BIG Changes! Is The New 2024 VW ID.4 The Best New EV SUV?

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  • @roguedogx
    @roguedogx 5 месяцев назад +39

    Btw - for those of you wondering "what's a stator?"
    It's the collection of electrical wires that produce an electro-magnetic field that is attached to the housing (the outside) of the electric motor.
    The rotor "pushes" off the field made by the stator to make torque and power.
    I know it's only a semi common term, so I thought I would drop an explanation.

    • @nicholassmith7048
      @nicholassmith7048 5 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you for filling in the communication gap.

    • @roguedogx
      @roguedogx 5 месяцев назад

      @@nicholassmith7048 Happy to help!

    • @colingoldthorpe5918
      @colingoldthorpe5918 5 месяцев назад +2

      Most motorcycle riders understand but Car drivers always ask me where is your alternator on a motorcycle !!!

  • @Nelsonrgpereira
    @Nelsonrgpereira 5 месяцев назад +31

    About the windows control there's a Third option. Press Rear until it starts to blink and one button operates the 4 windows at the same time.

  • @ultratodd
    @ultratodd 5 месяцев назад +12

    A frunk is especially nice to have for someone like myself. I use it to store muddy boots and shoes. I also put my day pack in there. I volunteer in a local park and do weeding, pruning, digging and planting. Some of my hand tools go in the frunk.
    Why not in the back? That's the part of the car I want to keep clean. My Mach E has a drain so I can just rinse the dirt out of the frunk with a garden hose. All that dirt is someplace other than the passenger compartment.
    One other useful part of a frunk, it's hard for a thief to access any valuables in there. No windows. It has a hood latch. They might go to the trouble of forcing it open only to find dirty boots or shoes.
    The rear is for luggage, groceries, dogs and or dog food. It still needs cleaning but no more than the rest of the passenger compartment.

  • @GeeDeeBird
    @GeeDeeBird 2 месяца назад +5

    We drove this car in the Pro plus configuration immediately after driving the Blazer RT EV. The VW handled better, accelerated better and rode better. The Blazer had a little more leg room and was a bit wider. With dealer incentives, the two cars were very similar price. The Blazer was about $850 more. We're getting the ID4.

    • @BilAppleton
      @BilAppleton 2 месяца назад

      That’s smart that you are getting the ID 4 over the blazer…VW put a lot into technology and build quality than the other manfacturers

  • @jimsomerville3924
    @jimsomerville3924 5 месяцев назад +22

    Have a '21 ID.4 Pro RWD, and it's been good. No frunk is nice as the hood is quite short on ID.4 and leads to a shorter vehicle and more cargo capacity in rear. The increased range and power sound really nice. Heat pump for the U.S. cars would be nice too.

    • @unrulyevil
      @unrulyevil 5 месяцев назад +1

      Model y is short as well, but I would never say, no frunk is good, why is it good? Because you have less storage? So less storage is good?

    • @jimsomerville3924
      @jimsomerville3924 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@unrulyevil Then you don't need to say it. I explained why I prefer it in my original comment. Model Y is 7 inches longer and 3 inches wider, but has the same cargo capacity behind 2nd row. I prefer a shorter vehicle. Or if one prefers more storage, then every inch in length in rear leads to a lot more storage than an inch longer hood with space for a frunk.

  • @wesleykins
    @wesleykins 5 месяцев назад +10

    Loved the video guys. Here are some things I noticed that are much different, and MUCH BETTER, than '21 - '23:
    - dedicated physical button for hazard lights between front vents, instead of a capacitive button that blends in with "mode", "clima", etc.
    - dedicated heated steering wheel button on steering wheel; it's really difficult to turn on the heated steering in my '23
    - volume slider moved to left of steering wheel, and tuner/track advance moved to horizontal. HALLELUJAH! Now pressing "right" will always advance in a list and "left" will always go back, instead of constant guessing because it does a different thing on the radio tuner screen than on the favorites screen and a different one on Spotify on Android Auto, and I can NEVER remember which is which.
    - wipers / washer functions moved to left-hand signal stalk. I don't like that change, but probably not a deal-breaker. I thought the shifter on the "binnacle" was just fine.
    - basic climate and seat heat/ventilation in a fixed position along the bottom of the screen is a HUGE UX improvement. My Mach-e does it this way after an OTA update, and it made a great usability difference.
    - speaking of which, VENTILATED SEATS is a big deal for those of us with the XY genotype that don't like sticking to our seats, and it's something that I sorely miss in my '23
    - at 21:39, exactly when you said the "Hyundai Ioniq 5" a blue one drives by on your left!

    • @robhamilton4736
      @robhamilton4736 4 месяца назад

      I can verify the Volkswagen is pure trash. Not even 1,800 miles on mine and it's been in the shop 4 times. They won't do the repair work and are working their way out of it as hard as possible

    • @wesleykins
      @wesleykins 4 месяца назад

      @@robhamilton4736 head to the VWIDtalk forums and post about your experience. There are some knowledgeable people there that can probably help you get this taken seriously.

