You know Pez, with that much of theories videos released with that kind of high quality, I find it sometime hard to tie everything together, even if I rewatch your older videos. Would you be inclined to do a sort of wrap up video, at the end of this wonderful therory week, that explains everything in chronological order, like something a little bit more organized, so we can grasp and feel a little better all of the events that happened during FFXV history ? Thank you ! You're doing an amazing kind of job, as always !
I "third" that too :p Nvm, hmmm yeah it'll be cool to be able to replace every event in the order, so we can appreciate the maestria of this fcking well written lore and story. It's more or so easy to understand what's going on if we take things separately, but so hard to bring them all together... I would never be able to do that on my own... My brain would melt... 100% respect to the team behind it, and developpers who took this seriously by leaving us hints, even though they didn't have time develop what was originally going to be a trilogy. Hoping for a full remake of this in like 20 years or so :p
yep, this is needed. too many different theories that are all over the place. you should summarize your best and most proven theories and give a run-down on how it effects the lore of the game before, during, and after the events of Noctis.
Quick note on some of the footage in this video. While half of the reenactment footage was indeed Aztec, the other half was from the movie 'apocalypto' which was predominantly Mayan. But as Mel Gibson admitted to it being dramatized with Aztec influence, plus the fact Mayan and Aztec cultures had almost identical parallels in their beliefs and sun worship. I used some from there. I think it's amazing square have almost made a 'if the aztecs had advanced technology' type backstory and the base of all religion. So much love this aspect of the story! Secretly making the summons (gods) the bad guys cloaked as good and Ardyn (the great fallen angel himself) the fringe hero. Love it! FF, shtting on religion since 1987 :P
Final Fantasy Peasant i tagged you on a post about Ifrit and Ardyn. to me; it would make more sense if Solheim used the "Tower" to sent light to "Goddess" to help her because ifrit trapped her down there. this would be why Ifrit was imprisoned however Ardyn needed his assistance to find her so he could rid body of scourge. shit went south and Ardyn is the one who tore her heart out (in a fit of rage perhaps after being rejected her light-gave into datkness). Ifrit finds out and is devistate but also infected. he kills himself with his love-pyre fire and the plague spreads from Ifrits ashes. as a servant of ifrit; he tasks Ardyn to restore her soul. and then Bahamut gets involved selecting a King and Oracle.
These are some thoughts I've had for a while now.... ever since watching your Pitioss theory video that is. And I believe they add further credibility to a few key points of this video: As far as Eos' power is concerned, and how it seems to encompass all aspects of the world of FF15, I believe Bahamut explicitly states that the full power of the crystal's light exceeds that of the 6. And since (according to the theories) the crystal is Eos' heart or her womb, or generally somehow related to her.... well it becomes pretty apparent that if there is any truth to that, then Eos must indeed play a much more profound role than just being another astral; that's how it seems to me anyway. Also, as far as biblical references are concerned, considering how Ifrit's appearance has been based on the typical depictions of Lucifer, there is something I believe you should know. In greek another name for Lucifer is Eosphoros (!!!!). Eosphoros roughly translates to "bringer of the dawn", but another accurate interpretation would indeed be "carrier of the dawn" (I'm Greek myself, so trust me). As in "the one who carried the dawn out of a massive pit in the ground that served as her prison".
@@gingerell4179 At least you played it yourself hahahah. I didn't own a system that could handle this game at the time, so all I had were pez's playthroughs! An amazing game nonetheless.
I remember learning about the Tower of Babel , how the ancient civilisation tried to challenge the gods by building a tower to the skies but the gods struck it down and the people were split apart , maybe that could also represent the creation of the different kingdoms like Lucis and Accordo etc - FF always ends up getting a lil bit biblical and the destruction of Solheim during the astral war could be a parallel between the two - Could be what Costlemark is a nod to - anyway AMAZING VIDEO I've been a bit iffy with theories at the moment but this video makes some of them seem more solid and legit , especially the creation of the star scourge and how it was spread around the world . Loved it and you've definitely changed my mind about these theories again 👌
You missed a very important fact! that 2000 years ago when Ifrit went down to pitioss for Eos that when they finally climbed out with her and they fused on the top of the rock of ravatough, the seismic waves reached all the way down to hammerhead. This caused a huge atomic explosion as the waves triggered some plutonium along the way causing Ardyn to become evil and then 2000 years later when noct finally gets lured into killing ardyn , Regis turned back time and instead of Noct and the bros, the Easter bunny was born
Joe Stefano omg, i totally missed that. those writers at square enix sure know their Easter mythology. if you look at the group of bushes near the road to hammerhead and squint you can totally make out the Easter Bunny. this is insane, peasants, insane
Sees video in Subscriptions "Oh yeah, Solheim, that other thing that's not in the game and means nothing." Begins watching video "Clocks? Dave's tattoos? Really?" Here's a theory: Umbra was Ardyn all along! We never see the two together and Ardyn's clothes have the same colors as Umbra, and we know it's true because Ignis and Bahamut are secret lovers because Ignis is one of Bahamut's attacks in FFXIII, and all the gods are actually giant sex robot's created by Verstale, which is why Prompto want's to bone Cindy so bad because she's blond like Eos who is actually Celes because FF6 was a huge inspiration for FFXV and Stella was actually Noctis's mother who turned into the Marilith because Stella means star, which is a reference to Star Platinum from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure which is also where Noctis's Ultimate pose comes from, because Kingdom Hearts 3 2018 confirmed!!! Because that all makes about as much sense as this and the last theory you posted. Peasant, I love you man, but come on, someone else made a pretty good theory and now you're just taking whatever they say as gospel to try to prove that FF15 isn't shit like so many people are saying. (Which I agree with, it is not shit.)
Thank you!!!!!! I've been wondering about that for some time, like wtf you doing in there bro. It looks almost like he's in the universe's hookah lounge.
