Eris Dialogue For Getting Too Far Early | Hades 2

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  • @jaredrich3012
    @jaredrich3012 2 месяца назад +1269

    To quote Inscryption:
    “Too fast. Too soon.”

    • @waitingfortheequinnox
      @waitingfortheequinnox Месяц назад +51

      Eight Fucking Bears = “Blessing” of Strife

    • @expepem189xl3
      @expepem189xl3 Месяц назад +8

      @@waitingfortheequinnox Eight F*** bears: Funny, actually beatable, cool, BEAR.
      "Blessing": NOOO DONT PLAY OUR GAME SO FAST, NO REFUND, GO GRIND RESOURSES ONE AT A TIME, JUST TO HAVE A CHANCE TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY AGAINST BOSS. PLS DONT REFUND.(crashes and deletes your save)

    • @michasokoowski6651
      @michasokoowski6651 Месяц назад +2

      @@waitingfortheequinnox What does this blessing do?

    • @moom81
      @moom81 Месяц назад

      @@expepem189xl3 game is not that hard my dude

    • @Charronia
      @Charronia Месяц назад +10

      @@michasokoowski6651 Enemies get a damage buff that increases for every encounter, which means that sooner or later you'll have to play hitless or have your HP deleted.

  • @britishninja
    @britishninja 2 месяца назад +905

    8 GRIZZLY BEARS

    • @raidenjanes2304
      @raidenjanes2304 Месяц назад +53

      TOO FAST. TOO SOON.

    • @cmd1095
      @cmd1095 Месяц назад +13

      I love how we're all just collectively traumatized by that single moment lol

    • @nolanstrife7350
      @nolanstrife7350 Месяц назад

      Eight Fucking Bears
      Creature - bear 8/8
      "holy shit"
      -Jolrael, empress of beasts

    • @theblaze5530
      @theblaze5530 Месяц назад

      TOO FAST TOO SOON

    • @Mugsi
      @Mugsi 25 дней назад

      Total misplay.

  • @sekira4516
    @sekira4516 2 месяца назад +987

    I will admit, it's quite funny that there's an actual punishment for the speedrunners going too fast.

    • @phantasosxgames8488
      @phantasosxgames8488 2 месяца назад +140

      true , but I think that only holds because it's early access.

    • @ellagage1256
      @ellagage1256 2 месяца назад +57

      ​@@phantasosxgames8488Would be kind of cool if in the final game her "boon" works like her Keepsake

    • @wayfareangel
      @wayfareangel 2 месяца назад +85

      Don't worry, the speedrunners will either find a way to route around it, or make it work for them.

    • @josh___something
      @josh___something 2 месяца назад +42

      Borrowing a bit from inscryption with the, "TOO FAST, TOO SOON"
      Just violently taking the wind out of people's sails if they're a bit too good at going through the videogame and missing story XD.

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 2 месяца назад +23

      Yeah, but any serious speed runners will take this as the challenge it so obviously is. They live for this!😂

  • @Mt2Shox
    @Mt2Shox 2 месяца назад +437

    Eris also known as the reason behind Chronos slapping me for 76 health with a single attack

    • @l.n.3372
      @l.n.3372 Месяц назад +5

      That's nothing. The damage multiplier can also apply to his one hit KO attack too. I've seen it get as high as 1500 damage.

    • @medicgaming1200
      @medicgaming1200 Месяц назад

      ​@@l.n.3372 jeepers! Thanks Eris :D

  • @visionofsolace8961
    @visionofsolace8961 2 месяца назад +717

    Eris is the absolute worse "friend" you could possibly have.

    • @Saucisse_Praxis
      @Saucisse_Praxis Месяц назад +12

      No, that's just normal Chronos damage in phase 2

    • @MoonyMoonzzi
      @MoonyMoonzzi Месяц назад

      Nah. She just has a crush and the worst possible coping mechanism for it

    • @visionofsolace8961
      @visionofsolace8961 Месяц назад +2

      @@MoonyMoonzzi Crush? Nah, she is the bratty little sister no one paid much mind, so she keeps screwing with other gods' days.