  • @pdaddysays
    @pdaddysays 5 месяцев назад +17

    We purchased the 2023 AWD Pro S+ in the summer. It’s great.

    • @jayson1270
      @jayson1270 5 месяцев назад

      Just picked up the 23 AWD Pro S on a lease last week. Really enjoy it, but definitely look forward to the 2027 updates.

    • @davidgarrs9978
      @davidgarrs9978 4 месяца назад +2

      @@jayson1270 13:26 I did too. Saved 17k, totally worth the trade off.

  • @katiecannon8186
    @katiecannon8186 5 месяцев назад +4

    I like the window controls. I don’t mind most stuff in the screen. At least VW has stalks & has that small behind the steering wheel screen.
    I think they’ve done a fantastic job.
    Now we need the ID3

  • @frankcoffey
    @frankcoffey 5 месяцев назад +4

    I use the frunk on my Tesla all the time, it helps keep the smell of carry out food out of the car. However, it's not easy because the hood is not powered and I always have my hands full when using it. Note to carmakers, if you are going to include a frunk make the hood powered.

  • @BremboT
    @BremboT 5 месяцев назад +13

    One thing about the Chevy Bolt, it has spoiled me in terms of driving dynamics. One pedal driving with on demand paddle regen will forever be the highest standard. Wish all new EV had the same setup, especially trucks for towing. Hope the Boltium keeps the same configuration.

    • @spazmorat
      @spazmorat 5 месяцев назад +4

      I have a Bolt and an ID.4, and although I like the VW better, there are some things about the Bolt that would be nice to have on the VW. The one-pedal mode on the Bolt is excellent. I like having the paddle regen, but I wish it was more like an accelerator pedal to give it a variable response. The VW could definitely use a regen paddle and an actual one-pedal mode.

    • @JonathanRootD
      @JonathanRootD 5 месяцев назад +2

      EV9 has the same setup

    • @BremboT
      @BremboT 5 месяцев назад

      @@JonathanRootD Did not know that. I'll see if I can book a test drive.

    • @jonpetter8921
      @jonpetter8921 4 месяца назад +1

      @@BremboT ID 4 beat the Chevy in some important points: general build quality, smooth ride, charging power, cabin size, some "luxury" features, more complet infotainment.

  • @Lisbonese
    @Lisbonese 5 месяцев назад +5

    I love this SUV except the Haptic Touch buttons and not having driver rear window switches.

  • @ScotMatheson
    @ScotMatheson 5 месяцев назад +3

    Test drove a new 2024 AWD. The info entertainment screen is snappy and the sound system upgrade Hk is a good improvement over previous years. Its also a very quite vehicle and all the power I would ever need.
    Only thing I would like changed is the piano black interior handles and just a little less hard plastic.

  • @IamCorrosive
    @IamCorrosive 5 месяцев назад +9

    Wish yall could have tested the park assist feature.

  • @peiguy1982
    @peiguy1982 5 месяцев назад +3

    Rear drums make sense in an EV. Brakes seize up constantly with a rotor setup in the winter, where they spread salt I mean.

    • @wesleykins
      @wesleykins 5 месяцев назад +1

      Also supposedly the drum brakes don't rust as easily, and the rears aren't used nearly as much since those are the wheels that do most of the regen.

  • @JackRussell021
    @JackRussell021 5 месяцев назад +4

    Route planning isn't new with this release. It might not have worked well in the initial release, but it was there from day one. It got a lot better with the software update.

  • @martman123456
    @martman123456 5 месяцев назад +1

    As an owner of a GV60 with a Frubby, it is very useful to hold things you only use occassionally. I store a plug-in hand vacuum in there. I don't need a frubby or frunk, but efficient packaging is appealing for an EV, which is a piece of tech, not just a car.

  • @BigVeziaBabie
    @BigVeziaBabie 4 месяца назад +3

    got a 2024 3 days ago and its crazy in sport mode it feels like a bigger golf r makes me giddy everytime i floor it

  • @00_UU
    @00_UU 5 месяцев назад +14

    2023 ID.4 selling with 10-15k discounts right now.

    • @davidgarrs9978
      @davidgarrs9978 4 месяца назад +2

      Saved 17k on a pro s awd. This week.The 2024 updates are nice, but not 17k nice. Very happy with the deal.

    • @00_UU
      @00_UU 4 месяца назад

      @@davidgarrs9978 congrats! What state are you in?

  • @bostondan77
    @bostondan77 5 месяцев назад +7

    So glad EA/VW didn't do free charging with this car like all their previous models. Tired of people not charging at home but tying up the fast chargers because it's a free suck; between them and the uber/lyft drivers (also leasing EVs for the free suck) makes it hard to road trip especially given the limited infrastructure. Incentivizing people to charge at a fast charger over charging at home tells me Electrify America wants the whole system to fail.

    • @hacob2004
      @hacob2004 5 месяцев назад

      Tesla just offered me 5,000 free supercharger miles if I would trade in my vehicle. It's not just EA.

