Finally, the only good method for reballing. You will find a lot of videos with a bit of reflow titled as "reballing", but this is actually the only one in which the job is done properly!
Several Technical Questions: -when removing the stencil, I assume there is enough flux to hold the balls securely, esp. since you remove the RSX "chip" from the jig. - Do you reuse RoHS or switch to lead-based solder balls? Mix? -How well does non RoHS balls bond to the RoHS board and chip pads? I realize your still getting more flexibility with the lead, but do you get joints likely to crack at these points? Temp differential of the 2 different solders perhaps etc? -your heating iron for the reflowing at the chip install is a press mount? I imagine the pressure applied is critical? too much and it would press the solder out too thin, causing bridges or less thickness? As the balls melt, the space is reduced. On the factory install, the space has hard adhesive on each corner of the chip. (Red colour) How was this removed? It is not replaced, so assume not required? Was it used as a shim/spacer, or to prevent micro-cracks in joints from movement/expansion etc? Not required with lead solder? Other than pressure, is there a shim or method to monitor how much solder is required for correct spec, .or is it 'self leveling' so to speak..will simply flatten out 'flush' when fully heated? -the RSX chip is often done. The other processor is not shown re-balled as much. Is this needed for RSOD etc? Do most shops do both automatically? Realize this is an outdated PS3 post, but like answers for technical interest. TNX
@@Smartzenegger After 6 years i will tell you what he meant. ‘This job takes balls’ The video is a reball video hahaha funny joke man 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is a pretty amazing video. We need more of this kind of advanced level content on youtube. Seems like I would need a lot of broken PS3s to practice with to get right. I suppose in a year's time I start to pay that back. Unless I was just going to do it as a hobby.
+subassy Once you're skilled enough at it to where you don't screw the boards up, it's a great way to make some money for offering it as a service for a cheaper price than others!
Great video. It was one of the best Iv'e seen and able to understand the accent. Nice to see someone that is thorough with their work. Keep it up. Thanks
Interesting technique with the flux. I use Kingbo and then put on Kester liquid after they've seated with the heat wand. I never thought to try liquid first then the tacky flux. I think I may try that and give it a go. Thanks.
Firstly this is a very nice video of how to reball a PS3 correctly... Anyone thinking of doing this then it takes alot of practice and some expensive equipment to do correctly as in the video. New equipment to do this your looking at atleast £1000 on getting a decent bga, then atleast £150 on a decent soldering iron and then around £200 on extras like the chip station,stencils,flux,paste,screw drivers, solder balls etc etc.Or just give it to someone who already does it for £40-£50 a machine lol.
2:17... you would use "Scotch-Weld cleaner spray" to remove thermal paste ;-)... It is better, and the faster way to remove it (you will not need to scratch the chips, or use isopropyl alcohol to clean it then)
Finally, someone that's put up a proper way to fix the YLOD. SMD rework isn't no joke (equipment is extremely expensive, read - over $10K) but worth it if you live in a larger city
I wish I had the patience to do all of this, I blame Sony though for poor manufacturing of the Original PS3 models. Now I don't know whether to get my PS3 fixed...just buy a new 500gb slim model or save some money for the PS4.
What model rework station u have? What settings do u have the rework station on? how long from when u pull the heater onto the chip does the solder melt and read for removal/resolder? what temps? What’s the tool you use to lift the chip after the solder melted?
Not really. Anyone that watches a video and tests on "dead" boards can perfect this "skill". It took me 5 years to finally get this PS3 fixing down. But I started when I was 17
your accent makes this whole process that much more serious. VERY USEFUL and PRECISE info. thanks for the tut. this is the most realistic video i've seen. uses an xbox 360 chip to scrap off old thermal compound "cuz it's soft" AHAHAHAHAHA
Just a tip... the part of the cpu/gpu you take off ( the square shield) doesnt need to be heated up to take off the gray thermal paste in the corners. just use 99% isopropyl , works like a charm in a fraction of the time
400 is still a little cool but it may work. At minimum you should have a stencil to put the balls through. The jig itself is very, very handy for lining it up and keeping it aligned since sometimes the stencil can move without you meaning it to. Check them out on ebay, sometimes they aren't too expensive.
Great video! Thank for showing us how to do this. I plan on fixing mine very soon, as it shuts off after 20 minutes of playing. Runs Netflix fine. Lol.