Heim- means home or land. It is a word coming from old norse and in german it means home. Sol- means sun. So solheim can mean the home of the sun. Aztec culture believed that id they did not offer blood by means of human sacrifice, the sun would not rise the next morning. The god of the sun in aztec culture is Huitzilopochtli. I think it makes a food connection with the theory that solheim was after the energy of the sun. I do not know what else can be connected with this, hope this helps a little.
i swear, u make it so much more interesting for this game. The amount of research u do to uncover all the lore and hidden stories that they seemingly put into this game is astounding. So much history from Norse mythology, lore from summons and even job related lore from the red mages.. u really make this game a complete tale. which kinda makes sense why SE is putting so much into, still, developing this game.. they put a lot of time and money into developing this universe and making it soooo immersive. they want to get their moneys worth
Pez. I must apologize for not being to make your streams as of late, man. I miss the lifestream crew and hanging out with you. Thank you for making these videos and content as it has been the closest thing to hanging out with you, because i have been very busy lately.
The disc of Cauthess is a what kind of puzzle? I am a Latinist, currently training to become a Latin teacher, and would like to know exactly where Perona77 is getting their Latin from. Some of their translations seem VERY questionable to me.
Not only their translations, the whole theory is VERY questionable. It's not even a theory anymore, it's getting out of hand, this stuff is totally made up! I mean, they even had the courage to say that the arches have been created by the Titan because he is the...ARCHaean. Dude. But everyone seems to blindly believe anything at this point.
Ya its gone off of the deep end badly. Since FFXV's release I've heard that the game is actually Draco and Maria's Opera from FF VI, that its FFVII in the future, that XV and VII are parallel universes, that there are multiple timelines now, that FFXV is essentially Stephen Kings The Dark Tower series, and now that Ifrit is the hero for rescuing his beloved based on VS artwork and concepts from 6 years ago and then just went to crazy down on Doomtrain from there The only things for certain are that XV is quite good despite realistically should have been terrible, given that other developers botch games with much less internal turmoil. Another certainty is that like the original FF online XIV and the remake 2.0, this game shows just how badly SE mishandles their own projects over the last decade or so. If they could get Nomura as creative director and Tabata as game director and have them focus on ONE thing, they would be able to get back to producing polished top quality games. But their business and design choices are all over the place.
Haha yeah and the more it goes on the more absurd it gets. Let's take the crystal for example. First it was the "heart of Eos" because the Ravatogh has a heart-shaped cavern (which doesn't even resemble a heart, but let's believe it); now it' a uterus or a womb because Noctis enters it. ...What if it is just a crystal given to humans by the gods, as clearly stated in the game? We also know that previous scripts of the game featured at least 4 crystals, so the uterus theory couldn't even apply in the old story! The whole Ravatogh theory itself is based on the wrong translation of "炎の神" (God of Flames, not ''pyreburner"). But hey, why checking the original before making up a theory?
u know whats funny about Ifrits story it feels like someone took Sephiroths and made a Religion from it xd Eos=Jenova Ifrit=Seph all is there the death, the containment... the use of her power, the meteor, he even took her womb/heart = Jenovas head! would be a funny easteregg even if unwanted xd
I love your theories Pez. I don't believe for a second that they're true, or that Square thought even half as deep about things as you think they have, but they are entertaining :) The problem for me in me believing in these theories comes from the fact that their foundation is just a head-canon. A compelling one for sure, but still only a head-canon. I don't doubt that some elements could possibly be true, but it's not enough to convince me that FF15's story is anything more than what we got. What's the phrase? Look hard enough for something and you will find it? Keep on being you Pez. I look forward to the Messenger video!
If Tabata simplified the story, that itself is reason why it wouldn't be true. If that's the case, then the story has been simplified, and all these complex stories have been simplified into what we actually got in the game. Which is nothing close to what's in these theories, ergo, they are no longer true in the FFXV universe if they ever even were.
Dee When those ideas are completely missing from the game and are never hinted at let alone anything more substantial. Yeah it means those ideas didn't make it to the final product. Could they have been potential ideas that never made it, sure it's possible. But it doesn't really matter, it's not in the game now. It's not part of the world, lore, or story.
Solheim definitely. I would kill for a prequel game of sorts for this game where we either explore the history of the Great War of Old, or Ardyn's tale. Unfortunately Square seems more interesting in giving us power ranger suits. :(
There is not unfortunately. I've seen playthroughs. It's basically a children's bedtime story in a sidscrolling beat em up. Interesting, but it doesn't go indepth into anything and it's hard to say whether the end boss was true or just Regis pimping up the story for Noct. That said, I'm less interested in Regis and co than I am in the ancient history of this game. I would like to see the stories from 2000 or so years ago told. I don't much care what Regis and his band did in his time. :(
Just curious if anyone has a theory connecting some of this to the fact that those dungeons are only accessible at night? Perhaps part of the betrayal was that they began to veer away from light and the dawn, opting to work in darkness instead, or demons are only active at night so they had to work in the darkness in order to try their experiments?
I knew there was something about Dave's tattoo! It had a lady on his arm and I wondered if it was a goddess. I am also connecting this to one of my ideas that Dave's mother and aunt were servants of the Gods, like Gentiana
I bet most of these theories are just really good fan fiction because I just can't understand why would the developers make all of this if they don't use it in the actual game. It's pointless.
Jesse ? Because an open world game can't tell a linear story well It's the ultimate paradox of game design better story = less freedom, more freedom = crapy story and finding a balance between the extremes is insanely tricky -_- Versus 13 was a semi linear game similar to Kingdom Hearts and was reworked into a Open world game with 2 major plot overhauls one to remove any connection to 13's God's as Etro was originally the major figure of this world's lore and Then Replacing the Grim Reaper Gods the made to replace Etro with the Astrals and Lucian Kings because They wanted to sell the game in China and no skeletons are allowed in media there basically they cut out huge chunks of story and stitched back together what they could
Further thing to support this theory is the very name Solheim - home of the sun. And with Niflheim being the world you have to pass through to enter Helheim (the underworld) in norse mythology, the name of this new nation is a funny little twist of the name of the old one. Wonder who came up with that name...
I love your theory videos! So well detailed and I hope that SE comes out and confirms these! This would make the game so much better like BloodBorne with its Lore! Making it way more detailed big time! I'd love to find out if all this is true! I can see Ignis trying to teach this stuff to Noct while he's in school and doesn't pay attention! Lol
I don't intend to undermine your fantastic accomplishment but to ask a question that has been bugging me: Was it really meant to be a battle that took hours? I suck at games a lot (and at XV) but I beat it in well under an hour when I went to take it on. With Normal Difficulty. Which is why the videos about beating it in under X hours have been puzzling. Did I glitch it out somehow?
