For the GPU you should stick a sheet of paper folder in 3~4 on that area , it's more secure (i use a knife and i rise the IHS up after heat it with my heat gun). Thanks for the tips
Pedro F. Everyone will have a different variation on how they do it, The way I do it has served me well on hundreds of consoles, No point changing a working formula 😀
@bobbydowngrades HI i attempted to delid my phat ps3 and was successful with the SB and RSX but couldn't get the CELL off and I believe i damaged a trace or 2 however I'm unable to discern if this is true or not since i can't get the IHS off also in order to soften the glue i tried using a hair dryer which did make the chip feel warm to touch however i couldn't cut in. Once reassembled i got the flashing red light. The following day I called a reputable game repair shop and they basically said don't even bother bringing it in and to just forget about it. Is their any reason I shouldn't listen to them?
If you did damage a trace or more than one they can be re laid, however the cost of that repair would most likely be quite high compared to the price of the ps3 unit. It depends which model it is. If it's a common model then get a new one and you could always take the CID from the broken one. If it's a special model then it may be worth having the traces re laid. That being said, I know from experience that the traces on top of the cell chip are very difficult to replace and they take an experienced repairer. I would first double check the sb and the rsx to make sure both are in place and undamaged. Not replacing the thermal paste and glue correctly underneath the rsx plate can cause the issue you describe and of course if a leg on the south bridge is out of place then the same can happen.
@@bobbydowngrades CID? also do you think that I should just bring the console in anyway to the repair shop so that they can at least look at it? I went ahead and got the CECHA01 with disc drive issues from ebay and I think I may just try and fix that one but instead of trying to delid it myself I take it straight there and have them do it
How hot did you run the heat gun? I’m guessing about 200 degrees but I would appreciate a confirmation from you. Also, should I replace their silicone adhesive with arctic silver thermal adhesive?
Has anyone heard of the cramolin flux-off spray??? They say you can spray on the adhesive which will turn it into slime, then use some 0.23 mm 30lb test fishing line to cut through the softened adhesive in a sawing motion. No risk of damaging any traces since there is no metal involved. Any tipps?
I just never got round to doing a re assembly video. Any silicone can be used providing it is specifically for heat spreading however the best stuff to use is arctic thermal adhesive that comes in 2 parts.
your GPU procedure was perfect, however your CPU was not a method I would recommend. I would try to find a metal spudger similar to yours, and bend it in a similar way but also sharpen the edges as much as possible and then heat up the IHS like you did but then just cut the glue as slowly as possible. I wouldn't be putting any excess force on the blade. Not only can you accidentally damage the CPU, you can easily scratch the board or knock components off/rip pads off. slower is better
There definitely is a risk, that's why I mentioned practicing on dead boards first, since making the video I haven't changed the technique only because I'm used to it, there is a small artists knife that allows you to not need to heat the cup, it's thin enough to cut the glue like butter. Thanks for your input.
What's THE best method for fixing YLOD? I recently tried with a heat gun at 330 Celsius for 30 seconds on both CPU & GPU (both sides) but it didn't work
If it is the gpu at fault (not all ylod is) then it needs to be reballed with a bga machine, it's possible to do with a heat gun but much better with a bga machine, I have a video on how to do it with xbox, it's the same process just a different chip, I have repaired some ps3s that drop out months later but some work for years after being reballed, depends on the actual ps3 itself.
evoGage Technically yes, You can just apply thermal paste where the thermal adhesive would go and providing your careful when putting it back together then once it is screwed back together it will not move and do just as good a job as the adhesive, well technically better as thermal paste is more conductive than adhesive
@@bobbywhite6208 I used thermal paste on the ram chips on the GPU and it runs great. I was too scared to do the CPU and now there's a 30 + degree celcius difference between the two chips. Now i'm tempted to delid the CPU...
@@Sampsonay update for me, did it on my first console both the cpu and gpu successfully and didnt scratch anything but my idiot self scratched off a few tracers on the cpu pcb trying to get the glue off with my nail, resulted in overvoltage and killed my motherboard, just be careful with the cpu glue, it's hard to get off without scratching the pcb or tracers on the pcb
hi my ps3 only works when i use a hairdryer on it for a few mins..it will not start up when it cold ..could any tell the reason why it only works when warm air going through it ..as i want to get it repaired thanks
robert spencer Firstly using a hairdryer is causing more damage and amateur techniques should never be used,, The problem with the PS3 is that the gpu (rsx chip) has a problem with the solder balls underneath it that connect it to the motherboard, The correct way to repair it is to reball the gpu chip, This must be done by a professional and reflowing it is a temporary fix, There's a video on this channel called how to reball an Xbox gpu, That will show you the process as it's exactly the same process as a PS3 gpu
robert spencer No problem, Hope you get it sorted, Just so you know, I've been repairing ps3s for around 8 years and I consider myself a professional but even when I have repaired them sometimes they can break just 6 months after, Ps3s are like cars, once something major goes wrong it's gone be a trickle of other problems
hi bobby, nice video and great tutorial, i have a ps3 fat which i need to change the thermal. Question, can i use gelid gc extreme as a substitute for the conductive glue? Is it safe to put the thermal on all 4 side of the gpu? Will it stick? Cuz I don't have any conductive glue. Sorry for too much question Thanks
It is ok to replace thermal glue on rsx/gpu. It will not stick but as long as you are careful when you close up ps3 it will stay in place. I have seen ps3s last years before needing paste changed. Not sure about gelid gc I have never head of it.
great video, Im thinking of taking my PS3 for this little improvement tour as sort of an interest/enthousiast thing. Question though, you take of the IHS of the CPU and remove the glue and you said you put some glue back, what I want to know is, if you remove all the glue around the cell cpu and off the ihs, is the height still enough? like if I would put it back on is the weight of the headsink still spread to the sides or is it then pressing on the cpu (meaning it makes the IHS useless).
You would replace the existing glue with new glue in the exact same way that it was on there before, I recommend using silicone glue rather than hardening glue as it will give it a bit of flexibility after its dried, Also I recommend leaving it all to settle for a day or two after applying new paste and glue, It's possible to not glue them but in my experience of you do that you end up changing the paste every say 3 months, As long as you use the new glue in fashion with the old glue, position and thickness I mean, then you'll be fine
Are all CECH A01 disc drive's the same? cause I'm thinking about buying another one for parts on ebay and all that's wrong is that theirs a disc issue but I have a good disc reader in my other one that I messed up so I think I might just use for parts and fix the one from ebay.