    • @MoonyMoonzzi
      @MoonyMoonzzi Месяц назад +5

      @@visionofsolace8961 she calls Melinoe babe. She gets upset that Melinoe isn’t getting their “thing” after you give enough nectar. She is going to Tessaly to fight only when Melinoe is there and says she wants to make her let loose. It IS a crush. It’s a narrative archetype of the bratty rival that bullies in an attempt of flirting. It’s not an unusual trope in the slightest.

    • @visionofsolace8961
      @visionofsolace8961 Месяц назад +1

      @@MoonyMoonzzi It's not like Melinoe is actively going to pursue her back, she doesn't like her that way.

  • @coltonmason4623
    @coltonmason4623 2 месяца назад +215

    I love that I was so bad at the game I have never seen this LOL

    • @Lucario7280
      @Lucario7280 Месяц назад +12

      Wouldn't say that you're bad, just that this guy is a lil too good

  • @pedroscoponi4905
    @pedroscoponi4905 Месяц назад +86

    Might be my favorite representation of Eris to date. Just running around causing problems big and small for absolutely no reason.

    • @HeraldOfOpera
      @HeraldOfOpera Месяц назад +2

      I mean, is mythological accuracy really that rare? Because this is literally just mythological accuracy.

    • @jimblesnontroninbo6690
      @jimblesnontroninbo6690 Месяц назад

      ​@@HeraldOfOperaI mean it's interesting later on when we see her inner conflict, that she doesn't like being the way she is and kind of resents Nyx for making her strife, it's supergiants nice mix of mythological accuracy with some additional depth that wasn't there originally but you can fully understand where they got the idea behind it from

  • @bestaround3323
    @bestaround3323 Месяц назад +62

    "I don't appreciate this Eris"
    That just about sums up her character

  • @FrozenRain7
    @FrozenRain7 2 месяца назад +536

    Wait
    I thought she just showed up the first time you reached a new zone…
    You mean I’ve just been doing too well???

    • @ToppSpeed88
      @ToppSpeed88 2 месяца назад +140

      Yep, if you lose too many times before reaching a new zone she won't impede your progress

    • @crimsonartist5190
      @crimsonartist5190 2 месяца назад +65

      ​@@ToppSpeed88 damn, so me getting sirens on run 1 and cerb on 6 wasn't a good thing?

    • @ToppSpeed88
      @ToppSpeed88 2 месяца назад +110

      @@crimsonartist5190 According to the game no, but that's quite the testament to to your skill

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 2 месяца назад +38

      I think she was implemented specifically for the speed runners. This is obviously the type of challenge that they live for.

    • @georgetornea8045
      @georgetornea8045 2 месяца назад +40

      @@coltonwilliams4153 then this is poorly implemented. It should be based on the number of time you take on the run instead of the number of runs you have done. I stop for every dialogue, resource and interaction I can find, but I still got "blessed" by her 6 times. So I am not a speedrunner by any means, I was just trying to get as far as possible every run.

  • @paulb.437
    @paulb.437 2 месяца назад +112

    This "friend" is the only reason I didn't beat the game on run 3...

  • @DillonMeyer
    @DillonMeyer 2 месяца назад +133

    *Light Spoiler*
    Just wait until she "impedes" your progress in a different place.

    • @shadowstrike07
      @shadowstrike07 2 месяца назад +8

      :)

    • @raviolibirb8009
      @raviolibirb8009 Месяц назад +7

      It was surprisingly quite easy... and quite annoying as well

    • @Brass319
      @Brass319 Месяц назад +3

      actually caused no issue to me the first time but now I can't seem to even get close for the life of me. Certainly doesn't help that I've switched over to using the torches and she absolutely hard counters those to an absurd degree

    • @Xinxax
      @Xinxax Месяц назад

      Figuring out what attacks she use is key to beating her there, but I got my damn ass whooped by her twice before I just said "screw it" and went apollo boon with psychic whirlwind moon axe + time slow hex

    • @Brass319
      @Brass319 Месяц назад

      @@Xinxax Even if you know what attacks she uses and when, you still need to play around them, which is far easier said than done. Not to mention you have to somehow find a way to keep dealing damage to her. Best way I've found is solar flare spam w/ glowing coal my beloved, especially glorious disaster if you can get it. Other effects that improve your cast help too. Aspect of Charon is probably too slow, tho.

