cool video, I think this mix demonstrates how a bottom mic on the snare makes the snare sound fat in a mix, harsh on its own, but blended with top mic, bass, gt, it sounds fat. One of my fav drum recordings on this track.
Are there any more videos like this on RUclips? This is so awesome to see him talking about particular elements of the song while showing us the tracks.
@Oneness100 You are right that they didn't hgave software plugins, but they had racks of eqs that simply werent automated, so every eq automation and fader movement had to to be recorded live to tape. So yes, they didn't have half of what we have today, but nonetheless, a lot of these concepts and effects have been around for 50 years.
Dope video! Looks like PT 6.... Crazy we are already at PT 11 now. I learned on PT 7 in 2006 & before that it was Adobe Audition/Cool Edit Pro. Good stuff WAVES & Manny!
@BouvrieMax Sometimes we put a lot of work and fx in one thing just thinking what a professional would do, but when I saw this video I had the answer I was looking for a long time. "Sometimes you have to leave things alone"
leaving things alone is a good tip. when people start recording, usually their playing too, and then they just concentrate on learning all the 'recording' and forget the actual song arrangement and playing. most the time the aim of recording is to be as unintrusive as possible. and sticking a mic infront is just a way of getting sound to your desk, so control sounds on your amp and guitar instead and leave it alone after.
@Oneness100 but they had the rooms. i can probably speak for a lot of us when i say that the places we are stuck recording in are not the greatest. i try to put foam all around the things im recording but i am not allowed to alter the room im in at all. im still stuck having to travel to my parents house to record anything since my apartment is so small. i have to deal with being in a basement with a furnace running and a load of laundry going 10 feet away from me.
well, this was a very uninformative interview... all I got out of it in regards to this mix was that he put a de-esser on mayers vocal, and EQ'ed the return of the bottom snare. and that was as specific as he got....
is he saying - you can record somthing - have it sound good - and not really touch the board ? If he is ...i have often thought "right, time to mix - sounds good though , ...but i just HAVE to twiddle -just to wreck the dynamics " ....in other words , we mix -because we are supposed to - regardless of whether it needs it ?
to be honest. If an engineer tells your to cut 400hz out of all your guitars. I would honestly say he has no clue what he is talking about. Because every guitar and room that you record in has different frequencies in them. so for my studio I may have to cut 200hz but for you it might be 500hz so you would have to boost and sweet until you find a bad frequencies and then cut it. and do the same find a good one and raise it.
This guy knows his shit makes me feel like super dumb like i could never make a great recording. But he's been doing this for ever and had to go to school for it i didnt. Awsum vid tho.
I don't know how to say this, but why can't music be recorded with just plain old fashion good miking techniques in a good room and just have sound good without any modifications whatsoever? they didn't have all of these fancy plug-ins when the Beatles did their best albums did they?
It's not that bad at all, there are many keys on your keyboard right? Same here, you take a single strip (1 channel) and you duplicate it to make your board. Of course there's more than that but it's not that hard
@ThuSkyline Word! It's like if you would meet scarlett johansson as an homeless... I don't think she'll be that hot. Things must have the cream on top of the cake to be great.
the context of what a “mix engineer” does has changed quite a bit in the last 15 years. Back then the projects that were sent to be mixed had already gone through a whole process of refinement from the artist, engineer and producer. What he’s saying in this video is more about his approach to bringing out the most of the work that has already been done; emphasizing ideas and honoring the source material (recorded with proper levels) by making smaller moves to allow everything to sit together a bit better. Not exactly a “vocal chain breakdown” or “secret sauce” but it still has great points about technique. Just my takeaway 🙏
@@prodbyGuava You've done well and just in time. I'm a beginner searching for secret mixing techniques, and I was so disappointed by this video and the complete lack of any other information regarding how mixing was done for Mayer. You were so generous to enlighten me with those points. I now understand that I need to work harder on the scores, sources, and initial balance of the sound, and not overcomplicate the mixing process
this mix demonstrates the meaning of good source recordings....
this video has saved my mixes. leaving shit alone in the long run makes EVERY thing sound better. thank you.