With the phat models there are only 3 types of disc drive. The ones with the daughterboard outside the drive (as with your A01) or the ones with the daughterboard on the inside and the ones with the daughterboard inside but with a smaller ribbon cable that plugs into the motherboard. As a rule CECH A to G use the outside version and CECH H onwards use the inside version. BUT all drives should work in all models providing the ribbon size matches.
This is why, I choose Xbox 360 instead PS3; because Xbox 360 (fat) doesn't have any plates. So, it's much easier to maintenance especially to change thermal paste. Cause the paste direct to the chip👍🤙
Hi, thanks. Yes mx4 is a good paste. If you carefully scrape off the old glue that is there and put mx4 on the silver part of the chip and on the top of the ram chips (in each corner of the rsx) then sit the IHS plates in place then put mx4 on top of the plates and put the ps3 back together the pressure of the clamps will hold the IHS plates in place. Just be careful when you put it back together and take your time. I have seen ps3s last years like that.
You must put the ihs plate back after, you do not have to glue it, you can simply replace where the glue would go with thermal paste and it will still work.
I have a fat ps3 upon power up the fan runs at full speed for 10 seconds then shuts off red light no video is displayed - do you think new paste top and bottom will help ?
Do you know how to delid the cell/be of ps3 cech-2001B? the thickness of the "glue" is less than 0.25mm, i could not find anything that cuts the glue, have you been through it? cpu and gpu are coming easy easy at 70 degrees even after I change the thermal paste and increase the cooler speed to 35%, help please
Yes i have done all slim models like this, Your correct the glue is thinner on 2001 model, I recommend looking for an artists palet knife, some can be very thin, you can then slide it under the corner of the cpu and cut the glue without using any heat, Remember you cannot go straight accross though because of the shiny part of the cpu under the ihs plate, So slide the artiats palet knife under one corner and slide it along the edges, Hope that helps, good luck
i have a super slim that used freeze once or trice a day even after i opened and changed thermal paste but after i put in an ssd this issue of freezing is still there but its far less frequent I was wondering what. your thoughts might be
Super slim models were made very badly with many poor quality parts. From what you said about the storage replacement reducing the frequency of the issue it could be possible that there is some issue with the ps3s internal storage. Some super slims have a 12gb built in and some have a much smaller memory. It could be possible that the internal storage could need resetting or formatting.
Hi. Do you offer a service to do this to my PS3 Slim? Its over heating quickly. I already replaced the thermal paste on the normal place on the outside but made no difference
Phillip Croxford i do yes, if your in the uk, it does not always solve the problem tho, ot depends howuch damage has been done to the chips from overheating, 95% of the time replacing the paste underneath the ihs plates will solve overheating issues but sometimes if a chip has taken a lot of damage it wont solve the issue
The glue underneath is about 2mm from the edge. The glue is about 4mm. The gap from the glue to the metal top of the chip is about 15mm. The tool should be about 7/8mm
Hi i need help my ps3 after change of thermal paste under ihs is working but standby led isn't on ????? i dont undarstand it normally turns on with green light but in standby mode theres any light
SashaTessa I don't know exactly what's wrong cuz I'm not there, It sounds like you have scratched the cell chip, On the top of the chip you will see many lines accross the green top, If you scratch through just one of those lines the PS3 will not work
There are some sections on the chips where there are traces, Gold lines underneath the green coating, These traces carry information as part of the circuits of the motherboard, So if you scratch through a trace and break it the signal cannot be carried from the chip to where it was going
I’ve also removed IHS on my PS3 as well. What do you think should I have to apply new silicone around the CPU? Can the IHS plate damage the CPU without silicon?
I have seen someome have only thermal paste not Adhesive/silicone and the ps3 worked perfectly fine for at least a few years. If you can use thermal paste and also thermal adhesive that would be ideal, if not just paste is fine just male sure to refresh it every 6 months or so
Yes that would be a good idea. Normally with the jb ps3s I would add a fan mod device which allows you to turn the speed of the fan up and down or I would use webman to adjust the fan using software only, which is not as good but works.
@@bobbydowngrades What I notice with old systems like this is components get brittle, so even the ribbon connector clamps that secure the ribbon connector onto the contacts can break at the sides. On a Gaming PC there would be a load of case fans for cooling so it may be safer to install an extra case fan here (?) I would like to attempt this but am scared at how tricky it is, respect to your skills ! 👍
Silicone glue doesn't really matter , it's such an easy mixture that just a cheap one will do fine. For thermal adhesive, which is the stuff that sets, I would use arctic.
@@bobbydowngrades there is any wrong with the stock glue? i know there is a huge diffrence when you change the thermal paste in the cores below the ihs.
Bobby downgrades I need a hand my rsx chip is playing up and giving me colored lines accros the screen and frezzes I turn off the console and it takes awhile to turn off then beeps Twix before turning off, do I need a full re ball or just to take off the ihs plate and clean under it and re apply thermal paste
So i have a phat and got my cfw from a friend he has had 9 months but he gave me it and full max fan i get 66 idle xmb i'm super scared to replace the thermal paste but yet again i'm scared to get ylod
Well i'm not a beginner, i'm a certified electronic technician and your method is dangerous . Sorry but i have to say the truth. It's been 35 years i'm in the business. Thank's. Best regards.
Serge Lavallee Lol, I didn't say you were a beginner, I'm glad you have spent a long time doing this type of work, Well done, It may look dangerous to you but for me is very very good
Can we do this on a Ps3 40GB cechg04 fat what is Blowing as a vacuum cleaner or leaf blower and where you have only replaced coolpaste on the top of the ihs half Year ago
yes all models can be done, but with the older cech-g model I would recommend using 300 degrees not 500 like i use in the video, they tend to warp easier
Any ideals why I got YLOD after this? (CPU was hitting 79C at idle before I decided to re do IHS PAste) I didnt scratch the Cell or do any physical damage that I can see to anything, Is it possible I need to reflow it as well?
