PS3 SYSCON Tutorial | How to Diagnose the YLOD on PlayStation 3 using its own System Controller
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- THIS IS A TURORIAL to gain access and utilize the System Controller IC on a PlayStation 3 to retrieve the error logs and basic debugging information. These are very useful to help diagnose and repair the console after experiencing issues, such as a Yellow Light of Death (YLOD). However, it can be useful for much more than that. I cover the basics, not the more advanced stuff you can do with it. This is mainly geared the novice who needs a windows tutorial. For Linux users, there is already a PDF tutorial on @db260179's github. I suggest you read through the other resources he has compiled in that download as well. There are usefull schematics, voltage test pad locations, and more.
Links:
Written SYSCON Tutorial: www.psx-place.com/threads/sys...
Download Python: www.python.org/downloads/
Download SYSCON Script: github.com/db260179/ps3syscon
SYSCON Error Codes: www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Syscon_...
Asking for help (PSX Place forum): www.psx-place.com/threads/fau...
A list of my more useful posts: www.psx-place.com/threads/res...
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:06 What Is SYSCON?
3:53 Who Do We Thank?
04:34 Disclaimer
05:05 Part 1 - PS3 Turns on
09:00 Part 2 - PS3 Doesn't turn on
16:27 Mullion (External)
19:33 Mullion (Internal)
26:40 Sherwood
28:55 Asking For Help (Outro)
Music:
Fluidscape by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/...
This is exactly what i needed. I still haven't given up on my launch ps3 very late 2007 checa. Thank you Felix.
I love you for never giving up. That model has been a dream of mine since I was 11. I’m 29 now. And I need the one with the flap full of memory card slots. If gotten running? Test out that OS install option
We Broke that a long time ago... just sayin...
I still had mine in pieces from a failed reflow attempt in the mid 2010s before we knew what caused the yellow light. She let some dude in who tossed it at some point
It honestly amazes me that there is still an active community behind the launch PS3, as a Xbox 360 slim owner, I hold the 7th generation of consoles in a very special place inside my heart, and i hope I can get a classic Xbox 360 and a phat ps3 in the future to do my own experiments on them.
For me 5,6 and 7 generations of game console's was gold era of gaming and games
But, do you PWN it? Do you haves beyond access to the 360?
Theres still an active community behind the PS2 aswell.
@@DaWhiteTygerRGH 😉
I have two classic 360s and a few PS3s for sale...
Fun fact you can turn a raspberry pi pico into a Uart USB Bridge! I made a video on this recently. I have to say my video is not as well put together as this one! Great video!
An actual UART bridge is probably still cheaper, so it would only make sense to do this if you don't have one. Which, if you're doing this sort of thing, I recommend you just buy like 10 cheap ones.
Great tutorial! Even though I'm familiar with SYSCON, it's still nice to watch a more experienced person in action to make sure I don't miss anything.
Just a quick tip at 12:48: Instead of installing Python directly on your PC, consider using package management tools like Anaconda or Miniconda. This allows you to create virtual environments and install Python within them, making it easier to manage different Python versions in the future. Installing Python directly on your PC can be messy when it comes to upgrades or downgrades, but with Anaconda, you can have multiple Python versions in separate virtual environments.
Anyhow, great video as always! Can't wait to see your next one.
Just what I needed. I was gonna branch out and actually try to do syscon readings this way and didn’t really know where to start. Very helpful!
you're videos are so much informative and fun to watch hard to find fixing videos combining both, keep up the pace
This is such an incredible feat of the internet, thank you so much for distilling in such a legible manner
Very informative as always! Here's hoping this will help keep our systems alive for many, many years to come.
A most needed tutorial on one of the best diagnostic tools for the PS3. Thank you Felix, amazing work!.
Thank you for this! This is perfect for me to follow along for my dad’s PS3.
Awesome, Felix. Tremendous video as always 👏
Шикарная работа! ❤
Best tutorial so far. Good speed to follow, explanation of what and why instead of just instructions. Thanks Felix! Could you make a tutorial how to get data of the HDD, for example to save data of Playstation Home as there are some reverse engineering projects who are looking for them.
