canvoodoo the best reflection on RUclips !! Thanks man I thought about it too and by the way .. the guys from cakewalk copy them and do the same for their flagship DAW (Sonar) fuckin' please .. hhhhh
Waves must have a SSL 4000 Collection special or something because this is the 3rd video I see in my subscription feed about the SSL plugins from various channels.
Its also a good idea to use the Waves NLS on the last insert of your channel signal chains in the mix. Obviously the NLS would be set to the SSL configuration... And have the NLS stereo buss on the master fader for the true SSL experience
great plugin. those interested might want to try the Harrison Mixbus 32C console. It was designed from the ground up by Harrison Consoles to simulate their analogue hardware right down to the electrical circuit. But instead of doing that per-track, the entire console is emulated. Correct me if I am wrong. I love using it. The workflow is immediate and fast. No need to display a plugin window floating over your daw. I think propellerhead does a similar thing?
Just for kicks I checked an SSL E 4000 G+ console price on ebay: €59000. And Waves' plug collection costs $299 at their site right now. So it's not the same sound as the console, but... with a bit of perspective, the plugs are useful and practical, especially if you're mixing on the go. Nice presentation.
Love it! I was kind of struggeling with having to much fancy plugins and WOW!-making machines in my DAW, when I tried this it was like going back to school and it was really exciting! Fixed my mix! Thank you Graham!
this is the way i do it in cubase with the G channel. I have the plugin mapped out to the tascam us2400 and its all you need! It has everything you need. EQ, HP/LP, gate, comp,
*WOW!! Super Video!* Amazing! I have the Wave SSL plugins and i like it. This Sound is very good. Thank you so much for this great Video. Very best regards from Anni from Germany 💕 💞 💓 💗 💖
I'm sure I read somewhere that the plugins add an analogue interpolation so that 2 channels with the same audio, same SSL plug in with the same settings will sound different to mimic the different in the analogue path. I also find that when wearing a button down collar, I think it sounds better when those buttons are engaged but that's just personal opinion.
What would be great is if Waves had a "vertical" view mode on the SSL channel strip to look more like the console strip, the scheps 73 has a + - fader mode?!
How do you insert the SSL channel strip on all your tracks at once? (3:41) I've tried selecting all tracks, but it only puts the plugin on the first track. What's the modifier key? Thanks!
I have this and the NLS but I use both on each track, since the SSL plugin doesn't have unique channels. Wish the SSL channel strip had a bus to do NLS from within and unique channel presence.
I wish the NLS-channels would be narrower visually and there was some kind of "tray" I could throw them in to move them around together. - That last thing would probably depend on the DAW, and I suppose Reaper could do that... But anyway. They're so chunky with lots of dead space. - I love using them to emulate a console, but it's elaborate and tedious to have to switch between them while trying to do levels and such. I know you can do part on the Buss, but still, I don't like when plug-ins use a lot of visual real-estate.
Hi, what about the argument that you need to use K Metering (minus 14dB or minus 20db) to mix through modelled plugins, because the output of digital is so much higher than it would have been from it was in the analogue days???
I own the SSL plugs bundle. Its cool for fixing stuff... If you want a console sound and experience buy Softube Console One... For the price of the plugin bundle you can get something that actually sounds like the console and has a controller that is rad. It sounds more like the desk than the outdated waves bundle. The controller also works with all UA plugins as a controller
That’s false.. Squier’s, Alesis, and so forth are some of the most used in pre-production recordings. If you have no talent, or vision.. you could take the creme of the crop and still sound like 💩
What made great those SSL consoles (like every other console on earth) was that every channel was slightly different from the other. Discrete electronics behave like this. The plugin is modeled after one channel, and if you use the same plug on every track, you just get buildups. This is NOT the way it used to work Graham, and you should know it. Mr. Scheps himself also suggest to use different kind of plugs just to get separation.
The Harrison mixbus DAW software models the subtle differences from channel to channel...haven't had a chance to use it as I use Logic....but I'm curious...
