No problem buddy. I'm sure this video will help a lot of people :)
I lover your vodeos
Well thanks so much
I lover them more! 😂
Nyke is in a tough predicament here. He can either fix his grammar mistake & lose mrwesttek’s like on his comment or continue to get bad spelling comments under his original comment 😂😂😂
thanks for the vid even with Fallout 1st I'm a hoarder. As far as I've seen bulking only saves weight on a couple of the scrap types and also then wastes the plastic (so I would give that a miss unless its steel or lead I think)
At around 20 mins in your video, when discussing Junk, I expected you to bring up making scrapped junk bulk, a la bulk lead, bulk steel, via the Tinker’s Workbench.
As a non FO1st player, that saves even more weight in your stash, and you can sell bulk to vendors. I find after you are done with your camp, you really don’t need concrete, and repair kits take care of actually repairing things at workbenches.
Thx for this video ❤ sending it to all my buddies
Do I have to take the scrap put pf the box and into myself to be able to build or I can build and everything in the scrapbox will be available?
I wish they would give us like a wardrobe where we could keep all apparel seperate.
Charisma 1, no hard bargin perk card, sell to merchants, same outcome more space.
what this video taught me is that my stash box isnt that bad right now, ill be back later.
Thank you @MrWestTek I stumbled across your RUclips channel/videos recently, and I really appreciate your content Sir, and you have been a BIG help to me and my Fallout 76 level 58 power armor build character. I'm kinda stuck at the moment, I have 4 unused perks from leveling up that I don't know how to get used for perks and what not atm. Thanks again for your help Sir
Thanks for the nice comment :). Just save up those points, you can only have 50 perk points as active perks so you will start to get extras.
@@MrWestTek you're welcome, and one more question for you, what's the next level that I can invest any perk points?
@@The_Lone_Wolfi believe its every 50 levels
I'm kinda confused how the stash weight is shown....for instance, it shows my current stash weight (inventory) is 1157/1200, yet when i took the time to add every item in my stash i get 812. I even added all of the
You know its a garbage system when someone needs to make a 30 minute video on organizing an inventory screen. I wont be trying this dumpster fire again lol. Absolutely regret preordering it
You play the isle bro? Is their a game that's more garbage then that ?
Just buy fallout 1st it’s only around 45 cents a day. He made a video to help people who need help, it’s not an issue for most who understand the game. Either pay the 45 cents a day for your enjoyment or have fun micromanaging your entire play through.
This is super helpful, thank you! Looking forward to more!
Thanks for your help. I’ve been struggling for so long.I’m so much better with you help 👍🏼
You are so welcome!
Tip: Have 2+ characters made. Have a friend stay on a world while you use a box somewhere in the world to stash stuff you dont need in your box, remember that location and then switch to your second made character, then have them pick it all up. Ininfite stash capacity
Man I just ran into this problem yesterday trying to get a high capacity backpack
My stash has been full since I started playing. Today I decided to create a second account on my ps4 and just pick everything up, tired of hoarding legacies.
Was the limit always 1200? Then all theyve added since launch and they never accounted for the weight of these items
It's probably a good idea if you're keeping weapons in the stash box and not using them to take off the extra mods and break them down to the simplest form.
Not a bad idea.
76 could’ve used a jury rigging perk. Especially for the early game
What would you recommend with scrap. I still miss a lot of things but im sure i have a bunch of useless scrap and it usually takes up 5-700lb should i just drop some?
Why do i feel like he made this video sound way more simple than the reality lol. Especially trying to keep a nicely stocked shop the space is just a non stop struggle
Why is the scrap stash box locked behind a payed subscription?
Also how do i get the ammo converter?
That's cool. But I do have a question? Is there a camp acid machine ( source) that I could use at my camp?
These be the most helpful videos ngl
Very glad to help :). And thanks for watching!
i use a dash, but i also sort them through acronym, like -melee- or -10mm- or -LA- (for left arm), been doing that since aol in the late 90s lol windows has a sorting/indexing issue where you also have to use triple digits for accurate file keeping, for example 001-999 will keep them in order as the 0s creates a micromanagement system within the title/name. this is also very usefull for youtube playlists yall, like for realz use the 000 system if you have paylists on here haha
You guy probably already know but another way to clear stash space is to equip your PA pieces to chasis and store the whole unit in there instead of the game registering the weight of individual parts it will only register the weight of the chasis. As a PA merchant this is a must do.
Very good information, thanks for the comment!!
Yes dude! Nice advice. Didnt know hardly any of this last year when i started.
YES- it is load bearing… CLAIM TOKENS!!!!
You can trade them in outside the entrance of the mine.. they give you junk and random ammo I believe. THEY WEIGH SO DAMN MUCH. So yeah, there are better ways to get scrap and ammo without holding 5k lbs of tokens!
Ive never cashed in on the 100 token tier (top tier), but all the other tiers give you similar stuff that mole miner pales
I hate load barring lol....
Put weapons you want to keep on a display In your base, and instead of keeping disease, an antibiotics I just use the symptomatic at my base?
I'm new and don't have a symptomatic but weapon displays are a brilliant idea!
@@whiteknight3929if you have a friend that has the symptomatic machine they can build it in your base for you
I have Fallout 1st, Level 590, over 2k hours in the game, and my stash box rarely exceeds 800 lbs, yet I watched this entire video like a Day 1 n00b.
And thank you, I hope you have a fantastic day also. ❤😊
I appreciate you watching! And yes, this video is more for newer players.
I have a problem to where I like to sell stuff in my shop but it takes up so much room in my stash box room
I WAS SO CONFUSED WHY MY STASH WAS SO WEIGHED DOWN UNTIL I REALISED I HAD ALMOST 150 INERT FLUX THAT I DIDNT EVEN KNOW YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DRINK
Do you learn mods by scrapping them. I have a bunch I may never use in stash box. Unsure what to do w them.