You'll need to dump the ERK for that. Requires CFW. Then there's a tool that allows you to decrypt and read the HDD contents. I forget the name of it off the top of my head. It's on the psx place. Ask around.
Exactly what i need for a ps3 slim ive been holding on to for a few years. Thanks man.
This video is pure gold
Thanx for the amazing tutorial and the efforts that U have put in this, I have nothing but respect!💪
You sir are critically underrated!
Loving the graphics in this video as I start watching. Can't wait to see the rest
Genuine tokin error! Incredible. Keep at it, dude!
I've been binge-watching your videos, really great stuff here and, hopefully, it will become easier and easier to identify a specific problem when it comes to YLOD.
I had a problem with the HDMI signal in my PS3 Slim (bought back in 2010, still well preserved but for some reason that happened), tried to look up people around me that work with consoles to fix mine, but most of them stopped fucking with the PS3 since the PS5 has been released, so all the documentation online will help us all when there's only enthusiasts charging $300 (not including shipping) to fix our old PS3s.
Thanks, bro.
Thank you Félix, I still have a japanese 20Gb backwards compatibility fat PS3 waiting to be repaired since 2012. Thanks for you knowledge.
Thank you Sir! VERY clear, informative video!
I can’t imagine the enormous amount of work that has gone into getting this information needed to build the tools. Thank you to all that contributed.
Further, Sony… give us access to the internal tools that will allow us to maintain our now defunct systems!
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
Finally, somebody knows about short circuit!
Great PlayStation 3 diagnosis
Thank you for the step by step detail!!!
Thanks for this excellent tutorial 🙏🙏🙏
Tip: pip as a command on its own is going in and out of deprecation and it seems that Python Foundation can't make up their mind. So it's worth keeping in mind, that you can also run "python3 -m pip" instead of "pip" when "pip" is unavailable as a command, but otherwise available as a module.
This is awesome! I’m so amazed at how diehard this community is
Man, this video is going to be my best friend when i plan on diagnosing my dads old day one ps3! its even older than me!
As the proud owner of eight PS3s, I’m so thankful that none have had any issues. I own three 60GB launch models, one partially PS2 compatible model, an E model, slim, super slim, and the gun grey MGS4 limited edition bundle.
Today I learned you can enter cmd in the address bar. Thanks I don't have a PS3 but this was very interesting
It’s always a good day when you upload. I might be getting a phat PS3 (unknown if it’s back-compatible) but I’ll definitely use this!
Thanks for this info bro i went to my ps3 and it works perfectly
increadible video, like always.
Just want to say thanks for the detail guide, very heplfull
Dude, this is awesome.
This video is a great rescource for when i fix up the PS3 i bought. Can't wait to get to it soon
what chance has you average game console user got one PC, even no what serial port is, never mind a command prompt?, it's like all been designed to make as complicated a you manly posable to fix anything?
That's programmed obsolescence for you. One of the reasons right to repair is so important since they can just drop support at any time. @@dh2032
Thank for this tut. Your ps3 videos are awesome. 👍
I don't even own a ps3, just have been enjoying your vids
Thank you for this easilly understandable tutorial! Now to check if errors 3034 and 4411 are solvable...
Looks like my CECHK may see another day yet! Thanks so much Felix!
Awesome information thank you much for the video we'll probably watch It 10 more times
Awesome, thank you for sharing this. I have 4 that are currently bricks, would be cool if I could fix any of them. I did purchase the adapter but I never got round to trying to get the logs. This video will help a lot, whenever I get some time to get around to that. Much appreciated.