Having gotten used to REAPER, I am really sorry to say: if your DAW does not have a phase button on its channels, you're not getting your money's worth. Phase is as basic as faders and panning.
0:07 You can not get Software plug ins to replicate the an SSL. You can emulate it but there is no way in hell the caps, diodes, components on a motherboard and CPU are going to exactly replicate the SSL. This video is merely a sales pitch. However, these are great plug ins. they sound amazing. Just don't think your going to have an exact copy of an SSL desk.
@@Subholik3 It may have sounded like i was shitting on these plug ins but The SSL bus compressor is one of my favorite plug ins to use during the mastering process. However any plug in today are just not there yet. they are indeed getting better, they just haven't got there yet in terms of good replication.
@@ZacharyScottBeats your right. i agree with you, But then again i'm an experienced engineer who knows better. when you hear @ 0:07 "You can use it to Turn your recording software into an SSL console". Its kind of to the point. Which is basically bullshit. It literally says it right there in the first few seconds.
hi , iv got a ssl six and only channel 1-2 have EQ , I have the ssl G channel strip in my DAW I only want to use the EQ in the software is that possible ? [if I turn the analogue switch of ] , thanks
With the board he is working with, is what we are looking at a digital representation of what is happening within an actual board that offers the actual FUNCTION of an SSL logic board or a digital readout of what is happening inside an Actual SSL mixer?
Hello. If I have in my Waves plugins more options from one type (for example: IR1 efficient Stereo/ IR1 full Stereo/ IR1 mono-Stereo), how do I know which one I should to choose? Thank you for all your advices.
I spent a good amount of time with Reason when I got back into DAW's around Reason 3. After Reason 5, I stopped and moved to Ableton. What was interesting about Reason 5 and when it was separated as Record was the SSL 9000k. After watching years worth of tutorials an engineer who was born and raised mixing on the SSL 9000k did a youtube video on how to use it in Reason and he mentions to start with the Master Bus compressor turned on. I was like ...huh? What frustrated me about the workflow is to someone who has not been to school for audio engineering it is not intuitive. My final mixes I abandoned in Reason simply because after getting everything sounding the way I wanted it to the exported audio would drop several db and didn't sound the way it was in the studio monitors especially when moved to another system. And so, I dove into the world of VSTs and Ableton. Now years later, I'm going to dive into Pro-tools with a ton of research into waves audio, uad and other things to help a mix. Ideally, I feel now I can finish my tracks but I'd rather hire someone who has been to school for this sort of thing or has a good ear and talent for it. Not everyone does. And I feel it is money well spent to send on your audio stems to a professional. I'd love to do it myself but an engineer is really best seeing their ears will be unbiased and that is just as important as the plug-ins.
This looks just what I'm looking for but I'd really appreciate if you would answer a question... i recently purchased the X32 compact by Behringer and for a smaller setup I purchased the XR18... I was so disappointed with their sound especially on vocals that I have to sell them on!!... question... what hardware do I need to use with this SSL softwares and is it similar to waves multitrack?? Will the vocals be good? This is fir a two vocal setup using backing tracks so I only need 4 channels but vocals must be tops!
Really? Graham? Just run audio through it and it already sounds better? I did a null test with the SSL E channel. It does zero, null, nothing, nada... by default. Maybe the frequency curves and compressor work to emulate SSL - but by default it does nothing.
By pass can't be used for a - b. It change the sound still. And in digital I like by pass for some. Even bank space between insert makes different timing
On this topic, are there any good plugins designed to emulate components of those awesome old Neve consoles? I've got tape-simulation, tube compressor and "exciter" plugins that work okay, but none of them seem to add any warmth. Unfortunately, I have to use VST amp-simulation almost exclusively, since none of the amps/effects processors that would give me the versatility I'm after are in my price range, and it would be nice if I could find a plugin to tame the extraneous high-end sizzle that VST amp-sims like Guitar Rig and Amplitube are known for, while adding some warmth, if that's even possible.
Gr8 video and great song. Can you do a review of the Brainworx bx_console ? I have used the waves SSL a lot in the past but since using the bx_console, I just can't get the result of bx_console by using any other channel plugin. I look forward to your review of the bx_console. Thanks.