Felix Snow Ylod is just the PS3 saying it has something wrong with it, If it stopped turning on before you changed the thermal paste then yes it could need a reflow, I never recommend reflows tho only reballing as it's a much more thorough way of fixing, Many ps3s can live with the cpu at 79 and it not cause a problem for many years and some cannot handle short duration, Without looking at it myself I couldn't diagnose it 100% correctly but one thing I've noticed over the years is it's very very rare for the cpu to need reballing and it's normally the gpu that has solder problems
Bobby Downgrades idk how lol i have a temp controled station but thanks ill send it out for a reball and new gpu :) would you know of any places in the usa that are cheap for that?
Felix Snow It's very easy, For example when I use my bga machine the room must be a certain temperature before I start otherwise the process cannot be completed with 100% success, It sounds like the gpu either got to hot or was heated for too long, that's normally an issue that makes then fail, No sorry I don't know anywhere in the states that does it
xSALTI 98 It could have ylod from having no ihs plate, Ylod is just the ps3 saying theres a problem, You will first need to attach or place it's ihs plate on
Bobby Downgrades i got another ps3 which i can remove ihs plate and attach to this one , could this fix it ? And what do i need to use it to attach the plate
xSALTI 98 Should do, You use thermal paste on the shiny middle of the chip and thermal adhesive to glue then down, Instead of gluing them down you can just put thermal paste on the shiny part and on each ram and sit them in place
Bobby Downgrades so all i got to do ,is heat the board up , use thermal paste on the chip and the ihs plate , i dont have the clamps for ps3 , will this be a problem ?
nice video. But i have a problem that my ps3 just says OVERHEATING but its not really overheating, i tried changing the thermal paste but it was overheating even faster. i don´t know if its becouse i uset thermal paste for 2€. but im still kinda scared that if i will be popping out the IHS from Gpu the heat will melt solder under gpu and it will pop off with the IHS (so entire chip will pop off) and forever ruin my ps3 and old good days. Pls help
The tin that is closest to those squares on my ps3 has heat vapors like tattooed into the metal lol My PS3 just burned to death for hours while a hotdog salesman on GTA IV yells "cmon! Theyre not gonna throw themselves up!" Hahahahaha ill follow this video next time i open it up, its retired for the moment. I think the power supply quit.
Thanks for your feedback. I can see why you would think that, anyone who has no experience would think the same. Once you have done this method a few times and got used to it you would realise that it's actually a very easy and safe method. Obviously if an amateur tries it there could be complications, so maybe you should not try. This video is aimed at people with a certain level of skill.
@@bobbydowngrades the only amateur like thing is your handling of this IHS. Don't tell me this wannabe pro-BS. There are a million other tutorials out there which are showing clearly your are everything but not a pro.
good video man, i have a rebug 4.81 cfw and my cpu temp stay at 73° after 20 minutes with the fan set at 50% , my rsx is fine at least, 50° after hours and hours of play. should i need to change thermal paste of cpu? thx
OhhKaarma yes definitely, 73 is too hot, use a fan control like webman and make sure you can hear the fan, if the cpu is still getting to 73 then the paste needs changing, as a rule of thumb, fats should never reach 65 on either chip and slims should never reach 60, although some ps3s are just hot and no amount of work can stop them reaching over those temperatures
The Chitty Chatty Commenter Unleaded solder melts at around 217 degrees celcius, leaded solder melts at around 187 dependant on the percentage of lead mix (187 at 40% lead which I believe you can't buy anymore) Sony only uses unleaded solder but I'm guessing it's lowest possible quality haha, solder ball problems normally occur from the cooling rather than the melting with the solder balls cracking rather than melting into each other
Most dangerous way i ever saw in my life. People, DON'T DO WHAT YOU SEE. NEVER TAKE THE SILLICONE OFF EITHER.YOU RISK TO SCRATCH THAT BOARD AND KILL THE CHIP. You also did slide off and scratch the board. You could have brake parts off the board when you did slide and scratch and i Wonder if this board still work. If you scratch this board just a bit it's dead.. DON'T DO IT LIKE THAT. I'm a certified electronic technician and the way you took them off is VERY DANGEROUS. people if you are not certified, don't play in there just to save money. It will cost you double money.
It would only break the board if you scratched through traces, the gold lines, In the video i say to practice to get technique correct, There is no right and wrong way, As long as ps3 works after then is ok, Any ps3 i do this to still work with no problem
@@bobbydowngrades It is not the right way. If you are not qualified you don't touch those boards, that's all. People if you want to do it this way, up to you i don't care, it's your Ps3, not mine!
This is exactly what my Ps3 needs because doing nothing in the XMB it sits on 61°C on CPU and 55°C on the GPU, most of the time is on 70% fan speed...and i don't have the balls to do it xD have you ever got a Ps3 from outside of your country? Im from Puerto Rico.
Christian xxiForza If it was that high with the fan at say 35% then I would say its just a hot ps3 but at 70% it is not good, I do but it would be expensive, Probably around $160 us dollars for you to send it to me and me to send it back, for an extra $50 usd you could get a new one already done
Incorrect, The board will withstand that level of heat over a short period of time, as long as you keep the heat gun moving, It may warp the board if you hold the heat gun still. I don't know whether you commented out of some form of jealousy or whether you genuinely believe that, Either way I respect your opinion but you are wrong, I have repaired hundreds of ps3s over the years using this method of removal and had a 100% success rate with customers.
@@bobbydowngrades I meant no offense but your heatgun absolutely bended the board there while heating up the cpu. Watch from 11:10 to 13:30 on double speed, you can see how the board bends upwards. And one more thing: you do not need to heat the CPU IHS because it's held on the silicone. The heat won't make silicone any easier to remove. You only need to heat the GPU IHS because it's held on thermal glue.
Sorry I do not have time to watch videos back in double speed, If you have and could see the board bend it is a trick of the eye and bro why would you watch the video in double speed lol. You will find that only heating the top of the ihs plate will not melt the silicone however using flux paste to spread the heat underneath infact heats the silicone softening it which makes it easier to cut. Please stop trying to find things wrong with this method and simply accept that even if it doesn't work for you it works perfectly fine for me and other people who have done this successfully. Thank you.
@@bobbydowngrades Not sure why are you trying to deny something everyone can see with their eyes, even refusing to see for yourself. You claim you have no time to check the video for 5 seconds yet here you are with a lenghy reply. Just click through the time interval between 11:10 and 13:30 and see how much it bends from your heatgun. I successfully removed the CPU IHS without any heat, it is a preferable method recommended by 95% of people doing the IHS removals. Using excessive amounts of heat produced with a heatgun is unnecessary and can damage the components, reducing their lifespan. It's a fact.
