I love seeing fellow reballers work. I've done business with this guy buying products and always been great. I've been reballing for about 6 yrs now and I can say this is a great job. Keep going, Pro !!
I do not have any PS3's I am trying to fix or anything.. but I just wanted you to know that I appreciate the time and detail you put into this. I do a couple DIY documents myself and I know this can be tedious. Great job!
That was a myth that the gpu solder balls were cracked and therefore caused the YLOD. The problem was not the GPU but the capacitors which were very poorly made, Once you replace these it will fix your YLOD.
@@itza8334 its very rare the rsx solder balls break, but on launch units the rsx was constantly failing due to sony's stupid idea to keep the system quiet rather than cool. The rsx just heats up and kills itself while the fan thinks its fine to run at 80c
This is the most satisfied video I saw so far man keep doing your work with this quality every step was 100% right and please don't care about this bad comment from other people's about how much thermo you should apply with PS3 special this fat model you need to apply alot of amounts because the size of CPU &GPU heatsink. Nice job I really like it
This video is kind of relaxing and satisfying, very professional work, didnt expect less from dutch people they really are good at this kind of thing, I lived in den haag for a year and was amazed very nice country, great education , many technological marvels going on there, and the coffeshops well what can i say I Had a great time over there.
Very very nice repairing, clean, beautiful, gentle, careful and totally real professional, god bless you, i wish i could give my fat PS3 to you for repair and services
Bugger me..It works..Considering I bought a ps3 off ebay for £3.00 (condition not working) I think I did well.Excellent video straight to the point.Have a like and subscribe mate.!!
I still have my original 60G PS3 fat in cryo, awaiting the day I can bring it back to life... you sir are from the future. An artist and your canvas is a circuit board... BRAVO!!!
You can send it to : ProConsoles Glenn Millerweg 4 1311RS Almere The Netherlands Please always enclose return address, email address and cell phone number. The price for a reball of the GPU will cost 75 Euro. What kind of problem do you have ?
If only ps3s didn't have intigrated heat spreaders, with low quality thermal paste under them. And bad NEC/TOKIN capacitors, Many more would have been alive today... RIP lol.
my ps3 slim is still alive and it is cfw capable but ive installed hfw instead because i dont wanna mess up my console, i set my fan at 43% the temps are 60°c ( cpu ) and 64°c ( gpu ) while playing the last of us
First off amazing work, you are truly talented. God the fortune I would pay to do this to my 3 original PS3's. Just need to hope the YLOD doesn't come anytime soon
Actually 256 players online you are short 156 players get your comments straight before you post them cause you don’t know what you are talking about 😂
that ps2 chip had alot to do with the $600 price, and now that the architecture has changed from the ps4/ps5 being strictly PC based, the original ps3 is a grail
@@XoleumYT What about that metal block that goes over the ship, what is it? And can i do a reball without that piece of machinery-I mean with just a reballing station?
@@thingshappen9199 I'm guessing you're referring to the BGA chip stencil, that's used to position the balls correctly. You could reball without it but that would be very time consuming and prone to causing solder bridges.
@@thingshappen9199 Oh, I think that's just part of the BGA rework station, it's used for heating it up and melting the solder, there is often another heating it from the bottom. Some rework station also use something similar to position the chip correctly and hold it in place, if you search for "linus reballing" here on youtube, you'll see one of those in action.
Its design was terrible. It looked horrible and the ram held it back. There were many many games that came out with lots of problems that weren't present on pc or Xbox. There's a whole documentary about the ram and how it really did hold it back and Xbox used a different style of ram which made it super easy for developers to make games.
@@packlesswolf1 RAM is faster and has more bandwidth than the Xbox360. That one needed the edram to offset the bottleneck of unified RAM, only 128 bit for both CPU and GPU.
12:52 i remember back from metal shop my instructor would always yell...DON'T FORGET THE FLUCKS (flux) XD. One of the rare few high school teachers i liked :). Most of them were so crazy and annoying.
+ProConsoles Yeah, he was very passionate :). A bit too passionate for wielding though. We would fireup the torches and bring in the acetylene-oxygen. As you may imagine the resulting blue flame is EXTREMELY hot. Sometimes our project were dictated by very small tolerances so my hands were typically positioned very close to the flaming hot neck of the torch to restrict vibration or movement. It sure was scary. I should add our coveralls were all flammable lol. You have to get it within the tolerance or else he voids the project...