Hey. Great video. Would you mind telling us how many ghz is the processor that you use to allow you insert this plug-in into every track without overloading your system? Thanx. *----Q----*
Hi! This is what I've been hoping for years for a live vocal.. I've just purchased the x32 compact but had I known about this!! I do a two piece vocal act using tracks from laptop... would this work for me fir this simple setup? Thank you! Great video!!
@@virgilhughes7837 ok so I have the compressor ont the mix bus and a limiter on the master. Do I burn the ssl comp and mute the limiter when I am going to send off for master or do I turn that off too
Johnny Santiago Whatever sounds better to you!!!! Dont make the mistake in life of letting another man tell you what you can figure out for yourself with a little investigating. Some people may tell you one thing, and some people may tell you another. Then what?; You're still at square one. Figure it out for yourself, then you'll be SURE of what the answer is. IJS though...
Why does everyone think there is harmonic distortion off these plugins?There isnt.Still great plugins though.But duplicate a track put a channel strip on one and flip the phase on one,silence.Basically no harmonic distortion.
I just watched another Waves video with the product manager of the 4000 plugs and he described not getting the sound right until they modeled the noise and harmonic distortion into the modeled circuit...So....I'm going to have to disagree with you. But you maybe thinking of a separate harmonic distortion model....(like perhaps the red and blue silk circuit on newer Neve hardware)....in which case you'd be correct...they did not model something like that...
Nope im on bout people saying they just throw it on the track for color.Seen it loads of times.For example just throw on say the v series eq or one of their compressors or other analog modeled plugins and theres some color.Test it by duplicating the track putting a plugin on one track and flipping the phase.you will hear only the harmonics the plugins add.there is silence when doing this with the ssl plugins.Dont get me wrong im not dissing these plugins at all.I have them and use em a lot as they are really great.Just find it odd when people say they throw em on the track for color when there isnt any.
There is harmonic distortion, you will need a sine wave test tone (e.g. 1khz ),watch your spectrum analizer if you are using a -18 db test tone,you should see two aditional harmonics,a lower one at 2khz(about -130 db) and a higher at 3khz(-112 db).You can also remove the noise floor emulation by selecting "Analog" to "off".from my tests with dirac impulses and white noise there is NO frequency response emulation ,it's completely flat,Waves NLS can simulate this behaviour).(btw,i'm not endorsed by waves)
SSL Channel from Waves is a great tool for mixing, but Graham, he don't simulate the preamp or line stage from the console, just insert the plugin in the track no improve the sound like the real console. For that, your must use the Waves NLS, in the Spike console for emulate the preamp of the console. Great video, thanks!
Thank's for your exlanation, i emulate this analog workflow in my DAW whit Acustica Audio Nebula and yours libraries from AlexB, he makes the best analog emulation using volterra kernels, a type off convolution like altiverb but whit harmonic distortion scaled in how much the signal comes in. I'am from Brazil, sorry my poor english lol.
Stop using plug-ins for a while and concentrate on instrument setup/tuning/prep, mic choices, mic placement, acoustic environment, levels and balance. And then start using plug-ins. Put some headphones on, let the musician(s) play. Take a microphone and sit next to the instrument while placing and moving the mic. Check another mic. You’ll be surprised how much you can achieve here without even touching the console or DAW. SSL channel strip does not do much more than the vanilla stock EQ and dynamics other than applying a convolution sauce. Do some null testing and be surprised. Waves is a master in marketing and ‘inventing’ new user interfaces, hire famous producers around the same old algorithms and impulse responses.
Ultimately if you are creating music for the youth market, you dont need an SSL (either real or virtual), super expensive monitors etc as most of the listeners will be playing your music out of crappy Apple ear plugs or worse out of the speaker on their phone from crappy MP3 files that have been compressed to buggery. Music has come full circle from the days when teens would play singles on cheap record players with built in tinny speakers to now where most dont even own a decent stereo and play everything on their phone or laptop. Now if you are mixing music for old gits (like me) or for film soundtracks, then thats another story. But visit most large studios now and most use their SSL/Neve desks as expensive coffee tables as most of their action goes via a ProTools rig. Unless you are regularly recording 60 piece orchestras or Metal drummers with their Double Kick 20 piece kits, you really only need about 8 channels of I/O at any one time.