Look, the fact is your upset with my video. You don't agree with the method. That's fine. You don't seem to understand what I say, it worked for me hundreds of times for customers. Please stop being a hater and go and make your own video on how you would it. Good day and goodbye.
Maybe after heating but I have never tried. Best method to date is with an artist's eisal knife, they can remove cpu without needing to heat but you must be heated anyway.
@@bobbydowngrades okay thank you for the reply i application it. One last question is hair dryer enough to melt the adhesive and is it really necessary to change it along side with the thermal paste? Thanks in advance.
Very dangerous way to work men. It's not the right way to open the GPU. First your screwdriver can dammage the chip and you can slip taking off the CPU. Yo should use a cloth on the board in case you slip. At least the cloth will protect the board. And you should take your time to do this, you go too quick. Be carefull men because people will do what you do and they are gonna brake their Ps3. Thank's. Best regards.
Serge Lavallee For beginners yes if they do like this they can cause damage, That is why I say to practice on broken ps3s first to get used to it, For me is cleanest way and because I have done many I never cause damage, Thanks for your comment
It can do yes, depends on exactly what the issue is. The thermal paste being dry and needing changing can cause rlod or ylod. If the problem is more severe, as in the solder under the gpu needs reflowing then this will not fix the issue.
@@bobbydowngrades my ps3 was working perfectly fine yesterday i played games for like 1 and half hour at the morning whem i start to play its doesn’t work
For the GPU you should stick a sheet of paper folder in 3~4 on that area , it's more secure (i use a knife and i rise the IHS up after heat it with my heat gun).
Thanks for the tips
Pedro F.
Everyone will have a different variation on how they do it,
The way I do it has served me well on hundreds of consoles,
No point changing a working formula 😀
@bobbydowngrades HI i attempted to delid my phat ps3 and was successful with the SB and RSX but couldn't get the CELL off and I believe i damaged a trace or 2 however I'm unable to discern if this is true or not since i can't get the IHS off also in order to soften the glue i tried using a hair dryer which did make the chip feel warm to touch however i couldn't cut in. Once reassembled i got the flashing red light. The following day I called a reputable game repair shop and they basically said don't even bother bringing it in and to just forget about it. Is their any reason I shouldn't listen to them?
If you did damage a trace or more than one they can be re laid, however the cost of that repair would most likely be quite high compared to the price of the ps3 unit.
It depends which model it is. If it's a common model then get a new one and you could always take the CID from the broken one.
If it's a special model then it may be worth having the traces re laid.
That being said, I know from experience that the traces on top of the cell chip are very difficult to replace and they take an experienced repairer.
I would first double check the sb and the rsx to make sure both are in place and undamaged.
Not replacing the thermal paste and glue correctly underneath the rsx plate can cause the issue you describe and of course if a leg on the south bridge is out of place then the same can happen.
Also a hairdryer will most likely heat the glue of the cell plate to soften it but it would take a very long time to do so.
@@bobbydowngrades CID? also do you think that I should just bring the console in anyway to the repair shop so that they can at least look at it? I went ahead and got the CECHA01 with disc drive issues from ebay and I think I may just try and fix that one but instead of trying to delid it myself I take it straight there and have them do it
How hot did you run the heat gun? I’m guessing about 200 degrees but I would appreciate a confirmation from you.
Also, should I replace their silicone adhesive with arctic silver thermal adhesive?
iOBX
Yes arctic silver thermal adhesive is good quality,
300 degrees and I keep it moving, the problem is staying still with the heat
Don't use heat at all my cip become desolder
Has anyone heard of the cramolin flux-off spray???
They say you can spray on the adhesive which will turn it into slime, then use some 0.23 mm 30lb test fishing line to cut through the softened adhesive in a sawing motion. No risk of damaging any traces since there is no metal involved. Any tipps?
I have not heard of it, may be a bit tricky spraying it underneath the ihs plates but if it works it sounds good
good for the disassembly but I would like to know what silicone is used for the processor and see an assembly, since it does not have videos of it
I just never got round to doing a re assembly video.
Any silicone can be used providing it is specifically for heat spreading however the best stuff to use is arctic thermal adhesive that comes in 2 parts.
Thanks
14:25 That looks dangerous! o.o
ArcaneTuber
so does surgery lol,
thats why i say that you should use already broken spare boards to practice,
once you get good it never fails
your GPU procedure was perfect, however your CPU was not a method I would recommend. I would try to find a metal spudger similar to yours, and bend it in a similar way but also sharpen the edges as much as possible and then heat up the IHS like you did but then just cut the glue as slowly as possible. I wouldn't be putting any excess force on the blade. Not only can you accidentally damage the CPU, you can easily scratch the board or knock components off/rip pads off. slower is better
There definitely is a risk, that's why I mentioned practicing on dead boards first, since making the video I haven't changed the technique only because I'm used to it, there is a small artists knife that allows you to not need to heat the cup, it's thin enough to cut the glue like butter.
Thanks for your input.
What's THE best method for fixing YLOD? I recently tried with a heat gun at 330 Celsius for 30 seconds on both CPU & GPU (both sides) but it didn't work
buying a new playstation, yellow light of death, is called that for a reason.
If it is the gpu at fault (not all ylod is) then it needs to be reballed with a bga machine, it's possible to do with a heat gun but much better with a bga machine,
I have a video on how to do it with xbox, it's the same process just a different chip,
I have repaired some ps3s that drop out months later but some work for years after being reballed, depends on the actual ps3 itself.
Ozzie Peck I downgrade these for people & occasionally someone will ask about me fixing YLOD!!!
Just wondering, can you just use thermal paste without glue? I mean can you carefully put it back with the heatsink/fan and it wouldn't move too much?
evoGage
Technically yes,
You can just apply thermal paste where the thermal adhesive would go and providing your careful when putting it back together then once it is screwed back together it will not move and do just as good a job as the adhesive, well technically better as thermal paste is more conductive than adhesive
Bobby Downgrades ok thanks. I'll give that a go since I don't have the glue.
Did it work for you? Successful at all?