  • @harryfalalov9419
    @harryfalalov9419 2 месяца назад +62

    Wait, so all these times, when i entered new locations, second, third and fourth... All these blessings, that ruined my attepts was just to make me lose?
    Predictable, but i thought that it was part of a story

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 2 месяца назад +35

      I think it’s more a mechanic to challenge the speed runners, but it is lore accurate as far as Eris’ personality is concerned. Remember, this is the goddess that started the beauty contest that eventually snowballed into the Trojan War.

    • @georgetornea8045
      @georgetornea8045 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes, I had many runs ruined because of her. I had good chances in fighting the final boss a few times. In all runs besides one that I got to the final boss, I died with him having less than 15% hp left. I don't know if I would have killed him without her intervention, but at the very least I would have gotten to see how his final phase looked like so I knew what to expect when I actually kill him. Surprisingly the first time she stopped appearing I won against him even without knowing about his second form beforehand.

  • @Hermi0Taurus
    @Hermi0Taurus 2 месяца назад +32

    I will 100% support them if, assuming Pact of Punishment or some variation of it enters the game, they straight up have a Pact that, at the start of the run, Eris *immediately* gives you one of her "curses" or whatever it's called in the game. Or even Hell Mode.

    • @16N92
      @16N92 Месяц назад

      God please no Pact of Punishement variation in this game. It was horrible game mechanic in Hades I and I don't want them repeat even more mistakes in sequel

    • @amiablereaper
      @amiablereaper Месяц назад +10

      ​@@16N92oh yeah there is one
      It's how you get upgrades for your Aspects
      Fortunately bosses drop their signature materials every time now so you aren't limited in how many you can collect without resorting to the Pact

    • @Hermi0Taurus
      @Hermi0Taurus Месяц назад

      @@16N92 I think all their games have a variation of this mechanic in general, but the one thing I did agree was that was semi-required for progression/rewards. Reading the other reply, it's at least not required this go around.
      I don't blame you for that though. It can be very punishing in Hades 1.

    • @Crowbar
      @Crowbar Месяц назад +3

      @@16N92 pact of punishment was one of the best things about hades 1

    • @16N92
      @16N92 Месяц назад

      @@Crowbar Short answer - no
      Long asnwer: Pact of Punishment is very cheap and fake way supergiant made their game "difficult". Increase HP of enemies, increase their damage, increase damage of traps, make enemies ignore up to two instances of damage, make game reduce choice of your boons essentially blocking any coherent choice making, make it take away one boon, make everything much more expensive, put sadistic timer on levels, take away your invisibility frames, nullify your mirror upgrades. Only interesting setting is extreme measures but even it after couple of runs will be something you get used to. And you have to complete runs with it on heat+1 with every weapon to get resources (which are completely different problem of game), over and over god damn again and more heat it you set, more unfun it becomes because you start to notice how blatanly boring way they did all these difficulty tweaks. Considering the game becomes festival of rng at higher heat, sometimes it becomes restart simulator to get perfect starter

  • @beets_and_rice
    @beets_and_rice 2 месяца назад +68

    eris my beloved (she’s giving jinx vibes)

    • @scottallen2966
      @scottallen2966 2 месяца назад +5

      Kind of matches her aspect effect in the first game

  • @agenttennessee
    @agenttennessee 2 месяца назад +21

    I figured she shows up the further you get or when the game wants you to go back in order to trigger whatever story flag or dialogue just to keep things smooth between runs. Still a pain when she drops in right at Tartarus.

  • @Crankulite
    @Crankulite Месяц назад +13

    I had this happen to me because I killed Hectate on my first try, she meets you at the first gate in Oceanus aswell

    • @RoyaltyFreeName
      @RoyaltyFreeName  Месяц назад +7

      she appears in the second floor first 3-4 runs, then the same in third and fourth floor after those first runs, if you keep getting that far.

    • @Crankulite
      @Crankulite Месяц назад +1

      @@RoyaltyFreeName good to know

  • @Icewall956
    @Icewall956 Месяц назад +14

    WAIT, THAT’S WHAT SHE’S THERE FOR??? They punish you for beating bosses on your second attempt? That’s hilarious.