Very Nice work, my respect! Thats the way i like to see that all, Nice and Clean, all great, just the Thermal Coumpond was to much, and the IHS you could replace it next time first on the Cooler it self :) Best Regards
+UltraNSC Yes, I know about the amount of thermal compound and I use much less nowadays. What do you mean exactly with "IHS you could replace it next time first on the Cooler it self" ? Also after I have removed the IHS from CPU and GPU, I dry the motherboard for 4 hours at 100C to get rid of most of the moisture in the motherboard. Want to buy the Ecocell 55, but still pretty expensive. I do see, that nowadays I do so many things differently and better, especially when cleaning the motherboard with desoldering bread. I only move in 1 direction and much smoother then in the video. Need to make a new one soon..... When you have done a lot of reballs, the focus is always at which tasks can go wrong, which task has the biggest influence on the end result. What can go wrong : - When lifting the chip you do not want to damage the GPU, so my profile is totally focussed on keeping the temperature of the RAM chips as low as possible. Right now I am in a very safe area of lifting the GPU. Chance of damaging it when lifting it, is right now maybe 1% maximally. Maybe it is in practise much lower. - When cleaning the motherboard, you do not want to lift pads or damage the green solder mask. From experience I can tell that the first pads to lift, are the support pads with no connection. Nowadays the change on lifting critical pads is maybe also much lower then 1%, maybe in practise 1 out of 500. When green solder mask is damaged, I simply repair that with green UV solder mask. Key succes to a very good reball when soldering back the GPU is: - high quality solder balls, leaded eutectic with a melting point of 183.3C - right TAL time and temperature (215C and 20-40 seconds) - right amount gel flux (Amtech 559, the original one). 95% on the market is fake ! - activating time of flux which is long enough - preaheating time of board which is long enough - experience (I believe I have more then 5 years of ps3 reballing experience)
Hi, sorry for not replying earlier, it was a long time ago that you responded to me, and 1 thing I would like to comment on. You said : "the IHS you could replace it next time first on the Cooler it self". Yesterday I did that for the first time, and actually that is not the best way. I measured a temperature on the GPU and CPU, which is then 2C and 4C higher. I think this is because the cores of the chips is about 1/4th of the size of the IHS, and it is more important that the layer of thermal compound, is as thin as possible between the cores of the chips, and the IHS. For this test, I used MX-4 for all 4 locations. So conclusion: It is best to put the IHS on the chips first, and not first on the cooler itself.
Ok but what heat profile would some use if they were using an air gun and a preheating table to recall a ps3 or 4 that has never been reworked before? Some people tell me 100C for as much as an hour, my cousin told me 100-115 C for 20 minutes then start the air gun at 250 C until I can nudge it. I've tried bolth more than one and I can stop pulling pads even when I do get the chip to lift. What I'm asking what times temps should I use to lift these chips right? Bare in mind I only have a cheap air gun. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I recommend never to use a hot air gun (paint stripper) because you do not have a lot of control of the temperature, coming out the nozzle. It is very important that you also use thermocouples to measure the temperatures.
I have started to repair these consoles by light of death with reballing and a professional rework machine, the work is very similar to that of the video, and the truth is that I can only see how long these repairs last with the reballing method without heating the chip too much, we will also see if it works with the ps5 with this method
Don't reball them man. It's a capacitor issue. The NEC/Tokin capacitors are prone to issues. Toshiba laptops at one point used the same capacitors and had the same issues. The reason why reballing appears to work is because the heat temporarily gets the capacitors working again. NSC Modz has good videos on how to do them
Great job, Any details on tools used, thermal compound, flux etc., used . Brand name will help. Also, what is the strip that you are using @14:42. and the translucent paste you have used..
Recently it has been proven that the NEC Tokin capacitors are what causes the ylod 90% of the time. Not to put you out of business or screw you over or anything but this console probably broke down again like a week or a couple months later. Sometimes the heat can boost the life of the caps.
@@g4mer-d3v1l5 There is a tutorial on psx palace. www.psx-place.com/threads/tutorial-nec-tokin-capacitors-replacement-ylod-fix.25260/ Also may I suggest wating My Mate Vince's version too as it helped me do mine.
Hello, I know this video is 6 years old but can you list the tools and equipment used in this video? Especially the reballing station. I would appreciate it. Great video and very informative process. Thank you!!!
Most of the time its the capacitors. They changed the caps on the slim model and it fixed the capacitor related ylod. I know its the caps, because when i heat them up with a hair dryer (it doesnt get hot enough to melt solder) it fixes it... For some time...
@@denizkilic6022 Is there a video about that? Although I have a PS3 Slim, I still have my original PS3 which got YLOD. Would still like to be able to fix it and maybe give it to a friend of mine, so he can enjoy the PS3 games aswell.
@@denizkilic6022 Have done soldering when I was in high-school. Was pretty good at it then, so hopefully it's something you don't loose. It's finding all the stuff that is needed, that is going to be a problem, because I don't have any tools and such (unless I can borrow stuff).
For such a labor intensive job I fail to understand the cost effectiveness in doing this. Your labor and the equipment alone does not justify the customer spending that kind of money for something like this. I would suspect the chip going bad before I would a soldering job and why would anyone go through this process without at least changing the chips out? You did an excellent job on both the Video and work...
Awesome video, I spent every second viewing it over and over, I would like to ask if you don't mind, what's the brand and model of the rework station you using in this video? I really liked it. Keep it up.
you have to reflow this chip with the same result, its like amd gpu where the problem is between crystal and body of chip, just reflow it with flux to 215 degree. p.s. secret from russia
Great Video, but what i did not understand is, how the solder balls did stick on the device after removing the themplate from the device. I mean: What did you apply first withe cotton swab and then with your fingers on the device before puting the Template on and strew the solder balls over it? (@ 22:50)
It looks like he cleaned off the processor then applied a small or thin coat of flux to those contacts which held the balls in place until he could then apply some heat to melt them slightly in order to stick permanently. The next step was to reinstall the processor on to the motherboard with balls attached. At least this is what I picked up. I think.
Great video - but we now know that PS3 YLOD is caused by the NEC/TOKIN caps sitting right next to the GPU... and the heat from rework GPU causes them to work for a bit longer.