@@bobbywhite6208 I used thermal paste on the ram chips on the GPU and it runs great. I was too scared to do the CPU and now there's a 30 + degree celcius difference between the two chips. Now i'm tempted to delid the CPU...
@@Sampsonay update for me, did it on my first console both the cpu and gpu successfully and didnt scratch anything but my idiot self scratched off a few tracers on the cpu pcb trying to get the glue off with my nail, resulted in overvoltage and killed my motherboard, just be careful with the cpu glue, it's hard to get off without scratching the pcb or tracers on the pcb
hi my ps3 only works when i use a hairdryer on it for a few mins..it will not start up when it cold ..could any tell the reason why it only works when warm air going through it ..as i want to get it repaired thanks
robert spencer
Firstly using a hairdryer is causing more damage and amateur techniques should never be used,,
The problem with the PS3 is that the gpu (rsx chip) has a problem with the solder balls underneath it that connect it to the motherboard,
The correct way to repair it is to reball the gpu chip,
This must be done by a professional and reflowing it is a temporary fix,
There's a video on this channel called how to reball an Xbox gpu,
That will show you the process as it's exactly the same process as a PS3 gpu
ok thanks bobby ..gonna take a look now
robert spencer
No problem,
Hope you get it sorted,
Just so you know, I've been repairing ps3s for around 8 years and I consider myself a professional but even when I have repaired them sometimes they can break just 6 months after,
Ps3s are like cars, once something major goes wrong it's gone be a trickle of other problems
hi bobby, nice video and great tutorial, i have a ps3 fat which i need to change the thermal. Question, can i use gelid gc extreme as a substitute for the conductive glue? Is it safe to put the thermal on all 4 side of the gpu? Will it stick? Cuz I don't have any conductive glue. Sorry for too much question
Thanks
It is ok to replace thermal glue on rsx/gpu.
It will not stick but as long as you are careful when you close up ps3 it will stay in place.
I have seen ps3s last years before needing paste changed.
Not sure about gelid gc I have never head of it.
I changed thermal paste and ps3 beeps and goes off, i then removed plate and added paste but still the same
Can we use spirit as rubbing alchol for cleaning my ps3 i was using surgical which was avaliable in madical shop
great video, Im thinking of taking my PS3 for this little improvement tour as sort of an interest/enthousiast thing.
Question though, you take of the IHS of the CPU and remove the glue and you said you put some glue back, what I want to know is, if you remove all the glue around the cell cpu and off the ihs, is the height still enough? like if I would put it back on is the weight of the headsink still spread to the sides or is it then pressing on the cpu (meaning it makes the IHS useless).
You would replace the existing glue with new glue in the exact same way that it was on there before,
I recommend using silicone glue rather than hardening glue as it will give it a bit of flexibility after its dried,
Also I recommend leaving it all to settle for a day or two after applying new paste and glue,
It's possible to not glue them but in my experience of you do that you end up changing the paste every say 3 months,
As long as you use the new glue in fashion with the old glue, position and thickness I mean, then you'll be fine
Bobby Downgrades ah ok, thanks a lot :)
Why would not using glue make you change your thermal paste any more often than if you glued it?
Are all CECH A01 disc drive's the same? cause I'm thinking about buying another one for parts on ebay and all that's wrong is that theirs a disc issue but I have a good disc reader in my other one that I messed up so I think I might just use for parts and fix the one from ebay.
With the phat models there are only 3 types of disc drive.
The ones with the daughterboard outside the drive (as with your A01) or the ones with the daughterboard on the inside and the ones with the daughterboard inside but with a smaller ribbon cable that plugs into the motherboard.
As a rule CECH A to G use the outside version and CECH H onwards use the inside version.
BUT all drives should work in all models providing the ribbon size matches.
This is why, I choose Xbox 360 instead PS3; because Xbox 360 (fat) doesn't have any plates.
So, it's much easier to maintenance especially to change thermal paste.
Cause the paste direct to the chip👍🤙
Where are you in the UK? I have one doesnt even go up the fan noise slightly but i want to future proof it
Hi, great video. One question, can i use mx4 also instead of the conductive glue, coa i dont have it.. Will platea still be in place or? Ty
Hi, thanks.
Yes mx4 is a good paste.
If you carefully scrape off the old glue that is there and put mx4 on the silver part of the chip and on the top of the ram chips (in each corner of the rsx) then sit the IHS plates in place then put mx4 on top of the plates and put the ps3 back together the pressure of the clamps will hold the IHS plates in place.
Just be careful when you put it back together and take your time.
I have seen ps3s last years like that.
Quick question, do you NEED to put a heat spreader back on after removal, or can you just close it back without one?
You must put the ihs plate back after, you do not have to glue it, you can simply replace where the glue would go with thermal paste and it will still work.
I have a fat ps3 upon power up the fan runs at full speed for 10 seconds then shuts off red light no video is displayed - do you think new paste top and bottom will help ?
Maybe, it sounds like the ps3 has overheated a lot.
If new paste does not fix it then it will need to be reflowed/reballed.
Do you know how to delid the cell/be of ps3 cech-2001B? the thickness of the "glue" is less than 0.25mm, i could not find anything that cuts the glue, have you been through it? cpu and gpu are coming easy easy at 70 degrees even after I change the thermal paste and increase the cooler speed to 35%, help please
Yes i have done all slim models like this,
Your correct the glue is thinner on 2001 model,
I recommend looking for an artists palet knife, some can be very thin, you can then slide it under the corner of the cpu and cut the glue without using any heat,
Remember you cannot go straight accross though because of the shiny part of the cpu under the ihs plate,
So slide the artiats palet knife under one corner and slide it along the edges,
Hope that helps, good luck
i have a super slim that used freeze once or trice a day even after i opened and changed thermal paste but after i put in an ssd this issue of freezing is still there but its far less frequent I was wondering what. your thoughts might be
Super slim models were made very badly with many poor quality parts.
From what you said about the storage replacement reducing the frequency of the issue it could be possible that there is some issue with the ps3s internal storage. Some super slims have a 12gb built in and some have a much smaller memory.
It could be possible that the internal storage could need resetting or formatting.