That short circuit clip lol 😂 amazing
I wish we had this years ago, what a great and thorough tutorial, good job! But let's hope I won't ever need it for my slim PS3 haha
PS3 Slim doesnt get YLOD so i think youre safe lol
Secretly, they're just tired of so many "where do I put the pins", "how do I access the shell", and photos being submitted and instead of complaining about it (like most people on the internet) they made this useful video
Yes, partly. I have an entire post full of links to tutorials for common questions. But what people really want are videos. So finally getting around to it. But not because I'm annoyed by their questions. Everyone starts by not knowing. Not knowing what the previous 250 pages on the forum contain is understandable. I can forgive them for not reading all of it before asking a normal question that I've answered a hundred times before. I just like having a link to a post or video ready when they do.
i just did syscon check on a fat CEHH11 using a PiPico, 1-2sec YLOD, the main idea was to remove and replace all the tokins, good thing that i recalled about the syscon before attempting anything else, sadly it gave me errors 3034, meaning it needs a reball or bad CPU/GPU(?), i don´t have a reball station nor the skills to attempt a reball, maybe in a future i´ll get a station to learn how to reball PS3s and X360s, and just maybe, how to do a Frankie PS3.
Once 1 repaired a slim2001A by "blindly" replacing all NECTOKINS with Tantalums, and it still works fine, also just delidded it a few days ago along with my main 2501B, both working great now.
Anyway, thanks for the detailed tutorial, it really was nice to learn how to do syscon checks.
Great Video Felix!
This is why emulation *SHINES* !
Just the video I needed for some phats that I need to fix. You got a sub from me from now on
I had a slim back in 2010, and it would shut off after a few seconds. Found out online that if you turn a diode inside 10%, it would stay powered on. It did work.
Damn this is so cool and i would actually love to fuck around with the syscon a bit even though my PS3 is just genuinely dealing with a psu issue lol
nice. appreciate this
I watched this thinking it would be about how they broke the encryption, figured out the commands, etc. Still very interesting. Now I know how to fix a PS3 if I ever get one. 🤪
Excellent tutorial ! Now let's resurrect my 3034 YLOD CECHC PS3 (Damn I'm not enough skilled to do a Frankenstein Mod 😢)
I double checked and even re-soldered my wires thinking I might have had a cold solder joint, turns out it was just my rx and tx swapped the whole time... so much time wasted.
Hehe that’s an easy mistake to make, few colleagues in work do that still on occasion.
god i hope i never need to use this info, amazing video
Excellent tutorial. The only thing I did to my PS3 fat was change out the thermal paste and cleaned the heat sink about 4 years ago. I didn't have security torx drive but I had a drill so I drilled out the security pin and used a regular torx to open the system.
10 years spent of someone's life to get to this !, sure there are people out there who are worth millions of others who does nothing but to get life on this planet worse than it is...
That man deserves a documentary on his work!
Beloved!
Had my CECH-01 gathering dust waiting for this video, I knew you'd do it; and I was confident it'd be just like this.
Thanks so much fo all you've done man; it's time for me to do my part.
No. 5 lives !
imma be real, i dont even own a ps3, but god damn this video is interesting and well-crafted
i don't even have a ps3, but this is gonna be entertaining
Wow great!
I find it definetly not for a beginner to without a failsafe or alternative to repairing their dsi xl but I fixed by merely pulling back into level with the other pins heights to make all contacts on the sd reader on mine 3:10 huh.. pretty smart tbh I have to admit for bussiness reasons.
An glad to have been able to put back together with no noticeable damage or further issues with the dsi xl and the card will at least read now for listening to music even with the missing albeit my fault.. as in the past I being a stupid idiot kid back then tore the card slot cover. But meh the use of it for playing free downloaded music mp4 files is pretty sweet for gaining more convienient ability for keeping of downloaded form of music instead of buying the vinyl to try listneing with the difficulty of ONLY stationary non portable listening.. plus everyone prety much for personal use is downloading at least some of the not all time favs of their music for eli,ination of the expenses/cost associated with mass media cosnumption etc.
I'll give it to them It was a very effective tactic to separate themselves from the YLOD. If people assume it's just a PSU failure, SONY doesn't have to deal with the "YLOD" stigma. Which wasnt fair after they fixed the early issues. OFC the consoles could still break for a variety of causes and needed to have an error code system, but it was dibolically smart to change the way it's indicated...NGL.
A new Felix video!!!!
Amazing
Awesome
Thank you this upload I have 2 backwards compatible ps3 with emotion engine maybe I’ll get off my arse and syscon diagnose them lol
well thats nice, i could use a syscon debug/TS and I mainly use PopOs linux now
Here I go resurrecting the dead 10 plus years this would've been great to know
Thank you Felix just got the results and a 1002 seems to be the issue
In the latest releases he's put the script into a folder names linux.