    • @thejake8099
      @thejake8099 5 месяцев назад +1

      Not all EV drivers/owners have a house to charge them. FYI. 🤔

    • @bostondan77
      @bostondan77 5 месяцев назад

      @@thejake8099IMO, those people shouldn’t get EVs; infrastructure is not ready for them. If I have a family of 5, I’m not going to get a 2 seater even if I want one because it’s not the right fit for me at this point in my life.

    • @thejake8099
      @thejake8099 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@bostondan77 How about you stick to home charging and let everyone else use the Superchargers, deal with charging like everyone else, just wait or better yet, rent an ICEV for road tripping.

    • @hacob2004
      @hacob2004 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@bostondan77 If I drive like 200 miles a week then it seems like a perfectly fine fit to hit up a public charger once a week. By your definition you shouldn't be using them unless you're legitimately road tripping which would leave them empty most of the time.

  • @lifeisgood12341
    @lifeisgood12341 3 месяца назад +1

    @6:58 there is actually a mechanic latch there, if everything is working properly it's just the button but if the car dies you can pull hard on the handle and it will pop out and manually open the door. A good failsafe.

  • @kevinn1158
    @kevinn1158 5 месяцев назад +37

    The previous 3 yrs should be ignored. They were incomplete at best. Software was awful, and it was underpowered. Now that they've resolved a lot of the issues, they have to drop the price imo. Model Y has been massively dropping in price while the ID4 price has been increasing. Wake up VW.

    • @maesc2001
      @maesc2001 5 месяцев назад +6

      They just did - I got a 12K discount on mine 😊

    • @kevinn1158
      @kevinn1158 5 месяцев назад

      @@maesc2001 bravo. Congrats

    • @unrulyevil
      @unrulyevil 5 месяцев назад +2

      lol listen to yourself, this car is shit for years, and it costs more than Tesla, quickly go buy it??? What???

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@maesc2001I got 20% off MSRP on my 23 awd s plus (w 3.5). 1200 miles in and I think it's a bargain.👍

    • @maesc2001
      @maesc2001 5 месяцев назад +10

      @@unrulyevil I just don’t like Mr know it all Musk; is that okay for an answer?

  • @radanovics
    @radanovics 4 месяца назад +6

    A used 2023 with 8k miles is going for $27k, the depreciation is crazy. Can't justify the new car price.

    • @Bicloptic
      @Bicloptic 3 месяца назад

      @radanovics I hear nothing but problems with the early version. Is the 2023 fixed?

    • @saaytin
      @saaytin 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Bicloptic
      The '23 still has an annoyingly weird infotainment but it's not as slow and Android Auto/car play work great. Everything else is great.

  • @hwirtwirt4500
    @hwirtwirt4500 5 месяцев назад +6

    Fit and finish looks excellent.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 5 месяцев назад +4

      That's why people buy German cars. Their solidity is second to none.

  • @kennybunker2081
    @kennybunker2081 5 месяцев назад +6

    Does the ID.4 still have its previous very tight turning radius?

    • @wesleykins
      @wesleykins 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, the RWD does. It's really great, better than my A4 Golf.

    • @KenLiew
      @KenLiew 4 месяца назад +1

      Yes it still does, just test drove one

  • @saaytin
    @saaytin 3 месяца назад +1

    LA absolutely sucks at charging availability. Way more EVs than chargers available. I always have to wait until I'm out of the city to get a charging spot

  • @finnibat
    @finnibat 3 месяца назад +1

    Got a completely new, 2024 model as a rental for last weekend.
    What a great car! Really feels very nice and premium to drive, and the two adults sitting in the back for the roadtrip also had a good time: comfortable and roomy.
    Now looking into getting one for myself!

  • @godofdun
    @godofdun 5 месяцев назад +3

    Good updates! Price gets up there, but great lease rates and if you're looking for an ev brand new you should probably be leasing anyway.

  • @gilly3531
    @gilly3531 5 месяцев назад +10

    Love the front trunk in my Rivian....groceries, dirty gear, dog stuff, etc.
    Dont see how people dont appreciate one.

    • @kenmcclow8963
      @kenmcclow8963 5 месяцев назад +5

      Companies that aren’t good at packaging say they don’t need to include a frunk. My Tesla had both a useful frunk and a deeper rear under trunk than my ID.4 and also more drive motors.
      While I don’t use the frunk as often, I like to keep valuable things in there, since thieves couldn’t just break a window and take them. On trips it’s nice to split things between front and rear, so you don’t have things buried.
      I do like my 2023 ID.4 and when I got it there was a large price difference between it and Model Y which made it more attractive, but mostly I wanted the more squared off rear end for carrying my bulky toys

    • @ShippyJack
      @ShippyJack 5 месяцев назад +4

      Tommy loves to make fun of the Ioniq 5's "Frubby" but I keep my Granny charger and V2L adapter in there so I don't have to dig it out from underneath a bunch of gear in the trunk.
      They really are useful!

    • @jaymac4448
      @jaymac4448 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@ShippyJack I do the same in my ev6 awd. In addition to my v2l I keep an interior cleaner, vacuum and cloths in there.