Hi. Do you offer a service to do this to my PS3 Slim? Its over heating quickly. I already replaced the thermal paste on the normal place on the outside but made no difference
Phillip Croxford
i do yes, if your in the uk,
it does not always solve the problem tho,
ot depends howuch damage has been done to the chips from overheating,
95% of the time replacing the paste underneath the ihs plates will solve overheating issues but sometimes if a chip has taken a lot of damage it wont solve the issue
How long should the tip of the tool be? I Don't want to accidentally put it in to deep.
In mm if possible.
The glue underneath is about 2mm from the edge.
The glue is about 4mm.
The gap from the glue to the metal top of the chip is about 15mm.
The tool should be about 7/8mm
@@bobbydowngrades Thank you for your help and very detailed information.
Hello please tell me.. can i replace gpu 65 nm with 40 nm or 90 nm???? My old dameged gpu is cxd2991egb... Or can i use on this system cxd2979gb????
Hi i need help my ps3 after change of thermal paste under ihs is working but standby led isn't on ????? i dont undarstand it normally turns on with green light but in standby mode theres any light
The ps3 is still working but just the led light is not workingfor standby ?
@@bobbydowngrades yes
@@bobbydowngrades but its not fully Maked up just motherboard with power supply
I bought a ps3 used to change the thermal paste and was without the IHS I will have problems in the future? Can I use without the ihs
the ihs plates can be (not glued) but they must be there,
if you do not glue them be sure to use good quality paste instead
hi. I did everything like on video but after assembling it starts and turns off . could you tell me what I did wrong . thanks
SashaTessa
I don't know exactly what's wrong cuz I'm not there,
It sounds like you have scratched the cell chip,
On the top of the chip you will see many lines accross the green top,
If you scratch through just one of those lines the PS3 will not work
When you say ruin it, do you mean if you scratch the chip in the middle, or the entire green square it is attached to?
There are some sections on the chips where there are traces,
Gold lines underneath the green coating,
These traces carry information as part of the circuits of the motherboard,
So if you scratch through a trace and break it the signal cannot be carried from the chip to where it was going
What are Heat Sync Clamps?
I’ve also removed IHS on my PS3 as well. What do you think should I have to apply new silicone around the CPU? Can the IHS plate damage the CPU without silicon?
I have seen someome have only thermal paste not
Adhesive/silicone and the ps3 worked perfectly fine for at least a few years.
If you can use thermal paste and also thermal adhesive that would be ideal, if not just paste is fine just male sure to refresh it every 6 months or so
I bought a used PS3 and the IHS plates were removed and artic 4 thermal paste was added, will this cause problems? Thanks
It shouldnt do, i know many people do not re attach the ihs plates and their ps3s work fine
hey, i tried to remove ihs from the board on broken ps3 and GPU popped off in 5 seconds but CPU was so hard idk how to remove it
Fiko
Did you heat the chip like in the video,
I explain the process for the cpu in the video
yes i did and it was the same
Fiko
My best guess would be you didn't heat it correctly,
You need to get the 4 corners of the rsx to loosen the glue on top of the ram chips
if you know how to download fan driver plz help i have not got the "install packages" in my ps3 or i can´t find it
i wanted to see the temperature
Amazing video not for the faint hearted 😨 Is it possible to use a more powerful fan along with new thermal paste/pads? Way safer 🤔
Yes that would be a good idea.
Normally with the jb ps3s I would add a fan mod device which allows you to turn the speed of the fan up and down or I would use webman to adjust the fan using software only, which is not as good but works.
@@bobbydowngrades What I notice with old systems like this is components get brittle, so even the ribbon connector clamps that secure the ribbon connector onto the contacts can break at the sides. On a Gaming PC there would be a load of case fans for cooling so it may be safer to install an extra case fan here (?) I would like to attempt this but am scared at how tricky it is, respect to your skills ! 👍
What brand of silicone glue do you use
Silicone glue doesn't really matter , it's such an easy mixture that just a cheap one will do fine. For thermal adhesive, which is the stuff that sets, I would use arctic.
@@bobbydowngrades Thank you very much going to try my first one
hi are you still performing these repair services? i have a ps3 fats that needs this done
Hi, sorry I'm not. It's not cost effective due to the low prices of ps3s now.
why you remove the glue under the second ihs?
To put better quality glue on
@@bobbydowngrades there is any wrong with the stock glue? i know there is a huge diffrence when you change the thermal paste in the cores below the ihs.
Bobby downgrades I need a hand my rsx chip is playing up and giving me colored lines accros the screen and frezzes I turn off the console and it takes awhile to turn off then beeps Twix before turning off, do I need a full re ball or just to take off the ihs plate and clean under it and re apply thermal paste
A reflow may do it but it will need to be reballed
Actually the rsx will need replacing as its faulty hence the lines
+Bobby Downgrades so if I reflow it that won't work at all ans would be a waste of thermal paste?
Reflowing may fix it for a short time but I doubt it,
When I get those consoles I normally just put a new rsx on
+Bobby Downgrades I wish you lived in New Zealand lol, how hard is it to re ball? and how much for a new chip?
So i have a phat and got my cfw from a friend he has had 9 months but he gave me it and full max fan i get 66 idle xmb i'm super scared to replace the thermal paste but yet again i'm scared to get ylod
Dripz
If your fan is max and your getting 66 then it's only a matter of time until ylod hits
Ah fuck 6 days i had this and already not gonna turn it on from now..
hi CPU CELL very hard to cut. Best air temperature welder?
Well i'm not a beginner, i'm a certified electronic technician and your method is dangerous . Sorry but i have to say the truth. It's been 35 years i'm in the business. Thank's. Best regards.
Serge Lavallee
Lol, I didn't say you were a beginner,
I'm glad you have spent a long time doing this type of work,
Well done,
It may look dangerous to you but for me is very very good
Would this be recommending for a 20gb ps3 it's 2017 and and mine has never gotten ylod
Rosie Bond
Depends on how hot the ps3 gets
Can we do this on a Ps3 40GB cechg04 fat what is Blowing as a vacuum cleaner or leaf blower and where you have only replaced coolpaste on the top of the ihs half Year ago
yes all models can be done, but with the older cech-g model I would recommend using 300 degrees not 500 like i use in the video, they tend to warp easier
Any ideals why I got YLOD after this? (CPU was hitting 79C at idle before I decided to re do IHS PAste)
I didnt scratch the Cell or do any physical damage that I can see to anything, Is it possible I need to reflow it as well?