Can any of you guess what the most expensive part was in these original PS3s. Nope not the CPU not the GPU not the motherboard or the power supply. It was the Blu Ray drive believe it or not. I found that crazy too but Blu Ray was new tech at the time so I can see why. It cost 300 dollars per system to install a Blu Ray drive that’s like a price of an entire PS4 roughly.
Amazing to watch this video, sad to see I would not be able to this myself, amazing again to see the PS3 language is in Dutch, and to find out in the comments you are indeed also a dutchie! I don't think PS3 is worth it anymore to put in this much effort/time/material to fix them, but damn 💙 you have my respect
i have a good lot of good ps3 games and don't like the industry is going, so i sent my ps3 for reballing, i value more give him a extended life then throw money at unfinished and microtransaction pestered games.
That has nothing to do with the mindset of the western side of the world. That is the mindset of actually everybody, who has a limited amount of money.
ProConsoles The Netherlands I’m one of those that would fix anything because certain items merit the repair. But some folks prefer to trash anything to avoid a repair and the individuals that collect those items turn it around and make some money, and it’s all good. I’ve benefited from that mindset but in my opinion, it’s common just to trash and move on. As far of your skills to repair, I am no match nor hate what you try to do because I am on your side.✌️
Could the same approach (besides removing the lid) be used for the CPU? Could you tell us more about what flux you used? Most of mine are liquid or heavy paste. Your's appeared to be somewhere in between. Could you tell us what solder ball size to get? Any info would be welcome. Just very interested in attempting this. Fantastic video.
John Doe this machine costs around 5-10k$. You can get it cheaper, for like 1k, but I’m not sure if it will work with dyes of this size, also it will be a nightmare to align without proper tools on the tool (yeah English is not my native language sorry, none is actually :)) Anyway, those are expensive but can quickly cover themselves. And also tools are usually very good at keeping cost on aftermarket.
@@Unexpectedstuff I still can't understand why they solder pieces together than rather create a mechanical bond like pins and sockets. It's frustrating!
Didn't need to go through all this trouble. I would've given you my perfectly working PS3 for a PS5 anyway, even throw in some games. You get a working PS3 with games, save your time and I wouldn't complain either. That's what I call a win win.
HI you use a lot of components (alcohol, flux, wire and braided wire) can you please tell what you use exactly in which moment. Will be nice if you could write time and the component. Thank you.
The processors will become more hot, compared to slim and superslim models. But.............. I have seen many situations, where a ps3 superslim could not read GTA 5. Simply the laser was not good enough to read GTA V, this wasn't because the laser was worn out, also have seen this on many new ps3 superslims with new GTA V's. Same game could be played fine on earlier ps3 models.
For microsoft the solder was the issue, not for sony. For sony it was the nec tokin capacitors, and occasionally the rsx failing, but a reball won't permanently fix a dead chip. And before you ask why reballing temporarily fixes the ps3, you have to consider that you can't just heat a motherboard and expect the heat to go to just one area. It heats the whole board, and can fix the nec caps. Plus there is no evidence that solder was ever the issue, as the ps3 doesn't get nearly hot enough for the solder to crack.
So at 31:24 you're adding a thermal paste into the CPU inside the CPU lid (if that even makes sense to say) I have seen others put something that likes like mercury on them. Does it matter what kind of thermal paste you use in the chips inside the lid? Does it apply to both CPU and GPU?
Hi friend, SMT whole line equipments are all available by us, are you interested in that?(pick and place machine, AOI, reflow machine, Loader and unloader etc. )
The first few models of Playstation 3 had a problem where if you tried to turn it on it would just show a yellow light and not turn on. The source of the problem was the solder between the processor and the motherboard cracking due to extreme temperature changes. The little spots you see when he takes off the chip are all solder points, electricity has to run through them for the processor to communicate with the motherboard. He then cleans them, puts fresh solder material, and then reconnects the processor to the motherboard. Solder needs to be heated to transform from solid state to liquid, and the paste he puts on their is called Flux and it helps conduct heat to better melt the solder. Now you might be thinking "why not just buy another PS3 without this problem?" the thing is the models that had this problem are highly desirable due to basically having an entire PS2 inside. They are considered pretty much the best way to play PS2 games on a modern TV with HDMI.
@@SmileOverlord thanks my dude your my MVP!! I wanted that model but I was gonna settle for a super slim even though it doesn't play PS2 games, I've seen vid's on how the original PS3 had problems and had a short life span, I didn't know there was a solution of this magnitude. This video was cool to watch, I've watch alot of vid's with consoles and carts being fixed threw soldering, but this one was so different and I loved it! Like I said thanks my G I really appreciate you!✌👍👍✌
Someone know which compound was used to fix RSX "cap" back to RSX BGA? Thermal paste OK, Flux OK, wolder wick OK... but I do not know which compound I should use there.
great video no stupid music playing in the background
asmr
Гомоснек
KC or oven ffs
Audio little out of sync but it was was still manageable to watch
Nerd/geek asmr
I love seeing fellow reballers work. I've done business with this guy buying products and always been great. I've been reballing for about 6 yrs now and I can say this is a great job. Keep going, Pro !!
Do you yourself offer reballing services? If so, I'd like to hit you up and sort something out.
@@JumpSuitAscended Did you get it sorted out?
What would you charge for this and a full cleaning on a Japanese slim?
I do not have any PS3's I am trying to fix or anything.. but I just wanted you to know that I appreciate the time and detail you put into this. I do a couple DIY documents myself and I know this can be tedious.
Great job!
Thanks, maybe I am going to make more video's soon.