    • @gregp.7148
      @gregp.7148 5 месяцев назад +1

      I put the grilled chicken in the tiny frunk of my ‘19 BMW i3. Great little space to keep that gorgeous smell out of the cabin! 🤣

    • @jonpetter8921
      @jonpetter8921 4 месяца назад +1

      @@kenmcclow8963 No there is no "aren t good at". It s about priority. VW sacrifice front truck for practicality: short turning radius, roomy cockpit, great visibility.

  • @Chris-bg8mk
    @Chris-bg8mk 5 месяцев назад +1

    I had a reservation for one back when they were new. I canceled when I found out all the issues the first revision cars had. It’s nice they fixed some of them but it seems like too little too late. VERY competitive segment. I want to like this car, and I’m a VW fan from way back but it still leaves me saying meh. 😑

  • @karmendimas5274
    @karmendimas5274 5 месяцев назад +4

    How many decades is Volkswagen going to continue to use that piano black finish it is so dated

  • @craig8638
    @craig8638 5 месяцев назад +2

    Before lightning has the king of frunks. It’s very useful and I keep stuff in it at all times.

  • @nlken7175
    @nlken7175 5 месяцев назад +4

    Price as to be lower if company's wants EV's to sell. I can buy a 30K Corolla as a commuter or 60K ID4. Easy Corolla.

    • @Frankrizzo619
      @Frankrizzo619 5 месяцев назад

      Got an ad from the local dealership on sale for 54k for 23s went on CarGurus 23 models with under 10k miles for 22k pretty nuts

  • @jbmcdoogle
    @jbmcdoogle 5 месяцев назад +2

    Besides the design thing on the back the US model, for whatever reason, will have blinking brake lights instead of amber indicators

    • @vaddimka
      @vaddimka 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah, I don't really understand it on European car brands in the US. Obviously you have the part already, why don't you just let it be yellow? It's more visible and more safe.

  • @DS-mz7dy
    @DS-mz7dy 5 месяцев назад +5

    Nice improvements, however, still costs too much!

    • @krane15
      @krane15 5 месяцев назад

      Compared to what?

  • @ltkwok
    @ltkwok 5 месяцев назад +2

    How about some interesting colors? Don’t need another grey black or white car.

    • @MarinusVesseur
      @MarinusVesseur 2 месяца назад

      Biggest obstacle for me at the moment. What happened to cars with colour?

    • @vulpixelful
      @vulpixelful 2 месяца назад

      This comes in red and blue as well, but you're right, you need a wrap if you want more interesting colors

  • @DirtSweatGears
    @DirtSweatGears 5 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting, mine is a 2023 but I think it has at least some of the performance features you mentioned that were new to 2024. I'm pretty sure mine was made really late into the 2023 production run, and it was made in the USA, so it's possible. Your interior and interface are definitely different though. I'll have to look into it before I make my video.

  • @TheAndrwwJohnson
    @TheAndrwwJohnson 5 месяцев назад +1

    Guys, was this a paid advertisement? Lusting after light up emblems, not criticizing the 3EQ sound system, not discussing difference in range with wheel sizes, not discussing the storage with the hatch not being utilized a a hatch, no 3rd row option, charging network availability and charging curve?
    Where is the real info?

  • @adv.013
    @adv.013 5 месяцев назад +1

    Does it still have the thing where when you lift your butt off the seat for any reason it will shut off even when in motion?

    • @wesleykins
      @wesleykins 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, but not if you keep your seat belt buckled.

  • @rypsta
    @rypsta 5 месяцев назад +2

    I wish they would bring the ID.3 to the states

  • @benderbalsam7066
    @benderbalsam7066 5 месяцев назад +15

    Without one pedal driving, the ID4 is a hard pass.

    • @CoolTies
      @CoolTies 5 месяцев назад +7

      One pedal driving is just plain dangerous on winter roads. I've had a car completely lose traction because one pedal braked too aggressively.

    • @mikefarrington7141
      @mikefarrington7141 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@CoolTies That is why no car defaults to it being active on start up; it always has to be driver-initiated. You shouldn't use OPD on a free-flowing highway (for the sake of efficiency) nor should you use it in overly-slippery conditions for the reason you stated. For in-city driving and stop-and-go highway traffic jams, OPD makes driving so much more enjoyable.

    • @kalvinconnor2168
      @kalvinconnor2168 5 месяцев назад +1

      I thought OPD on the ID4 was on the stock. Was it removed on the 2024? Because it's def there on older ones

    • @jimsomerville3924
      @jimsomerville3924 5 месяцев назад

      @@kalvinconnor2168 There's a "B" mode that is near one-pedal mode. But it does not bring you to a complete stop without hitting brakes. I wish it was adjustable.

    • @mikefarrington7141
      @mikefarrington7141 5 месяцев назад

      @@kalvinconnor2168They have "B" mode, which is high-regen but it won't take you down to a complete stop.

  • @TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay
    @TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay 5 месяцев назад +2

    Heat pump and physical knobs and buttons?

  • @kieransteele7223
    @kieransteele7223 5 месяцев назад +3

    Still needs another 100 miles of range to be viable in the awd. Major pass

    • @krane15
      @krane15 5 месяцев назад +1

      The car has to outlast me. Anything under a solid 300 mi I ignore completely.