I always felt that the crystal was shaped like a womb on the inside. Did not help that Noct end up getting sucked in there and reborn as the one to end the world or ruin.
Well I'll continue to believe in these even if I'm the odd one out for doing so. The whole theory concept for me started with the Mass Effect Indoctrination Theory and I've never been one to dismiss them especially with the amount of supporting evidence being shown. Keen up the great work Pez & company.
Square 'Thanks for giving us credit for a place we cut out of the game.and didn't think much of it' Heres the Womb and heart，we need to find her Pussy next. It contains the greatest secret of all time！ I am not sure how theres 9 astrals when they stated in the astrals war there.was.only 6. The other 3 wouldve been mentioned somewhere. Its too important to leave out. Pit of Pitoss story about Eos and Ifrit will be the only thing I will believe. The further it gets stretched.the more it doesnt add up. Ardyn was the original King betrayed by Izunia，seeking revenge. Its that simple. No complication needed.
FanJasBoy the Solfiem theory seems 80% legit to me concidering they are a major plot hole, and the dungeon archetecture kinda fills that plot hole. Ardyn and Izunia dont count as astrals because they are only half god or demigod, if you try and say they arnt children of Eos than you cant catch onto a train in ur face.
I like that the story isnt throw in you face and you havent to watch every cutscene to know everthing, you actually have to look at your surroundings and find it yourself
these videos give me life! though unfortunate that we need these to feel the story more instead of just the game my deepest respect goes to all and any researcher out there making these vids and sharing with us!!
I love this theory about the disc being a giant clock or some sort of astronomical instrument, and Etro a slave to Solheim. What do you make of the fact that Somnus's tomb is right next to the Meteor in the game? If the clock was destroyed 2000y ago, how come the founder king of Lucis is entombed in these ruins?
Listening to this made me think of the shapes of Steyliff and Costlemark. You say Steyliff is like a womb, basically being a giant box with an opening in the middle, and it's the place where Solheim attempted to obtain immortality. I was thinking of how Costlemark is long and cylindrical, and ultimately ends in a tip, and its the place where they gathered the energy. Conclusion: If Steyliff is a giant vagina dungeon, then Costlemark is a giant sun penis.
it is mind blowing I read the pitioss theory and from a fandom point it makes perfect fucking sense I even went as far as creating a another part to the theory to why ifrit loathe humans and why bahamut created the ring and Royal arms
This was amazing to watch!! There is a myth that an Aztec emperor had mistaken the Spanish invaders leader as Quetzalcoatl. I'm wondering if this is related to Ifirit and the starscourge? In some myths Quetzalcoatl was seen as light, justice, mercy and wind. What actually happened was the Spanish invaded and disease wiped out the population. Maybe the people of solheim thinking that Ifirit freeing Eos their light and Godess of dawn back to them. But what happened was a backfire for them. Ifirit bringing Eos's body back from Pitioss, burning the body to body and the starscourge that had infected her into the wind and Ifirit's attack on Solheim as punishment for their beliefs. That's just what I started thinking of from watching the video.
You know that sad feeling you get after completing a good game and it feels like the journey is over? Thanks to you I haven't felt that yet. The best part is I did almost no side content and completed only one optional dungeon.
There needs to be a whole video on the whole theme of advance ancient civilizations in the Final Fantasy series. They all virtually have one and each game has to deal with the sins of said ancient civilization whether it’s the main story or a side quest
Oh my dear lord I was so convinced that the Crystal is Eos' heart but now that you say it's her womb it's much more logical! They displayed an artwork of Etro/Eos in versus 13 trailer where there's a hole in her stomach this matches your theory perfectly!
A note to clarify: Babylonian and Akkadian astronomy and religions affected later astronomies and religions which is why a number of allusions to the most ancient religions will seem to be tie ins with more contemporary religions, but it really isn't necessary. It's far more likely that they saved on the legwork and just went to the oldest magicko-religious texts for backstory. Easy peasy.
Hey peasant, I found a weird glitch (most likely) or an easter egg (if you can interpret it), but i think its cool n you should check it out, tell us wut you think of it, plus i don't think anyones caught on to this yet, not that I know of. Ok, so after you beat the titan mission, the aura of the comet disappears right? Well if you go to the lake near Alstor Slough and look at the reflection of the comet through the lake, you'll see that the aura is still there... is that on purpose? or jus a glitch that needs to be patched?
there was a war in type 0 that involved astrals. What if that was the old war. Also I think the story in type 0 is a time loop as well. So when 15 was still part of the nova crystallis, you can see the connections now. Time travel, war, astrals.
There's a difference between feeding people the story and purposefully hide the key points of a story so that only a few players will find it. Ifrit's place in the story just isn't explained when you play the game, and that is a flaw. Ifrit just turns up as the evil guy. Why? No info unless you dig the story out in post-game Pitioss.
Amazing video pez! question: you mentioned that the crystal is the womb of Eos leading to life of the MTs in Niflheim but the crystal was in Insomnia before (Kingsglaive) and there were MTs already. can you expound on this? thanks mate.
Peasant! Take a look at this theory about Anglegard! Angelgard could be a kind of place where Ardyn was sealed for the first time before the astrals started their sleeping period. Today, watching again this place in detail in the video below I can think of that theory to be true: Titan: Maybe the whole island and its special form because of some collision? also the prison section is a big rock Shiva: There is some kind of ice structure sealing the place from the top, with a very similar shape as classic shivas ice diamond attacks Bahamut: The prison is surrounded by his swords maybe, they remind me a lot of the ones he uses in the final chapter fighting Ifrit Leviathan: Its an island, maybe it was surrounded by aggressive currents or due too its eroded form on the sides in some kind of circular pattern , a giant water swirl or whirlwind (My English is not very good, im triying to say a kind of water tornado around) was always around the island Ramuh: Maybe a permanent storm around the island, using the swords of bahamut as conductors to imprison Ardyn in a permanent thunder storm What do you think? Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/-dgnezk1Kio/видео.html
I may be wrong now, but as far as I remember... didn't the other kingdoms have their own cristals and just insomnia was able to keep the last one? how many hearts/wombs/thingies would Eos have had then? Not too convincing, don't you think? I wouldn't fokus only on this couple's theories. Some things they seemingly see in some pictures are doubtable.