Hey! Thanks for the upload! When simply reflowing, is it also advisable to remove the heatsink and replace the thermal past on the chip itself, or is it enough to recplace the paste above it? Thanks!
Fair play , a skilled process , ignore the 'too much thermal paste' comments, they're only jealous you can reball and they can't do much more than solder a capacitor.
Thanks for showing reballing in camera. I've never seen one being done and always wandered if it's something impossible to do. I see it's obviously not, it just requires some extra tools that most people don't have, other than that anyone can do it. It's a shame you reballed the same chip though. Most cases of BGA chip damage are inherit to the chip due to internal warp damage and not the solder balls. Well at least you didn't reflow it and tell it works fine that way.
Great video, very informative, I just need to know how you can tell that the chip is aligned properly when you stick it back down? I feel like I would second and third-guess myself
Thanks for the reply. I had read instructions before to spread the paste on the cpu to make even contact and i assumed that it applied to all boards, but i will give your method a try. Thanks for the info on the specs, I will buy all three.
I beg your pardon even though I just started watching this I noticed that there are a lot of towers Crystal Towers seven medium crystals for tall crystals and three short crystals? What would this board be for? Thank you and inquisitive old cowboy.
Hi man that is a hell of a job. I don't even know what are the tools you are using. What I did was replace the thermal paste on top but didn't know there was more thermal pase underneath. That's probably why my ps3 keeps going loud even when i don't play. What do you apply there? What is that white paste?
Yes im totatly with you man i reball myself i know how much it is cost to learn the right way to do it, it need a lot of practice now i domain the process to 100% but i was in this since 4 or 5 year a go (i started with the cheap machine PuHui T862 T862++ BGA but thats a toy!!) now i got the same as you Achi more professional station!!
Awesome tutorial, thanks for the upload IMO,there was too much thermal paste and my OCD went through the roof when you didn't spread the paste on the processor haha few questions, I know u used arctic silver thermal paste but what kind? what kind of flux was that? what kind of cleaner did you use? where do you get them?
We have a debate going about what is the correct amount of thermal conductive paste to use. What you use I believe is correct. Nice thin, no mess>>> I just watched a guy doing some fix on the very same chip on the PS3 with some 250,000 views, and use ten times what you used and called it " ok I have done this five times" . My jaw just dropped :-O
Hey; I just came across this video, I know its a bit old; looked for your website as well and it is no longer an active website....I was wondering if you are still doing PS3 Reballing services as I am in need to repair a PS3. Please let me know how to contact you. Thank you.
Great video! What kind of flux did you use on the board right before resetting the chip? I heard you use Kingbo, and Tacky, but I couldn't understand the 3rd flux you used. Thanks!
Weldon, fantastic job done. You clear each and every thing I wanted to know about reballing. One question, I only have SMD rework station hot air gun; can I do BGA job with that for low scale? Also I would be happy if you give a look to my channel. Regards,
Wow that a lot more work then I would have though. That a tricky CPU to work with. Thank You I enjoyed. You need to speak a little more loudly at times. But good video.
Very good video but unfortunately I have two small complaints, simple one is not very important but the way you apply the thermal compound at the end was kind of weird. But my real issue is my second complaint, you really need to remove the heat spreader for the CPU as well cuz I thermal compound underneath or it's going to go bad sooner or later and you'll end up having to do the same thing all over again for that.
In your opinion, would re-applying thermal paste to the heat spreader without taking the chip off and re-balling do anything for a unit? New to the PS3/electronic troubleshooting. Thanks for your time.
I wish I knew about this before I sold my backward compatible fatty for parts. Did a reflow several times then got tired of doing it. On a good note I just got another working still factory sealed one from the same guy I sold mine for parts that works. Said he hardly used it then stored it in a closet. Will definitely get this service done when it eventually fails. Where are you located just incase?
I ain't quite impressed with your thoroughness young man it is my first time watching you and I am very impressed just an old cowboy trying to learn something new.
Finally, the only good method for reballing. You will find a lot of videos with a bit of reflow titled as "reballing", but this is actually the only one in which the job is done properly!
This is much better than the one I saw of a guy reballing a chip by using a pair of tweezers... Seriously, just buy a mask and jig.
Several Technical Questions:
-when removing the stencil, I assume there is enough flux to hold the balls securely, esp. since you remove the RSX "chip" from the jig.
- Do you reuse RoHS or switch to lead-based solder balls? Mix?