Hey guys Graham here from the recording revolution.
Hahaha
Juggin Music right 😁
Juggin Music wait, what company is he from again?
I think you mean "Hey friends, Graham here from the recording revolution dot caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam"
Hey mixers, GAH-RAM here...
Would have been a great idea if waves had released a dedicated control surface that looked like the channel strip.
Sick idea
softube console 1?
Yes! I thought the same as well.
your right they should release a dcs!!
canvoodoo the best reflection on RUclips !!
Thanks man I thought about it too and by the way .. the guys from cakewalk copy them and do the same for their flagship DAW (Sonar) fuckin' please .. hhhhh
Waves must have a SSL 4000 Collection special or something because this is the 3rd video I see in my subscription feed about the SSL plugins from various channels.
One of the most generous teachers I've followed. Thanks G.C
Its also a good idea to use the Waves NLS on the last insert of your channel signal chains in the mix. Obviously the NLS would be set to the SSL configuration... And have the NLS stereo buss on the master fader for the true SSL experience
great plugin. those interested might want to try the Harrison Mixbus 32C console. It was designed from the ground up by Harrison Consoles to simulate their analogue hardware right down to the electrical circuit. But instead of doing that per-track, the entire console is emulated. Correct me if I am wrong. I love using it. The workflow is immediate and fast. No need to display a plugin window floating over your daw. I think propellerhead does a similar thing?
Just for kicks I checked an SSL E 4000 G+ console price on ebay: €59000. And Waves' plug collection costs $299 at their site right now. So it's not the same sound as the console, but... with a bit of perspective, the plugs are useful and practical, especially if you're mixing on the go. Nice presentation.
Rumor has it, if you count how many times he blinks, your daw turns into the console over night.
Jk, love Graham. Learned a lot from his videos
Love it!
I was kind of struggeling with having to much fancy plugins and WOW!-making machines in my DAW, when I tried this it was like going back to school and it was really exciting! Fixed my mix! Thank you Graham!
Correct
Ok this is great but, you have to add in NLS for the full effect of the console!
Underrated comment right here😤
Great idea. They tried the "CLA mixhub", but it's not a summing plugin like NLS.
@@Purpleinvasion1212 completely underrated
@@iamsogimura777 it should be illegal to share this knowledge imo. It’s literally worth 2M
I am using SSL demo at the moment and it definitely is huuuuge timesaver. Great stuff from Waves. Guys check out NLS too.
this is the way i do it in cubase with the G channel. I have the plugin mapped out to the tascam us2400 and its all you need! It has everything you need. EQ, HP/LP, gate, comp,
Love the plugin. Not too big a fan of that snare sound. Too small and thin. But thats just my personal preference 😇
*WOW!! Super Video!* Amazing! I have the Wave SSL plugins and i like it. This Sound is very good. Thank you so much for this great Video. Very best regards from Anni from Germany 💕 💞 💓 💗 💖
"A paycheck's a paycheck, right? Ya can't hate that.”
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Yeaasss! Waves Audio please do more videos with this guy, I'd buy anything he tells me to. He's an OG.
is your friend or family? ;-)
Seb. Probably a subscriber to Graham's RUclips channel. He's been doing this a long time.
Yep! that's true :)
This guy knows what's he's doing and talking about!
I'm going to try this and do a video. Thank you, Graham. You rock. 👌🏾
I'm sure I read somewhere that the plugins add an analogue interpolation so that 2 channels with the same audio, same SSL plug in with the same settings will sound different to mimic the different in the analogue path. I also find that when wearing a button down collar, I think it sounds better when those buttons are engaged but that's just personal opinion.