Tidus8319 well that was the original story from Versus XIII. There is no mention of other crystals in XV or its overall mythology so it's probably something that was written out during the transition
Chaotic Heretic is it? Hmm never mentioned in the game or any official source material that I'm aware of. Can you provide a source? I'd like to see that
ok, i thought t'was in the kingsglaive intro, but it wasn't. but anyway... i read the article and some interpretation just seems a bit too far fetched... the hierarchy also sounds a bit off.
People keep saying that they don't think SE thought this deeply and had made this much story and history behind what we saw in FFXV, here's what I have to say... If you research about storytelling, or writing a novel, you will find that as the author/creator, you are supposed to know 100 things about the world and tell the reader only 1. It's that ratio. The reader will only come to know 1% of the world that you have created. If we saw less than what they originally wanted to show us, then potentially there IS another 99.5% of history that we didn't get told in the game.
I'll try to keep this brief: I believe the heart of Eos is in fact a womb: 1. It is the source of life which Solheim and later Nilfheim were exploiting. 2. In one of your theory videos you show the statue of Eos with a hole where her womb would be. 3. When Noctis is sleeping in the crystal he is in the foetal position. As far as the biblical influences are concerned these are everywhere, even to the depiction of Ifrit which draws from Rennaisance influences. At the end when Noctis is on the throne his father is standing beside him facing away. This is very similar to the crucifixion when God the Father turned away from his son (My God, my God why have you forsaken me?). In the end it is the father that gives the final blow to Noctis. One could argue that were it not for God and His Holy nature, Jesus would not have had to die, so whilst some argue it was the Jews that killed Jesus, I believe it was in fact God Himself as part of His plan to redeem mankind. I do not believe FF games are anti-religion (with the possible exception of XIII). They draw from many different spiritual aspects. They make us think and challenge our beliefs and I personally believe this is an excellent thing.
FF Peasant, I've been watching your videos for a while. Thanks for putting in the work and delving into all this theory crafting. It's almost near impossible to expect the audience at large to find this type of lore through the story. It makes looking back on the main story, much more interesting. For example, the idea that the crystal is the womb of Eos. It makes sense, since Noctis goes back into the womb and becomes reborn. (A popular motif) Consider the fact that Noctis enters the fetal position, confronting the fact that he's going to die. (The fear/sadness on his face surprisingly brought more emotion back into me, when I first saw it.) So, I think it's really safe to confirm that it's likely him being in the "Womb of Eos" This game relies heavily on imagery, so Noctis doing that must have a deeper meaning, right?
ok seriously, FFXV is propably the only game that has more fun theories AFTER ITS RELEASE rather that before!!!
holy Eos!!!
Great job Pez!!!
You know Pez, with that much of theories videos released with that kind of high quality, I find it sometime hard to tie everything together, even if I rewatch your older videos. Would you be inclined to do a sort of wrap up video, at the end of this wonderful therory week, that explains everything in chronological order, like something a little bit more organized, so we can grasp and feel a little better all of the events that happened during FFXV history ?
Thank you ! You're doing an amazing kind of job, as always !
Carl Beaumier I actually like this idea. I second this.
I "third" that too :p Nvm, hmmm yeah it'll be cool to be able to replace every event in the order, so we can appreciate the maestria of this fcking well written lore and story.
It's more or so easy to understand what's going on if we take things separately, but so hard to bring them all together... I would never be able to do that on my own... My brain would melt...
100% respect to the team behind it, and developpers who took this seriously by leaving us hints, even though they didn't have time develop what was originally going to be a trilogy.
Hoping for a full remake of this in like 20 years or so :p
Carl Beaumier This please. Would be amazing
yeah its like we just saw 10% of whole FF15 STORY through Noctus view while 90% are just us Exploring and figuring out what the world story is about.
yep, this is needed. too many different theories that are all over the place. you should summarize your best and most proven theories and give a run-down on how it effects the lore of the game before, during, and after the events of Noctis.
I want an archaeologist fanny pack.....
Sue Lightning We all want fanny packs now!!
Eh, I'm more of a *messenger* bag person.
Dawn Wayfinder omg xD
If the Crystal really is a womb, that explains Vyv's comment about the cave on Ravatogh..."the finest view in all Creation." It's a vag xD
Damn buy that's deep! Talk about throwing a sausage down a hallway.
I am so obsessed to your theories haha.
I love the story in FFXV. It may have so many untold stories but you're doing an amazing job in bringing these missing information to light!
Quick note on some of the footage in this video. While half of the reenactment footage was indeed Aztec, the other half was from the movie 'apocalypto' which was predominantly Mayan. But as Mel Gibson admitted to it being dramatized with Aztec influence, plus the fact Mayan and Aztec cultures had almost identical parallels in their beliefs and sun worship. I used some from there.
I think it's amazing square have almost made a 'if the aztecs had advanced technology' type backstory and the base of all religion. So much love this aspect of the story! Secretly making the summons (gods) the bad guys cloaked as good and Ardyn (the great fallen angel himself) the fringe hero. Love it! FF, shtting on religion since 1987 :P
Excellent! I waited for this! muhahahahahaha
Sir Nonsense waited a million years? 😂 sorry I just noticed the Gilgamesh photo and I had to
damnit Jade not... again
btw just wondering so the 5th Angle is Ifrit the star is the Meteor? whats the trumpet? some kind of special spell for Meteor?
Final Fantasy Peasant i tagged you on a post about Ifrit and Ardyn. to me; it would make more sense if Solheim used the "Tower" to sent light to "Goddess" to help her because ifrit trapped her down there. this would be why Ifrit was imprisoned however Ardyn needed his assistance to find her so he could rid body of scourge. shit went south and Ardyn is the one who tore her heart out (in a fit of rage perhaps after being rejected her light-gave into datkness). Ifrit finds out and is devistate but also infected. he kills himself with his love-pyre fire and the plague spreads from Ifrits ashes. as a servant of ifrit; he tasks Ardyn to restore her soul. and then Bahamut gets involved selecting a King and Oracle.