Thank you very much
Honey wake up, it’s another RIP Felix video.
What an amazing guide, im picking up tommorow a whole lot of untested or clearly defective consoles - one of them is the cechc BC (EU model) and they state it has YLOD so that guide sounds very helpful to give it a try. You do appoint that its best to diassemble and get it hooked up before even trying 1st boot yourself?:) if not would really appreciate explanation on that. Also on on the power - do you use an external power connector for the 12V or for 5V and is there certain mA or A that should be specified if so.
I just use an APS226 PSU. I got banana plug to aligator clip cables for 12v. They plug into the PSU perfect. As for 5v I made an extention cable. This allows me to have PSU off to the side, out of the way and prevent shorting when the RF shield is not on (so I can live probe).
Should add syscon or ylod debugging or something similar for better search results on the consumer end
-If the console boots, is it acceptable/helpful to use CFW to dump the syscon logs when asking for help (assuming it's already installed)? Apologies if this is covered in the video and I somehow missed it.- Yep. It was answered pretty early in the video.
Thanks again for the fantastic tutorial.
For the PL2303TA USB to TTL Serial Cable, how do I know if it is 3.3 volts? How do I make it 3.3 volt's if it's not?
I did get the 2 pip things installed successfuly, however it's telling me there is a new update available for the pip I ran. When I did the pip command, it installed 23.2.1, but it told me there is 23.3.2 available. Should I update? Do I need to update?
I miss my PS3.
I want to get one and mod it, but they’re so expensive nowadays, especially for launch models.
My PS3 is still crying out for a savior from YLOD a lot of this technical stuff is beyond me.
Hey - there's a better way to 'open as path'
Try holding shift and right click in the folder and choose 'Open Powershell window here'. All known 'CMD' commands work in PS.
Yeah, some people prefer powershell. I'm less familiar with it and went with what I know.
@@ripfelix3020 fair enough :) just don't get left behind when cmd is retired is all 😎
I'm curious if I was to take my playstation 3 into a reputable repair place do they do this type of troubleshoot also?
Thank you for doing all these videos! I have 2 working BC phats and one given to me for parts. The 2 have worked great so far. Other than needing to replace a disc drive here and there. I never knew these consoles had so many problems. I always assumed they were bulletproof other than the random disc drive. I have noticed an unusual amount of heat and louder fans on my 1st one. Bur I never thought anything about it. It's mainly used to watch Blu-ray now. Should I be concerned?
Replace the thermal paste if you havnt done already. While doing that do a dust fan clean down. The original thermal paste will be like hard cement by now. Once replaced and cleaned should last for years to come
Those consoles are too valuable to just use as bd players and they'll burn their chip out eventually without warning. Either store them or sell them and then buy a cheap slim or super slim ps3 for bds.
thank u boss 😍 buy from rip felix
PS3 Slim 25xx can show yellow light but syscon doesn't for some reason do it on that model.
I would love to run linux natively instead of having to go through the game system itself. What I mean is to delete the game system OS and just have linux runing on boot up.
Hey Felix, question on your Tantalizer PCBs. Was gonna buy some off jlcpcb but they don't have 0.8mm Thickness in 2oz cooper like the osh park boards, only 1oz. Is getting the 1oz cooper PCBs off jlcpcb good enough to handle the current?
Yeah, that's fine.
@@ripfelix3020 Appreciate it thank you.
23:38 probably one out of a supercomputer or something but damn if that was game sessions then phew
Great video! One question, does the first method works with OFW?
Yes.
I wonder if it'd be possible to port the Python script to run in a web browser, however I do not have a PS3 (let alone one I'd trust my soldering skills with)
The script itself maybe, but I don't think there's any way for a web page to access serial ports.
There is WebUSB but that requires the device to explicitly support it. So you'd need a WebUSB-to-UART adapter. They probably exist, but I've never checked.
also what is the liquid used at 12:00 i assume it not water but idk ive never soldered (i will practice before i do this dw) let alone electronics
Isopropyl Alcohol (99%) used to dissolve flux and the paper towel to soak it up. Takes a few rounds of scrubbing and soaking up to get all the flux off.