What would be great is if Waves had a "vertical" view mode on the SSL channel strip to look more like the console strip, the scheps 73 has a + - fader mode?!
Yeah that would be amazing!
How do you insert the SSL channel strip on all your tracks at once? (3:41) I've tried selecting all tracks, but it only puts the plugin on the first track. What's the modifier key? Thanks!
Con alt creo busca atajos del teclado de pro tools
Graham recently made a podcast making a case against third party plugins, and here he is marketing third party plugins.
Yeah, I've listened to it. Joe Gilder seems to be still commited to the stock plugins philosophy.
I have this and the NLS but I use both on each track, since the SSL plugin doesn't have unique channels. Wish the SSL channel strip had a bus to do NLS from within and unique channel presence.
I wish the NLS-channels would be narrower visually and there was some kind of "tray" I could throw them in to move them around together. - That last thing would probably depend on the DAW, and I suppose Reaper could do that... But anyway. They're so chunky with lots of dead space. - I love using them to emulate a console, but it's elaborate and tedious to have to switch between them while trying to do levels and such.
I know you can do part on the Buss, but still, I don't like when plug-ins use a lot of visual real-estate.
Hi, what about the argument that you need to use K Metering (minus 14dB or minus 20db) to mix through modelled plugins, because the output of digital is so much higher than it would have been from it was in the analogue days???
I really like that track and I purchased the Waves plugins to have this capability...
I own the SSL plugs bundle. Its cool for fixing stuff... If you want a console sound and experience buy Softube Console One... For the price of the plugin bundle you can get something that actually sounds like the console and has a controller that is rad. It sounds more like the desk than the outdated waves bundle. The controller also works with all UA plugins as a controller
Remember guys, the recording are made with HQ instruments, mics, amps, processors, eqs, etc...
That’s false.. Squier’s, Alesis, and so forth are some of the most used in pre-production recordings.
If you have no talent, or vision.. you could take the creme of the crop and still sound like 💩
Thank.You. For. This. Video. It's all about time-saving and the E channel is amazing!! Turning my daw into a console
What made great those SSL consoles (like every other console on earth) was that every channel was slightly different from the other. Discrete electronics behave like this. The plugin is modeled after one channel, and if you use the same plug on every track, you just get buildups. This is NOT the way it used to work Graham, and you should know it. Mr. Scheps himself also suggest to use different kind of plugs just to get separation.
Alberto Dati agreed. They have the NLS that does just that, which I just picked up. You have any thoughts on that one?
3 different flavours there, more variations. But as always, if you aim for separation, use different plugs, different brands, go hybrid, ecc. ecc.
What kind of 'separation' are you talking about?
The Harrison mixbus DAW software models the subtle differences from channel to channel...haven't had a chance to use it as I use Logic....but I'm curious...
Waves tries to solve this problem with their NLS (Spike setting) plug ins, but still fall short...
Graham, always that brutal video editing..
Having gotten used to REAPER, I am really sorry to say: if your DAW does not have a phase button on its channels, you're not getting your money's worth. Phase is as basic as faders and panning.
But pro tools is high end studio standard. So?
Awesome job as always Graham!!!
Good work Graham!
10 minutes in, I was 100% sure, it was Graham's channel lmao
0:07 You can not get Software plug ins to replicate the an SSL. You can emulate it but there is no way in hell the caps, diodes, components on a motherboard and CPU are going to exactly replicate the SSL. This video is merely a sales pitch. However, these are great plug ins. they sound amazing. Just don't think your going to have an exact copy of an SSL desk.
ageed !
@@Subholik3 It may have sounded like i was shitting on these plug ins but The SSL bus compressor is one of my favorite plug ins to use during the mastering process. However any plug in today are just not there yet. they are indeed getting better, they just haven't got there yet in terms of good replication.
completely valid points, but I dont think anyone genuinely believed that doing this would LITERALLY turn there pc into an actual $100,000 console lol
@@ZacharyScottBeats your right. i agree with you, But then again i'm an experienced engineer who knows better. when you hear @ 0:07 "You can use it to Turn your recording software into an SSL console". Its kind of to the point. Which is basically bullshit. It literally says it right there in the first few seconds.