These are some thoughts I've had for a while now.... ever since watching your Pitioss theory video that is. And I believe they add further credibility to a few key points of this video:
As far as Eos' power is concerned, and how it seems to encompass all aspects of the world of FF15, I believe Bahamut explicitly states that the full power of the crystal's light exceeds that of the 6. And since (according to the theories) the crystal is Eos' heart or her womb, or generally somehow related to her.... well it becomes pretty apparent that if there is any truth to that, then Eos must indeed play a much more profound role than just being another astral; that's how it seems to me anyway.
Also, as far as biblical references are concerned, considering how Ifrit's appearance has been based on the typical depictions of Lucifer, there is something I believe you should know. In greek another name for Lucifer is Eosphoros (!!!!). Eosphoros roughly translates to "bringer of the dawn", but another accurate interpretation would indeed be "carrier of the dawn" (I'm Greek myself, so trust me). As in "the one who carried the dawn out of a massive pit in the ground that served as her prison".
Wow! Im 5 years late, but wow... (i just played the game and was dragged to this channel)
@@gingerell4179 At least you played it yourself hahahah. I didn't own a system that could handle this game at the time, so all I had were pez's playthroughs! An amazing game nonetheless.
I remember learning about the Tower of Babel , how the ancient civilisation tried to challenge the gods by building a tower to the skies but the gods struck it down and the people were split apart , maybe that could also represent the creation of the different kingdoms like Lucis and Accordo etc - FF always ends up getting a lil bit biblical and the destruction of Solheim during the astral war could be a parallel between the two - Could be what Costlemark is a nod to - anyway AMAZING VIDEO I've been a bit iffy with theories at the moment but this video makes some of them seem more solid and legit , especially the creation of the star scourge and how it was spread around the world . Loved it and you've definitely changed my mind about these theories again 👌
Jade Baker It could represent the tower of babel from FFIV Kappa
It could represent either , where do you think they most like got the idea for the tower of Babel in IV ? From the bible story in the old testament
If Arden is like Lucifer, then we shouldn't believe half of what he says, since you know he's the father of lies
These are my favorite. And also another point for the Chrystal being the womb, noctis is seen floating through oblivion in the fetal position
You keep blowing my mind man I dont know how much more I can take
Pez, I just love your Mind-blowing videos and I truly want to thank you for every video you've done. Keep it up!
thankyou mate! :D
Another great video, Pez :D Keep up the outstanding work
You deserve a lot more subs. Your content and quality is more affectionate than some youtubers .
This explains the mariachi outfit! Noctis confirmed Mexican. Thanks Peasant >:3c
You missed a very important fact! that 2000 years ago when Ifrit went down to pitioss for Eos that when they finally climbed out with her and they fused on the top of the rock of ravatough, the seismic waves reached all the way down to hammerhead. This caused a huge atomic explosion as the waves triggered some plutonium along the way causing Ardyn to become evil and then 2000 years later when noct finally gets lured into killing ardyn , Regis turned back time and instead of Noct and the bros, the Easter bunny was born
Joe Stefano ohhhh...my brrah
Joe Stefano omg, i totally missed that. those writers at square enix sure know their Easter mythology. if you look at the group of bushes near the road to hammerhead and squint you can totally make out the Easter Bunny. this is insane, peasants, insane
I love your channel Pez. I really do. Your analysis of FFXV makes me appreciate it more than I initially did. Thank you.
Sees video in Subscriptions
"Oh yeah, Solheim, that other thing that's not in the game and means nothing."
Begins watching video
"Clocks? Dave's tattoos? Really?"
Here's a theory: Umbra was Ardyn all along! We never see the two together and Ardyn's clothes have the same colors as Umbra, and we know it's true because Ignis and Bahamut are secret lovers because Ignis is one of Bahamut's attacks in FFXIII, and all the gods are actually giant sex robot's created by Verstale, which is why Prompto want's to bone Cindy so bad because she's blond like Eos who is actually Celes because FF6 was a huge inspiration for FFXV and Stella was actually Noctis's mother who turned into the Marilith because Stella means star, which is a reference to Star Platinum from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure which is also where Noctis's Ultimate pose comes from, because Kingdom Hearts 3 2018 confirmed!!! Because that all makes about as much sense as this and the last theory you posted.
Peasant, I love you man, but come on, someone else made a pretty good theory and now you're just taking whatever they say as gospel to try to prove that FF15 isn't shit like so many people are saying. (Which I agree with, it is not shit.)
I love you man.
*vigorous clap until hands are raw*
this is the best man!
I was searching for a comment like this, thank you
I take it back. FF15 is shit.
You are my favourite youtuber! Everything I want in a channel . Thank you!
are you going to explain why bahamut was in eos womb
Thank you!!!!!! I've been wondering about that for some time, like wtf you doing in there bro. It looks almost like he's in the universe's hookah lounge.
yep
titan to Uranus, i am giggling like i'm in middle school again
my friend you have put together so many things that i have noticed like Daves tattoos nd have blown my mind great work
Heim- means home or land. It is a word coming from old norse and in german it means home. Sol- means sun. So solheim can mean the home of the sun. Aztec culture believed that id they did not offer blood by means of human sacrifice, the sun would not rise the next morning. The god of the sun in aztec culture is Huitzilopochtli.
I think it makes a food connection with the theory that solheim was after the energy of the sun. I do not know what else can be connected with this, hope this helps a little.
i swear, u make it so much more interesting for this game.
The amount of research u do to uncover all the lore and hidden stories that they seemingly put into this game is astounding. So much history from Norse mythology, lore from summons and even job related lore from the red mages..
u really make this game a complete tale.
which kinda makes sense why SE is putting so much into, still, developing this game.. they put a lot of time and money into developing this universe and making it soooo immersive. they want to get their moneys worth
Pez. I must apologize for not being to make your streams as of late, man. I miss the lifestream crew and hanging out with you. Thank you for making these videos and content as it has been the closest thing to hanging out with you, because i have been very busy lately.
The disc of Cauthess is a what kind of puzzle? I am a Latinist, currently training to become a Latin teacher, and would like to know exactly where Perona77 is getting their Latin from. Some of their translations seem VERY questionable to me.
Cesar Castaneda it says he went through A lot of trouble so it might be questionable
feel free to hit the link up in the decription for peronas full breakdown :)
Not only their translations, the whole theory is VERY questionable. It's not even a theory anymore, it's getting out of hand, this stuff is totally made up! I mean, they even had the courage to say that the arches have been created by the Titan because he is the...ARCHaean. Dude.