@@proconsoles_nl geez 5 days ago?
ruclips.net/video/5QJ8R-iFPPQ/видео.html
if have passion for this job, is not tedious
@@reballtv no one understands your crap
that moment when you thought it was gonna be a paper towel and isopropyl alcohol tutorial -_-
This is your daily dose of Recommendation
How to fix Yellow LED of death, GPU reballing.
That was a myth that the gpu solder balls were cracked and therefore caused the YLOD. The problem was not the GPU but the capacitors which were very poorly made, Once you replace these it will fix your YLOD.
@@itza8334 everyone just kinda jumped on "solderballs bad" granted over time now its more evident what went wrong. Aye
@@itza8334 its very rare the rsx solder balls break, but on launch units the rsx was constantly failing due to sony's stupid idea to keep the system quiet rather than cool. The rsx just heats up and kills itself while the fan thinks its fine to run at 80c
Fernanfloo eres tu?
Mr Boombastic Any recommended guide or video?
Ultimate effort. No extra sound. Only well shown all the process
This is the most satisfied video I saw so far man keep doing your work with this quality every step was 100% right and please don't care about this bad comment from other people's about how much thermo you should apply with PS3 special this fat model you need to apply alot of amounts because the size of CPU &GPU heatsink. Nice job I really like it
Wow when you have correct tools and the skills how simple it looks.
Fantastic and a perfect job 👍
Ugh, this thing looks like a nightmare to tear down.
It is, put the mobo in the oven tho fixed it and then sold it to a shop to get a new one, they were none the wiser 😂
It actually isn’t. I took my apart a few times back when I had one.
It's a bit tricky. Not too bad, but I remember being a bit lost when I first took one apart.
@@qharperharper don’t take the ps5 apart you might blow up 😅
not realy
Damn I would trust him if he had a shop fixing consoles
The sounds on this video are pure ASMR!
Creep
This helped me sleeping well once and here am I again to see what was really happening here
Yeah, but the parts that were desynced from the video are killing me
Raven yeah lol
Out of sync though...
This video is kind of relaxing and satisfying, very professional work, didnt expect less from dutch people they really are good at this kind of thing, I lived in den haag for a year and was amazed very nice country, great education , many technological marvels going on there, and the coffeshops well what can i say I Had a great time over there.
Very nice to hear, made me smile :-) Where are you from originally ?
ProConsoles im from México I live in the Maya Riviera :p
Hey Holland,
Any chance you could show us replacing the nec-token capacitors with tantalum capacitors.
Pretty much a guaranteed fix for YLOD.
That would never fix a ylod. UPDATE : In the meanwhile I discovered that replacing NEC Tokins, also fixes an YLOD :-) I learned.
@@proconsoles_nl I would highly recommend reading this:
www.psx-place.com/threads/tutorial-nec-tokin-capacitors-replacement-ylod-fix.25260/
@@proconsoles_nl Those capacitors are a big reason for YLOD on ps3's that are properly maintained.
@@XxUltimateGodzXx nah brother sooner or later it will get ylod again
@@eryavrilio3751 Replace the caps, keep the temps down, and the only failure will be from the psu after many years.
Very very nice repairing, clean, beautiful, gentle, careful and totally real professional, god bless you, i wish i could give my fat PS3 to you for repair and services
Bugger me..It works..Considering I bought a ps3 off ebay for £3.00 (condition not working) I think I did well.Excellent video straight to the point.Have a like and subscribe mate.!!
Hey so did you use the method shown here? Also it says your comment is from two years ago. Is your PS3 still functioning?
@@shanetoumey2835 yes it is working
Shane Toumey it is only working method. It is Basically the same process that dyes undergo while manufacturing.
I still have my original 60G PS3 fat in cryo, awaiting the day I can bring it back to life... you sir are from the future. An artist and your canvas is a circuit board... BRAVO!!!
You can send it to :
ProConsoles
Glenn Millerweg 4
1311RS Almere
The Netherlands
Please always enclose return address, email address and cell phone number. The price for a reball of the GPU will cost 75 Euro. What kind of problem do you have ?
@@proconsoles_nl will this remove yellow light if death
@@ShadowMods221 YLOD could be caused by faulty TOKIN chips, not the GPU
@@onekickrick well is the nec token Capacitors but it happeneds more on fat ps3s
If only ps3s didn't have intigrated heat spreaders, with low quality thermal paste under them. And bad NEC/TOKIN capacitors, Many more would have been alive today... RIP lol.
Now the PS5 has liquid metal
@@DSCKottawa nah brah that'll be fine LOL
my ps3 slim is still alive and it is cfw capable but ive installed hfw instead because i dont wanna mess up my console, i set my fan at 43% the temps are 60°c ( cpu ) and 64°c ( gpu ) while playing the last of us
Kudos!!!! Awesome precision in all the work! Thanks for sharing. All the best to you for the future.
Well… now that I know how it’s supposed to be done… let’s see if I can half do it.. because I know I can’t do that.
First off amazing work, you are truly talented. God the fortune I would pay to do this to my 3 original PS3's. Just need to hope the YLOD doesn't come anytime soon
the best video about console reballing !!! The master-hand is perfect
Wish I could send my ps3 to you sir for a fix up. Excellent work on that one though.
Paton Nzimande mee too.
