I do love stronghold on titans, though i still use it on prismatic so i can get the most out of ergo sum. You do lose out on a little extra sword damage and some extra healing but the extra bonuses ergo gives to prismatic is very nice. But i wont deny how good it is on strand, basically its do you want to be more tanky(strand) or have ergo sum do more damage and help with transcendant(prismatic) Ergo sum with either perfect 5th on a caster frame, telesto on vortex, any wolfpack, or arc conducter on caster. Then i go with either thronecleaver with engaurd for a swap back and forth style, or crown splitter with whirlwind woth wolfpack rounds to get full stacks
I really wanted to make a prismatic version, and while I think there are some good options, Strand just felt better with banner. Honestly if Prismatic would have gotten banner over Drengr's Lash, I would have instantly made a Prismatic version.
@luckymec if they got banner over drangers lash then banner would have been the only one any titan ever used because banner is so strong lol. I see why they didnt give it to them... but still wish they got a lite something else. Honestly i am weighing the pros and cons on deciding if i swap to strand or stay prismatic. I still dont have the catalyst but if i did it would be useless of strand titan, but is that 20-50% power buff plus ammo on grenade hits enough to overshadow banner of wars massive sustain and all the time sword buff?
@@zferolie yeah but, we have this problem with consecration... i mean, is the only reasonable option. I think prismatic is so weak in titan, that i didn't even bother using it since i finished the campaign. Solar or strand titan is so much more versatile and useful, that, at least for me, doesn't even make sense using prismatic.
@@furmiga3d346 yeah i suppose every one of my7 prismatic builds uses concecration. I feel like thunderclap has potential if you can get fast recharge are easy lockdown, which an abyent leap class item may help with, but still... I still enjoy my prismatic titan using the new failsafe exotic, though its mostly because i combine that with a conceration build with 2 of my favorite weapons(abyss defiant and two tailed fox) plus the broken call sidearm lol. Honestly not sure what they can do to really make prismatic titan stand out without some major reworks... EDIT: I forgot my other prismatic build i like a lot, my Scars/assassin combo with red death. lets me be a high damage but also high support and keeps myself and the team alive pretty well. granted i only tried this since precious scars is bugged on solar atm, but i so enjoy it on prismatic even without benevelance and emperian.
@@zferolie yeah, i agree. thunderclap can be great with the insurmountable skullfort, that will allow you to spam it, as long you get at least one kill with it, wich means you have to play solo, or else while you're charging the thunderclap, one of your fireteam members will kill your target and you will miss, and your build falls apart until it recharges. It can be fun, but also annoying. i think they can make prismatic really great if they add some of the other aspects, to at the very least allows you to get some synergy in your builds, that's why it is so bad right now, the only synergy there is, is consecration/knockout with the strand melee, or consecration/(the strand aspect that i forget the name) with the abeyant leap (the leg, not the mark version). anyways, they could add tectonic harvest for some stasi synergy, or even one of the void aspects, any of them would be better then the one we have right now...
Ive been toying around with this a little bit and it slaps. I have been using the new raid SMG as ny strand weapon because Demo and Chaos Reshape goes crazy then I've been running both a caster ergo sum and ill omens. Caster frame swords like Ergo and Omens really help with the enemy that can't be hit issue when you do decide to do heavy attacks.....granted the SMG wirh Chaos Reshaped and Strand Weapon Surge still puts in crazy work on all sorts of enemies.
@@LittleCrowYT the health regen is the only thing you miss out on from BOW. You can get better damage resist from Woven, AMP(w/artifact), Frost Armor, and/or Overshield if you build into it.
@@capeclintyes which is what makes you invincible while guarding. You don’t need more DR when you have strongholds. What you need is healing while you’re guarding which is what BoW provides
i've been using this build since forever mate. People don't actually get how broken fortress is. But I'm not gonna lie, I can't see a reason to change Lament for Ergo sum... it feels so weak, and Lament does so much damage, and you can actually melt those flying bosses you said you couldn't hit with a sword before Ergo sum, just use the special mode of lament and you're ready to cook. the only argument you could use against Lament is the ammo economy, wich is fine, but, in all these years rocking the lament + fortress combo, i never had a issue with that, and man, do i use this sword to kill almost everything. Anyways, great build thought.
Lament is currently 1 of the lowest damaging swords in the game with some ergo sum rolls doing more than it. With the recent nerfs its even worse then it was previously and really has lost any place in the "meta" its had.
@@Strange-xc4qn i don't know from where did you get this information, but since i saw your comment, i went to "Carl the cabal" with all my swords, to test then and see if this proceeds... and no, it doesn't. of all the so called meta sword, none was not even close to reach the damage of lament, you see, i tried, without any buff, the basic combo that i use with lament: light + light + heavy. with only two combos, carl is dead, ergo sum, the one with the risk runner perk, wich was the one with the best performance, needed 4 combos, all the other rolls was 5 to 6 combos. Guillotine, with vorpal weapon and bait and swich, needed 5 combos, for some reason. And the only weapon that got even with lament was throne breaker, that needed only 2 combos and a light atack to finish carl. so, i don't know where you got that lament is weak... but that's just wrong mate, you might just be using it wrong, try this combo and see it: hold the guard while you do it tho, that's the right way to use lament.