What a great song to demonstrate your mixing skills to the masses... "I dont trust myself"....
These videos are so helpful. To get in the mind of a person in the recording session is just as important as what to play.
cool video, I think this mix demonstrates how a bottom mic on the snare makes the snare sound fat in a mix, harsh on its own, but blended with top mic, bass, gt, it sounds fat. One of my fav drum recordings on this track.
2:24 - Pino layers a 3rd up harmony, only on the 1/4 notes. How did I not hear that before :)
Genius!!
what?
can you explain it to me :(
thats amazing!
I love that sound. I am inspired to do a song with a tight groove like that. Keep rockin.
So happy for this unique view of one of the greatest
Are there any more videos like this on RUclips? This is so awesome to see him talking about particular elements of the song while showing us the tracks.
@Oneness100 You are right that they didn't hgave software plugins, but they had racks of eqs that simply werent automated, so every eq automation and fader movement had to to be recorded live to tape. So yes, they didn't have half of what we have today, but nonetheless, a lot of these concepts and effects have been around for 50 years.
he reminds me of a. sanchez (amazing jazz drummer/one of my favorites) .
This is a guy I would like to have recording my stuff. He sounds more like he knows what he's doing/not doing than most of these youtubers.
Very cool vid
Lots of passion in your mix ideas, and look forward to learning from your work Manny
Cheers Scott
@ThuSkyline I totally agree aside from the 5 watt amp thing, 5 watt amps are a beast for recording. Tube amps, that is.
Dope video! Looks like PT 6.... Crazy we are already at PT 11 now. I learned on PT 7 in 2006 & before that it was Adobe Audition/Cool Edit Pro. Good stuff WAVES & Manny!
If you look at the top left of his screen, Pro Tools use to show the version. It says "Pro Tools HD 7.3.1"
Maaan this guy is amazing.
John Mayer. Great musician!
I'm trying to pick up as much info as I can, put it altogether and do my thing,
thanks
@BouvrieMax Sometimes we put a lot of work and fx in one thing just thinking what a professional would do, but when I saw this video I had the answer I was looking for a long time. "Sometimes you have to leave things alone"
talent aside, I met this dude a few months back. such a cool guy.
NIcholas Wylie how?
The Waves products are just so damn GOOD.
🐐 of ALL🐐s
leaving things alone is a good tip. when people start recording, usually their playing too, and then they just concentrate on learning all the 'recording' and forget the actual song arrangement and playing. most the time the aim of recording is to be as unintrusive as possible. and sticking a mic infront is just a way of getting sound to your desk, so control sounds on your amp and guitar instead and leave it alone after.
@IamHymn75 I dont get calling Mayer a "thief" part. Elaborate?
@Oneness100 but they had the rooms. i can probably speak for a lot of us when i say that the places we are stuck recording in are not the greatest. i try to put foam all around the things im recording but i am not allowed to alter the room im in at all. im still stuck having to travel to my parents house to record anything since my apartment is so small. i have to deal with being in a basement with a furnace running and a load of laundry going 10 feet away from me.
Reeally interesting. Great video
Wow great ideas and a great view on mixing.
well, this was a very uninformative interview... all I got out of it in regards to this mix was that he put a de-esser on mayers vocal, and EQ'ed the return of the bottom snare. and that was as specific as he got....
i agree im sill learning when to stop ek or comp
Good to know there's always 2nd guessing from the masters once they're "out of the box" (the studio) too!
Recorded at a beautiful studio in nyc with Steve Jordan
@OwensMusic1
Probably from the band and their producer.
I see a Fulltone TTE in the background... mm mm good
Excellent tutorial. Insightful comments.
what effect is the lead vocals passing through giving it this flanger/Auto tune effect?