@@cineastasolaris replace the nec tokin caps
Replace the nec tokin caps
As an addition to the very neatly performed/documented repair, this video is so relaxing to watch :)). 😉😊
Bravo this was a pleasure to watch! This is an ART! However, doing this is NOT worth all this effort! Spectacular job never the less!
Not worth the effort? Whatever do you mean?
Like a '87 firebird i guess.
It actually is. Kinda like people restore old cars. Yes, they may not be as advanced as today's cars, but they have sentimental value.
Who's here after the PS5 teardown video ?
I'm so glad companies are making things easier to take apart now.
@@tekgeekster mee😂
More like a laptop tear down.
I was curious to know what is inside the other consoles
Not me
I still can’t believe this thing cost $600 lmao 😂 also any remember MAG Game? It was 100 players online shooter ! Good old days !
Actually 256 players online you are short 156 players get your comments straight before you post them cause you don’t know what you are talking about 😂
@@FredEFuego 😂😂😂 SHUT THE FAWK UP 😂😂😂
$600 for what it can still do was worth it to this day you can play PS1/2/3, blu ray movies ,some streaming apps still works & free online
that ps2 chip had alot to do with the $600 price, and now that the architecture has changed from the ps4/ps5 being strictly PC based, the original ps3 is a grail
$774.96 today (2020) if you account for inflation. Still worth it.
Why is this so satisfying and relaxing to watch
it isnt
This is so far beyond my skill level
its far beyond his skill level too lol no way he got that on square a machine does that with a laser and it cant be done by a human
@@thedevil5544 well you would know
@@Greenchrysopsaro he does have a point
Like in KOTOR or something...? Lol
The ultimate factory reset! Lol
Cool video! Amazing job. 🙂 Thank you!
Hi, at 14:20 what is the name of that mop like tool which you use to heat the solder braid with?
Seems to have multiple names, but the most common name seems to be a (flat) blade tip/cartridge
@@XoleumYT What about that metal block that goes over the ship, what is it? And can i do a reball without that piece of machinery-I mean with just a reballing station?
@@thingshappen9199 I'm guessing you're referring to the BGA chip stencil, that's used to position the balls correctly. You could reball without it but that would be very time consuming and prone to causing solder bridges.
@@XoleumYT no, look at 11:20 it beeps at some points and has the Japanese text engravings.
@@thingshappen9199 Oh, I think that's just part of the BGA rework station, it's used for heating it up and melting the solder, there is often another heating it from the bottom.
Some rework station also use something similar to position the chip correctly and hold it in place, if you search for "linus reballing" here on youtube, you'll see one of those in action.
So that's all that needs to be done. Some special tools, diligence. Them solder balls and template! This guy is set up for this repair
14:35 is so satisfying even tho I don't know wtf is going on
He's cleaning or flattening the chip connectors by removing the left over lead. Necessary before re-balling.
So I want to know what is that station with the crazy cool hot air gun setup can you send links and or make a video about it?
I wish Sony still produced PS3s. I want a brand new one :
Same but with PS2
Rip PS3 2006-2017
10/10 excellent work without any music in background
PS3 had great hardware packed together.. marvel of engineering
Hench the dying PS3s. Nothing great about a bad design or manufacturer.
Its design was terrible. It looked horrible and the ram held it back. There were many many games that came out with lots of problems that weren't present on pc or Xbox. There's a whole documentary about the ram and how it really did hold it back and Xbox used a different style of ram which made it super easy for developers to make games.
Xbox 360 is more powerful than that...
@@danielcpierrem hahahaha yeah ok shitboxer
@@packlesswolf1 RAM is faster and has more bandwidth than the Xbox360. That one needed the edram to offset the bottleneck of unified RAM, only 128 bit for both CPU and GPU.
Damn pretty awesome that you made this ps3 baller again all it needs is some chains.
NEC/Tokins!!! Every time it's rarely ever the RSX or CELL
@aialol aiolol yeah I have a Toshiba Satellite Pro A300 in my collection (two but only one has the tokin) and its still alive
@aialol aiolol I own a fat and a slim and surprisingly the fat runs great but the slim is dead
Idk wtf u doin but just the skill alone had me like and subscribe
Why is this recommended to me in 2020?
Same here
Have you watched the ps5 teardown videos or anything related to ps5. The algorithm knows all!
Same
If that was release back then, maybe I'd have a chance at fixing my ps3.. Still thanks for the vid!
I still hav my PS3 in 2020
Netjes, tijdens het kijken dacht ik, dat kunnen ze alleen in China, tot dat ik de Nederlandse boot tekst zag.
It is like asmr just watching it annoys me with the delay in audio.
I'm curious about your methods used, do you ever detail the desoldering and the soder balls template? Fascinating
Is it just me or is the audio delayed by like a second or two?
I noticed too :D
Same
"At what temperature can I clean the PCB pads without damaging them?"
12:52 i remember back from metal shop my instructor would always yell...DON'T FORGET THE FLUCKS (flux) XD. One of the rare few high school teachers i liked :). Most of them were so crazy and annoying.
+Hi im Ish I also liked the more passionate teachers.
+ProConsoles Yeah, he was very passionate :). A bit too passionate for wielding though. We would fireup the torches and bring in the acetylene-oxygen. As you may imagine the resulting blue flame is EXTREMELY hot. Sometimes our project were dictated by very small tolerances so my hands were typically positioned very close to the flaming hot neck of the torch to restrict vibration or movement. It sure was scary. I should add our coveralls were all flammable lol. You have to get it within the tolerance or else he voids the project...