@@furmiga3d346 The reason Lament is falling behind is because Wolfpack Rounds do not work with it. If it did, it would likely be one of the best swords. Lament is currently doing 114k DPS while the best roll Ergo is doing 168k with Wolfpack Rounds. I think Lament is fine in solo play, and is still a strong option for raids like Master Crota since you get the added benefit of being healed while doing damage. It's also badass af so bonus points on top of that too. Ergo with a Wave Frame and The Perfect Fifth is the roll that you want if anyone is wondering.
@@furmiga3d346the math is out there man. The Lament nerf’s hit it hard. Still probably fine for major and champ killing, and the heal is still valuable, but for boss DPS, it’s beaten by Legendary Swords and surprisingly, 1 specific Ergo Sum role. A caster frame Ergo Sum with the Perfect Fifth is THE highest DPS sword in the game bar none.
I mean I couldn’t beat the dual destiny mission until I used swords on the 2 bosses. Swords melt those guys any guns outside of microcosm are like shooting them with BB guns, but swords nuked their health and we was on a hunter and warlock.
Swords are NOT the meta, titan consecration is way to good, it makes no sense to use swords + with consegration you can still use usefull weapons for champions/damage
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I like how the video also explains the reasoning behind the build. It’s especially helpful for someone coming back after Lightfall’s “campaign”.
I do love stronghold on titans, though i still use it on prismatic so i can get the most out of ergo sum. You do lose out on a little extra sword damage and some extra healing but the extra bonuses ergo gives to prismatic is very nice. But i wont deny how good it is on strand, basically its do you want to be more tanky(strand) or have ergo sum do more damage and help with transcendant(prismatic)
Ergo sum with either perfect 5th on a caster frame, telesto on vortex, any wolfpack, or arc conducter on caster. Then i go with either thronecleaver with engaurd for a swap back and forth style, or crown splitter with whirlwind woth wolfpack rounds to get full stacks
I really wanted to make a prismatic version, and while I think there are some good options, Strand just felt better with banner. Honestly if Prismatic would have gotten banner over Drengr's Lash, I would have instantly made a Prismatic version.
@luckymec if they got banner over drangers lash then banner would have been the only one any titan ever used because banner is so strong lol. I see why they didnt give it to them... but still wish they got a lite something else.
Honestly i am weighing the pros and cons on deciding if i swap to strand or stay prismatic. I still dont have the catalyst but if i did it would be useless of strand titan, but is that 20-50% power buff plus ammo on grenade hits enough to overshadow banner of wars massive sustain and all the time sword buff?
@@zferolie yeah but, we have this problem with consecration... i mean, is the only reasonable option. I think prismatic is so weak in titan, that i didn't even bother using it since i finished the campaign. Solar or strand titan is so much more versatile and useful, that, at least for me, doesn't even make sense using prismatic.
@@furmiga3d346 yeah i suppose every one of my7 prismatic builds uses concecration. I feel like thunderclap has potential if you can get fast recharge are easy lockdown, which an abyent leap class item may help with, but still...
I still enjoy my prismatic titan using the new failsafe exotic, though its mostly because i combine that with a conceration build with 2 of my favorite weapons(abyss defiant and two tailed fox) plus the broken call sidearm lol.
Honestly not sure what they can do to really make prismatic titan stand out without some major reworks...
EDIT: I forgot my other prismatic build i like a lot, my Scars/assassin combo with red death. lets me be a high damage but also high support and keeps myself and the team alive pretty well. granted i only tried this since precious scars is bugged on solar atm, but i so enjoy it on prismatic even without benevelance and emperian.
@@zferolie yeah, i agree.
thunderclap can be great with the insurmountable skullfort, that will allow you to spam it, as long you get at least one kill with it, wich means you have to play solo, or else while you're charging the thunderclap, one of your fireteam members will kill your target and you will miss, and your build falls apart until it recharges. It can be fun, but also annoying.
i think they can make prismatic really great if they add some of the other aspects, to at the very least allows you to get some synergy in your builds, that's why it is so bad right now, the only synergy there is, is consecration/knockout with the strand melee, or consecration/(the strand aspect that i forget the name) with the abeyant leap (the leg, not the mark version).
anyways, they could add tectonic harvest for some stasi synergy, or even one of the void aspects, any of them would be better then the one we have right now...
If your using the strand subclass, taking radiant orbs does nothing, right? Unless i read it wrong
Oh no you're right, I completely forgot about that since I've been running prismatic so much. Good catch 👍
Ive been toying around with this a little bit and it slaps.
I have been using the new raid SMG as ny strand weapon because Demo and Chaos Reshape goes crazy then I've been running both a caster ergo sum and ill omens.
Caster frame swords like Ergo and Omens really help with the enemy that can't be hit issue when you do decide to do heavy attacks.....granted the SMG wirh Chaos Reshaped and Strand Weapon Surge still puts in crazy work on all sorts of enemies.