    • @lukes.3679
      @lukes.3679 Месяц назад +9

      First attempt too. And third. It seems to be in place to make the story advance more smoothly, which only happens at the hub. They want to encourage players to see more dialogue without outright baring progress.

  • @prometheus-ii7030
    @prometheus-ii7030 Месяц назад +6

    Yeahhhhh, I got something like that too. When I beat Sirens, I also beat Cerberus, so Eris fucked me up for Tartarus. Still made it all the way to the big man, but then he was dealing 40-ish damage to me per hit.

    • @RoyaltyFreeName
      @RoyaltyFreeName  Месяц назад +3

      she appears in the second floor first 3-4 runs, then the same in third and fourth floor after those first runs, if you keep getting that far.

  • @littledark6498
    @littledark6498 2 месяца назад +98

    ERIS!!!!!! What a GORGEOUS design 😍😍😍♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ but her "blessings" are annoying

    • @icetweiz
      @icetweiz 2 месяца назад +13

      It's on purpose. She's like the female version of Loki

    • @parasitone0814
      @parasitone0814 2 месяца назад +5

      YESSSSSS I'M GLAD I WASNT THE ONLY ONE I LOVE HER DESIGN SO MUUUUUCH!!

    • @olchum7605
      @olchum7605 2 месяца назад +5

      Kinda don't like it. Looks very 'Twitter artist'

    • @lightofthelives
      @lightofthelives 2 месяца назад +1

      @olchum you're a loser

    • @user-ik9ns3gj2b
      @user-ik9ns3gj2b 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@olchum7605 Absolutely. I suppose the author of the original comment is a Twitter person themselves.

  • @arcanegamer2723
    @arcanegamer2723 Месяц назад +3

    someone tell them that good old king time the 2nd will probably eat them aswell when all is said and done

  • @empressmoni5381
    @empressmoni5381 Месяц назад

    this happened to me the first time i got to oceanus and thought that this was going to be a thing each time u hit a new area for the first time

  • @trevhart2124
    @trevhart2124 Месяц назад +2

    I do find it funny how she really is there just to make sure you done's beat the game on your 1st try

  • @Boonesman
    @Boonesman Месяц назад +1

    Damn, I didn't realize that's what that was for lmao, I just thought I got unlucky when I beat the first boss on my first run and she slapped me with a debuff immediately afterwards.

  • @AtticusKarpenter
    @AtticusKarpenter 2 месяца назад +6

    She got a gun

    • @somedude4087
      @somedude4087 2 месяца назад +8

      not just a gun
      she's got THE gun
      adamant rail, aspect of Eris
      her aspect
      hence the mechanic you can see with her...

  • @anxiousrobot82
    @anxiousrobot82 Месяц назад

    I’ve only seen her once in 40~ runs, I never knew she could show up MULTIPLE times

  • @Azuniite
    @Azuniite Месяц назад

    I've been meeting her in the fields almost every single time, didn't know it meant something xxx

  • @jedimasterpickle3
    @jedimasterpickle3 Месяц назад +1

    Oh didn't know she could show up in the Field of Mourning. I first met her in Tartarus after an absolutely fucking cracked run that barely had any right making it past Scylla, let alone Cerberus. Key was the invincibility hex, and Hephaestos's damage reduction + magic regen on hit. It should be mentioned that this was also the first time I cleared Oceanus. And I barely squeaked by in the Fields of Mourning, beat Cerberus....and this bitch just gave me a "You take +20% damage" debuff and I immediately ate shit and died in the first room of Tartarus. I think this was before I had any Death Defiance too.

  • @Faelivrin12
    @Faelivrin12 Месяц назад

    I got this twice, the first time when I finally got to Tartarus and the second somewhere in the mourning fields. I got decimated both times soon after 😂

  • @glazedsteel6321
    @glazedsteel6321 Месяц назад

    ah this happened to me on my second run but never after that

  • @maximum-oversaiyan
    @maximum-oversaiyan Месяц назад

    i met her in oceanus then never again.
    those sirens were murdering me for a solid minute lmfao

  • @CY3ER
    @CY3ER Месяц назад

    I already know mad lad is going to do a first run clear at some point, if it hasn't already been done.