But everyone seems to blindly believe anything at this point.
Ya its gone off of the deep end badly. Since FFXV's release I've heard that the game is actually Draco and Maria's Opera from FF VI, that its FFVII in the future, that XV and VII are parallel universes, that there are multiple timelines now, that FFXV is essentially Stephen Kings The Dark Tower series, and now that Ifrit is the hero for rescuing his beloved based on VS artwork and concepts from 6 years ago and then just went to crazy down on Doomtrain from there
The only things for certain are that XV is quite good despite realistically should have been terrible, given that other developers botch games with much less internal turmoil. Another certainty is that like the original FF online XIV and the remake 2.0, this game shows just how badly SE mishandles their own projects over the last decade or so. If they could get Nomura as creative director and Tabata as game director and have them focus on ONE thing, they would be able to get back to producing polished top quality games. But their business and design choices are all over the place.
Haha yeah and the more it goes on the more absurd it gets. Let's take the crystal for example.
First it was the "heart of Eos" because the Ravatogh has a heart-shaped cavern (which doesn't even resemble a heart, but let's believe it);
now it' a uterus or a womb because Noctis enters it.
...What if it is just a crystal given to humans by the gods, as clearly stated in the game? We also know that previous scripts of the game featured at least 4 crystals, so the uterus theory couldn't even apply in the old story!
The whole Ravatogh theory itself is based on the wrong translation of "炎の神" (God of Flames, not ''pyreburner"). But hey, why checking the original before making up a theory?
what is the soundtrack in the background at 32:30?
u know whats funny about Ifrits story it feels like someone took Sephiroths and made a Religion from it xd Eos=Jenova Ifrit=Seph all is there the death, the containment... the use of her power, the meteor, he even took her womb/heart = Jenovas head! would be a funny easteregg even if unwanted xd
I love your theories Pez.
I don't believe for a second that they're true, or that Square thought even half as deep about things as you think they have, but they are entertaining :)
The problem for me in me believing in these theories comes from the fact that their foundation is just a head-canon. A compelling one for sure, but still only a head-canon.
I don't doubt that some elements could possibly be true, but it's not enough to convince me that FF15's story is anything more than what we got.
What's the phrase? Look hard enough for something and you will find it?
Keep on being you Pez. I look forward to the Messenger video!
If Tabata simplified the story, that itself is reason why it wouldn't be true. If that's the case, then the story has been simplified, and all these complex stories have been simplified into what we actually got in the game. Which is nothing close to what's in these theories, ergo, they are no longer true in the FFXV universe if they ever even were.
Dee When those ideas are completely missing from the game and are never hinted at let alone anything more substantial. Yeah it means those ideas didn't make it to the final product. Could they have been potential ideas that never made it, sure it's possible. But it doesn't really matter, it's not in the game now. It's not part of the world, lore, or story.
I want a full game that includes, solheim, nifelheim, etc.
Solheim definitely. I would kill for a prequel game of sorts for this game where we either explore the history of the Great War of Old, or Ardyn's tale. Unfortunately Square seems more interesting in giving us power ranger suits. :(
There is not unfortunately. I've seen playthroughs. It's basically a children's bedtime story in a sidscrolling beat em up. Interesting, but it doesn't go indepth into anything and it's hard to say whether the end boss was true or just Regis pimping up the story for Noct.
That said, I'm less interested in Regis and co than I am in the ancient history of this game. I would like to see the stories from 2000 or so years ago told. I don't much care what Regis and his band did in his time. :(
Nayukhuut episode Ardyn would be dope.
That's not gonna happen. SE doesn't care about hardcore fans, as long as it makes money, SE will NOT do anything further
Righteous1 So True ,it's a must.
Just curious if anyone has a theory connecting some of this to the fact that those dungeons are only accessible at night? Perhaps part of the betrayal was that they began to veer away from light and the dawn, opting to work in darkness instead, or demons are only active at night so they had to work in the darkness in order to try their experiments?
i always enjoy watching these theory videos. well done.
I knew there was something about Dave's tattoo! It had a lady on his arm and I wondered if it was a goddess.
I am also connecting this to one of my ideas that Dave's mother and aunt were servants of the Gods, like Gentiana
so nice to see tgis in my sub box so early in the morning :) thanks pez!
I bet most of these theories are just really good fan fiction because I just can't understand why would the developers make all of this if they don't use it in the actual game. It's pointless.
Jesse ? Because an open world game can't tell a linear story well
It's the ultimate paradox of game design better story = less freedom, more freedom = crapy story and finding a balance between the extremes is insanely tricky -_- Versus 13 was a semi linear game similar to Kingdom Hearts and was reworked into a Open world game with 2 major plot overhauls one to remove any connection to 13's God's as Etro was originally the major figure of this world's lore and Then Replacing the Grim Reaper Gods the made to replace Etro with the Astrals and Lucian Kings because They wanted to sell the game in China and no skeletons are allowed in media there basically they cut out huge chunks of story and stitched back together what they could
Your theory videos make me want a 15-2.
Further thing to support this theory is the very name Solheim - home of the sun. And with Niflheim being the world you have to pass through to enter Helheim (the underworld) in norse mythology, the name of this new nation is a funny little twist of the name of the old one. Wonder who came up with that name...
I love your theory videos! So well detailed and I hope that SE comes out and confirms these! This would make the game so much better like BloodBorne with its Lore! Making it way more detailed big time! I'd love to find out if all this is true! I can see Ignis trying to teach this stuff to Noct while he's in school and doesn't pay attention! Lol
Dark Misstrust keep waiting all this is Bullshit fantheory
Huh, it'd almost scary how well all that goes together...
I love how I have to come to RUclips for some guy to explain the lore just because a full priced game lacked it
beat the adamantoise in 2 hours, no guide...today was a good day
christopher box damn really??? I did it with a simple tip of using the zwillcrossblades and it still took me over 2 hours ;w;
Raikunai iron duke, my friend.
i cant get zwill coz that mofo is too hard to beat.
I don't intend to undermine your fantastic accomplishment but to ask a question that has been bugging me: Was it really meant to be a battle that took hours?
I suck at games a lot (and at XV) but I beat it in well under an hour when I went to take it on. With Normal Difficulty. Which is why the videos about beating it in under X hours have been puzzling.