  • @johnwalker418
    @johnwalker418 5 месяцев назад +4

    I’m waiting to get a new 23 for half off..

  • @WW-wf8tu
    @WW-wf8tu 5 месяцев назад +3

    I wonder why ICE vehicles don't "pre-condition" the fuel system so it can take gasoline faster at the pumps? Oh right, wasted energy it does not need to use to "charge"(fuel)back up. I reckon this conditioning thing is part of why the batteries are not supposed to go below 20%. Wonder why fuel tanks are not supposed to go below 20% oh wait because we get to use all the fuel to get maximum range. Some even have reserves. Paying for parking to use a charger?🤣 The life of being an EV user in these situations is so un appealing. EV's for local drivers that can plug in at home, is good. Provided the grid is not over loaded and or offline. Also provided "home" is not an apartment/condo situation where you have to share chargers with other residents.

    • @Harrythehun
      @Harrythehun 5 месяцев назад +4

      Different strokes for different folks. I love my EVs and will not return to the expensive and stealership cancer emitting cars but people can decide for themselves.

  • @ien2023
    @ien2023 5 месяцев назад +3

    So VW, Hyundai, and KIA keeping up with the time while Honda and Toyota still having an EV identity crisis.

    • @jonpetter8921
      @jonpetter8921 4 месяца назад

      Don t underestimate Toyota, Honda however .....

    • @LarryRichelli
      @LarryRichelli 2 месяца назад

      @@jonpetter8921 Do underestimate Toyota. They are getting so far behind it will take years to catch up especially since their CEO group don't like EVs. Screw them

  • @williamsloggy5144
    @williamsloggy5144 4 месяца назад

    I'm a fan but the new lineup makes no sense. Why is VW forcing 20 inch wheels on us? You can get RWD Pro with 19 inch but go to AWD and its 20! Also is VW going to give us free adaptors like Ford is doing. I'm inclined to wait for a NACS compatible model.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 4 месяца назад

      VW isn't forcing 20 in wheels. I believe they start at 18". But however, it might interest you to know that all EV tires are twice as expensive as their ICE counterparts and last half as long.

    • @williamsloggy5144
      @williamsloggy5144 4 месяца назад

      @@krane15 They start at 19 and are only available on the basic which is just a 2023 model and the pro which has a boring color choice. Move up to the Pro AWD and there you are stuck with 20 inchers, also on the ProS. So yes I feel pressured to get the 20.

  • @KKTF13
    @KKTF13 5 месяцев назад

    Because front and rear brake system difference, you cannot rotate the tire. This caused rear tire gone very quickly than front.

  • @jorgerobles628
    @jorgerobles628 5 месяцев назад

    The guy of "E for Electric" had this Id.4 for more than three years, and the problems he encountered were not related with any of the features mentioned here, but with the software. The OS was going from fast and responsive, to a laggard, freezing at times. The updates had to be done at the Dealer's shop and were not very good at re-establishing functionality, or adding new features. And those problems affected the AC function, speed of charge, wiper function, and other basic and essential functions. So tell me, how this model had improved on that, specially for a guy like me who is not into racing or speeding at all, but reliability and functionality. You are not addressing those things.

  • @brhutchi
    @brhutchi 5 месяцев назад +4

    Better but more expensive than a Y AWD

    • @dvwatts
      @dvwatts 5 месяцев назад

      Where is the better?

  • @mikethebeast1012
    @mikethebeast1012 5 месяцев назад

    More efficient and more powerful. None of the complaints about cost cutting or gimmicky UI have been addressed.

  • @robervin9107
    @robervin9107 5 месяцев назад +1

    Five stars on yelp for just kase and tommy You both have really stepped up this year so far as has Alex as I have asked if you. Ps tommy your doing spectacular as backup leader and kase you too keep it going. I asked for adventure and we definitely got it in this 😂 lmao

  • @irenecheca6575
    @irenecheca6575 5 месяцев назад +1

    Getting rid of paper manual is a mistake, what is you have a problem with the infotaiment, or that particular screen freezes? How do you solve your issue then?

    • @pietwandelaar1743
      @pietwandelaar1743 5 месяцев назад +2

      Perhaps one can download a copy and have it available on a phone or tablet.

    • @finnibat
      @finnibat 3 месяца назад +1

      They didn't get rid of it, you still have a paper copy in the car.
      You can just ALSO access it via the screen, which is nice, because you can easily search keywords etc.

  • @brhutchi
    @brhutchi 5 месяцев назад +2

    When is this car available?

  • @nevco8774
    @nevco8774 5 месяцев назад +1

    For its extremely competitive segment VW ID4 is way overpriced with at least 10000 USD. The price of AWD top spec max out with options should be under 50000 USD including the destination charge. The car does not have exclusive features to claim premium price like for instance, exceptionally good seats, very cushy ride, higher range, very high charging speed, very good route planning, front trunk for luggage, more premium interior, very high efficiency, perfect sound system, high towing capacity, off road ability or even a free NACS adapter with Tesla Superchargers access.
    It is true: it has better rear space design than Kia EV6 or even Hyundai Ioniq5. It has massaging seats, heated, cooled seats, motorized sun roof glass cover but the sun roof is not opening.
    With the current price of VW ID4 should be priced Audi Q4 etron.
    It is time to wake up: very soon Chinese manufacturers will build their cars in Mexico and flood the USA, Canada market with high quality, low price, high tech EVs.
    VW has pathetic sales of ICE cars in the USA. What this company is thinking? Its sales plunged in China.