-How well does non RoHS balls bond to the RoHS board and chip pads? I realize your still getting more flexibility with the lead, but do you get joints likely to crack at these points? Temp differential of the 2 different solders perhaps etc?
-your heating iron for the reflowing at the chip install is a press mount? I imagine the pressure applied is critical? too much and it would press the solder out too thin, causing bridges or less thickness? As the balls melt, the space is reduced.
On the factory install, the space has hard adhesive on each corner of the chip. (Red colour) How was this removed? It is not replaced, so assume not required? Was it used as a shim/spacer, or to prevent micro-cracks in joints from movement/expansion etc? Not required with lead solder? Other than pressure, is there a shim or method to monitor how much solder is required for correct spec, .or is it 'self leveling' so to speak..will simply flatten out 'flush' when fully heated?
-the RSX chip is often done. The other processor is not shown re-balled as much. Is this needed for RSOD etc? Do most shops do both automatically?
Realize this is an outdated PS3 post, but like answers for technical interest.
TNX
never had a single answer, sadge
That's one of the best tutorials I have watched in ages. I've learnt so much from it. Thanks.
This job takes balls.
Hah I see what ya did there
I didn't do anything...
I'm just saying this job is pretty ballsy.
I would like spending cash
@@Smartzenegger After 6 years i will tell you what he meant.
‘This job takes balls’
The video is a reball video
hahaha funny joke man 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@MediaVocal What he meant? Who? Is me a he to me?
This is a pretty amazing video. We need more of this kind of advanced level content on youtube.
Seems like I would need a lot of broken PS3s to practice with to get right. I suppose in a year's time I start to pay that back. Unless I was just going to do it as a hobby.
+subassy Once you're skilled enough at it to where you don't screw the boards up, it's a great way to make some money for offering it as a service for a cheaper price than others!
I like how he’s using another chip to scrape of the thermal compound of the rsx
this is killing me
The Xbox 360 Gpu chip
@@Mikes360JTAGSthe only thing it's good for 😂
Great video. It was one of the best Iv'e seen and able to understand the accent. Nice to see someone that is thorough with their work.
Keep it up. Thanks
Interesting technique with the flux. I use Kingbo and then put on Kester liquid after they've seated with the heat wand. I never thought to try liquid first then the tacky flux. I think I may try that and give it a go. Thanks.
16:35 when he did that balling.. wow it blown me away amazing. LOL
Nice precision work. Well done.
Its 2023 and i can't lie, this is the cleanest Reballing video
This guy is a baller
Jorge Valdez no, he's a reballer yo!!! ;b
Firstly this is a very nice video of how to reball a PS3 correctly... Anyone thinking of doing this then it takes alot of practice and some expensive equipment to do correctly as in the video. New equipment to do this your looking at atleast £1000 on getting a decent bga, then atleast £150 on a decent soldering iron and then around £200 on extras like the chip station,stencils,flux,paste,screw drivers, solder balls etc etc.Or just give it to someone who already does it for £40-£50 a machine lol.
I love that our reball technique is the same. Nice job mate, very nice.
I found a kit on Ebay that has all of the stencils/stuff needed for a reball. Think I may give it a try after watching this video.
Thank you.
You do a superb professional work, I would send you my ps3 if I was in the UK.
Finally a solid fix instead of just replacing the tokins
2:17... you would use "Scotch-Weld cleaner spray" to remove thermal paste ;-)... It is better, and the faster way to remove it (you will not need to scratch the chips, or use isopropyl alcohol to clean it then)
The work of a master! Awesome video mate!
I just wish i could understand what he's saying. sigh
this guys knows what he's doing, top work lad
Finally, someone that's put up a proper way to fix the YLOD. SMD rework isn't no joke (equipment is extremely expensive, read - over $10K) but worth it if you live in a larger city
I wish I had the patience to do all of this, I blame Sony though for poor manufacturing of the Original PS3 models. Now I don't know whether to get my PS3 fixed...just buy a new 500gb slim model or save some money for the PS4.
Well, I'm getting mine reballed.
***** More powerful yes but better features no.
What model rework station u have?
What settings do u have the rework station on?
how long from when u pull the heater onto the chip does the solder melt and read for removal/resolder? what temps?
What’s the tool you use to lift the chip after the solder melted?
Wow a lot of work and skill involved in fixing that.