Did I glitch it out somehow?
Ngl I beat it under 10-18 mins
Loving the theory videos as per Pez!! Amazing content sir.
got a longgg wait in the barbershop. so glad this popped up
"Quetzalcoatl" is pronounced "KET-zell-KWAH-toll."
I didn't know how to pronounce it for quite some time, either.
This video is great and I love the last info about the crystal being the womb. It make me laugh so hard. Thumps up! Choppo!
I always felt that the crystal was shaped like a womb on the inside. Did not help that Noct end up getting sucked in there and reborn as the one to end the world or ruin.
Another great video, I'm loving your theory videos, keep em comin!
I'm simply beside myself dude, good lord. Whatever this mystery DLC is, I really hope it delves deeper into some of these theories.
Well I'll continue to believe in these even if I'm the odd one out for doing so. The whole theory concept for me started with the Mass Effect Indoctrination Theory and I've never been one to dismiss them especially with the amount of supporting evidence being shown. Keen up the great work Pez & company.
Square 'Thanks for giving us credit for a place we cut out of the game.and didn't think much of it'
Heres the Womb and heart，we need to find her Pussy next. It contains the greatest secret of all time！
I am not sure how theres 9 astrals when they stated in the astrals war there.was.only 6. The other 3 wouldve been mentioned somewhere. Its too important to leave out.
Pit of Pitoss story about Eos and Ifrit will be the only thing I will believe. The further it gets stretched.the more it doesnt add up.
Ardyn was the original King betrayed by Izunia，seeking revenge. Its that simple. No complication needed.
FanJasBoy the Solfiem theory seems 80% legit to me concidering they are a major plot hole, and the dungeon archetecture kinda fills that plot hole. Ardyn and Izunia dont count as astrals because they are only half god or demigod, if you try and say they arnt children of Eos than you cant catch onto a train in ur face.
I loooove these theory videos
plus your voice is so amazing
hehehhee
thank you for all these vids
I like that the story isnt throw in you face and you havent to watch every cutscene to know everthing, you actually have to look at your surroundings and find it yourself
One day it's a heart, another day it's a womb. My god. Feels like Ryan Higa's crazy theories
these videos give me life!
though unfortunate that we need these to feel the story more instead of just the game my deepest respect goes to all and any researcher out there making these vids and sharing with us!!
I love this theory about the disc being a giant clock or some sort of astronomical instrument, and Etro a slave to Solheim. What do you make of the fact that Somnus's tomb is right next to the Meteor in the game? If the clock was destroyed 2000y ago, how come the founder king of Lucis is entombed in these ruins?
Well perhaps it didnt happen as long ago as we thought or maybe it was built long after the event
Love the theory videos. Keep up the good work!
Lol I had to watch this twice. super excited to see what you got coming for Ardyn
Love your videos, man. Keep it up.
Listening to this made me think of the shapes of Steyliff and Costlemark. You say Steyliff is like a womb, basically being a giant box with an opening in the middle, and it's the place where Solheim attempted to obtain immortality. I was thinking of how Costlemark is long and cylindrical, and ultimately ends in a tip, and its the place where they gathered the energy. Conclusion: If Steyliff is a giant vagina dungeon, then Costlemark is a giant sun penis.
Damn so much hidden story!!!! Now I need to replay the game again!!! Awesome theory videos Pez love them!!!
it is mind blowing I read the pitioss theory and from a fandom point it makes perfect fucking sense I even went as far as creating a another part to the theory to why ifrit loathe humans and why bahamut created the ring and Royal arms
This was amazing to watch!! There is a myth that an Aztec emperor had mistaken the Spanish invaders leader as Quetzalcoatl. I'm wondering if this is related to Ifirit and the starscourge? In some myths Quetzalcoatl was seen as light, justice, mercy and wind. What actually happened was the Spanish invaded and disease wiped out the population. Maybe the people of solheim thinking that Ifirit freeing Eos their light and Godess of dawn back to them. But what happened was a backfire for them. Ifirit bringing Eos's body back from Pitioss, burning the body to body and the starscourge that had infected her into the wind and Ifirit's attack on Solheim as punishment for their beliefs. That's just what I started thinking of from watching the video.
can someone please tell me what the title of the song is that Pez is playing at the very end of this video?
How do you get noctis to fly??? @7:10
You know that sad feeling you get after completing a good game and it feels like the journey is over? Thanks to you I haven't felt that yet. The best part is I did almost no side content and completed only one optional dungeon.
Impressive work as always.
What was that artbook we saw in the middle of the video? Where can I get it?
Where is the green eye picture from that keeps being used for Izunia?
There needs to be a whole video on the whole theme of advance ancient civilizations in the Final Fantasy series. They all virtually have one and each game has to deal with the sins of said ancient civilization whether it’s the main story or a side quest
Love you peasant. You do so much for the FF community. Great Video as always. Square should hire you.
The sun clock and a lot of Solheim theory makes a lot of sense
No one is wondering what is the Adamantoise backstory?
JoasXCloud giant monster scream for 2 years before getting tired and going to sleep for 2 eons. fin.
JoasXCloud Atlas' pet turtle CONFIRMED!!! omg peasants!!!
"Guys we need something impressive for the trailers!"
"Say no more fam!"
Oh my dear lord I was so convinced that the Crystal is Eos' heart but now that you say it's her womb it's much more logical! They displayed an artwork of Etro/Eos in versus 13 trailer where there's a hole in her stomach this matches your theory perfectly!
My mind blows every time I watch one of your videos. How many hours do spend researching per week?!
i think your theories are on point. I wish they added it in the game.
A note to clarify: Babylonian and Akkadian astronomy and religions affected later astronomies and religions which is why a number of allusions to the most ancient religions will seem to be tie ins with more contemporary religions, but it really isn't necessary. It's far more likely that they saved on the legwork and just went to the oldest magicko-religious texts for backstory. Easy peasy.
These theories are what make FFXV a tour de force of occult storytelling.
Can I get the music credits for the song at the end of this video
Hey peasant, I found a weird glitch (most likely) or an easter egg (if you can interpret it), but i think its cool n you should check it out, tell us wut you think of it, plus i don't think anyones caught on to this yet, not that I know of.