  • @fatalfury28
    @fatalfury28 Месяц назад +1

    Mel: GIMME MAH BROTHERS GUN BACK YOU B-

  • @sakuyaizayoi1945
    @sakuyaizayoi1945 Месяц назад +1

    I met her twice in every new zone, I though it was scripted like that.
    Twice on Oceanus, Twice on Fields and Twice on House of Hades
    I was sure this was just a forced roadblock to prevent me from finishing the game in 3 runs, as I did with Hades 1

    • @jatinmarcob2128
      @jatinmarcob2128 Месяц назад

      I saw her 4 times in the second area after Hecate. I wonder if it tracks story progression.

  • @the3dcapybara
    @the3dcapybara Месяц назад

    For 30 hours playing never met her, beside runs at olymp

  • @nuno1327
    @nuno1327 Месяц назад +1

    To be honest i don't mind its an extra difficulty spike if your too good at the game it helps beter the experience for those who think its to ez and by doing soo also slows u down giving u more time to get stronger and unlock everything before u finish the game, the only bad part is Chronos now slaps me for 76 health with a single attack... so not beating that any time soon.

  • @areszeudion5153
    @areszeudion5153 15 дней назад

    Question, no dialogue from when boss kills Melinoe or gods teaching her about why they should picked them instead the other?

  • @Yavorh55
    @Yavorh55 Месяц назад

    Ooooh the point is to make you fail? I encountered her on the last floor the very first time I got there and I thought it was a game mechanic where she "blesses you" each time you get there lol

  • @larsboom311
    @larsboom311 Месяц назад

    Because i played during tbe tecnical test i already had some practise so i got this on every fucking region

  • @mostlyimpulsive3462
    @mostlyimpulsive3462 Месяц назад

    Okay but Melinoë is like, a billion percent Hades' daughter. It's kinda hilarious how much she sounds like him at times! 😂

  • @blackbuffalo62
    @blackbuffalo62 Месяц назад

    Considering everyone is seeing this, they may want to adjust the pace a little bit....

  • @just_a_hampa
    @just_a_hampa Месяц назад

    Babe? BABE?! ARE WE TOGETHER NOW??

  • @Yamanj23
    @Yamanj23 29 дней назад

    I want to beat Chronos night 1 but she keeps appearing either before the sewers or right there.
    I don't like receiving 55% more damage from Infernal Beast (Cerberus) while I do almost nothing.

  • @Ghost_Rafaam
    @Ghost_Rafaam Месяц назад +2

    Hear me out tho... Surely we can fix her by the release of Hades II?

    • @arcanegamer2723
      @arcanegamer2723 Месяц назад +1

      well we're at it someone tell aphrodite that zag is currently frozen in time so to stop messaging him hes not ignoring you and as a goddess of love and war do something more

  • @sebastianzarek7056
    @sebastianzarek7056 Месяц назад

    After first run I instantly said: If I have 350hrs in Hades and lost the first run so quickly, the game might be much harder to win first run than in Hades. Then I saw eris on every next run for like 10 runs and was like: Yeah, so basically the devs want you dead the first 10 or so runs just coz. Fine. (Won a run where eris was in the fields, jokes on you SG games lol)

  • @holyknightamax4833
    @holyknightamax4833 Месяц назад +1

    wait she doesnt spawn in for everyone ?

  • @ST3RLII
    @ST3RLII Месяц назад

    I saw her but thought that was normal, so she only appears when you are too fast or what?

  • @magma55100
    @magma55100 Месяц назад

    I got this dialogue just to never beat Chronos for at least another 10 runs. It went downhill from here for me

  • @arsontheaverage8821
    @arsontheaverage8821 Месяц назад

    I'll get the game when it comes out fully in a year or 2 tbh. Ti'll then i'll gladly keep checking it out when it pops up occasnily due to an update

  • @prisma.
    @prisma. Месяц назад +1

    Ah, so it means i was too good at the game? I thought it was kind of scripted forcing you to lose on the 3rd stage.

  • @CanYouHearTheMusic_
    @CanYouHearTheMusic_ Месяц назад

    So this just happens bc you’re good? I’m flattered and also very annoyed.