すごい丁寧で完璧な修理でした！
2015年時点でもペイするのか心配になるくらい。
I hope I’m not the only one who feels overwhelmed
Awesome video. Excellent example of Patience and professional work
Very Nice work, my respect! Thats the way i like to see that all, Nice and Clean, all great, just the Thermal Coumpond was to much, and the IHS you could replace it next time first on the Cooler it self :) Best Regards
+UltraNSC Yes, I know about the amount of thermal compound and I use much less nowadays. What do you mean exactly with "IHS you could replace it next time first on the Cooler it self" ? Also after I have removed the IHS from CPU and GPU, I dry the motherboard for 4 hours at 100C to get rid of most of the moisture in the motherboard. Want to buy the Ecocell 55, but still pretty expensive.
I do see, that nowadays I do so many things differently and better, especially when cleaning the motherboard with desoldering bread. I only move in 1 direction and much smoother then in the video. Need to make a new one soon.....
When you have done a lot of reballs, the focus is always at which tasks can go wrong, which task has the biggest influence on the end result.
What can go wrong :
- When lifting the chip you do not want to damage the GPU, so my profile is totally focussed on keeping the temperature of the RAM chips as low as possible. Right now I am in a very safe area of lifting the GPU. Chance of damaging it when lifting it, is right now maybe 1% maximally. Maybe it is in practise much lower.
- When cleaning the motherboard, you do not want to lift pads or damage the green solder mask. From experience I can tell that the first pads to lift, are the support pads with no connection. Nowadays the change on lifting critical pads is maybe also much lower then 1%, maybe in practise 1 out of 500.
When green solder mask is damaged, I simply repair that with green UV solder mask.
Key succes to a very good reball when soldering back the GPU is:
- high quality solder balls, leaded eutectic with a melting point of 183.3C
- right TAL time and temperature (215C and 20-40 seconds)
- right amount gel flux (Amtech 559, the original one). 95% on the market is fake !
- activating time of flux which is long enough
- preaheating time of board which is long enough
- experience (I believe I have more then 5 years of ps3 reballing experience)
Hi, sorry for not replying earlier, it was a long time ago that you responded to me, and 1 thing I would like to comment on. You said : "the IHS you could replace it next time first on the Cooler it self". Yesterday I did that for the first time, and actually that is not the best way. I measured a temperature on the GPU and CPU, which is then 2C and 4C higher. I think this is because the cores of the chips is about 1/4th of the size of the IHS, and it is more important that the layer of thermal compound, is as thin as possible between the cores of the chips, and the IHS. For this test, I used MX-4 for all 4 locations. So conclusion: It is best to put the IHS on the chips first, and not first on the cooler itself.
Ok but what heat profile would some use if they were using an air gun and a preheating table to recall a ps3 or 4 that has never been reworked before? Some people tell me 100C for as much as an hour, my cousin told me 100-115 C for 20 minutes then start the air gun at 250 C until I can nudge it. I've tried bolth more than one and I can stop pulling pads even when I do get the chip to lift. What I'm asking what times temps should I use to lift these chips right? Bare in mind I only have a cheap air gun. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UltraNS
I recommend never to use a hot air gun (paint stripper) because you do not have a lot of control of the temperature, coming out the nozzle. It is very important that you also use thermocouples to measure the temperatures.
I have started to repair these consoles by light of death with reballing and a professional rework machine, the work is very similar to that of the video, and the truth is that I can only see how long these repairs last with the reballing method without heating the chip too much, we will also see if it works with the ps5 with this method
Don't reball them man. It's a capacitor issue. The NEC/Tokin capacitors are prone to issues. Toshiba laptops at one point used the same capacitors and had the same issues. The reason why reballing appears to work is because the heat temporarily gets the capacitors working again. NSC Modz has good videos on how to do them
It’s amazing how this could be done and how well you do it! wow!
Where you pick up that deal to help put the solder balls in place? 23:25
Great job, Any details on tools used, thermal compound, flux etc., used . Brand name will help. Also, what is the strip that you are using @14:42. and the translucent paste you have used..
It's called "Solder Wick" lol. Although I am sure you figured that out 2 years later
Rohan Khosa glad to see it’s not just me watching this in 2020 hahah
2:20 - What is that blower thing called?
Can you post a list of parts, the grill-like thing to arrange the balls, and the flux you used?
Recently it has been proven that the NEC Tokin capacitors are what causes the ylod 90% of the time. Not to put you out of business or screw you over or anything but this console probably broke down again like a week or a couple months later. Sometimes the heat can boost the life of the caps.
Hi I have a question... do you know what compound he used under IHS in 31:27 (I just don't know).
Any video on this for future purposes lol in case it happens to my fat ps3.
@@ogrenietis8864 Thermal glue? Thermal silicone? I believe that is the right term?
@@g4mer-d3v1l5 There is a tutorial on psx palace. www.psx-place.com/threads/tutorial-nec-tokin-capacitors-replacement-ylod-fix.25260/ Also may I suggest wating My Mate Vince's version too as it helped me do mine.
@@RonyIsaPony Thank you for helping me. Will bet trying Soon this method!
I like your agility hands , you know how to work great
Very accurate
Thanks!
If you blow a hair dryer with hot air on warranty stickers you can remove them and replace them. You didn't have to cut it.
warranty stickers do not void the warranty anyway.