  • @p.matthew5293
    @p.matthew5293 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! I had the same experience finding this charging station. Haha.

  • @sterlingpamplin
    @sterlingpamplin 5 месяцев назад +5

    Jesus Christ why the hell can’t these manufactures put the charging port on the driver side rear if they are planning on adopting Tesla supercharger network?!!!

    • @hwirtwirt4500
      @hwirtwirt4500 5 месяцев назад +2

      Why does tesla refuse to put a useful size charging cable on their chargers? Is Musk that cheap.

    • @wesleykins
      @wesleykins 5 месяцев назад +1

      I agree they should move it, but VW put it the same place they put their gas cap since forever, passenger rear.

    • @FriedChairs
      @FriedChairs 5 месяцев назад

      @@hwirtwirt4500 The newer ones have longer cables.

    • @sterlingpamplin
      @sterlingpamplin 5 месяцев назад

      @@hwirtwirt4500 first of all, it is their charging network and they never really had intentions of opening it, and second of all look at the ergonomics of having your charging port right behind you, as you step out. It makes no sense to open your door, slightly close your door to get around it to the front of your vehicle or to the other side of your vehicle to plug it in. What part of this doesn’t make sense for the car makers adopting NACs to not adopt the correct location for ease of use for everybody.
      I won’t lie, I will be that asshole Tesla driver if it comes down to me charging or them blocking two spots because the car they bought has the port in a stupid spot

    • @hwirtwirt4500
      @hwirtwirt4500 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@sterlingpamplin Cry me a river! Musk decided to make extra profit by bringing in more users and making claims that his is the de facto standard for charging. To make that so the system needs to accommodate all users. Do gasoline filling stations only service one brand of vehicles? Of course not, that would be ridicules. The sightedness and frankly cheapness that resulted in the use a short cable lacking a cooling system is now coming back to haunt him. If you don't like the situation, call your savior Elon and cry to him. Short of that, suck it up and stop whining.

  • @Stuka87
    @Stuka87 5 месяцев назад

    Its unfortunate that so many controls are still on the screen or haptic, and that there STILL isn't a volume knob. But otherwise so good iterative changes.

  • @ivalterbaptista2305
    @ivalterbaptista2305 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice car but why anyone would consider this over a Tesla is beyond me. It’s a nice looking vehicle. Looks better than a Tesla, but Tesla does EVs better than anyone. Does this VW have access to supercharger network? Because that would be a deal breaker. Also no heat pump?? Come on VW.

  • @tonystorcke
    @tonystorcke 5 месяцев назад

    The video does not feature the charging port at all.

  • @phillipw2493
    @phillipw2493 5 месяцев назад +2

    Should do an insurance comparison

  • @lasvegasbound6167
    @lasvegasbound6167 5 месяцев назад

    This VW video started with a Honda commercial. Where are the Quantumscape solid-state batteries installed?

  • @TBKR90
    @TBKR90 2 месяца назад

    Does the new 2024 ID.5 get these updates too?

  • @HeyyyMikeyyy
    @HeyyyMikeyyy 5 месяцев назад

    When accountants get involved in designing a car, it pulls from the humanistic usability of a vehicle, makes it harder and unpleasant to use and reduces sales. In my mind, ALL manufacturers need to bring back hard buttons and get rid of the screen and haptic buttons/sliders.

  • @alancobbin
    @alancobbin 5 месяцев назад +1

    I’m hoping some updates will be carried over also to the new 2024 Ford Explorer ,cheers guys 👍😉💪

  • @TassieEV
    @TassieEV 5 месяцев назад

    Well 4yrs in the US but hasn't even launched yet in Australia, supposedly due this year around mid-year. So I guess the first ID.4 for Australia will be the upgraded version that you have shown in your video. The question is have they fixed the software is it version 4.x or still 3.x in the ID.4.

  • @robhamilton4736
    @robhamilton4736 4 месяца назад

    Wrong!!! Wiring problems, battery leakage issues, and the worst brakes ever that screech upon every tap of the brakes.. Save you money. This is not an honorable company and the product is trash.

  • @victorcenac1247
    @victorcenac1247 5 месяцев назад +1

    does it stop on one pedal driving?

    • @wesleykins
      @wesleykins 5 месяцев назад +1

      No. B mode is pretty good, but not even close to OPD. The Mach-e has great OPD, and going back and forth between that and the ID.4, even in B mode, is jarring.

    • @victorcenac1247
      @victorcenac1247 5 месяцев назад

      I drive a Bolt and OPD is very nice. ID4 is a mediocre vehicle with this power train. They try to do the best with what they have, but they need something that’s up to date.