Felix Snow
Ylod is just the PS3 saying it has something wrong with it,
If it stopped turning on before you changed the thermal paste then yes it could need a reflow,
I never recommend reflows tho only reballing as it's a much more thorough way of fixing,
Many ps3s can live with the cpu at 79 and it not cause a problem for many years and some cannot handle short duration,
Without looking at it myself I couldn't diagnose it 100% correctly but one thing I've noticed over the years is it's very very rare for the cpu to need reballing and it's normally the gpu that has solder problems
I ended up re flowing it and now have the GLOD XD (No audio or video and controller wont sync)
Felix Snow
The graphics chip is now broken buddy and it needs replacing
Bobby Downgrades idk how lol i have a temp controled station but thanks ill send it out for a reball and new gpu :) would you know of any places in the usa that are cheap for that?
Felix Snow
It's very easy,
For example when I use my bga machine the room must be a certain temperature before I start otherwise the process cannot be completed with 100% success,
It sounds like the gpu either got to hot or was heated for too long, that's normally an issue that makes then fail,
No sorry I don't know anywhere in the states that does it
i need your help , my fat ps3 doesnt have an ihs plate on one chip, that one with the ram , my ps3 has ylod , what should i do to get it work again
xSALTI 98
It could have ylod from having no ihs plate,
Ylod is just the ps3 saying theres a problem,
You will first need to attach or place it's ihs plate on
Bobby Downgrades i got another ps3 which i can remove ihs plate and attach to this one , could this fix it ? And what do i need to use it to attach the plate
xSALTI 98
Should do,
You use thermal paste on the shiny middle of the chip and thermal adhesive to glue then down,
Instead of gluing them down you can just put thermal paste on the shiny part and on each ram and sit them in place
Bobby Downgrades so all i got to do ,is heat the board up , use thermal paste on the chip and the ihs plate , i dont have the clamps for ps3 , will this be a problem ?
xSALTI 98
Yes it will be a problem, the clamps to hold the motherboard down when you put the ps3 back together are very important
nice video. But i have a problem that my ps3 just says OVERHEATING but its not really overheating, i tried changing the thermal paste but it was overheating even faster. i don´t know if its becouse i uset thermal paste for 2€. but im still kinda scared that if i will be popping out the IHS from Gpu the heat will melt solder under gpu and it will pop off with the IHS (so entire chip will pop off) and forever ruin my ps3 and old good days. Pls help
Fiko
If your not confident removing the ihs plates I would recommend finding someone to do it for you,
You must use high quality paste
ok. and if i will just apply HQ thermal paste on top of IHS and not uder it, it should be okay?
The tin that is closest to those squares on my ps3 has heat vapors like tattooed into the metal lol
My PS3 just burned to death for hours while a hotdog salesman on GTA IV yells "cmon! Theyre not gonna throw themselves up!" Hahahahaha ill follow this video next time i open it up, its retired for the moment. I think the power supply quit.
can I use alcohol and a paper towel or cotton ball to remove that paste from under cpu and gpu?
toontownlegomaster
I use m.e.k and cotton buds (q-tips) to clean underneath,
The cotton ball should be fine but don't use the paper towel
What is that tool you used to pry the IHS plates off?
toontownlegomaster
It is a nail cuticle tool I got from Asda (wall mart) and has been cut and sanded down
Is this the one you got .
www.walmart.com/ip/MASH-Premium-Stainless-Steel-Cuticle-Pusher-Cutter-Trimmer/253856264?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=6528&adid=22222222228073020431&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=184833833171&wl4=pla-290681897918&wl5=1013697&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=115064689&wl11=online&wl12=253856264&wl13=&veh=sem
Name of the heating machine
How do I apply the thermal paste on the CPU/GPU?
Under the ihs plates or on top ?
Can you do a video for the super slim does it work for the super slim?
Super slims dont have an ihs plate like the fat and slim models
So just put some thermal paste on the Apu and I should be fine?
If your tool snaps that hard and if you scrub with it over the whole board:
Your tool is dull like a ruler and you're doing it just wrong!
Thanks for your feedback.
I can see why you would think that, anyone who has no experience would think the same.
Once you have done this method a few times and got used to it you would realise that it's actually a very easy and safe method. Obviously if an amateur tries it there could be complications, so maybe you should not try.
This video is aimed at people with a certain level of skill.
@@bobbydowngrades the only amateur like thing is your handling of this IHS.
Don't tell me this wannabe pro-BS.
There are a million other tutorials out there which are showing clearly your are everything but not a pro.
where did you get the nail file 1mm?
It's not a nail file, it's a small tool for use on nail cuticles, I believe it's from asda/wallmart
In the section by the nail files and nail clippers
Can I use attic silver 5 instead of glue
Yes it will work, as long as you are aware and anyone who works on it in the future is aware then should be fine
Where can I get the glue to put the plates back on?
Murkin Modz
The glue is heat conductive, it's very important that it's heat conductive
are you able to ship me the glue?
Murkin Modz
No, I don't sell it
aww man where can i get this?
Murkin Modz
Ebay I would assume
how many degrees is the rework station
500 degrees.
You must keep the gun moving, never hold it still over the top of the chip or you could cause heat damage
good video man, i have a rebug 4.81 cfw and my cpu temp stay at 73° after 20 minutes with the fan set at 50% , my rsx is fine at least, 50° after hours and hours of play. should i need to change thermal paste of cpu? thx
OhhKaarma
yes definitely, 73 is too hot,
use a fan control like webman and make sure you can hear the fan,
if the cpu is still getting to 73 then the paste needs changing,
as a rule of thumb,
fats should never reach 65 on either chip and slims should never reach 60,
although some ps3s are just hot and no amount of work can stop them reaching over those temperatures
Bobby Downgrades thank you for the answer, i will change it ;)
The Chitty Chatty Commenter
Unleaded solder melts at around 217 degrees celcius, leaded solder melts at around 187 dependant on the percentage of lead mix (187 at 40% lead which I believe you can't buy anymore)
Sony only uses unleaded solder but I'm guessing it's lowest possible quality haha, solder ball problems normally occur from the cooling rather than the melting with the solder balls cracking rather than melting into each other
great vid keep it up brp
Most dangerous way i ever saw in my life. People, DON'T DO WHAT YOU SEE. NEVER TAKE THE SILLICONE OFF EITHER.YOU RISK TO SCRATCH THAT BOARD AND KILL THE CHIP. You also did slide off and scratch the board. You could have brake parts off the board when you did slide and scratch and i Wonder if this board still work. If you scratch this board just a bit it's dead.. DON'T DO IT LIKE THAT. I'm a certified electronic technician and the way you took them off is VERY DANGEROUS. people if you are not certified, don't play in there just to save money. It will cost you double money.