Ok, so after you beat the titan mission, the aura of the comet disappears right? Well if you go to the lake near Alstor Slough and look at the reflection of the comet through the lake, you'll see that the aura is still there... is that on purpose? or jus a glitch that needs to be patched?
32:14 "A fantasy based on reality"? *:D*
there was a war in type 0 that involved astrals. What if that was the old war. Also I think the story in type 0 is a time loop as well. So when 15 was still part of the nova crystallis, you can see the connections now. Time travel, war, astrals.
How can you have story spoilers in a game where they forgot the story?
Soulsborne
Thisisname never forgot the story it's all there...it was just not fed to you the way ppl are use to
There's a difference between feeding people the story and purposefully hide the key points of a story so that only a few players will find it. Ifrit's place in the story just isn't explained when you play the game, and that is a flaw. Ifrit just turns up as the evil guy. Why? No info unless you dig the story out in post-game Pitioss.
+Alex Gipson.
The story needs to be shoved in my face at every step of the way or else I won't acknowledge it. *:D*
I'm pretty sure when a youtuber has to explain 95% of the lore, you have a problem.
Wow, I was very disapointed of the final story but its amazing ! Everything is disimilated !
Wait does the sun rise in the West in Eos? In a past video you pointed out how the sun set over Mt. Ravatogh which is in the West. Or am I mistaken?
Hey pez Ik this is irrelevant but I did my college course interview today and it went really well so happy 🏄🏻♀️🏄🏻♀️💥
Great vid as usj ma boi!!
congratz chilli! I am please for you me ol' chum :D
can u plz explain i dont get when he purifies ardyn was his soul destroyed or he moved on
Good reference to the Aztecs and Mayans, really nice indeed ~
Quet-zal-coat-al.
As an 8 year old playing FF8 I called it "Quexy-cottle" :P
dont worry even today... I cant fuking spell it right xd
Amazing video pez! question: you mentioned that the crystal is the womb of Eos leading to life of the MTs in Niflheim but the crystal was in Insomnia before (Kingsglaive) and there were MTs already. can you expound on this? thanks mate.
how are u in armiger god mode outside the story points?
Freund would be so a big fan of XV. Maybe his work was a inspiration for square
Where do you get your music ar
final fantasy peasant is a legend love your vids
Peasant! Take a look at this theory about Anglegard!
Angelgard could be a kind of place where Ardyn was sealed for the first time before the astrals started their sleeping period. Today, watching again this place in detail in the video below I can think of that theory to be true:
Titan: Maybe the whole island and its special form because of some collision? also the prison section is a big rock
Shiva: There is some kind of ice structure sealing the place from the top, with a very similar shape as classic shivas ice diamond attacks
Bahamut: The prison is surrounded by his swords maybe, they remind me a lot of the ones he uses in the final chapter fighting Ifrit
Leviathan: Its an island, maybe it was surrounded by aggressive currents or due too its eroded form on the sides in some kind of circular pattern , a giant water swirl or whirlwind (My English is not very good, im triying to say a kind of water tornado around) was always around the island
Ramuh: Maybe a permanent storm around the island, using the swords of bahamut as conductors to imprison Ardyn in a permanent thunder storm
What do you think?
Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/-dgnezk1Kio/видео.html
Also makes sense that these ruins only opened at night when Eos wouldn't be shining her light on what they where doing before they captured her!!!
I may be wrong now, but as far as I remember... didn't the other kingdoms have their own cristals and just insomnia was able to keep the last one?
how many hearts/wombs/thingies would Eos have had then? Not too convincing, don't you think? I wouldn't fokus only on this couple's theories. Some things they seemingly see in some pictures are doubtable.
Tidus8319 well that was the original story from Versus XIII. There is no mention of other crystals in XV or its overall mythology so it's probably something that was written out during the transition
TheSuperWayne
Actually the multiple crystals thing was confirmed to still be cannon in FF15.
Chaotic Heretic is it? Hmm never mentioned in the game or any official source material that I'm aware of. Can you provide a source? I'd like to see that
I remember it being in an interview, but I can't find it so feel free to ignore me for now, but i'm still looking.
ok, i thought t'was in the kingsglaive intro, but it wasn't.
but anyway... i read the article and some interpretation just seems a bit too far fetched...
the hierarchy also sounds a bit off.
People keep saying that they don't think SE thought this deeply and had made this much story and history behind what we saw in FFXV, here's what I have to say...
If you research about storytelling, or writing a novel, you will find that as the author/creator, you are supposed to know 100 things about the world and tell the reader only 1. It's that ratio. The reader will only come to know 1% of the world that you have created.
If we saw less than what they originally wanted to show us, then potentially there IS another 99.5% of history that we didn't get told in the game.
I'll try to keep this brief:
I believe the heart of Eos is in fact a womb: 1. It is the source of life which Solheim and later Nilfheim were exploiting. 2. In one of your theory videos you show the statue of Eos with a hole where her womb would be. 3. When Noctis is sleeping in the crystal he is in the foetal position.
As far as the biblical influences are concerned these are everywhere, even to the depiction of Ifrit which draws from Rennaisance influences. At the end when Noctis is on the throne his father is standing beside him facing away. This is very similar to the crucifixion when God the Father turned away from his son (My God, my God why have you forsaken me?). In the end it is the father that gives the final blow to Noctis. One could argue that were it not for God and His Holy nature, Jesus would not have had to die, so whilst some argue it was the Jews that killed Jesus, I believe it was in fact God Himself as part of His plan to redeem mankind.
I do not believe FF games are anti-religion (with the possible exception of XIII). They draw from many different spiritual aspects. They make us think and challenge our beliefs and I personally believe this is an excellent thing.
FF Peasant, I've been watching your videos for a while. Thanks for putting in the work and delving into all this theory crafting. It's almost near impossible to expect the audience at large to find this type of lore through the story. It makes looking back on the main story, much more interesting.
For example, the idea that the crystal is the womb of Eos. It makes sense, since Noctis goes back into the womb and becomes reborn. (A popular motif)
Consider the fact that Noctis enters the fetal position, confronting the fact that he's going to die. (The fear/sadness on his face surprisingly brought more emotion back into me, when I first saw it.) So, I think it's really safe to confirm that it's likely him being in the "Womb of Eos" This game relies heavily on imagery, so Noctis doing that must have a deeper meaning, right?
How r u flying in parts of the video?