Hello, I know this video is 6 years old but can you list the tools and equipment used in this video? Especially the reballing station. I would appreciate it.
Great video and very informative process. Thank you!!!
Yea no problem-Darude Sandstorm
Could be easy when you have the correct tools and skill!! Great video!!
Great video!
Tip: you can make a similar video in less time if you record the process of breaking a PS3 and then reverse the video!
no complaints, love to have my ps3 done. hint hint, your work looks great, like to have whole game gone thought,jailbroke/modded/
I got 3 Jailbroken slims that I bought to mod and resell then never posted them Lol
Good method of cleaning the PAD.
You can tell me that soldering tip use?
Thank
I've read reballing is kinda myth; I mean, it works randomly but many reballed systems experience the same failure after time of using it again
It helps but it's usually the nec capacitors. I'm thinking of replacing mine tbh
Most of the time its the capacitors. They changed the caps on the slim model and it fixed the capacitor related ylod. I know its the caps, because when i heat them up with a hair dryer (it doesnt get hot enough to melt solder) it fixes it... For some time...
@@denizkilic6022 Is there a video about that? Although I have a PS3 Slim, I still have my original PS3 which got YLOD. Would still like to be able to fix it and maybe give it to a friend of mine, so he can enjoy the PS3 games aswell.
@@JustAnotherGamer1005 MyMateVINCE has a video about replacing the nec/tokin's. You will need soldering skills though.
@@denizkilic6022 Have done soldering when I was in high-school. Was pretty good at it then, so hopefully it's something you don't loose. It's finding all the stuff that is needed, that is going to be a problem, because I don't have any tools and such (unless I can borrow stuff).
Have you ever done the frankenstein mod ?
again, as a learner, please share knowledge on temperature setting for hot air? Preheat? Temperature probe to what max temp? What flux do you use?
I back getting some tips and answers please
For such a labor intensive job I fail to understand the cost effectiveness in doing this. Your labor and the equipment alone does not justify the customer spending that kind of money for something like this. I would suspect the chip going bad before I would a soldering job and why would anyone go through this process without at least changing the chips out? You did an excellent job on both the Video and work...
Awesome video, I spent every second viewing it over and over, I would like to ask if you don't mind, what's the brand and model of the rework station you using in this video? I really liked it. Keep it up.
Very great production lines.
Any needs on conformal High Power High Voltage on UV Curing Coating Powers?
you have to reflow this chip with the same result, its like amd gpu where the problem is between crystal and body of chip, just reflow it with flux to 215 degree. p.s. secret from russia
Great Video, but what i did not understand is, how the solder balls did stick on the device after removing the themplate from the device. I mean: What did you apply first withe cotton swab and then with your fingers on the device before puting the Template on and strew the solder balls over it? (@ 22:50)
It looks like he cleaned off the processor then applied a small or thin coat of flux to those contacts which held the balls in place until he could then apply some heat to melt them slightly in order to stick permanently. The next step was to reinstall the processor on to the motherboard with balls attached. At least this is what I picked up. I think.
Great video - but we now know that PS3 YLOD is caused by the NEC/TOKIN caps sitting right next to the GPU... and the heat from rework GPU causes them to work for a bit longer.
Can any of you guess what the most expensive part was in these original PS3s. Nope not the CPU not the GPU not the motherboard or the power supply. It was the Blu Ray drive believe it or not. I found that crazy too but Blu Ray was new tech at the time so I can see why. It cost 300 dollars per system to install a Blu Ray drive that’s like a price of an entire PS4 roughly.
My first PS3 was from Japan and was my first Bluray player.
It was because the manufacturing yeild of Blu ray diodes was poor at the beginning - this is why Blu ray drives were expensive at the beginning
Amazing to watch this video, sad to see I would not be able to this myself, amazing again to see the PS3 language is in Dutch, and to find out in the comments you are indeed also a dutchie!
I don't think PS3 is worth it anymore to put in this much effort/time/material to fix them, but damn 💙 you have my respect
they are worth repairing as it had some exclusive games, which the ps4 cant play because sony made a balls of it with no backwards compatability
@@davidwhitley5659 letting someone else fix this would be too much for a casual gamer as myself. But the video is still amazing
i have a good lot of good ps3 games and don't like the industry is going, so i sent my ps3 for reballing, i value more give him a extended life then throw money at unfinished and microtransaction pestered games.
can you tell me the solder irons you are using in this video and spatula tip
31:27 Is this thermal paste?
Is nut
professional repairing job ,salute.
With all the tools and time invested, three ps3’s could be purchased; well that’s the mindset in the western side of the world. Good tutorial👌
That has nothing to do with the mindset of the western side of the world. That is the mindset of actually everybody, who has a limited amount of money.
ProConsoles The Netherlands I’m one of those that would fix anything because certain items merit the repair. But some folks prefer to trash anything to avoid a repair and the individuals that collect those items turn it around and make some money, and it’s all good. I’ve benefited from that mindset but in my opinion, it’s common just to trash and move on.
As far of your skills to repair, I am no match nor hate what you try to do because I am on your side.✌️
Could the same approach (besides removing the lid) be used for the CPU? Could you tell us more about what flux you used? Most of mine are liquid or heavy paste. Your's appeared to be somewhere in between. Could you tell us what solder ball size to get? Any info would be welcome. Just very interested in attempting this. Fantastic video.
The price of this entire operation?