  • @hynsum
    @hynsum 5 месяцев назад +4

    Is the color called: "road camouflage"? 😜😎

    • @nicholassmith7048
      @nicholassmith7048 5 месяцев назад +1

      I believe it may be called "cement grey" or simply "primer".

    • @hynsum
      @hynsum 5 месяцев назад

      @@nicholassmith7048 👍🤣

    • @Dystopiancircus
      @Dystopiancircus 5 месяцев назад +1

      Hey, I have a 2023 in that color and I love it. My first choice was the blue but I could not handle a white steering wheel and white seats.

    • @hynsum
      @hynsum 5 месяцев назад

      @@Dystopiancircus I'm happy you enjoy your color and your car👍👍
      Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say.

  • @frankcoffey
    @frankcoffey 5 месяцев назад +2

    The drum brakes are strange but if you use one pedal driving or max regen you may never have to replace the brakes anyway. Overall the car is good but it's way over priced and that's not a new thing for VW gas or EV.

  •  5 месяцев назад

    I really like this car but the charging network is the now the only negative

  • @halsnyder296
    @halsnyder296 5 месяцев назад

    I want these proponents of touch controls to come to Hawaii (island Hawaii) and operate them while driving. They may work on a smooth highway, but twisting, often rough roads, good luck.

  • @nicholassmith7048
    @nicholassmith7048 5 месяцев назад

    The lack of hard buttons and evident cost-cutting in the interior is unappealing.

  • @macdinvest
    @macdinvest 3 месяца назад

    New 2024 in my area for 35k with dealer discounts. 42k list….

  • @FriedChairs
    @FriedChairs 5 месяцев назад

    Lets compare feature with the Model Y. Both priced similarly, however, the ID4 may be relatively costlier depending on dealer and haggling skill. Let me know if I'm missing anything.
    Model Y AWD:
    Charging experience
    Heat pump
    Acceleration (4.3 with accel boost vs 5.7)
    One pedal driving
    Rear seat legroom
    Rear seat headroom
    Trunk size
    Subtrunk size
    Frunk
    Better sound system
    Vegan leather seats
    Heated back seats
    Software updateability
    FSD Availability
    No ties to company that lied about emissions of vehicles and was fined heavily for it
    ID4 AWD:
    Lighting (interior and exterior)
    Display in front of driver
    Pull out roof shade (can be added aftermarket on Y)
    Appearance (Even though I like the Y design)
    No ties to Elon Musk

    • @ScotMatheson
      @ScotMatheson 5 месяцев назад

      you missed a few
      New sound system
      Vegan leather
      Rear seat legroom
      OTA updates now
      Heated and vented from seats
      May have lied about emissions but not about EPA estimates

  • @JP-sw5ho
    @JP-sw5ho 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nobody wants to buy a not-a-Tesla to eliminate the front trunk. Front trunks are great because in a Tesla people could smash your windows and get into the trunk, but they can't smash and grab from the front trunk.
    But people would buy a not-a-Tesla to get physical buttons and controls... that's the play and VW is missing it

  • @ChrisLey
    @ChrisLey 5 месяцев назад

    I see no improvements over the 2021 ID4 I currently own. Disappointed that VW hasn’t listened to customers to incorporate some physical buttons. Also, where is the new steering wheel we were promised over 2 yrs ago?!

  • @erikstephens34
    @erikstephens34 5 месяцев назад

    I didn't hear if they brought back the heat pump. I know the original German built ID.4's had it standard. It was an option for a bit here in Canada. But in Canada the Heat Pump is a really nice have to improve that winter range.

    • @wesleykins
      @wesleykins 5 месяцев назад

      Pretty sure they did not.

    • @ScotMatheson
      @ScotMatheson 5 месяцев назад

      the heat pump is an option in Canada @@wesleykins

  • @alexanderavdeef2260
    @alexanderavdeef2260 Месяц назад

    I have a awd pro s it came with defective windshield, distortion in window posts and center passenger side. Was replaced with another bad shield only worse than before! WTF? My 2 nd awd pro s. Really disappointed with VW.

  • @kennethjinkins8967
    @kennethjinkins8967 5 месяцев назад +1

    how come automakers count hybrid as an electric sale .... liars

  • @Zoolookuk
    @Zoolookuk 5 месяцев назад

    When is this expected to be available at dealers? I only see the 2023 models available. You ptobbal mentioned it but I was multitasking with work.

    • @michaels3003
      @michaels3003 4 месяца назад

      In my area, the supply is very, very limited in April.

  • @kenth151
    @kenth151 5 месяцев назад

    This is the SUV they should have brought out 4 years ago.

  • @lindamiskin4522
    @lindamiskin4522 5 месяцев назад +2

    The main takeaway for me was trolling to find a charging station only to find they are all in use and waiting around for one to free up. Seems like people will become slaves to feeding the savage beast….

    • @ShippyJack
      @ShippyJack 5 месяцев назад +1

      I personally spend less time "fueling" since buying an EV. Takes 10 seconds to plug in at home and she's good to go in the morning. Full "tank" at the start of every day.
      I don't miss freezing my butt off at a gas pump every single week.