Remember Ergo gets a 50-ish % dmg buff with Transcendence
And facet of courage is another 10% for Darkness debugged targets, so a lot better damage on Prismatic than strand.
Yeah but no BOW and that's honestly the majority reason why swords are even usable in harder content
@@LittleCrowYT the health regen is the only thing you miss out on from BOW. You can get better damage resist from Woven, AMP(w/artifact), Frost Armor, and/or Overshield if you build into it.
Completely meaningless, unless you're using caster perfect fifth for sword dps, then all other rolls of ergo sum suck for damage anyways
@@capeclintyes which is what makes you invincible while guarding. You don’t need more DR when you have strongholds. What you need is healing while you’re guarding which is what BoW provides
thanks this is legit AF! It can solo this weeks GM's pretty easy
Ive been using lament strand and stonghold its so nice (imo)
Oh I bet 👍
I'm just coming back to Destiny and don't have strand or prismatic fully unlocked, but I'm unkillable with the void stronghold build
Gonna try this. Sounds cool
Why run Radiant Orbs when your not on a Solar or Prismatic build?
25% damage bonus while radiant on any class
I love this I am a big fan of swords in this game and the strongholds are op
what’s the sword combo again, light light heavy??
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i've been using this build since forever mate. People don't actually get how broken fortress is. But I'm not gonna lie, I can't see a reason to change Lament for Ergo sum... it feels so weak, and Lament does so much damage, and you can actually melt those flying bosses you said you couldn't hit with a sword before Ergo sum, just use the special mode of lament and you're ready to cook.
the only argument you could use against Lament is the ammo economy, wich is fine, but, in all these years rocking the lament + fortress combo, i never had a issue with that, and man, do i use this sword to kill almost everything.
Anyways, great build thought.
Lament is currently 1 of the lowest damaging swords in the game with some ergo sum rolls doing more than it. With the recent nerfs its even worse then it was previously and really has lost any place in the "meta" its had.
@@Strange-xc4qn i don't know from where did you get this information, but since i saw your comment, i went to "Carl the cabal" with all my swords, to test then and see if this proceeds... and no, it doesn't. of all the so called meta sword, none was not even close to reach the damage of lament, you see, i tried, without any buff, the basic combo that i use with lament: light + light + heavy.
with only two combos, carl is dead, ergo sum, the one with the risk runner perk, wich was the one with the best performance, needed 4 combos, all the other rolls was 5 to 6 combos. Guillotine, with vorpal weapon and bait and swich, needed 5 combos, for some reason. And the only weapon that got even with lament was throne breaker, that needed only 2 combos and a light atack to finish carl.
so, i don't know where you got that lament is weak... but that's just wrong mate, you might just be using it wrong, try this combo and see it: hold the guard while you do it tho, that's the right way to use lament.
Ergo is actually the highest dmg sword if you get the right rolls
@@furmiga3d346 The reason Lament is falling behind is because Wolfpack Rounds do not work with it. If it did, it would likely be one of the best swords. Lament is currently doing 114k DPS while the best roll Ergo is doing 168k with Wolfpack Rounds. I think Lament is fine in solo play, and is still a strong option for raids like Master Crota since you get the added benefit of being healed while doing damage. It's also badass af so bonus points on top of that too.
Ergo with a Wave Frame and The Perfect Fifth is the roll that you want if anyone is wondering.
@@furmiga3d346the math is out there man. The Lament nerf’s hit it hard. Still probably fine for major and champ killing, and the heal is still valuable, but for boss DPS, it’s beaten by Legendary Swords and surprisingly, 1 specific Ergo Sum role. A caster frame Ergo Sum with the Perfect Fifth is THE highest DPS sword in the game bar none.
I mean I couldn’t beat the dual destiny mission until I used swords on the 2 bosses. Swords melt those guys any guns outside of microcosm are like shooting them with BB guns, but swords nuked their health and we was on a hunter and warlock.
This is very fun! Tried it today and fell in love with the build. cheers!
(Commenting here bc i couldnt do it in the main vid)
I only use sword I’m pretty much immortal with my group they don’t complain I get most kills and about 3 place in damage and we did all the raid
Could you recommend specific swords? A friend of mine likes this style too and he struggles with DMG and survivability. Titan main clearly
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"i really wanted to make this with prismatic but honestly.......PRISMATIC IS DOG SHAT".... THERE i fixed it for you.
You have one build with prismatic 😂😅😢
Swords are NOT the meta, titan consecration is way to good, it makes no sense to use swords + with consegration you can still use usefull weapons for champions/damage
Noob
@@benjaminwilson2688 how am I a noob?
Consecrating everything gets boring sometimes. This build is refreshing.
@@tlycan4 yes it does get boring
Some people want to try different things
You are wasting 50% of ergo sum by not going on prismatic
Wait why? I don’t have the sword yet campaign has been like pulling teeth on legendary for titans.
@@norsefirefighter the perks and catalyst require you to be transcendent
@@deathblock901 fair enough thank you
@@deathblock901 Which is fairly easy to build tbh. Balance out your weapon/subclass for dark and light. (Arc Conductor made it easier)
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