Has anyone in this thread ever mixed on a ssl console?
hi , iv got a ssl six and only channel 1-2 have EQ , I have the ssl G channel strip in my DAW I only want to use the EQ in the software is that possible ? [if I turn the analogue switch of ] , thanks
how did you put the plugin into every track at the same time? keyboard shortcuts?
AARON KAYE what daw you using? Logic you can highlight all channels on the mixer to add a plugin on all
Do you also put the SSL channel strips on Aux tracks as well? And would it work on the Master Bus too?
With the board he is working with, is what we are looking at a digital representation of what is happening within an actual board that offers the actual FUNCTION of an SSL logic board or a digital readout of what is happening inside an Actual SSL mixer?
Never mind. It’s all digitized version of an actual SSL board.
What about NLS ? you don't use with SSL Channel strip ?
Yeah 😂😂
Hello. If I have in my Waves plugins more options from one type (for example: IR1 efficient Stereo/ IR1 full Stereo/ IR1 mono-Stereo), how do I know which one I should to choose?
Thank you for all your advices.
I spent a good amount of time with Reason when I got back into DAW's around Reason 3. After Reason 5, I stopped and moved to Ableton. What was interesting about Reason 5 and when it was separated as Record was the SSL 9000k. After watching years worth of tutorials an engineer who was born and raised mixing on the SSL 9000k did a youtube video on how to use it in Reason and he mentions to start with the Master Bus compressor turned on. I was like ...huh? What frustrated me about the workflow is to someone who has not been to school for audio engineering it is not intuitive. My final mixes I abandoned in Reason simply because after getting everything sounding the way I wanted it to the exported audio would drop several db and didn't sound the way it was in the studio monitors especially when moved to another system. And so, I dove into the world of VSTs and Ableton. Now years later, I'm going to dive into Pro-tools with a ton of research into waves audio, uad and other things to help a mix. Ideally, I feel now I can finish my tracks but I'd rather hire someone who has been to school for this sort of thing or has a good ear and talent for it. Not everyone does. And I feel it is money well spent to send on your audio stems to a professional. I'd love to do it myself but an engineer is really best seeing their ears will be unbiased and that is just as important as the plug-ins.
*UnAbleton
I have a waves bundle can't transport it out of my old computer to my new one ??????
This looks just what I'm looking for but I'd really appreciate if you would answer a question... i recently purchased the X32 compact by Behringer and for a smaller setup I purchased the XR18... I was so disappointed with their sound especially on vocals that I have to sell them on!!... question... what hardware do I need to use with this SSL softwares and is it similar to waves multitrack?? Will the vocals be good? This is fir a two vocal setup using backing tracks so I only need 4 channels but vocals must be tops!
can you pls compare G & E channel ? thanks
Looks like the Console, but side by side the Console has more of EVERYTHING! Depth, Stereo Width, and the of course the sound!
What's the difference between the mix buss and master fader? Why not just use your master fader?
How you gonna have all that table, panels, racks, and be using KRKs? #Focals
I would like to hear of you add more saturation with gain in and Balance with output as it sounds like...
Would you prefer doing that vs the softube saturation knob.
Really? Graham? Just run audio through it and it already sounds better? I did a null test with the SSL E channel. It does zero, null, nothing, nada... by default. Maybe the frequency curves and compressor work to emulate SSL - but by default it does nothing.
What is the difference between nls non-linear summer vs ssl e channel?
How many albums has Graham produced using an SSL console?
So I guess, if you also add the NLS channel and bus plugins to work together with this it would totally kick ass right?
Does it have a side chaining feature?
Hey Graham! Thanks for the great tips. I would love to try using this method as a starting point in my mixes.
By pass can't be used for a - b. It change the sound still. And in digital I like by pass for some. Even bank space between insert makes different timing
Great job man!