  • @mikefarrington7141
    @mikefarrington7141 5 месяцев назад +3

    I really can't get onboard with any VW EV until they offer one-pedal driving via either button or on-screen configuration. Driving around town or dealing with a stop-and-go highway log jam are both so much better with OPD.

    • @ChadTi99
      @ChadTi99 5 месяцев назад +1

      Still no OPD?!? Cmon VW!

    • @Evan_Land
      @Evan_Land 5 месяцев назад +1

      One pedal drive is the best single non-autonomous feature of any VEHICLE in traffic.
      For those who have never driven one pedal drive, imagine slowing the car without the effort of pushing on a brake pedal… small change, but adds up in traffic.

    • @kenschmiesing4442
      @kenschmiesing4442 5 месяцев назад +2

      I am not a fan of opd. Blended brake fan here:). I do not live in an area where stop and go is very frequent, so that may be contributing to my opinion

    • @mikefarrington7141
      @mikefarrington7141 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@kenschmiesing4442I don't think OPD should be forced on anyone, but it really should be an option in every EV in my opinion. Those who love it, LOVE IT. VW is losing sales from people like me who will never go back to an EV that doesn't offer it. I actually like both the ID.4 (now that they've fixed the infotainment mess) and the Nissan Ariya, but I have crossed both off of my shopping list due to lack of OPD. The whole reason I watched this video was to see if VW has finally changed course on their OPD stance.

    • @gregkramer5588
      @gregkramer5588 5 месяцев назад +2

      I have used one pedal and it is ok, but far from a reason to skip a vehicle.

  • @carlfriedrichs2404
    @carlfriedrichs2404 3 месяца назад

    We have a Volkswagen ID4 2022 Pro S. Pros: quiet cabin, comfortable seating, good Soundsystem. Cons: anemic range, useless app for the phone. For example, if the car is unlocked. There’s no way to lock it with the phone., And the reverse is also true there’s no way to unlock it with a phone. I rent this car out on Turo and it is the only one that requires a lockbox attached to the window, which is so 1980s.

  • @Ancho1987jaja
    @Ancho1987jaja 5 месяцев назад

    That boy whistelin like an old man from Family Guy

  • @williamhach1550
    @williamhach1550 5 месяцев назад

    Excellent video, Tommy and Kase!!! The new iD4 looks decent but I think I’ll stick with my R1S 😊

  • @voyageurmike
    @voyageurmike 5 месяцев назад +2

    No mention of the ID.7 coming to the US sometime this year. It is a sedan made in Germany, so no tax rebate. But it has gotten rave reviews in Europe as the ID flagship model.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 5 месяцев назад

      September 2024. Although I'm sure that will be too expensive too.

  • @joshuasmith8040
    @joshuasmith8040 5 месяцев назад

    Yup another downfall for EV…. You get to your location on a road trip to charge, under 10% charge…. Roll up fully conditioned and there is a lineup of other EV’s while all the ones plugged in have no one attending… Will it be an hour or 4 until they return and leave?

  • @talldave7799
    @talldave7799 5 месяцев назад

    It's absurd that they did not fix the window buttons and still requiring a toggle to switch between Front and Back windows! Dumbest design idea I have seen in a long time.

  • @karimhassanelbanna5216
    @karimhassanelbanna5216 4 месяца назад

    what is max speed ?

  • @josephpayne6278
    @josephpayne6278 10 дней назад

    Good video, informative

  • @TheGippy30
    @TheGippy30 28 дней назад

    Who on earth are you kidding, this cars initial release has been one of the most unreliable vehicles ever produced

  • @Robshamsterteam
    @Robshamsterteam 5 месяцев назад

    I’m glad they added some more power that 200 hp was really underpowered for an EV and you would expect to have at least the same amount of power as a Tesla if you’re gonna charge like 10 grand more

    • @LarryRichelli
      @LarryRichelli 2 месяца назад

      This car does not come close to any new tesla. It is still under powered. Zero to 60 in over 5 seconds.

  • @lifeisgood12341
    @lifeisgood12341 3 месяца назад

    They did take away the front recovery point unfortunately

  • @raidersamson3356
    @raidersamson3356 4 месяца назад

    These guys are a walking advertisement for VW, I bet VW love them reviewing their car. Guys, this car failed not because of range or even looks, it failed because of lack of software support, crabby charging network, and being more expensive than model Y.

  • @mullholand
    @mullholand 5 месяцев назад

    Wow - two people drinking the VW kool-aide…. Looks like no room in the back seat. And come on “we were having this issue earlier….” Pass

  • @Boomtendo4tw
    @Boomtendo4tw 5 месяцев назад

    The dual motor is about as fast as the base charger Daytona now

  • @katiecannon8186
    @katiecannon8186 5 месяцев назад

    We need the ID 3.
    I do not like SUVs, especially ones as large as this.

  • @LarryRichelli
    @LarryRichelli 2 месяца назад

    Zero to 60 time is dismal especially for an EV

  • @shanethrelfall416
    @shanethrelfall416 Месяц назад

    Never buy a First Edition of anything from a car manufacturer