  • @shadowldrago
    @shadowldrago Месяц назад

    Annoying as this is, it IS very on brand for Eris.

  • @lukes.3679
    @lukes.3679 Месяц назад

    A lot of the comments here seem to dislike this mechanic, and while I enjoy it, maybe they should add an easier difficulty on release that doesn't have this. The first game had difficulties so there's a precedent for it. This is a great game and I would genuinely hate if people were scared away because it's too challenging. Maybe as an accessibility option? Let me know if you find this too hard.

    • @RoyaltyFreeName
      @RoyaltyFreeName  Месяц назад +2

      easy mode already exists like it did in first game, it's called "godmode" in settings and you get more powerful each death

    • @N0xNecro
      @N0xNecro Месяц назад

      this isn't about being too challening (she literally shows up because the player is ""too good/quick"" at the game), it's about a great game having an incredibly cringe mechanic, literal damage taken % multipliers, that artificially inflate difficulty instead of something that feels like a challenge instead of a punishment.

  • @elio6361
    @elio6361 Месяц назад

    *spoiler*
    I never saw her before fighting her on the surface, was that a bug ? Or was I so good that she didn't have time to appear ?

    • @Brass319
      @Brass319 Месяц назад

      she only appears if you beat a boss shortly after reaching that area for the first time in the first 10 nights, it seems. I only beat hecate on around my fourth run and scylla at around my ninth, so that explains why it never happened to me personally

  • @monkey_soda
    @monkey_soda 2 месяца назад +28

    so annoying being punished and making the run unwinnable just bc you are too good at the game

    • @user-oi8hx7vl6f
      @user-oi8hx7vl6f 2 месяца назад +9

      I mean, I kinda understand that. You can probably skip on dialogue and stuff if you just blitz through the game triggering flags all over the place

    • @monkey_soda
      @monkey_soda 2 месяца назад

      @@user-oi8hx7vl6f yeah coming from a heavier lean on my enjoyment for binding of isaac and randomized runs, i don’t care much for the story, i also think it’s annoying you can’t reset a run, tried giving up a night and replaying and everytime per night its a set designated run with the same boons every time

    • @darthvaderreviews6926
      @darthvaderreviews6926 2 месяца назад +19

      @@monkey_soda If you Give Up, it _should_ be generating a new night with new boons. If you're basing your resets entirely on what first God you get, it might be rigged by your first god encounter (certain Gods are scripted to introduce themselves on later nights as the first Boon, so if it's your first Hephastus for example that might be it), or just the fact that there aren't _that_ many gods and getting the same first Boon twice was a coincidence.
      Though, I don't really have much sympathy for people who reset roguelikes until they get good RNG in the first room, I think it's bad form. Especially in Isaac, where the true depth is in rigging the system and making your own luck out of average runs.
      I also don't think Eris is a problem for game pace. I initially _felt_ that the game felt like it was gating a bit too much power/mechanics behind repeated Nights, until I beat Chronos on my 13th Underworld run. That's about the same amount of runs that it took me to beat Hades in the original game, and Eris herself didn't feel like she was the problem in any of those runs, it was still mostly an issue of learning bosses and getting good builds. There's a lot of balancing kinks to work out in Hades II but Eris' debuff trolling isn't one of them IMO

    • @monkey_soda
      @monkey_soda 2 месяца назад +1

      @@darthvaderreviews6926 i remember i had reset about 3 times and each time the first boon was the same along with both options for the paths i could choose after the first room, and the second room, i think hades 2 is just a very different experience and for someone hoping to rig runs and win based off of synergies and optimal decision making i just feel a bit held back, seems there’s a greater emphasis on the story than there is the moment to moment. i had about 3 runs within my first 10 make it to the final stage but all were unbeatable bc one hit from any enemy had a +50% damage increase from eris

    • @monkey_soda
      @monkey_soda 2 месяца назад +7

      @@darthvaderreviews6926 then again, i also am not a fan of the fact that a portion of my success relies on upgrades and stat points outside of my knowledge of the mechanics and enemy patterns, BUT i do understand its not the games fault i just have different preferences

  • @nettaatzili1936
    @nettaatzili1936 Месяц назад

    Exquisitely annoying.