Not really. Anyone that watches a video and tests on "dead" boards can perfect this "skill". It took me 5 years to finally get this PS3 fixing down. But I started when I was 17
You think 5 years of honing a craft isn't a lot of work?
This is one of the best tutorials on BGA work I have seen on Poo Tube. Subscribed!
your accent makes this whole process that much more serious. VERY USEFUL and PRECISE info. thanks for the tut. this is the most realistic video i've seen.
uses an xbox 360 chip to scrap off old thermal compound "cuz it's soft" AHAHAHAHAHA
hello during the desoldering phase how much do you go up in temperature for the RSX to move?
Just a tip... the part of the cpu/gpu you take off ( the square shield) doesnt need to be heated up to take off the gray thermal paste in the corners. just use 99% isopropyl , works like a charm in a fraction of the time
what is the machine you use to heat up the new solder? if you don't have something like that, can a heat gun with a steady hand work?
400 is still a little cool but it may work. At minimum you should have a stencil to put the balls through. The jig itself is very, very handy for lining it up and keeping it aligned since sometimes the stencil can move without you meaning it to. Check them out on ebay, sometimes they aren't too expensive.
Great video! Thank for showing us how to do this. I plan on fixing mine very soon, as it shuts off after 20 minutes of playing. Runs Netflix fine. Lol.
Where do I get all the equipment used in the video to do this? Does the equipment cost a lot and is there a cheaper route?
Very good video, but the amount of thermal paste used was excessive.
Hello, what solder type better use for reball ps3? As I know, Initially sony use lead-free solder (without Pb).
Wow. You are awesome. And you're left handed! Extra cool points!
I have used the artic silver thermal adhesive and the smell is very strong.
I find this video extremely satisfying!
Hey! Thanks for the upload! When simply reflowing, is it also advisable to remove the heatsink and replace the thermal past on the chip itself, or is it enough to recplace the paste above it?
Thanks!
I don't think you know what a heat sink is.
Fair play , a skilled process , ignore the 'too much thermal paste' comments, they're only jealous you can reball and they can't do much more than solder a capacitor.
Thanks for showing reballing in camera. I've never seen one being done and always wandered if it's something impossible to do. I see it's obviously not, it just requires some extra tools that most people don't have, other than that anyone can do it.
It's a shame you reballed the same chip though. Most cases of BGA chip damage are inherit to the chip due to internal warp damage and not the solder balls. Well at least you didn't reflow it and tell it works fine that way.
Thanks mate great video please do more of them :)
Great video, very informative, I just need to know how you can tell that the chip is aligned properly when you stick it back down? I feel like I would second and third-guess myself
Great video, much appreciated. Wish I had that kit now.. (GLOD)
You got skilzzzz!
Thanks for the reply. I had read instructions before to spread the paste on the cpu to make even contact and i assumed that it applied to all boards, but i will give your method a try.
Thanks for the info on the specs, I will buy all three.
Great skill. Appreciated.
16:28 oh that's why it's called re-balling! nice
I beg your pardon even though I just started watching this I noticed that there are a lot of towers Crystal Towers seven medium crystals for tall crystals and three short crystals? What would this board be for? Thank you and inquisitive old cowboy.
Hi man that is a hell of a job. I don't even know what are the tools you are using. What I did was replace the thermal paste on top but didn't know there was more thermal pase underneath. That's probably why my ps3 keeps going loud even when i don't play. What do you apply there? What is that white paste?
How long, and at what temp, do you use to melt the cpu solder for removal?
Awesome and well done video thank you.
nice work man, this is what i have been looking for. So how can someone get the tools you used on this video?
pretty cool! whats the best place to buy those tools my friend?
Yes im totatly with you man i reball myself i know how much it is cost to learn the right way to do it, it need a lot of practice now i domain the process to 100% but i was in this since 4 or 5 year a go (i started with the cheap machine PuHui T862 T862++ BGA but thats a toy!!) now i got the same as you Achi more professional station!!
Hey, Great tutorial, just a quick question tho, what equipment are you using? Preheater, soldering iron, everything. Thanks
thats because you arent supposed to. the heat sink pressing down spreads it and foms a seal
great video , I missed the name of the liquid flux you were using, not the tacky flux.
What a pro, man. Much respect.