On this topic, are there any good plugins designed to emulate components of those awesome old Neve consoles? I've got tape-simulation, tube compressor and "exciter" plugins that work okay, but none of them seem to add any warmth. Unfortunately, I have to use VST amp-simulation almost exclusively, since none of the amps/effects processors that would give me the versatility I'm after are in my price range, and it would be nice if I could find a plugin to tame the extraneous high-end sizzle that VST amp-sims like Guitar Rig and Amplitube are known for, while adding some warmth, if that's even possible.
It seems SSL plugins (E and G) doing nothing if you put them on your tracks.. I've just made a null test. No emulations.
High! I notice you are using a small drawing pad..what are you using?
Yes It sounds great but why the gray zone in the window plugin? Its a waste of space in Pro Tools!
it's not the plugin.it's the DAW that cause the gray space on the plugins.people think it's the plugins.reaper dose that to.not sonar,reason.peace.
Or you can use channel strip plugins designed by SSL
The SSL bundle is nothing less than Waves’ crowning achievement. For the money, the single best plug-in investment I’ve ever made.
Is the channel strip in stereo across all the tracks?
Gr8 video and great song.
Can you do a review of the Brainworx bx_console ? I have used the waves SSL a lot in the past but since using the bx_console, I just can't get the result of bx_console by using any other channel plugin.
I look forward to your review of the bx_console.
Thanks.
Hey Graham....what desk are you using in this video? thanks
I get hiss noise when I use many SSL plugin.. help pls
Please contact our technical support team regarding this: www.waves.com/contact-us
thank you
Great info here! 💯
Thanks, your the best. Keep up the good work.
Waves SSL v Reason SSL 4000 emulation? Anyone tried both? I like the 'glue feel' of the reason ssl but I always wonder about waves...
Hi there, feel free to try out the Demo before you purchase and let us know what you think! www.waves.com/demo
no attack knob on the compressor section?
Just a fast/slow attack switch
Thanks Graham, i just bought it
😃👍
Hey. Great video. Would you mind telling us how many ghz is the processor that you use to allow you insert this plug-in into every track without overloading your system? Thanx. *----Q----*
This Waves plugin was released in 2006. The CPU requirements for it are very low.
Hi! This is what I've been hoping for years for a live vocal.. I've just purchased the x32 compact but had I known about this!! I do a two piece vocal act using tracks from laptop... would this work for me fir this simple setup? Thank you! Great video!!
You can use Waves plugins with your x32. check this out: www.waves.com/live-sound/behringer
What keyboard with touchbar have you got your hands on there Graham.
Great videos. If I'm using the SSL channel strip Plugin, do I need the Slate VCC Channel (Brit 4K E or G) as well?
So if you edit them as a whole on the bus, do you also edit individually?
Yes, the idea is to emulate a console. If you had a console, you would still manage your individual tracks via eq/dynamics as well as the bus.
@@virgilhughes7837 ok so I have the compressor ont the mix bus and a limiter on the master. Do I burn the ssl comp and mute the limiter when I am going to send off for master or do I turn that off too
If I point at a knob with my mouse, it would be great to have a physical knob at my left hand that can I can turn....is there such a thing?
Jan Martin Ulvåg SSL has desktop mixers you can buy.
Why can't I hear any differences? I think I have to change my monitor speakers.
I'm totally going to do this. is why I haven't thought of it!
Thanks! Great song, mate! :)
Which sounds better waves ssl plugins or soft tube console 1 Mk2?
Waves SSL... IMO
Johnny Santiago console 1 10000%
SSL is way better sounding.
Johnny Santiago Whatever sounds better to you!!!! Dont make the mistake in life of letting another man tell you what you can figure out for yourself with a little investigating. Some people may tell you one thing, and some people may tell you another. Then what?; You're still at square one. Figure it out for yourself, then you'll be SURE of what the answer is. IJS though...
I go with duende comparing to waves it is more warm sounding.
Great vid, thanks for the tips.
where are your studio monitors?
Could you please talk about real outboard gear such as Warm Audio...Klark Teknik...Stam audio
Universal Audio....not plug-ins please. Thank you.
Reason has all those features built in already!!