Can you offer a tutorial on configuring the fan phases and duty cycles?
An example of the COK-001/2 default fan table is given in the written tutorial linked in the description. There is also a link to a thread on psx place with more examples and explanations.
A01 model owner, still runs all 3 gen games, blu rays, everything perfectly fine. Is there any benefit to running the toolset proactively checking errors that could lead to faults sooner than later? Just curious.
Just curiosity. But you should be aware there are likely to be some A0801001, A0801004, A0802022...etc. Potentially, A0801601/A08014FF/A0801701. Some errors can occur from unexpected shutdowns (like a power outtage, or pulled plug, surge). Or from software crashes that are sometimes encountered. If the console is otherwise stable, they shouldn't alarm you. If OTOH, there is instability in intense games and you see those, it could indicate a failure is in progress. Catching it early, can give you enough warning time to get your saves off, for example.
@@ripfelix3020thanks, it’s strange because even now I’ve always felt this ps3 has a more stable frame rate in demanding games such as Last of Us, MGRising, MGS4, etc. just lucky I suppose as it was definitely not opened before I did to repaste.
I’ll get around to that then and post any unusual codes I (may) get on the forum. 👌
I've been mentally gearing up to fix the 100 some of these I still have.
That'll be a grind. GL!
i'm having a hard time time seeing the dust i wish some one would point it out with some sort of indicator like some arrows or something it would be really helpful.
Been scrolling the internet for couple of days now, no answers. You are one of the only ones who seem actually professional about this. So the problem is: the playstation is fat, cechl turns on normally games work normally but after some time depending on the game the console turns off, 3 beebs blinking red light but no yellow light. Turns on normally after that. Syscon shows codes 2124 and 1002 after that the codes are 0xffffffff. I cleaned the playstation, it was full of dust. After that i replaced the paste, did that terribly. Could the problem be in the capacitors or somewhere else? The system has been turned off many times so could the problem be in corrupted files? Much appreciated. And sorry for bad english.
That is bad RSX tokins. The behavior you describe, the 1002 codes, and the model revision all strongly support that conclusion.
@@ripfelix3020 thank you very much, helps me a lot. I suppose all 4 caps have to be replaced. Is 470uf tantalum capacitor the right replacement or is there a better option?
These I designed to help make soldering easier, but you don't need them if you solder to the rails and use bridge wires. 3x 470uF per cap replaced works well. But there are some higher frequency harmonics that an array of MLCCs would help to remove. You can read about it here. www.psx-place.com/threads/research-experimental-nec-tokin-capacitors-replacement-ylod.25260/page-217#post-313627
@@ripfelix3020 thanks!
@@ripfelix3020 i read your advice on psx, so will one mlcc replace one nectokin?
19:11 that's not a weird format. It just looks like a truncated form of unix time, which is the number of seconds since the computing epoch (Jan 1st, 1970).
Yeah, it's J2000 epoch in HEX.
It's like analysing the black box of an airplane
@ripfelix3020 Hello Felix one question. Does the Syscon found in PS3 super slim all the SKUs associated with that redesign and production) also work with The Online Error log check or is it only for fat PS3?
Yes, you can use ps3toolset.com to check the errorlog for all models of PS3. You just can't jailbreak all models.
@@ripfelix3020 sweet thank you for letting me know Felix. I got an extra PS3 super slim that I plan on using and I deep cleaned it and want to double check if the system had any issues I'm not aware of.
@@ripfelix3020 I was gonna ask have you checked out or repaired any of the PS3 test units? Basically Sony made a few ps3s for devs and for QA purposes around the launch of PS3, these systems have region free PS1/PS2 support. Word is there much more reliable then The Launch 20 and 60 GB models.
A few of those dev/tool/review samples got binned GPUs (silicon lottery winners). They ran very efficient. I have seen confirmed binned 90nm RSX run at 40nm RSX temps under load. But buying a dev console doesnt guarintee you'll get a binned GPU. Some lucky retail models have them too. Pretty rare tho.