John Doe this machine costs around 5-10k$. You can get it cheaper, for like 1k, but I’m not sure if it will work with dyes of this size, also it will be a nightmare to align without proper tools on the tool (yeah English is not my native language sorry, none is actually :))
Anyway, those are expensive but can quickly cover themselves. And also tools are usually very good at keeping cost on aftermarket.
@@Unexpectedstuff I still can't understand why they solder pieces together than rather create a mechanical bond like pins and sockets. It's frustrating!
@@JohnDoe-rm2gs Its cheaper to solder :(
Didn't need to go through all this trouble. I would've given you my perfectly working PS3 for a PS5 anyway, even throw in some games. You get a working PS3 with games, save your time and I wouldn't complain either. That's what I call a win win.
HI you use a lot of components (alcohol, flux, wire and braided wire) can you please tell what you use exactly in which moment. Will be nice if you could write time and the component. Thank you.
that wire is made of tin
i always wondered if one of those old first gen ps3 can handle gta 5 or modern games like any other ps3 slim / super slim
why wouldnt they
The processors will become more hot, compared to slim and superslim models. But.............. I have seen many situations, where a ps3 superslim could not read GTA 5. Simply the laser was not good enough to read GTA V, this wasn't because the laser was worn out, also have seen this on many new ps3 superslims with new GTA V's. Same game could be played fine on earlier ps3 models.
@@proconsoles_nl I dont understand the chip of the cpu gettin hot bad is it cause the fan not good
I don’t even know what’s going on
nice one, but i missed the voice to describe what and why particular done
if sony and microsoft used lead soldier this would never be an issue
For microsoft the solder was the issue, not for sony. For sony it was the nec tokin capacitors, and occasionally the rsx failing, but a reball won't permanently fix a dead chip. And before you ask why reballing temporarily fixes the ps3, you have to consider that you can't just heat a motherboard and expect the heat to go to just one area. It heats the whole board, and can fix the nec caps. Plus there is no evidence that solder was ever the issue, as the ps3 doesn't get nearly hot enough for the solder to crack.
@@rockl79 Now heres a man or women whos done research! NEC Tokin was the issue NOT THE BALLS!
@@RonyIsaPony "MY BALLS WAS HOT!"
@@cuttrogue no
This qualifies as ASMR.. so pleasant ~~
GREAT VIDEO MAN, I LOVE THIS KINDA STUFF, only the beeping was TO loud lmao but ya man GREAT JOB
So at 31:24 you're adding a thermal paste into the CPU inside the CPU lid (if that even makes sense to say) I have seen others put something that likes like mercury on them. Does it matter what kind of thermal paste you use in the chips inside the lid? Does it apply to both CPU and GPU?
Nice! What do people usually charge for this kind of repair?
There's a company here in the UK that does this for around £70, which isn't actually that bad considering everything that's involved.
@@IshmaelSimpson Thanks I appreciate it
@@IshmaelSimpson what company would this be?
@@oliboli1992 That would be Console Wizard UK.
Wish the sound and video were in sync
Is it just me or the audio/video is off sync... Also, thats a lot of thermal paste!
Amazing video though :)
It's off sync because light travels faster than sound. (sorry, I had to say it LOL)
@@TinkeringJohn if so, I want that camera! Super zoom visual and audio!
yes
He says he knows he used too much thermal compound
what is that thing that heat up CPU? I assume small wire duck-taped to it is termocouple. neat instruments you have. I don't even have hot-air-gun.
7:58 that is how you properly delid a processor.
it's a high cost machine
Very nice work bro.liked it so much... Again say great job done....
What type soldering station and tips your using ?
Hi friend, SMT whole line equipments are all available by us, are you interested in that?(pick and place machine, AOI, reflow machine, Loader and unloader etc. )
What does he apply by hand at around 22:35. Appreciated.
Really enjoying the video, can tell what he's doing and why? I've never seen this done before.
The first few models of Playstation 3 had a problem where if you tried to turn it on it would just show a yellow light and not turn on. The source of the problem was the solder between the processor and the motherboard cracking due to extreme temperature changes.
The little spots you see when he takes off the chip are all solder points, electricity has to run through them for the processor to communicate with the motherboard. He then cleans them, puts fresh solder material, and then reconnects the processor to the motherboard.
Solder needs to be heated to transform from solid state to liquid, and the paste he puts on their is called Flux and it helps conduct heat to better melt the solder.
Now you might be thinking "why not just buy another PS3 without this problem?" the thing is the models that had this problem are highly desirable due to basically having an entire PS2 inside. They are considered pretty much the best way to play PS2 games on a modern TV with HDMI.
@@SmileOverlord thanks my dude your my MVP!! I wanted that model but I was gonna settle for a super slim even though it doesn't play PS2 games, I've seen vid's on how the original PS3 had problems and had a short life span, I didn't know there was a solution of this magnitude. This video was cool to watch, I've watch alot of vid's with consoles and carts being fixed threw soldering, but this one was so different and I loved it! Like I said thanks my G I really appreciate you!✌👍👍✌
@@jermainepalk1832 you're welcome. I'm just happy i found someone to share my knowledge with.
I come from Indonesia to greet friends, I hope this channel is always successful amen
DUDE! Do you do any repair services!!! Your PS3 repair God!
Someone know which compound was used to fix RSX "cap" back to RSX BGA? Thermal paste OK, Flux OK, wolder wick OK... but I do not know which compound I should use there.