It would only break the board if you scratched through traces, the gold lines,
In the video i say to practice to get technique correct,
There is no right and wrong way,
As long as ps3 works after then is ok,
Any ps3 i do this to still work with no problem
@@bobbydowngrades It is not the right way. If you are not qualified you don't touch those boards, that's all. People if you want to do it this way, up to you i don't care, it's your Ps3, not mine!
Do you reball with a heat gun?
Jason Mattison
I used to until I bought a scottle bga machine,
But you must be very precise and do it properly, like using multiple thermostat sensors
This is exactly what my Ps3 needs because doing nothing in the XMB it sits on 61°C on CPU and 55°C on the GPU, most of the time is on 70% fan speed...and i don't have the balls to do it xD have you ever got a Ps3 from outside of your country? Im from Puerto Rico.
Christian xxiForza
If it was that high with the fan at say 35% then I would say its just a hot ps3 but at 70% it is not good,
I do but it would be expensive,
Probably around $160 us dollars for you to send it to me and me to send it back, for an extra $50 usd you could get a new one already done
Where in the U.K. are you based?
Nathan Haigh
Birmingham
You warped the board while heating the cpu there. People who watch this, don't do this or you will destroy your ps3.
Incorrect,
The board will withstand that level of heat over a short period of time, as long as you keep the heat gun moving,
It may warp the board if you hold the heat gun still.
I don't know whether you commented out of some form of jealousy or whether you genuinely believe that,
Either way I respect your opinion but you are wrong, I have repaired hundreds of ps3s over the years using this method of removal and had a 100% success rate with customers.
@@bobbydowngrades I meant no offense but your heatgun absolutely bended the board there while heating up the cpu. Watch from 11:10 to 13:30 on double speed, you can see how the board bends upwards. And one more thing: you do not need to heat the CPU IHS because it's held on the silicone. The heat won't make silicone any easier to remove. You only need to heat the GPU IHS because it's held on thermal glue.
Sorry I do not have time to watch videos back in double speed, If you have and could see the board bend it is a trick of the eye and bro why would you watch the video in double speed lol.
You will find that only heating the top of the ihs plate will not melt the silicone however using flux paste to spread the heat underneath infact heats the silicone softening it which makes it easier to cut.
Please stop trying to find things wrong with this method and simply accept that even if it doesn't work for you it works perfectly fine for me and other people who have done this successfully.
Thank you.
@@bobbydowngrades Not sure why are you trying to deny something everyone can see with their eyes, even refusing to see for yourself. You claim you have no time to check the video for 5 seconds yet here you are with a lenghy reply. Just click through the time interval between 11:10 and 13:30 and see how much it bends from your heatgun.
I successfully removed the CPU IHS without any heat, it is a preferable method recommended by 95% of people doing the IHS removals. Using excessive amounts of heat produced with a heatgun is unnecessary and can damage the components, reducing their lifespan. It's a fact.
Look, the fact is your upset with my video.
You don't agree with the method.
That's fine.
You don't seem to understand what I say, it worked for me hundreds of times for customers.
Please stop being a hater and go and make your own video on how you would it.
Good day and goodbye.
Do you still fix ps3?
How do I go about getting in contact with you? I have two PS3s that I want to send off to you.
Does dental floss method work?
Maybe after heating but I have never tried.
Best method to date is with an artist's eisal knife, they can remove cpu without needing to heat but you must be heated anyway.
@@bobbydowngrades okay thank you for the reply i application it. One last question is hair dryer enough to melt the adhesive and is it really necessary to change it along side with the thermal paste? Thanks in advance.
@@bobbydowngrades i found this video: ruclips.net/video/aajAXdDqDr0/видео.html what do you think?
i think you shoud do a set up tut where you work
If you twist surely ull break the circuit
Not sure which circuit you mean, if done correctly there's no damage to any part
@@bobbydowngrades was amazed on how u do it, no cardboard on the bottom , u must have been doing it for years
Very dangerous way to work men. It's not the right way to open the GPU. First your screwdriver can dammage the chip and you can slip taking off the CPU. Yo should use a cloth on the board in case you slip. At least the cloth will protect the board. And you should take your time to do this, you go too quick. Be carefull men because people will do what you do and they are gonna brake their Ps3. Thank's. Best regards.
Serge Lavallee
For beginners yes if they do like this they can cause damage,
That is why I say to practice on broken ps3s first to get used to it,
For me is cleanest way and because I have done many I never cause damage,
Thanks for your comment
hey man can i trust to send my ps3 to you to fix this?
Murkin Modz
What's wrong with it ?
my jailbroken ps3 is shutting down its a slim model white playing after a bit i think under the ihs plates thermal paste dried out
Murkin Modz
If it has ylod it could need the graphics chip reballing, I could not say for definite what's wrong without looking at it
no because i had ylod on my old fat ps3 and i didnt even turn on
Murkin Modz
Oh I misunderstood,
I thought you meant it didn't turn on but if it's shutting down while playing then yes it's the thermal paste
hey bro does it fix rlod problem
It can do yes, depends on exactly what the issue is.
The thermal paste being dry and needing changing can cause rlod or ylod.
If the problem is more severe, as in the solder under the gpu needs reflowing then this will not fix the issue.
@@bobbydowngrades i did thermal paste change it still not working
@@bobbydowngrades my ps3 was working perfectly fine yesterday i played games for like 1 and half hour
at the morning whem i start to play its doesn’t work
Thanks for your cfw ^_^
Hey buddy can you send me the glue that you use to my facebook, I am sure you still have me in your messages from ps3 modding lmao James Owens
btw, in a GPU its VRAM. but good video any way.
Ozzie Peck
How has memory or virtual memory got anything to do with this video ?
I don't understand what you mean
Naic
Can we use spirit as rubbing alchol for cleaning my ps3 i was using surgical which was avaliable in madical shop
Yes but dependant on the spirit it would need to be mixed with water to water it down slightly