Awesome tutorial, thanks for the upload
IMO,there was too much thermal paste and my OCD went through the roof when you didn't spread the paste on the processor haha
few questions,
I know u used arctic silver thermal paste but what kind?
what kind of flux was that?
what kind of cleaner did you use?
where do you get them?
just a tip, you might want to look into arctic silver 5 thermal paste, It last a lot longer than mx-2
Simply amazing job
Great vid, man. What temp do you normally have the soldering iron set to? Also, what kind of paste flux is that?
best ive seen so far but a quick question, what do you all need for this repair? im looking to try this, shoot me an message or reply back
So great! Nice job
Cool guide, thank you!
Where the heck do you get the piece that lets the balls roll into the correct places? The re-balling mold piece... I mean.
This is some serious ps3 repair
Damn, using an Xbox GPU to wipe the shit off the PS3 GPU's shoe was pretty funny.
That's what XBOX GPU is for, basically he was doing a proper use of it xD
What is the glue u used to put back both chips?
7:45 placing the detonator =D
finalmente alguém postando um vídeo que salva o ps3. o problema é que nunca vi aqui no Brasil esse tipo de equipamento. como faço para adquirir um ?
It was all beautiful until you started with the thermal paste:D But good work.
We have a debate going about what is the correct amount of thermal conductive paste to use. What you use I believe is correct. Nice thin, no mess>>> I just watched a guy doing some fix on the very same chip on the PS3 with some 250,000 views, and use ten times what you used and called it " ok I have done this five times" . My jaw just dropped :-O
Hey; I just came across this video, I know its a bit old; looked for your website as well and it is no longer an active website....I was wondering if you are still doing PS3 Reballing services as I am in need to repair a PS3. Please let me know how to contact you. Thank you.
I would like to know what equipment you use
Great video! What kind of flux did you use on the board right before resetting the chip? I heard you use Kingbo, and Tacky, but I couldn't understand the 3rd flux you used. Thanks!
Ryan Taylor Insat flux ;)
how much does it cost to reball the ps3?
id love to fix my ps3 and use it again
thats a northern ireland accent
lisburn to be precise lol
Weldon, fantastic job done. You clear each and every thing I wanted to know about reballing. One question, I only have SMD rework station hot air gun; can I do BGA job with that for low scale? Also I would be happy if you give a look to my channel. Regards,
Wow that a lot more work then I would have though. That a tricky CPU to work with. Thank You I enjoyed. You need to speak a little more loudly at times. But good video.
Tried this and once everything put back together a single beep and nothing worked. 🤷
Well I was worried I'd used too much thermal paste under my Cell and RSX IHS. Not any more I'm not, I used about a third of that...
the video is awesome but without profiles were kind of still guessing why our reballs fail to work
Very good video but unfortunately I have two small complaints, simple one is not very important but the way you apply the thermal compound at the end was kind of weird.
But my real issue is my second complaint, you really need to remove the heat spreader for the CPU as well cuz I thermal compound underneath or it's going to go bad sooner or later and you'll end up having to do the same thing all over again for that.
Nice work man , please can you tell me the speed of the air and the temp that u use in the video , thank you
One question I have, and maybe I missed you saying how, but I didn't see how you went about aligning the GPU on the board.
For the average person trying to fix one YLOD PS3 unit would cost a fortune to buy all of the gear you have. It would be cheaper to buy a fixed one.
In your opinion, would re-applying thermal paste to the heat spreader without taking the chip off and re-balling do anything for a unit? New to the PS3/electronic troubleshooting. Thanks for your time.
Great video! What machine are you using in the tutorial? Thanks!
Very Very informative video Good Job !!!!! THANKS !!!!!
were will i find the guides you mention setting the jig up.. great vids mate.
What kind of tape are using? The Kapton tape does not stick well like yours does in this video,
wow you methode is really work an excellent job do properly well done thank you man
I wish I knew about this before I sold my backward compatible fatty for parts. Did a reflow several times then got tired of doing it. On a good note I just got another working still factory sealed one from the same guy I sold mine for parts that works. Said he hardly used it then stored it in a closet. Will definitely get this service done when it eventually fails. Where are you located just incase?
This looks really like a good fix but sadly I don't have the soldering table and heat gun and that soldering ball mold...=(
Awesome job!
Fuck that just get a new ps3.
Holy s**t how much thermal paste did you put over the RSX and CPU 😱😱😱
what is the name of white glue that you use??
I ain't quite impressed with your thoroughness young man it is my first time watching you and I am very impressed just an old cowboy trying to learn something new.