14 years later but its an envelope filter
is he saying - you can record somthing - have it sound good - and not really touch the board ? If he is ...i have often thought "right, time to mix - sounds good though , ...but i just HAVE to twiddle -just to wreck the dynamics " ....in other words , we mix -because we are supposed to - regardless of whether it needs it ?
what does he mean when he says the RETURN of the bottom snare? Isn't it basically the bottom snare track? Why does he say 'THE RETURN'
reverb return i guess? sounds like it has some slappy verb on it but i was interested to know how exactly you get that sound...
how'd you get all the tracks seperate?
to be honest. If an engineer tells your to cut 400hz out of all your guitars. I would honestly say he has no clue what he is talking about. Because every guitar and room that you record in has different frequencies in them. so for my studio I may have to cut 200hz but for you it might be 500hz so you would have to boost and sweet until you find a bad frequencies and then cut it. and do the same find a good one and raise it.
Yeah, but when your gtr sounds like a choking goose, you might take the advice.
it s all about instincrs it s the music u re dealing with
how did he mess up the Kendrick Album tho...
Love it
THANK YOU!!!!
Damn, Robert Whittaker is a man of many talents.
Furnace noise - with laundry sounds{in stereo}
-could be the next big thing though !
and how do you go about it to make it sound shit like an mp3? lol
the return to the board as opposed to in PT.
...so what does this sound like in concert?
This guy knows his shit makes me feel like super dumb like i could never make a great recording. But he's been doing this for ever and had to go to school for it i didnt. Awsum vid tho.
i'm not a engineer or something, but this stuff are very interesting
Have you ever been a sound engineer or a simple sound tech?
the advice people give in tutorials like this is very nice, but i would help more if the audio would be recorded to not only a mic for the talking
I don't know how to say this, but why can't music be recorded with just plain old fashion good miking techniques in a good room and just have sound good without any modifications whatsoever? they didn't have all of these fancy plug-ins when the Beatles did their best albums did they?
It's not that bad at all, there are many keys on your keyboard right? Same here, you take a single strip (1 channel) and you duplicate it to make your board. Of course there's more than that but it's not that hard
do this and do that ????
sweet!!
tell them man!!!
says at the beginning.....................
I can definitely relate lol #expressyoursoul
wena manny!
@ThuSkyline
Word!
It's like if you would meet scarlett johansson as an homeless... I don't think she'll be that hot.
Things must have the cream on top of the cake to be great.
cool guy
The majority of them actually all do the same thing, just to different channels.
Me who has never been hugged in my life😄
Do not copy. Create your own sound. There is no sence in believing high tech engineers in high tech studios at all.
4:44 burp!?!? wtf? :D
@Tommygrules I pity you lol replace your ears asap
Who the hell is john mayer?
Aha
Everyone has a pair of NS10s
Its funny how these big producers pretend like they actually use these plug ins.
they do
But they do though....
He doesn't give any information at all, just 5 minutes of time wasting.
He said almost nothing on the subject
the context of what a “mix engineer” does has changed quite a bit in the last 15 years. Back then the projects that were sent to be mixed had already gone through a whole process of refinement from the artist, engineer and producer. What he’s saying in this video is more about his approach to bringing out the most of the work that has already been done; emphasizing ideas and honoring the source material (recorded with proper levels) by making smaller moves to allow everything to sit together a bit better. Not exactly a “vocal chain breakdown” or “secret sauce” but it still has great points about technique. Just my takeaway 🙏
@@prodbyGuava thanks for your comment! I understood!
@@MusicalVenture hell yeah, I was hoping I didn’t come off preachy or anything 😅
@@prodbyGuava You've done well and just in time. I'm a beginner searching for secret mixing techniques, and I was so disappointed by this video and the complete lack of any other information regarding how mixing was done for Mayer. You were so generous to enlighten me with those points. I now understand that I need to work harder on the scores, sources, and initial balance of the sound, and not overcomplicate the mixing process
And he reveals nothing...
What is there to reveal?
Most lame explanation of what to/not to do Ive ever heard.How about "Ill show you how I did it."
the way this guy keeps his jaw clenched annoys the hell out of me.
You're a racist! You probably hope trump builds his wall.