Why does everyone think there is harmonic distortion off these plugins?There isnt.Still great plugins though.But duplicate a track put a channel strip on one and flip the phase on one,silence.Basically no harmonic distortion.
I just watched another Waves video with the product manager of the 4000 plugs and he described not getting the sound right until they modeled the noise and harmonic distortion into the modeled circuit...So....I'm going to have to disagree with you.
But you maybe thinking of a separate harmonic distortion model....(like perhaps the red and blue silk circuit on newer Neve hardware)....in which case you'd be correct...they did not model something like that...
Nope im on bout people saying they just throw it on the track for color.Seen it loads of times.For example just throw on say the v series eq or one of their compressors or other analog modeled plugins and theres some color.Test it by duplicating the track putting a plugin on one track and flipping the phase.you will hear only the harmonics the plugins add.there is silence when doing this with the ssl plugins.Dont get me wrong im not dissing these plugins at all.I have them and use em a lot as they are really great.Just find it odd when people say they throw em on the track for color when there isnt any.
There is harmonic distortion, you will need a sine wave test tone (e.g. 1khz ),watch your spectrum analizer if you are using a -18 db test tone,you should see two aditional harmonics,a lower one at 2khz(about -130 db) and a higher at 3khz(-112 db).You can also remove the noise floor emulation by selecting "Analog" to "off".from my tests with dirac impulses and white noise there is NO frequency response emulation ,it's completely flat,Waves NLS can simulate this behaviour).(btw,i'm not endorsed by waves)
What's the song and who wrote it ?
I love graham he is such an amazing teacher, I learned sooo much from him!
These plug-ins mainly for live instruments?
It works for any type of audio.
SSL Channel from Waves is a great tool for mixing, but Graham, he don't simulate the preamp or line stage from the console, just insert the plugin in the track no improve the sound like the real console. For that, your must use the Waves NLS, in the Spike console for emulate the preamp of the console. Great video, thanks!
Thank's for your exlanation, i emulate this analog workflow in my DAW whit Acustica Audio Nebula and yours libraries from AlexB, he makes the best analog emulation using volterra kernels, a type off convolution like altiverb but whit harmonic distortion scaled in how much the signal comes in. I'am from Brazil, sorry my poor english lol.
What about waves nls?
I´ve added a Waves NLS, with SPIKE set.
Stop using plug-ins for a while and concentrate on instrument setup/tuning/prep, mic choices, mic placement, acoustic environment, levels and balance. And then start using plug-ins.
Put some headphones on, let the musician(s) play. Take a microphone and sit next to the instrument while placing and moving the mic.
Check another mic.
You’ll be surprised how much you can achieve here without even touching the console or DAW.
SSL channel strip does not do much more than the vanilla stock EQ and dynamics other than applying a convolution sauce.
Do some null testing and be surprised.
Waves is a master in marketing and ‘inventing’ new user interfaces, hire famous producers around the same old algorithms and impulse responses.
FIRE.... GREAT TUTORIAL
Sounds really good. Who is the band and what's the song - I'd love to buy it.
That U87 box tops the shelf though. XD
That's not a U87 it's a TLM103
102
Why did he put it on each individual track instead of just creating a bus and send it to 1 SSL channel what’s the difference???
Ultimately if you are creating music for the youth market, you dont need an SSL (either real or virtual), super expensive monitors etc as most of the listeners will be playing your music out of crappy Apple ear plugs or worse out of the speaker on their phone from crappy MP3 files that have been compressed to buggery.
Music has come full circle from the days when teens would play singles on cheap record players with built in tinny speakers to now where most dont even own a decent stereo and play everything on their phone or laptop.
Now if you are mixing music for old gits (like me) or for film soundtracks, then thats another story.
But visit most large studios now and most use their SSL/Neve desks as expensive coffee tables as most of their action goes via a ProTools rig. Unless you are regularly recording 60 piece orchestras or Metal drummers with their Double Kick 20 piece kits, you really only need about 8 channels of I/O at any one time.
Amazing mixing
Is the song available for download? I like it.